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Minutes
Nlondav, October 13, 2008
Council Chamber, City Hall
200 South Anaheim Boulevard
Anaheim, California
Commissioners Present:
Commissioners Abse~t:
Staff Present:
Ted White, Senior Planner
Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney
Scott Koehm, Associate Planner
Kim Wong, Planner
Diane Bathgate, Contract Planner
Chairman: Joseph Karaki
Gail Eastman, Stephen Faessel
Victoria Ramirez, Panky Romero
Peter Agarwal, Kelly Buffa
Raul Garcia, Principal Civil Engineer
David Kennedy, Associate Transportation Planner
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary
Donna Patino, Secretary
Agenda Posting: A complete copy of the Planning Commission Agenda was posted at 10:00 a.m.
on Wednesday, October 13, 2008, inside the display case located in the foyer of the Council
Chamber, and also in the outside display kiosk.
Published: Anaheim Bulletin Newspaper on Thursday, October 2, 2008
e Call to Order
o Preliminary Plan Review 1:30 P.IVI.
• STAFF UPDATE TO COMMISSION ON VARIOUS CITY DEVELOPMENTS
AND ISSUES (AS REQUESTED BY PLANNING COMMISSION)
• PRELIMINARY PLAN REVIEW FOR ITEMS ON THE OCTOBER 13, 2008 AGENDA
• Recess to Public Hearing
. Reconvene to Public Hearing 2:30 P.M.
Attendance: 18
e Pledge of Allegiance: Commissioner Ramirez
• Public Comments
. Consent Calendar
• Public Hearing Items
o Adjournment
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Anaheim Planning Commission Agenda - 2:30 P.M.
Public Comments: None
Consent Calendar:
Commissioner Faessel offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Romero and MOTION
CARRIED, for approval of Consent Calendar ttem 1A and to continue Item 5 as recommended by
staff. UNANIMOUSLY APPROV~D
Due to technical di~culties, Items 1 through 6 of the Planning Commissio~ meefing
were not recorded. The following is a summary based on staff s recollections and
notes for those items. Ifem 7 and 8 were recorded and minutes were prepared based
on fhe recordings.
Minutes
ITEM 1A
Receiving and approving the Minutes from the Planning
Commission Meeting of September 29, 2008.
NOTE: Meeting minutes have been provided to the Planning
Commission and are available for review at the
Planning Department.
Consent Calendar Approval
VOTE: 5-0
Commissioners Agarwal and
Buffa absent
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Public Hearina Items:
ITEM NO. 2 Approved
CEQA CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION CLASS 3 AND
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT MO. 2008-05340 Resolution tdo. PC2008-97
(Eastman)
Owner: Enayatollah Hassanzada
35 Argusto
Irvine, CA 92606 VOTE: 5-0
Commissioners Agarwal and
Applicant: Shiv Talwar Buffa absent
Design Concepts
4091 Riverside Drive, Suite 110
Chino, CA 91710
Hitesh Patel
13372 Newport Avenue, Suite B
Tustin, CA 92780
Location: 1311 South Anaheim Boulevard: This
property is approximately .34-acres, having a
frontage of 75 fest on the west side of Anaheim
Boulevard and approximately 675 feet south of
the centerline of Ball Road.
Request to convert four apartment units into a one-unit medical Project Planner:
office building. Diane Bathgate
dbathqate(a~anaheim. net
Diane Bathgate, Contract Pianner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Karaki ope~ed the public meeting.
Shiv Talwar, project architect, 4091 Riverside Drive, Suite 110, Chino, 91710, indicated that he had
reviewed and agreed to the conditions of approval and that he was available to answer any
questions.
Hiro Yasuda, 2888 N. Wyngate Road, stated that he is not against the project but was concerned with
the traffic congestion at the driveway off of Anaheim Boulevard that is'located between the shopping
center and the proposed medical office property. He requested that the traffic problems at the
intersection be addressed. He specifically pointed out that left turns to northbound Anaheim
Boulevard are dangerous during afternoon peak traffic hours and inquired whether a traffic signal
would be appropriate at this location.
Commissioner Eastman asked the Public Works staff to confirm whether this was a public or private
vehicular accessway and respond to the applicants concerns.
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David Kennedy, Associate Transportation Planner, confirmed that this driveway was a private
vehicular accessway and stated that it would be up to the property owner to request a traffic signal at
that location. Upon request, a traffic signal warrant analysis would be conducted to determine
whether a signal would be necessary at this location. He also noted that A~aheim Boulevard is
designated as a 6-lane primary arterial and raised median from Ball Road to Winston is planned to be
installed in the future. The future median would prohibit left turns out of this driveway. Based on the
traffic volumes and proximity to nearby signals, Mr. Kennedy did not believe that a signal would be
warranted at this location. He indicated that Traffic Engineering staff would inspect the site and
determine if there was a need for directional sign and possibly the prohibition of left turns to
northbound Anaheim Boulevard, and report back to the Commission.
Dr. Hitesh Patel, business owner, 13372 Newport Avenue Suite B, Tustin, stated that he has two
similar clinics in Santa Ana and Costa Mesa. He indicated that most of his patients use public
transportation or walk to the center and would not be driving to this facility. He indicated that he does
foresee a parking problem or added congestion due to this use.
Maricela Alvarez, property owner, 1003 S. Hilda Street, Anaheim, stated that she owns a complex
near this project and that she shared concerns regarding the parking and congestion of the driveway
between the market and the proposed medical office. She also mentioned that there were many
patients with mental disabilities that live in the immediate vicinity and there are Code Enforcement
issues with the surroundi~g properties. She was not opposed to this project but was concerned that it
might cause more congestion.
Chairman Karaki asked if there was anyone further who would like to speak to this item; seeing none,
he closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Faessel commented that this parcel needed attention and would benefit from the
improvements proposed by the applicant. He also confirmed that the roof equipment wili be screened
by a parapet structure.
Commissioner Eastman requested that Code Enforcement staff take a look at the group homes in the
vicinity and determine if there was any code violations associated with those uses, including over
crowding and parking in alleys.
Commissioner Romero reiterated that he would like Traffic Engineering staff to take a look at whether
there should be a"No left turn signal" placed at the intersection of the driveway and Anaheim
Boulevard. He expressed that he was in favor of the project and believed it may reduce congestion ir
the area.
Commissioner Ramirez agreed that the issues of the neighbors should be looked into by the Code
Enforcement Department. She was in support of the project.
Chairman Karaki indicated support of the project and expressed appreciation to the applicant for
improving the existing building and site.
Ted White, Senior Planner, stated that Code Enforcement along with the Traffic Engineering
Department will look into their concerns and report back to them.
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Commissioner Eastman offered a recommendation that the Planning Commission adopt the attached
resolution to approve the CEQA Categorical Exemption, Class 3 and Conditional Use Permit No:°-
2008-05340.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary, announced that the resolution passed with 5 aye votes
Commissioner's Agarwal and Buffa were absent.
IM GENERAL: 2 persons spoke regarding traffic safety concerns.
Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney, presented the 22-day appeal rights ending at 5:00 p.m. on
Tuesday, November 4, 2008.
DISCUSSION TIME: 33 minutes (2:38 to 3:13)
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ITEM NO. 3
Owner: Lennar Platinum Triangle, LLC
25 Enterprise
Aliso Viejo, CA 92656
Applicant: Donna Kelly Lennar
25 Enterprise
Aliso Viejo, CA 92656
Location: 1404 East Katella Avenue: This property is
approximately 41.4 gross acres, generally
located between Katelia Avenue and Gene Autry
Way, extending from State College ~oulevard to
just west of Betmor Lane. Approximately 7.1
gross acres are located within The Platinum
Triangle, Gene Autry District, and 34.3 gross
acres are within The Platinum Triangle, Katella
District.
Request to amend the Development Agreement to extend the
term by an additional five years. This would provide for the
development of a previously-approved master planned
community with up to 2,681 dwelling units, up to 150,000
square feet of commercial uses, two public parks, public
streets and related infrastructure in four phases over a period
of 25 years.
Ted White, Senior Planner, presenked the staff report.
Chairman Karaki opened the public hearing.
Resolution No. PC2008-98
(Faessel)
Approved, with
recommendations for
enhanced temporary site
screening
Recommended for City
Council Review
VOTE: 5-0
Commissioners Agarwal and
Buffa absent
Project Planner:
Ted White
twhite(a~anaheim. net
Donna Kelly, applicant representing Lennar, 25 Enterprise, Aliso Viejo, CA, 92656, stated that they
are requesting this extension to the Development Agreement at the request of their lenders. She
indicated that they are fully committed to their projects in Anaheim and are excited to develop as soon
as the market conditions will allow them to build a successful product. She indicated that Lennar is
proposing to install a wooden fence with vines and irrigation along the perimeter of their projects
since the project sites will remain vacant for an extended period of time.
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A general discussion between the Commissioners and the applicant occurred relating to the
development market and anticipated timeframes for beginning construction. Ms. Kelly indicated that
she was unable to give any specific i~formation regarding timeframes for the start of construction:
A further discussion between the Commission and applicant occurred regarding the appr"opriate
method and design of site screening. Concerns of the Commission included the site screening
material, fence location, graffiti opportunities, and visibility of the vacant site from new residential
buildings being constructed in the area, and appropriate type and amount of landscaping.
Commissioner Faessel offered a recommendation that the Planning Commission adopt the attached
resolution recommending that the City Council approve an amendment to Development Agreement
No. 2005-0008 to extend the term of the Development Agreement by five years and that the project
site have enhanced perimeter screening.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary, announced that the resolution passed with 5 aye votes.
Commissioner's Agarwal and Buffa were absent.
OPPOSITIOfd: None
Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney, presented the 10 day appeal rights ending at 5:00 p.m. on
Tuesday, October 23, 2008.
DISCUSSION TfIViE: 30 minutes (3:13 to 3:43)
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ITEM NO. 4
Owner: Lennar Platinum Triangle, LLC
25 Enterprise
Aliso Viejo, CA 92656
Applicant: Donna Kelly Lennar
25 Enterprise
Aliso Viejo, CA 92656
Location: 2050 South State Colleqe Boulevard and
2015 - 2125 East Oranqewood Avenue: This
property is approximately 15:6 gross acres,
generally located at the northeast corner of
Orangewood Avenue and State College
Boulevard, with approximately 960 feet of
frontage on the north side of Orangewood
Avenue and 590 feet of frontage on the east
side of State Coliege Boulevard, in The Platinum
Triangle, Gateway District.
Request to amend the Development Agreement to extend the
term by an additional three years~. This would provide for the
development of a previously-approved residential community_
with up to 878 dwelling units, two public parks, public streets
and related infrastructure in three phases over a period of
eighteen years.
* Plote: This item was advertised as a request to extend the
term of the Development Agreement by an additional five
years.
Ted White, Senior Pianner, presented the staff report.
Chairman Karaki opened the pubiic hearing.
Resolution tdo. PC2008-99
(Romero)
Approved, with
recommendations for
enhanced temporary site
screening
Recommended for City
Council Review
VOTE: 5-0
Commissioners Agarwal and
Buffa absent
Project Planner:
Ted White
twhite(a)anaheim. net
Donna Kelly, representing Lennar, 25 Enterprise, Aliso Viejo, CA, 92656 stated that they are
requesting this extension to the Development Agreement for the A-Town Stadium project at the
request of their lenders. Their proposal to add wood fencing with vines and irrigation also appiies to
this site.
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Chairman Karaki asked if there was anyone who would tike to speak to this item; seeing none, he
closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Romero offered a recommendation that the Planning Commission adopt the attached
resolution recommending that City Council approve an Amendment to the Development Agreement
No. 2006-00002 to extend the term of the Development Agreement by three years and that the
project site have enhanced perimeter screening.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary, announced that the resolution passed with 5 aye votes.
Commissioner's Agarwal and Buffa were absent.
OPPOSITION: None
Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney, presented the 10 day appeal rights ending at 5:00 p.m. on
Tuesday, October 23, 2008.
DISCUSSION TIME: 2 minutes {3:43 to 3:45)
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ITEM NO. 5
CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION,
RECLASSIFICATION NO. 2008-00215.
VARIANCE P10. 2008-04749 AMD
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 2006-229
Owner: Amanik, Inc.
603 Seagaze Drive, #759
Oceanside, CA 92054
Applicant: Haliaday & Mim Mack, Inc
1181 California Avenue, Suite 102
Corona, CA 92881
Location: 7260 Canvon Rim Road: This property is
approximately 1.06 acres, having a frontage of
542 feet on the south side of Canyon Rim
Road, approximately 92 feet west of the
centerline of The Highlands.
Request to subdivide the property to establish a 3-lot, 3-unit
single-family detached residential subdivision. This project
requires approval of the foliowing actions: Reclassification
No. 2008-00215 - reclassification of the subject property
from the Transition (T) Zone to the Single-family Residential
{RS-3) Zone; Tentative Parcel Map No. 2006-229 - to
establish a 3-1ot, 3-unit single-family detached residential
subdivision; Variance No. 2008-04749 - to permit vehicular
access on an arterial highway (Canyon Rim Road) when
vehicular access is not permitted and the new parceis to
have a depth less than 150 feet.
Continued to October 27, 2008
Motion: Eastman/Romero
VOTE: 5-0
Commissioners Agarwal and
Buffa absent
Project Planner:
Kimberly Wong
kwanq2(a)anaheim. net
Commissioner Eastman offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Romero to continue Item No. 5
until the Planning Commission meeting of October 27, 2008. Motion passed with 5 aye votes.
Commissioner's Agarwai and Buffa were absent.
DISCUSSION TIME: This item was not discussed.
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ITEM NO. fi ~ ~_ ,.._.
CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION
(PREVIOUSLY-APPROVED) AND ABflENDMEt~T TO
COMDITIONAL USE PERMIT PIO. 2007-05226 Resolution No. PC2008-100
(TRACKING MO. CUP2008-05351) (Eastman)
Owner: Neai Desai
23800 Via Del Rio Approved
Yorba Linda, CA 92887
Applicant: John Dodson VOTE: 5-0
1330 Olympic Boulevard Commissioners Agarwal and
Santa Monica, CA 90404 0000 Buffa absent
Location: 1112 North Brookhurst Street and 2157-2165
West La Palma Avenue: This property is
approximately 1.5 acres, having a frontage of
266 feet on the north side of La Palma Avenue
and 86 feet on the east side of Brookhurst Street
and approximately 190 feet east of the centerline
of Brookhurst Street.
Request to modify plans for a previously-approved Projecr P~anner:
conditional use permit for a commercial retail center to Kimberty Wong
kwonq2(a~anaheim. net
increase the number of units from 12 to 14 and to permit a
convenience market without the sales of beer a~d wine.
Kimberly Wong, Planner presented the staff report.
Chairman Karaki opened the public hearing.
John Dodson, applicant, 1330 Olympic Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90404, stated that he has
reviewed the draft conditions of approval and did not have any changes and was available to answer
any questions.
Chairman Karaki asked if there was anyone who would like to speak to this item; seeing none, he
closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Eastman verified with the appiicant that he understood that the future convenience
market would not be permitted to sell alcoholic beverages since it is not permitted in the zone.
John Dodson verified that the sales of alcoholic beverages would not be permitted.
Commissioner Eastman offered a recommendation that the Planning Commission adopt the attached
resolution to approve the previously-approved Negative Declaration and to approve the amendment
to Conditional Use Permit No. 2007-05226 as recommended by staff.
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Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced that the resolution passed with 5 aye votes.
Commissioner's Agarwal and Buffa were absent.
OPPOSITION: None
Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney, presented the 22-day appeal rights ending at 5:00 p.m. on
Tuesday, November 4, 2008.
DISCUSSIOM TIME: 6 minutes (3:45 to 3:51)
Break 3:51 - 4:02
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ITEM fd0. 7
CEQA CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION, CLASS 1,
COIdDITIOMAL USE PERMIT NO. 2008-05342 AND
REQUEST FOR DETERMIMATION OF
PUBLIC CONVENIENCE OR NECESSITY NO. 2008-00049
Owner Robert Gundling
and 5131 Ohio Street
Applicant: Yorba Linda, CA 92886
Location: 1211 North Las Brisas Street: This property is
approximately 0.22 acres, having a frontage of
141 feet along the north side of Las Brisas
Street, approximately 117 feet from the
centerline of La Cresta Avenue.
Request to permit a winery and tasting room with retail sales
and on-premises consumption of alcoholic beverages.
Resolution iVo. PC2008-101
Resolution Mo. PC2008-102
(Ramirez)
CUP
Approved
PCN
Approved, modified Condition
fdo. 3
VOTE: 5-0
Commissioners Agarwal and
Buffa absent
Project Planner:
Scott Koehm
skoehm onanaheim.net
Scott Koehm, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Staff read into the record a modification
to Condition of Approval No. 3 of the Public Convenience or Necessity; "No distilled spirits shali be
sold under this license except as other wise permitted under the ABC Type 2 Winegrower license
issued by the Department of Aicoholic Beverage Control."
Chairman Karaki opened the public hearing.
Robert Gundling, OC Custom Wine Inc., 1211 N. Las Brisas Street, stated that he is available to
answer any questions.
Commissioner Faessel asked the applicant if they planned to bring in fruit to crush on site.
Mr. Gundiing replied yes. They are small scale company that caters to a higher end wi~e consumer.
They plan to crush the fruit in San Luis Obispo and bring it back to Anaheim as finished wine. The
central coast fruit and San Diego fruit will be brought to Anaheim for crushing.
Commissioner Faessel understood that they will bring back the crushed product in order to blend. He
asked if the facility would be more of a blending facility.
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Mr. Gundting stated that the consumers would blend the product. The consumer experience will
allow them to taste different styles of wine. They will walk through a process that will show them how
a wine maker would make a finished custom wine by evaluating taste and color.
Chairman Karaki asked if there was anyone who would like to speak regarding this item; seeing none,
he closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Ramirez offered a recommendation that the Planning Commission adopt the attached
resolutions to approve CEQA Categorical Exemption Ciass 1 and to approve Conditional Use Permit
No. 2008-05342 and Determination of Public Convenience or Necessity No. 2008-00049 with a
modification to Condition of Approval No. 3 as read into the record by staff.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced that the resolutions passed with 5 aye votes.
Commissioner Buffa and Agarwal were absent.
OPPOSITION: None
Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney, presented the 22-day appeal rights ending at 5:00 p.m. on
Tuesday, November 4, 2008.
DISCUSSION TIME: 11 minutes (4:02 to 4:13)
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ITEM NO. 8
CEQA CATEGORICAL EXEIVIPTION, CLASS 1. AtdD
CONDITIONAL USE PERIViIT MO. 2008-05348 Resolution No. PC2008-103
(Eastman)
Owner: Scott Elders
1629 W. Pomona Ste 106
Corona, CA 92882-7157 Approved
Hyr Enterprises
8030 Crystal Drive. VOTE: 4-1
Anaheim, CA 92807 Commissioner Romero voted no
Commissioners Agarwal and Buffa
Vaccher, Lino J Trust absent
8075 Crystai Drive
Anaheim, CA 92807
Rms Empire Anaheim Llc
4041 Macarthur'Blvd. Ste 510
Newport Beach, CA 92660
Applicant; David R. Sims
538 Ponce Avenue
Placentia, CA 92870
Location: 8095 Crvstal Drive: This property is
approximately 1.15 acres, having a frontage
of 420 feet along the north side of Crystal
Drive approximately 904 feet from the
centerline of Pullman Street. Off site parking
would be provided on three properties
located at (1) 8030 Crystal Drive which is
approximately 0.68 acres, having a frontage
of 70 feet along the south side of Crystal
Drive approximately 2,006 feet from the
centeriine of Pullman Street; (2) 8075 Crystal
Drive which is approximately 0.50 acres,
having a frontage of 140 feet along the north
side of Crystal Drive approximately 1,391
feet from the centerline of Pullman Street;
and (3) 8080 Crystal Drive which is
approximately 2.9 acres, having a frontage of
582 feet along the south side of Crystal Drive
approximately 1,101 feet from the centerline
of Pullman Street.
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Request to permit a church in an industrial zone with Project Planner.
fewer parking spaces than required by Code. ScottKoehm
skoehm ananaheim.net - - -
Scott Koehm, Associate Planner presented the staff report.
Chairman Karaki opened the public hearing.
David Sims, property owner, 538 Ponce Avenue, Placentia, CA, 92870, stated that Canyon Church of
Christ has operated in Anaheim Hilis for the past 18 years. There congregation has grown to have
210 to 240 people as an average for a Sunday morning attendance and their bailding only holds up to
255. They have searched for a larger building and found one in an industrial area which fits their
needs. They are a small community church and meet only on Sunday mornings. They occasionally
meet during the week for bible study which usually takes place in a home and occasionally on
Saturdays for barbeques or weddings. If they had any of these occasions going on they would talk to
their neighbors and ask them to borrow their parking spaces and if they could not they would find
other locations to park their cars.
Robert Chapman, property owner, 8045 E. Crystal Drive, 92807, stated that he is one of the property
owners in the industrial complex and they always welcome new businesses into the complex.
However, this industrial area was not set up to have a lot of people. He felt this area was designed to
have small businesses. He was concerned with the traffic and the limited parking spaces. He
wanted assurance that the new property owner would not disrupt their businesses. He thought the
business owners in the area should have a written proposal so that future issues that come up can be
addressed. He indicated that there are a lot trucks that come in and out of the area and he feels that
it may cause a traffic problem. He thought they should know what the short term and long term plans
would be for the new owners. He stated that he is one of the smaller business owners in the complex
and it is important that they continue to operate without any impediments.
Chairman Karaki asked Mr. Chapman if he knew that the applicant has made agreements with other
business owner's in the cornplex to accommodate their off-site parking.
Mr. Chapman replied yes.
Chairman Karaki asked Mr. Chapman if what he was asking for was to have accessibility to his site
without any problems at any time and without people occupying his parking spaces.
Mr. Chapman stated that some of the church's off-space parking is beyond their building. It would be
difficult for police to determine where people would park. There will be people coming further down
from the compiex that will walk to the church and things may happen. He wanted these concerns
addressed.
Commissioner Romero asked Mr. Chapman if he had a chance to read the conditions of approval that
were prepared for the applicant. He asked if that was made available to him.
Mc Chapman stated that it was not made available to him. He has not had full communication
between all parties and he has heard different things.
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Mr. Sims stated that one of their concerns was to not burden any of the existing businesses. They
have parking agreements with some of the tenants that will allow them use their spaces which ihey
will inspect prior to church and will be responsible to cone them off if they are deemed unsafe. They
are willing to make parking agreements with the tenants that do not want them to park in their stalls
so that they could feel safe that their parking stalls will not be used. The industrial park has 500
parking spaces and he does not think it would be a problem fior their use on Sundays.. The applicant
is sensitive to the neighbor's concerns for the parking use during the mid week and they would not be
using any other parking spaces other than their own during the week.
Chairman Karaki asked the applicant how many fix seats would they provide at their church.
Mr. Sims replied they will have 250 chairs and their 5 year plan will be approximately 350 chairs. The
reason they need a large area is to h~ve a stage for plays and skits that the children will perform.
Chairman Karaki asked how they will assure their neighbor's that they will not intrude into their
parking areas and not disrupt the flow of traffic.
Mr. Sims stated that their track record from their previous building shows that they have been good
neighbors by keeping their members in the correct parking area. They will monitor the parking areas
with cones and tell their members where they can and cannot park. They will provide flyers to direct
their members to the correct parking locations.
Commissioner Eastman commented that she is supportive of this type of use in an industrial area
because it makes sense that a church would need this space on Sundays and generally industrial
parks do not. She suggested that the applicant hold a community meeting and invite all the owners
and occupants so that they could get to know each other and to assure them that they will be good
neighbors.
Mr. Sims replied that they definitely want to do that and they should continue to communicate with
their neighbors.
Commissioner Romero was concerned with the large trucks that come in and out of the complex. His
concern was with the parking arrangement that they have on the other end of the complex. He
wanted to know how they planned to get people from the one end of the parking lot to the other
because there are no sidewalks.
Mr. Sims replied that they did not plan to use that area. The only reason they have that area is to
satisfy Code requirements. They anticipate that if they had to use that parking lot, the people would
walk from that parking lot to the church which would be approximately 300 feet. The warehouse has
a lot of room so that no one would have to be autside of their area because there will be plenty of
room inside so that people do not have to loiter outside.
Gary Robins, property owner, 8035 Crystal Drive, stated that when he purchased his business
property and it was based on being an industrial area. He did not anticipate that it would also be
used for a community event area. He expressed that kids will be kids and they will not always be
held to one particular area. He does not think that the CC&R's are set up or related to this type of
organization. He did not think it was the proper location for the Church. If people from the church
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used the parking lot on the other end they would have to cross property that was not meant for the
public to cross. His request is that this use does not take place at this industrial park.
Chairman Karaki reminded Mr. Robins that the City reviews this process. The applicant,has a
Conditional Use Permit and has to comply with ali conditions of approval. If the applicant is not in
compliance, the CUP would be revoked. They have to give them the benefit of the doubt that they
will comply with their CUP.
Commissioner Eastman reminded the neighbors that staff could provide a copy of the CUP and
Conditions of Approval so that they know what conditions the applicant has agreed to and what the
neighbors could hold them to.
Mr. Sims stated that the CC&R's for the industrial park do state that although each individual property
owner owns' their parking spaces, the association is the one who sees to it that everybody shares the
ability to walk and drive across, but not park on anybody else's site. There are common areas that
they will share and they definitely have to respect each other's parking spaces.
Commissioner Karaki asked if there was anyone who wanted to speak to this item; seeing none, he
closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Eastman offered a recommendation that the Planning Commission adopt the attached
resolution to approve the CEQA Categorical Exemption, Class 1 and Conditional Use Permit No.
2008-05348 with few parking spaces than required by Code.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary, announced that the resolution passed with 4 aye votes.
Commissioner Romero voted no. Commissioners Agarvval and BufFa were absent.
OPPOSITION: 2 persons spoke in opposition to the proposed project.
Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney, presented the 22-day appeal rights ending at 5:00 p.m. on
Tuesday, November 4, 2008.
DISCUSSIOfd TIME: 17 minutes (4:13 to 4:45)
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OCTOBER 13, 2008
PLANIdifdG COMMISSIOtd MINUTES
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:30 P.M.
TO MONDAY, OCTOBER 27, 2008 AT 1:30 P.M.
FOR PRELIMINARY PLAN REVIEW
Respectfully submitted,
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Donna Patino
Secretary
Received and approved by the Planning Commission on October 27, 2008.
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