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City Hall
Anaheim, California
April 19, 1971
A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR - A regular ac,eting of the Anaheim City Planning Commission
MEETING
was called to order by Chairman Herbst at 2:05 P.M.
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PRESENT - CHAIRMAN: Herbst.
`.~ Gv - COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano (who entered the Council
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ABSENT - COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
,.ti PRESENT - Assistant Development Services Director: Ronald Thompson
Deputy City Attorney: Frank Lowry
Office Engineer:
" Jay Titus
Zoning Supervisor:
,, Charles Roberts
Assistant Zoning Supervisor:
; Malcolm Slaughter
Commission Secretary:
; 'r` Ann Krebs
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' PLEDG~ OF - Commissioner Allred led in the Pledge of Allegiance to
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^ APPROVAL OF - Minutes of the meeting of March 22, 1971, were approved
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i TENTATIVE MAP OF - DEVELOPER: J. W. KLUG DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, INC.,
TRACT NO
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540 Campus Drive, Newport Beach, California.
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ENGINEER: Millet, King & Associates, 1303 West
'~ Valencia Drive, Fullerton, California. Subject
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90 acres, is proposed for subdivision into 440 R-2-500
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of the zoning.
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Tentative Map of Tract No. 7137, Revision No. 2, to the meeting of
, ~ , May 3, 1971, seconded by Commissioner Seymour, and MOTION CARRIED
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; TENTATIVE MAP OF - DEVELOPER: L. A. MUCKENTHALER, 1530 West Avolencia
TRACT NO
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Drive, Fullerton, California. ENGINEER: Anacal
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di~.•ision into 41 R-1 zoned lots.
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TENTATIVE MAP OF - Assistant Zoning Supervisor Malcolm Slaughter reviewed
TRACT NO. 7370 the location of the proposed tract and the Report to
(Continued) the Commission together with a quote from a letter
received from the Orange County Flood Control District
pertaining to severe lateral erosion of the unprotected sand levees of the
Santa Ana River together with the OCFCD's recommendation that the tract be
disapproved or the property not be permitted tc d~velop until such time as
the Santa Ana River was improved upstream from LakAview Avenue.
No one was present to ~epresent the engineer.
~ Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts noted that Mr. Cal Queyrel of Anacal
?'"'''- Engineering was interested in this tract and woulc3 most likely want to
~ address the Commission regarding the recommendations, therefore, the
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Mr. Jack Hall, civil engineer, representing the developer of the tract
to the east of subject property appeared before the Commission and stated
that the same problem facing subject property would affect the property
to the east and staff in referrinq to the letter from the OCFCD did not
state whether there was a commitment by the Flood Control District as to
when the work would be done to construct the revetment along the levees
up stream from Lakeview Avenue and would it be the policy of the City of
Anaheim to require a satisfactory flood hazard letter from the OCFCD for
any development along the river?
Chairman Herbst requested that the letter from the OCFCD be read in full,
which was done by Mr. Roberts.
Mr. Hall then noted that staff had recommended an alternative - would that
be approval subject to an agreement with the Flood Control District?
Chairman Herbst noted that the tract could not be approved until this lateral
erosion was provided for either by the Flood Control District or the
developer.
Mr. Cal Queyrel, engineer of the proposed tract, appeared before the
Commission and stated at the ICPS&GW meeting they had discussed the condi-
tions of approval and the possibility of issuance of a building permit
only after the levee was completed; that he had walked the levee earlier
in the day and he was convinced that there was no lateral erosion of subject
property; that in this particular area other tracts had been approved on
the same basis, and the situation had not changed from that ti~r~e when these
tracts had been approved and developed, therefore, it would appear that
subject property was being treated unfairly because it was his feeling
that the OCFCD should have completed the revetment of the levees to Imperial
Highway at the same time as they were completed to the south; that since
he had walked the levees and felt there would be no problems since the
levee turned away from subject property moving in a northerly direction
rather than to the south; that when the bridge at Lakeview Ave. was constructed
it had changed the channelization of the water from a former 600 foot width
to only 200 feet, and any property immediately adjacent to the bridge would
be affected, hewever, subject pxoperty would not be so affected; and that
this was the first letter submitted by the OCFCD regarding possible flood
problems since the recent decision made by the Corps of Engineers-U.S.
Army, therefore, it was his opinion that there would bc no more danger
to subject property than to other tracts in the immediate area which were
approved and developed.
Commissioner Farano entered the Council Chamber at 2:13 p.m.
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Mr. Queyrel then noted that he had contacted Mr. Jack Sc:~warze, division
engineer of the OCFCD, who had advised him that his intent in stating that
subject property would be subject to a standard project flood was to mean
a 100-year flood.
Commissioner Seymour inquired whether or not it would be of any assistance
if subject tract were approved subject to working out this flood problem
with the OCFCD. Whereupon Mr. Queyrel stated it would be helpful, but
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TENTATIVE MAP
TRACT NO. 7370 OF - there could be a problem with the financial instituti
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a favorable flood hazard letter could not be obtaitted.
However, if there
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storm the flow of water could
which could ca create turbulence at the bridge
use erosion and which the OCFCD
for any repair should be held responsible
to damage caused by this
erosion to the adjoining properties.
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letter would not have been written if there w
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Mr. Queyrel, in response to Commission questioning, stated that it was
; his opinion that Prado Dam was deficient, however, if the water would break
,` through th~ levees as it did in 1938, it would occur east of Imper._al Highway
and would affect the industrial area.
Chairman Herbst noted tteat the U.S. Corps of Engineers recognized this
; deficiency of the dam, however, they also stated it could be 20 years before
~ they could have anything done to improve the dam.
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Mr. Queyrel, in response to Commission questioning stated that a one year
delay would not have too much effect on the tract, but he could not understand
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r's questioned when the PProved, and now subject tract was being
.~ problem had been the same for all the properties in
the area.
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made everyone more aware of the problem.
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Mr. Queyrel responded that the levees had never been constructed properly;
however, the other tracts were still allowed to develop, and that the levees
had never been improved adjacent to these developed tracts, although the
levees were improved up to Glassell Street.
Commissioner Seymour noted that the Commission had a certain responsibility
to the Citizens of Anaheim and having received this letter from the OCFCD
the erosi.on problem was brought into focus, however, the Commission had
discussed this flood problem before and had found that the Commission was
not the determining body as to flood problems.
Commissioner Allred noted that some of the lots were on1~- 94 feet which
did not meet with the SC Zone requirements. Whereupon, Mr. Roberts replied
that although subject property was within the ~C study area, the developer
was desirous of developing this tract, and since the SC 2one had not been
adopted by the City Council as an ordinance, the:e was nothing within the
Code which could be applied t~ cuntrol this.
Chairman Herbst noted this would place the homes almost immediately adjacent
to the freeway. Whereupon Mr. Roberts stated that the homes in the sub-
division imme3iately to the east on the south side of r~c Kinnon Drive were
a little more than 100 feet, and that Mc Kinnon Drive already had the street
alignment established.
The Commission inquired of Deputy City Attorney Fraak Lowry what effect
would be experienced by subject property if the SC Zone ordinance was
established and the tract had not developed for sometime because of the
inability of obt~ining a satisfactory flood hazard letter - which was possible
if the levees were not improved until 19'2 - furthermore, if a final tract
map were recorded in six months and in the meantime the SC Zone was adopted,
~aould the SC standards sti;l apply, since other property owners in this
area were being made to comply as a condition of obtaining the zoning for
their groperty.
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TENTATIVE MAP OF - Mr. Lowry replied that if the tract were not finalized
TRACT NO. 7370 in one year, then th> developer would have to ask for
(Continued) an extension of time, and perhaps at that time the
City could require the SC site developr.znt standards
to be imposed as a condition of granting the extension
of time. However, if the final tract map were recorded within the year,
then the conditions that appeared on the books at the present time would
be the controlling factor.
_'° Commissioner Farano noted that if the SC Zone were established and the
"~`~ ~ tract were not developed within a year, then the tract before the
~:,;:,;?;,,, '` Comm3ssion now would have to be re-drawn.
~ Mr. Lowry then inquired of Mr. Queyrel whether or not it would impose any
c problem with his client to meet these new requirements oE the SC Zone;
' whereupon Mr. Queyrel replied that the map met present code requirements;
~ and that Mc Kinnon Drive was in and improved, therefore, they could lose
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~ four lots which would not be buildable lots if they had to meet these new
requirements.
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i Office Enqineer Jay Titus, ia response to Commission questioning, stated
that the center two lanes for Mc Kinnon Drive were constructed and the
alignment for said street was adopted.
Commissioner Seymour offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Allred
~ and MOTTON CARRIED, to approve Tentative Map of Tract No. 7370, subject
`~' to the following cunditions:
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p ~ prorerty shall be submitted to and
approved by the City Counci.l and then be recorded izz the offic:e of
.,~. the Orange County Recorder, provided however, that no final tract
_ map shall be approved until the Santa Ana River channel is improved
to OCFCD standards or unti]. a favorable flood hazard letter is
!;;i obtained from the OCFCD.
(2) That street names shall be approved by the City of Anaheim prior to
:~ approval of a final tract map.
;~ (3) That the owner(s) of subject property shall pay to the City of Anaheim
the appropriate park and recreation in-lieu fees as determined to be
;:~ agpropriate by the City Council, said fees to be paid at the time
4: the building permit is issued.
'.;~. (4) That should this subdivision be developed as more than one sub-
division, each subdivision thereof shall be submitted in tentative
form for approval.
(5) That all lots within this tract shall be served by underground
utilities.
(6) That Mc Kinnon Drive, Maychelle Drive, and Street "A" shall be
constructed with a 40-foot roadway and a 60-foot right-of-way.
(7) That drainage of Tract No. 7370 shall be disposed of in a manner
that is satisfactory to the City Engineer and the Orange County
Flood Control District.
(8) That a 6-foot masonry wall shall be constructed along the southerly
property line between the tract and the Riverside Freeway.
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VARIANCE NO. 2244 - CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING. EUGENE F.. LA MERES,
New England, North Dakota, Owner; WILLIAM J. LA MERES,
1570 South Harbor Boulevard, Anaheim, California,
Agent; requesting WAIVER Oi' MINIMUM NUMSER OF REQUIRED PAI2KING SPACES TO
PERMIT EXPANSTON OF AN EXISTING MOTEL on property described as: A
rectangularly-shaped parcel of land having a frontage of approximately
175 feet on the west side of West 5treet, having a maximum depth of
approximately 300 feet, and being located approximately 290 feet north
of the centerline of Katella Avenue, and further described as 1759 South
West Street. Property presently classified C-R, COMMERCIAL-RECREATION,
ZONE.
Subject petition was continued from thE meeting of April 5, 1971, for the
petitioner to be present to answer questions which the Commiss~on had.
Assistant 2oning Supervisor Malcolm Slaughter reviewed the location of
subject property, uses established in close proximity, and the request
of the petitioner to waive 328, or 22 parkiirg sgaces, of the required
parking in order to expand the existing motel; that a similar request
had been considered by the Planning Commission several years ago, however,
at that time the Commission required dn impartial report to verify state-
ments made by the petitioner regarding the number of parking spaces avail-
able; and that the Planning Commission had requested staff to make a study
of the Commercial-Recreation parking requirements to consider possible
revisions, however, due to work loads, this study had not been completed.
Therefore, the Commission wauld have to judge the requested variance on
its individual merit.
Mr. william J. La Meres, agent for the petitioner, indicated his presence
to ans~ver any qucstions tY,e Commission miyht have.
Chairman H!:rbst inquired as to the reason for the request by the peti-
tioner pertaining to parking waivers.
Mr. La Meres replied that they were trying to uti.lize their property to
its fulLest advantage; that a previous variance had been granted for a
similar request by the representatives of the Ivanhoe Motel; that the
figures he had available from a survey he made could be questionable;
that their business was such that it was becoming more and more having
guests arriving via the airlines; that on April 3, 1971, their facilities
were full because it was the "Spring Fling" which attracted people within a
200-mile radius and from which they had expected more automobile arrivals
than normal - however, when he made his survey that evening at 11:00 P.M.,
the Lamplighter Motel - subject property - with 26 units had 8 empty
parking spaces; the Cosmic Age Motel had 6S empty parking spaces; the
Saga Motel with 100 rooms and no vacancy had 48 vacant parking spaces;
and the Park Vue Motel with 90 rooms had 64 empty spaces; that they had
this type of vacancy consistently because of their airline program; that
a report by the Southern CaZifurnia Visitors Sureau indicated that 57+h
of the visitors to the Southern California area arrived without an auto-
mobile, and 40+E of this total rented an automobile, or a total of 22.8~
of the visitors - therefore, it could be assumed that there would be many
vacant parking spaces in the motel parking areas.
Commissioner Farano inquired during what period of t'ie day and what
period of the year was this survey made by the Southern California
Visitors Bureau; whereupon Mr. La Meres replied this was a summertime
sLrvey.
Commissioner Farano then inquired over what span of time was the survey
made - for a week, a month, or what; whereupon Mr. La Meres replied that
the information was not given in their survey - therefore, he felt the
evidence he could present would not be sufficiently factual.
Chairman Herbst inquired whether the Southern California Visitors Bureau
report covered the Anaheim area or Southern California since if it
covered Southern California, there was an entirely different situation
as it pertained to the Disneyland area.
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VARIANCE NO. 2244 - Mr. La Meres stated he felt the Disneyland-Anaheim
(Continued) situation was the opposite of that in the other parts
of Southern California, namely, that the majority of
the tourist business came by airplane.
Chairman Herbst noted that when the previous petition for waiver of park-
ing was submitted, the petitioner had submitted a day-by-day and month-
by-month, impartial audit of his needs; that th~ ~ommission realized that
during the summer months motels were filled with automobiles - therefore,
if the petitioner had some data which the Commission could consider that
all the parking provided ~vas not being utilizEd during the summer months,
it should be submitted; and that the only reason the other motel operator
obtained approval was because of the verified data submitted which
reprPSented business for an entire year. Thus, each motel would have to
present substantiating data regarding their operation before any considera-
tion could be given to waive these requirements.
Commissioner Gauer inquired of the petitioner what he would do with the
rooms that were still vacant after all the parking had been utilizcd -
~~ would he provide valet parking; whereupon Mr. La Meres replied that they
_ would not rent a room until they could assure the guest that a parking
space would be available. However, most families arriving rented two
rooms with only one automobile arriving, and no one appeared to take this
into consideration.
The Commission then requested a copy of the supporting data or study from
which Mr. La Meres was quoting; whereupon Mr. La Meres gave the Commission
a copy of this report for their perusal.
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Mr. La Meres continued by stating he operated four motels with approximately
600 rooms, havi-.g considerable airlines business which was heavy in compari-
son with what ~ne small motel would have, since if they did not have an
adequate supply of rooms available, they could not offer this package deal;
that they had several promotional packages with United Airlines and Delta
Airlines, as well as ticket reservations with cther airlines; and that
these guests arrived by bus either at the Grand or Disneyland Hotels
where they were picked up by the motel bus service, and subject property
was only 200 yards from the Disneyland Hotel.
Commissioner Kaywood inquired whether or not Mr. La Meres ever rented out
these motel units as apartments to people who stayed a long time.
Mr. La Meres replied that they did not rent by the month since no one
stayed longer than two nights, except during tlie summer when people some-
times stayed for one week, taking tours of the area with this as a base,
but because the room rates were higher, as a rule, people on these package
tours stayed only two nights.
Commissioner Seymour noted that Mr. La Meres staced these statistics
represented his business, however, the brochiire stated the average stay
was 10.8 nights; whereupon Mr. La Meres stated that most people stayed
in the Disneyland area only two nights because of the hiqher prices for
rooms and then moved on to other areas of interest.
Commissioner Seymour then observed that if the ]S:sneyland area were
different because of the environment, maybe the statistics presented did
not hold up as they pertained to thE Disneyland area.
Mr. La Meres replied that he did not have any other figures on which to
base proof of his statements regarding adequacy of parking.
Commissioner Farano inquired whether a survey had been made for the
entire Easter week, since the "Spring Fl.ing" was considered for local
residents primarily.
Mr. La Meres indicated that he had guests from Burbank and nearby cities
who stayed overnight.
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VARIANCE NO. 2244 - The Commission further inquired why information for
(Continued) statistical purposes could not be obtained from the
registration; whereupon Mr. La Meres stated that he
felt a true and accurate repcrt could not be made
from the registration.
The Commission continued questioning Mr. La Meres zegarding the time the
heaviest arrivals were experienced; whether or not the vacant parking
areas could have been because people were still visiting the various
spots throughout the area; and why car registration on the motel regis-
tration cards could not be used to arrive at some supporting evidence.
Mr. La Meres replied that there could have be?n a number of vacant car
spaces because many people flew in during ~.aster vacation; that their
operation was a family-type operation and did not participate in "night
~ife" unless on a convention - this could be verified because the night-
clubs in the area were having a difficult time making ends meet; and
that although most registrations were filled out, not all were complete
with vehicle license numbers.
Commissioner Seymour noted he would like to channel his thinking along the
same lines as Mr. La Meres - however, h.e wasn't sure with the statistical
information provided that he could make such a decision, and although
staff had been requested to undertake a study of parking requirements,
this was not possible because of insufficient personnel time. Therefore,
if the petitioner, or even the mote~ industry in this area, could present
data that would substantiate statements made, this ~:ould be of great
assistance - how_ver, there was too much disparity between the present
~ data submitted and statements made by the petitioner since the data
" stated visitors stayed at one place, and the petitioner stated that the
`~{ visitors stayed only two nights in the Disneyland area.
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r:~i Commissioner Farano inquired how these visitors arrived in Anaheim;
'~ whereupon Mr. La Meres stated that a great deal of their business was
`~ from airline employees - that sometimes these people would stay in the
,~~ Disneyland area for ten days, which was indicated on the vacation brochure.
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Commissioner Seymour noted that the data submitted indicated that the
:<f average stay was ten days - however, Mr. La Meres was of the apinion that
~ these people did not stay in the Disneyland area for that length of time.
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',"rr Commissioner Kaywood noted that if these visitors went from one place to
;`:%j another, this would mean they would have to rent an automobile; whereupon
' Mr. La Meres stated that only about 22$ of the arrivals drove automobiles,
`` many arrived by bus and were transpo.rted by them to the various facilities
>; in the Disneyland area - however, some people even arrived from Los Angeles
:~ by cab.
Commissioner Allred then noted that the petitioner was requesting ~. 32+E
` waiver of the required parki.zg, and the petitioner also stated he managed
~';:~ three other motels - therefore, it made him wonder how many more motels
" would be requesting the same waiver; then one day the City would find the
automobiles were coming back and the motels would be in a predicament of
~; not being able to rent their rooms because of ±he inability to provide
_' parking for these automobiles.
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.::I Commissioner Kaywood then inquired whether or not it would be feasible for
the Motel Owners Association to get together and hire someone to prepare
'. statistical data which the Commission could review in order to determine
`' `; whether or not the requests aere warranted.
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'~` Commissioner Allred was of the opinion that since this was the second
r'.` request, and in all likelihood more would be coming in, it was the
responsibility of the motel operators to provide proof that more than
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VARIANCE NO. 2244 - adequate parkina was being provided, and the City's
(Continued) parking requirements should be amended.
Chairman Herbst observed that the City of Anaheim had
two seasons - thP vacation season and the convention season; that conven-
tioneers also arrived by air, and there might appear to Le too many parking
stalls, but having visited the Disneyland area and noting the number of
automobiles parked at the motels, it would appear there would not be
suf£icient parking stalls if the proposed waiver were granted. However,
it was up to the motel owner-operators to provide these parking facilities.
Furthermore, the latest traffic survey indiaated there was a greater number
of vehicles arriving i.n Anaheim than had been previously recorded, and the
request before the Commission to waive 32~ of the parking should represent
a hardship which the petitioner must prove, but if granted, it would appear
that the hardship would be on the City, not on the petitioner since people
would have to find their own off-street parking which apparently ;aas not
available in this area.
' Commissioner Allred noted that he weuld be willing to continue subject
petition to allow the petitioner ~_ime to obtain the necessary documentation
~' which the Commission needed to make a decisioa, and this should be sub-
stantiating statements made by the peti~ioner`that these Code-required
parking spaces were unnecessary.
Mr. La Meres answered by stating that the motel industry in the Disneyland
area had c•hanged completely, and there appeared to be no parking problem in
the summert';,,e because business was coming in primarily by air. However,
:; the motel business was saddled by the Parking Ordinance.
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~'y; Commissioner Seymour stated he would agree 100$ with Mr. La Meres if he
•~?i had submitted any data that would substantiate his statements - however,
j the data submitted did not verify this evidence, and that what some of the
fj Commissioners were requesting was for the motel industry to supply this
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~',:.,:;'.;f Commissioners Gauer and Farano again noted that the petitioner who had
-y; been granted the variance several years ago for a similar request had
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? documenting them to verify that he wouldghavelsufficientfparkingyspa~end
;'~ that there would be vacant parking spaces. Therefore, if one motel
' operator r,ould bring in this substantiating evidence and since the
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wuuld also have to submit this type of evidence, then in order not to
give the petitioner of subject property a privilege not enjoyed by others,
this corroborating evidenae would have to be submitted
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' Mr. La Meres advised the Commission that the Innkeepers Association did
not represent the majority of the motels; therefore, this organization
could not serve a~ a catalyst for documenting this iaformation. However,
no one took into consideration the fact that many visitors to Southern
California came from the eastern states and would not be arriving by
automobile.
Chairman Herbst noted that the Commission and the petitioner had expounded
at great lengths on this subject, and then inqui.red whether or not the
petitioner wanted the Commission's action today, or would he prefer a
continuance to allow time to gather this data.
t~ Mr. La Meres replied he would prefer a continuance since from statements
'.~' made by several of the Commissioners, it would a
:, of the petition as it now stood, and the motel ~ndustry~wouldWhaventoavor
r:~ ~ present evidence that would convince the City that a change had occurred
in the industry in oraer to allow them to capitalize on their investment,
the parking requirements would have to be amended.
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VARIANCE NO. 2244 - Commissioner Kaywood offered a motion to continue
(Continued) consideration of Variance No. 2244 to
~ ~ of May 17, 1971, to allow the the meeting
time to prepare documentation which1wouldssubstantiate
I statements made that there would be sufficient parkzng without re uirin
i the one space per unit. Commissioner Allred seconded the motion.q MOTION
CARRIED.
_ RECLASSIFICATION - CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING CHARLE
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NO. 70-71-35 1616 South Euclid Street.and CHARLESNANDRFRED~NK,
KOHLENBERGER, 1233 North Placentia Avenue, Anaheim,
VARIANCE NO. 2237 California, Owners; H.M.S. AIR CONDITIONING CORP.,
760 North Main Street, Orange, California, Agent;
of land having no streetefrontagerlocated•a An irregularly-shaped parcel
State College Boulevard and approximately 225rfeetanorthZof Placentia ~f
Avenue. Property presently classified R-A, AGRSCULTURAL, 20NE.
REQUESTED CLASSIFICATION: R-3, MULTIPLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, ZONE.
REQUESTED VARIANCE: WAIVER OF (1) MAXIMUM SUIT,DTNG HEIGHT, (Z) MINIMIIM
REQUIRED PARKING SPACES, (3) MINIMUM LAND AREA PER
DWELLING UiJ2T, AND (4) MINIMUM ACCESSWAY WIDTH TO
ESTABLISH A TWO-STORY, 30-UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX.
Subject petitions were continued from the meetings of March 8 and 22, and
April 5, 1971, to allow time for the petitions to be readvertised and for
the submission of an access agreement.
Assistant Zoning Supervisor Malcolm Slaughter reviewed the location of
subject property, .uses established in close proximity, and the proposal
as set forth in the Report to the Commission, noting that subject petitions
were continued from the April 5, 1971, meeting in order that the petitioners
would have time to resolve problems as to easement over property to the
west; that an official of the owner of that property had verbally stipulated
that the owner would not object to their propos`ed use of the easement; and
that the owners were working with the City Attorney's Office to prepare a
written agreement.
Mr. David Mayer, 6806 Titan Circle, Yorba Linda, developer of the proposed
apartment complex, appeared before the Commission and stated that they had
met with the City Attorney's Office and had resolved the easeme:it problem
with the UAW officials; that papers had been submitted last Friday to the
City Attorney; and that in addition to the easement drive, there would
also be a drive along the east ~roperty line.
Deputy City Attorney Frank Lowry advised the Commission he was not in the
office last Friday; therefore, Assistant City Attorney John Dawson might
have been working with the developer regarding the easement - whereupon
Mr. Mayer stated that Mr. Dawson had laid out the criteria necessary for
drafting this easement agreement, and this now had been submitted to UAw.
Mr. Lowry then ad~'.sed the Commission that it would be his recommendat3on
that if subject pe~:ition were approved, it be subject to the agreement
being approved by the City Attorney and should include all parcels which
would have access to the easement.
Mr. Slaughter then noted that at the first public hearing the developer
had agreed that the square footage per unit required by Code would be
complied with - therefore, this would mean approximately 26.25 units per
acre instead of the 28 units per acre stated.
Chairman Herbst noted that the petitioner would still need the variance
e~en if the number of units were reduced to 28,
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RECLASSIFICATION - No additional persons appeared in opposition to
NO. 70-71-35 subject petitions.
N • VARIANCE NO. 2237 THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
(Continued)
•• Commissioner Seymesr noted that since the property
to the east had been approved for R-3 zoning, it would be logical to
extend said zoninq for subject property since the developer was the same
for subject and abutting property to the east.
+~-: Chairman Herbst expressed concern that no precise plans had been submitted
ti;.~, :~~ for the portion fronting on Placentia Avenue, and it was quite possible
that a substandard R-3 development of the property could occur with the
additional waivers requested; therefore, he was opposed to secommending
;~ approval of R-3 for all the property while still holding out development
~:` , of a portion of the Kohlenberger property.
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Mr. Mayer advised the Comm3.ssion that there was a good prospect that this
property would be developed in the near future with eight to eleven units;
~; howEVer, he could convey an easement to this property for access so that
there would not be so many drive approaches to Placentia Avenue in the
event this property was developed as a separate parcel.
Commissioner Seymour offered Resolution No. PC71-65 and moved for its
passage and adoption to recommend to the City Council approval of Petition
for Reclassification No: 70-71-35, subject to conditions, with the added
condition that a vehicular access easement across thE property to the west,
permitting ingress and egress for all parcels included in this petition,
' he submitted and approved by the City Attorney's Office prior to issuance
,.i of a building permit. (See Resolution Book)
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j NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Herbst.
'~ ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS; Rowland.
;~ Further discussion was h.eld by the Commission regarding the variance,
'?,j • Commissioner Farano being of the opinion that since the entire parcel
could be develoged under R-3 standards, the portion being held out would
' have to be included if the variance were not granted.
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'~ Commissioner Seymour noted there were on~y two waivers, those being building
site area and off-street parking.
Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts advised the Commission that since the
petitioner had stipulated to developing only 28 units, the parking waiver
was no longer necessary.
Chairman Herbst inquired whethe~ or not the 28 units maximum stipulated to
by the petitioner would bring the developmcnt into conformance with Code
_ requirements of 1200 square feet of land per unit; whereupon Mr. Roberts
replied that in order to meet Code requirements, the number of units would
have to be reduced to 26 - therefore, the petitioner still would need this
waiver.
Commissioner Seymour noted that if 28 units were built, this would provide
1130 square feet of land per unit.
` ~ Commissioner Farano stated that the Commissio,i had given the petitioner,
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:;', develop the property in a manner to his benefit, and if a portion were
held out by one of the petitioners as a homestead or any other purpose,
this was their own decision. However, the Commission had done everythi:ty
~ it should so that a development could occur that would be complimentary
to the area and not create any burden on the City.
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'w_~~:, NO. 7U-71-35 and m~ved for its passage and adoption to deny
Petition for Variance No. 2237 on the basis that
VARIANCE NO. 2237 subject property was sufficiently large enough to
i'`, `i (Continued) be developed in accordance with Code requirements,
- and that the petitioner had not submitted pr.oof of
hardship ~hich the C~mmission could consider to
grant aaiver of the square footage of land per unit. (See Resolution
Book)
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On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Kaywood, Seymour.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
RECLASSIFICATION - CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING. HUGH D. AND LELA PROCTOR,
NO. 70-71-32 144'S South Anaheim Boulevard, Anaheim, California,
Owners; property described as: An irregularly-shaped
CONDITIONAL USE parcel of land having a frontage of approximately
PERMIT NO. 1223 192 feet on the west side of Anaheim Boulevard and
being located a~ the southwest corner of Anaheim
Boulevard and Midway Drive, and further described as
1445 South Anaheim Boulevard. Property presently
classified R-A, AGRICULTURA?„ ZONE.
REQUESTED CLASSIFICATION: C-1, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, ZONE.
REQUESTED CONDITIONAL USE: ESTAB7,,ISH AN EXISTING RESTAURANT WITA ON-SALE
LIQUOR AS A CONFORMING USE.
Subject petitions were continued from the meetings of February 22 and
March S, 1971, in ~rder to allow the attorney for the petitioners time
to resolve parking problems through the possible acquisition of additional
property located to the north.
Assistant Zoning Supervisor Malcolm Slaughter reviewed the location of
subject propzrty, uses established in close proximity, and the reason
for cor.t:Anuance of subject petitions, notinq that as of the date of the
report the pe4:3tioner had not been able to acquire the property to the
north for parking purposes. However, a parking design was submitted, and
give:~ the difficulty ''aced by the petitioner in acquirinq the property to
the noYth, if the Planning Commission felt the C-1 zoning was an appropri-
ate use, they might wish to consider`i•ecommending approval while at the
same time adding a condit3on requiring provision of Code-required parking
and development in accordance with the: C-1 site development standards
prior to the reading of the ordinance since there would be no building
permit under which these standards could be required.
Mr. Harry Knisely, attorney for the petitioners, appeared before the
Commission arid noted that little progress could be reported regarding
acquisition of the portion of the pxoperty to the noxth from the State -
however, use of this property dated back for approximately thirty years
when it was the main connection with Anaheim Boulevard and the State
highway; that no one was aware of the fact that this parcel did not belong
to the petitioners until subject petition was filed; and that although he
strongly supported the Zoning Ordinance, it was his feeling that there
would be no parking proulem since the parking situation was the same as
it had been for a r. °ber ci years, and the alternate parking plan submitted
would meet their r irement.
Chsirman Herb~t inquired of the attorney for the petitioner whether or not
they could comply with the site development standards of the C-1 Zone as
it pertained to landscaping, and if so, would the petitioner so stipulate.
as well as stipulating to providing parking in conformance with the C-1
standards if and when the property to the north was acquired, then tandem
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- parking spaces would be permitted for the present--
however, other means of gaining access to the parking
would have to be found in the event someone decided
to construct a wall along the north property line; and
thac the development of the property in accordance
with the C-1 site development standards pertaining to
landscaping would upgrade the appearance of the property.
Commissioner Gauer noted that the Commission had made a field inspection of
.,.= ~. the property this date to observe the number of cars p arked there an3 the
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No one appeared in opposition to subject petitions.
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Commissioner Gauer offered Resolution No. PC71-67 and moved for its passage
and adoption to recommend to the City Council approval of Petition for
Reclassification No. 70-71-32, subject to conditions, requiring landscaping
in accordance with the C-1 site development standards prior to reading of
the ordinance. (See Resolution Book)
Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts inquired of the Commission whether or
not the landscaping should be placed in the front setback; whereupon
Chairman Herbst noted that the petitioner would have to remove some of
the existing pavina in order to provide the necessary landscaping.
On roll call the foregoing res~lution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
Commissioner Allred offered Resolution No. PC71-68 and moved for its
passage and adoption to grant Petition for Conditional Use Permit No.
1223, subject to conditions, amending Condition No. 2, adding, "Providing,
however, that tandem parking may be provided along the north part of the
property, and the entire setback in front of the building shall be lan~t-
scaped and landscaping provided wherever the parking area abutted a street.
(See Resolution Book)
Chairman Herbst noted that in granting this petition approval of the waiver
of off-street parking, allowing ten tandem parking spaces along the north-
erly property line, shall not be construed as:_,granting approval to drive
across the adjoining property to utilize said parking spaces, and that '
this should be a finding in the granting of subject petition; whereupon ~
Commissioner Allred concurred with the amendment to the motion. ~
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Seymour.
NO:'S: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
RECLASSIFICATION -{g~HEARING) PUBLIC HEARING. INITIATED BY THE ANAHEIM
NO. 70-71-34 CITY PLANNING G~~MMISSION, 2(34 East Linco.ln Avenue,
Anaheim, Cal::surnia; proposing that property described
as: An irregularly-shaped parcel of land consisting
of approximately 437 acres bounded generally by Haster Street on the west,
Katella Avenue on the north, the Santa Ana River on the east, and Orangewocd
Avenue on the south, be reclassified from the M-1, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, C-1
AND C-2, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, C-3, HEAVY COMMERCIAL, AND R-A, AGRICULTORAL,
ZONES ;~o the C-k, '..:t+MMERCIAL-RECREATION, ZONE.
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RECLASSIFICATION - Assistant Zoning Supervisor Malcolm Slaughter reviewed
NO. 70-71-34 the location of subject property, uses established in
(Continued) close proximity, and the purpose of readvertising
subject petition after the Commission had taken action
at their March 8, 1971, public hearing, noting that
although the City Attorney's representative had advised the Commission
two major zones could be established on s,ibject property, the City Attorney
was of the opin3on that there were legal implications and that two major
zones could not be ,established on property as a resolution of intent by the
City unless so request:d by a petitioner. In addition, the Commission had
originally initiated subject petition based on the fact that the General
Plan projected subject property for commercial-recreatian uses due to the
development of the stadium and approval of Pacific World (The Orient), the
latter on 80 acres of property in tY,e heart of this area.
Chairman Herbst informed interested persons that at the last public hearing
? on subject petition the Commission felt they had resolved the zoning
problem for the area under consideration by recommending approval of C-R
1:. , zoning for the properties - however, the City Attorney determined that the
~ Commission would have to hold another public hearing since the action taken
was not considered legal.
Mrs. Margaret Haas, 1850 South Anaheim Boulevard, appeared before the
Commission and requested further cla.rification as to the purpose of the
rehearing since it was her understanding, as well as others attending the
_ March 8, 1971, r..zblic hearing, that the Commercial-Recreation Zone had been
approved for the property.
~„i Deputy City Attorney Frank Lowry advised interested persons that although
;,{ he had advised the Commission that it was correct to establish a.resolution
~ of intent for C-R zoning by the Commission, there were technical reasons
^ which made it legally impossible to establish a resolution of intent,
~ particularl where
;,1 Y properties had been developed within the confines of
~ the M-1 Zone, and the City could only establish a resolution of intent as
`•~<~ blanket zoning for properties where only an R-A 2one was on the property,
;i not the major ~ones presently existing on many of the properties.
1:,~ Mrs. Haas inquired whether or not the Commission wanted C-R zoning on the
~ property, and wasn't that their intent in the public hearing resolution.
~;~,j Mr. Lowry stated that this was what he had advised the Commission, but he
~.; was in error.
Mrs. Haas then inquired whether or not the zoning would apply to the
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~ Mr. Lowry stated that this was true - in additzon, for any R-A properties
in the area; however, where a major zone existed or where development had
occurred, two major zones could not be available for the property,
Chairman Herbst noted that Pacific World-The orient had a conditional use
permit approved to build their particular complex, even though it still was
, in the M-1 Zone; that there was no C-R zoning in the area since it was
primarily M-1, together with a few comiaet~ial parcels along Anaheim
Boulevard - however, the General Plan ^•:•oj~•cted the area under consideration
for future C-R uses, and it was felt th:ts overlay zone would accomplish
implementation of the General Plan proj~_ctions, but it would appear the
existing major zones would have to remain, and the Commission did not intend
; that these properties develop piecemeal for commercial-recreation uses,
; thereby creating spot zone effects.
Mrs. Haas inquired whether or not the existing zoning would remain on the
property.
Commissioner Farano noted that when the Commission contemplated establishing
C-R zoning for the properties, it was based an the fact that the Deputy City
t Attorney had advised the Commission that the various zoned properties could
remain as they were, and if someone owned M-1 properties and developed
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. RECLASSIFICATION - industrially and wanted to purchase land immediately
~ NO. 70-71-34 adjacent to them for expansion, they would be able to
(Continued) develop within the confines of the. existing zoning.
However, the adjoining property would be R-A, and
. based on the Deputy City Attorney's opinion, this
,, could be done, and at the same time, this could deve2cp for C-R uses,
however, this was not so. In zoning of property fr•am an existing major
zone it would have to be through filing of a petition by the property owner
and considered at a public hearing rather than establishing a resolution
of intent by the City, as was the Commission's inter:t.
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~ Mrs. Hass then noted that she had a possible sale for commercial-recreation
~>.'.;"~~'^ uses for her property, and the proposed zone would be to their advantage.
`~ Furthermore, there were other prop~rty owners who were not aware of the
z public hearing today and requested a continuance of subject petition until
`~ ~~ they had been fully apprised of what was now being considered. Furthermore,
as she understood the resolution of intent, this would permit someone to
~ develop as soor_ as an ordinance was read, rather than waiting approximately
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Discussion was held by the Commission on the alterhatives presented by
staff, whether or not it was necessary to have C-R zoning an the stadium
property, whether or not The Orient prcperty would develop, and whether or
not the Commission should continue consideration of subject petition until
other property owners were in attendance to present their viewpoints.
Mrs. Haas requested a four-week continuance so that other interested
persons could be present.
Mr. Ray Curran, representi.ng Orange Empire Heat Treating Company, 1000
East Katella Avenue, noted that if the Commission were planning to continue
subject petition for four weeks, he would request that all property owners
be so advised of this continuance.
Mr. Vincent Maiocco, owner o£ the Roadside itest Motel, 1836 South Anaheim
Boulevard, appeared before the Commission, noting that he was the new owner
of the motel, and he had not been advised of the proposed change in zone -
therefore, he would request a continuance so that he could further study
the implications of the proposal.
The r,ommission inquired when he had purchased the property since the
address list indicated a notice had been sent; whereupon Mr. Maiocco
stated he had purchased the property late last year.
The Commission Secretary advised the Commission that the assessor parcel
listing was a year old; therefore, the former owner had been sent a legal
notice.
Commissioner Seymour noted that if subject petition were continued, Mrs.
Haas and any of the property owners she was representing should contact
the staff or the City Attorney for any further information.
Commissioner Farano offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Seymour,
and MOTION CARRTED, to continue consideration of Petition for Reclassi-
fication No. 70-71-34 to the meeting of May 17, 1971, in order that more
property owners affected by the proposed reclassification could be present
to voice their opinions, and that the staff should notify all property
owners again. Furthermore, if any persons present at the public hearing
wanted further information, they could contact the Development Services
Department staff or the City Attorney's Office regarding the action taken
and the reason why it had to be reconsidered.
RECESS - Chairman Herbst declared a ten-minute recess at
4:10 P.M.
RECONV'~:NE - Chairman Herbst rec~nvened the meeting at 4:22 P.M.,
Commissioner Rowland being absent.
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CONDITIONAL USE - PUBLIC HEARING. MAGNOLIA BAPTIST CHURCH, 720 South
PERMIT N0. 1231 Magnolia Avenue, Anaheim, California, Owner; SID LEVEE,
c/o Maxwell Starkman & Associates, 8730 Wilshire
Boulevard, Beverly Hills, California, Agent; requesting
permission to EXPAND AN EXISTING CHURCH COMPLEX WITH WAIVER OF THE MINIMUM
REQUIRED FRONT YARD SETBACK on property described as: An irregularly-
shaped parcel of land havinq a frontage of approximately 463 feet on the
east side of Magnolia Avenue, extending atproxi.mately 510 feet easterly
to Velare Street, and being loca*_ed approximately 850 feet south of the
centerline of Orange Avenue, and further described as 720 South Magnolia
Avenue. Property presently classified R-A, AGRICULTURAL, ZONE.
Assistant 2oning Supervisor Malcolm Slaughter reviewed the location of
subject property, uses established in close proximity, and the proposal
to expand an existing church complex, requesting waiver of the required
25-foot front setback, proposing only a 24-foot setback - however, it
would appear that the plans could be shifted very easily so that this
waiver would not be necessary; that the primary consideration before the
Commission was one of land use and whether the proposed expanded use was
appropriate for the area since a previous conditional use permit approved
expansion along Velare Street, at which time the Commission required a
15-foot wide landscaped area with a 6-foot masonry wall to screen the
parking area, and if the Commission considered subject petition favorably,
it would appear desirable to continue this screening treatment along the
Velare Street frontage to enhance the appearance of the area. Furthermore,
the Commission might wish to determine whether 6-foot masonry walls should
be required along the property lines adjacent to the existing single-family
homes.
Mr. Sid Levee, architect and agent for the ~etitioner, appeared before the
Commission and, in response to Commission questioning, stated that the
1-foot waiver was not needed, and he would stipulate to meeting Code
requirement; however, th~re was one concern which the church had, and that
was the wall proposed by staff, noting that comments by the church regard-
ing staff's recummendation were in the report being presented to them cover-
ing screening the wall on Velare Street, the 6-foot masonry walls adjacent
to the single-family homes, and indicated the petitioner proposed to
convert the property on which a home presently existed - the northerly
parcel - on Velare Strcet since it was their intent to retain the home
for use for youth groups; that since it was anticipated acquiring addi-
tional property, namely, the parcel surrounded on three sides by the
church property, they were requesting posting of an improvement bond in
lieu of constructing the sidewalks, walls, and parkways until said property
was acquired; that the existing wall betweEn the church and the single-
family home on the north boundary was mutually satisfactory to the property
owner, who was the church's maintenance superintendent; and that the parking
area lighting, rather than requiring a 6-foot height limitation, be made
subject to the approval of a specific lighting plan. Furthermore, it was
the church's opinion that the street lighting fees had been paid for under
a previous petition.
`;' Commissioner Kaywood inquired why there was~no lands^aping on the Velare
Street frontage as was required under Conditional Use Permit No. 889, since
• ~_,p~ ~~ isited the property ,snd found none.
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':;' purposes, the street light and street tree fees were paid for the properties ~
~;,- previously considered - however, the charges proposed were for additional ;
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the existing parking area when the new structure was developed; whereupon
Mr. Levee replied that they woald lose some parking space - therefore,
~a rather than providing the general 6-foot high lighting, they would prefer
to present a lighting plan at such time as the new structure was developed.
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CONDITIONA.G USE - Commissioner Kayv;ood then inquired whether or not the
PERMIT NO. 1231 petitioner inten3ed to exercise the proposed R-3
(Continued) zoning existing on the property, or would the petitioner
stipulate to termination of the reclassification and
variance pending on the property; whereupon Mr. ~evee
stated that these petitions could be terminated since th~ church did not
intend to exercise the use approved under said petitions.
: No one appeared in opposition to subject petition.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
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~~~_.~°~.r. Chairman Herbst noted that attractive homes had been in existence for some
a time on the east side of Velare Street; therefore, he felt these single-
~ family homeowners should be given some protection from parishioners parking
in this new area by requiring a 6-foot masonry wall now, rather than the
~° posting of a bond.
' Mr. Slaughter then stated that if the etitioner
p planned to use the exist-
ing home with existing landscaping, the wall and 15-foot landscaping strip
~ could be required at such time as the existing home was removed.
Mr. Levee advised the Commission that they had a five-year program, and
the existinq home would be removed within five years.
~~ Mr. Roberts noted that if the plans progressed and development occurred
sooaer than the five-year program, these improvements should be provided
for at that time.
:';~ Commissioner Gauer offered Resolution No. PC71-69 and mc+ved for its passage
and adoption to grant Petition for Conditional Use .Permit No. 1231, delet-
ir.g waiver of the front setback since the petitioner stipulated to meeting
~ Code requirement, and subject to providing a lighting plan to the Develop-
ment Services Department for approval; that a 15-foot landscaped setback
and a 6-foot masonry wall to the rear of said setback be provided along
- Velare Street at such time as the existing house was removed and tMe
_~~.<I property was developed for parki.ng or some other use, or within five years,
,,t whichever occurred first; and that a 6-foot masonry woll be provided along
~ the northerly property line adjacent to the parcel surrounded by subject
`~ property or that a bond be posted to guarantee said wall construction,
;'.i and subjec* to conditions. (See Resolution Book)
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y;a~ On roll call the foregoing resolution was passe3 by the following vote:
,-~r AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
s,~. ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
Commissioner Kaywood offere~ Resolution No. PC71-70 and moved for its
passage and adoption to recammend to the City Council that Petition for
Reclassification No. 64-65-57 be terminated on the basis that the peti-
~ tioner no longer planned to exercise th
e rivile e of R-
P 3 3 zoning for the
property. (See Resolution Book)
~' On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
,,; AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
I ABSENTc COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
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Commis_ioner i:aywood offered Resolution No. PC71-71 and moved for its
= passage and adoption to recommend to the City Council that Petition for
~ Variance No. 1671 be terminated on the basis that the petitioner no longer
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Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
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~ NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
' ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
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CONDITIONAL USE - PUBLIC HEARING. ZION EVANGELICAL LUTH~RAN CHURCH,
PERMIT NO. 1232 118 North Emily Street, Anaheim, California, Owner;
' ARTHUR W, GRAY, JR., 914 West Lincoln Avenue, Anahei.m,
, California, Agent; requesting permission to USE AN
EXISTING CHURCH COMPLEX AS A PRIVATE HIGH SCHOOL WITH kAIVER OF MINIMUM
REQUTRED PARKING SPACES on property described as: An irregularly-shaped
parcel of land having a frontage of approximately 240 feet on the south
side of Chartres Street, having a maximum depth of appraximately 120 feet,
with frontages of approximately 80 feet on the west si&e of Philadelphia
-.~Y,,. Street and 120 feet on the east side of Emily Street, and further described
as 118 North Emily Street. Property presently classified C-2, GENERAL
,~"`=°~~ COMMERCIAL, ZONE.
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- ` subject property, uses established in close proximity, and the proposal
~~, to establish a private high school for the Lutheran High School Nssociation
+ in the existing church complex; that the petitioner indicated that nnly
~ ninth graders would be using the site for the 1971-72 school
~ year, w:tl,.
ninth and tenth graders using the site in the 1972-73 school year; that
~` the petitioner also indicated they intended to move the entire sch~oa
into a new facility in the fall of 1973; that Code required one off-,street
parking space for each ten seats in the high school or auditorium; that
no seating plans for the proposed use had been submitted - however, the
agent for the petit?oner indicated that a maximum of 70 students was
anticipated during the 1971-')2 school year and a maximum of 140 studEnts
during the 1972-73 school year, and based upon the 1972-73 school year
enrollment, a total of 15 on-site parking spaces would be required.
Therefore, the Planning Commission would have to determine whether the
~~ proposed use would have any adverse impact upon the surrounding area and
; whether there was any justification to waiving the parking requirements
so as not to require any on-site parking.
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-I Mr. Arthur Gray, agent for the petitior.•r, appeared before the Commission
and stated he had been a member of the ~hurch for the past fifteen years
and also a member of the Orange County Lutheran High School Association;
that for over ten years he has been directly involved with the church
expansion program when they obtained eight acres across the street from
'~? their parochial grade school and presently had the new church under.
y construction, investing over one million dollars for land a^_;: imprcvements;
=r.~! that for over a year they had been attempting to sell the church a~u: Y~a~i
..~ but had no offers for its purchase; that the Orange County Luthera~; High
School owned 13 acres in the City of Orange and planned to build ttxe high
,;?;~ school in two years, wnen all pledges had been paid off; that since the
~ church building would be empty in July, the high school approached them
for use of the property to begin junior high school in September, 1971,
with the ninth grade having 60 to 70 students; that the High School
Association was a non-profit association owned and operated by twenty
.' churches in Orange County and two in Los Angeles County; that there were
four churches in Anaheim, three of which had their own parochial grade
, schools; that this high school woiild be an extension of the Lutheran
parochial school system in Orange County; that use of the church facilities
would not make an ideal high school facility - however, after having
analyzed the facilities, it was determined that the parish hall could be
utilized for eight usable classrooms since it was originally built for
school purposes, and, therefore, the basic school site would be the parish
hall which had a lunch room, kitchen, office space, and a gymnasium; and
that the church building would 'ue used only for assembly purposes, with
the old parsonage building which had been used for an office building for
the past twelve years used for the office of the principal of the high
' school.
Mr. Gray then reviewed the uses surrounding subjec~ property, noting that
the public parking lot formerly belonged to the church but had been sold
to the City for less than market price with the understanding that the
church could use the parking lot, if needed; that it was their intent to
' operate the high school at this location for only two years because the
higher grades required more sophisticated classrooms, such as laboratories,
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CON7TTIONAL USE - etc. ; that the principal of th~_ ~r, ~osed high sci:•:~ol
PERMIT NU. 1232 indicated he would have two f'~11::~-tf•nA; permar~ent
(Continued) teachers besides himself, w~~.:t ~r;~ aC~ult teachers
to teach specia:~.ized rlass~.e, s;icc'~ as band, art, etc. ,
which wou:d r.c~. bR on a f!:IL-t!me ~asis, and they
would not Le there ~t the same cime - theref.r,r~~,, h~,~t: the two Fermanent
teachers, one prir.cfna~.i, an3 a secretary, +~nl.;~ four full-t.tmP spaces
would be needed, lea:*i*~; ~wo spaces fcr vi sit:~:xs and on days when
spe~ialized teachers w,.re teaching there; tha~. +`_hey would be unable to
provide any additional parking on-si~e; and th~at. the church -nad been
there for the past forty years under the same c'Crcumstances - theref~xe,
it was h3's orinion that waiver of th,= required parking for a short time
use coul/x be made since no parking wi~uld be needed for the students.
1~4~. Gray noted, in reviewing the re,::atnmended conditions of ~,pproval, that
the parish hall in +::hich the cla:+se.s would be held was compu:;atively new -•
therefor~, there would be no pro!~lem in meeting the Uniforrnliuilding Co3e,
a,~d that the church itself would be used on:y on rare occa~aions for_
as:iembly, similar to church service, naw being held in a c:Yiurch.
Commissiones Seymour inq~iired wheti?er or. not the two-year gexi.,d maxiir,s~
was from this date or from t:~e beginning of the school year; whereupon
Mr. Gray replied that the church would nat be moving to the new locat?.on
until July, and classes were planned fo:r September of 1971 - therefo~e,
it would be through the 1972-73 school year.
2oning Supervisor Charles Roberts noted for the Cortuu~35ion t.hat the
requirement of complying with the Uniforrn Baii~.•:;: ~,,g Co3e ?vas necessitated
by the fact that the buildings wouid be used f~ar school puzpc~ses.
Commissioner Farar.o then stated chat the Commis~sion would nut have the
power to waive th~~ building cod.re requir?:nents.
Mr. D. H. Var. Meter, 201 Narth Emily SL;-pet, appeared before ~he Commission
in oppositi~~n ~~~~ waiver of the reque'.r~d ,ar~rking, noting he o:vr,e~l a six-unit
apartment b•aildi~g ~~ tie northwe~t ^orne~ of Emily and Chartse.~ S.`ree~s;
that he cou~cl no. ..,; any •reason 2.~;c an~~ther nigh school since there were
fifteen public 'uni~r high scl~~ools and six public senior high schools;
that there was :~ considerable parking problem in this area now, and his
tenants' guests sometir,i~s parked several blocks away; that he realized
the church had the riglit to park in the City parking lot - however, nar.k~ng
for a school was c:ifferent becz~use this wou)d be on a daily basis simi~ar
to the hours o£ business for which this parking lot was establi=;hed whi:e
the church asage was p•rimarily a:: night or on Sunday.
Commissioner Faran_ i,~quired whethe.r or not Mr. Van Meter would be opposed
to the petition if the oetitioner stinulated to having •,o more than six
cars at one time on th~e premises, which would not necessitate any additional
parking.
Mr. Var, Met~r r~_•- '.ied that he ;aould have no opposition to the •~rai~<.r of
the parking in that instzince; nowever, there was s further consid~ratioi:
and that was bussing the chfidren to school - wheze would this bus be
parked?
Cha~.rman Herbst noted tihat if there were a npzd for any additional parking,
the petitioner could obtai~~ parking space from the City parki.ng lot by
payment of a monthly parking fee.
Mr. Van Meter st,sted that t~e dia not want the streets cluttered with any
more automobiles, ~nd iP he ^c~uld be assured ::here would be no need for
more parking at any oiae t.imeth.an the six proposed, he would withdraw his
opposition.
Mrs. Georgia Cummings, repesenting the Cris Bus?ness College, 112 North
Emily Street, ap~eared before thie Cammission and i:ated she was a long-
term ~ess~ee of the buiiding and represer:ced the pro~:erty owner, as well;
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CONDITIONAL USE - that the church had not been a
PERMIT NO. 1232 in the area since their meetin sroblem to the parking
(Continued) Sunday or at ni ht g 4enerally were on
many children drivingutotschool,aitlwouldhcertainly
create a parking problem - therefore, she was ooposed
to waiver of the parking requirement. However, if the petitioner stated
their needs were for only six parking 5paces, why was the waiver necessary?
The Commission advised the opposition that there were specific requirements
g the type of school proposed, and calculation per square foot would
i_cate that fifteen parking spaces would be required.
Mrs. Cummings further noted that when the Aome Savings & Loan Association
was located in •the area, they had an agreement to use their parking spa.ces,
however, since they had relocated, the parkinq area had been taken over by
a private individual who charged a fee for parking; and that she would have
no opposi~ion to the proposed use so long as the parking problem was
resolved.
Chairman Herbst inquired by what method of transportation would the school
childrer. arrive a,ad depart; whereupon Mr. Gray stated that they would be
transported by the9.r parents the same way the parochial school children
arrived and departed.
Chair.:nan Herbst taen inquired whether or not the petitioner would stipulate
to providing additional parking by private means if the parking require-
ments were more than six ~paces as they proposed; whereupon Mr. Gray
stip~lated that thay would provide additional parking if needed.
Commissioner Farano offered Resolution No. PC71-72 and moved for its pa~saqe
and adoption to grant Petition, for Conditio:ial Use Permit No. 1232, waivinq
the required number of pa.rking spaces since the petitioner stipulated to
providing adequate o~f-street parking should the six on-site parking spaces
prove insufficieat, and that the petitioner had stipulated to terminating
the use on or before January 1, 1974, and subject to connitions. (See
;tesolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was pa~sed bp the following vote:
AY;S: COMMISSIONERS; A17.red, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Seymour.
NG3S: COMMISSIONERS; None.
A235ENT: COMMISSION~RS; Rowland.
CONDITIO*;iiL USE - PliBLIC HEARING. P,F,iVE AND N,ARY r
PE'DLiIT 2J0. 1~33 Stre~t, Portervil2.e, California~ nwAersR~Walt ~isney
Productions, 1313 South Harbor Souievard, Ai~ah~im,
Calirornia, Age ,t; requesting permi.ssi.or~ to ESTABLISH
A CARWASH IN CONJUNCTION WITH A PROP75F,D SERVICE STATIUN A1~~D CAR CARr,
CENTER on property described as: A rectangularly-shaped parcel of. land
locate3 at the northeast corner ~f Katella Avenue an~ West St:.reet, having
approximate froii;:ages of 245 feet on K•~,te11a Aver~ue and 215 feei on West
Street. Property presently ciassified P.-F, A~RYCU'LTURAY,, ZONE.
Assistant Zoning Supervisor Malcolm Slaughter revi~wed the location of
subject property, uses established in close proximity, and the proposal
to establish a carwash in con;unce~ion with a proposed service station and
car care center sonth of the llisneyland pc..rking lot; that it was the
applicant s intent to service cars while guests visited the Disneyland
Park; that the applica,:t should be advised that the Anaheim Municipal Code
limited the noise level to 60 decibels at the property li:~e; and that the
Planning Commission would have to determi.ne whetl:er the proposed use was
appropriate for the area.
Chairman Herb>t noted that a service ~tation was permitted by right in
the Comi;iercial-Recreatior~ Zune, and that the consideration before the
Commission ~vas a cdrwash in addition to the proposed service station.
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CONDITIONAL USE - Mr. Jack Lindquist, ~epresenting Walt Disney Productions,
PERMIT NO. 1233 agent for the petitioner, appear~d before the Commission
(Continued) and 3tated that the carwash facility was designed and
proposed in conjunction with a car care center primarily
to serve guests in Disneyland; that it was the intent
of walt Disney Productions to operate this facility as part of their opera-
tion in cooperation with Gulf Oil Company; and that it was the3.r belief
thia pr~posed operation would bring the same type of rapport ~rith the City
that had• existed in the past.
" Chairman Herbst noted that some time ago a plan had been presented for an
~` interior service station at the park and inquired whether or not this was
-~ that original plan.
Mr. Lindquist replied that there was a service area within the park, but
`$ this served only their own vehicles.
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': Mr. Slaughter advised the Commission that Walt Disney Productions was
working with the Gulf Oil Corporation for a service station site at Cerritos
1 Avenue - however, this project was not in the final ~tage at this time.
Mr. F. E. Pacheco, Director of Engineering and Construct?.on for Gulf Oil
Corporation, 1801 Avenue of the Stars, Los Angeles, appeared before the
Commission and noted that the caswash would be totally enclosed and
completely automatic and was a totally new concept which was a necessary
adjunct to a service statioxt, and that there would be minor tune-ups.
Mr. Pacheco, in reply to Commission questioninq, stated that the carwash
cycle was a two-minute one.
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i Mr. Howard Thompson, 1801 Avenue of the Stars, Los Angeles, also from Gulf
'j Oil Corporation, appeared before the Commissioi, and noted that although
=i the hearing was t~ consider the carwash additiu~, he would like to explain
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' something about the car care service proposed; *_hat when thex started r~n
this project they were instructed to design something that was superi :
'i in service and design to anything existing in Southern California; there-
>~`f fore, this would be a quality development. Then the colored ren~.ring
was reviewec~ by Mr. Thompson as to the type of service that was propc~sed
`°?~ and the location of the car care center which would have bays opening to
the rear of the propert,y, noting that because the carwash fa.cilitp was
:,~ completely enclosed, they would maintain a low noise level.
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~'~ Commissioner Seymour inquired whether or not the
petitioner could meet
Code signing requirements and received an affirmative reply.
- Chairman Herbst inquired whether or not there would be adequate parkinq -
if people became familiar with this type of service proposed, the car
could be left on the premises all day.
`~~ Mr. Thompson replit:d that there would be no on-site parking since the
`":~b vehicle would be taken back to the Disneyland qeneral parking area after
4. it had been servictd. Furthermore, this would not be a metal building
_ as most service stations were, but would k~e of brick, masonry, glass, and
anodized aluminum.
',;'.^, Commissioner Faxano inquired as to the hours of operation.
Mr. Pacheco advised the Commission that the hours of operation would be
similar to the Disneyland hours of operation - however, the carwash
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~^ Chairman Herbst noted that his only concern would be the whin. .• noise
- from a carwash operation which could be very disruptive to the _est of
~~`'- the guests at moteis, even though the Code permitted a maximum of 60
decibels. Furthermore, the rendering presented was evidence that the
' oil companies could design far superior facilities than had been constructed
;1;, in the past, and this could set a precedent for more attractive service
station sites.
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CONDITIONAL USE - Commissioner Seymour noted that the zoning which
PERMIT NO. 1233 approved the Disne~land parking l~t required screen
(Continued) landscaping; therefore, he would suggest that this
. be extended, and inquired whether or not the
petitioner would stipulate to providing additianal
'. screen landscapinq; whereupon representatives of both Disneyland and
Gult Oil Corporation stipulated to providing screen landscaping.
Commissioner Seymour offered Resolution No. PC71-73 and moved for its
passage and adoption to grant Petition for Conditional Use Permit No.
- 1233, subject to conditions, and the stipulation by tne petitioner that
'~~~ screen landscaping would be provided as an extension of the llisn~:.yland
o` +•;,~ parking area. (See Resolution Book)
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~.. +' On roll aall the foreg.ing resolution was passed by the following vote:
- ?,YES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Sevmour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None. ~
.~ ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
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CONDITIONAL USE - PUBLIC HEARING. KILROY INDUSTRIES, 626 Wilshire
PERMIT N0. 1234 Boulevard, Los Angeles, California, Owner; CURTIS
YOUNG, c/o Coldwell, Banker & Company, 2333 North
Broadway, Santa Ana, California, Agent; requestinq
permission to ESTABLISH A TECHNICAL SCHOOL WITH WAIVER OF MINIMUM
REQUIRED PARKING SPACES on property described as: An irregularly-shaped
parcel of land consisting of approximately 1.5 acres located on the east
side of Claudina Place, approximately 400 feet north of the cen•terxine
~ of Ball Road, and further descr.ibed as 1100-D Claudina Place. Property
;~~ pr~asently class~fied M-1, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, ZONE.
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':I Assistant Zoning Supervisor Malcolm Slaughter reviewed the location of
subject property, uses established in close proximity, and the proposal
to utilize 8,000 square feet of an existing industrial building as a
trade school to train game wardens, wa.ter control technicians, industrial
pollution technicians, and conservationists; that although the industrial
ri, zone permitted industrial training centers as a matter of right, a non-
;~ industrial training school would require approval of a conditional use
permit; and that the petitioner was proposing a total of 230 parking
spaces for three industrial buildings located on the site, while Code
would require a total of 290 parking spaces. In addition, the Commission
would have to determine whether or not the proposed use would have an
aRverse impact upon the area and whether there was sufficient justification
for waiver uf the parking of the n:sgnitude requested. Therefore, if the
Commission determined the use appropriate, a time limitation on the use
' could be established so that it might be reviewed in the future for
: , compatibility.
Mr. Curtis Young, agent for the petitioner, appeared before the Commission
7 and noted that the tenant proposed for this facility was the National
School of Conservation and Ecology owned by the National School System;
that this school previously functioned as a correspondence school, however,
- they now planned to have a resident school with students coming from
California and surrounding states; that the school woul~d be foz males only;
<i~~ that one of the considerations by the proposed school oi`ficials was the
`i location of adequate ho~ising for the students, and this was made
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by the apartment development to the north; and tkat approximately 808 of
the students would be living in apartments, with the balance of the students
being boarded out.
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"~ term would be six months and that the site was Eormerly used by another
school so that the classroom facilities were already in the building.
Chairman Herbst noted that staff had expressed concern regarding the large
Z amount of parking shortage and inquired whether or not the petitioner would
be in a position t~ supply additional parking after the City reviewed the
site at the end o; one year and determined that the parking was inadequate.
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CONDITIONAL USE - Mr. Leslia, representing the National School System,
PERMIT NO. 123~ appeared before the Commission and stated they would
~Continued) ~ have to investigate the area to find other parking
since the site could not supply additional parking
at this time; that they had designed the facility
for 150 students, however, most of these students would be arriving from
out of town and would live in apartr:~nts adjacent ta the school - there-
fore, there would be little need for an automobile for transportation.
Mr. Leslie, in response to Commis~ion questionin~, stated that they had
another school in Inglewood, and from experience at that site, those wk:.,
did not live cl.ose to the school had car pools, lnd that there would be
~ eight instructo~:s and r~hree administrative personnel.
Mr. Slaughter noted that the parking waiver would apply to the entire
site since Code would require one parking space per student, and if some
of the parking spaces of other faci.lities were utilized, this could
affect the development of the adjoining property.
Mr. Young noted that there would be warehousing use of the balance of
the building.
Chairman Herbst noted that the number os parkiny spaces for student parking
needed was greater than normaY wa.rehousing requirements.
Mr. Young ~-eplied that a previous use of the warehousing facility in this
complex had only one man and one truck, and, general'ly speaking, there
would be no parking problem, and that the space in the building s~ras
originally designed and adapted for school use. Furthermose, there was a
five-year lease, w3th K;.lroy industries having a lease for half of that
time and the balance would revert to the original owner.
Commissioner Farano expressed concern that a waiver was being requested
while the Commission did not know what would be estabiished in the vacant
portions of the other buildings; the•refore, there was grave doubt that
this waiver should be granted.
Mr. Slaughter noted that staff would have to analyze very carefully any
future use proposed for these buildings to make sure that warehausing
only would be permitted in these buildings since the school would use
one-half of the parking spaces.
Mr. Young noted that Mr. Leslie had stated that if additional parking
spaces were needed, they would acc;uire additi~nal property for sazd
parking.
Commissioner Allred inquirea whether or not the petitioner would stipuJ.ate
to providing additional parking if at the end of one year a review of the
property would indicate a shortage of parking space for this complex;
whereupon Mr. Leslie stipulated to providing additional parking if
requested at the end of the year by the City.
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Commissioner Allred offered Resolution No. PC71-74 and moved for its
passage and adoption to grant Pe~~ition for Conditional Use Permit No.
1234, granting waiver of parking on the basis that the petitioner
stipulated to providing additional off-street parking if, after one year,
a field inspection by the City would reveal a shortage of parking spaces,
and subject to conditions. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the f~regoing resolution wa, passed by the follow=.ng vote:
AYES: CONIKISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Seymour.
NOES: COMY4ISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
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VARIANCE NO. 2247 - PUBLIC HEARING. LUCIO O. AND ESTHER D. MUNO'L, 416 i
North Sabina Street, Anaheim, California, Owners;
requesting WAIVER OF PERMITTED USES TO PERMIT A
BEAUTY SALON IN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME on property described as: A ~
rectangularly-shaped parcel of land having a frontage of approximately ~
7~ feet on the east side of Sabina Street, having a maximum depth of
approximately 48.23 feet, and being located approximately 117 feet south ~
of the centerline of Sycamore Street, and further described as 416 North
Sabina Street. Property presently classified R-3, MULTIPLE-FAMILY ,
RESIDENTIAL, ZONE.
,.,-'; Assistant Zoning Supervisor Malcolm Slaughter reviewed the location of
~'1''';~~ , subject property, uses established in close proximity, and the request
to convert a room in a single-family home for a oae-chair beauty salon
having access to the outside from a new door to be constructed; that the
,~ Planning Commission would wish to determine whether the proposed use
would be appropriate in this location or whether it might have an adverse
' ef£ect upon the area; and that if the Commission determined the request
appropriate, a time limitation might be considered for the use.
Mrs. Esther Munoz, one of the petitioners, appeared before ti~e t;ommission
and stated she needed to establish a beauty salon in her home to take
care of four children and a disabled husband; that it had worked a hard-
shiF• on her family having to work outside of the home; that if she could
work in her home, she would have better control over her children; and
that there would be no parking problem.
Mrs. Munoz, in r.eply to Commission questioning, stated that she would need
' tliis use for approximately three years, and then at the request of the
' Commission, stipulated tio the time limitation of three years and to the
':;i operation of a one-chair beauty salon.
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.j a time limitation was set at the time of granting of the petition since
-:~ the petitioner could sell the home and a commercial enterprise could be
; j developed in a residential area.
~j The Commission also inquired wh~ether or not the petitioner intended to
'~ sign the property; whereupon Mrs. Munoz stated no signing was necessary
"' since she already hdd her customers.
'~y No one appeared in opposition to subject petition.
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passage and adoption to grant Petition for Variance No. 2247 for a
`; period of thrae years for a one-chair, owner-operated beauty salon with-
;;. out any signiny, as stipulated to by the oetitioner, and subject to
conditions. (See Resolution Book)
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NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
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VARIANCE NO. 2250 - PUBLIC HEARIIQG. DOYLE & SHIELDS REALTY COMPANY,
-;' '; P. O. Box 386, Westminster, California, Owner;
EBS TAX SERVICE, 934 ~a~ith Euclid Street, Anaheim,
California, Agent; requesting WAIVERS OF (1) Mi;:IMIIM DISTANCE BETWEEN
SIGNS A13D (2) FREE-STAHDING SIGN LOCATION TO PERMIT AN ADDITIONAL FREE-
STANDING SIGN on property described as: A regularly-shaped parcel of
land consisting of approximately 2 acres, having a frontage of approxi-
i, mately 343 feet on the east side of Euclid Street, having a maximum depth
of approximately 267 feet, and being located approximately 197 feet north
of the centerline of Sall Road, and fur*_her described as 934 South Euclid
, Street. Property presently classified C-1, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, ZONE.
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VARIANCE NO. 2250 - Assistant Zoning Supervisor Malcolm Slaughter reviewed
(Continued) the location of subject property, uses established in
close proximity, previous zoning actions on the
property, sign requests considered by the Commission
and City Council, and the proposal of the applicant to establish a 15-
square foot, free-standing sign 43 feet north of the existing Spires sign
and 208 feet south of the Maanay~,, sign on subject property, whereas Code
woulcl require a minimum of 300 feet between eacn of these signs; that
the Code would require that the sign be located within the center 208, or
a minimum of 120 feet away from any adjoining property - however, the
sign was proposed to be located within 43 feet of the side property line.
Therefore, the primary question before the Commission was whether there
was justificati~on for approval of this variance, and the Commission would
have to determitte whether there was a hardship inherent in the property
which deprived this property, not the individual shop owner, a right
enjoyed by other psoperties in the area since the Sign Ordii:ance estab-
lished a maximum amount of signing to which any property was entitled,
and the allocation of that sign area to the various uses in the commercial
center was a matter of contract between the property owner and his tenants.
However, if the owner allowed one tenant to use up all of the permitted
signing, it would appe.ar that it was not the responsibility of the govern-
ing agency to see that additional signs or sign area were made available
to other tenants.
No one appeared to r~pr,e~~nt the petitioner.
Mr. Sam Magid, 724 Nort'~h Elm Street, Los Angeles, appeared before the
Commission and noted thaC he owned commercial property in this general
area; that when these commercial areas were built, it was required of
them to be built 300 8eet in from the property line, and trying to see
these establishments when t.he public drove by was almost impossible;
that he realized that the City could not permit signing every 50 feet,
but there should be some type of system of perhaps every 75 feet, taith
one standard sign so that these people would not have an anonymous business;
that business conditions were very poor, and these people needed some
manner of advertising - therefore, if subject property were subdivided
and the petitioner had a 50-foot frontage, even though the sign would be
located only 30 feet from another sign, he would be permitted this
signing.
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shopping center more attractive with integrated signing. ~
Chairman Herbst noted that the signs on Harbor Boulevaz3 were every 50 i
feet, and while driving down the street one could never read the signs - .'
therefore, this was the reason for the Code requiring shopping centers
to have integrated signs so that people in need of services in the
shopping center could know what was being offered, and where an integrated
shopping center sign was developed, this shopping center appeared to be
more successful.
Mr. Magid inquired whether or not the existing integrated sign could be
increased to permit additional signing; whereupon Commissioner Allred
stated that the Commission would prefer seeing one inteqrated sign rather
than numerous signs.
Mr. Slaughter noted that when the Commission granted the previous variance
to establish the Magnavox sign, together with the Sleep Shop sign, he
was allowed to have any names on the sign, but he elected to put only
two tenants on the sign - therefore, he had created his own hardship. ~
Furthermore, the height of the sign would be governed by the adjacent
residential uses.
Commissioner Farano offered a motion to deny Petition for Variance No.
2250 on the basis that the petitioner had not established a hardship
existed.
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VARIANCE NO. 2250 - Prior to taking a vote, Zoning Superv.isor Charles
(Continued) Roberts noted that the petitioner, in all likelihood,
would appeal this action to the City Council, and
rather than having action taken by the City Council,
the Commission might wish to continue subject petition to the evening
session while staff attempted to contact the agent for the petitioner
regarding an appearance before the Commission to answer questions.
Commissioner Farano withdrew his motion of denial and stated that action
should be taken when the evening session started, after staff had
contacted the aqent for the petitioner.
RECESS - Chairman Herbst declared a recess to adjourn for
dinner at 5:40 P.M.
RECONVENE - Chairman Herbst reconvened the meeting at 7:30 P.M.,
all Commissioners being present.
VARIANCE NO. 2250 - 2oning Supervisor Charles Roberts advised the
(Continued) Commission that he had contacted the agent for the
petitioner regarding apgearance before the Commission
at the evening session; however, he had been advised
that the petitioner requested a two-week continuance.
Commissioner Allred offered a motion to continue consideration of Petition
for Variance No. 2250 to the meecing of May 3, 1971, as requested by the
petitioner. Commissioner Gauer seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED.
RECLASSIFICATION - PUBLIC HEARING. MASAMI OGATA AND JOHN WEBER, 1095
NO. 70-71-44 North Main Street, Suite S, Orange, California, Owners;
LEONARD SMITH, 125 South Ciaudina Street, Anaheim,
VARIANCE NO. 2248 California, Agent; property described as: A rectangu-
larly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately
3 acres, having a frontage of approximately 264 feet
on the south side of Ball Road, having a maximum depth of approximately
607 feet, and being located approximately 800 feet west of the centerline
of Magnolia Avenue. Property presently classified R-A, AGRICULTURAL, 20NE.
REQUESTED CLASSIFICATION: R-3, MULTIPLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, ZONE.
REQUESTED VARIANCE: WAIVERS OF (1) MINIMUM REQUIRED DWELLING UNIT FLOOR
AREA, (2) MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT WITHIN 150 FEET
OF A SINGLE-FAMILY ZONE, AND (3) MINIMUM REQUIRED
SIDE YARDS, TO ESTABLISIi A 110-UNIT APARTMENT
COMPLEX.
Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts reviewed the location of sub;~ct property,
uses established in close proximity, existing zoning, and ti~e proposal to
establish a 110-unit, one and two-story apartment complex, noting that thc
site development standards of the R-3 Zone required a minimum floor area
of 700 square feet, ~+hereas 12 of the units were nroposed with 550 square
feet, these being bachelor-type units and was approximately 108 of the
total number of units proposed; that waiver of the minimum building height
within 150 feet of single-family zoned properties to the east and west
adjacent to R-A zoned properties would appear to be technical since R-3
zoning had been approved on the parcel to th,e west and the General Plan
indicated medium-density designation for this area - therefore, the zoning
would appear to be appropziate. HowPVer, two-story construction was
proposed within 74 feet of the R-1 p.~perties to the south, located in the
City of Stanton, but the City of Stanton required only a 50-foot setback
for two-story apartment construction, and a similar request had been
approved on the parcel to the west - therefore, the Commission would have
to determine whether or not the most recent request was considered
appropriate.
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71-218
RECLASSIFICATION - Mr. William Phelps, 1095 North Main Street, Orange,
NO. 70-71-44 designer of the prouose3 project, appeared before
the Commission and noted that the waivers requested
VARIANCE NO. 2248 were technical to a degree, particularly as they
(Continued) pertained to the 150-foot height limitation adjacent
to the R-1 properties in the City uf Stanton since
the City of Stanton required only a 50-foot limitation;
and that the distance between buildings was within courts and not between
buildings.
A letter of opposition was read to the Commission.
No one appeared in oppasition to subject petitions.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Mr. Roberts noted that this project was similar to the one approved to
the west in terms of design and waivers requested.
Commissioner Seymour noted that this particular piece of property merited
R-3 zoning since R=3 zoning had been granted for the property to the west,
and the entire area on the General Plan was designated for medium-density
residential use; that the waiver of the minimum square footage for dwelling
units had been waived in the past, provided that only 10$ of the units
were proposed for bachelor units; and that since the City of Stanton
required only a 50-foot distance between two-story apartment construction
and sinqle-family homes and a similar waiver had been granted in the past,
it appeared this waiver seemed to be justified. Furthermore, as noted in
the letter of opposition, the matter of subject property being in the path
o£ the proposed Beach Freeway might pose a question, but to require a
property owner to retain his property in a vacant stage for ten or fifteen
years until the freeway was constructed was also imprac~tical.
Commissioner Seymour offered Resolution iJo. PC71-76 and moved for its
passage and adoption to recommend to the City Council that Petition for
Reclassification No. 70-71-44 be approved, subject to conditions. (See
Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
Commissioner Seymour offered Resolution No. PC71-77 and moved for its
passage and adoption to grant Petition for Variance No. 2248, based on
findings as previously stated and subject to conditions. (See Resolution
Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Ka}~wood.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
-~ RECLASSIFICATION - PUHLIC HEARING. ATLANTIC MOTdRS CO., INC., H. R.
NO. 70-71-43 Mc Neil, President, 325 'South Atlantic Boulevard,
Los Angeles, California, Owner; DONALD F. BUHLER AND
.. M. L. BOWER, 4001 Birch Street, Newport Beach,
California, Agents; requesting that property described as: An irregularly-
shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 3.4 acres, having a
- frontage of approximately 90 feet on the south side of Broadway, having a
maximi±m depth of approximately 644 feet, and being located approximately
991 feet east of the centerline of Loara Street, be reclassified from the
t R-A, AGRICULTURAL, ZONE to the R-3, MULTIPLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, ZONE.
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71-219
.. RECI~ASSIFICATION - Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts reviewed the
NO. 70-71-43 ].ocation of subje~} property, uses established in
_ • (Continued) r•„lose proximity, previous zoninq action on the
property, and the proposal to establish R-3 zoning
on the property; that the area was designated for
medium-density development on the General Plan - therefore, the requested
',. I zaning would appear to be appropriate; that no plans of dev
been preserated, aad the applicant would be required to developpinnaccord-
ance with the standards of the R-3 Zone should this zoning be approved.
Howeve2, the Interdepartmental Committee, after reviewing this proposal
'~~,;^ `- in light of the adjoining properties and their anticipated land use,
;;~e. were of the opinion that some type of street circulation should ba
~' provided - one possibility would be to extend a street southerly from
.:; Broadway along the westerly property line of subject property, then
,~' running westerly along the northerly line of the school
Loara Street, thus providing both north-south and east-westPaccess~for
- the anticipated units, and in view of this, the Planning Commission might
wish to undert•ake an area development plan study to determine whether
such circulation was necessary and appropriate. Furthermore, if the
.~ Commission were of the opinion that a study should be underta'ken, subject
petition could be continued in order that it mighr_ be heard in conjunction
with the area development plan.
Chairman Herbst inquired whether or not the petitioner understood the
staff's recommendation as to providing~a circulation plan and further
inquired whether or~not a special time element was involved since the
F~tit"ioner had not submitted~plans with the application, and only zoning
was being requested. Furthermore, before he would consider approving
ti R-3 zoning for subject property, he would have to see some plans of
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,i t~r. Don Buhler, one of the agents for the ~,etitioner, appeared before the
~ Commission and stated that they did have plans for development and could
submit them to the Commission at the hearinq.
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the plans to determine whether any waivers were nacessary prior to
consideration by the Planning C~mmission.
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;•~ scheduled for the next public hearing, he would recommend that a four-
h week continuance be considered for subject petition in order that staff
,•., .! might review the plans in detail, as well as consider an area development
plan.
- Commissioner Gauer stated that some consideration should be given to the
property being held out s.ince it was a very irregular parcel, and if it
ever came in for a rezoning request, it would have similar problems to
the one heard earlier in the afternoon by the Commission wherein a portion
was proposed to be held out without any zoning. Furthermore, it was his
feeling that an area development plan should be considered by the Planning
. Commission in conjunction with any plans of development for the property.
~ Commissioner Kaywood offered a motion to continue consideration of
i Petition for Reclassification No. 70-71-43 to the meeting of May 17,
;:, 1971, in order that staff might prepare an area development plan and to
~~ review development plans proposed by the petitioner. Commissioner Gauer
seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED.
~"" RECLASSIFICATION - PUBLIC HEARING. HUB CITY CONSTRUCTION CO., 12053
~, . NO. 70-71-45 Paramount Boulevard, Downey, ~a3.ifor,nia, Owner;
VARIANCE NO. 2249 Suite S, OrangeR Californ~.aioAgentrtpropertytreet,
described as: An 3.rregularly-shaped parcel of land
Z consisting of approximately 3 acres, having a frontage
of approximately 900 feet on the n.orth side of II,a Palma Avenue, having a
maximum depth of approxi.mateY~ 23O feEt, and being located opposite the
terminus of Fronter~ St.seg~. a.*. La Palma Avenue. Property presently
~ classified R-A, AGR3CULTURAL, 20NE.
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RECLASSIFICATION - REQUESTED CLASSIFICATION: R-3, MULTIPLE-FAMILY
N0. 70-71-45 RESIDENTIAL, ZONE.
VARIANCE NO. 2249 REQUESTED VARIANCE: WAIVER OF MINIMUM REQUIRED
(Continued) DISTANCE BETWEEN BUILDINGS, TO
PERMIT A 90-UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX.
2oning Supervisor Charles Roberts reviewed the location of subject
property, uses established in close proximity, and the proposal to
establish a 90-unit, two-story apartment complex having access over a
700-foot long, private accessway; that the variance was necessitated by
the irregular configuration of the proposed structures which were
governed by the irregular shape of the property; that the General Plan
projected subject property for commercial land uses - therefore, the
primary consideration before the Commission was whether or not the
property was appropriate for medium-density land use given the proximity
of the freeway right-of-way which made this property less desirable for
residential uses and more appropriate for commercial uses. Furthermore,
if the Commission determined that the land use would be appropriate, then
the question was whether the requested variance was justified, and in view
of the irregular shape of the property, the variance might not be
unreasonable.
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'' Mr. William Phelps, representing the ayent for the petitioner, appeared
;M before the Commission and indicated he was available to answer questions.
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;~ Chairman Herbst inquired whether or not the developer had taken into
~~, consideration the possible widening of La Palma Avenue in developing the
plans before the Commission since this was not indicated; whereupon
~i Mr. Phelps replied that the 53-Poot half-width for La Palma Avenue was
taken into consideration.
~ Chairman Herbst further inquired whether or not a slope analysis had
_~ been made, and if the street were widened, this would increase the slope;
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whereupon Mr. Phelps replied that this was covered by him in conference
with the Road and Traffic De ar
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p s of the City; that this was a very
difficult parcel left by the State after the freeway was constructed, and
the man who purchased this property realized that it would be very diffi-
cult to overcome a 20Q-foot total depth; that the property owner had
<~ inherited the problem on the property as it presently existed; that a
;'~;;k large apartment complex nearby did very well in their development adjacent
to the freeway; and that the waiver between buildings was, in essence,
~.~ a corridor rather than space between buildings.
Chairman Herbst noted that subject property was completely surrounded by
freeways and roadways, and the question in his mind was the establishment
of a residential use which would certainly leave a lot to be desired from
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having visited the property a number of times there appeared not to be a
great noise problem since the roads were either above or below the pro-
posed development.
~'~+ Commissioner Seymour inquired whether or not the property owner had
purchased th~e p,~operty from the City; whereupon Mr. Phelps replied that
it had been ~urchased from the State; that the State had created a very
-i, difficult pa:rcel which the City of Anaheim inherited; and that the man
'r; ~i who purchased it also had a difficult piece of property, although he knew
+'ei this would be a difficult piece of property to develop.
Chairman Herbst noted that the property was located in a hole, and all
that would }a~e visible would be the roofline of the apartment complex and
the slopes.
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'. RECLASSIFICATION - Mr. Phelps replied that this would be a flat roof
NO. 70-71-45 with semi-mansard e£fect to reduce the roofline,
making it softer in appearance.
VARIANCE NO. 2249
- (Continued) Commissioner Seymour noted he appreciated the fact
that apartments would bring the greatest return, but
. he would find it difficult to approve apartments for
this property and inquired whether or not the owner had given some thought
to developing a miniature golf course.
Mr. Phelps replied that the owner was an old friend who had come to him
.-~:: because he had designed many apartments in Anaheim; that any recreational
_~'~'`; use would have just about as manp drawbacks as an apartment use; that the
r - appearance of daylight for this parcel was from only one direction which
~~ would make it very difficult for use as a recreational facility - however,
~ he had not discuss~d this with the pet~+ioner. Then, in response to
' questioning by Commissioner Farano, Mr. Phelps stated that i:hey had only
! planned the residential use, alt•hou+gh th,ey had talked about a commercial
use, but any commercial use of siz,e would fill the "eye" completely, and
they did not pursue the commerciai use beyond the £irst stage of their
~ discussion.
Eiqht persons indicated their presence Tn oppo~sition to subject petitions.
Mr. John Hoppert, 518 North Chantilly Avenue. appearesl befo~•e the Commission
noting his property was just south of the proposed site; that he had resided
in this area for about a year, having moved there for th~e obvious reason
that this was a clean, residential area; that Anaheim was a city with a
fine residential atmosphere, good ~parks, and schools; Chat the thought of
having a multiple-family development so close to single-family residential
uses was inconceivable; that there 'vrould be insuffioient area for parking
~'~ for guests, anc~ these people would be parking on Chanf•illy Avenue; and that
he would not want his children, who werz both u~nder six years of age, to
have to face multiple-fam_ly residential trs~.ffic.
Mr. Robert White, 533 Chantillp Avenue, noted h.is home was the first one
° people came to who were involved in a wreck on t_he freeway and roads in
'~. this area to telephone for help, and he would cr~ncur with the statement
made by Mr. Hoppert that this would add to the +:raffic problem to this
'~ area, creating congestion at this intersection.
°;,n Mr. Phelps, in rebuttal, noted that the commercial traffic generated more
':?~ traffic than a residential use, and small children would have to cross a
very heavily traveled speedway to get to a commercial use; that when
,,~~;~ he discussed the traffic flow early in the design stage with the Traffic
_''? Engineer, the Traffic Engineer asked that he design the development so
~% that traffic would not ~be geared to Chantilly Avenue; that the apartment,
as such, should be considered one building; that the actual appearance
of the apartment would not affect the single-family homes because of the
existence of the roads; that as a designer, apartment development for
subject property would be much more acceptable than a small commercial
' shopping center; that he would agree that La Palma Avenue needed widening
% and development cvould add an appearance to the area rather than detract
•= fr~m the area; that he was sure no one would be parking on Chantilly Avenue
in the residential area because it was too far away; and that they met
; ,;;' Code requirements as they pertained to parking.
Commissioner Allred, in reviewing the plans, noted that four apartments
i' were located only 12 feet from the Orange Freeway, and he could not see
the logic in having people living in apartments down in that "hole" since
~s, ;~ one would be subjecting these people to some of the highest noise e2ements,
' and that he was very much concerned with the environmental living quality
~' of the area, particularly with the on-ramp noises.
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Chairman Herbst noted that in some instances where right-of-way was taken
from homes adjacent to on-ramps, this was done after development of the
apartments or homes had occurred - however, the Commission had never
_, approved a new development that was as close as the one proposed.
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RECLASSIFICATION - Commissioner Seym~ur noted that the use proposed was
NO. 70-71-45 wrong and suggested that a different type of use be
considered for the area since he could not see placing
VARIANCE NO. 2249 people in that area and subjecting them to an undesir-
(Continued) able living environment.
Mr. Phelps replied that before they ever started any
designing, he had visited the site several times, and they had presented
a similar design ;:o the City of Garden Grove and had answered these same
questions; that the desian was not undesirable; and that the Hirsch
property in Santa Ana oft Bristol Street did aot find any difficulty in
their location.
Chairman Herbst noted rhat w~.th the size of the units and being only 12
feet from the freeway, this w?s mos~ undesizable; however, the designer
had done an adequate design job with the lo~cation, but the question before
the Commission was whether or not this wa:e an environment which the
Commission wanted residents of the city to be subjected to, particularly
the noise factor which ::ould resound throughout the area because of the
freeway and roads, and the only thing he could see this turning into was
a slum with low residential units because he had never seen any property
quite surrounded by roads and freeways as this property was.
Mr. Roberts, in response to Commission questioning, stated that if another
use were to be considered, it would have to be readvertised, and if this
were not to be considered, then the Commission had two other choices,
either approve or deny the petitions, but if it was the Planning Commission's
desire to encourage the property owner to consider somethinq else, these
platts could be presented to the staff who then could readvertise these
petitions.
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",:'`;; could still come in requesting that the Commission consider his original
'~ request - then the Commission could act upon it by recommending whatever
they wanted to the City Council.
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petitioner, appeared before the Commission and noted that when subject
propertp was purchased by them, they had negotiated for a restaurant and
motel aFter having talked with representatives of the City on what would
be acceptable for the property - however, after the Orange Freeway and
overpass of the freeway were constructed, it was their opinion that it
would be impossible to ha:~e a commercial use for the property because of
the difficLlty in havir.g access from the freeway and heavily travelled
roads, and this migltt create problems in the residential area with motorists
taking the wrong turn; that several automobile ag~~cies had looked at
the property also, but they felt that only one acc:~ss would be insufficient
for commercial uses; that after viewing the property developed to the
south, adjacent to the Orange Freeway, it was their opinion that they
had only one choice, and that was developing it for apartmer.ts si.nce it
would be a monumental p,-.oblem for cammercial traffic to gain access to
the property, and that apartments would cause less problems and less congestion
than anything they could think of. Furthermore, none of the commercial
prospects felt this was a desirable spot.
Commissioner Kaywood inquired whether or not the petitioner felt this
would be a good living environment for himself.
Mr. Scott replied that when they purchased the property they had been
informed that a motel or restauraat could be built on the property.
Commis~ioner Kaywood then inquired whether the petitioner would chose to
live in this type of environment - would he feel this was a desirable
living environment for anyone?
Mr. Scott replied thati he did not feel it would be detrimental to the
City, and the noise factor would not be any greater than any other area.
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RECLASSIFICATION - Commissioner Kaywood noted that it was one thing to
NO. 70-71-45 have a situation where an area was developed with
homes or apartments and another thing where oaie would
VARIANCE NO. 2249 qo into an arPa knowing full well this would be a
(Continued} difficult area to be successful, and with all these
factors to consider, it woul~ appear that this would
not be a good living environment for people; and that
she would have to vote "no" if approval was proposed.
Commissioner Gauer observed that the State had left many pieces of property
__~~_ that were undevelopable, and to permit people to build on a left-over
,.. piece, particularly with apartments, was undesirable; and that the State
•,, had done a great disservice to the cities by leaving these small parcels,
"` ' selling them to private parties, thereby creating more problems for the
cities in which these parcels were located.
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' Mr. Scott was of the opinion that apartment development would be better
than commercial development located in the center of apartments and homes.
Chairman Aerbst observed that the opinion of the majority of the Commission
~ was that it was not a good living environment for residential uses, and he
- would not vote for a residential use for this property. However, he would
n~t want to say what zoning would be appropriate since he felt design
plans should be considered before any zoning could be approved, even
though a property owner had the right to request any zoning he desired.
The Commission appeared to be of the opinion that the use proposed, beinq
surrounded by hiqh traffic, was not the proper zoning for the property.
In addition, he felt this would turn into a ghetto with a poorer class of
people residing there.
": r1r. Scott stated that other apartments had been approved adjacent to the
~ Orange Freeway; whereupon Chairman Herbst noted that these other apartments
~ were provided with garages adjacent to the freeway right-of-way which
7 effectively blocked noisec from the freeway traffic.
~ Mr. Scott, in response to Cotnmission questioning, statied that he would~
; like a four-week continuance to review alternatives for subject property.
~~_~ Commissioner Allred offered a motion to continue consideration of Petitions
; for Reclassification No. 70-71-45 and Variance No. 2249 to the meeting of
May 17, 1971, to allow the petitioner time to consider an alternate use for
.the property. Commissioner Kaywood seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED.
~' RECLASSIFICATION - PUBLIC HEARING. INITIATED BY THE CITY PLANNING
``~ NO. 70-71-46 ,. COMMISSION, 204 East Lincoln Avenue, Anaheim,
California; proposing that property described as:
RECLASSZFICATION Eight areas in the unincorporated portion of Orange
NO. 70-71-47 County iocated as follows: Area I- bounded by
Orange Street on the aorth, blue Gum Street on the
;~ west, La Palma Avenue on the south and Kraemer Boulevard
on the east; Area II - bounded on the north by La Palma Avenue, on the east
,' by Kraemer Boulevard, on the south by the Riversi.de Freewaf and extending
. westerly approximately 3,000 feet from Kraemer Boulevard; Area III -
bounded by Anaheim Lake on the west, Oranqethorpe Avenue on the north,
Jefferson Street on the east, and Miralom3 Avenue on the south; Area 24' -
;; east side of Lakeview Avenue, south of the flood control channel and
~~ extending southerly approximately 900 feet therefrom; Area V- east side
of Lakeview Avenue, the southerly boundary being approximately 700 feet
north of La Palma Avenue; Area VI - bounded by the Santa Ana River on the
south, Fee Ana Street an the west, a line 400 feet north of and parallel
to La Palma Avenue and extending approximately 1,500 feet east of Lakeview
_ Avenue; Area VII - north of the Santa Ana River, south of Orangethorpe
Avenue, approximately 1~500 feet west of imperiai Highway; and Area vtll -
north of the Santa Ana River, south of La Palma Avenue, approximately 300
feet west of Imperial Highway, be reclassified from the County of Orange
~ M1 and 100-M1-20,000 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL u2STRICT to the CITY OF ANAHEIM
R-A, AGRICULTURAL, 20NE for Reclassification No. 70-71-46 and to the
M-1, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, ZONE for Reclassification No. 70-71-47.
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RRC~,ASSIFICATION - Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts reviewed the
NO. 70-71-46 location of subject property, existing zoning, and
the proposal to establish City of Anaheim zoning
RECLASSIFICATION under Reclassification No. 70-71-46 at such time
NO. 70-71-47 as the properties were annexed into the city since
(Continued) these properties were within the sphare of influence
of the City of Anaheim, and establish a resolution
of intent to M--1 after said parcels were in the City
of Anaheim, thereby expediting reclassification procedure permitting
property owners to meet the conditions of the resolution of intent to
have an urdinance read rather than having additional public hearings.
Mrs. Carrie Coykendall., 15332 East La Palma Avenue, appeared before the
Commission and stated that she did not understand the reason for the two
legal notices and inquired whether or not the City was planning to annex
these properties into the cit.y,
Mr. Roberts noted that there was no intent to annex these properties into
the city, but when property owners were ready to be annexed into ttie city,
their property would havp the proper zoning established on the property
with a resolution of intent awaiting completion of conditions for zoning
the property to M-1, and this would alleviate the problem of spending
four to five months with public hearings after annexatiori took place.
Thus, when any proparty was annexed into the city, the M-1 ordinance
would be available for anyone who was ready to develop the property.by
meeting the conditions of the resolution of intent.
Chairman Herbst noted that the proposed reclassifi~ations would be of
assistance to the property owners in the•event tney wanted to develop
their properties much more speedily than they could if this zoning action
were not on the property; that these parcels were within the sphere of
influence of the City of Anaheim, and when developed, would be serviced
by the City of Anaheim; that the action being taken now by the Commission
would eliminate any further public hearings when and if property owners
desired to develop their properties for industrial uses. Aotiever, he
wished to assure all property owners that it was not the City's intent
to annex these properties until the property owners so desired, but it
was only providing a tool for these property owners at such time as they
werF~ ready to annex to the city.
Mr. J. J. Black, 2815 Coronado Street, appeared before the Commission
and requested an explanation of what was meant by "amendment to Title 18".
Mr. Roberts noted that amendment to Title 18 established a change of zone
on properties not currently covered by Title lII.
Mr. Black noted that it was his opinion his property was already zoned
M-1; whereupon Chairman Herbst noted that all property owners within -
300 feet of property under consideration had been sent a legal notice
advising them of the Commission's consideration.
No one appeared in opposition to subject petitions.
Mrs. Coykendall asked whether or not she c~uld still use her property for
agricultural purposes and whether or not she had to be annexed into the
City of Anaheim; whereupon the Commission assured her that so long as she
was desirous of remaining in the County and using her property for
agricultural purpose~, there would be no intent of the City to annex her
property.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Kaywood offered Resolution No. PC71-78 and moved for its
passage and adoption to recommend to the City Council tha~ Petition for
Reclassification No. 70-71-46 bc: approved, subject to conditions. (See
Resolution Book)
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- RECLASSIFICATSON - On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by
,::~. NO. 70-71-46 the folloaing vote:
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ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland. ~,
Commissioner Allred offered Resolution No. PC71-79 and moved for its
~~:,''- passage and adoption to recommend to the City Council that Petition for ~
,yr_~-~'~~ Reclassification No. 70-71-47 be approved, subject to conditions. (See
~:~~~;x Resolution Book)
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i;~,~',i;~ NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
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71-226
REPORTS AND - ITEM N0. 1
RECOMMENDATIONS Consideration of revised plzns for Reclassification
No, 70-71-37 and Variance No. 2241 (Toussau property
located on the east side of Sunkist Street, approxi-
mately 200 feet north of Ball Road).
Zoning Supervisor Charles ltoberts presented to the Planning Commission
revised plans for Reclassification No. 70-71-37 and Variance No. 2241,
noting that at the March 22 public hearing the Commission had considered
the aforementioned reclassification for property located on the northeast
corner of Ball Road and Sunkist Street wherein 157 R-3 apartment units
were proposed, at which time the Commission had recommended denial by a
vote of four to three; that ±he dev~lopers had revised their plans,
trying to incorporate some of the ideas of concern of the Commission and
were now providing a 10-foot buffer strip along the east property line
adjacent to tbe R-1 propertics in addition to a 10-foot strip along the
north property line and had relocated carports so that they would be
within 200 feet of the units lthey were to serve. However, the type of
carports originally proposed was still a waiver that was requested.
Mr. Roberts then noted that subject petitions would be considered by the
City Council on April 20, 1971 - however, the developer was desirous of
determining whether or not the Commission would have approved subject
petitions based upun the site plans now before them. Furthermore, the
density t~as now reduced from 23.8 to 22,7 units per net acre.
Chairman Herbst noted that the surrounding area had changed sufficiently
to warrant a change from low density as he personally feJ.t; however, if
R-3 were approved and development occurred, it was his opinion that an
adequate buffer landscape strip would have to be provided to protect the
existing R-1 homes ;vhich liad been establishe3 for some time adjacent to
subject property; that he had stated at the last public hearing he would
not again vote for an apartment development which would provide a 20-foot
wall adjacent to single-family properties because this presented a very
unsightly appearance to the single-family homes and created a hardship by
not giving these single-family homes the needed environmental protection;
that after viewing the R-2-5000 on the west side of Sunkist Street, a:hich
had a 20-foot wall in the rear yards adjacent to the R-3, he was more
convinced t}ian ever that the City shouid never again approve this type of
svironment but should provide a minimum 20-foot landscape buffer strip,
or, as an alternative, developing a tier of R-1 homes in coniunction with
the apartments - therefore, anyone purchasing these homes would be fully
aware of the fact that apartments were adjacent to these homes, whereas
this was not true as it pertained to the single-family homes already
developed to the north; and that in four other instiances the Planning
Commission had required either a 20-foot landscrxpe strip or the tier of
homes to separate the multiple-family use from the single-family use.
Furthermore, there appeared only one change of any importance to hxm,
which was the fact that the developer was now proposing only a 10-foot
landscape strip adjacent to the east - therefore, this plan did not meet
the criteria under which he would consider R-3 favorably, as previously
stated.
Commissioner Allred noted that he would concur in Chairman Herbst's
statements since he favored the R-3 zoning at the last public hearing.
However, he also felt that it was necessary to establish a minimum
20-foot landscape buffer strip between the R-3 and the R-1 uses, and if the
developer would agree to provide this, there was no doubt that others of
the Commission might change their minds since the plans presented were a
very attractive multipl~-family development.
Mr. Larry Matzick, representing Ponderosa Homes_, appeared before
the Commission and stated that the criticism~made by the Commission was
well taken, but he could not commit himself to the 20-foot landscape
strip since they would have to contact the property owner to re-negotiate
the purchase price since they would be unable to achieve a density for
which the price of the land was negotiated originally; and that they would
have to attempt ±o have an answer in time for the City Council public
hearing.
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REPORTS AND
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Chairman Herbst noted that since the General Plan prsjected low-medium
density, and the proposed development did not meet this criteria, he
~ could not see where a loss ~as being taken, and that although apartments
: ~ were built across the street, the same developer had built the homes and
the apartments.
Commissioner Seymour inquired of Mr. Matzick whether he saw anything tha*_
~`~' ~ was desirable about a 10-foot concrete wall adjacent to the R-2-5000
r,;;,'~,. ~ across the street.
~ ' Mr. Matzick replied that the Code gave no specific criteria on what a
.~; buffer strip should be, and they were proposing an open appearance with
open-type carports 8 feet high, together with a 10-foot landscape strip
-' which would be enjoyed by both the tenants of the apartments and the
R-1, said strip could be used as a small picnic area for the apartment
tenants.
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provide a tier of si.ngle-family homes adjacent to the north and east
property lines in lieu of the 20-foot landscape strip - then people who
,: purchased the homes would be fully aware of the fact that apartments
a were adjacent to them. Whereupon, Mr. Matzick replied negatively.
Commissioner Gauer noted that since the Planning Commission had taken an
;:, action of denial, the Commission had no right to review the plans which
; had been changed to such a small degree.
~'~ Commissioner Seymour noted his personal feelings were summed up very
;~ adequately at the last public hearing which were due to the fact that
~; there were changes in the area, it was desirable to grant a more intense
~ use of the land for apartments, but he, too, felt that adequate buffering
,' should be provided, and if this could not be accomplished, then the
Commission shoull consider either R-2 or single-family development for
~:~ the property. Therefore, he would suggest that the petitioner either
:' provide the landscape buffer or a tier of single-family homes, thereby
the developer of the multiple-family development would build in taeir own
buffer as had been required on three or four other reclassification
'`;`{ proceedings where R-3 abutted R-1.
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Commissioner Farano noted that the Commission could not take any further
~`.,~,~ action on the plans; however, three of the Commissioners would stipulate
that they would approve the plans only if a minimum 20-foot landscape
strip were provided.
Mr. Roberts noted for the Commission that one of the things the developer
was seeking was to know a little more in detail some of the reasoning of
the Commission's denial of the petitions since there was some question as
to whether the petitions were denied based upon the R-3 zoning - the site
p2an - or the waivers requested.
~" Commissioner Farano then noted that since he had made the motion for
denial, there had been some discussion since the General Plan designated
'``:~ this for low-medium density, and he had made an attempt to research the
- reasoning for that, but he was not sure what transpired, but from his
recollection, this property was supposed to have been designated low
;`, density, and the Commission, in reviewing the facts for this particular
~. r area, reached the con,r,lusion that certain developments in the area
~x;,. warranted a different density. Furthermore, the Planning Commission and
City Council in recogn:izing this change by approving R-1 for the property
~~^ and also approved a variance reducing the lot size to 6000 square feet; that
it appeared to him that the Commission on a five-to-one basis was in
favor of the increased density, but he did not feel there was sufficient
,'~ showings presented that would convince him that there was that much of a
change in the area to grant this since the Planning Commission denied the
R-3 on the west side of Sunkist Street, and after the Commission and
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REPORTS AND
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• City Council denied the R-3 for subject property, a request for R-1 with
• 6000 square foot lots was considered favorably by both these bodies only
a few months later. Therefore, if the Commission desired this to be
multiple-family residential uses, then the density shoul•? comply with
the density designated on the General Plan, which oras a maximum of 18
_ units per net acre, not the 22.7 units proposed.
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this would effectively reduce the density to about the 18 units per acre.
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considerably closer than presently proposed.
Commissioner Farano then stated that if this were developed with a
20-feot buffer strip and density reduced to 18 units per acre, he could
~ support the proposed development.
Commissioner Seymour stated that it was important that the Commission~s
feelings be conveyed to the City Council; that the Commission was not
only concerned with the density proposed but was also providing a very
much needed 20-foot buffer strip, something which the Commission had
required in the past on at least four other occasions, that being
adequate protection for single-family homes.
Chairman Herbst, at the conclusion of the discussion, noted that the
Commission could not recommend anything to the City Council - however,
'{ it was the opinion of the Commission that if the density of the project
'• were reduced to approximately 18 units per acre and a minimum 20-foot.
~~ wide landscape buffer strip ivith sufficient dense landscaping was
_j planted along the north and east property lines, providing adequate
'`~ protection from noises, fumes, etc., for the single-family homes, the
`;~j Commission would have recommended approval of Reclassification No.
:~:y 70-71-37 and Variance No. 2241.
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''. AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood,
i Seymour.
`~ ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
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SCENIC CORRIDOR OVERLAY ZONE - Consideration of
~ revisio,is suggested by the City Attorney and the
~ Development Services Department to the action
originally taken by the Planning Commission.
~ Associate Planner pon McDaniel noted for the Commission that their bod
had submitted their recommendations to the City Council on the Scenic Y
f , Corridor Overlay Zone; that on March 30, 1971, the City Council considered
the proposed zone, however, in order to "iron out" some legal and enforce-
ment problems, the City Council requested staff and the Commission to
reconsider the Scenic Corridor Overlay Zone as proposed - therefore, the
staff, working in eoncex'j['with the City Attorney's Office and the Public
~i~ Works Department, had revised the proposal in respect to this request.
;f-. In reviewing the changes, Mr. McDaniel stated that many of ttie items that
~ :" had been covered previously in the Zoning Ordinance were now proposed to
~ r- be included in the Subdivision Ordinance - such as 'sndscaping, windbreak
j replacement, and setbacks which had been transferred to Title 17, and, as
such, would apply to subdivisions of land throughout the city, whether or
not hillside. Thus, by placing more emphasis on the Subdivision Ordinance
, `t and Iess on the Zoning Ordinance, this would allow for a reduction in the
' area encompassed by the Scenic Corridor, and the new b~undaries would be
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REPORTS AND
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the Newport-Riverside Freeway intersection on the west, the AT~SF Railroad
. on the north, the Orange Coutity line on the east, and a line one-half mile
. south of Santa Ana Canyon Road on the south. Furthermore, the new proposal
would eliminate the Development Review Committee since the present procedure
of reviewing development plans was considered to be sufficiently thorough
to accomplish the desir~d results.
~~- Commissioner Gauer inquired whether interested persons present were aware
of the change in the corridor boundaries and asked that the new boundaries
~~~` `-~ be delineated on the map; whereupon Mr. McDaniel indicated that the
original boundaries were from ridgeline to ridgeline for the north-south
~ boundaries, and the new boundaries would be approximately two and one-half
miles at its widest point and one to one and one-half miles at its narrowest
point - however, most of the portion between the ridgelines would still be
governed by the Subdivision Ordinance pertaining to hillside grading, etc.,
~ therefore, the same rules would apply that were formerly in the zoning
.~ portion of the (SC) Zone; that concern had been expressed that the view
. from the freeway would not be any different than any other freeway in the
County, but the liveability of tlie dwelling units could be less desirable,
than if reqe.ired to have some buffer strip. Furthermore, staff was
satisfied that the reorganization of the (SC) proposal was still in accord
with the Planning Commission recommendations of a few months ago; that the
same thing which the Commission was desirous of having would be attained
and would still be palatable to the property owners and developers; and
that it would be more enforceable and on a more stable legal basis.
~ Mr. Ray Spehar, 913 Paloma Place, Fullerton, requested an interpretation
'``' of the requirements in the commercial zone as they pertained to a service
`; station - since he had two service station sites, one would be within a
~ shopping center site while the other, at the opposite corner, would be
~ developed together with a restaurant or dinner house and motel - would
-,j those both service stations be permitted, cr only o~e under the new
~ regulations?
i •~ Mr. McDaniel noted that the Spehar property was at the northeast and
~ southeast corners of Imperial Highway and the extension of La Palma Avenue,
and it would be his interpretation that the service station within the
.:i shopping center would be suitable and so would the other be suitable for
<::.~ the other corner, but because the Code required the approval of a condi-
tional use permit when a service station site was within 75 feet of
residential uses, this service station would not be permitted by right.
Furthermore, it would be questionable whether the size of the lot of only
- 135 feet would be suitable since the intent of the Code was not to allow
a service station as a free-standing usc., but that it should be integrated
with the motel and restaurant - however, the service station still would
be subject to approval of a conditional use permit.
Assistant Development Services Director Ronald Thompson inquired whether
or not Mr. Spehar had other comments on the balance of the proposed changes;
.. whereupon bfr. Spehar stated he did not have any comments since he had not
~ read the amendments.
~ Mr. Harvey Berger, 2858 Stromboli Road, Costa Mesa, appeared bafore the
+ Commission and stated he had received a copy of the proposed Scenic
Corridor changes and had reviewed them - however, there were a number of
' items which appeared to be objectionable before and had been deleted; that
~: some had been changed and made more restrictive, namely, under the original
_ proposal, the setback on a secondary highway where lots backed up, parti-
cularly R-2-5000 lots near La Palma Avenue and Esperanza Road, wherein a
50-foot setback was required or where a decorative wall was proposed, only
a 40-foot setback, and based on that, a tract map had been filed with these
. requirements where lots were required to be 110 feet in depth together
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with a 40-foot building setback and a decorative wall was provided, but
the tract would not be in conformance with the revised requirements which
stated a 120-foot lot depth would be required and no reference was made
to the required setback; that they had gone to a great deal of expense in
preparing their engineering map for subdivision purposes, and now this
would not be correct since the ground rules had been changed. Furthermore,
the revision also restricted the lot coverage to the front 60$, which
cou~d mean a 49 to 50-foot building setback - thus making all their draw-
ings worthless.
Mr. Thompson advised the Commission that he had informed Mr. Berger that
' he would talk with the City Attorney about this tract map, and it Nas the
`_ ! City Attorney~s feeling, as well as the Development Services staff, that
where a developer-property owner had spent money for design maps and
+. housing plans in which condit_ons were attached to the individual zone
° that did not pertain to the lot depth, staff would recommend favorably on
~ those lots where 110-foot depths were proposed for lots abutting the high-
way, as was indicated on the map.
Mr. Berger inquired.whether they would be required to file a variance
if the zone were approved prior to the time the tentative tract map was
` ~ approved.
Mr. Thompson noted that the tract map, in all likelihood, would be approved
before the ordinance would be in full force and ef~ect; however, some of
, the tract maps designed for these properties made no attempt to meet the
- requirements of the zone approved with the Scenic Corridor Zone intent,
i but where developers had met the intent of this, even though not the
' literal interpretation, staff would recommend that the tract be approved.
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'~ Mr. Berger noted that with a 120-foot lot depth this would be much more
.:~ than the Commission originally approved, and if the lots could be designed
;! for a one-story house with a 40-foot rear yard, it could be done more
easily with a two-story or split-level house, and a 120-foot depth would
~j be a waste of property; and that individual homeowners did not want excess
land to take care of - sometimes they had difficulty selling homes with
only a 30-foot rear yard, and what this requirement was doing was spreading
the lot.
'! Chairman Herbst inquired as to the percentage of lots which wou?d abut
'i La Palma Avenue; whereupon Mr. Berger replied that about 25 of the 247
;, lots would be so affected, or 10~. Furthermore, when the Planning
''~ Commission approved the (SC) Zone, there was no mention of the railroad
.. tracks - however, the railroad now appeared in the amended form.
Chairman Herbst advised Mr. Berger that the City had been informed that
the railroad was planning to purchase additional right-of-way and add a
. spur.
Mr. McDaniel noted that this was correct, but in addition, in the approval
of the reclassification of properties north of the river, the additional
setback was required as part of the approval for R-2-5000 zoning.
Mr. Berger noted that they were much more concerned with the lot setback
even though they appreciated the fact that their tract map would not be
affected; however, it appeared to him that this would not seem fair to
the other developers coming in later; and that the City appeared to be
going overboard since the additional setback could be provided very
easily as the Commission requested.
Commissioner Allred inquired whether or not Mr. Berger felt that 10~ of
his clients did not want larger lots; whereupon Mr. Berger replied this
would cost about 13 lots of the subdivision, and yet they still could
provide adequate buffering within the confines of the original (SC) Zone
draft approved by the Planning Commission.
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RP~~~~'~~~!y;+;r''~?~;a~TS - ITEM N0. 2 (Continued)
M':', ~u;rt ~"'u~-iher noted that there was a change from the 1'~ to 1 slope
t: .:~.a t:s:;v~ - however, there was some flexibility in the amendments
w};~t.. '. ;,K:: ;~3 before, and then inquired what if there was a natural
s~~;`'~:' >~ t=, to 1- would this requirement mean the slope would have to
be c"r~ari~s~u ta 2 to 1?
-_,~ Mr. Thompson noted that this might create a problem.
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e= ~<;~;~ Mr. Berger then inquired wt:ether or not a tract map approval would be held
~~ up until the City Council also reviewed the Scenic Corridor changes, or
~ '~ would it be effective if the Planning Commission agreed with the intent;
"-~ whereupon staff informed Mr. Berger that the zoning was based on s ecific
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~: requirements which formerly were in the (SC) Zone, and the tract map would
~ r not be held up awaiting City Council approval of the changes to the (SC)
Zone.
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~c Mr. Berger discussed the 2 for 1 slope, noting that the soils engineer
and geologist used the 1'~ to 1 as a standard, and it was a matter of
~~ aesthetics to maintain the 1~ to 1 slope.
~ Commissioner Gauer inquired how the 1'~ to 1 slope would hold u~ if there
were seepage; wher~=~}:a,i Mr. Berger noted that this would not hol& up.
~:~ Mr. Berger also stz~ted that the usual circumstances found the 1'~ to 1
~,. slope acceptable, and if the soils engineer felt this met the criteria,
,~ wouldn't this be acceptable?
Commissioner Gauer noted that if there were a series of rains which did
not give the land a chance to dry out or give the watex a clxance to
! percolate down, then there would be soil slippage.
r~ Chairman Herbst noted that someone would havc to determine what was the
natural safe topography.
' Mr. Berger noted that if a soils engineer indicated the lesser slope was
acceptable, could this be waived?
Mr. McDaniel noted that unless something else was required, this could be
~ waived if determined :.o be safe by the ~oils engineer, but the intent was
"' to reduce the amounL of cut and fiil.
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- Mr. Berger noted that rather than having all cut and fill slopes, slightly
- t~err;sced lots could completely obliterate this.
Mr. bfcDaniel noted that the City was referring to all cut and fill, and it
was conceivable that a 5-foot high slope, 100 feet deep would be required
to be terraced between the homes, and it was also staff's intent to
; require landscaping or plu.nting on the slopes.
-;~,N ~ Mr. Thompson noted that FHA required the wall at the property line, while
the City of Anaheim required the wall at the top of a slope.
Mr. Berger noted that FHA usually checked with a city as to their require-
: :~ ments, and the city's requirement should take precedent over theirs.
~ Furthermore, it would appear irrigation would be a normal thing on a lot
or between pads, which could be accotnplished by using a hose rather than
a~'' providing special irrigation facilities.
r`'r` Mr. Thompson noted that special irrigation facilities would be needed
outside of the wall, but he wauld agree there would be no need for
irrigation in the side yards.
t. Mr. Berger also noted their property or development would be at the
bottom of a slope, and they would have to come partway down on the slope -
however, to plant trees partway down would be a terrific job since their
' property line was at the top of the slope.
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RECOMMENDATIONS - ITEM N0. 2 (Continued)
Chairman Herbst noted that the purpose of requiring trees as proposed
_ was to give the residents some protection from the railroad or the
highways.
Mr. Thompson noted that in view of the comments by Mr. Berger
staff
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would like to discuss this further with the developers regarding their
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so that any chan
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Commission.
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Chairman Herbst noted that the Commission was desirous of giving people
developing in the ca
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still being drafted and now was th
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tions so that all changes could be reflected
and th
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by Mr. Berger, as a developer, were of great assistance to the Planning
Commission.
~ Commissioner Seymour offered a motion to continue consideration of the
revised Scenic Corridor Overlay Zone to the meeting of May 3
1971
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allow staff time to develop a completed revised copy. Commissioner
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auer seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED.
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'` Commissioner Seymour offered a motion to adjourn ~
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' motion. MOTION CARRIED. ~
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~ The meeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M. ~
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