Minutes-PC 2007/10/15City of nahee
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Commissioners Present:
Commissioners Absent:
Mondav, October 15, 2007
Council Chamber, City Hall
200 South Anaheim Boulevard, Anaheim, California
Chairman: Kelly Buffa
Peter Aganval, Gail Eastman, Stephen Faessel,
Joseph Karaki, Panky Romero, Pat Velasquez
None
Staff Present:
Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney
Dave See, Senior Planner
Scott Koehm, Associate Planner
Kim Wong, Planner
Dennis Joe, Planning Aide
Jamie Lai, Principal Civil Engineer
David Kennedy, Associate Engineer
Elly Morris, Senior Secretary
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary
Agenda Posting: A complete copy of the Planning Commission Agenda was posted
at 2:00 p.m. on October 11, 2007, inside the display case located in the foyer of the
Council Chambers, and also in the outside display kiosk.
Published: Anaheim Bulletin Newspaper on Thursday, October 4, 2007
. Call To Order
• Preliminary Plan Review 1:00 P.M.
• STAFF UPDATE TO COMMISSION ON VARIOUS CITY DEVELOPMENTS
AND ISSUES (AS REQUESTED BY PLANNING COMMISSION)
• PRELIMINARY PLAN REVIEW FOR ITEMS ON THE OCTOBER 15, 2007 AGENDA
a Recess To Public Hearing
s Reconvene To Public Hearing 2:30 P.IN.
Attendance: 70
• Pledge Of Allegiance:
. Public Comments
a Consent Galendar
o Public Hearing Items
o Adjournment
Commissioner Karaki
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Anaheim Planning Commission Agenda - 2:30 P.M.
Public Comments: None
Consent Calendar:
Commissioner Eastman offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Faessel and
MOTION CARRIED, for approval of Consent Calendar Items 1A through 1 D as
recommended by staff.
Renorts and Recommendations
~a.(a) CEQA SECOND ADDENDUM TO THE POWTE
{b) FINAL SITE P~AM NO. 2007-00009
Agent: Chris Samuelian
Morris Architects
2046 Armacost Avenue
Los Angeles, CA 90025
Location: 500 West Disnev Wav
Continued from the August 20, and the September 17,
2007, Planning Commission meetings.
Request review and approval of a final site plan to
construct a 400-unit time share within the Anaheim
GardenWalk project.
Continued to
October 29, 2007
Consent Calendar
Approval
VOTE: 7-0
Project P/anner.
(dhemckQanaheim. net)
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16. (a) CEQA MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION Approved
(PREVIOUSLY APPROVED)
(b) VARIANCE NO. 2004-04626 Approved
(c) TENTATNE TRACT MAP NO. 16545 Approved
(Tracking Nos. VAR2007-04736 and SUB2007-00050)
Agent: Jonathan Pearson Consent Calendar
California Cove Approval
8105 Irvine Center Drive Suite 800
Irvine, CA 92618
VOTE: 7-0
Location: Property is approximately 53-acres, and has
a frontage of 190 feet at the terminus of Avenida de scaff~t~risea u~at the scaef
Santiago, a maximum depth of 2,657 feet and is located report should indicate
260 feet from the centerline of Pointe Premier (No "cEQn Ntirigacea rresari~e
Addf eSS~. Declaration" The agenda has
the correct language.
Request to permit a time extension to comply with
conditions of approval for the following applications:
Variance No. 2004-04626 - Waiver of required private
street standards to construct a private residential street
without sidewalks or parkways.
Tentative Tract Map No. 16545 - To establish a 28-lot, Projecf Planner.
21-unit detached single-family subdivision ~Skoenmc~a~anerm.~er~
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IIAin es
1 C. Receiving and approving the Minutes from the Planning
Commission Meeting of September 17, 2007.
Continued from the October 1, 2007 Planning Commission meeting.
(Motion)
1 D. Receiving and approving the Minutes from the Planning
Commission Meeting of October 1, 2007. (Motion)
Approved, with
modifications to page 16
Consent Calendar
Approval
VOTE: 7-0
Continued to
October 29, 2007
Consent Calendar
Approval
VOTE: 7-0
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Public Hearina Items:
2a. CEQA MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION Romero/Eastman
(PREVIOUSLY APPROVED)
2b. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT Romero/Eastman
2C. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2003-04816 Romero
(TRACKING NO. CUP2007-05230)
Owner: Southern Califomia Edison
14799 Chestnut Street
Westminster, CA 92683
Agent: A~aheim RV Storage
2719 West Lincoln Avenue
Anaheim, CA 92801
Location: 2719 and 2724 West Lincoln Avenue":
Parcel 1: Property is approximately 4-acre, having a frontage
of 265 feet on the north side of Lincoln Avenue, and is located
210 feet west of the centerline of La Reina Circle (2719 West
Lincoln Avenue).
Parcel 2: Property is approximately 1.8 acre, having a
frontage of 132 feet on the south side of Lincoln Avenue, and
is Iocated 587 feet west of the centerline of Stinson Street
(2724 West Lincoln Avenue).
Request to delete a condition of approval pertaining to a time limitation for
a previously-approved recreational vehicle storage facility and an
accessory modular office building approved with waivers of maximum
fence height and minimum front yard setback.
" Advertised as 2720 and 2721 West Lincoln Avenue.
Continued from the October 1, 2007, Planning Commission Meeting.
Conditional Use Permit Resolution No. PC2007-119
Dennis Joe, Planning Aide, presented the staff report.
Approved
Approved
Approved, with
deletion of time
limitation
VOTE: 7-0
Project Planner.
(djoeQanaheim.net)
Chairman Buffa opened the public hearing then closed it as no one was present to speak on
the item.
Commissioner Romero stated he does not want to approve the Conditional Use Permit with
a 40 year time limitation. It should have a 4 year time limitation and review it should be
reviewed again at that time, maybe longer, but not in 40 years.
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Commissioner Velasquez clarified the request is for no time limitation
Commissioner Eastman asked if they approve something that is unlimited, are they still
under the Conditional Use Permit? If there are any violations, would the applicant still have
to comply with the conditions?
Dave See, Senior Planner, stated that is correct. The applicant has to abide by conditions
of approval and operational standards and there is a revocation process that the City can
initiate.
Commissioner Velasquez asked what the General Plan Designation is for the property.
Chairman Buffa stated this property and the property to the north and south are Open
Space because they are in a Utility Corridor.
Commissioner Velasquez agreed with Commissioner Romero, that they could lock
themselves in there for 60 years with no change.
Chairman Buffa asked the Commissioners to keep in mind that Southern California Edison
owns the property and has their power lines over the top, and controls what can be done.
The types of uses that can be on the site have to be under 12 feet tall. Edison has no
obligation to make it a park and the City does not have the money to make it a park.
Commissioner Eastman stated there is nothing in the action they are taking today that could
prevent it from becoming a park in the future, if it changes hands.
Commissioner Velasquez stated the City has no say if the applicant chooses to remain
there for 60 years.
Chairman Buffa stated the property is'like any property in the City, owned by a private
landowner, with Zoning and General Plan Designations. If the City wants to change these
designations, it could be amended. She thinks it is a good use for what could otherwise
tend to be badly maintained Edison parcels. Asking the applicant to come back every few
years to keep the business in place puts a cloud on their ability to operate a business.
Commissioner Romero stated in light of that, he would be willing to reconsider his
statement. He agreed with Chairman Buffa that this is a private matter and the business
may be there for 40 years.
Commissioner Romero offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Eastman to approve
the CEQA Mitigated Negative Declaration. Motion passed with 7 ayes votes.
Commissioner Romero offered a resolution to approve amendment to Conditional Use
Permit 2003-04816 to delete time limitation.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary, announced that the resolution passed with 7 yes votes
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Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney, presented the 22-day appeal rights ending at 5:00
p:m. on November 6, 2~07.
OPPOSITION: None
DISCUSSION TIME: 9 minutes (4:36-4:45)
This item was trailed as the applicant was not presenf (2:35 p.m.)
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3a. CEQA PIEGATIVE DECLARATIOIV (READVERTISED)
3b. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2007-00460
3c. RECLASSIFICATION NO. 2006-00190
3d. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT
3e. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2006-05175
3f. TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 17739
Owner: Natalie Tran
3100 Lindacita Lane
Anaheim, CA 92804-1715
Quyen Tran
237 South Beach Boulevard
Anaheim, CA 92804-1815
Agent: Mertco
Attn: Roy Ward
2614 Ocean Boulevard
Corona Del Mar, CA 92625
Velasquez/Faessel
Velasquez/Agarwal
Velasquez
Velasquez/Faessel
Velasquez
Velasquez/Faessel
Location: 237 South Beach Boulevard and 3100 West Lindacita Lane:
Portion A: This irregularly-shaped 0.27-acre property has a
frontage of 47 feet on the southeast side of Lindacita Lane and a
maximum depth of 142 feet (3100 West Lindacita Lane).
Portion B: This irregularly-shaped 1.68 acres property is a land-
locked parcel with a maximum depth of 287 feet and is located
north across a flood control channel from 3067 and 3079 West
Orange Avenue and is located 175 feet south of the centerline of
Grand Avenue (237 South Beach Boulevard).
General Plan Amendment No. 2007-00470 - Request withdrawn by
applicant.
Reclassification No. 2006-00190 - Request reclassification of'Portion B
from the T{Transition) zone to the RS-4 {Residential, Single-Family)
zone, or a less intense zone and to remove the Mobile Home Park
Overlay zone.
Conditional Use Permit No. 2006-05175 - Request to construct a 9-unit
detached single-family residential subdivision with waiver of improvement
of private street for Portions A and B, and waiver of minimum lot area for
Portion A.
Tentative Tract Map No. 17139 - To establish a 12 numbered and
lettered lot, 10-unit detached single-family residential subdivision for
Portions A and B.
Approved
Withdrawn
Denied
Denied
Denied
Denied
VOTE ON CEQA
AND GPA: 7-0
VOTE ON RCL,
CUP, WAIVERS
AND TTM: 4-3
Commissioners Buffa,
Eastman and Karaki
voted no
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Continued from the June 11, June 25, July 9, August 20, September 5,
and the September 17, 2007, Planning Commission Meetings.
*Advertised to include Reclassification of Portion A from the RS-2
(Residential, Single-Family) zone to the RS-4 (Residential, Single-Family)
zone, or a less intense zone.
Reclassification Resolution No. PC2007-117
Conditional Use Permit Resolution No. PC2007-118
Kimberly Wong, Planner, presented the staff report.
Project Planner.
(kwong2@anaheim. net)
Chairman Buffa referred to the aerial in the staff report and asked staff if they had a chance to
look at the site line issues with regard to the relocation of the private street.
David Kennedy, Public Works, advised the site distance is adequate. It is over 300 feet for both
approaches.
Chairman Buffa asked why staff thinks the headlights from cars exiting the private street going
eastbound on Lindacita, would be more of a blinding condition than any other opposing
intersectio~.
Mr. Kennedy stated the private street will exit siightly above the level of the street due the ramp
that will be reconfigured. This could potentially affect oncoming traffic.
Chairman Buffa confirmed that staff is concerned about traffic from the private street blinding
traffic o~ Lindacita, not traffic on Lindacita blinding traffic coming from private street.
Mr. Kennedy stated that is correct.
Commissioner Velasquez asked if it would also be the case for traffic on Grand Avenue if they
moved the driveway based on staffs recommendation.
Mr. Kennedy advised traffic on Grand Avenue is not pointed towards the private driveway. That
is not a concern, with the proposed driveway. There are no alignment issues at all because they
are coming from angles that are not 90 degrees.
Chairman Buffa opened the public hearing.
Roy Ward, President of Mertco Inc., developer for the Tran family. He stated the property is land
locked. Opening the private access by legal easement to Lindacita would make it safer for the
mobile home park because there are no sidewalks or parkways. Their goal is simply to unlock
the land locked parcel. They have entered into a letter agreement with the City of Anaheim
Utilities Division to commit to building all of the properties green. If they open the access to
Lindacita Lane, they will reduce traffic on the easement through the Cherokee Mobile Home Park
by having three electronic gates between the easement and Lindacita Lane that have to be
breached to have access onto the easement. Mrs. Tran owns the easement. They have had
meeti~gs with the Cherokee people to mitigate their concems and they have agreed to help them
solve their drai~age problem. They agreed to raise the wall between the park and the Tran
property to give the Mobile Home Park more privacy. They moved the street to the north
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boundary of the Tran property to provide more distance from the living areas and the mobile
home park. He asked the Commission to refer to the written responses they submitted to
address issues from a previous public hearing.
This development wili bring less than S% of ail the traffic that flows on Lindacita Lane and Grand
Avenue. He stated they have received minimum cooperation and consideration for the mitigation
measures, especially from City Traffic fngineering staff. They feel it could have been worked
out a long time ago. They would not have had to do a second report. They feel the second
report is a reasonable soiution to the probiem. Mertco is ready to provide any kind of traffic
control.
He read a section from page 3 of the traffic analysis. They feel if they can put a stop sign at the
intersection, it will reduce speed and the passing through of high school students. He asked for
approval of the project.
Chairman Buffa asked why he does not want to move the private street, as staff suggests.
Mr. Ward advised it would be the sixth change on the plot plan. It would also cause planning
problems because they would not have a legal lot, it would be too small. If they leave the private
street to the east, they would still have a legal lot.
Betty Wilkinson, 3104 Lindacita Lane, lives on the property adjoining to the west, where staff
suggests they move the street. They concur with staff that the access to Lindacita Lane Lane is
unsafe. The February 6~h traffic study was prepared when Grand Avenue was ciosed off
between Lincoln Avenue and Del Monte Drive due to construction on Lincoln Avenue, therefore,
that count is invalid. Regardless, this is a dangerous intersection. They are going to try to get
speed limit signs ar stop signs on Grand Avenue. The property in question has limited use. It
used to be a flood control property that was sold by the County to the adjoining mobile home
park, with access to Beach Boulevard. The parcel has been resold and separated with a
recorded easement. She suggested sectioning off the acre i~to garden plots, then renting it to
the seniors in the mobile home park for gardens.
She stated the property frontage is 47 feet, but it narrows down by her driveway and it looks like
the new street will come across her driveway. She also stated one person will have control of
the street and she has an easement to tindacita Lane and Beach Boulevard and may have
gates. She asked who will control who goes through the street. She asked the Commission to
deny this project because it is unsafe.
Terry Sanford, 235 South Beach, #106, President of Cherokee Mobile Homeowners Association.
She stated driveway was placed along the border of the Mobile Home Park because they were
concerned about private property backing up to their fence and iwo story buildings overlooking
the properry. They are concerned about the easement and the gate between the properties is
seldom, if ever closed. They are already having problems with kids from the high school and
junior high riding skateboards and other things through their park since the youth center opened.
They have control in the park by being able to fine owners, but cannot control anyone else. If a
new access is accepted, they will have private property backing up to their fence line with young
people jumping the fence and using their park for access to the youth center across the street.
Charles Bradley, member of WAND and Chairman of WAND Land Use Committee. He stated
Grand Avenue was closed because in new sewers were being installed. He said the kids jump
over the fence to go to the youth center. If a gate is there, it will make an easier pathway for
them to cut through. He also asked how fire trucks would back up on this property. He asked for
denial of project.
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Mary Gray, Secretary of the Board of Directors of Cherokee Mobile Home Park. She stated they
provide homes to people of low to moderate income, but many homes in the park are over
$200,000. They are asking that a 7 foot high fence be erected across the entire property line
between Cherokee Mobile Home Park and the Tran property. The fence would separate the
park from the new development. Mrs. Tran will have an exit from her property to a public street
which she does not have now. They have tried to have good relations with Mrs. Tran, but she
refuses to speak with them or their attorney. Cherokee Mobile Home Park furnishes her with her
gas and water. If Commission allows the zoning change without separating the properties, it will
make their Park part of the development. They have a 285 foot easement through the Tran
property, which is water drainage for half the Park. Their drain does not work properly and they
do ~ot know what causes the problem. At one of the meetings, Mr. Ward stated he would
replace the drain at his cost. At a later meeting, he said Cherokee Mobile Home Park could
replace the drain at their cost. The latest statement is that Cherokee Mobile Home Park can
replace the drain and he will tap into it for the water run-off for all of his new homes. They
presume that means a section of Mrs. Tran's property too. There are no written agreements
between Cherokee Mobile Home Park and Mr. Ward. The drainage problem affects over 80
homes, which is half the Park.
Chairman Buffa stated they will ask the applicant about the drainage issue today.
Christine West, 3110 West Valejo Drive. She stated the proposed houses will not be single
family residences. All the houses sold on her street in the last couple of years are multi-family.
One house has 10 cars.
Chairman Buffa asked Ms. West to show Commission where her street is located
Ms. West stated she was in a cul-de-sac , she further stated the traffic counters did not count
traffic going into her area, or any traffic coming in on the west end of Lindacita Lane. The traffic
counters were put on the north side of Lindacita Lane on the west end. It is very crowded
because the high school kids park there.
Shirley Bonem, 3119 Lindacita Lane Lane. She pointed out it will become even more unsafe
when the high school kids go to and from school. She asked the Commission to address the lot
size of the houses in portion B. She feels zoning should be the same as residentiai houses.
Chairman Buffa asked staff to put up an exhibit that shows the relationship of the high school
and the project.
Ms. Wong stated they did not have an exhibit but will provide one.
Commissioner Faessei asked staff to point out the fence that people are talking about.
Chairman Buffa stated she thinks the kids are going east to the neighborhood center across the
street and cutting through the Mobile Home Park, hopping the fence through the Tran's property
then going out through someone's backyard.
Maxine Peterson, 3152 W. Lindacita Lane. She does not think the Commission understands
what they are going through a~d asked them to be more aware of the problems. They do not
want the Tran's back there.
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Deborah Quigley, 3140 E. Radcliff. She stated in August she passed out over 3,000 yards of
yellow ribbon which was displayed on property owner's trees and poles showing opposition to
this project. She asked the Commission to drive through and look at the yellow ribbons.
That morning she found over 802 open listings on the Multiple'Listing Service with 3 bedrooms or
more in Anaheim. Prices began at a low of $300,000 up to over $1,000,000. Housing is in a
slump and there is no need for new homes.
To answer Commissioner Faessel's question, Anaheim High School is less tha~ a 5 minutes
walk. Western High School is also part of the community. They do not need extra homes, traffic
and parking in the area. She asked how does the good of one outweigh the good of many. She
further asked the Commission to vote no.
She aiso pointed out if the applicant ever added street extensions to Beach Boulevard, it would
be even more traffic.
Mark Bucher, 18002 Irvine Boulevard, Tustin, attorney for Cherokee Mobile Home Park. He
emphasized the new street wifl go in and literally connect onto the street. There will be gates,
but experience shows gates do not stay closed. They know high schooler's will take the shortcut
through the Park. All they have asked the applicant to do is make one of the walls solid, to stop
the access. This would alleviate the ability to cut through, if the gates are left open. The Tran's
currently have one way out. If a wall was built, they would still have one way out and the
property will not be adversely affected. The applicant insists on having two ways out. He has
tried to cail Mrs. Tran and Mr. Ward, but neither one of them wili speak to him. He asked for a
wall in one way or another.
Gustavo Hernandez, 207 Loma Linda. He stated his house is at one of the main entrances.
Traffic is compacted by the apartment complexes, where population density is extremely high
and there is hardly any parking, so the apartment parking overflows into their neighborhood. He
is very concerned about the lack of parking. He is also concerned about safety because it is
congested and people use driveways, where the children play, to turn around. Whenever there
are any events at the high school, parking overflows into their neighborhood. Also, there are no
stop signs and people drive pretty fast, so having direct access will aggravate the problem.
Greg Dale, 334 S. Grand Avenue. He stated his house abuts the proJect and he does not want
two-story houses looking into his bedroom. Students park on both sides of the street which
makes it narrow and dangerous, especially because Grand Avenue and Lindacita Lane are
straight streets, which tends to allow going over the speed limit.
Scott Layne, 334 S. Grand Avenue. He stated he has lived there since 1958 and wants to state
his opposition because of the safety, traffic, overfiow parking, loss of privacy and continuity in the
neighborhood.
Bill Webright, 3140 Paso Robles Drive. He stated any increase in traffic to this development will
pose an increase of injury to pedestrian traffic, especially students. The intersection of Lindacita
Lane and Western Avenue has no crosswalk. It is uncontrolled and is unsafe. It is worse before
and after school hours. Last month, he observed traffic from 7:30 until 8:10 a.m. and found the
student pedestrian traffic and street traffic has increased. He observed students crossing and
stopping in the middle of the street to wait for a break in traffic, but cars that were turning left
would stop in the center turning lane which blocked the vision of students to oncoming traffic.
Also, cars traveling south, stopped in the street to offioad students on Lindacita Lane, then try to
tum onto Western Avenue, making it even more dangerous. It is not a safe situation. His
concern is for the health and safety of the students. He asked the Commission to vote no.
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John Searight, 3111 West Viejo Lane. He agreed that from 7:25 until 8:25 a.m. it is very
dangerous due to parked cars, cars dropping off students, and students trying to cross without
using marked crossing lanes. There are long periods during the day when there is very little
traffic on these streets. He pointed out that the parking allowance of 36 cars for this number of
homes needs to be Iooked at. In the California lifestyle, it is very seldom that the two spaces in
the garage are used for a car. Most have one car in garage and the rest is used for storage, and
in many homes, no cars are in the garage. They are not addressing the reality of how people are
really using their property. He has difficulty going into his driveway when there are events at the
school.
Carol Hoffman,327 S. Grand Avenue. She stated this project was purchased as a Iandlocked
parcel several years ago and nothing has changed, so it should not be a consideration at all.
The community will iose the privacy and safety that they have had for the last 30 - 50 years.
She asked the Commission to deny the proposal.
Chairman Buffa closed the public hearing.
Mr. Ward stated there is no other legitimate access for the Tran family to reach the public street.
Regardless of the neighbor's concerns, at sometime they will get access to a public street. Their
traffic consuitant stated the traffic on Lindacita Lane would increase by 80 - 86 movements per
day, 36 trips will go to Lindacita Lane and 50 will go to Grand Avenue, which is a reasonable
number if you divide it by the number of hours in the day. The Tran family is trying to adhere to
the zoning in the General Plan. He stated they wrote to the attorney who represents Cherokee
Mobile Home Park advising him what they wanted to do to help the Park and what they were
willing to do on the drainage, with a little cooperation, involving no cost. They changed the
access because they thought the mobile home park wanted more privacy and it gave them more
parking along the fence. They cannot do anything about the student activiry that has been there
for as long as the people have lived there. They have reduced the zoning, they could have had
up to 18 condominiums, but have 8 plus the family home. They do not think that is
overburdening the neighborhood. They have had a lot of resistance from the nelghbors, but pian
to do a good thing for the community and they think it will be a good project.
Commissioner Eastman stated she met with the developer. In order for her to give her total
support, she would like to see that there is no access between the two properties so that there is
no possibility for gates to be left open that would allow people to transition though the Park. She
asked Mr. Ward if that was possible.
Mr. Ward commented that there are no open fences making it impossible for the kids to cut
through the Park and the Tran property. There are other fences, but not through the Tran
property.
Commissioner Eastman stated she is concerned about the testimony from numerous people that
there is an issue about that gate not always being closed. She can identify with the people in the
Park, because whenever there is a gate, there is a concern that it is left open.
Mr. Ward agreed it is not the best answer, but they could not get an answer from counsel on
what they would like to do with that easement.
Commissioner Eastman stated she is not talking about the easement. She asked if he would be
agreeabie to a solid wall instead of a gate between Mrs. Tran's property and the new
development.
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Mr. Ward said if they conditioned it with the approval, they would have to try, but could not
guarantee it. If Mr. Bruker would call Mr. or Mrs. Tran, maybe they could work something out.
Until they are willing to do that, Mrs. Tran is going to keep her easement because that is a real
property item.
Commissioner Eastman stated she would not be comfortable approving this particular plan with a
gate for anyone in this location.
Mr. Ward stated he cannot answer that at this time.
Commissioner Romero stated he has the same concern and if the applicant is willing to have a
solid wall he would be supportive.
Chairman Buffa wanted to make sure everyone is talking about a wall between the northern edge
of lot 9 and the northern property wall, so Mrs. Tran would be using the existing easement
through Cherokee Estates, but new residents would not be able to get there.
Mr. Ward stated they changed the whole layout of the tract so that they wouid have extra
distance between the development and fence. At first, the argument was privacy, so they
changed it. Also, as for the headlight blinding probiem, the answer is to have a lighted corner
and it has already been placed there.
Chairman Buffa asked Mr. Ward how the project will solve the drainage probiem.
Mr. Ward stated the Park has a severe wet weather drainage problem at a sump at the end of
the street. From that point on through the development, there is a drainage easement with a
developed line in it. Via a letter, they told Mr. Bucher they would help them solve the probiem if
they got an engineer to look at it and tell them what it needs. To say they have not done that, is
not fair.
Chairman Buffa asked if they were going to build an oversize drain on the property
Mr. Ward stated he would if that is what it takes to correct their system. The engineering on this
Mobile Home Park is 40 years old and it was undersized at the time and needs upsizing. They
do not have a problem doing it because they have to exit also. He is asking the Park to pay their
proportionate share, they wili take on the big burden.
Commissioner Karaki asked where the proposed drain is located
Mr. Ward stated they are in the street toward the channel, at the lowest point. The houses close
to Lindacita Lane will drain into that connection. They do not have an e~gineer's plan yet so he is
guessing.
Chairman Buffa stated she can see that people want to talk, but the public hearing has been
closed.
Commissioner Eastman stated she read that the developer made it clear that they expected to
be cooperative and pay their fair share and feels that is all you can ask of someone.
Commissioner Velasquez feels the most important issue to her is safety. The traffic engineer is
recommending denial and she is unwilling to second-guess the recommendation from staff,
therefore she will vote to deny the project.
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Commissioner Romero commented that the Commission is entrusted to make land use decisions
and based on today's testimony and the testimony in the past, there are too many open issues
besides the safety factor. He is unwilling to approve the project.
Commissioner Faessel stated he understands the Tran family's right to develop the property, but
agrees with the other Commissioners. There are unmitigated open issues and feels he cannot
vote in a positive way. There are adjoining land owners that feel the project is a hardship on
them, plus with the safety issues he cannot vote for this project either.
Commissioner Agarwal stated he is torn between the residents and the property owner's right to
develop. He does not think the developer has mitigated some of the issues and he is mostly
concerned with the safety issue. He stated he is not very supportive of the project.
Commissioner Karaki stated before he came into the meeting he was 50/50. He feels the
applicant has not given them a straight answer about putting a wall where the gate is located. If
the applicant had shown good faith in putting up a wall and locking in to nine homes, but he
hasn't given the Commission a good answer. He would not have a problem if the project was
locked in at nine homes and feels 18 cars would not make or break the safety issue of the whole
neighborhood. He agrees that there are school problems, but they cannot deprive a land owner
from developing their properry. He has issues with the drainage, and feels a wall should be built
between the adjacent neighbor. With no intention of buiiding a wall or driveway, he cannot
support the project.
Chairman Buffa stated she is surprised at the direction that this has taken. In July, there was no
concern expressed on the part of staff about the traffic safety issue, it has come late in the
process. She does not agree with the logic presented in the staff report. Of all the arguments
made today, the only thing that has merit, from a traffic safety standpoint, is the sightline issue
down Grand Avenue. It seems to be mitigated by putting up 3-way stop signs. If it is a controlled
intersection, the only people who could potentially cause an accident would be speeders or
people who run a stop sign and that is true in any neighborhood. Everybody is impacted by the
high school, but there is nothing anyone can do about that. They do not soive those probiems,
but do not exacerbate them either, so the impacts the neighbors feel from the school are a wash
in her consideration of this project. The project proposal is to make the zoning consistent with
the General Plan. She thinks the developer has done a good job of finding a product type that is
appropriate to the neighborhood. She was originally concerned about having 2 houses where
there should only be one, but now they will only have one house and will be consistent with the
General Plan and will not need an amendment. Balancing the fact that the neighbors are
dissatisfied and do not want change and the City's need for more affordable housing, she thinks
it will be safe as Iong as people abide by the law. She thinks it is a perfectiy good use of this
property and the project shouid go forward.
Commissioner Eastman agrees wholeheartedly with Chairman Buffa. The General Plan calls out
for this to be more dense housing than what is proposed. If this is a less dense project, she is for
it. Testimony shows concern about traffic that is already created by density that is around them.
This is a better use of the land and more consistent with the overall good for the City and her
only concem is that nobody travels from this project through the Mobile Home Park. She wouid
totally support this and would like to see a solid wall across there and it would probabiy give the
applicant another couple of parking spaces. As for the parking, she does not know a~y
neighborhood in the City that is not impacted by the fact that people do not use their garages for
what they are intended. There is no place to park on any of their streets. With that, she is in
support of the project.
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Mr. Ward stated if it takes a wall at the gate to the easement, they will go ahead and try to get it
done. They are willing to build the wall where the gate that goes north and south is located.
They promise to arrange that with Mrs. Tran. It is the gate in the northeast corner.
Commissioner Karaki asked if a wall wili be put between the Mobile Home Park and single family
homes.
Mr. Ward said they are raising the existing wall height to seven feet, but if the Ciry limit is 8 feet
high, they will go to 8 feet.
David See, Senior Planner stated where the applicant agrees to build the block wall is an
important clarification for staff. There are two gates, one is where it separates the new
development from the Tran property and fhe other is from the Tran property to the Mobile Home
Park. He wants clarity on which gate they are talking about.
Mr. Ward stated the purpose is to open up the entire parcel to a public street. If they put the gate
in line and block off street access to Lindacita Lane, they have not served the purpose. They will
build the wall and fill the gate to the easement which is the little one in the north corner of the
site.
Commissioner Eastman stated they cannot control what happens between Mrs. Tran and the
Mobile Home Park, they only have control over fencing built around the property. She has no
probiem if they were able to close off Mrs. Tran's Iegal easement, but they cannot control that.
They can control what is between this developme~t and Mrs. Tran's property and she wants to
see a solid wall until or unless they came to an agreement on the other. It would be an either or
thing, but totally up to Mr. Ward to achieve. If that is not acceptable, she does not support it.
Mr. Ward stated if you are going to unlandlock a piece of land and put a block wall over the
passage to get to the public street, it is not unlocking the land.
Commissioner Eastman stated, he is for a portion.
Mr. Ward said that is the probiem and what people do not understand is you need to get the
whole parcel unlandlocked.
Chairman Buffa recommended that staff come up with language for a condition of approval on
the parcei map that says something to the effect that prior to recordation of the map, access from
this parcel shall be controlled so that it cannot enter the Cherokee Mobile Home Estates. That
there is a block wall that separates this property from the Cherokee Mobile Home Estates.
Commissioner Velasquez stated the developer did not state this would be affordable housing.
Chairman Buffa stated these are not intended to be affordable housing under the City's
affordable housing guidelines. Her assumption is that it is a smaller home on a smalier lot,
making them more favorably priced. They are market rate homes and not regulated by
Affordable Housing law.
Commissioner Velasquez stated Chairman Buffa's instructions are for approval but they need to
take a vote.
Commissioner Karaki stated he was confused about the gate issue. He is concerned about the
first gate between the two properties a~d is concerned about future development coming back
and adding more homes with access through this site. He is not concerned about the gate
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between the Tran property and the mobile home park. He is concerned about the neighbors. He
approves the project as it is proposed so nothing is added to the property in the future.
Chairman Buffa stated the Commission has all the information they need and Commissioner
Velasquez's point is a good one. These may be moot points if the project does not have majority
support.
Commissioner Velasquez offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Faessel to approve the
CEQA Negative Declaration. Motion passed with 7 ayes votes.
Commissioner Velasquez offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Agarwal to accept the
applicanYs request for withdrawal of the General Plan Amendment 2007-00460. Motion passed
with 7 ayes votes.
Commissioner Velasquez offered a resolution to deny Reclassification 2006-00190.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced the resolution for denial passed with 4 yes votes,
Commissioners Eastman, Karaki and Buffa voted no.
Commissioner Velasquez offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Faessel to deny the
waiver of improvement of a private street and accept the applicanYs request to withdraw the
waiver of minimum lot area.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced motion for denial passed with 4 aye votes.
Commissioners Buffa, Eastman and Karaki voted no.
Commissioner Velasquez offered a resolution to deny Conditional Use Permit 2006-05175.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced the resolution for denial passed with 4 yes votes,
Commissioners Eastman, Karaki and Buffa voted no.
Commissioner Velasquez offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Faessel to deny
Tentative Tract Map 17139.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced motion for denial passed with 4 aye votes.
Commissioners Buffa, Eastman and Karaki voted no.
Mark Gordon Assistant City Attorney clarified for the record that the motion for denial of Tentative
Tract Map No. 17139 passed with 4 votes in the affirmative, with Chairman Buffa,
Commissioners Eastma~ and Karaki voting in opposition.
Chairman Buffa stated that is correct.
OPPOSITION: 15 people spoke in opposition
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Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney, presented the 10-day appeal rights for Tentative
Tract Map ending at 5:00 p.m. on Thursday, October 25, 2007 and 22-day appeal rights
for the remaining items ending at 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday, November 6, 2007.
DISCUSSION TIME: 57 minutes (2:36-4:30)
A 5 minute break was taken (4:30-4:35)
('Following this Item, Item No. 2 was heard)
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4a. CEQA MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION Karaki/Faessel Approved
4b. GENERAL'PLAM AMENDMENT NO. 2007-00457 Karaki RecommendedCity
Council Approval
4C. RECLASSIFICATION NO. 2007-00202 Karaki Granted
4d. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT Karaki/Faessel Approved
4e. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2007-05216 xaraki Granted
Owner: Ellas Properties 1NC
5395 East La Palma Avenue
Anaheim, CA 92807 ~~
Modified Condition No. 3
Agent: Joseph Marca
Caliber Motors Added two conditions oF
5395 East La Palma Avenue approval
Anaheim, CA 92807
Location: Property is approximately 1.85-acre, located on the south vo'rE oN CEQA: 7-0
side of the Riverside Freeway (SR-91) right-of-way with a
frontage of 682 feet along the Riverside Freeway, north of VOTE ON GPA, xCL,
Santa Ana Canyon Road, west of Solomon Drive and W~RS "4~n
CUP: 5-2
1,357 feet east of the centerline of Via Cortez. Commissioners Eastman
and Romero voted no
General Plan Amendment No. 2007-00457 - Request to designate
property to the General Commercial land use designation.
Conditional Use Permit No. 2007-05216 - Request to perrnit an
outdoor automobile storage and display area in conjunction with an
adjacent automobile sales dealership with waiver of landscape setback
adjacent to a freeway.
Reclassification No. 2007-00202 - Request reclassification of the
subject property to the GG(SC) (General Commercial, Scenic Corridor
Overiay) zone.
General Plan Amendment Resolution No. PC2007-120
ReclassifiCation Resolution No. PC2007-121
Conditional Use Permit Resolution No. PC2007-122 Pro~ectPianner:
(skoehmQanaheim.net)
Scott Koehm, Associate Planner introduced the staff report.
Chairman Buffa opened the public hearing.
Joseph Marca, 240 N. Market Place, Escondido, CA, project architect. He stated if this project
is approved, Anaheim Hills Mercedes Benz will be able to operate under that lease with
Caltrans for an indeterminate amount of time. The amount of development that is proposed is
consistent with their goals to add low cost additional inventory and display to make the property
attractive from the freeway. They concur with staff that the Iight levels will be maintained at an
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acceptable level to adjacent property owners. They have reduced the light levels from what
had been previously proposed.
Chairman Buffa asked if they had a permit for the big banner that is on site.
Mr. Marca could not answer that question. They have made great efforts to make sure
management understands banners and balloons are prohibited.
Chairman Buffa advised the banner advertes a tent sale and she does not want to see a tent
without a permit.
Commissioner Faessel asked if they had any plans to cover the channel on the north side of
the residential property.
Mr. Marca stated no. The map shows the lease tine is on the north, freeway side of the
channel so Anaheim Hills Mercedes Benz is not leasing that portion of the channel. It remains
in control of Caltans.
Commissioner Velasquez asked when the cars will be delivered and what are the hours of
operation.
Mr. Marca stated it is conditioned to have no delivery trucks on its site at all. All delivery of
cars by large transport trucks will be done at the facility on La Palma Avenue and cars will be
individually driven to be stored on this property. They are conditioned from 7 a.m. until 9 p.m.
Commissioner Velasquez suggested weekend hours be at 9 a.m.
Mr. Marca stated these cars are very quiet and the freeway noise would mask any sound from
a moving car that would be moved in or out of a parking stall. There is no cleaning or working
on cars on that property.
Commissioner Faessel asked if this storage lot is open to the public. Can people walk onto the
lot to see cars?
Mr. Marca stated there is no intention of that. There will be display along the freeway for
visibility. Cars wiil be picked up by lot porters and brought up to the front. It is not a sales lot.
Customers will wait in the waiting area and cars will be brought to them.
Commissioner Agarwal stated on Page 3, under Issues, line 5 talks about the lights will be on a
timer to shut off at 8:30 p.m. He asked if they will be dimmed or shut off completely.
Mr. Koehm stated the lights are shut off along the south property line on the existing dealership
parcel at 8:30 p.m.
Chairman Buffa stated it is only that one raw of lights.
Commissioner Agarwal stated he visited the lot yesterday. He has observed on three separate
occasions in the last week, the lights were not shut off. They were on at 11:30 p.m. Saturday
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and Sunday night and were still on that morning at 5:30 a.m. He asked what alternative
methods they have if the lighting is not acceptable to staff.
Mr. Marca stated the standard methods are shielding as one, or having them on or off as the
other. The main site was conditioned to have them off at 8:30 p.m. On this site the closest
light to a home is 80 feet and the farthest is 140 feet. There are zero candles of light on the
property line and they are putting in a bank of trees, 20 feet on center between the nearest and
farthest light. The trees are ~ondon Plane trees that can grow as tall as 60 feet. They also
agreed with staff to do additional shielding or landscaping to block the light from homeowners.
Paul Egger, 5937 East Camino Manzano, pointed out his home on the aerial. Stated he sat in
on the preliminary meeting. Stated he took offense to the comment made by Commissioner
Romero insinuating that because the residents on Camino Manzano are located along the
freeway, they should be afforded any less consideration. He made it sound like a joke and it is
not a joke to them. The have been incrementally beaten down by this project and he is not
sure where it will end. The major issue is the lighting. The currentjob shows a poorjob is
being done on the two story homes, the light is hitting thern. If no one is going to be walking
the lot, they do not need as much light. He feels it is commendable that they want to remove
some lighting form the south side. There are inconsistencies in the light standards information
that they sent, some say 250 watts and others are 400 watts. The light is pouring out from the
main dealership and if they cannot mitigate it there, how can they do it at this location? The
light will fill his yard and reflect upon his house. Also, part of their approval on the previous
section was that none of the auto transports were to be used, but the plan he has shows an
auto transport unloading and turn-around area. So they are obviously planning on bringing in
auto transports. He hopes someone stands up and checks that these people stick to what they
say they are going to do.
Claire Egger, 5937 Camino Manzano. As a US history teacher, it upsets her that the Mercedes
flag is flown right besides the US flag. She is worried about a parking lot in her backyard and
how it affects her community. She questions if she would have purchased this home in 2001, if
she would have known her backyard would tum into a parking lot. Her main concern is the
light because she goes to bed early. She's noticed the lights on at 5 a.m. and asks who can
check the timing on the lights.
Chairman Buffa closed the public hearing and thanked the Eggers for bringing things to the
Commission's attention that they did not know. She advised there are things that bother the
Commission about the way the dealership is being operated.
Mr. Marca stated the main interest is the storage lot and the lighting is of secondary interest
and they would be willing to further mitigate by considerably lowering the light level in the
middle row of lamps. Theyjust need a level of security lighting. They understand the concerns
of the neighbors and operationally they cannot guarantee that everybody does everything that
is written in the staff report and conditions of approval, although it is their intention to do that.
They could remove one or two heads off of each of the poles in the middle row to reduce the
light. Scott can vouch for the fact that they did remove an entire row of lighting along the
channel and they are willing to do more on the interior light poles. They need a 2-5 foot candle
range to maintain security lighting. He asked that the neighbors who spoke, go through
planning staff to take additional steps to make sure their homes are not affected by tighting.
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Chairman Buffa asked Mr. Egger to show the Commission the plan he has showing the auto
transport drop off because their plans do not show that.
Mr. Marca stated at one time, way back, they did show that on the site plan. The Anaheim Hilis
project is conditioned for no transports regardiess of what the plans show.
Mr. Egger added that the majority of houses on Camino Manzano are elevated which means
their angle of view is not what is depicted on the plan. They will have a nice view of the lot. He
just wants to make sure the depictio~s are accurate.
Commissioner Aganval asked if there are provisions to make the light poles look more
attractive. Could they have a palm tree with lighting underneath so the neighbors aren't staring
into a light pole.
Mr. Marca said anything could be possible, but the neighbors have layers of landscaping from
their bedroom windows. They have put a new layer of screening between their homes and the
light standards. Middie light standards are by themselves and may give them some additional
relief. As far as the accuracy of the drawings Mr. Egger mentioned, with the help of staff, the
general grade differential between the homes and site is 6-7 feet. It may be slightly different
than the gentleman's one way or another.
Commissioner Agarwal suggested putting the palm tree right next to the light pole, then have
more palm trees in the center lane.
Mr. Marca stated he would be happy to study that
Chairman Buffa asked if there is a reason to have the light standards 18 feet tall and if the
middle row could be shortened.
Mr. Marca explained lowering light standards focuses the light in a much more limited area with
hotter spots. For general lighting, it is better to have them up at a reasonable height, 18 feet is
relatively low for automobile lighting. He feels the neighbors wouid be best served by reducing
the number of light heads that would reduce the number of shields required and the light level
would be halved.
Commissioner Karaki stated bottom line is the lighting. He suggested making lights 14 feet tall
with 36 inch box trees with more mature trees. Downsizing the number of lights would also be
helpful.
Mr. Marca stated they would be happy to provide 36 inch box trees and reduce lighting in the
middle row to 14 feet high.
Commissioner Faessel asked if they really needed the second row of lights at all because in
the evening there is consistent light on the west parcel. If this is only a secondary lot, do they
need that much additionai light afforded by the second row of fi~ctures. He is very concerned
along with the rest of the Commission and neighbors about the lighting issue.
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Mr. Marca stated they do need some in the middle row. They could provide two that orient
towards the freeway and get rid of two that face towards the residents.
Commissioner Faessel noted they have been reduced in size from 400 to 250, but as they
progress east, it becomes narrower and forces the last 3 fixtures closer to the property owners.
He would rather see the lights consiste~t away from the property, rather than getting closer.
By proposing the fixtures at 40 feet center alongside the freeway right-of-way, it is giving
tremendous amount of light on the nine pads.
Commissioner Karaki advised Commissioner Faessel that security cameras do not work in a
dark space. The lot will be subject to vandalism. He suggests lowering the light standards to
14 feet high, raise the trees and have 1 head on the ones closer to the residents. It is to the
benefit of the residents and applicant to have security Iights.
Commissioner Velasquez suggested a security guard if they are concerned about security.
Commissioner Karaki stated they need to be fair and if the applicant agrees to lower lights,
raise the trees and minimize the number of heads, they can achieve what they want. It can be
monitored from now on also.
Commissioner Velasquez stated it is important for the applicant to understand that the
conditions of approval are not suggestions. They have failed to comply with some of the most
important conditions of approval on the previous approval. One is the lights going off at 8:30
p.m.
Chairman Buffa stated compliance with the Conditional Use Permit is a great issue and right
now there is no compliance. She reminded them of the flag.
Commissioner Velasquez advised several neighbors were opposed to the project but
Commission chose to approve it based on the fact that the lights were going to be off at 8:30
p.m. and now they have a banner. She asked to have the General Manager address the
issues. There is an issue with the banner and flags; maybe staff needs to add a condition to
include inspections of the property.
Chairman Buffa agreed with Commissioner Velasquez that they may need to add a condition
for periodic inspections by staff, paid for by the applicant.
Commissioner Eastman added it is insulting to the Commission to have a new request before
them when they have a user who has failed to pay attention to the conditions of previous
approvals. She does not drive by there but trusts her colleagues who do, and testify that the
lights are on when they are not supposed to be. She feels it is insulting to her and the time she
gives as a volunteer to make good decisions for the City, that they would come back and ask
for approval on a new portion of a project when they have not shown good faith in complying in
the past. She stated she would support this, but not until she sees some of the other
compliances are met. She is out of patience.
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Mr. Marca stated he does not know anything about their banners or sales. They are Code
Enforcement opportunities for the City and they should not have to do that. He knows Mr.
Zandy has been angry in his discussion about what they have done out there. As for the
lighting, the agreement had been worked out with the neighbors and they turned off a lot of the
lights. Mr. Zandy told him that they agreed that the lights along the perimeter were not to be
turned off completely at 8 o'clock, they were to be reduced by 40-60%. He does not have the
information in front of him, it is a complex agreement where Anaheim Hills Mercedes Benz has
made every effort to try to be a good neighbor to have the lights on timers. If he drove by and
saw it bright, he might say all lights were on too. Or if he were a code enforcement person with
the conditions of approval in hand, and he went there and it was not done, he wuld stand and
testify before the Commission that that was the case. He cannot say they have done the
incorrect thing. He has been asked to lower the light level and he is willing to do that by
lowering the light to 14 feet high with 36 inch box trees, take out half of the lights and condition
the center row to be reduced by half a light level at 8 o'ciock at night. He is happy to work with
staff and maybe the photometrics can be brought back as a consent item until it meets
everyone's satisfaction.
Chairman Buffa stated what he has enumerated is what the Commission wants and adding a
condition for periodic inspections is good because there is a compliance problem. She asked
staff to correct residential boundary language in Condition 3, because there is no residential
boundary.
Commissioner Romero stated the applicant has failed to show good faith and it seems like the
Commission is enabling them by continuing to approve projects for them, based on the fact
that they are going tp do something.
Commissioner Karaki stated he is going to give them the benefit of the doubt, they exist there
and they will work together until they solve the issue.
Commissioner Karaki offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Faessel to approve the
CEQA Mitigated Negative Dedaration. Motion passed with 7 ayes votes.
Commissioner Karaki offered a resolution to recommend the City Council approve General
Plan Amendment 2007-00457.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced the resolution passed with 5 yes votes,
Commissioners Eastman and Romero voted no.
Commissioner Karaki proposed to approve a resolution to approve Reclassification No. 2007-
00202.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced the resolution passed with 5 yes votes,
Commissioners Eastman and Romero voted no.
Commissioner Karaki offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Faessel to approve the
reduction of landscape setback adjacent to the freeway right-of-way. Motion passed with 5
ayes votes. Commissioners Eastman and Romero opposed.
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Commissioner Karaki offered a resolution to approve Conditional Use Permit No. 2007-05216
with the modifications that applicant shall reduce the height of middle-row area lights from 18 to
14 feet; that the landscape trees along the adjacent property to the south will be 36 inch
mature box trees, minimum height of 15 feet; and reduce the number of heads in the middle-
row of area lights adjacent to the neighbors from 3 heads to one head, and reduction of lighting
to comply with previously approved conditions.
Commissioner Agarwal advised they can go lower than 40% because it is a storage lot and no
one will be there after 8:30 p.m.
Commissioner Karaki proposed for appiicant to come back with a photometric light study as a
consent calendar item.
Commissioner Faessel stated he is not convinced that the last two fixtures need to be in there.
Commissioner Karaki added a condition requiring periodic Code Enforcement inspections at
the cost of the applicant to assure they are complying with the conditions.
Commissioner Agarwal advised he would be agreeable to once a quarter.
Mc Gordon asked, so that the record is not confused, is the idea of the applicant returning with
a photometric study in addition to the other restrictions articulated by Commissioner Karaki,
lowering the light standards from 18 feet to 14, 36 inch box trees and the number of light heads
reduced from 3 to 1 in certain areas of the middle light standards. He is not clear which light
standards are proposed to be reduced from 3 to 1.
Commissioner Faessel stated he was not comfortable with the photometric study laying on top
of all the other changes. Once the changes have been made, what good is the photometric
study?
Commissioner Karaki stated they are proposing that to see if it is going to work.
Chairman Buffa stated the Commission cannot condition them to do something then if the
Commission does not like it, they will change their mind. The study is to establish the
percentage of reduction in fight that is supposed to occur at 8:30 p.m. They are searching for
the number that gives them security. She asked which poles will be reduced to one head.
Commissioner Karaki stated the last 3 to the east of the property, closer to the neighbors.
Commissioner Faessel stated he still has a problem with the lighting issue. He is not
convinced about the 2 fixtures that were just pointed out because as the lot Iine becomes
narrower, their placement becomes closer to the neighbors. Maybe the fixtures could be
spaced further apart or one compietely removed. They should be not be closer than the third
fixture to the west.
Mr. Gordon stated before things get too confusing, there is a proposed motion suggesting
amendment by Commissioner Faessel and before there is too much change to the existing
motion, either withdraw the motion and start over or take that motion and take Commissioner
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Faessei's suggestion as an amendment to that motion and take it first
Commissioner Faessel advised he wiN withdraw his comment with the understanding that there
is a photometric study or recommendations made by Commissioner Karaki to remove some of
the heads or lower the standards effectively to not cause more light difficulty for the neighbors.
He feels they could be more certain of that if they completely removed a couple of the
standards, but if Commissioner Karaki feels that removal of the heads is sufficient, he will
remove his comment just to move it forward, although he is not convinced that it will work.
Mr. Koehm because of the intent of the Commission to reduce the light, he pointed out another
one that they had not noticed.
Commissioner Faessel stated that one could be completely eliminated.
Commissioner Karaki rephrased that the light to the easterly side in the landscape area, would
be completely eliminated and the last 3 lights to the east of the site will be minimized to one
head only.
Commissioner Velasquez stated she does not know much about lights, and does not know
how much light will be really reduced by dimming, but it seems the light that is second farthest
from the east is close to homes. No matter how much they dim it, it is still close.
Chairman Buffa stated the other choice is to move it back to the property line or easement
boundary and shine it out.
Commissioner Velasquez agreed, it should shine away from the homes, dimming it seems too
close to the residences.
Chairman Buffa asked if she is amending Commissioner Karaki's resolution or should they
regroup. City Attorney has given good advice to not add too many moving parts.
Mr. Gordon stated under the circumstances Commissioner Karaki could take this amendment
and amend his proposal or Commissioner Velasquez could propose an amendment to the
resolution.
Commissioner Karaki wanted to rephrase what he was trying to say. Completely eliminate the
light in the landscape to the easterly side. The first light is to be completely removed as well,
then move the first light to the easterly side to compensate so it is not dark at the end.
Mc Koehm wanted to darify that Commissioner Karaki wanted the most eastern light and the
next one removed.
Commissioner Karaki stated just to disperse them eve~ly.
Chairman Buffa asked if everyone understood the recommendation and is prepared to vote.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced the resolution passed with 5 yes votes,
Commissioners Eastman and Romero voted no.
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Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney, presented the 22-day appeal rights ending at 5:00 p.m.
on Tuesday, November 6, 2007.
OPPOSITION: 2 people spoke with concerns on lighting.
DISCUSSION TIME: 1 hour (4:46-5:46)
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5a.
5b. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMEPIT NO. 2007-00003
5c. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT
5d. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2006-05146
5e. SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2007-00048
5f. TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP MO, 2007-195
Owner: Kaiser Foundation
393 East Walnut Street
Pasadena. CA 91188
Agent: Duane Luzum
Kaiser Permanente
1707 Barcelona Circle
Placentia, CA 92870
Faessel
Faessel/Eastman
Faessel
Faessel
Faessel
Location: 3400-3450 East La Palma Avenue: Property is
approximately 27 acres, having a frontage of 984 feet on
the south side of La Palma Avenue and is located 225
feet east of the centerline of Miller Street.
Environmental Impact Report No. 2007-00337 - Request for
certification of Environmental Impact Report No. 337, including
adoption of a Statement of Findings of Fact, a Statement of Overriding
Considerations and Mitigation Monitoring Program No. 147 for the
Kaiser Hospita'I project. EIR No. 2007-00337 has been prepared to
serve as the primary environmental document for CUP2006-05146,
SUBTPM2007-195, DAG2007-00003, and SPN2007-00048 and
subsequent actions related to implementation of the project.
Implementation is intended to include, but not be limited to, the
approval of subdivision maps, grading permits, street improvement
plans, final site plans, and other related actions for the Kaiser Hospital
project. Future actions related to the Kaiser Hospital project that
require additional discretionary review will utilize this document for
CEQA purposes to the extent possible, consistent with Section 15162
of the CEQA Guidetines.
Specific Plan Amendment No. 2007-00048 - Amendment No. 4 to
the Northeast Area Specific Plan (SP94-1) to adjust the boundaries of
Development Area 4.
Recommended City
Council Approval
Recommended City
Council Approval
Approved
Grauted
Recommended City
Council Approval
Approved
DAG
Added Condirion Nos.
25, 26 and 27
VOTE: 7-0
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Conditional Use Permit Mo. 2006-05146 - To construct a new 1.2
million square foot Kaiser Hospital campus to include medical office
buildings with building heights in excess of 100 feet, a 360 bed
hospital, central utility plant, and two parking structures with waivers
of (a) minimum landscaped setback abutting La Palma Avenue
(withdrawn), and (b) minimum landscaped setback abutting a freeway
frontage.
Development Agreement No. 2007-00003 - Request to adopt a
Development Agreement betw2en the City of Anaheim and Kaiser
Foundation to construct a hospital campus in three phases.
Tentative Parcel Map No. 2007-195 - To merge 9 parcels into 1
parcel.
Environmental Impact Report Resolution No. PC2007-123
Specific Plan Amendment Resolution No. PC2007-124
Conditional Use Permit Resolution No. PC2007-125
Development Agreement Resolution No. PC2007-126
Tentative Parcel Map Resolution No. PC2007-127
David See, Senior Planner introduced the staff report.
Project P/anner.
(dseeQanaheim.net)
Chairman Buffa asked if the changes to the conditions are Development Agreement
conditions or Conditional Use Permit conditions.
Mr. See stated they are changes to the recitals in the Development Agreement and
conditions.
Chairman Buffa stated for the record, in the email from the neighboring property
owner, he is making the assertion that by granting Kaiser the ability to be included in
the transit core zone, they are being given preferential treatment. She asked staff to
address that.
Mr. See stated the Specific Plan Amendments only pertains to this property to
adjusting the boundaries. It does not affect the Fry's property owner, other than the
higher floor area ratio. It is an indirect effect on that property owner.
Chairman Buffa thinks he is saying he would like to have the benefits that come with
being in the transit core area. Maybe he feels Kaiser is getting special privileges that
are not being afforded to his property. She asked if Kaiser is being granted any
special favors.
Mr. See stated because it is a comprehensive development, master planned campus,
staff feels it is an appropriate change in zone. If the adjacent property owner wants to
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pursue that, staff would consider it, but wouid have to consider if it is appropriate in
thatzone.
Commissioner Romero is not clear as to why they would not change the whole area.
Mr. See answered the La Palma Core Zoning is exclusive to La Palma and is for uses
along La Palma Avenue and the freeway. The permitted uses are appropriate at this
time, west of the subject site. West to Kraemer is in the La Palma Core, which is
appropriate zoning and it is intended to be that way. This property is unique in that it
is more linked to the MetroLinlc station, which is the Transit Core Zo~ing. There is a
link between the properties and there are seven other property owners who have been
in discussion with the City about developing their sites too. Kaiser would be more
linked to these developments to the east and that is why they feel the rezoning is
appropriate,
Commissioner Romero stated in theory they are linked by virtue of being next door.
Mr. See agreed, it is a compatible use to the east and that is where the Transit Core
Zoning is located. He pointed out the different development areas on the map. He
stated it is logical and consistent to e~end the Transit Core to this property line
because the hospital is complementary to the uses there and linked to the train
station.
Commissioner Romero asked if the Fry's owner wants to be included.
Mr. See advised he is a retail use which is consistent with the zoning he is in. If he
moves forward with another development, staff can talk to him about rezoning to
accommodate his use. Currently, the La Palma Core does accommodate a retail use
along the freeway.
Commissioner Romero darified that because he is zoned retail, he is not included in
the Transit Core.
Mr. See explained the Transit Core is an industrial zoning with some uses that are
compatible to the train station.
Commissioner Romero asked if the gentleman understood that.
Mr. See stated he received the email at 2:10 p.m. during the plan review session and
has not had time to respond to the email, but he will talk to him about it this week.
Chairman Buffa stated it is important to mention that someone wili be considered for a
change in zone if they bring in an application on their own merit. Staff is not giving
them speciai privilege, there is a connection to the east that makes sense.
Commissioner Faessel asked what is the General Plan use for the east side of Grove
Street.
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Mr. See advised the General Plan designation is mixed-use which allows residential
up to 60 dwelling units per acre, not unlike the Crossing, which was recently approved
by the Commission. It is similar to that type of development.
Commissioner Faessel understood the west side of Grove is a different land use.
Mr. See stated no.
Commissioner Velasquez stated regarding the email, the owner does not know what it
means to be part of that zone; he just might want to be included. She asked if there is
a plan, how many people can apply and what are the uses. Can there be an overlay
on that zoning.
Mr. See stated there is no plan to extend the boundaries. This is unique, it would be a
case by case basis. There are three reasons for the zone change: one the property is
split in two zones, so it makes sense to have one consistent zoning; the other is iYs
appropriate for the Transit Core; and because it is in close proximity to the train
station. As you get further away into a different zoning, they would be concerned
about the boundary spreading further west. The Fry's property is appropriate in the
zone it is in and it is fair to say they would be concerned about changing the zoning for
his property without a new development.
Chairman Buffa opened the public hearing.
Joe Stasney, 1707 Barcelona Circle, Placentia, Project Director for Kaiser. He used
the site plan to briefly explain the buildings and services that will be provided.
Commissioner Eastman asked him to explain how the first and second parts of the
hospital will be built.
Mr. Stasney stated the first phase will be the Medical Office Building 1 with an
associated surface parking. The next phase will be the hospital, encompassing two
nursing towers, diagnostic and treatment block, and another office building and a
parking structure. The remaining portion is open space. They have a development
agreement proposal with the City for 25 years.
Commissioner Eastman asked if they were going to demolish the entire site and
continue with pieces.
Mr. Stasney stated they will maintain the property around the entire perimeter of the
compiex. Throughout the entire course of the development of the campus, it is
important for them to maintain an image and provide a platform for patients, visitors,
members and staff to interact.
Chairman Buffa stated it appears as though Grove Street, which now terminates in a
cul-de-sac with a normal turn-around, does not do that anymore and it appears the
road ends with landscaping in the cul-de-sac paving. She asked if that is the intent or
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is there landscaping there that should not be there to provide a more typical city street
termination.
Lee Brennan, 1901 Avenue of the Stars, Los Angeles, architect. He stated they are
proposing to move the cul-de-sac slightly over, then landscape the old cul-de-sac.
There is still a standard turn-around.
Commissioner Faessel asked if Mr. Brennan and his staff have been in contact with
the Public Utilities Department, with future plans to incorporate green components into
the project.
Mr. Brennan stated yes. Kaiser prides itself as being one of the leaders in the health
care industry in terms of utilizing green products and construction techniques. Each
one of their projects generates an eco tool kit, which is a national standard for every
single project, whether it is a small infill or a remodel project up to these campuses.
Commissioner Velasquez stated staff has design concerns.
Chairman Buffa advised there is a condition that requires it to come back to the
Planning Commission.
Commissioner Eastman added to her, it looks like a large complex of buildings with
glass and stucco and it did not excite her. it seems there has been usage of some of
the elements that are more permanent than stucco construction. She feels stucco
construction has its own issues as far as upkeep and she would like to see it be an
outstanding example of Anaheim architecture.
Commissioner Faessel stated he sees this as an exciting component in the Canyon
Commercial District and is hopeful it will become a magnet for other high tech firms to
move into the area vacated by the Boeing property.
Commissioner Agarvval asked if there is an expansion built into this, will it go to more
than 260 beds. He also asked if there is a helipad.
Mr. Stasney stated it is the ultimate build-out. 260 beds is the first phase and it will not
increase. There is no helipad.
Mr. Stasney stated there was an early discussion with the Fire Department as to
whether or not they would have a helipad, but they do not transport patients on and off
of the buildings. If there is an emergency condition, they wouid clear the parking lot
and bring in a helicopter. It would not be brought in on top of the buildings.
Commissioner Faessel offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Velasquez, that
they recommend to the City Council that they certify the Environmental Report No.
2007-00337 which includes the adoption of a statement of findings of fact and the
statement of overriding considerations, as well as the Mitigation Monitoring Program
No. 147.
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Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced motion passed with 7 ayes votes.
Commissioner Faessel offered a resolution to recommend the City Council approve
Development Agreement No. 2007-00003.
Mr. See read changes into the record. In the Development Agreement attached to the
staff report staff recommends adding to page 15:
"Subsection B, owners shall have obtained the first building permit for the project prior
to the fifth anniversary of the Development Agreement date. If owner has not timely
obtained the first building permit for the project, the term of this Development
Agreement shall be for a period of eight years, terminating at the end of the eighth
anniversary of the Development Agreement date. Subject to the periodic review and
modification or termination provisions defined in Section 24 and 26 of the
Development Agreement." Applicant is in agreement with this provision, it ensures a
building permit is pulled in a timely manner and in-lieu $2 million fee is made, rather
than a 25 year period.
Subsection C of 9.2: "Notwithstanding any provision of this agreement, except
Subsections 9.2a and 9.2b above, City and owner expressly agreed that there is no
requirement that owner initiate or complete development of the project, or any
particular phase of the project within any particular period of time, and City shall not
impose such a requirement on any project approval. The parties acknowledge that
the owner, cannot at this time, predict when or the rate at which, or the order in which
phases will be developed. Such decision depends upon numerous factors which are
not in control of the owner such as changes in health care, delivery requirements,
member needs, market orientation and demand, interest rates, competition, and other
factors."
In addition, staff recommends a change to section 12.2.3 which indicates purchase
electrical power. Staff wishes to strike that section and replace it with: "It is the
owners intent to purchase its electrical power requirements from the City.
Requirements for purchase of electric power or other agencies are subject to the
City's Public Utilities Department Electric Rates, Rules and Regulations."
Commissioner Faessel asked how that is different from what was originally offered.
Mr. See stated Community Development and Utilities Department felt revised wording
leaves some flexibility to be incompliance with Federal and State law. It encourages
applicant to purchase the City's electrical power.
Lastly, three conditions need to be added.
One, on page 48 of the Development Agreement. Add conditions 25, 26, 27 and
change subsequent numbers.
Condition 25, "Priar to issuance of the first building permit, the owner shall obtai~ a
right-of-way construction permit from the Public Works Development Services to
widen and replace curb gutter landscaping and irrigation and sidewalks on those
requisite portions of La Palma Avenue and shall be maintained by the owner. A bond
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shall be posted in the amount approved by the City Engineer and form approved by
the City Attorney prior to the issuance of the first building permit. The improvements
shall be installed prior to final zoning and building inspections."
Condition 26 "Bonds required for tra~c related improvements shall be posted in the
amounts required and in accordance with Public Works requirements and the
Subdivision Map Act except the timing of these bonds for traffic related improvements
where the permit is issued by outside agencies, such as Caltrans, may be differed in
light of the extended period of time before such improvements are required to be
installed, subject to approval of the City's Traffic and Transportation Manager."
Condition 27: "Prior to final parcel map approval, the existing 48-foot wide utility and
access easement adjacent to the 91 freeway shall be abandoned."
Commissioner Faessel offered a resolution to recommend the City Council approve
Development Agreement No. 2007-00003 with all of the changes and modifications as
deli~eated by Mr. David See.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced the resolution passed with 7 yes votes.
Commissioner Faessel offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Eastman to
approve the waiver of landscape setback adjacent to the 91 Freeway and accept the
applicanYs request to withdraw the landscape setback waiver on La Palma Avenue.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced the motion passed with 7 ayes votes.
Commissioner Faessel offered a resolution to approve Conditional Use Permit 2006-
05146.
Mr. See confirmed there are no other changes to it.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced resolution passed with 7 yes votes.
Commissioner Faessel offered a resolution to approve Specific Plan Arnendment No.
2007-00048.
Mr. See confirmed there are no other changes to it.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced resolution passed with 7 yes votes.
Commissioner Faessel offered a resolution to approve Tentative Parcel Map. No.
2007-195.
Mr. See confirmed there are no other cha~ges to it.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced resolution passed with 7 yes votes.
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Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney, presented the 10-day appeal rights for
Tentative Parcel Map ending at 5:00 p.m. an Thursday, October 25, 2007 and 22-day
appeal rights for the remaining items ending at 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday, November 6,
2007
OPPOSITION: An email was received prior to the meeting in opposition to the request.
DISCUSSION TIME: 43 minutes (5:47-6:30)
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6a. CEQA CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION - CLASS 21
6b. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 3277
(TRACKIMG NO. CUP NO. 2007-05251)
Owner: Barry Lee Konier
P.O. Box 2158
Orange, CA 92859
Agent: City of Anaheim
200 South Anaheim Boulevard
Anaheim, CA 92805
Location: 950-970 Tustin Avenue: Property is an irregularly-
shaped 2.82-acre property having frontages of 460
feet on the east side of Tustin Avenue and 665 feet
on the south side of the Riverside Freeway (SR-91).
City request to initiate the revocation or modification of
Conditional Use Permit No. 3277 to permit office uses in an
industrial building with waiver of minimum distance between
freestanding signs.
Conditional Use Permit Resolution No.
OPPOSITION: None
DISCUSSION TIME: This item was not discussed.
Continued to
December 10, 2007
Motion: Eastman/Agarwal
VOTE: 7-0
Project Planner.
(kwong2Qanaheim. net)
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Mr. Gordon added that on the item concerning the Anaheim Hills Mercedes Benz dealership,
he wanted to respond to a comment made by Commissioner Eastman. They do impose
conditions of approval when they approve Conditional Use Permits. As Commissioner
Velasquez suggested, these are not suggestions but are requirements for approval. He
suggests that if staff determines that an applicant is not complying with conditions of approval
under the procedures of the Zoning code 18.60.110, it is the prerogative of this Commission
to initiate a process to modify or terminate a Gonditional Use Permit if the applicant is not
complying with it. In this particular instance, it was a new request and it does rise and fall on
its own, certainly there were conditions that were suggested to mitigate a potentiai impact of
this use. If it was the feeling of one or more of Planning Commissioners that the conditions
do not go far enough, or that they cannot be mitigated and will have an adverse affect on the
adjoining land use, it is proper grounds for opposition or disapproval of the Conditional Use
Permit. He thinks with respect to a Conditional Use Permit that has been previously
approved, certainfy commenting on the applicant's compliance, they should look at it in its
own terms. If the applicant is not complying with the previously issued Conditional Use
Permit, certainly it is the prerogative of the Planning Commission to initiate an action to
change or terminate that permit if appropriate under the circumstances.
Chairman BufFa advised he may have planted a thought with the Commissioners who have
been frustrated at the lack of compliance on the part of Anaheim Hills Mercedes Benz. They
can all think about it and at the next preliminary plan review, see if anyone wants to agendize
an item to modify their Conditional Use Permit.
Commissioner Agarwal suggested getting Code Enforcement out there to see if they are
complying.
Chairman Buffa asked Dave to check on the banner that'is on the property at this time.
Mr. Gordon advised that there was testimony here today pertaining to the lighting and if the
applicant is not complying, it could be addressed by Code Enforcement. If it is not
satisfactory, the Planning Commission could take action to impose additional requirements to
modify existing conditions to address concerns, or terminate the use permit.
Chairman Buffa stated another issue brought up in testimony, is that they are still flying the
American flag the same as the others and their flag should be flown differently and maybe
Code Enforcement can look at that too. The American flag should be higher and the
Commission has spoken to them about that in prior hearings and they have not made the
change.
Mr. See asked if they are talking about the American flag and corporate flags.
Chairman Buffa stated they have American, State and corporate flags. The American flag
should be flown higher. It is not, and they have been spoken to about it before.
Commissioner Romero stated they also have not moved the logo sign on the side of the
building. They work on their own agenda and do whatever they want.
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Commissioner Agarwal stated for the record, he is very supportive of the remarks by
Commissioner Eastman that it is very insulting that there is a blatant violation of the
Conditional Use Permit.
Commissioner Eastman hopes that the two no votes today will get their attention. It is good
to know that Mr. Gordon told them they can take it to the next level and have another option.
Mr. Gordon stated Item 6 from today's agenda that has been continued concerns that very
issue, compliance with conditions of approvai. It has been set for consideration or
modification of the Conditional Use Permit.
Commissioner Romero stated they did nof discuss it at the preliminary plan review, but Item
6 states revoking or modification and asked if that is their choice.
Mr. Gordon, stated it is agendized and he is not sure, he did not read the staff report. He
understands it has been set for some consideration of some non-compliance issues, and
under the provisions of the Zoning code, it allows for the Pianning staff to imitate, at a duly
noticed public hearing, consideration of modifications or termination of a use permit if the
applicant is not complying with the conditions of approval.
Commissioner Karaki added a comment to Mr. Gordon's comment about revoking the
Conditional Use Permit. He'd like to see Code Enforcement go first when they approve a
project and if they do not comply, then come back.
Commissioner Eastman disagreed with Commissioner Karaki in the fact that the only time
people come out to let the Commission know what is going on, is if they run into them in a
neighborhood when they are looking at a project or they get public noticed and it directly
affects them. She took the stand and did what she did today because of the testimony from
the Gommissioners who live in the area and the neighbor who came up today. It indicates
there is a serious problem with them complying.
Commissioner Karaki stated he expected more neighbors today.
Commissioner Eastman stated people get to the point where they feel no one is listening to
them and they do not think they can fight a big business.
Commissioner Faessel thanked Commissioner Romero for nominating him to the
Chairmanship of the Undergraunding Sub-Committee of the Pla~ning Commission and
Public Utilities Board.
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flIIEETIMG ADJOURNED AT 6:40 P.M.
TO MONDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2007 AT 1:30 P.M.
FOR PRELIMIMARY PLAN REVIEW.
RespectFully submitted:
~~(~J~C.~J-~Q ~~'~'c~'v
Simonne Fannin
P/T Senior Office Specialist
Received and approved by the Planning Commission on b Lt Z~ , 2007.
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