CITIZENS ADVISORY 2013/01/31 CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON
ELECTIONS AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT
MINUTES
Thursday, January 31, 2013
6:30 p.m.
Orangeview Junior High School
3715 West Orange Avenue, Anaheim, CA 92804
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT:
John Woodhead, Ex Officio Member
Anthony Armas
Bill Dalati, Vice Chair
Larry Larsen
Martin Lopez
Vivian Pham, Chair
Vic Real
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABSENT:
Peter Agarwal
David Diaz
Joseph Karaki
Gloria Ma'ae
STAFF PRESENT:
Greg Garcia, Deputy City Manager
Robert J. Tyson, Deputy City Attorney
Caroline Morey, Recording Secretary
Spanish language translation services are available at the meeting upon request.
1. Call meeting to order. The meeting of the Citizens Advisory Committee on Elections and
Community Involvement (CAC) was called to order at 6:37p.m.by Chair Pham. Chair Pham
announced that the committee would need to wait for the 6 member to arrive in order to have a
quorum so they could proceed with the meeting. Vice Chair Dalati arrived and the meeting
commenced at 6:45p.m.
2. Flag Salute
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3. Approve CAC minutes of the December 13, 2012 meeting
Action: Approve minutes.
Commissioner Real motioned to approve minutes and Commissioner Lopez seconded the motion.
Ayes — 6 (Arenas, Dalati, Larsen, Lopez, Pham, Real) Noes — 0 Absent -4 (Agarwal, Diaz, Karaki,
Ma'ae)
4. Public Comments (Individual audience participation is limited to three (3) minutes per speaker)
Action: Public comments on any agenda items or subject matter within the jurisdiction of
the Citizens Advisory Committee.
Duane Roberts, 46 year Anaheim resident recommended a change in the City Council Meeting time to
improve participation.
Jorge Iniestra, 15 year resident lives at 1412 S. Knott stated he is pro- districting. He said that candidates
should live in the district from which they are elected. He has shown his children the importance of civic
involvement by acting as PTA President for Hansen Elementary. He thinks it's important to model civic
engagement & educate them. While acting as PTA President he learned that the majority of residents
were Spanish speakers and that the way the system was set up was primarily in English which alienated
many. He encouraged bilingual and translation at meetings including council to improve participation.
He feels his side of the city is under - represented which is unfair in a city this big. He recommends 8
districts that would be fairly selected, not by politicians.
Vanessa Gonzales, 10 year resident is pro- districting. She said that when an unknown individual broke
into home involved in drugs and other activities, they called the Anaheim Police Department. The police
responded late or not at all. She believes someone from her own neighborhood could represent her and
her family better. She said that they could better relate to working family and youth in Anaheim. She
attended her first city council meeting and when they discussed Martin Hernandez who was gunned
down, she watched the mayor show disinterest. She said this is unacceptable.
Clara Turner works as a policy analyst with OCCORD- provided handouts to committee members. She
has attended most of these meetings and has noticed that either the committee or the public has a
question, and the expert is not prepared to answer the question at that time. She has done a little research
on the questions asked (see handouts) and she would like to provide to distribute to the committee and
staff regarding her comment. How Anaheim's compares to other similarly sized California cities and
system used to elect officials /ratio population. There is a handout that provides an overview of polarized
voting. She provides definitions and additional demographics. The source is cited in the documents. She
addressed a question Commissioner Lopez had about geographic polarization. She has contact
information on the bottom of the handouts.
Commissioner Real said to Ms. Turner, you suggested 7 districts, how would you recommend dividing
these districts.
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Commissioner Real asked Ms. how she would recommend dividing districts. Commissioner Real asked if
she recommended 7 districts. She said she would actually recommend 8 districts plus + mayor which
would put Anaheim above other districts but would factor in anticipated growth. Commissioner Real then
reiterated the questions, assuming 9 districts how would you divide the city. She said she would require
more data to better determine the best way to draw districts based on race, ethnicity, age and other
characteristics.
Commissioner Real thanked her for her response.
Janet Taylor. This is the 3` meeting she has attended. She has 4 suggestions. She is against districting
because she does not think it will help solve the problem of representation. She stated that it may have the
opposite effect of dissolution of the votes if there are 9 people running for 2 seats. She stated that
Anaheim may want to consider using the primary to limit the field for the final election outcome. She said
you could limit the field 5 months and have a preliminary vote. She stated that there is still a problem
with voter apathy, high cost for candidates to run that has a discouraging effect. She stated it is difficult to
find detailed info on candidates and feels that the city hosting a meet the candidate event would improve
the process. She said more information on the website would be helpful as well as utilizing email and
social media. The internet is an inexpensive means for outreach and could continue to be better utilized.
Ms. Taylor also recommended that the committee have an online and in person suggestion box because
some people may not be present or may not be comfortable with public speaking but would like to be
heard.
Kenia Carpintero is a West Anaheim resident for over 20 years. She stated that they need better local
representation. She is supports local district elections.
Marisol Ramirez is a student and citizen. She encourages a later start time for council at 7pm to promote
better turnout. She is pro - districting. She feels that someone from her local area would better represent her
and her family. She said money stands in the way of competing as a candidate.
Maria Ruiz (Spanish speaking with translator) She works and lives in Anaheim. She is in favor of
districtis. She said that the people who are the working class and work for the city spend their money in
the city and are not represented. She will attend every meeting until the city has district elections.
Ron Bengochea, West Anaheim resident, born and raised here. He is against districting. He said it's what
is in your heart that makes you a good leader, not where you live. Regarding the individual who said we
don't have adequate representation, Mr. Bengochea disagrees. He stated it's each citizen's responsibility
to participate, to show up at meetings and to be heard. He believes in limiting campaign contributions in
order to equalize the candidacy. The translation services are improving communications with all
residents. He stated that some issues residents raise may not be fixable by council but require citizen
involvement in their community.
Public comments concluded at 7:1Op.m.
5. Receive and file the report on Community Outreach efforts
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Action: Receive and file community outreach report, upon presentation of outreach
efforts.
Deputy City Manager Greg Garcia introduced Ed Velasquez, outreach consultant, who provided an
overview of the city's outreach efforts highlight on the flyer provided. Please see website below.
The city has increased its outreach efforts and made information for the meetings available in both
Spanish and English. The meeting informational flyer is also now available in four languages: Spanish,
English, Vietnamese and Farsi. An interested list is being formed for all who attend meetings, complete
speaker cards, sign -in. You may also request additional information through the CAC page on the
website. Mr. Velasquez has also attended community neighborhood meetings and meetings of the
community group, Los Amigos. Flyers are being posted at all public counters at City Hall, on the web and
on signs at major intersections.
Outreach information made available during the meeting and online at
www.anaheim.net /CACelections
Vice Chair Dalati asked if the change of time suggested in public comments may be added to the
committee's recommendation. Mr. Garcia suggested that it can be included in the staff report or the
committee's recommendations if they wish to include the suggestion.
Vice Chair Dalati motioned to receive and file the outreach report and Commissioner Armas seconded the
motion.
Ayes — 6 ( Armas, Dalati, Larsen, Lopez, Pham, Real) Noes — 0 Absent -4 (Agarwal, Diaz, Karaki,
Ma' ae)
6. Overview and presentation of alternative electoral systems
Action: Presentations by David C. Kimball, Ph.D., Professor, University of
Missouri -St. Louis and Steve Chessin, President, Californians for Electoral Reform.
Presentation slides made available during the meeting and online at
www.anaheim.net /CACelections
Dr. Kimball and Mr. Chessin each provided presentations on the Cumulative and Ranked Choice Voting
and Electoral Reform. Both presentations provided a great deal of information about the electoral process,
various methodologies for voting and the possible outcomes as well as potential results from those
outcomes. The full video of their presentations is available online at the address noted above. A question
and answer period followed the presentations.
7. Committee Communications
Action: Closing comments.
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Commissioner Larsen thanked the speakers and staff.
Commissioner Lopez also thanked both presenters. He said it was very educational and he has his
own conclusions which will be discussed among the committee. Commissioner Lopez requested staff
obtain info from OC Registrar of Voters office on voter registration with regard to recent elections in
order to work on increasing voter registration. Mr. Lopez also indicated various labor groups assist
with voter outreach.
Mr. Garcia shared information regarding the February 21 which will provide information on voter
participation and voter outreach.
Commissioner Real thanked the guest speakers and the audience due to improved turnout. He
encouraged everyone to continue listen to meetings. It is important to hear the audience comments.
He said that comments and feedback will be used to base the committee's recommendations. He also
encouraged more people from West Anaheim neighborhood to get involved and take an active role in
this process. He said there are many neighborhood organizations especially in West Anaheim where
you can get involved. There is a forum for them and you can get involved.
Vice Chair Dalati stated that there was great attendance at tonight's meeting with a full room. It
shows you care. He thanked the staff for their work and the citizens for their attendance and
participation. Great information was provided.
Commissioner Armas also thanked staff and said it was great to continue learning more about the
various voting systems, many of which he didn't even consider before. He encouraged everyone to
keep an open mind as we move forward. As we explore every option available, showing that the
committee and community are not locked in, improvements can be made.
Chair Pham thanked staff.
8. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned by Chair Pham at 9:07 p.m.
Caroline Morey
Recording Secr(
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