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1980/06/1380-765 City Hall, Anaheim, California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980, 10:00 A.M. The City Council of the City of Anaheim met in adjourned regular session. PRESENT: ABSENT: PRESENT: COUNCIL MEMBERS: Overholt (entered at 10:10 A.M.), Kaywood, Bay, Roth and Seymour COUNCIL MEMBERS: None CITY MANAGER: William O. Talley CITY ATTORNEY: William P. Hopkins CITY CLERK: Linda D. Roberts PUBLIC UTILITIES GENERAL MANAGER: Gordon Hoyt PUBLIC WORKS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Thornton E. Piersall FIRE CHIEF: Bob Simpson DEPUTY CITY MANAGER: James D. Ruth DATA PROCESSING DIRECTOR: TuE Tamaru ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER: William T. Hopkins CITY COUNCIL BUDGET: City Manager William Talley referred to Pages Cll through 14, Control Center 31 and Position Control Page E5, which included the Community Pro- motion budget (Page C14) incorporating the Anaheim Visitor & Convention Bureau budget under the direction of Mr. Bill Snyder. Mayor Seymour asked Mr. Snyder if he had any problem with the Visitor & Convention Bureau budget as proposed; Mr. Snyder stated he had no problem. PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT BUDGET: Pages C222 through C292, Control Centers 8 through 87 and 91 and 93, Capital Improvements, Pages D3 through 12, and Position Control Pages E41 through E49. Public.Utilities General Manager Gordon Hoyt reported that the Public Utilities Board (PUB) last night completed its review of the budget. Their action was to approve the proposed budget, subject to some comments upon which he would elab- orate and with an additional comment that if the Council would specifically like them to look in depth at any particular area, they would be pleased to do so between now and the time the Council approved the budget. Councilman Overholt entered the Council Chamber. (10:10 A.M.) The PUB started with a review of the cost and performance of consultants involved in litigation work and expressed themselves as being satisfied with the perfor- mance and results. He had given the Board a copy o~ sheet entitled, "Financial Results of Legal and Engineering Consultants' Services--1970-I980" which he also submitted to the Council and which he then briefed. The Board indicated that while they were satisfied with the performance and results, they had no way to evaluate whether or not the same or better results could have been achieved at a lower cost by using different consultants. They discussed the selection process and why Utilities continued to use the same consultants on a repeat basis essentially because they would not have to go back and relearn the back- ground on Edison and Anaheim. They also discussed cost control methods recently initiated between their lawyers and consultants to better control costs. The Board indicated it would continue to evaluate consultants as in the past and try to assure that those recommended for employment w~uld do the best job for the City at the appropriate cost. 80-766 City Hall, An.aheim~ 'California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13~ 1980~ 10:00 A.M. The PUB recommended that the Utilities Work Management Program be enlarged over that provided in the budget to provide for three Industrial Engineers, rather than two technicians currently in the 1980-81 budget, although they did not recommend that additional money be budgeted in the Department's overall budget. In a very positive manner, not to be critical of the City's existing Data Proces- sing facilities, the Board expressed the desire that better budget review infor- mation, work management data, charts, graphs, etc., should be provided. They asked that a comprehensive review of computer availabilities and costs be made to see if better management information could be provided, including a look to see if a stand-alone or dedicated computer capability should be provided to give additional tools to better run the Utility business. The Board seemed to consider the WorkManagement Program and additional computerized reports and improved management information reports as a single umbrella project. He believed that the Board had in mind some sort of mini-computer usable exclusively by the Utilities Department to analyze information and produce reports based on the City's main computer data, such as the billing data, the MAFIS data, payroll, work hours, work orders, etc., and reorganize the data in the reports useful in business man- agement and budget review to determine level of productivity and efficiency of work units and to provide a ready comparison of unit costs and so forth, all of which could be better done regularly by a machine than irregularly by manual means. The foregoing were the essential comments that the Board made in its review. Mr. Hoyt added that they had been reviewing the San Onofre Bond issue and now assessed the bonds at $73 million rather than the $60 million included in the budget. The savings would remain favorable because both sides of the equation had changed. The price of oil had escalated along with interest rates and con- struction costs. Savings over the first ten years were estimated to be approx- imately $4½ million a year varying from $170,000 in 1981 to approximately $8.3 million in 1990. They were trying to move the project ahead as quickly as possible. In connection with the budget itself, about 97% of the increase, comparing 1979-80 to 1980-81, was due to three items: (1) the San Onofre Bond issue of $73 million of which only approximately $6 million was included in the 1979-80 budget; (2) an approximate $23 million increase estimated for electric power purchase; (3) a $350,000 increase in water supply costs. Councilman Bay noted on legal fees, when he looked at the total savings and also the casts, they were approximately 10% of the total cost. He wanted to know if there was any way to compare the 10% of gross it was costing for legal fees so as to know whether they should be attempting to set up incentive contracts starting at 6% as an example. Mr. Hoyt thereupon explained which cases were, in fact, on incentive agreements at present. Councilman Roth commented on the recommendation from the PUB regarding a computer, which was of concern to him. He also asked the status of the pending lawsuits and also the ramifications of continuing to look for additional sources of power~ Mr. Hoyt then elaborated. 80-767 City Hall~ Anaheim, California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13~ 1980~ 10:00 A.M. Mayor Seymour also asked Mr. Hoyt to elaborate on the comments of the PUB relative to Data Processing and the creation of a stand-alone system. Mr. Hoyt explained that when the PUB first came into being, they were generating quite a bit of information in terms of charts and graphs and documents that in- dicated the Department's productivity. It was through the fallout from the Work Management Program which they initiated in 1973. Because of change in the City's computer operation, they lost the ability to generate those reports for a while and had now recaptured that. The leaders on the Board in that particular area, Messrs. Stanton, Kiefer and Haynie, were people familiar with industry and bus- iness and the kind of information produced in order to show what was happening' in terms of productivity of the work force, meeting various unit costs etc. Their system, at the moment, did not provide that kind of ability. They were doing some of it manually on their old e~uipment which was not efficient. They were also not doing a lot of things they would like to do to provide management information to himself, the City Manager, City Council and the Board in an ongoing fashion so that they could on a regular basis review the operations of the Department to evaluate performance. The Board's concern was that they would like to see that information come out of the business and thus were asking that the City take a look at what was required to provide that information. The Mayor asked if his Department had not been part of the process of the develop- ment of MAFIS; Mr. Hoyt answered "yes". The system did some "grand" things, but there were many things it did not do, some of which were unique to the Utilities Department such as the work order system, the need to have their accounting done in accordance with the uniform system accounts prescribed by the FPRC and CPUC for comparison purposes etc. They had requirements which were not necessarily requirements of the rest of the City. Extensive discussion followed between the Mayor and Mr. Hoyt on the issue at the conclusion of which, Mr. Hoyt stated they were not talking about a great deal of money and they were not saying that the Utilities Department should not use the City's computer. They were saying that there were some mini-computers varying in price from a few ten's of thousands of dollars to perhaps $200,000 to $300,000 that would do everything that needed to be done. Mr. Talley also stated that the PUB was also expressing the fact that they did not want to get in line when they wanted information but wanted it done now, either with a dedicated computer or their own. Mr. Hoyt stated they were trying to optimize how they did the work to carry on the technical and business side of a very large Utilities business. He was not trying to Justify a stand-alone system but he was trying to emphasize that the City ought to take a look at the needs of the Department and the needs of the City and determine the optimum way of handling the data processing needs of both. After further discussion, the Mayor stated that they had better find a way to do it within the system. Either that or the system was wrong. Councilman Roth asked to hear from Assistant City Manager Hopkins on the issue; Assistant City Manager William Hopkins briefly explained the function of the present MAF!S System and in concluding stated that the real issue was that the MAF1S Program was generally geared to the requirements of operating a municipality and the needs of the Utility industry went beyond that system. 80-768 City Hall~ Anaheim~ California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980~ 10:00 A.M. Mr. Talley stated that they did intend to discuss the concept of meeting with the financial auditors (Price Waterhouse) to look at the FERC and PUC codes to see whether or not, as a result of what the City was doing, they could spinoff and do that. In the end, because of all the conditions imposed on them, they should treat the Utilities as a separate city relative to their accounting system. He believed that the Council Audit Committee was mindful of the prob- lems that they continually ran into between the way the Utilities wanted to be reported and how the rest of the City ought to be reported. MAFIS was designed to report one way. To have to then take that information and run it through again, although they were trying to do so, the cost might be such that the Council would want to separate the two and do it two ways. They did not have the answer and would probably be coming to the Council with a recommendation that the assignment be given to Price Waterhouse to supply that answer. Mayor Seymour stated he felt strongly that it would not be cost effective to create another Data Processing Department. Mr. Hoyt agreed. The possibility was a recommendation that there be a mini- computer of some sort or perhaps a micro-computer or a couple of micro-computers available somewhere for use by the Utilities Department. Mr. Hopkins had expressed it clearly--the basic problem was the difference between municipal reporting and information needs and utility reporting and information needs. Even though they were not regulated, they needed to look and act as though they were doing the exact same things as those who were regulated. Before concluding, Councilman Bay stated that if the Federal Government was im- posing edicts that cost the City money, they should be lobbying through the City's congressional representatives that there should be some money accom- panying those edicts. Mayor Seymour stated that relative to t~e Public Utility Board's concern and the Council's previously expressed concern, they should ask the PUB to devmse a system or a plan of evaluation, or a comparison to some of the examples Mr. Hoyt cited relative to the hourly cost and put that together in a report to be provided to the Council with suitable recommendations from the PUB. He asked if it would be reasonable to come up with such a plan in 60 days. Mr. Hoyt indicated that they would try to do so in that the Board had expressed on more than one occasion that same concern. Councilman Overholt asked Mr. Hoyt how many law firms there were in the country, in his opinion, that performed the same work as Spiegel & McDiarmid and also how many firms there were in the country who performed services similar t0 that of R. W. Beck. Mr. Hoyt guessed there were approximately 10 or 12 such as Spiegel & McDiarmid and six or eight such as R. W. Beck. Councilman Overholt thereupon suggested that in the evaluation by the PUB, that fact should be made loud and clear, that there were very few such law firms and consultants performing the type of work required by the Utilities Department. He had become concerned that the consultant issue kept surfacing constantly. He suggested that the matter be reviewed periodically, but when they made a decision as to a consultant, then go with that consultant. He wanted to put to rest what 80-769 City Hall, Anaheim, California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980, 10:00 A.M. seemed to be an air of suspicion that the consultants were "ripping them off". It did not create the proper atmosphere in which the consultants could give the best service and the sooner they could bring the matter to a head, the better he would like it. PUBLIC WORKS AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT: City Manager Talley stated they preferred to discuss Public Works and Planning at the same time inasmuch as having moved into the new Civic Center, they jointly occupied the smaller building and much of their former acitivities were being consolidated into a more efficient operation. The Public Works and Planning budgets were to be found on Pages Cll0 through C168, Control Centers 42, 43, 44 and 46 and 63 through 68, Capital Improvements, Page D13 through D17 and D33, and Position Control, E23 through E33. Public Works Executive Director Thornton Piersall gave an overview of each of the Departments and Divisions as follows: Plannin~ Department--the Mapping Section moved into the Graphics Section, thus consolidating that activity. Engineering Representative transferred to the Central Public Counter resulting in a major improvement in access and performance for outside contractors, builders, and developers. Eliminated four CETA Junior Building Inspectors. Increasing commercial and industrial growth expected to offset the lack of residential construction. The revenue in number of business licenses issued indicated a consistent workload in that program. As a result of reorganization, they were looking forward to increased productivity and service. Parkway Maintenance--they were asking for no additional positions but had increased- the area of maintenance by over eight acres or 360,000 square feet. Facility Maintenance--completed transition and reorganization of accommodating the Convention Center Family Foresome. Reduction of three people in that area, thus continuing a reduction in personnel over the last three or four years re- flecting increased efficiency in Facility Maintenance. Personnel decreased 10%, overall budget increase, 11% mostly due to cost of utilities. Mechanical Maintenance--in 1979-80 budgeted for fuel at 60¢ a gallon but were now paying 95¢ a gallon. Projected $1.25 per gallon for 1980-81. Vehicle replacements were used to offset the balance in extra costs but they were again reverting to the $1,500,000 vehicle replacement per year. Full-time personnel remained the same--part-time hours reduced from 2000 to 1000 hours. En~ineerin~ Division--in addition to the transfer of one representative to the Planning Department, they were reducing four positions in Engineering. Capital Improvement budget, approximately $12,500,000. Completion of Project Alpha was expected during this fiscal year. Other projects--construction of Weir Canyon sewer to be the first phase of development in that area; Anaheim Boulevard-- Haster Street Overcrossing in which the City was participating with the State, giving the impetus to embark on a three-year program of widening Anaheim Boulevard. Funds for the project were budgeted under AHFP and City funds to start the program. Mr. Piersall noted that all bailout projects that were approved by the Council last year had either been completed or under construction, with the exception of four which would be out to bid next month. 80-770 City Hall~. Anaheim~ Califor.n..ia - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13~ 1980~ 10:00 A.M. Street Maintenance--increased preventive street maintenance program (slurry seal, resurfacing and seal coating) from 1.2 million square feet to approx- imately 9 million square feet. No additional personnel added to that program. Expected to be accomplished with increased production. Seven new full-time City positions added in support of the final phase of the No Parking Street Sweeping program. Slight increase to offset additional costs of administrative and operating costs to be submitted to the Council in the near future. In the budget presentation in May, the Council expressed concern over street maintenance. In that regard, he asked the Street Superintendent and City Engineer to submit a program. Mr. Piersall thereupon submitted to the Council a report from William Lewis, Street Maintenance Supe.rvisor, dated June 12, 1980 addressed to the City Manager--"Impact of Proposed Increase For the Street Resurfacing and Seal Coating Programs to 12.8 million Square Feet" (on file in the City Clerk's office), indicating what could be accomplished with $686,000 in the Street Maintenance Program. He also submitted a report from the City Engineer William Devitt dated June 12, 1980 (on file in the City Clerk's office), listing six capital improvement projects for consideration if additional funding became available. Mr. Piersall then briefed the Council on each report, at the conclusion of which, Councilman Roth questioned the cost effectiveness of using slurry seal for resur- facing and also the plans for Lemon Street between Olive and East Street. Mr. Piersail first stated that he had spoken to Mr. Priest about the aforementioned project, and they were going to propose a heater remix double slurry on that project which they would be effecting in the near future. He then asked Mr. Lewis to explain the technicalities of the difference between slurry Seal and the heater remix process for resurfacing streets. After Mr. Lewis' explanation, Councilman Roth also noted that the surface of East Lincoln, particularly from East Street going west, was badly in need of resurfacing, especially considering that it was the entry into the Redevelopment area. Mr. Piersall explained that they had been holding off doing anything but emergency maintenance on that, because they thought they were going to move ahead with the grade separation. Mr. Piersall then submitted an extensive reported dated May 31, 1980 from the Street Maintenance Superintendent (on file in the City Clerk's office), giving an overall street condition report in Anaheim. Councilman Roth emphasized that he was personally concerned about the conditions of the streets in the City. He emphasized that the Council had to take a hard look at spending additional funds on City streets. Councilman Overholt asked if they were in a position to increase street mainten- ance tO 12.8 million square feet, did he (Piersall) anticipate that on an annual basis~ in the future, they could drop that back to a lesser figure and provide better street surfaces than in the last couple or three years. 80-771 City Hall~. Anaheim~ California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980~ 10:00 A.M. Mr. Piersall stated they could do so, but he did not think that would be the proper approach because if the program were increased, the mileage would increase every year and there would be attrition, layoffs and excess equipment. Thus, they were talking about 12.8 million square feet on an annual basis. Councilman Roth referred to the continuing costs of parkway maintenance partic- ularly in the Anaheim Hills area. Of concern to him was the fact that the City took six feet of property when installing a four foot sidewalk thus ending up with two feet of property beyond the sidewalk which the City then had to maintain. He wanted to know why that was done and also why that could not be done with an easement so that somebody else could maintain that strip, rather than have the City expend continuing funds. Mr. Piersall answered that the situation was no longer occurring and that strip was now part of the homeowner'~ responsibility. Councilman Bay asked relative to the District 17 offsite storm drain which was dependent upon issuing $15 million in bonds in Redevelopment, the possibility of getting some share help out of the County on that storm drain. Mr. Piersall reported that Mr. Priest had sent a letter to the County to. that effect and the County, in turn, responded negatively. They were, however, involved in further discussions with the County who decided to reappraise the situation. A letter was also sent to the County indicating that the storm drain would serve a larger area than Project Alpha. They were hoping that the County would change their position on the matter. Relative to Code enforcement, Councilman Bay noted that there were presently two zoning enforcement officers, and he wanted to know what the budget reflected for next year. Mr. Ron Thompson, Planning Director, stated that there were three included in the budget for next year--two specialists and one enforcement officer. The Mayor asked if the cost for street resurfacing and seal coating of $686,000 was included in the budget; Mr. Piersall confirmed that it was not included. The Mayor noted that there was also a "wish" list involving six different items (see June 12, 1980 memo from the City Engineer referred to previously) which were also not included in the budget; Mr. Piersall confirmed that they were not in- cluded in the $12.5 million budget. Discussion then followed regarding the City's Street Sweeping Program broached by Councilman Roth wherein Mr. Bill Lewis, Street Maintenance Supervisor, indicated the following: There were certain areas with problems especially those areas with nothing but on-street parking. They responded to and worked with the people on request, and without exception, had been able to offer constructive suggestions. They had not yet been confronted with a problem where they could not offer some type of relief relative to the no parking in the Street Sweeping Program. Mr. Plersall stated they had also explained to the Council in reports that if there were multiple family areas or areas with no garages, they might have to go to some other posted program. 80-772 City Hall~ Anaheim~ California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980, 10:00 A.M. Councilman Bay stated that was one of the solutions he had been looking for. He would like to see a solution in the areas where there was nothing but on- street parking in order to provide relief to those areas. FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET: Pages C96 through C102, Control Center 56, Capital Improvement Program, Pages D27 and 28, Position Control, Page E20. Fire Chief Bob Simpson gave a brief overview of his Department's budget repre- senting a 5.6% increase over last year but only a 1.4% increase in dependency on the General Fund. There were no major expenditures in their budget impacting the City's General Fund. Two Capital Improvement Projects were proposed for funding out of General Revenue Sharing, replacement of Station No. 8 and modi- fications to Station No. 6. They were proposing no increase in level of service. There was a proposed decrease of eight positions over last year involving the dispatch position which would come about at the time they moved into the net- work Communications Center planned for January of 1981. He believed they were going to get that done before that time and, if so, savings would accrue to the City at the rate of approximately $11,000 per month. Councilman Roth expressed his concern over the time element involved for fire apparatus to climb the grades to Serrano and Canyon Rim Road and in that regard, asked if there were any plans to move the fire station on Nohl Ranch Road closer to the top of the hill. The Fire Chief stated there were no plans to move that station and time studies indicated they were still within adopted criteria. Future Station No. 10 would also help to reduce' response time in that area as well. CITY CLERK BUDGET: Pages C33 through C37, Control Center 34, Position Control Page Et0. City Clerk Linda Roberts, noted that there was a decrease of one position when the Duplicating function was transferred to the Finance Department, resulting in one CETA position being eliminated. There was no municipal election next year and presently there were no funds in the election account for the November General election, which would be approximately $12,000 if they went with just what was proposed at present. If there were additional items from Utilities, the amount may be more. Traditionally they did not budget for off-year elections. At the time the budget was submitted, they did not know that an issue was going to be placed on the ballot and consequently there were no funds in the budget for the November election. The Mayor stated they should then put that figure to the side with all the other side figures so that it could be considered when the budget was finally adopted. Councilwoman Kaywood asked for clarification if other issues were placed on the ballot would it then cost more; Mrs. Roberts answered "yes", dependent on the issue, the length of it, and whether the County would have to go another ballot column or not. Councilwoman Kaywood then asked if a storm drain issue was placed on the ballot would the cost then be more than $12,0007 Mrs. Roberts answered possibly, but it would not be that much more. 80-773 City Hall~ Anaheim, California - COUNCIL MINUTES~- June 13, 1980~ 10:00 A.M. Councilman Bay noted that Position Control indicated a decrease of two positions whereas the City Clerk indicated a decrease of one. Mrs. Roberts explained that was correct, one decrease was due to a transfer of function and the other was a voluntary elimination of a CETA position due to the move to the new Civic Center. PARKS~ RECREATION & COMMUNITY SERVICES: Pages C169 through C190, Control Center 69, 70 and 71, Capital Improvement, Pages D18 through 24, Position Control, Pages E34 and E36. Before Mr. Ruth's presentation,' Councilman Bay noted that on Page B13 under Women's Sports Fees, Fiscal Year 1980-81, a proposed amount of $130,000 up from $10,332 projected in 1979-80; staff clarified that the amount should be $13,000 and not $130,000. Mr. James Ruth, Deputy City Manger, gave a brief overview and highlighted certain aspects of the budgets for the Divisions under Parks, Recreation & Community Services--the Public Information Office, Intergovernmental Relations, the Community Service Program, Recreation and Parks. He stated that the proposed 1980-81 budget represented an overall percentage increase for the Department of 2.6% totalling $5,312,433. They were requesting two additional personnel in the Parks Division to assist in the maintenance of the new Civic Center and Yorba Regional Park. The one maintenance person for Yorba Park would be reimbursed by the City of Yorba Linda under a reciprocal agreement. In Control Center 69, Administration, they were down 2.9% due to a change and reclassification of a Senior Staff Assistant to Staff Assistant. Intergovernmental Relations--down $10,642 or 7.4% due to the reduction in State League dues and Public Technology Incorporated dues. Successfully obtained 11 grants totalling $713,400 during the current fiscal year. There were two more they were confident of getting in the month of June amounting to $110,000. The extensive amount of effort being put forward in IGR was producing good results for the City. PIO--increase of $7,979 or 10.2%. Because of the work load, the amount of picture taking, developing, etc., it was necessary to have some part-time help which was reflected in the foregoing figure for part-time staff to assist in photograph developing and writing new articles. In terms of commitment in the PIO function, they were meeting all their program obligations and MBO obligations and in terms of productivity had exceeded expectations up to this point. Community Services--increase of $1,750 or 0.6% even though the work load increased considerably. He then outlined the services provided. Recreation--the level of service was slightly reduced primarily in the playgrounds. They were also not going to program a schedule for the Savanna swimming pool. He then elaborated upon the extensive services provided. Parks Division--increase of $275,205 or 10.1%, the major portion being salary increases, equipment rental and building rental. There were eight new facilities and 60 additional acres to be maintained, and they were asking for two additional personnel. Even though there was an increase, they could still maintain a good 80-774 City Hall, .AHaheim, California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13~ 1980~ 10:00 A.M. quality of maintenance within the Parks system. Yesterday they completed an ex- tensive report which was a re-evaluation and re-analysis of the Arthur Young Study which began to look in detail at the frequencies of certain activities that were conducted in maintenance. They felt they could better organize some of their work forces to maintain the current level of service without any ap- preciable loss with the existing manpower with the exception of the two re- quested earlier. Councilman Overholt expressed his concern over the fact that the Savanna pool was not going to be utilized during the summer. He asked to be supplied with the attendance figures at Savanna compared to some of the other pools in the area. Where there was that large an investment made for the benefit of the youth during the hot summer, it seemed there had to be a good reason for not opening the pool for recreational activities. Relative to PIO, Councilman Overholt noted that one of the goals was to publish at least 24 informational bulletins to the management team which he understood had been extremely successful. He asked what interest, if any, had been shown to renew some kind of communication on a regular basis with citizens other than press releases, etc. Mr. Ruth stated that a report was just completed for the City Manager and Council regarding that issue. The approximate cost for such a newsletter was $80,000. That would deliver four publications to 88,000 residents during the year to be mailed out separately under the Public Information Corporation at 3.5¢ per copy. Councilwoman Kaywood asked if there was any possibility of combining it with the Recreation and Parks booklet; Mr. Ruth answered that it would diminish the objec- tive and he felt it should be a separate document. He was very supportive of such a communication and the benefits far outweighed the disadvantages. They might want to consider just publishing one and include that in some kind of questionnaire to the public for their reaction and subsequently use that reaction as a basis for further action. Councilman Overholt asked if there was any reason why it could not include information on Redevelopment; Mr. Ruth answered, not as far as he could see. Councilman Bay stated he was thinking of how to share that $80,000 cost in three or four different places such as Neighborhood Preservation, Block Grant, etc. Councilwoman Kaywood stated that at the time she felt perhaps they could cut the newsletter to one s,,mmary issue every year, but it was a mistake to have nothing. No newspaper went to every citizen in the City. Councilman Roth stated that people in general felt that government should not be in competition with the local press relative to such publications. If infor- mation needed to be targeted, such as in Neighborhood Preservation, then they should target it accordingly. He felt that the press had done an admirable job and that PIO should be complimented in doing an outstanding job in the last two years. He maintained there was enough media acceptable to the citizens of the community dispersing pertinent ~nformation, and he could not support an expenditure of $80,000 for a newsletter. 80-775 Cit7 Hall, Anaheim, California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13~ 1980~ 10:00 A.M. Councilwoman Kaywood stated that the percentage of voters had decreased since 1976, that last time a newsletter was published, and she felt interest had waned in those elections because of the lack of a City newsletter. Councilman Bay stated he could think of a lot of reasons and needs for a news- letter, for instance, the parking situation and the Street Sweeping Program and the subsequent calls that had been received and the time spent in responding. He felt there could be a return of that $80,000 in lessening the impact. He maintained that a City publication on a quarterly basis would be of great benefit to the City. Mayor Seymour commented that regarding the Street Sweeping Program, a zreat deal was done to educate the community on what was taking place, upon which he elaborated. The Mayor then asked how the report referred to by Mr. Ruth surfaced and on what basis. City Manager Talley explained that several months ago when they were getting some good feedback on the management reports, he asked Dean Grose to give him a report. Initially, however, he had received some expression from the Council; Councilman Overholt stated that he requested the report. The purpose for such a quarterly report, or whatever it might be, was to inform. The problem with relying totally on the press or other publications was that they were governed by what they considered newsworthy items. He asked that something be worked up to see what it would cost. They received a substantial percentage of hotline calls because people were uninformed and there was a substantial expense invol- ved with the prompt response given on hotline calls. He felt that the news- letter could perhaps cut down on such complaints. Councilman Roth noted that they did have a medium available to them for disem- inating information and that was through the utility billing process. Councilwoman ~aywood noted that relative to street sweeping, if there had been a C~ty-wide newsletter at the time, it was possible they would have been swamped with calls saying that they did not want the program, and they could have changed their minds on that program. Informing the people was one of the businesses of the City. In concluding, Councilman Bay stated he felt Mr. Ruth's budget plan and control were exemplary; the Mayor stated that Mr. Ruth and his staff were doing a great job. Councilman Overholt stated along with the attendance figures at Savanna, he would like to have an estimate of what it would cost to man the Savanna pool in the summer as well. RECESS: By general consent, the Council recessed for 25 minutes (12:20 P.M.) AFTER RECESS: Mayor Seymour called the meeting to order, all Council Members being present. ~12:45 P.M.) DATA PROCESSING BUDGET: Page C217 through C221, Position Control Page E40. 80-776 City Hall, Anaheim~ California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980~ 10:00 A.M. Mr. Tug Tamaru, Data Processing Director, first introduced the Department's new Operational Manager, Mr. Dan Amyx. He then stated that he was pleased to report for Fiscal Year 1980-81 the Data Processing budget proposed a decrease in total dollars and also in full-time people from 47 to 37 positions. The reasons for the reductions were two-fold--departure of the MDS cities and reduction of the Capita!~Improvement Project schedule from the current level of $524,000 to $65,000. While eliminating ten full-time positions, advance planning had kept the number of employees to be laid off to one, and they were confident that person might be placed elsewhere in the City. The ten positions represented the full increment identified by the Gottfried Consultants who made the study in the Department in August of 1979. Mr. Tamaru then explained what the Department proposed to do for 1980-81, empha- sizing the internal operations and efficiencies in the Department: the level of service to be provided would be kept to critical or essential levels of service. Final arrangements would be made for the move into the new offices in the Willdan Building with a completion target date of August 1981. Comple- tion of the Payroll/Personnel System, well under way at present, was the only main development project scheduled. Outside service would only be the existing library services to be expanded to two other library agencies with the possibility of continuing to provide the word processing system to the City of Fullerton. In concluding, Mr. Tamaru explained that this was the first year the Department reduced its development program to a point where ongoing day-to-day operations could be looked at more closely. They could retrench on some of the things they had been doing and provide more efficiency in their ongoing operations. To that extent, in the last six months, their statistics for the Operations Division had been improving consistently. Councilman Bay, noting that the average hourly rate had escalated from $12.97 to $15.08, asked staff to explain why. Mr. Dave Morgan, Data Processing Staff Assistant, stated there were three factors involved--(1) the cost of benefits, insurance, etc., had increased dramatically; [2) Department staffing levels to some extent had shifted toward higher paid and higher qual~fied people; and (3) last year going into 1979-80 in an attempt to keep costs as low am possible, they anticipated turm-over and, therefore, re- duced their labor dollar allotments by some $80,000 at the beginning of the year when typically that was left over at the end of the year. Thus, in taking the work hours for 1979-80 and dividing them into the sum total for labor dollars, they were being divided into a total sum approximately $80,000 less than it would have been if there was full allotment. It was a practice they did not use in 198Q-81 because it destroyed flexibility, and they wanted to keep fully staffed as much as possible. Mr. Talley noted that effective in October, all the rates included an 8% enhance- ment of salaries in anticipation of new contracts throughout the City. Mayor Seymour stated that the projected budget for 1980-81 was 99.8% of that for 1979-80 or, in essence, the same budget. He asked how that could be explained when there were not any new. programs and thus, they were not only not using programmers in the Department, but also outside programmers. He asked Mr. Tamaru if he would explain that situation when he had ten less people. 80-777 City Hall, Anaheim, California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980, 10:00 A.M.. Mr. Tamaru answered that they eliminated approximately $317,000 from MDS service. What they could not eliminate were the fixed costs, or approximately $200,000 made up of all the allocated space, heat, power, lights, rent, supervisory overhead, and part of the equipment. He noted that it was not all that gloomy because by their measure, there was about 23% additional usable capacity, and it would enable Anaheim to avoid going into another equipment purchase for one and a half to two years. Councilman Overholt asked if anyone had spoken for that capacity; Mr. Tamaru answered that they had not been selling it. They were presently handling all of the Utilities Department's existing demands. As he understood, Utilities did have some other new programs. At present, Data Processing had enough to handle with the authorized projects now in progress. They were going to pro- vide what they had available to Utilities to the extent that they could do so. Later in the meeting, Councilman Overholt questioned Assistant City Manager William Hopkins relative to the additional 23% capacity now available in the system and the fact that Mr. Tamaru had not heard from any Department Heads, that they had any great need for that capacity. Assistant City Manager Hopkins stated that there were two things impacting the additional core available in the computer: (1) If they did develop some of the things that the Utilities Department felt they had to have, they did not know to what extent the existing computer could handle those requirements at this time; and (2) The ongoing condition that as the City continued to grow, there was expansion in terms of existing use, thus eating up more space in the computer. That was referred to in their ongoing operating costs in the Gottfried Report which showed that at some point in time, they would reach a peak. Although they had some flexibility to provide for other uses, he doubted if it would be sufficient for Utilities' needs in the long run. Mr. Jim Curtis, Systems & Programming Manager, confirmed that there were no other Departments that had expressed an interest in using the excess capacity. Mayor Seymour asked how much if any of this year's budget in comparison to last year's had been laid off to operating costs or were there policy changes from 1979-80 to 1980-81 relative to the handling of costs. Mr. Tamaru noted the major policy change was that they were in an actual cost billing process where they were, at least by memorandum, letting the Departments know the actual Data Processing costs, so that they would know what they were spending, which procedure was instituted in March of 1980. Further discussion and questioning then follow, ed between the Council and staff for purposes of clarification, at the conclusion of which, Councilman Bay stated that he was looking for an incentive to stop data that was no longer needed even if they were saving only the paper or printout costs to do so. Eventually, if enough people stopped the program and it was eliminated, that opened up the capability to provide something that was needed and that was his objective. CITY ADMINISTRATION AND GENERAL BENEFITS: Pages C15 through C26, Control Center 29, 32 and 38, Position Control Page E6, 7 and 8, and Pages C294 through C298, Control Center 30. 80-778 City Hall,. Anaheim~ California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980, 10:00 A.M. Assistant City Manager William T. Hopkins stated the major effort next year were the modifications to the Angel agreements; finalizing or finding a class A hotel for the Convention Center, and financial arrangements for Betterment II. Of major significance were labor negotiations which were going to be commencing shortly. Work hours would remain the same, the only difference being in the temporary category where they were asking for 1,000 hours for an intern. This year they had been using some personnel under the Work Study Program with the City paying 20% and the Program 80%. However, it had not worked out well with the type of skill they were looking for, and they were asking for those 1,000 hours primarily in the Energy Conservation area and also to assist with some of the routine items while labor negotiations were in progress. In addition, the City Manager's office was responsible for the City's Audit Program. The Council earlier this year was asked to approve expansion of that program to incorporate performance audits. Thus, they had provided in the budget the necessary resources to accomplish an Audit Program in the amount of $17,320 over the present cost due to a shift in personnel. There was also a vacancy in the Audit Program itself. The net effect was no additional positions, but a shifting from one area to the another. The Fiscal Audit Program would continue as in the past. He then briefed the Council on data handed him by Audit Manager Young Choi. He noted that 10% of their audit efforts were directed to the hotel/motel industry; 65% to handle the needs of various departments who had contracts to be certain of compliance; 5% for bingo, and 20% for miscellaneous. In the past year, the Audit Program had been quite successful in achieving compliance with many of the City's contracts, agreements, etc. It was estimated that the total recovery to the City had been in excess of $300,000 for the current fiscal year. In addition to the Audit Program, this year they had the Risk Management sector. A change the Council approved in March was the recommendation that Risk Management individually and internally take on the Worker's Compensation Claims Program, and they were now proceeding with that program. Another area of savings was in the reduction of some $140,000 in the General Benefits Fund. The overall program for next year should show a savings of $150,000. Council was also well aware of the progress made in the Risk Management Program and they had been supplied with quarterly reports dealing with reduction of losses in terms of accidents. The lamt report to Council showed a marked improvement from a year ago for the same quarter, and they anticipated continuing that program. CITY ATTORNEY BUDGET: Pages C27 through C32, Control Center 33 and Position Control Page Eg--Program 121, Legal Administration; 123, General Counsel; 124, Land Use Counsel; 125, Misdemeanor Prosecution. City Attorney William Hopkins reported that at the present time, staff consisted of 20 personnel, 11 attorneys and 9 clerical/secretarial. They were requesting one additional Deputy City Attorney li for their General Counsel section which had a very heavy work load of litigation. He noted they had little control over peQple who would decide to sue the City, and thus it was difficult to predict hQw many lawsuits would be filed in the future. Examples were, bingo ordinance cases, drug paraphernalia, attacks on the adult entertainment ordinance; today a lawsuit waa filed against the City's gambling ordinance; and there were similar attacks on dance and social studio ordinances and massage parlor control ordin- ances. Ail had heavily burdened the legal staff since those were in addition to the regular work they handled in municipal law. 80-779 City Hall~ Anaheim~ California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13~ 1980, 10:00 A.M. He requested each of their attorneys to prepare a summary of their work during the past year and the prosecution section prepared a statistical report showing the number of cases in summary form. He would be happy to give the Council copies if desired. Another heavy drain had been relative to negotiating sessions and other meetings in connection with the Rams agreement, Angel contract nego- tiations, bond issues, Stadium and Convention Center construction program and others. Also, they had more Federal Court Cases filed in the past year because of recent Supreme Court decisions. Additional work had also been required in connection with elections and ballot measures, annexations, bond issues, special ordinances and special cases. The City now had a self-insurance program and claims against the City were handled through the City Attorney's office causing their budget to look higher than it would normally. The hiring of outside counsel was necessary because they did not have sufficient staff to handle the volume of cases cbming through. Legal costs were escalating and various law firms were increasing their hourly rates. There was no doubt that an additional attorney was needed to handle cases. He hoped that the Worker's Compensation litigation would decrease under SB375 ~Green) being considered in the Legislature at this time. If successful, it should decrease litigation in the Worker's Compensation field drastically which, in turn, would help to decrease the work load. He then relayed some of the statistics contained in the Misdemeanor Prosecution Section report showing that in 1975, there were 1,794 jury trials escalating each year to where in 1979 there were 2,946 such trials. He recently sent a memo to the Council outlining how he felt the prosecution staff could do a better job for the City and how that section could provide citizens of Anaheim with better service. Councilman Overholt stated he was interested in the Misdemeanor Prosecutions and asked the ultimate goal of that effort philosophically. Mr. Hopkins stated the goal was to successfully prosecute misdemeanor cases where arrests had been made by the Anaheim Police Department. Their role was to provide expert service in the field and to have a better liaison with the Police Department to provide a 'superier level of service to the City. They had to make sure that the citizens of Anaheim had justice done, not necessarily higher convictions. Councilman Bay asked if in the coming year the City Attorney expected a drop in the litigation which resulted due to the Council action against adult entertain- ment, bingo, etc. or a continuing pattern in the coming year that would get bigger instead of smaller. Mr. Hopkins answered that he did not think it would get bigger, but that it would continue and he thereupon explained the reasons why. They would still be getting attacks on the ordinances relating to bingo, gambling, etc., but he assumed that once the Appellate Courts had given a decision, they would start to taper off. Councilman Overholt complimented the City Attorney on the percentages obtained on prosecutions which he considered to be "fantastic." The level of performance was excellent all across the board. The City Attorney's budget presentation concluded the departmental input from City Departments relative to the 1980-81 Resource Allocation Plan. 80-780 CitM ~11, ~naheim, California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980, 10:00 A.M. Mayor Seymour stated at this juncture, the Council had the opportunity individually to express general or specific feelings about the budget. He was certain that some members would have some priorities not included in the budget consideration and those should be on the record for the City Manager to prepare appropriate responses for final consideration at the June 24, 1980 meeting, with the objective being that they conclude the budget process that date. He asked first to hear from Councilman Overholt. Councilman Overholt stated that he was very concerned about the public plant, i.e. streets and sewers which in his opinion had been neglected since the time he had been on the Council because of decreasing funds. He would be sympathetic to extending the street maintenance program beyond that in the budget. Further, he had not had an opportunity to read the memo from James Ruth regarding the newsletter, but he was interested in the ~possibility of instituting a City- wide newsletter perhaps on a pilot basis for reasons previously stated. He shared the concern the Mayor expressed in doing what was necessary to get a handle on what had been labled, neighborhood crime which he felt also extended into the business community. He was concerned about cost in the sense that what- ever was done, it should be significant so that it actually accomplished some- thing. He would be very interested in seeing what kinds of input they received from Chief Tielsch who had been charged with telling them what he felt was necessary. Although Proposition 9 was defeated, the taxpayers long ago expressed themselves that they wanted government to be lean, and he was committed to that philosophy. He concluded that his three areas of interest were primarily in the area of neighborhood crime, maintenance of the City plant, streets and sewers, and communicating with their constituents. Councilwoman Kaywood stated she was very concerned again about the need for storm drains. Obviously they could not be done in the budget but by a bond issue whether on the ballot in November or some other time. That worked right in with keeping the streets in good condition. She was also concerned about a subject that had not been brought up before. With the new City Hall and where ~he Council had offices instead of just a mailbox, she felt there was need for some additional clerical help. In her opinion, to best serve cons[ituents,- Councilwoman Kaywood believed the Council needed to have their individu~i ~coming mail sorted on their desks and have somebody there to dictate ~letters to at that-time. ~he M~¥or had received that kind of help all along, but it had not been available to the rest of the Council. 'That was not a "smack" in any way at the City Clerk's office since they were all busy ~nd working, and there was no extra time for anyone. With the physidal separation between the Clerk on the seventh floor, it was inefficient to conduct business in that manner. She felt that someone, whether part-time or whatever it took, should be available to individual Council Members for assistance, so that they could better serve all the citizens. Councilman Roth first congratulated staff and City Manager and conveyed his thanks on an intelligent Resource Allocation Plan. It was well put together and the hearings had established that fact. 80-781 City Hall, Anaheim, California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980~ 10:00 A.M. Relative to his priorities, he was extremely interested in seeing that TLC received the $9,000 they requested. He was also concerned with the police situation and the need for additional police officers especially with regard to burglary problems plaguing the City and which would continue if the economy continue to get tighter. He was very interested in "beefing up" the Police Department. Relative to street repairs, Anaheim was the number one City in the County with prime Redevelopment taking place in the downtown area. In need of immediate attention were the streets surrounding that area including Lincoln, Broadway and those streets entering the Redevelopment area. They needed to do something and spend more dollars and stop using the "band-aid" approach. Positive action would encourage those merchants and property owners in the area to start taking better care of their own properties. One last item, he asked that the City Manager and staff take a look in the future to see if they could eliminate City property taxes. The City budget was almost $300 million and the City property taxes represented approximately $7 million of that. Ail their enterprising efforts were going to provide many dollars to the City Treasury which should be offset by some plan with Anaheim showing the leader- ship in California and particularly in Orange County that would work toward the elimination of the City property tax. Councilman Bay stated his number one priority the coming year was neighborhood crime because he felt it was the number one problem in the City. He felt strongly that if it took five new beats to really do something about what the City was living with in the neighborhood crime area, they needed to find a way to do just that. They were looking at a "top of the head" figure of approximately $900,000 before getting an actual breakdown or $1 million and perhaps more by the time support was added. It could not be done over night and would take a recruitment program, effort and time and perhaps four to six months to put those beats on the street. He felt strongly they should put a great deal of priority on doing that and a good estimate of what it was going to cost. He wanted to find the money for that in the overall budget. Councilman Bay continued there was no way for him to go through the budget and determine where he thought there was fat, but he knew there was some. It had been in every budget that he had ever seen done on a large scale. He wanted to see the City Manager come back with small cuts across certain areas to come up with close to $1 million across the whole budget and across all the depart- ments, and wherever he saw fat to remove it or put a greater demand on a department head to do it better with less money. He did not think they would need that much to start the implementation of five more police beats in the City. Councilman Bay stated his second priority was street maintenance and generally he felt the City streets were going downhill because of the "band-aid" approach. He did not see any real problem with Lincoln if all they had to do was make it last three to five years. He hoped it would not take longer than that to get some answers from the railroad and get going on the underpass. He believed the key in doing that was available in Redevelopment funds and that was where it w~uld come from to at least accomplish the Lincoln portion out to East Street, because that street was in bad shape. 80-782 City H~ll, Anaheim, California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980~ 10:00 A.M. He was very pleased with the Parks & Recreation report but was also concerned as to what they were going to do on the Shorb-Wells property and some of the other areas where they were looking for money to come in to get those things done. His only other concern lay in the fact that there was no way he could take the whole budget and see where savings accrued as they centralized into the new Civic Center. He was asking the City Manager to pick that out of the budget and put it towards the new police beats. When he looked at City-owned property some of which was going to be vacated and some of which would be torn down, leaving the land, he wanted to know what they were going to get out of it, the revenues, where was it going to go and was that shown in the budget. In concluding, he stated considering the complexity and size of the budget, generally it was easy to understand, but difficult to lay it back against spe- cifics of last year and the year before that. Mayor Seymour stated to Mr. Talley that he had done a good job of putting the budget together--it was a readable document. He then stated that his priorities were a war on neighborhood crime with a price tag in the vicinity of $1 million. The next would be street improvements at $686,000; restrooms at the Stadium, $80,000; signalization around the Stadium, $580,000; improvement of Lincoln between Citron and I-5 at $225,000. He was aware of the $1 million they had representing additional bailout funds but he, like Councilmmn Bay, did not feel that source of funds should be utilized to support the additions needed in the Police Department, rather the City Manager should provide them with a long list of priority cues with the budget as proposed, whereby the Council could select from those cuts and exchange them for the five new beats. The Chief indicated he could get a handle on crime with five new beats. He did believe, however, that the additional $1 million should be avail- able for other public improvements he mentioned. On June 24th, it would be appropriate to have all Department Heads present because in proposing such a list of cuts, the Department Heads were going to want to either defend or speak to those possible cuts. City Manager Talley explained that he had spent a great deal of time on the statement that the Chief of Police made Tuesday, June 10, 1980 (see minutes that date). When he talked about 25 men for five beats, in those figures, there was nothing included for either supervisory or staff support. The figure quoted was raw manpower. They were looking at a figure, and he was going to guess because the report would not be finished until Monday, approximately 60% higher for total police services. A preliminary estimate would indicate the need for five supervisorial staff and between five and ten support people in addition to the 25. They might be talking somewhere around $1.6 or $1.7 million which was a substantial cut to have to make in taking it from other than the Utilities or Enterprise Funds. It was a substantial task that would be done, but there would be some very hefty service cuts as a result. The Council was telling him they wanted to start a program that would have to be supported annually and even if it were to be cut in half the first year, the next year it would be approximately $1.7 million. He had no problem with that other than he wanted the Council to know-that at the meeting with the Chief and Captain Mang, that was the feedback evolving from the discussion. 80-783 CitH Hall, Anaheim, California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980, 10:00 A.M. The Mayor stated it was incumbent upon each of them to do their own digging and to come up with some proposed cuts if that was the objective. Councilman Overholt stated, implicit in what appeared to be one of the top priorities of the Council were the ongoing problems of recruiting and no matter what they put in the budget, if they could not recruit new personnel, there would be recurring crime problems. He recommended that there be some- thing in the way of ongoing recruitment and that should be part of the cost package. He agreed that they had to look upon it as an annual affair. The Mayor stated he was looking for priority trade-offs; Councilman Overholt felt that they were in agreement. He commented that it was interesting how the priorities emerged on the two big issues, maintenance and police. His concern relative to police was what the funds would buy, and he was anxious to hear from Chief Tielsch on the matter. Councilwoman Kaywood stated that the Chief could not guarantee any kind of results. When talking about slashing other departments and programs, she had not seen anything that came before them that she did not consider important relative to service levels ~o the community. The five-man task force was just about ready, and she hoped that was going to make a difference in itself. She also felt they should improve on the Neighborhood Watch programs because the police could not be everywhere. Further, Councilman Roth had her worried when talking about wiping out the Redevelopment program on the already cut-in-half property taxes. Councilman Roth interjected and stated it did not come from the City property tax and that was not what he was relating to. He was speaking of the $7 million placed in the City's General Fund from that portion of City property tax, and it had nothing to do with the tax increment funds. He was not trying to eliminate that or Redevelopment. It should be a long-range objective. The City was unique and the citizens of the community should benefit from the enterprises in the City, and eliminating the property tax was one way of doing so. Councilwoman Kaywood asked for some kind of statement on what the elimination of property tax would do right now to the Redevelopment increment funds of the program itself and what other things would be cut. The Mayor then askef for further comments relative to priorities. Councilwoman Kaywood stated that she wanted to think about a storm drain bond issue on the ballot in November; Councilman Roth reemphasized the need for beefing up the Police force. People needed protection, they were afraid in their own homes, and the Council had to do everything in its power to eliminate the burglary problem not only in residential areas but also in the business community. He was also concerned about the condition of the streets. Councilman Bay stated there was no change in his priorities, police protection being number one. He felt that with the increase in police beats and concentra- tion in the burglary and neighborhood crime areas, there was a possibility that it may not have to remain that strong year after year. It may be a figure they had to continue to carry for five to ten years. They might be able to take ~Qme attrition losses within the Police Department and not replace them as they controlled those areas of crime. 80-784 City Hall, Anaheim, California - COUNCIL MINUTES - June 13, 1980~ 10:00 A.M. The Mayor stalted that the Chief could respond more appropriately to the last point, but he suspected that he was going to say it did not work that way. He felt if they were going to make such a commitment, it would be long-term and he had no problem whatsoever in making such a commitment. If it was $1.6 million, he was prepared to pay that because the protection of life and property was the single most important purpose. He intended to spend some time going through the line item budget and coming up with some cuts in order to get a handle on crime. City Manager Talley explained that the staff of the Police Department and admini- stration were fearful that with the addition of five more beats, although they would have a safer community and arrest more people and there would be less crime in the City, it did not mean there would be lower crime rates or fewer crimes. No one wanted to give the Council a guarantee. The more policemen, the more crimes they would find. Mayor Seymour stated that they then should not get hung up on the crime rate. They could come up with any measurement such as the MBO method. They wanted safer neighborhoods, not to play a numbers game--some number of additional policemen on the streets that would equate with a safer neighborhood. ADJOURNMENT: Councilwoman Kaywood moved to adjourn. Councilman Overholt seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED. Adjourned: 2:28 P.M.