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City Hall
Anaheim, California
February 29, 1960
pA70URNED REGIILAR MEESING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
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ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING - An Ad~ourned Regular Meeting of the City Planning Commission ~
was called to order at 2:10 0°Clock PaM., by Chairuorumabein
to act on the Proposed Trailer Park Ordinance, a q 9
present~ ;
PRESENT - Chairman Gauer, Commissioner Allred, Marcoux, Mauerhan, Mungall, sj
Summers, and Richard Reese, Acting Planning Directora 3
Commissioner Morris entered the meeting at 2x20 0'Clock P.M. ~
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ABSENT - Cammissioners DuBois and Hapgood~
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TRAILER PARK OYVNERS - NAME TRAILER PARK ~
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PRESENT Satellite ~
Clarence Meddoch ~
L~ Ve Bostwich Midway Trailer City
R. G~ Simpson Freeway Trailer Park ~
Kenneth Brown Ran~ho La Paz ( alif.
Ne Lo McAdoo• ~au~e H~a~~s ~~r$
Victor Fauser ~es~ ~V~inds 7rai~leT' odge ~
Bert VanHorn Riviera Mobilhome Park ~~
Claire Bradd Rancho La Palma :~
Charles Bradd ~ ~`
Russ Boney Orangewood Acres ~
Trailerland Park ~
Co Ho Cornelius
Ruth Mo Burk2 Trailer End Trailer Lodge ~
Mrsa Grifton Sell Multiple Mobile Homesites
DBPARTMENT R~PRESENTATIVES- Administrative Office - Robert Davis ~
PRESHNT Auilding Department - Homer Wallace ~
Fire Department - Edward Stringer 8 Robert PhiDip~~
Planning Department - Richard Ra~se
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PROPOSED TRAILER PARK - SECTION 37, Paqe 3- VACATION TRAILEFS
ORDINANCE Mro Bostwich said that he thought the 14 days should be '~
lengthened and suggested 100 dayse ~
Mr. Davis explained that we were nrnv pxoposing that a vacation ;
trailer be defined as one which does not remafn in any one ,
trailer park more than 30 days in any 6 month period a1d that !.
the size would not be regulatedo .
Mr~ Bostwick said he feels this will be a new industry.
Our travel trailer spaces will be separate from the big spaces.
Mr. Gauer said we don°t want the people in travel trailers to liv~
in ito If they are going to be permanent residents9 or stay
longer than 30 days then they should occupy a regular trailer
spacea Mr. Bradd said he would like to see the length
limitations dropped as they make 21° and 23' trailers just as
modern as they do larger ones, and they are adequate for a
single occupanto
Commissioner Mungall mov~:d that item 37, pa9e 3 be amended to
read a trailer which does not remain in any one trailer park
longer than thirty (30) days in any six (6) month period. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Marcouxo
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SEGTION 37 - The v~te on ~he above motipn was as fallowss
PAGE 3 Mauerhan, Morris,
VACATION TRAILERS AYES: COMMISSIONERSs Allred, Gauer, Marcoux,
(CONTINUED) Mungall and~Summerso
NOESs COMMISSIONERSi Noneo
ABSENTa COMMISSIONERS: DuBois ahd Hapgood
pp~ 5 - Mr. Davis said this $2040 fee is an inspection fee for these trailer
SECTION 5100.11 parks. Miith the standards established by the ordinance it will
FEES require more 3~spectionso
Mr, McAdoo spoke against thi.s feee
Mre Wallace said the county charges $2.50o To send a man thiough one
or two tim~s a montbo It will figure out to 20 cents a month rer
park space>
Mro McAdoo said we would rather have a fine for violations.
Mr, Geisler explained the process1, which one would have to go through
in a case where they were fined, and that it would be a lengthy
and expensive process.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSEDo
Commissioner Marcoux offered a motion to recommend to the City Council
for approvai that Sections 5100~10 and 5100e11 be deleted. Commissioner
Mauerhan seconded the motiono
Commissi~aer Wiarcoux stated his reason for this motion was that he
felt that if the apartments and motels are not charged a fee then
trailer parks should not be chargedo
Commissioner Mau2rhah, stated that he felt there was a distinct ~
dif~ c~twee ~ a ay~t~,°-~ mot~ t~er pa_~~oa~~~.
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The vote to take out the fee is as follows:
pYES: COMMISSTONERSs Allred, Mauerhan, Marcoux~ Gauera
NOESs COMMISSION~RSs Morris, Mungall, Summersa
ABSENTs COMMISSIONERS: DuBois and Hapgoodo
pA~ g - Mr. Davis, we have several trailer Narks come into the City lately.
SECTION 5100.31(b) All the new trailer spaces exceedo
The amendments to the county ordinance now~under consideration calls
for 3500 sq. fta of site area per treiler spacea
THE HEARING WAS CLOSEDo
Commissioner Mauerhan made a motion to recommend to the City Council
for approval that Section 5100.31 (b) remain as 2450 sqe ft. per space
and a minimum lot frontage of 35 ft. The frontage an cul-de-sac lots,
however, was to be measured at the building setback 11ne.
The vote on the above mution was as follows:
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qygga CO:NMISSIONERS= Mungall,GSummersarcoux, Mauerhan, Morris,
NOESs COMMISSIONHRSi None.
pggEN1': CODMAISSIONERS~ DuBois, and Hapgoode
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ADJOURNED REGULAR l:iEETING - CITY PLANIIJING COMMISSION - FEBRU~RY 29. 1960 - CONTIPNED: '
PAGE 8 - Parking of traflers is only allowed in the rear yard or "under cover".
SEC'fION 5100.26 ;
Commissioner Mungall made a motion to recommend to the City Council j
for approval that in Section 5100.26 "under cover° be change to,read ~
"in enclosed building". ,
This rf~otion was seconded by Commissioner Marcoux.
The vote on the above motion was as follows:
AYESs COMMISS~ONEjiS: Gauer, MaTCOUx, Mauerhan, Morris, Mungall and
Summers.
NOESs COMMYSSIONEE{Ss Allred
ABSENTs COMMI;,SION~RS: DuBois,and Hapgood.
PAGE 8 - The following information was read concerning the n~mber of occupants
SEG7ION 5100.25 permitted in various sized trailers at various standards of cpbic
feet of space per occupant.
OUCUPANlS ~OCUPANfS OCCU~ANTS
TRAIi.ER ST7_R_ C:iI_ FT. at 300 ru_ ft. a+ d00 cu.~•f£t..a~~0"GU.i,
8 x 15. x. 7 ~ 840 2 2 1
8 x 20 x 7 1120 3 2 2 )
8 x 25 x 7 1400 4 3 2 ~
8 x s0 x 7 1680 ~5 4 3 ~
8 x 40 x' 2240 7 5 4
8x50x7 2800 9 7 : 5 %
8 x 60 x 7 3360 11 8 6 ;
Mr. Geisler noted ~hat this section excludes travel trailers and ~
would only relate to those staying lo~ger than the 30 day period. ;
Mr. Davis noted that the last City wide count indicated an averege '
of 2.26 occupants per trailer. '
Mr. Bradd mentioned we have from time to time people who are waiting I
to get work or buying a house might have more than the correct number ~
in the trailer. ,
Commissioner Marcoux made a motion to recommend to the City Council
for approval that th3s be increased to n00 cu. ft. per oocupant •
and that the maximum number of occupants in any trailer not exceed
6 occupants.
Commissioner Morris seconded the motion. ~
The vote on the above motion was as follows:
AYESs C~IISSZONERS: Allred~ Ga•aer~ Marcoux, Mauerhan~ Morris~
Mungall and Summers.
NOHSs COMMISSION~RS: None.
ABSENTs COMMTSSIONERSs DuBois and Hapgood.
PAGE 8 8 9 - Mr. Davis, noi;ed that in the morning discussion with Mr. Brown,:
SECTION 5100.31 (c) that we had agreed to recommend a change from 14 to 30 days.
Mr. Hrown, stated they felt that the 900 sq. ft. provision would be
all right, but requested deletion of the minimum width provisiori.
Mr. Davis, stated we felt that one overnight space €or travel trailers
per 10 permanent spaces was a reasonable ratio, as there would be
a problem of what to do with these trailer spaces in off season. and
that we would probably be presnred' to permit their rental as .
permanent spaces.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
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ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING - CITY PLANNING COIdMISSION - FEBRIIARY 29 I960 - CONTINtJED:
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pp~ g g, q - Dick:Ree~e, rec~uested that if the ratio of over-night stalls were
SECTION 5100.31 (C) to b~.increased then there should be a requirment, that they
design them in such a manner as would permit their conversion.
to.permanent spaces in off-season months. The converted spaces
should be able to meet the required standards of perm~nent spaces.
Commissioner Mauerhan made a motion to recommend to the City Council
, for approval that it be raised one over night space for every 5
and delete the 21 feet and include 30 days instead of 14 and that
''the 900 sq. f~. provision remain as written.
This ~otibnn was seconded by Commissioner Allred.
The vote on the above ~otion was as followss
AYESi •Of~E~EISSIONEi.S: A],ired, Gaue~, Marcoux, Mauerhan, Morris,
' Mungall and Surtuners.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENTs CQMMISS~DNERSs DuBois.and Hapgood.
PAGE 9 •- The 5' rear yei~`"was brought up as being excessive.
SHCTION 5100.33
It was said that it is difficult to design them on 90° angle and
stfll stay 10' on this angle.
Commissioner Allred made a motion to recommend to the City Council
for approval that Section 5100.33 be amended to read No trailer
coach and no building or structures shall be located closer than
five feet (5') from the side and rear property lines or side and
rear trailer site lot lines. P ovi~ ~, ~h~ov ~v~er, where the '
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i~the ie~setback shall be
trailers are located-rear to re
minim.um.
' ?his motion was seconded by Commissioner Mungall. ~
ihe vote on the above motion was as follows=
AYESs COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Gauer, b1arcoux, Mauerhan, Moiris,
Mungall and Summers.
NOES: COMMISSION~RSs None. '
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: DuBois ahd Hapgood.
PAGE 14 - Mr. Davis, we have agreed to recommend that this section should
SECTIOPI 5120.5 be amended to allow for portable Bar Be CLes under metal awning.
PAGE 14 - Mr. Wallace noted that this section is quoted from the State Law,
SECTION 5120.4 but that tfieie had been an ommission.
Commissioner Mauerhan made a motion to recommend to the City Council,
for approval to change Section 5120.4 as reco~rn~+nded by the
Building Department and Fire Department. Sec'cion 5120.4
should reaq as followss
Awnings shall have at least one (1) side entirely open at all times.
Only drops may be used providing they are not permanently anck~ored.
No trellis, shrubbery, windbreak, structure or obstruction of•~any
type may be closer than three feet (3') of any awning screen.;
Open type fly screening may be used to enclose an awning~.pr.oviding
all sides of awning remain entirely open at all times.
Plans shal~ be submitted for approval of materials and design of
construct3on and a permit obtained.
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Screen frames shall not be used to support an awning.
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Motion was seconded by Commissioner Marcoux.
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PAGE 14 - The vote on the above motion was as follows:
SECTION 5120.4
(Continued) AYESs COMMISSIONE[tSs Allred, Gauer, Marcoux, Mauerhan, Morris,
Mungall and Summers. ~
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
AHSENT: CQMMISSIONERSs DuBois and Hapgood.
PAGE 16 - Mr. Davis, stated this had been discussed at the morning meeting and
SECTION 5160.1-C we recommend i't be amended in compliance with the State. We will go
along with the State standard if it has been changed.
Commissioner Mauerhan made a motion to recommend to City Council that
if the State Law has been changed that we accept the Siate diange with
reference to independent trailers. This motion was seconded by
Commissioner Marcoux.
The vote on the above resolution ~ras as follows=
AYESs COMMISSIONERSs Allred, Gauer, Marcoux, Mauerhan, Morris,
Mungall and $wnmers.
NOESa COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: DuBois and Hapgood.
PAGE 16 - There would also need to be change for the independent trailers.
SECfION 5160.3
Commissior~Er Manerhan made a motion to recommend to City Council
for approvai the same as up in C with the State, according to
State Standard. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Allred.
AYESs COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Gauer, Marcoux, Mauerhan, Morris; klungall
and Summers.
NOES: C~u1MISSIONERSs None.
ABSENTs C(IMMISSIO^1HRS= DuBoi's and Hapgood.
PAGE 17 - This would also need to be changed for the independent trailers.
SECTION ~160.7
Commissioner Morris made a motion to recommend to City Council for
approval, according to State Standard. Ihe motion was seconded by
Commissioner Mungall.
AYES: COMMISSIONEP,Ss Allred, Gauer, Marcoux, Mauerhan, Morris, 1lungall
and Swnmers.
NOESs COMMISSIONERS: None.
AHSENTs COMMISSIONERS: DuHois and Hapgood. •
PAGE 23 - The trailer park owners thought the fire hydrants arF: fine, but were
SECTION 5192.1 against the fire hoses which deteriorate.
Mr. Davis said this is a requirement of the State Code.
WAIVER CLAUSE - Cammissioner Morris made a motion to recommend to the City Council to
incorporate a waiver clause in this ordinance so that minor deviations
from this ordinance could be handled administrativly, after finding
unusual physical hardship on the property which would make striot
application of the property development standards unreasonable. This
would eiiminate the necessity of new ordinances and hearings on minor
matters. Commissioner Mungall seconded this motion.
The vote on the above motion was as follows=
AYESs CQMMISSIONSRSs
NOES: COMMISSIONERS:
ASSENT= COMMISSIO'~ERSt
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Allred, Gauer, Marcoux, Mauerhan, bSorris, l~mgall, E
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paTpURNMENT - The meeting adJourned at 4s45 0'Clock P. M•
Respectfully submitied,
RI ~RD REES~Secretary Pro iem
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