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City Hal.l
Anaheim, California
October 4, 1971
A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR
MEETING - A regular meeting of the Anaheim City Planning Commission was
called to order by Chairman Farano at 2:00 P.M., a quorum
being.present.
PRESENT - CHAIRMAN; Farano.
- COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood.
ABSENT - COMMISSIONERS: Rowland, Seymour.
PRESENT - Assistant Development Services Director: Ronald Thompson
Zoning Supervisor: Charles Roberts
Deputy City Attorney: Frank Lowry
Office Engineer: Jay Titus
Assistant Zoning Supervisor: Don McDaniel
Commission Secretary: Ann Krebs
PLEDGE OF - Commissioner Kaywood led in the Pledge of Allegiance to the
ALLEGIANCE Flag.
APPROVAL OF - Commissioner Kaywood offered a motion to approve the minutes
THE MINUTES of the September 8, 1971, meeting, seconded by Commissioner
Gauer, and MOTION CARRIED, subject to the following
corrections:
Pg. 71-572, para. 9, line 5- word should be "proposal" not
"proposed".
last line - add word "station" to end of
page.
Pg. 71-574, para. 3, lines 2 and 3 should read: "with the
Sign Ordinance requirements. Whereupon
Mr. Jamison replied that it was their
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Pg. 71-575, para. 3, s.ne I- ele •e ' a~ i~e £~lso't'Y
Pg. 71-582, para. 3, line 1- should be "Mrs.".
Pg. 71-5~8, para. 4, line 1- Commissioner Herbst, not Rowlaiid.
Pg. 71-593, para. ~, line 12 - should be "bona fide" not
"fona fide" .
Commissioner Kaywood offered a motion to approve the minutes
of the September 20, 1971, meeting subject to the following
corrections, seconded by Commissioner Gauer, and MOTION
CARRIED:
Pg. 71-603, para. 7, line 2- delete "would some" and insert
"did any",
Pg. 71-604, para. 9- Commissioner Gauer voted "nc:",
'3. 71-615, para. 10, line 2- delete "since" and insert "if".
line 3 - transposition of "hospital";
delete word "too".
TENTATIVE MAP OF - DEVELOPER: PONDEROSA HOMES, 4570 Campus Drive, Newport
TRACT NO. 7471 Beach, California. ENGINEER: Toups Engineering,
17291 Irvine Boulevard, Tustin, California. Subject
property, comprising approximately 35 acres located on
the north side of the future extension of La Palma Ave*~ue,
south of Esperanza Road and easterly of Imperial Highway,
is proposed for subdivision into 184 R-2-5000 zoned lots.
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TENTATIVE MAP OF TRACT N0. 7471 (Continued)
71-626
Assistant 2oning Supervisor pon McDar.i21 reviewed the location of subject
property, uses established in close proximity, the reason why subject tract
was continued numerous times, and the fact that staff had received an exhibit
from the County which delineated the alignment of La Palma and established
the boundaries of the proposed Yorba Regional Park. Said exhibit has not
been acted upon by the Board of Supervisors but has been favorably recommended
by the County Department of Parks, Highways and Flood Control.
Mr. McDaniel concluded by stating that although the applicant-developer was
aware of this recent exhibit, he was interested in having his proposal conform
to already-approved tentative tract maps on adjacent properties. Therefore,
the tract map before the Commission conformed to the patterns established
through approval of tentative tract maps in this area, even though it did
not conform to the County's current proposal for La Palma Avenue and Yorba
Regional Park.
Mr. Larry Matzick, representing the developer, appeared before the Commission
noting he was available to answer questions; and that the Report to the Commzs-
sion reflected his feelings regarding consideration of subject tract map.
The Commission inquired what tl:e developer planned to do if the alignment of
La Palma Avenue was different than proposed on the tentative tract map.
Whereupon Mr. Matzick replied that he wanted the tract map approved in a
similar manner as other maps had been approved in this area; that the Planning
Comonission's consideration of the tract map had been continued numerous times
because the County continuously ealled him to advise him of a new alignment;
and that he decided that the only way the alignment would be adopted in final
form was for some positive action to be taken by the City of Anaheim.
Ccmmissioner Kaywood inquired whether or not this wouldn't be wasting money,
time, and work on the part of the developer if the southerly end of this tract
were to be included in the Yorba Regional Park.
Mr. Matzick replied that when the alignment of La Palma Avenue is adopted, and
when other developers presented revised tract maps to conform with this align-
ment, then he, too, would submit a revised tract map. Further.more, current
proposals are to design La Palma Avenue to be approximately 2 feet above the
Flood Control levee. La Palma would then act as a buffer and would minimize
flooding problems which the Flood Control District have indicated would affect
subject property. Therefore, he would like some action on the tract map so
that he could have some direction; and that he did not feel having this action
taken would be a waste of time.
The Commission noted that stu>ject tract had been on the Planning Commission
agenda seven times already; therefore, they felt some action shauld be taken
since it appeared that the alignment for La Palma Avenue would be resolved,
anrl the develope•r would then have to conform to this new alignment. Further-
more, this ~aas only a tentative tract map, and conditions would have to be met
for final approval. ~
Commissioner A12red offered a motion to approve Tentative Map of Tract No.
?471, seconded by Commissioner Herbst, and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner
Kaywood voting "no" on the basis that the new alignment of La Palma Avenue ~
and the boundaries of the Yorba Regional Park would be established shortly;
therefore approval would only mean the developer would have to present a ;
revised tract map before development could occur), subject to the following ;
conditions: ,
(1) That the approval of Tentative Map of Tract No. 7471 is gra.nted subject
to the completion of Rec].assification No. 70-71-25.
(2) That should this subdivision be developed as more than one subdivision,
each subdivision thereof shall be submitted in tentative form for
approval.
(3) That all lots within this tract shall be served by underground utilities.
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TENTATSVF7 MAP OF TRACT NO. 7471 (Cont?nued)
(4) That a final tract map of subject property shall be submitt~ed ~o and
approved by the City Council and then be recorded in the of~ice of the
Orange County Recorder.
(5) That street names shall be approved by the City of Anaheim prior to
approval of a final tract map.
(6) That the owners of subject property shall pay to the City of Anaheim
the appropriate park and recreation in-lieu fees as determ~ned to be
appropriate by the City Council, said fees to be paid at the time the
building permit is issued.
(7) That the vehicular access rights, except at street and/or alley openinys,
to La Palma Avenue shall be dedicated to the City of Anaheim.
(8) ~hat drainage of subject tract shall be disposed of in a manner that is
satisfactory to the City Engineer. This shall include provisions for
accepting and transporting runoff through the tract from any upstream
tributary area.
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(9) That a permit shall be obtained from the Orange County Flood Control
District for any work within the Santa Ana River Channel right-of-way.
(lU) That final disposition of the well site adjacent to Lot 76 shall be
provided for in a manner that is satis£actoxy to the City of Anaheim.
(11) That any application for an encroachment permit for the irrigation line
across "J" Street shall be filed concurrently with the submittal of the
final tract map.
(12) That the developer shall obtain a favorable flood hazard letter, accept-
able to the City of Anaheim, from the Orange County Flood Control
District.
(13) a. That the developer shall submit to the City of Anaheim an irrevocable
offer of dedication for Lots 1a, 2a and 169a through 184a abutting
La ~alma Avenue, said irrevocable offer shall be accepted by the
City of Anaheim within thirty days after recordation of the final
tract map. In the event Lots la, 2a and 169a through 184a are not
accepltc~d by the City, said lots shall revert to the developer to be
fncluded into the abutting Lots 1, 2 and 169 through 184.
b. ~'hat if Lots r:~, 2a and 169a through 184a are accepted by the City
of Anaheim, tiie developer shall install a 6-foot masonry wall on the
south property line separating Lots 1, 2 and 169 through 184 .from
Lots la, 2a and 169a through 184a.
c. That if Lots la, 2a and 169a through 184a are not accepted by the
City of Anaheim, they shall become part of Lots 1, 2 and 169 throi~gh
184 respectively and zhe developer shall, in accordance with City
Council policy, construct a 6-foot masonry wall on the south property
lir_e, separating Lots 1, 2 and 159 through 184 and La Palma Avenue.
Reasonable lanclscaping, includi.ng irrigation facilities, shall be
installed in the uncemented portion of the arterial highway parkway
tYie full distarxce of said wall, plans for said landscaping to be
submitted to and subject to the approval of the Superintendent of
Parkway Maintenance. Following installation and acceptance, the
City of Anaheim shall assume the responsibility for maintenance
of said landscapinq.
d. That the City Council reserves the right to delete or amend the
assumption of maintenance in the event Council policy changes.
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71-628
CONDITIONAL USE - CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING. ATLANTIC RICHFIELD COMPANY,
PERMIT N0. 1257 445 South Figueroa Street, Los Angeles, California,
Owner; HR^~TAGE CHRISTIAN COLLEGE, 227 North Magnolia
to ESTABLISH A PRIVATEeriFOUR-~XEAR, LIBE1RAL ARTS~COLLEGE onqpropertyPdescribed
as: A rectangularly-shaped parcel of land located at the southwest corner of
Crescent Avenue and Muller Street, having frontages of approximately 660 feet
on Crescent Avenue and approximately 764 feet on Muller Street, and further
described as 1900 West Crescent Avenue. Property presently classified M-1,
LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND R-A, AGRICULTURAL, ZONES.
Subject petition was continued from the September 8, 1971, meeting to allow
time for the petitioner/agent to meet with staff to develop an alternate
traffic pattern.
" Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel reviewed the location of ~aubject
-_ property, uses established i:, close proximity, previous zoning action on the
property, and the proposal, noting that subject petition had been continued
; from the September 8, 1971, meeting to allow time for the petiticner to meet
~ with staff to determine an alternate circulation pattern for the establish-
~' ment of a four-year liberal arts college having an initial enrollment of 750
. ~ students and a projected maximum enrollment by 1980 of 5,000 students.
' I Mr. McDaniel, in reviewing the evaluation of the proposal, noted that there
~ was a virtual void of both east-west and north-south circulation for the
quadrant baunded by Brookhurst Street, Crescent Avenue, and Lincoln Avenue;
that at s~u,ch time as Crescent Avenue was to be extended over the Santa Ana
Freeway, it was proposed to have a one-way link from Crescent Avenue to
Muller street bordering subject property, which could severely limit access
; to the proposed parking areas on Crescent Avenue; and that subsequent to the
last public hearing on subject petition, the petitioner's architect had
. ! revised the plans with an alternate solution to the circulation problem which
met with the approval of the Traffic Engineer. Furthermore, four ten-story
-1 dormitory towers would be located within 80 to 100 feet of R-3 property to
.~ th~ southeast, whereas Code would limit this height to one-half the setback
distance, or approximately 50 feet; however, the towers would be well within
~~,s Code when related only to the single-family homes to the south.
Mr. Paul Liefeld, representing the agent for the petitioner, appeared before
the Co~¢niss~on and stated that the traffic circulation problem had been
worked out to the satisfaction of the City Engineer; therefore, he was
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~ available to answer questions which the Planning Commission might have.
Commissioner Herbst inquired how much parking would be needed for the ten-
story dormitories that were being proposed; whereupon Mr. Liefeld stated
that the dormitory building proposed near the athletic field would be placed
on stilts so that additiona3 parking cuuld be provided for that portion of
the dormitory proposed.
;; Mr. Liefeld, in response to Commission questioning, stated that the towers
were relocated so that traffic could flow more easily to Muller Street, and
s the parking requirements for the approximately 2,000 students - less than
"j half of the projected student enrollment - would be residing in the dormitories,
and that the parking would be in compliance with Code requirements, however,
there was an excess of parking to the classroom requirement. Furthermore, a
college student body could not be compared with the student body of an
i elementary or high school where tlie entire body would b~ in classrooms from
9:00 A.M. to 3:00 P.M., since the classes in college would be in operation
from 7:30 A.M, to 8:00 P.M., and seldom, if ever, would the entire 5,000
students be on campus at any one time because of a staggered class schedule.
Commissioner Gauer noted that the qymnasiw;: was a considerable distance from
the athletic field and inquired why this couldn't be moved closer; whereupon
Mr. Liefeld repliec7 that it was more important to move the parking. Further-
more, the gym was no greater distance from the field tlnan others he had
noted in other colleges or universities. ;
Coimnissioner Kaywood observed that it was possible many students living on
+ campus would be needing transportation to and from their jobs which they,
in all likelihood, would have to have; therefore, there would be a need for
~ more parking. Whereupon Mr. Liefeld stated that a considerable amount of
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 1257 (Continued)
71-629
employment of students would be on campus in food serving, maintenance, office
work, etc., therefore, students would be primarily located on campus.
Commissioner Kaywood then inquired whether or not the representa.tives of the
school anticipated having more than 5,000 students. Whereupon Mr. Liefeld
stated he could not envision more than 5,000 students at this location.
Commissioner Kaywood then inquired whether or not the petitioner/agent would
stipulate to a maximum of 5,000 students since other private schools appeared
to be coming back to the Commission requesting the Commission to approve an
increased enrollment. Whereupon Mr. Liefeld stipulated to a maximum of 5,000
students.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Herbst offered Resolution No. PC71-192 and moved for its passage
and adoption to grant Petition for Conditional Use Permit No. 1257, subject
to conditions and the stipulation by the petitioner/agent that there would be
a maximum of 5,000 students in the proposed college. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farzno, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood.
NOES: COMMIS~IONERS: None.
ABSENT: CONIlKISSIONERS: Rowland, Seymour.
CONDITIONAL USE - CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING. WARREN J. TER BEEST AND
PERMIT NO. 1262 ELWOOD D. TER BEEST, 12132 Blackme^: Street, Garden Grove,
California, Owners; THOMAS E. SHELTON, Alpine Civil
Engineers, Inc., 17612 Beach Boulevard, Huntington Beach,
California, Agent; requesting permission to ESTABLISH A 242-SPACE TRAVEL
TRAILER PARK FOR RECR~ATIONAL VEHICLES WITH A MANAGER'S APARTMENT on property
described as: An irregularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approxi-
mately 8 acres located south and west of the southwest corner of Ball Road
and West Street, having frontages of approximately 405 feet on Ball Road and
approximately 397 feet on West Street. F~roperty presently classified R-A,
AGRICULTURAL, ZON~.
Subject petition was continued from the Sepfember 8, 1971, meeting to allow ;
the petitioner time to revise plans.
Assistant 2oning Supervisor pon MeDaniel reviewed the location of subject ;
property, uses established in cJ.ose'proximity, the proposal, and the reason
for continuance of subject petition, noting that the revised plans indicated
all spaces would be 20 feet wide rather than a portion being only 16 feet
wide; that 14 spaces were also pr~posed for extra long trailers; that 110
camper spaces were still proposed having only 600 to 620 square feet rather
than the 800 square feet as proposed in the Travel Trailer Park Ordinance;
and that a landscape median at the entrance was not being provided as required
by said proposed ordinance. '
Mr. Thomas Shelton, agent for the petitioner, appeared before the Commission
and stated the Report to the Commission summarized their amended proposal,
and that ;;hey now had 221 spaces compared with the original 242 spaces.
Commissioner Allred observed that he was an owner of a trailer and had '
occasion to park the vehicle in var~~us parks, therefore, he felt the ~
proposal should have spaces where the-re would be easier ingre~ss and egress,
rather than backing in or out of a space, and inquired why th?~ could not '
also be provided in the proposed tr~,iler park. !
Mr. Shelton replied that this was the decision a developer must make in the I
beginning, and the reason they did not propose this was because with the
exception of the travel trailers parked around the perimeter, which would be
pulled in or backed in, all otl:ar pads s,ere pull-through; that it was their
feeling there would be adequate maneuvering area, and to provide pull-through
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CONt~ITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 1262 (Continued)
71-630
for all pads would reduce the number of spaces considerably, and there would ~
be more than one space Fer row lost; and that they had pursaed this sugges-
tion when mobilehome parks designiiig were considered eight to ten years ago, ,~
pertaining to 90-degree parking. ,
Commissioner Kaywood inquired how the proposed layout would affect the land-
scaping if drivers of these vehicles required more space for maneuvering.
Mr. Shelton replied that accorcling to their plan, between each trailer space
25~ of the site was landscaped, and that there was a minimum of 25 feet at
each end for maneuvering purposes.
Chairman Farano indicated that 25 feet was not very much if one had evar tried
to park a trailer into a space; that he had been driving this equipment for
some time, and it was always v~ry di£ficult to get into a space wher~ or.?..y a
small maneuvering area was provided, and at times he had some trepidation as
to whether he could park the vehicle in the allotted maneuvering area -
therefore, if he had his choice between a straight pull-in and angle parking,
he would prefer the angle parking because it would save him thirty minutes
plus c~nsiderable exasperation.
Mr. Shelton noted that the patio area could also be use~l for a maneuvering
area, and that they had considered the pull-through ?ngle in the first stage
of planning but had discarded it. Then, in response to a question by
Commissioner Kaywood, stated that approximately 15$ of the spaces would be
lost if there were angle parking spaces.
F'urther discussion was held between the Commission and the developer regard-
ing the method of layout to reduce the maneuvering problem, even though there
would be spaces lost.
THE iiEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Allred offered Resolution N0. PC71-193 and moved for its passage
and adoption to grant Petition for Conditional Use Permit No. 1262, subject
to conditions.
Prior to roll call, Commissioner Kaywood asked whether the petitioner woulc~ ;
stipulate to the replacement of any trees or shrubbery damaged or knocked !
down by trailers trying to maneuver into and out of a space. Whereupon ?
Mr. Shelton stipulated to permanent maintenance of all landscaping and replace- ~
ment of any damaged lanclscaping.
Commissioner Kaywood then requested this be a finding and a condition of the
motion just offered by Commissioner Allred; whereupon Commissioner Allred
accepted the additional condition. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: :.OMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland, Seymour.
~ CONDITIONAL USE - pUBLIC HEARING. MR. AND MRS. DOUGLAS BLACKBURN, 317
PERMIT N0. 1265 North Philadelphia Street, Anaheim, California, Owners;
LOUISE BARTELT, 241 Sherwood Place, Cos~ta Mesa, California,
t~` Agent; requesting permissior_ to ESTABL7SH A BOARDING HOUSE
~~ FOR THE AGED FOR SIX GUESTS IN AN EXISTING DWELLING on
- pro~erty described as:
An irregularly-shaped parcel of land having a frontage of approximately 90
~~ feet on the west side of Philadelphia Street, having a maximum depth of approxi-
mately 13b feet, and being located approximately 155 feet south of the center- '
? line of Adele Street, and further described as 317 North Philadelghia Street.
~1 - Property presently cla~sified R-3, MULTIPLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, ZONE.
Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel reviewed tne location of subject
property, uses established in close proximity, and the proposal as set forth
' in the Report to the Commission.
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 1265 (Continued)
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Mr. McDaniel further noted that based on statements made by the agent for
the petitioner, the proposed use would appear not to be detrimental to the
surrounding area. However, the Commi.ssion might wish to consider the long-
term effects of this kind of resid~ntial conve.rsio:i in the 3owntown area since
this could be the beginning of a trend that coi~ld stall any possible re-
development of the downtown core area for higner density residentisl or
commercial uses. Fur.thermore, the applicant should be advise3 that the
Building Code would not permit occ~apancy of the second floor of the existing
residence if converted to a boarding house, whether used by the guests or
the operators, unless a second exit were provided.
rilr. Allan Bartelt, representing the agent for the petitioner, appeared before
the Conanission and stated he was available to answer qLes~ions, since the
petitioners~,_v~ e unable to be present, and the agent for the petitioner was
his sister~ ho w uld be operating the proposed guest home, together with his
wife, one or the other being there all of the time.
Commissi.oner Kaywood inquired what would happen to a guest who was in apparent
good health at the time the guest became a resident and later became ill -
would this guest have to leave the facility?
Mr. Bartelt replied that the guest would have. t~ go to a convalescent home
since they would have only ambulatory person~ as residents there.
Chairman Farano inquired how these persons would spend their time if none
had automobiles.
Mr. Bartelt rep].ied that they would either be indoors, on the porch,.,.in the
yard, or walking around the block. _.
No one appeared in opposition.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Deputy City Attorney Frank Lowry advised the Commission that he would like to
make Mr. Bartelt fully aware of the fact that na one could live on the second
floor unless a second exit were provided. Whereupon Mr. Bartelt stated that
since this was a requirement, they, of course, would have to provide this
outside staircase, and he would so stipulate.
Commissioner Kaywood inquired whether or not a time limit should be established
for the use. Whereugon Commissioner Herbst stated that this would be one of
the quietest use~ for this residential area; that there woulc: be no auto-
mobiles, and the guests would be ambulatory but would not be going anywhere;
and that there was a definite need for this type of facility in the city -
therefore, he r.ould see no reason for establishing a time limit.
Commiss~oner Herbst offe,red Resolution No. PC71-194 and moved for its passage
and adoptiori to.:g'r.ant'~~Petitiori.~for Conditional Use Permit No. 1265, subject
to condi:tians,' and'~the'stipulatiori by the•petitioner and a condition that if
the second floor of this residence were prbpose.d.to be utilized either for
guests or the operators, that an addizional outside entrance would have to be
provided. (See Resolution Book) ., '
On ro].1 call the foregming resolution ~:as passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: CONIlKISSIONERS: Rowland, Seymour.
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~ CONDITIONAL USE - PUBLIC HEARING. SAMUEL MAGID, P. O. Box 5032, Beverly
PERMIT NO. 1266 Hills, California, Owner; F. R. MECKES, dba OUR HERO
SANDWICH SHOP, 1711 West Ball Road, Anaheim, California,
Agent; requesting permission to have ON-SALE BEER IN ~
AN EXISTING RESTAURANT on property uascribed as: A rectangularly-shaped
parcel ~f land consisting of approximately 8 acres geaerally located at the
, northwest corner of Euclid Street and Ball Road, having approximate frontages
of 750 feet on the west side of Euc~id Street and a20 feet on the north side
of Ba11 Road. Froperty presently classified C-1, GENERAL CONa2ERCIAL, ZONE.
_ Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel reviewed the location of subject
property, uses established in close proximity, previous zoning action on the
;.,, <~ property for a similar use, ar_d the proposai to serve beer in conjunction ~
_'' ' with the serving of food in an existing restaurant which was a separate
building from the main shopping center complex; and that although the two
~~' ; previous conditional use permits were denied by the Planning Commission this
was because they proposed on-sale liquor within the main shopping complex,
_ and the petitioner was proposing to serve beer in a separate building within ~
this shopping complex. Therefore, the Commission might wish to consider ',
whether or not this request was justified in this location. ?
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g, petitioner, appeared before the Commission and indicated
the present use of ~he property was a sar.,dwich shop. ;
Chairman Farano inquired whe•ther or not a bar was planned. Whereupon Mr. Magid ~
state t~h~ t there would be no bar; chat the operator of the restaurant served ~
~ hoth e~ef~'and pastrami. sandwiches, and it was natural for customers to want to
have a glass of beer with these types of sandwiches; that the operator of this ~
facility was a very good restaurant man, and even without beer, he had a very
; good operation; that there would be no bar or any stools, but the beer would
-~ be sold in conjunction with the sale of food; that there was no place for a
~ bar or any ~emblance of a bar in this facility; that the waitress would serve
the beer at one of the tables at the time the sandwich was served; and that
a he would stipulate to no bar or stools.
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"•' the past when he was approached to have a beer bar. in the shopping center, he
r' had turned down any proposals during the six years that he was the owner, but ~
r_'~ perhaps the previous owner had made requests for a beer bar or on-sale liquor; 3
.°-~~ and that there would be no sale of beer only, since the beer could only be +
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;,~ located in a building where Dinah's Chicken was formerly located; however,
~, that operation was not successful because of the competition with Kentucky
Colnnel Chicken, and the restaurant was successful without the sale of beer,
however, they wanted to accommodate their customers who had requested beer
~ with their food.
~ Chairman Farano noted that the reason why the Commission was as;cing so many
~''~ questions was because this use went with the land, and i8 the present operation
closed down, the use would still be permitted.
,o ~' Mr. MagiB replied that in the past.he.had a number of •requests for beer bars,
' and he had never permitted them. Therefore, he would~so stipulate or have
_ I •it written into the lease. ~°•
- Chairman Herbst inquired whether there was a way in which the CQmmission could
'•^ be assured that this would not turn into a beer bar by requiring a stipulation
:;;, that the serving of beer was incidental to the serving of food.
Deputy City Attorney ~rank Lowry statied this could be a condition and stipula-
tion by the petitioner, Dut he could not see how they could be enforced.
~ Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts noted that the Commission, in the past, had
made it a requirement of similar operations, that the serving of beer be only
, incidental to the serving of food.
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~ Mr. Magid then stipulated to serving of beer only with the serving of food.
Mr, Robert Meckes, agent for the petitioner and operator of Our Hero Sandwich
Shop, appeared before the Commission and stated he was in ag~eement with the
conditions set forth in the Report to the Commission, as well as the require-
ment that the serving of beer was incidental to the serving of food. Further-
more, he had gone through a similar request when he operated the Cafe Carrousel
located on East Street several years ago, and it would be very difficult to
• change this facility into a beer bar because its size was too small, being
`~ "'" " only 20 by 60 feet.
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Commissioner Gauer offered Resolution No. PC71-195 and moved for its passage
, and adoption to grant Petition for Conditional Use Permit No. 1266, subject
to conditions and the requirement that the serving of beer shall be incidental
-~ to the serving of food, and findings that the petitioner had stipulated to no
bar or stools and that on-sale beer would be incidental to the serving of
food. (See Resolution Book)
: On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
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, AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS; Allred.
~; ABSENT: CONII~SISSIONERS; Rowland, Seymour.
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' PERMIT NO. 1267 A~NG. THE OWEN CON~ANy~ 700 Wilshire Boulevard,
- 1~ Suite 530, Los Angeles, California, Owner; VICTOR K. HARDIN,;
: 1300 South Anaheim Boulevard, Anaheim, California, Agent;
~ requesting permission to EXPAND AN EXISTING AUTOMOBILE
SALES AND SERVICE FACILITY WITH WAIVER OF THE biIN2MUM RE(~UIRED LANDSCAPING on
+ ( property described as:
=~ An irregularly-shaped parcel of land having a frontage
of approximately 100 feet on the east side of Anaheim Boulevard, having a
,i maximum depth of approximately 329 feet, and being located a
pproximately 670 #
~~ feet south of the centerline of Ball Road, and further described as being
! immediately north of and adjoining 1300 South Anaheim Boulevard. Property
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`~ ; Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel reviewed the location of subject '
,,, property, uses established in close proximity, previous zoning action on the
_ ; properties in the area in which subject property was located, and the proposal
{ to expand an existing automobiZe sales and service facility on the adjacent
~ property, as set forth in the Report to the Commission, noting that the
proposal indicated the required 50-foot building setback as well as more than
; the minimum required landscaping in the front setback was being provided.
~ Mr. McDaniel, in evaluatin the
of an established use in this area~along~Anaheim Boulevarda thatctheeMplnZone
'~ ~ required the planting of one tree ner„10,000 s u
visible within 200 feet of an arterial highwayq ho.wevert other~automobile
dealerships along Anaheim Boulevard in the M-1 Zone had not been req.uired to
meet this standard, therefore, this waiver might be considered techriical.
Furthermore, in view of the fact that the proposed body shop would be visilile
,;. from Anaheim Boulevard and adjacent property, the Commission might wish to
,; ' consider requiring a masonry wall along the north boundary lines as well as
:.s the westerly boundary which was within 200 feet within Anaheim Boulevard.
,~~ Chairman Farano requested verification tliat other automobile dealerships
were not required to meet the tree requirement as set forth in the M-1 Zone;
~~ whereupon Mr. McDaniel stated that these dealerships pre-dated the area
development plan and/or the M-1 ordinance.
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Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts noted that the requirement for M-1 storage
,; or parking area prior to 1966 required 2~ of the interior area to be land-
`;; scaped, however, it was felt that in most instances only low-growing shrubs
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 1267 (Continued)
: were planted, which did not provide an effective treatment or reduce the
asphalt appearance as the Commission and City Council had intended - there-
fore, this requirement was amended to require one tree per 10,000 square
,.- feet of storage or parking area.
~ Mr. McDaniel noted that many of the other dealerships were in the C-2 and '
C-3 Zones.
Mr. Vic Hardin, agent for the petitioner, indicated his presence to answer
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,; trees; whereupon Mr. Hardin stated that trees would shed their leaves on the ~!
~~:. new cars that were parked, as well as create a generally untidy appearance I
, for these new cars. ~
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Co~nissioner Gauer noted that he could see very little landscaping in the ~
- plans, and in the past when properties in this general area were being con- 2
~~i sidered, Buzza-Cardozo Company - who had one of the most attractive M-1 i
~~ landscaped areas in the city - requested that the City require more land-
scaping for these automobile facilities. !
; Mr. Hardin noted he met the requirements of the area development plan by
providing 10 feet and wanted it to be harmonious with the existing facility
'~' to the south wherein 6 feet of landscaping was provided in the front setback,
while 2$ of the balance of the area had trees planted.
'~~ The Commission then inquired whether or not the agent would be opposed to
;f~ providing a masonry wall where the storage of other than new vehicles would
be viewed from Anaheim Boulevard.
.;~ Mr. xardin replied he would be opposed to a wall where e~: osure would be
~~ along Anaheim Boulevard since the building they proposed would be 350 feet
'~ from the street, and he could see no reason to fence this building in.
Commissioner Herbst noted that adjoining M-1 property was undeveloped;
'~ ;~ therefore, subject property would be viewed from the street, which was
undesirable.
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feet would be devoted to the pa~:king of new automobiles.
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, in reviewing the plans, noted that approximately 300
feet would be exposed to vie~a from Anaheim Boulevard.
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u S1C1@.
~: ~: Discussion was then held by the Commission as to the amount of wall which
,.~~ should be provided, whether or not a chainlink fence with slats could be
- provided for a portion of the property not exposed to Anaheim Boulevard,
- and whether or not the wall should be stepped down to 30 inches in more than
_ the front setback of the property.
':i: No one appeared in ogposition.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
~' Commissioner Gauer offered Resolution No. PC71-196 and moved for its passage
T and adoption to grant Petition for Conditional Use Permit No. 1267, provided,
},,~- however, that a 6-foot masonry wall be constructed along the westerly line of
the northernmost portion of subject property directly south to the southern-
most portion, then directly west to Anaheim Boulevard, stepping down from
50 feet from the easterly boundary of the wall to 25 feet from the front
` property line, said wall gradually stepped down trom the 6-foot height to
t.' 30 inches in the front setback.
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Prior to roll call, Commissioner Kaywood inquired of the petitioner's agent
whether or not he would agree to providing a chainlink fence with redwood
slats along the northerly portion adjacent to the bank; whereupon Mr. Hardin
stipulated to providing said chainlink fence with slats.
Commissioner Kaywood then inquired whether or not Commissioner Gauer would
accept an addition to his motion and require the chainlink fence with slats
along the northerly portion of subject property; whereupon Commissioner Gauer
concurred in said amendment to the motion. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland, Seymour.
VARIANCE NO. 2293 - P?7BLIC HEARING. A.S.A.W.A. CORPORATION, 806 South Beach
noulevard, Anaheim, California, Owner; requesting permis-
sion to ESTABLISH A MOBILEHOME SALES LOT WITH WAIVER OF
THE R~QUIRED 6-FOOT MASONRY WALL AND PERMIT THE USE OF A MOBILEHOME AS AN
OFFICE on property described as: A rectangularly-shaped parcel of land
consisting of approximately one acre, having a frontage of approximately 175
feet on the east side of Beach Boulevard, having a maximum depth of approxi-
mately 270 feet, and being located approximately 150 feet north of the center-
line of Rome Avenue, and furiher described as 806 South Beach Boulevard.
Property presently classified C-1, GENERAL CONIl~RCIAL, 20NE.
Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel reviewed the location of subject
property, uses established ir~ close proximity, pr~vious zoning action on the
property, and the proposal to utilize a portion of subject property for
mobilehome sales, noting that the portion behind the existing residence would
be graded and surfaced with gravel for the storage and display of new mobile-
homes, and a mobilehome would be used as an office and would be located near
the Beach Boulevard frontage in conjunction with an asphalt parking lot for
six cars.
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Mr. McAaniel, in evaluating the proposal, noted that previously-approved plans
for an impound yard indicated the area for automobile stor,age to be asphalted
and landscaped, however, the current plan submitted for the mobilehome sales
indicated a graveled surface with no landscaping for the sales area, and in
~ecent requests for similar uses, the Commission had required them to provide
landscaping adjacent to abutting streets, in addition to landscaping the
interior of the sales area - therefore, a similar requirement would appear
ap~ropriate in this application; that due to the nature of the use and the
surrounding land uses, the waiver of the required 6-foot masonry wall adjacent
to residential uses would appear to be very critical; that the wairer of the
requirement that all uses shall be conducted within a building was being
requested because a building was defined as a permanently-located structure
having a roof, and all forms of vehicles, even if immobilized, were excluded,
to utillze a mobilehome as an office should warrant special attention by the
Canani~sion,since this also had been a consideration in previous applications
for mobilehome sales lots, ttie most recent in which the Con¢nission had imposed
a one-year time limitation. However, the Commission should be aware of the
possibility of establishsng an undesirable precedent for other uses in other
zones by allowing mobilehomes as permanent office structures;:and that the
appllcant should be advised that the wiring in the mobilehome office wouZd
be required to meet the Building Code relative to commercial structure wiring
standards.
Mr. Bi11 Asawa, representing the petitioner, appeared before the Commission
and noted that under a previous variance they had requested permission to
establish an impound yard, however, after making a thorough investigation,
this use was determined not to be practical; that the school that had been
proposed in the existing building was in operation; that he had a client
presently 1o~ated in Santa Ana interested in establishing a mobilehome sales
facility on an interim basis until the petitioner was able to construct a
commercial building; and that the property was preszntly vacant, therefore,
he would like to utilize the property for the time being.
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Commissioner Gauer inquired whether or not the c~titioner would landscape
the property in accordance with the previous variance approved; wherei,~pon
Ntz'. As~wa stated he Would do whatever the Commission required. -
Commissioner Kaywood noted that nothizig had been done as to l~ndscaping
which was a requirem~nt of the zoning; whereupon Mr. Asawa stated the zoning
for thosebconditionstsetaf~,arthtthat were~notdneededWtoebeucomnlete
obtaining zoning on the property. Providing
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Chairman Farano noted that part of the granting of the variance was proof
that the petitioner ~,r~as not enjoyinq the same rights as adjoining properties
and other showings set forth in the variance section of the Anaheim Municipal
Code; therefore, ~e would like to know how the petitioner propc,sed to prove
the variance was needed.
Mr. Asawa stated there was no proof that he would be deprived of a use of
vacantoperty, such as adjoining properties, however the property would remain
Chairman Farano noted that this had nothing to do with the required showings;
whereupon Mr. Asawa stated it was a request to utilize the land until the
use proposed took place, and that he could not prove there was a hardship.
Chairman garano then inquired whether the petiti.oner proposed the mobilehome
sales as an interim use; whereupon Mr, Asawa stated that it took some time
for commercial land to develop, however, he did n~,t plan the mobilehome sales
as a permanent type of use, only as an iziterim use.
Commissioner Gauer inquired as to the manner of landscaping which the pro-
spective tenant had in Santa Ana; whereupon Mr. Asawa statea this property
in Santa ,'a,na Was an existing commercial lot and the use was permitted,
however, he was aware that some lands~aping would have to be provided to
meet Code, and that they had the entire Beach Boulevard frontage landscaped.
Commissioner Kaywood again reiterated that there was no landscaping as of
the time of her visit to the property the previous day, and that when the
impound yard was granted, the petitioner had also stated a thorough investi-
gation had been made to determine the feasibility of the use. However, now
he was stating that the impound yard was impractical.
Co~nissioner Gauer inquired whether the petitioner praposed to landscape thz
mobilehome sales lot in a manner similar to the exhibits
Mr. P,sawa replied in the affirmative as it pertained to theefrontaoftthehlot.
Coitm~issioner Gauer further inquired whether these mobilehomes would be moved
on and off the lot, or would all models remain; whereupon Mr, Asawa replied
that a11 those mobilehomes in the rear of the property would be moved.
Commissioner Gauer theu stated that the request might not be tao objectionable
if a good landscaping plan had been submitted, but to consider the request as
proposed would be something the Commission could not tolerate
since these mobilehomes would be movefl in and out, with the unitsrnotuhaving
any skirting or landsca in ,
P~ g, which would be a definite detriment to the area.
Mr. Asawa stated that the models would be skirted, as well as some landscap-
ing along the Beach Boulevard frontage where the mobilehome office was
planned to be located, and the rear portion wculd not be visible from the
street.
Commissioner Kaywood noted that the petitioner had no landscaping presently
on the property, even though zoning was granted, and the proposed use would
be an v~ndesir~le encxoachment into a highly desirable residential ar~a.
Discussion was conta,nued by the ~etitioner and Commissioner Kaywood regarding
'~e ty~e of deve7,opment in the area and the various proposals by the petitioner.
No one a~peax+ed ~ks~ o~pos~t:lon,
THE HEP~RTNG WAS CLOSED.
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VARIANCE N0. 2293 (Continued)
Coimnissioner Kaywood offere~ Resolution No. PC71-197 and moved for its passage
and adoption to deny Petition for Variance No. 2293 on the basis that the use
was not permitted in the zone and would be detrimental to the residential
environment of very attractive homes immediately adjacent to subject property,
particularly since the petitioner propoced not to provide the required masonry
wall; that even witY. a wall, the view of the mobilehomes would not be blocked
from view of the residents of these homes; that the petitioner had not proven
a hardship existed; that there were no exceptional or extraordinary circum-
stances applicable to the property as stated by the petitioner or to the
zntended use of the property that did not apply generally to the property or
class of use in ~khe same vicinity and zone; and that the requested variance
was not necessar~ for the preservation and enjoyment of a substantial property
right possessed by other property in the same vicinity and zone and denied to
the property in question. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS; Rowl.and, Seymour.
V?~RIANCE N~• 2294 - PUBLIC HEARING. BENJAMIN NIEWINSKI, 623 North East Street,
Anaheim, California, Owner; CHARLES M. BOLANDER, 1705
permission to WAIVE THEWMINIMUMtLOT WIDTH ANDCMINIMUM1LOTAAREA~TOePERMITng
SUBDIVISION OF AN EXISTING PARCEL INTO TWO LOTS on property described as:
A rectangularly-shaped parcel of land having a frontage of approximately
125 feet on the west side of East Street, having a maximum depth of approxi-
mately 112 feet, and being located approximately 429 feet north of the center-
line of Sycamore Street, and further described as 609-611 North East Street.
Prope.rty presently classified R-1, ONE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, ZONE.
Assistant 2oning Supervisor pon McDaniel reviewed the location of subject
property, uses established in close proximity, and the proposal to divide
an existing parcel into two lots and move on two single-£amily residential
structures with detached garages; that the homes would conform to the minimum '
floor area and setback requirements in the R-1 Zone; that access to the ~
would be provided from an alley to the rear of the property; that the Anaheimes :
General Plan indicated this area as being appropriate for commercial-
professional uses, however, the majority of the existing uses in this area
along East Street were single-family residential units; and that the existing
lots in the vicinity of the proposal ranged in size from 5170 square feet to
8030 square feet, with frontages of from 47 feet to 73 feet, and, therefore,
it would appear the requested waivers were appropriate in this area alony
East Street.
Mr. Charles Bolander, agent for the petitioner, appeared before the Commission
and stated he was available to answer questions.
Commissioner Allred inquired whether the pictures presented of homes in the
file wera to be relocated onto these two lots; whereupon Mr. Bolander replied
in the affirmative.
Chairman Farano noted that the Planning Commission did not approve house-
moving permits, this being the prerogative of the City Council.
Zoning Supervisor Charles R:.berts advised the Commission that the petitioner
already had a request before the City Counci]. for said house moving.
No one appeared in opposition.
THE HEARTNG WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Allred offered Resolution No. PC71-198 and moved for its ~assage
and adoption to grant Petition for Variance No. 2294, subject to conditions.
(See Resolution Book)
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: On roll call the fo~egoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
• AYES: CONIIKISSION~RS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood.
, NOES: COMt~iISSTOIv1~,RS: None.
ABSENT: COMidISSIONERS: Rowland, Seymour.
RECLASSIFICATION - PUBLIC HEARING. CARL M. BERG, ET AL, 5523 North Burton
_-. .:. NO. 71-72-17 Avenue, San Gabriel, California, (Mvners; BUTLER HOUSTNG
:~-`~. ..,,;: CORP., DOUGLAS HOON, 2263 West Lincoln Avenue, Anaheim,
?' ~ California, Agent; requesting that property described as:
'~ A rectangularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 4.6 acres
~~ ; generally located at the southeast corner of Kraemer Boulevard and Orange-
~~ thorpe Avenue, having approximate frontages of 1,250 feet on the south side
1 of Orangethorpe Avenue and 150 feet on the east side of Kraemer Boulevard
~ be reclassified from the M-1, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, ZONE to the R-3, MULTIPLE-
FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, ZONE.
_ 1 Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel reviewed the location of subject
property, uses established in close proximity, previous zoning action on the
property, and the proposal to establish a 68-unit, multiple-family apartment
~ complex comprised of 17 fourplex units; that the plans indicated a 21-foot
'~ alley along the flood control channel, which would provide access to the
''~ garages proposed to be located on the south side of each lot; that a tentative
~ map had not been submitted with this request, however, one would be required
~ for the propasal; that the Anaheim General Plan projected the area under
!~ conside3_ation as being appropriate for industrial development as part of the
"~ D~ortheast industrial Area; that because of the unusual shape and size of this
~~ parce.l, this could tend to discourage a major industrial tenant on the property
and could encourage a form of strip industrial wherein only smali industrial
:j compl~xes would fr~nt onto Orangethorpe Avenue, and together witti the fact that
N the Orange County Flood Control channel was located on the southerly boundary
._~ of the property, this could be considered an effective buffer between indus-
trial uses to the south and the proposal. Therefore, the Commission would
wish to determine whether the long-standing policy of not encroaching into the
:~ industrial area and preservation of the integrity of the industrial area should
•:~ be upheld.
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, [ Mr. Merrill Butler, representing the agent for the etitioner a
P , ppeared before
'~ the Commission, noting that he had the property in escrow pending zoning with
the Berg family; that under Butler-Harbour Company he had built several
thousands of homes in Anaheim; that the proposal would establish an inter-
mediate-type dEVelopment between the single-family homes on the north side of
Orangethorpe Avenue and the industrial area to the south of the flood control
channel; that they were proposing 17 fourplexes; axid trat the colored render-
ings being presented would give the elevations and plot plan. Furthermore,
only one three-bedroom unit was proposed for each fourplex, which would be
the single-story portion of each fourplex with two-story units in the rear;
that there would be no windows facing Orangethorpe Avenue, therefore, no
invasion of privacy would be experienced by the residents on the north side
' of Orangethorpe Avenue; that they planned to sell these fourplexes, and usually
- the owner would live in the three-bedroom unit while renting out the other
units; that normally he would agree that the integrity of the Northeast
Industrial Area should be maintained, but in this instance where property had
`' a street and single-family homes on the north, a street on the west, and a
! flood control channel on the south, it would appear that the proposed use
~ would be more appropriate; and that they had made a marketing study which
~ indicated there would be successful sales for this type of facility.
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~; Commissioner Herbst inquired what type of treatment was proposed to screen
'' the Orange County Flood Control channel since he was concerned primarily with
protecting the industrial integrity of the area, not the residential properties.
Mr. Butler replied that a chainlink fence existed, but they would consider
i constructing a 6-foot masonry wall, although in the past the Orange County
Flood Control District had expressed opposition to such a wall.
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Commissioner Herbst observed that the City recognizec," ±*;~.c::, - was the best
buffer between residential and industrial uses, and ':. ~" ~.;~r: :,.~~; ~, ~~,Qner proposed
to back up to the channel, he would expect the devew;.xx:r-~ ~•,~ , ~; ;3~ the neces-
sary protection to the industrial property rather th~::~ rh. -,:~:.:~~,-~se., since
this would be an encroachment into the industrial ar.:::, ;~::~*,.~: y`~ *:~c~ the developer
proposed to sell these fourplexes, this would be a di~~`•~s ~~.~~.;~:; 4~;...~ situation
than normally experienced because this would be someone's home for at least
..-:,,,_ one miit - therefore, a 6-foot masonry wall would be necessary, and in addi-
'"~'- tion to that, a landscaping treatment of trees and other high shrubbery
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`~ ' kir. Butler inquired whether Commissioner Herbst was suggesting a line of trees
,{. along the rear as well as the tree they proposed to plant for each ]~t in the
~_ E; front.
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Commissioner Herbst stated-he hazl always considered this entire area as prime
, industrial property; however, since the area already had encroachment of
~' single-family homes on 5000-•square foot lots and in order to maintain space
; as an adequate buffer between residential anGt in3ustrial uses, perhaps the
i Comnission should consider the Orange County Flood Contr~l channel as the
~ buffer line, and since the proposal was an enaroachment into the industrial
~ area, the developer of the R-3 property then should be required to provide
, the necessary screening techniques if subject petition were approved.
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Mr. William Phelps, the designer of the project, appeared before the C:::tanission
~ and reviewed the proposal, noting that the proposal would have five~car garages
:._~ for each fourplex; that courtyard areas were grovided internally, both for
the second floor and the first floor; and that because of the depth of the
-~ property, it was possible to request waiver of the required front yard setback
in order ~o provide more buffering in the rear, as suggested by the Commission.
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-i Commissioner Herbst noted that because it was just as important to provide •the
proper living environment, since this development had a balcony overlooking
the flood control channel and the prospect of industrial plants to the south
of the channel, it was his opinion that it would be advantageous to the people
living in these units to be able to look at the trees and shrubbery rather
`i than a ditch and industrial plants.
'E Discu$sion was held by the Commission and the designer regarding the possible
`'~'~ reduction of the front setback to provide additi.onal space for the landscaping
along the south property line.
„ Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts advised the Cammission that according to the '
- plans there was a 25-foot setback, whereas Code permitted a 20-foot setback;
therefpre, there would be no need for a variance, and the second story proposed ~
was 153 feet from the single-family homes to the north, therefore, their build-
ings could be shifted 3 feet farther. to the north, which would be adequate ~
: space for landscaping proposed along the south side by the Commission.
'.:~i Office Engineer Jay Titus advised the Commission that there would be trouble
~vith the maintenance of the property between the alley and the flood control
channel, and the City did not want to assume the responsibility of maintenance
of the landscaping. Therefore, he would suggest that this be a private alley,
and mutual easements could be recorded which, then, would place the responsi-
bility of maintaining the landscaping on the individual owners of the four-
plexes.
Mr. Butler commented that it would be a problem to keep the alley clean if it
were a private alley, but this was not an insurmountable problem.
Mr. Titus noted that the City did not normally maintain alleys throughout the
city; therefore, it would be assumed this alley, too, would not be maintained.
Commissioner Kaywood inquired whether or not it was proposed to have windows
from the second story facing south; whereupon Mr. Phelps replied there would be
only kitchen windows since the bedroom windows would face the courtyard, and
then reviewed the plans of the second-floor units for the Commission, noting
further that t~e courtyards would have 50 feet between buildings, and the
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A letter of oppositon from North American Autonetics opposing any further
encroachment into the industrial area was read to the Commission.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
- Deputy City Attorney Frank Lowry noted for the Commission that the City
Attorney's office did not accept public alleys where said alleys would have
,;, :'~ walls and landscaping on the opposite side, particularly where maintenance
~ of the landscaping would be required. Therefore, he would suggest that the
;~; ;~. property line be continued to and through the wall, and that mutual access
easements for ingress and egress be entered into by the owners.
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- Mr. Butler indicated this would be agreeable with him.
Co~nissioner Allred reguested that the Commission discuss this proposal before
'` any action was taken by the Commission; that he would agree with the state-
ments made by Autonetics that this wo~:ld be further encroachment into the
industrial area; that sev~~al years ago the industrial area was extended all
the way to Crowther Avenue, but after a request for R-3 zoning h~ad been denied
~ by ~he Planning Commis~ion and approved by the City Council, the statement was
~ ma~7-e by the Council thnt the M-1 boundaries should be held at Orangethorpe
~ Avenu~ - now it appeared the Commission was considering moving this boundary
to ilie flood control channel - even though there was vacant industrial property
to the south, the City would now be jumping across Orangethorpe Avenue.
Therefore, would there be any reason to deny any future requests from the
proper~ies to the south of the flood control channel for residential uses.
~:~ Furthermore, since Commissioner Herbst had always requested that the City
maintain the integrity of the Northeast Industrial Area and subject property '
tou7d be developed for M-1 with many small units that he had seen develop j
before off major streets, there would be no more traffic problems presented
than if this property were developed for R-3; that as long as the City had ~
gone ttsis 1on~ in maintaining the integrity of the industrial area and its i
`' boundary at Orangethorpe Avenu~, he could see no reason for permitting any
~~ further encroa~ahment to the south.
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~ Chairman Farana observed that usually when properties had been separated into '
,,~ two individual par~els by way of the flood control channel, in all likelihood
.,~ the property owner having given up his gr~perty to the Orange County Flood
';;~ Control District I~ad received ample compensation, and because of this sub-
divison, there was very limited use for this property, and there might be
problems in developing it for M-1 uses.
Commissioner Herbst then stated that if he thought the integrity of the
industrial area was being violated, he would be against this, but as he looked
at this property, he could not eiivision this as industrial property since the
City Council deemed the property to the north for residential uses, said
_ action had affected the types of uses that could be placed on subject property.
Furthermore, the R-3 could provide additional buffering for the single-family
. homes, and he could not think of any other parcel in the Northeast Industrial
Area which had the same type of problems. In addition, there would be no
additional traffic from either this use or M-1 use, and since the developer
~ had indicated he would plant trees in addition to constructing a wall, this
. f would provide additional buffer~ng for the residents of these units.
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; ~! Mr. Titus, in response to a question by the Commission rec~ardinq eminent
± ~' domain for the flood control channel, stated he did not kiiow whether this
method of acquiring the property had been used by the Flood Control District,
but he could assure the Commission that the owners had been amply compensated
for the land accordingly,
Chairman Farano then observed that maybe the property owr~er to the south
~ would state he would provide the 60-foot buffer strip if g•ranted R-3 - this,
then, would mean further encroachment into the M-1 area, a:~3 where would it
all end.
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Commissioner Herbst advised Chairman Farano that this was not likely since
economics would dictate how the developer could use the property. Further-
more, in the past he had been very adamantly opposed to any encroachment into
the industrial areas of Anaheim, ar_~? the proposal could be similar to that
considered by the Planning Commission and City Council for the property an
the south side of Ball Road, east of State College Boulevard.
Commissioner Allred stated that if the developer had proposed this as a
planned unit development and retained ownership in the property rather than
proposing to have 17 different property owners, then he might give this more
favorable consideration, but he had seen so many of these types of four to
eight-unit complexes sold off - for instance, those on Jefferson Street -
which became an eyesore to the residents and visitors in Anaheim, and he
would not vote for any similar type of development in Anaheim any more, and
that since the City for several years had retained Orangethorpe Avenue as a
boundary to provide the necessary buffering between the residential and
industrial uses, it should remain that way.
Commissioner Herbst noted that his only concern in considering R-3 for subject
property was the fact that the plans originally presented and considered
acceptable by the Planning Commission were never developed, even though
Mr. Butler indicated he would be the developer.
Commissioner Allred offere3 Resolution No. PC71-199 and moved for its passage
and adoption to recommend to the City Council disapproval of Petition for
Reclassification No. 71-72-17 on the basis that this would be further resi-
dential encroachment into an area designated and set aside for industrial
development; that the City Council in the past had designated Orangethorpe
Avenue as the logical boundary between the industrial and non-industrial uses,
therefore, this should be maintained in order that the existing industrial
complexes and future industrial developers might be assured that no incompatible
land uses would be mixed with the industrial development, since noise, odors,
dust, hours of operation and traffic problems inherent with industrial develop-
ments made them incompatible with residential uses; and that the area should
be retained for industrial development. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was gassed by the following vote:
AYES: ~COMMiSSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Itaywood.
NOES: i~OMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: ~ODiMISSIONERS: Ro~~land, Seymour.
WORK SESSION - Chairman Farano inquired of Assistant Development Services
Director Ronald Thompson haw staff was progressing with '
material which the Commission had discussed at their last
work session, so that another work session could be scheduled prior to meeting
with the City Council.
Mr. Thompson stated that because of a shortage of staff, not too much progress
had been made. However, if the Chairman wanted another work session ir. the
very near future, he would try to rush these projects along.
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Chairman Farano, after di~cussion with the other Commissioners, set a wnrk '
session for November 3, 1971, at 7:30 P.M. I
SPECIAL REPORT - Deput~• City Attorney Frank Lowry noted for the Commission
,I that the special report requested by Commissioner Seymour ~
; was available, but since Commissioner Seymour was not ~
pres~nt, he would de£er presenting the report until the i
next meeting. j
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ADJOURNMENT - There being no further business to discuss, Commissioner
Allred offered a motion to adjourn the meeting.
~ Commissioner Herbst seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED.
` The meeting acljourned at 4:10 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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