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y ECIAI.4~'E~2xiN~ ~,Arsp~,a3si^`meeting~of~~the Anaheim Ci't Y P~ u~in Commission
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{ ~r ;,~`~ ,` ,1971Y;ii~as ca1'led~.tosor'der°b`" Chaiaiman' Herbst'``at 7 ~32 P.i "`
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~ ;; ~ : Wal~ly Rothbgst;~ 9ro~:ect •Eaginee~r ,, , ~
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`; LIIP~iC,~iordholm,: Assistant ~~Project Engineer- ~y;~
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~ ?2erw~n Colson,~~Aasistant Highway Engineer °
~: ~Citq of Anahaim ..Representa~ives ~.; ~ ' ~ ,~ y
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5; w AssistaaC°Devel'o ment Ser~ices ~,U{rector Aonald Th~~oson ',
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Pubilic W~rks Dire'ctur Thornton 2iersall r~~-^,~
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i~TE~ J aiTNTINsTON 204 Er ~ Lincoln Avenue,. Anaheira, ~Cali'forrii,a, to,- "`:
ACH~~%REEQ,TAYi ~ L'~ ; corsid~r the sproposed; route`s o'f `the Rouee _39; ~~`
<'~at" ~;s~. y~ '}' ~rHuat3agtoa Bescli FreeWBq to: be lOCS ~.ci` iII. Lhe f'
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airman~Herlist ~alle~ ~rhe meeting :to~order, advising lntereRted pers~ons~~, ~~` ~
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at the ub.13c 3~e;azing ;~$$ _an inf4~mational meeting . to : gathei :'infox~uation : '~
om varying ;sources regardiiig the -Rropos;ed Route 39,-Huntington; Beach Free- h"~ '~^
y and introduced;`~ the repreEentatives of the :State~`Divis_ion o~f! Higtiways ~. ~~
a the'; Citq `of Anaheim;:_aad 'f,i+ thei.~ a3vi;sed Lti'at upon p;esentat'ion, of the ~ ~::. ~;;;
oaas,als 3y the ;State~~Divisi'on ef Highv,ays, representatives aad the.<City of " ~,s
aheim~ repre`sentatives,;;' a recess w,opld .be held, at;;which time,-cards_ would :. ~ '
Dassed out for'buet~tions,~to_be.presen`ted to,,!the,represenz~tives:~;for
swers;= after rec'onv¢nt'ng
Wallg &othbart;~Pro~,ect ~ag3neer for,;the State Aivision of.~Highways,,,,
esented ~h'e- State s pi,oiect of .the pro.po'sed;-Route ;39-Hun;t.ingt'on ,Beac& ~
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e~way to the Commissfoa and;the geaeral'.publ,ic, aoting.,~hat studies:for " `
e9lRoute 39 '.developsenE: began a number .of years ago;. .tha't duriag tlie cours~ ~~ h^~
Che-?r Youte location'studies they had'periodic meetings;~vith`::the staf-fs'; I:~ `
'the 'variou:s cities wh~ich cvo.uld-be af.fected 'b'q .t,~e± proposed, freewa ' ~ ' ~
d that duii`n the ' " ` ~- y. rou,tes; `
. 8'„ past, s8veral months fhere ;also.caas stabi'oned a:"f,reeway- .;,;
bile';; ia.-selecte,d are'as where cit3zens `coula'sek uuestionis about,.Che f.seecvay : ~;:
d geome ~ric nrints, tfins g~tting ian i3,ea of ;how ttieir homev .:v~.~id `;b`e : effect-
by ;the varaous' routes': : .;' '
e 4naaeim Planning Comm~ssion~ Mr: Ro~Ii,bart noted, `invited .~the Stat'e ~
ViS'~O'L~ of H,ighways to ~prssent the:~.routes ~f their:~s,tudy~;`regar;ding ~a~lternate ~~r
ans, ~aad as. intesested; eersons came:~irito ,ChP::buildinst an_.aerial ~meA`pi~
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SPECIAL PIIBLIC HEARING - stafFS, groups.,arid indivi:.'.+~als aa opportunity to
ROIITE;39-HUNTINGTON `aubmtt~informatton :and rec"ommendations as to accept-
` BEACH;FREEW4Y ' able° routeR,, as we?:1~ as make their views known.
This`would'b.e part of the record, and addition,al
I ~ information.could,be aubmi'tted in writing.to the
Division of Highways,..120 South Spring SEreet, Los.,Angeles, up to thirty
`daqs:thereafter,wIiich would.be included as part of'the.official record'.
Then as a-result~o.f,these studies, meetiags and hearingR, iuformation would
b.e develaged,so th'at the State Highway,Engineer and the Director of Public
Works':`could:evaluate,the alxernate•locations:for thig route and make their
individual.recomu~endaEioas to.the California Highway. Commisaion composed of
seven'persons appointed.by the Go~ernor who were impounded to select the
route.: The':Commisaion then w,ould adopt the route'that wae in the beat
public'.:interest:.
Mx Rothbart further no:ted that the route south of Lampson Avenue had been
adopted in the latter part of 1968;, that route studies north of the Pomona
Freewa}~ were'.underway, a~ir,h said extension to `terminate at Foothill Freeway -
( howeve:, this latter phe.se of. the freeway route.was one year behind achedule.
A series ~f slides was chen presented bq Mr. Rothbart who explained the
routes by.color, as *~rell as their alternatives, nofing where industries,
ac~ools, parks,'airports, etc. would'be located or affected.
Upon compleCion of the presentation of the alddes, Mr. Rothbart noted that
the question many times aroae whether or not the freeway was needed, aad he
~ would have to reply - qes. - becauae it was a.very important link in the
freew.ay sy'stem throughout Los Angeles and Or,a,age County and.was a vital
element.in serving the future needs of:this area; that the annual growth of
~ traffic along._Beach.Boulevard.(Route 39) was`';steadily iacreasing and had
~ reached a point where seper.e congestion was b~~ing experienced now with
' traffic ranging.over 30,-000 .vehicles per day a~,d'eatimated traffic volumes
for.the year 1990 would;indiaate that-traffic on Beach Boulevard (Route 39)
would increase to 60,OOO~veh3:les:per day -~this would be in addition to
the freeway, traffic, assuming, of course, that this freeway would be built;
that the freeway itself was estimated.to carxy over 100;000 vehicles per day;
that'rhese~figures were based'on new building.uaes which generated consider-
able traffic'now, and exLensive plans'for future development along this
rcute,, both-rzsidential, commercial, and industrial, was indicated. Another
questia~n almo asked was why couldn't the freeway be.built over the existing
: Beach.Bonieyard, making that street a double-deck street. However, one of
.the basic reasons for not conaidering this was the'fact that the area en-
` compassed l~y the existing street was not wide enough to build a€reeway,
and it would be riecessary to purchase all the commercial ~roperty on both
sides of.'Beach Boulevard. Fuxthermor~:, when freeways were built, they
attempted t~ retain Phe existiag major arterials to take care of local
*_raffic - Eherefore, it would be impractical to build a freeway on Beach
Boulevard. Also, tihe ideal situat3on would be.to build the freekay and
maintain Beach Boulevard, and then; in summation, noted that it would cost
$10,U00,Oq0 per miYe, including purchasing right-of-way, for the freeway,
and to build 3.t on pylons would cost twice as much~ Furthermore, it would
be extremely difficult to provide local service with on and off-ramps as
was presently planned, even though it had bee. tried elsewhere in areas
that were not consi::ered desirable fnr resideatial or commercial uses.
"Ira discussing the community impact effect of the fraeway, Mr. Rochbart
noted that the;.took into consideration the.aumber of homes that would be
taken, the number of peoQle who would'be uprooted, the number of businessQs
that would be taken, the.amount of city tax revenues.that would be removed
from;the rolls - all were of ma~or importance; and that all of these figures
were documented ia detail on.th.e chart in the booklet made ava:lable to the
general public.
Another factor which was of prime consideration, Mr. Rothbart stated, was
effects_.from noise from a freeway which.was proposed to be built, and it
was a known'fr~ct that.those residentisi areas immediately ad3acent to a
freeway would be nrimarily affected - also noises as.:.ay affected schools
~-:had to be taken into consideration
, particularly *ahere a school wa:i located
within 500 feet of a freeway. Thus, under a receutly-enacted law if the
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~. SPECIAL._PUBLIC,HEA4ING - noise:~level ia the schools reached 50 decibels,
ROUTE 39,=HUNTINGTON,,, !the-State Division of Highways woulfl have to.provide
BEACH FREEWAY. ~air-conditioaing; double=paning of windows, special
ceilings, etc. which would help to buffer noises
from,'the freewaq. ~a addiEion,.when going'through
a::resid,ential;siea~~theq'attempted to take'adrvantage:.of the natural terrain,
and. on fhe;;Orange..Route ;'there ;would be a v~ c~;r 'wide buffer strip withia the
Ed:ison_easem~~t~on the weat side of:the pxapoaed_route;. that barriers could
be, built, such as:earth mounds'or block=walls:':or"a combination of:both -
:` .however,iboth;:re~~uiied~more right-of-way;? that;Tandscaping;could also provide
some`o`f tue barc.ier needed to'reC,~ce noise; and.Eha.t,,in addizion, exhaust
e'missions a~ere;aignificantly lower when the::yeh`icle was.in cruise condition,
while.city,street'driving`required:more deceleration and acceleratioa as wel~
as'`suto' mode:at.'traffic signals - all of these modes produced a greater amount
of:exha~st emisaions:. :
~Mr.-Rothbart.'then' discusse:i the diaplacement of people when property was
`purchased for the`freeway righE-of-way., noting-that when the State purchasad
'.these properties. the right-of-way agent would obtain.liets from realtors on
homes selling in`this general area, making an independent appraisal, visiting
the progerty and taking into. consideration in the appraisal`all the improve-
ments in order that more compensatiun might be.given aad the replacement
~ costs would be based on cost of constructton at;the time.the affer to purchase
was made; tfiat~sometime.s because r.eplacem`ent could not be.made with the offer
made, the State was eapowered to pay up to $5,000 more-to allow people to
ob:tain-a comparable home, aad apartmeat rentais' would be given a similar
compensatory basis; and Chat where-Zoans had been made, at r.n~.time of pur-
~ chase,-,for instan~e,'at:SX,interest with;the hi fi iendia
8 g cost on homes
presently existing, interest rates.up to'SX and 9X - the State would pay
the di"splaced~property owner up ta ,Y3,000 d3ffeiersci~ in interest rate cetween
the existing rate' and the new rate established to financ~ a replacement home.
Assistant Planner,John Graich~n prese~:~ted the City ~~f Anaheim Development
SeYVices DeparL~ent atudy: of the pro~osed Route 39-~untington Beach Freeway,
aoting:tha+_' ataff had`been actively atudying the proposed Huntington Beach
Freeway~route~for a conaiderable time;'that not"bnly were th.ey concerned
with evaluating;the°four different routes but with the following basic
concernso 1) whethex or'not the ftceeway was xeally needed -in this area in
Anaheim;,.2).were freeways;the answe. to the Citq's traffic problems, or were
theq ~ust 'generators of,more smog.and.mrra noise; 3) were there other-
practtcal;alternative methbds of moving people, such as mass transit; and
4) if the existing.:north-south freeway were needed in the westerly area of
Anaheim as proposed by..the State Division of Highwsys, was the traditional
freeway design a desirable alternative for the street.
After consideralale research, the staff concluded~ Mr. Graichen noted, that
Southern Califarnia was committed to tre sutomob3le for tzansportation a5 a
result of past, preseat, and future density plans and programs, as well ~s
based upon the deaires of the people'living here - for instances the recent
defeat of the State-wide propositioa to allow gas tax funds to be diverted
to areas of transportation othes than freeways.
Staff also discussed, Mr.-Graichen continued, the increased proble••~ of air
pollution and posaible.alternative.of. maes;transit aerving Ehe Sou~'~rn
~aliforaia regioa.. It was staff's opinion.that by the time the land u~e
densities could be sYgaificantly increased to the point where mass transit
would become acoaomically.feasilsle,.an expected'technological br~akthrough
in the 3evelopment of the pollution-free sutomobile could be made'with
the reaultant continued dependeace-upon the sutomobile as a primary means
of transit in the Southern Califoxnia region.
As a result of this conclusion, the staff praceeded with preparing a report
analyiing the'four proposed xoutes ss presented by the State Ilivision of
Highways: However,,the staff felt that the traditional deaign of freeways
in California no longer was appropriate for the area - however, he did would
discuss this aspect in detail later. '
Mr.-Graichen then reviewed the summary report (on file in the Development
Services Dgpartment).
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6. Comment by one person that he was in favor of.the Blue Rot~te. ' '
7. Comment by another person against the.Orange-Blue Route north of
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and Magnolia Street.
8. Whom can we contact regarding questions?
Answer: The person closeat to the freeway is myself
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`9.' At wk~at time can.one expect a deciaion on which.route would be selected '?
and when would acquisition of the properties begin?
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1T. Does on~ have to pay income tax on the profit of the home which the ~
State,would purchase for construction of the freeway? i
Answer: A'tax will have to be,paid if you do not purchase another home ; -
aC the price you received from the State, or more.
12. Can one purchase another ho~me under the GI Bill if the freeway took the
home?
Answer: .To my knowledge, you can`purchase another home, and the GI los~n
probably would have to be renegotiated.
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Answer:` The ~State Division' of Highways is
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15-. I own a business in:the path of.the Red Route,.and'I would hate to lose
' my means;:to earn a living: What happens to:my busYness? ,
Answer: We,would purchase qour business if.it.is in tHe freeway area.
We_would also':pay your moving e.xpenses, and you-couYd start,your business
in another'erea: Furthesmore, we have expe.rienced appraiaers to visit '
your~place of busYness and detetmine the value and worth of:the property
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16. Will.the Orange Route.take out all the land.between the Santa Ana ~'
Freeway aad the: Riverside Freeway. as indicated on,'the Anaheim map? ''"~'~~'}
Angwer: Both•the Orange and Orange-Bl,ue Routes would take up considez- `~
able propertq, although it might not take all the property indtcated`on
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17. Four yeara.ago at a meeting h`eld in the area it was stated no alternate -;;~:1
route west of Knott Street would be considered,'and now we have the .-~
Green Route., We who attended.th3s meeting as a:result of this atate-
ment`:have iavesfed,money and extra upkeep aad landscaping, and thia ,
would-riot Hgve`.been..done if we had known the;Green Route was being
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and theae meetings are juat "saow jobs"? ~
Answer: My answer is an emphatic "no". ~.
19. Why isn't the Esi~A9on easement incorporat.ed in the freeway plana - the
linee nould be put underground.
" Anewerc According.to the Edison Companq, these linea cannot be placed
underground becauae they generate considerable heat ~nd are very hot.
Therefore~ aothing could be built there because the line would have to
' remaia overhead, and no fre•eway aould be built in that easement.
20. If the Orange Route i.s aelected, this would take La Reina Street, the
onlq access from aeveral cul-de-sac atreets b etween Lincoln and
Crescent Avenuesa How would the State resolve thie access problem?
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Answerp The money had not been budgeted for this freewaq, and none _ ,.~_
of the routea has b.een adopted, and acquisition would not begin until
1978 or 1979 - however, we would never;leave cul-de-sac streeta without
any ecceea to and from said~street. ' Therefore, these homes would have
to-be purchased or alternative methods worked out, such as extending
the street eaeterly. ~
,21. If a person had rental~investment property in the patti of a freeway,
will he receive the same compensmtioa as the average homeowner? ~.
Answer: I don"t know.if he would receive_the same compensation, but ~
we would purchase the.property in-the same manner, and whether or not ~
compensation'would:be given for loss of income, this is something I
cannot.answer.
22.' I am 64 years old.- Wi`11 this route be decided in five years, more or
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Answer: ,The route will be adopted in approximately two years, but it
- will not be built for approxianately ten years.
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l SPECIAL;PUBLIC HEARING }23 Is full:consi`deration givea to improvement:s
~ ta a home
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ti BEACH~FREEWAY' carpeting,=drapes,. block walls, s_prinkler.
k system,':sir-conditioning,'etc:,'since'other
~ ` - compa=ative homes have,sacrificed for less;
~ thaa tlieir.. fair value? '` ~' .
~ Answer All.these improvements wi11 be taken iate consideration when
" the. apprai~sers!`check;, the ;g`roperties. .
24. If-`one plans to aell;his.~home within the next few pears,:must one
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Y.: he p.rospective.buyer? . -.
Anewer. `,,You ;stiould, :or the real` estate~ $geat should, but le~t qour
conscieace -be ,y,our; guide.<
25:' After a route,has been selected, when wi11 the State start to acquire
the: pYOperties? ~
; Answer: You:could~figure on living,in these homes for seven to ten
years - dt.will be,that.'long before`the State starts acquiring these
hous es .: ' '
26: If:e large area of.an existing park ad~acent to a achool is Xaken,
would they remove the extra h~mes to compensate for the acreage lost
in order to make the'nark as large.`and useful as it was,before?
Ans,wer: 'AdditioaaT•land,-which may be homes, will be allocated for
the park'area..:
27. I£ the proposed:route cuts off `complete.access to streets, school,
etc., what will happea,.what will be done, and how will this affect
Property,valuesY'
Aaswer: We mui~t purchase the homes because one of the requirem~nts
whea building'a freewaq is to leave the access opea,t,o homes, or if
this is impossible, purchase:tNe homes which will have their access
cut of£.,'
28.' .Under.FAA 235.one-half of the total inatallment on my homa is paid.
Wo.uld I.be entitled to the same`right.if my home were affected by the
~freewaq and the hume was purchased by the State?
Answer.. 'Yes. '
29. What about the"few homes that wi11 be left on Aurora Street?
Aaswer:; I would be`glad to discuss this with you after Ehe publi:c
~hearing;where I can indicate the location on the mosaic.
30. If some homes on a cul-de-sac are taken for freeway property, what
i will happen to the remaining homes on the cul-de-sac since t,here would
be'no access?
Answer: This ~ras aaswered before.
Assistant Development.Services Di;ector Ronald Thompson noted that if there
were any interested persons seekiag information on the freeway, they could
contact the Traffic Engineer or the Developme~it Services Department of the
City of pnaheim who would be.glad to discuss their problems, and route maps
were slso on dispZay at City Hall whe'~~ these p.roperties could be evaluated~
Chairman Herbst asked if there were any questions from interested persons
crho might like to present them verbally.
A gentleman:. If the.freetaay takes La.Reina Street, how will the Bruce Avenue
people get out? This is the second street aorth of Lincola Avenue.
Answer: We would~have to punch that street easterly.
Geatleman: But there is a church to the ~east.
Aaswer: Then we would have;to purc.hase these homes.
Lady: Why haven't the representatives of th,~ City of Anaheim,stated
publicly that;they are>ia favor. of the_Green Route?
''Mr. Graichen: The City staff evaluated all the routes for consideration
by the Planning Commissioa and City Council, and we do not, as staff
members,.give our opinion or pre£erences - this is something the Planning
'Commission considers'in their recommendation to the City Council, and the
City Council,:in turn, makes their preferences known to the State. However,
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'.$PECIAL;PIIBLIC HEARING -.we did indicate~that~the Green Route would be better
ROIITE '39~HUNTINGTON ~:for community. effec'ts,=and.,the:-Orange-Blue-Orange
BEACH FREEWAY:• Route,.was~better from a t=a£fic,standpoint.
' Chairman Heibst:.,,The staff does:not make r.he
decision' they only present all the~facts for Ehe Commission to determine
what'their recommendatioa~will be to.the;City. Council"since the City'Council
is; the body making ;ithe f;inal- decision -as it pertains: `to the route preferred
'whea..making,th"eir..recommendation to the State. Meanwhile the City Council
will also:hold a public<hearing, and you wi11 be notified in the.same manner
as.;you were for the Planning Commisaion..public hearing - therefore,' a13
~ staff could do was;eb'aluate the rouEes.and the pub'lic hearing is held aa
that tlie City'caa determiae the preferences of the general public.
L`ady :.The Orange Route takes some o£ the educational-recreational areas
from the`Maxwell Park ad~acent to the Maxwell School, a branch library,
and would cut;through:the center of a besutiful,:as well as new, residential ~
.area:on ei~ther:.side of•,the proposed Orange:Route; end that she felt the free-
~ G*aq would~be very detrimental to.th'e'eatire area, both fsom an enviroamental,
school;"and recreational`standpoint. '
Gentleaan: On the Orange Route at Magnolia Avenue and the Riverside.Freeway,
will they widen tkat entrance as far as.Gtlbert since'T feel this is already
a poor;design for ~the extension of the~Riverside Freewaq to the west?
Mr..Rothbart:. There are no plana for wideniag the Riverside Freeway, but
there are.plans to widen the Saata Aaa.Freeway.
Lady. For,ovez a_year I have been.making a survey regarding Orange County
freeways... I.`have.worked:as a'mailcarrier a1L over at Orange County. After th
freeway;goes:through, i will probably:be'.affected by what will happen to
these people:- however, dery little coasideration.is given others who are
le~ft with ungodly fumes, traffYc noises, etc. - these people will have
horrible homes.: If we"can make a little:miatake'on a very new freeway, the
Artesia`„Freeway, the noise level is`quite impossible, and this concerns me
,` very much.s,ince I am coacerned-about'our environmeat and our people. As a
substitute~teacher:in four districts and in oae of the schools in the Buena
Paik.S~chool District ~shere they recently found it necessarq to install
apecial equipment to reduca noises -`therefore, I think the recommendations
of:;the -0ity of Ana~eim staff should.'be given moat careful consideration
to all facets - it will be very necessary for us to think about things
in the'futura - our cities, etc., b_esuse if we don't, we will not have
yery much left. Therefore, the re~rrmmcndations by st_aff as to a depresaed
~reeway,}landscaped parks, and a w~d~: freeway area'.should all be given
careful constderation in order that the ad3oiniag residents will be less
affected. I was PTso verq concerned about what i saw in Buena Park after
seeing one s2ide which showed a cut on a hill where inatead of the freeway
going around it, 3t was,routed through there, and the State stated all
they wauld do was plant a little something there.
Gentlemsa: Since I am the seventh house f~ram La Reina Street and someone
said La Reina Street would be closed, there are many homes in this area that
would be affecied.
Mr.'Rot~bart: If we could extea3.Yale Aveaue to the east, th~s would
resolve.this psoblem. Hosoever; if this could not be done, then we would
have to purchase all these properties.
Gentlaman: If Z a Reina Street-is closed, the State could take one tier af
houses €rom either the westerly or the easterly eud, giving the rem~i•ning
homes access to; Crescent Avenue:by,c:onstructing a new street.
Gentleman: When will the'route be adopted?
Answer: The exact time would depend upon the amouat of opposition thaT was
presented at the State's.public heering, but.it wonld be somewhere later in
1972;or:..1973:
Gentleman: If the,straight Urange Route were adopted, how will the Standard
oil wells be.iffected?
Answer: We'would have to purchase a portioa of these wells.
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Gentleman: But it would be very expensive to relocaie the wells. ;
Answer: That is so. The cost is very high. according to Standard Oil '
Corporation. ~
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`SPECIAL~PUBLIC"HEARING --Gentleman -,If the Qrange: Route is-.adopted, will
ROUTE~39-HUNTINGTON` Magnolia Avenue be,closed? .=
BEACH:FREEWAY>: Answer: No; it will be kept.open, and.there will
- ~ be a road..'r"outed`under`:or ov.er the'freeway to.gain
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Gentleman: After the State's p'ublia°hearirigs, when may we expect`these
homes to be p.urch,ased?
, Aaswer:. Ia seven`'Eo tea years:
Gentleman My`home<between Cerritos:Avenue and'Ball'Road, westerly of
Raott.Street would~be affected.: Would the~`State:purchase all pioperties
where no access is`available,.eapecielly where'several blocks might be
~closed? •' , . ~
Aaswer: It is inconceivable that we'would have several b,locks'.which would be
affected; but.we could not leave.homes without ac"cess. Therefore, we would
have to purchase; ttiem:
Gentleman: The Citq,proposed:that.if the freeway were considered to go
through,Ariaheim, perhaps tlie freeway'right-of=way could.be widened, and
since the State was'only p,ermitted to purchase a 300-foot''width, would it
be proper for the City to look forward.to seeking rule legislatioa to
urovide a,greater width for, the freeway.so this could be included in 'the
~ puichase of the wider right-of-way? _
Mr. Rothbart: The City staff felt that a greeter area betweea the freeway
right-of=way and the'homes ~as desirable. However, since we presently
C could only purchase'properties for the freeway itself, the homes ad~acent
`, to the`freewag,would be affected.
j Gentlemaa: If the..ci~ies'seally wanted this, then they should.start
~ legislation:.to provide thi~ £or the:Department'of Highways staff.
' ,~Mr: Rottibart: Yes.. Although.the freeway route had been adopted south of
Lampsoa'Avenue, purchase of t1~e right-of-waq had not been budgeted, but
,due,to some:;hardship cases, we were purchasiag some homea tkat were in ~
the freeway route. Furthermore,.we were also- ermitted to urch - ~
. p p ase right
of-waq,;wh"ere large:de.velopera.:planned to build; and the State thua would ~
tie'{~reventing;having to purchase'theae,propertiea at a higher price by
purchasing'them now p.r.ior to~the time these.properties were developed. ~
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Commisaioner Rowland noted that it was his opinion after hearing the State ~
and'the::'City's preaentations, as we11 as aI1 the questiona and answers (
which gave a fairly.good`cross-aection of feelings and attitudes of the peoplei
living in the area regarding these routea, the City should consider another i
public hearing:to fnrther air these problema after staff and tha Conmission ~
had-a chance to digest this.information. Therefore, he would recommend that ~
the public heariag on the Route 39-Huntington Beach Freeway be continued i
four weeka,or until euch time as it takes the staff to prepare these answers. i
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Mr..Thompa9n noted that the staff could have the minutes prepared in time i
for a four-week continuance. !
. Commiesioner Farano noted that most of the questiona by interested persons
dealt with need for the freeway, but he did not feel the ~City ahould proceed
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with that presumption in mind;` that'the State had made studies, and he had
been involved in theae sEudiea, and there is still some doubt in his mind
that the £reeway was needed in"thYs'location, elthough he was not stating
that it was or wae not; that he would like to have made available for the
Commiasion at the next hearing, o; prior to that time, information so that
the Commisaion could~prepare some queationa of the criteria which the State
used in determining the.general location of- the freeway; that he had seen
the criteria for routes - however, he wanted something about whexe the free-
way is to be`located from the atandpo~.nt of traffic studies, more particu-
larly specific-traffic'studies, etc..'Looking at the maps of the freeway
locationa in Anaheim, it seemed to him that theae #reeways were almost equi-
distant fxom each other, end .if this represented the kind.of planning or was
par.t of the'criteria, then the Commission should talk about 3t, but the
Commission wanEed to see routes wiEh traffi,c patterns and counts, how the
City would sEand to benefit by the propoaed freeway, and why the freeways
were proposed to be locatad in thesa areas, not only the Orange Route,
but any other route, and when the Commisaion was to consider this again,
he waated this to be taken into consideration in the hearing.
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