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City Hall
Anaheim, California
May 15, 1972
A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR - A regular meeting of the Anaheim City Plannzng Commission was
MEETING called to order by Chairman Farano at 2:00 p.m., a quorum
being present.
PRESENT - CHAIRMAN: Farano.
- COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Rowland (who
entered the Council Chamber at 2:03 p.m.),
Seymo'ur.
ABS~NT - COMMISSIONERS: None.
PRESENT - Assistant Development Services Director: Ronald Thompson
Deputy City Attorney: Frank Lowry
Office Engineer: Jay Titus
Zoning Supervisor: Charles Roberts
Assistant Zoning Sugervisor: Don McDaniel
Commission Secretary: Ann Krebs
PLEDGE OF - Commissioner Herbst led in the Pledqe of Allegiance to the
ALLEGIANCE Flag.
APPROVAL OF - Commissioner Kaywood offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner
THE MINUTES Allred an~ MOTIOIJ CARRIED, to approve the minutes of the meeting
of April 17, 1972, subject to the following corxections:
Pg. 72-176, para. 1, line 12 should read: "be no jai alai nor
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roller derbies since....
Pg. 72-184, para. 2, line 4 sh~uld read: "that a similar opera-
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tion called La Casta was....
Pg. 72-193, para. 1, line 5 should re~d: "....not really beinq
con-"
Pg. 72-195, para. 2, line 10 should read: "where they hacl
15,000 square feet and 75 parking spaces,
and at Christmas only did they have a
parking"
Pq. 72-195, para. 2, line 13 should read: "....similar to the
Sawdust Eestival at Laguna"
pg. 72-206, para. 1 and 2, lines 14 and 5 change from "prece-
den~' to "precedenQ~.
Pg. 72-213, last line of page should read: "homes next door to
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each other of $10 to $12,000, but....
Pg. 72-218, para. 2, line 1 should read: "Commissioner Rowland."
pq, 72-218, para. 4, line 2 should read: ".-,..on the present
used car-recreation vehicle"
ENVIRONMENTAL - Review of Environmental Impact Report prepared by Koebig
IMPACT REPOFcT and Koebig, Inc. for the Orange County Flood Control
District for the Santa Ana River in an area located
between Balz Road and Imperial Highway.
Assistant Development Services Director Ronald Thompson reviewed for the
Planning Commission the report ta the Commission regarding the study made for
the Orange County Flood Control i~istrict regarding levees, flood control,
channels, and water spreading basins as it pertained ta the Community Goals,
Parks, Recreation and Open Space Element, Storm Dzain System Element, and the
Watez Distribution Systea Element of the Anaheim General ~lan, noting that
the representatives of the Orange County Flood Control District and staff had
met with the Commission previously, at which time the detailed report had been
reviewed; that the Planning Commission, after having discussed said report
with the aforementioned representatives, @etermined the project proposed by
the Orange County Flood Control District would appear to be highly beneficial
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MINUTES, CII'Y PLANNING COMMISSION, May Z5, 1972 ~Z'268
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT (Continued)
in providing for needed flood control, ground water recharge, open space,
enhancement and recreational opportunities for both the City of Anaheim and
the Region; and that it might be in order for the Commission to make their
recommendations to the City Council regarding their findings, includinq the
Commission's concern pertaining to the problems of water quality as supported
by the City Cauncil when the General tlanager of the Orange County Water District
appeared before them May 9, 1972, regarding a complaint to the State Supreme
Court for a review of the practices of both the Regional and State Water Quality
Boards concerning upstream discharges into the Santa Ana River.
The Commission expressed the opinion that this would be a step in the ri3ht
direction, since staff had recommended preservation of the wildlife and ecologyt
and that staff's recommendations be recommended for adoption, including the
Planning Commission's concern regarding the water quality.
Commissioner Seymour offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Kaywood and
MOTION CARRIED, to recoramend to the City Council thac the Environmental Impact
Report for the Santa Ana River in an area located between Ball Road and Impezial
Highway as prepared for the Orange County Flood Control District by Koebig and
Koebig, Inc. is in close conformance with the adopted Anaheim General Plan; that
the proposed project will be beneficial to the environment; and that staff be
directed to resolve the concern regarding water quality with the Orange County
Water District and the responsible agencies.
CONDITIONAL USE - PUBLIC HEARING. WILTOWER PROPERmIES, 1010 Wilshire Boule-
PERMIT NO. 1311 vard, Los Angeles, California 90017, Owner; ROBERT BURGLIN
AND SAM ITAYA, 14571 Brookhurst Street, Westminster,
California 92683, Agents; requesting permission to RE-
ESTABLISH A CARWASH AND AN AUTOMOBILE SERVICE STATZON WITHIN 75 FEET OF A
RESIDENTIAL ZONE on property described as: An irregularly-shaped parcel of
land havinq frontages of approximately 180 feet on the south side of Lincoln
Avenue and 180 feet on the west side of State College Boulevard and being
located at the southwest corner of Lincoln Avenue and State College Boulevard,
and further described as 201 South State College Soulevard. Property presently
classified C-1, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, AND C-3, HEAVY COMMERCIAL, ZONES.
Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel noted that the petitioner had requested
a two-week continuance in order to resolve various design problems on this site.
A showing of hands indicated several persons present in opposition, said persons
indicating they would be present at the next meeting tu voice their opposition.
The Commission then stated that the item should be scheduled as the first item
on the afternoon agenda.
Commissioner Kaywoo~'i.offered a motion to continue consideration of Petition for
Conditional Use Permi.t No. 1311 to the meeting.of May 31, 1972, as requested by
the petitioner. Commissioner Herbst seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED.
RECLASSIFICATZON - CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING. MELVIN SCHANTZ, 1741 West
N0. 7i-72-41 Katella Avenue, Anaheim. California 92804, Owner; H.:!.5.
AIR CONDITIONING CORP., P• O. Sox 1532, Orange, California
VARIANCE NO. 2351 92668, Agent; property described as: An irregularly-shaped
parcel of land consisting of approximately 3.5 acres being
the northwest corner of Miraloma Avenue and the Orange
Freeway, having £rontages of approximately 640 feet on the west side of the
Orange Freeway and 163 feet on the north side of Mi=aloma Avenue. Proper±y
presently classified R-A, AGRICULTURAL, ZONE.
REQUESTED CLASSIFICATION: R-3, MULTIPLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL~ ZONE.
REQUESTED VARIANCE: WAIVER OF (1) MINIMUM FLOOR AREA. ~Z) MINIMUM DISTANCE
BETWEEN BUILDIIiGS, AND (3) LOCATION OF STORAGE AREA TO
PERMZT CONSTRUCTION OF A 96-UNZT APARTMENT COMPLEX.
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MINUTES, CITY PLANNSNG COMMISSION, May 15, 1972 72-269
RECLASSIFICATION NQ. 7_1-72-41 AND VARZANCE NO. 235i (Continued)
Subject petitiSns were continued from the April 17, 1972 meeting to allow the
petitioner time to revise his plans.
Chairman Farano reopened the hearing since the petitioner had submitted
revised plans that were substantially different than originally considered by
the Planning Commission.
Mr. Dave Mayer, agent for the petitioner, appeared before the Commission,
stating that he and his designer had met with staff in order to determine
how the plans could be resolved and wished to compliment the staff and the
Commission for doing him a service as it pertained to changes sugqested because
he would not have been able to obtain financing for the project otherwise; that
he had met with the Division of Highways regarding the layout of the berm on
the Oranqe Freeway right-of-way and arrived a~ a 5 to 6-foot berm which would
be landscaped with a fence on top; that the buildings were further recessed,
and the layovt now proposed was a considerable improvement. Furthermore,
circulation had been improved by adding two turn-around areas, while the one-
bedroom units were now increased to the minimum required, therefore, this
waiver was being withdrawn. In addition, the storage areas proposed were
considezably more than the minimum requirement of 100 cubic feet, although
they still were not being located in the carport areas.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Seymour noted that it was difficult to determine from the plans
whether any of these units were parallel to the freeway and would have freeway
exposure since the building was only 13 feet from the riyht-of-way; whereupon
Mr. Mayer replied by indicating on the plans where the units referred to would
be located and where windows would be placed, stating that all units would be
overlooking a green area; that it was their intent to insulate both the walls
and ceilings; and that two of the buildings would have no openings toward the
freeway.
Commissioner Seymour observed that although the petiticner indicated the walls
and ceilings would be insulated, this did nothing for the windows, and inquired
what would be done to reduce the noise from the freeway throuqh the windows.
Mr. Tony Ruiz, building designer for the proposed development, replying to the
question by the Commission as to the landscaping and the berm toward the free-
way, stated that this could be resolved with the State, howevez, they intended
to have the berm facing the residential development landscaped by the developer
and possibly that berming portion facing the freeway would be landscaped by the
State.
2oning Supervisor Charles Roberts advised the Commission that the City had only
a verbal approval by telephone from the State Division o£ Highways rPgarding
Condition No. 3, and some written documentation would be necessary.
Commissioner Kaywood inquired whether or not the petitioner would stipulate to
providing double windows on those windows facing the freeway in order to reduce
the noise factor; whereupon Mr. Mayer stipulated to providing double windows,
stating that all units would be air conditioned, therefore, the windows would
not be opened.
Commissioner Seymour offered Resolution No. PC72-94 and moved for its passage
and adoption to recommend to the City Council that Petition for Reclassification
No. 71-72-41 be approved subject to conditions, amending Condition No. 3 to
require that any bezmin3 proposed on the freeway property shall be subject to
approval of the Oivision of Hiqhways. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution wa5 passed by the ful"owing vote:
AYF.S: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland. '
ABSENi: COMMISSIONERS: None.
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RECLASSIFICATION_NO. 71-72-41 AND VARIANCE NO. 2351 (Con±inued)
Commissioner Seymour offered Resolution No. PC72-95 and moved for its passage
and adoption to grant Petition for Variance No. 2351, in part, eliminating
the request for waiver of the minimum floor area since the petitioner withdrew
this waiver request; subject to stipulation by the petitioner that both walls
and ceilings woul3 be insulated on the entire project and double windows pro-
vided for the units adjacent to the freeway to provide additional sound bn^.fer-
ing from the freeway noises; and subj~ct to conditions. (See Resolution Bcok)
On roll call the foregoinq resolutior. was passed by the followinq vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano. Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
Commiasioner Rowland left the Council Chamber at 2:20 p.m.
CONDITZONAL USE - CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING. VILLA FRONTERA TOWNHOUSES~
PERMIT NO. 1303 P. O. Box 3236, Anaheim, California 92803, Owner; ARMOUR
BUILDING COMPANY, P• O. Box 3236, Anaheim, California
TENTATIVE MAP OF 92803, Aqent; prope.rty described as: An irregularly-
TRACT NO. 7802, shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 14.6
REVISION NO. 1 acres, having a frontage of approximately 595 feet on the
south side of Frontera Street, having a maximum depth o£
approximately 1,200 feet, and being the southwest corner
of Frontera and Armando Streets. Property presently classified R-A(O),
AGRZCULTURAL (OIL PRODUCTION)~ ZONE.
REQUESTED CONDITIONHL USE: CONSTRUCT A 160-UNIT PLANNED RESIDENTZAL DEVELOP-
MENT WITH WAIVER OF (1) REQUIREMENT THA1 A LOT
MUST ABUT A PUBLZC STREET~ (2) MINIMUM BUILDING
6Ii'E AREA, ~3) MAXIMUM HEIGHT W2THIIN 150 FEET OF
S7P.GLE-FAMILY RESIDEI9TIAL ZONE~ (5) MINIMUM
ARTERIAL HIGHWAY BUIE.DING SETBACK~ (6) 6-FOOT
SOLIII MASONRY WALL R1:QUIREMENT~ AND (7) MINIMUM
LOCAL STREET BUILDING SETBACK.
TENTATIVE TRACT PROPOSAL: DEVELOPER: ARMOUR BIJII;DING COMPANY, P. O. Sox 3236,
Anaheim, California ~2803. ENGINEER: Applied Plan-
ning Dynamics, 17802 Irvine Boulevard, Tustin,
California 92664t praposing to subdivide su5ject
pzoperty into 162 pla~nned residential develo~.ment
zoned lots.
Subject petition and tract were continued from tYie April 3 and 17, 1972 meetings
to allow the petitioner time to revise his plans.
Chairman Farano inquired whetTter there was anyonc; present in opposition and
received no response.
Although the Report to the Commission was not read at the public hearing, it is
referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Mr. Larry Armour, agent for the petitioner, appeared befoxe the Commission and
stated that they had worked with staff since their last public hearing on
subject petition and completely revised their proposal, taking into considera-
tion the suggestions made by the Commission, and complimented the staff on their
cooperation, interest, and professional helpr which he felt should receive their
appreciation and commendation, and that he would prefer the architect review the
changes since he had done yeoman work on it.
Mr. Marvin Renfro, architect representing the engineer of the tract, appeared
before the Commission, noting that they had changed their fourplex-duplex plan
having two-car garages attached and were now propasi.ng duplexes; that paving in
the area had been reduced by almost 2 acres, and the density was also reduced
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CONDITIONAL DSE PERMIT NO. 1303 AIQD TENTATIVE MAP OF TRi~CT NO. 7802~ REVISION
NO. 1 (Continued)
from 176 units to 160, and this was placed into the green area and the recrea-
tion areass that the proposal would be done in three increments, with Jackaon
Street still providing access, having 53 units to the northt that a private
street would parallel Jackson Street where 61 units would be located between
Jackson Street and the private street, and to the south there would be 46 units;
that each section of units would have their recreation area so that there would
be no need to cross over a street to gain access to the reczeation area; that
this was a compatible concept that was totally foreign to what was presented
previously, and then presented and reviewed a blow-up of a typical unit areat
that there was almost a 3:1 ra.tio for parking since there wou13 be no parkinq
in the public right-of-way; that the units would be basically the same; and
that there would be single-story structures at the entrance, with two-story to
the rear.
THE HEAR?NG WAS CLOSED.
The Commissian commented that the revised plan~ were quite an improvement and
that they appreciated the cooperation of the petitioner since it was felt a
yeoman job had been done, having a development that would be considerably more
attractive.
Commissioner Allred inquired as to the distance between this two-story develop-
ment and the R-1; whereupon Mr. Renfro stated that 8 units would be within 150
feet of the R-1 property line, however, the buildings would be more than 150
feet from the single~family dwelling unit itself.
Commissioner Seymour offered Resolution No. PC72-96 and moved for its passage
and adoption to grant Petition for Conditional Use Permit No. 1303 with the
waivers requested, except that the petitioner had withdrawn waiver a£ the
6-foot masonry wall and the minimum setback from a local street, with a finding
that the waiver of the one-story height limitation within 150 feet of the R-1
was granted on the basis that the odd shape of the R-1 parcel and subject
property made a tip of the parcel fall within this 150 feet, however, the units
were set back considerably more than 150 feet from the single-family hom^.
therefore, no precedent was being established, and subject to conditions. (See
Resolution Bouk)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland.
Commissioner Gauer offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Aerbst and
MOT:ON CARRIED (Commissioner Rowland being absent), to grant Tentative Map
of :ract No. 7802, Revision No. l, subject to the following conditions:
(1) That the approval of Tentative Map of Tract No. 7802, Revision No. 1,
is granted subject to the approval of Reclassification No. 68-69-13
and Conditional Use Permit tdo. 1303.
(2) That should this subdivision be developed as more than one sub-
division, each subdivision thereof shall be submitted in tentative
form for approval.
(3) That all lots within this tract shall be served by underground
utilities.
(4) That a final tract map of subject property shall b~ submitted to
and approved by the City Council and then be recorded in the
office of the Orange County Recorder.
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CONDITIONAL USE PER1~:~T N0. 1303 AND TENTATIVE MAP OF TRACT NO. 7802, REVISION
NO. 1 (COntinued)
(5) That the covenants, conditions, and restrictions shall be submitted
t-• ~.:' approved by the City Attorney's Office prior to City Council
. 1 of the final tract map, and, Purther, that the approved
,.. ,.. conditions, and restrictions shall be recorded con-
.:,,~r•c.',~ . -ith the final tract map.
(() »ners of subject property shall pay to the City of
.... ~ th:~ appropriate park and recreation in-lieu fees as
. .•.•~':3 to be appropriate by the C;ity Council, said fees to
be paid at the time the building permit is issued.
(7) That drainage of subject tract shall be disposed of in a manner
satisfactory to the City Engineer.
(8) That the developer initiate the abandonment of Armando Circle
which was dedicated with Tract No. 7185 and pay the normal fees
therefor.
(9) That the existing sewer line west of Armando Street shall be
reconstructed on a new alignment as approved by the City Engineer,
the existing sewer easement abandoned and a new sewer easement
dedicated to the City.
(10) That a standard or off-set cul-de-sac be constructed by the
developer at the southerly end of Armando Street.
CONDITIONAL USE - PUBLI~ ~F.RING. STL'ART D. NOBLE, 25181 Manzanita Drive,
PERMIT NO. 1310 Dana F•_,int, California 92629. Owner: WILLIr:, SIZEMORE,
31R West Ball Road, Anaheim, California 92805, Aqent;
requesting permission to ESTABLISH A REAL ESTATE SCHOOL IN
CONJUNCTION WITA AN EXISTING REAL ESTATE OFFICE WITH WAIVER OF MINIMUM NUMBER
OF PARKING SPACES on property described as: A rectangularly-shaped ~arcel of
land having a frontage of approximately 64 feet on the south side of Sall Road,
having a maximum depth of approximately 94 feet and being located approximately
920 feet east of the cente~line of Fiarbor Boulevard and further described as
318 West Ball Road. Property presently classified C-O, COMMERCIAL OFFICE, ZUNE.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone present in opposition and
received no response.
Although the Report to the Commission was not sead at the public hearing, it is
re£erred to and made a part of the minutes.
Mr. William Sizemore, agent for the petitioner and director and owner of the
real estate school, appeared before the Commis:.ion and stated these real estate
school classes were held in the evening Monday~ and Thursdays from 7:00 p.m. to
10:00 p.m., and there were 15 tn 25 students, however, at no time would there
be any attendance of more than 30 students per evening.
Mr. Stuart Noble, the petitioner, appeared before the Commission and noted
that sta£f indicated the parking requirements were insufficient, liowevez, when
the City Council approved C-O zoning on the property on Ball Road, he had
opposed it; that the 416-square foot room would not create any parking problem,
any more than other similar type schools had created; and then reviewed the
square footage and parking provided for the Orange County Business School,
notinq that addi.tior.al commeccial uses increased the number of parking spaces,
the Sawyer Business School, the Anthony Schools, etc., and then stated that
if the parking required for the proposed use were applied to the other schools,
they, too, would have a deficiency; that it would be very difficult to provide
these 42 parking spaces for the 15 to 25 students; that Sall Road had now been
widened and improved; that the agent had been using this building for his
school in the past and there had been no complaints from the adjoining commer-
cial or residential uses; and that the other uses were a real estate office
when the school was not in session and an answering service run by one person.
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 1310 (Continued)
Commissioner Rowland returned to the Council Chamber at 2:36 p.m.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Discussion was held by Chairman Farano and Mr. Noble regardinq the figuzes
quoted for other schools.
Commissioner Herbst inquired why this petition was befcre the Commission now
after the school had been in operation for a year.
Mr. Noble replied that the agent had a chance to obtain the franchise of the
Chamberlain Real Estate School and would have to obtain a license by the State,
therefore, they had to have the proper zoning permit for the use.
The Commission inquired where the majority of these students would park;
whereupon Mr. Noble stated that they parked on Hall Road since there were only
6 spaces available on the site, but the building next door, also owned by him,
had 6 additional spaces since they had no eveninq hours; and that just because
this would now be a State licensed school, they wanted to comply with the
zoning.
Continued discussion was held by the Commission and Mr. Noble regarding the
proposal and need for waiving the parking requirements compared with other
schools.
Commissioner Seymour inquired why there was a requirement af the number of
spaces; whereupon Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts read the zoning code
requirement and noted it was also a building code requirement, namely, that of
10 square feet of area was necessary for each student, therefore, if a 416-
square foot area were used, this would represent 42 students, and perhaps the
Commission might wish to take into consider.:tion the statement by the agent
that there would be no more than 30 students if the waiver were permitted by
limiting the number of students.
Commissioner Seymour then inquired about the deficiencies noted by Mr. Noble
of other schools and inquired why this was so; whereupon Mr. Roberts stated
he did not know there was any school which did not provide adequate parking,
although there had been a school on Brookhurst Street which appeared to have
a parking shortage, and they later resolved this by acquiring more land for
parking purposes.
CommisGioner Kaywood inquired whether the students arrived individually, or
would some double up; whereupon Mr. Sizemore stated most arrived individually
except where there might be a husband and wife attending at the same time; and
that they kept their classes small because of the facilities znd the individual
instruction given.
Chairman Farano inquired as to whether there were any complaints on the other
schools; whereupon Mr. Roberts stated there had been quite a number of co:.~plaints
on the Brookhurst Street school, but since they had provided the additional
parking, there were no more complaints.
Continued discussion was held by the Commission on a means of approvinq subject
petition or denying it, based upon the fact that this was C-O zoning and maybe
the use was not in the proper place since this miqht lead to similar requests
from other single-family homes being converted for waiver of any required
parking, and the C-O Zone had been established on the properties in this area
to encourage land assemblyr which apparently appeared not to be happening.
Mr. Roberts noted that although he did not know the exact nature of the schools
and their needs as set forth by Mr. Noble, perhaps in calculating the parking
needs, the qross floor area was taken into consideration with the number of
students, therefore, the parking would not be deficient.
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CONDITIONAL USE__PERMIT NO. 1310 (Continued)
Commissioner Gauer inquired whether the Commis~ion could establish a time limit
to determine at the end of said time limit that the use was not creating any
problem, since he would not like to deprive this petitioner the opportun~ty
to have his school.
The Commission then discussed this suggestion and concluded that the Commission
would be faced with similar deficiencies from parking requirements of the other
properties in this area, as well as throughout the city, in similar situations.
Commissioner Herbst offered Resolution No. PC72-97 and moved for its passage
and adop±ion to deny Petition for Conditional Use Permit No. 1310 on the basis
that the C-O Zone was established on properties on the south side of Ball Road
easterl? of Palm Street in order to encourage land assembly for construction
of office huildings; that the use would establish an additional use in this
building, creating serious parking shortages that would be detrimental to the
adjoining land uses of commercial and residential; that the petitioner did
not submit substantiating evidence to warrant favorable consideration of waiver
of almost 70~ o£ the required parking; and that granting said waiver would
establish an und~_sirable precedent for similar parking waivers from other homes
being converted into C-O, commercial uses, and such parking deficiency would be
extremely harmful bccause parking could occur on the residential street abutting
the alley south of the Ball Road properties. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Herbst, Kaywood.
NOES: COMMISSTONERS: Farano, Gauer.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSTAIN: COMMISSIONERS: Rowland, Seymour.
Commissioner Seymour stated he was abstaining from voting because he did
business with this school.
CONDITIONAL USE - PUBL7C HEARING. HORACE E. MORELOCK, ET AL, 264 Granada
PERMIT NO. 1313 Street, Long Beach, California 90803 AND GEORGE A. COLEMAN,
16651 Yorba Linda Boulevard, Yorba Linda, California 92686,
TENTATIVE MAP OF Owners; PALM DESERT BUILDERS, INC., 5435 West 76th Street,
TRACT N0. 7876 Los Angeles, California 90045, Agent7 requesting permission
to ESTABLISH AN 80-UNIT PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
WITFI WAIVERS OF (1) LOT FRONTAGE ON A D~DICATED STREET~
(2) MINIMUM Bt7ILDING SITE AREA~ (3) MINIMUM BUILDING SITE WIDTH, AND (4)
MINIMUM DISTANCE BETWEEN BUILDINGS on property described as: h rectangularly-
shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 6.7 acres, having a frontage
of approximately 528 feet on the north side of Orangethorpe Avenue, having a
maximum depth of approximately 510 feet and being located at the northeast
corner of Orangethorpe Avenue and Kellogg Drive. Property presently classified
R-3, MULTIPLE-FAMZLY RESIDENTIAL~ ZONE.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone present in opposition, and
three persons indicated their presence.
No one appeared to represent the petitioner.
Chairman Farano then stated this would be deferred until later in the hearing
to allow the representatives o£ the petitioner to be present. (See Page 72-276)
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VARIANCE NO. 2359 - PUSLIC HEARING. STANLEY BOVETZ, 728 South Rnott Avenue,
Anaheim, California 92804, Owner; requesting WAIVER OF
PERMITTED USES TO ALLOW TWO SZNGLE-FAMILY DWELLING UNITS
ON ONE LOT described as: A rectangularly-snaped parcel of land having a
frontage of approximately 104 feet on the east side of Kr.ott Avenue, having a
maxir~um depth of approximately 140 feet and being l~cated approximately 135
feet north of the centerline of Rome Avenue, and further described as 728
South Knott Avenue. Property presently classified R-1, ONE-FAMILY RE~IDENTIAL,
ZONE.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone in opposition and received
no response.
Althcugh t:ie Report to the Commission was not read at the public hearing, it is
referred t',o and made a part of the minutes.
Mr. Stanley Bovetz, the petitioner, appeared before the Commission and stated
that when the second building aas built, the property was R-A in the County,
and his father resided in that structure, ana :iow his mother-in-law lived
there; that the real estate agent advised him he should have a lot split of
the parcel so that in the event the property was sold or when the mother-in-
law no longer resided there it could he used for ~nother home or rental pur-
posES, this would be an added advantage for possibly a GI who would need extra
money to take care of house payments by having a second unit for rental
purposes.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
The Commission inquired whether the petitioner's mother-in-law would be con-
tinuing to resi3e in this home; whereupon Mr. Bovetz stated she would until
he could sell the property since he could not maintain it because of health
reasons, and if the property were sold, she would reside with them.
The Commission further noted that there was only one two-car garage, and if
this were to be lot split, then a garage would have to be provided for the
second unit, and inquired whether the ? .:ioner planned to construct a garage;
whereupon Mr. Sovetz stated there was a ~onsiderable amount of paving in the
back for parking purposes since he had several dv.mp tr:.cks parked there, and,
furthermore, there was a covered pat?~ that could be used as a carport.
Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts, in response to a question by the Commission,
stated that if the petition were approved and subsequently the property were
lot split, then the property owner would be required to file a lot split and
another variance because the property, being R-1, would not have the required
width or square footage.
Commiss~oner Rowland observed that since subject property was only 70 feet wide,
it would be extremely difficult to lot split it for single-family homes.
Commissioner Seymour reviewed the uses surrounding subject property, statinq
perhaps if the lot split were proposed for the property, this would be a better
way of handling this problem.
Commissioner Rowlan3 stated that the Commission had a very simple procedure
which had been functioninq since 1960, and the petitioner had not submitted
evidence of a hardship by the shape of the parcel, therefore, to approve subject
petition would be spot zoning, as Commissioner Herbst had stated in the past.
Commissioner Seymour offered a motion to approve Variance No. 2359 due to the
uniqueness of the property and its location.
On roll call the foregoing motion failed by a vote of 4 to 3, 4 votes against
and 3 in favor.
Continued discussion was held by the Commission, and upon its conclusion,
Commissioner Rowland offered Resolution No. PC7~--y8 and moved for its passage
and adoption to deny Petition for Variance No. 2359 on the basis that the
petitioner had not demonstrated a hardship existeu by the size and shape of
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VARIANCE N0. 2359 (Continued)
the parcel, and to grant subject petition would be granting a privilege not
enjoyed by other properties in this same vicinity and zone. (See Resolution
Book)
On roll call the foregaing resolution was passed by the followinq vote:
AYES: COMMISSIGNERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Rowland.
NOES: COMMISSIONE°S: Seymour.
ABSENT: C~MMISSIONERS: None.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 1313 AND TENTATIVE MAP OF TRACT NO. 7876 (Continued
from Page 72-274)
Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel reviewed the location of subject
property, uses established iii close proximity, past zoning action on the
property, and the proposal to construct a one and two-story, 80-unit planned
residential development; that it was not intended to be the type where only
air space was sold to individuals and all improvements and ground would be
held under common ownership, but, instead, each of the 80 units would be
situated on a postage-stamp lot which would be sold alonq with the dwelling
unit and garage; that the 81st lot would be open space, recreation area, and
driveways that would be held in common by the individuals who owned each lot;
that since the postage-stamp lots were being proposed, each lot would not
have frontage on a public street, and the proposed building site area and
building site width would not meet the standards established in the Zoning
Ordinance; that the applicant was providing 2 covered parking spaces per unit,
or 80 two-car garages, and had provided 30 open parking spaces for guests;
that the density proposed for the development would be approximately 13.3 units
per net acre; and that the proposed coverage would be approximately 44.4+k.
Mr. McDaniel, in evaluating the proposal, noted that the General Plan designated
this area as being appropriafe for medium density residential development, and
the existing R-3 Zone would implement this designation; that the R-3 Zone would
permit up to 36 units per net acre, and the proposed 13.3 units per net acre
would fall within the General Plan designation, however, the Planning Commission
and City Council in the past had not approved condominium developments with a
density in this range, and the average density agproved for condominiums in the
past was 10 to 12 dwelling units per net acres and that in addition to this
higher density proposal. the design required a considerable amount of asphalt
to provide access to the garages of each unit.
Mr. McDaniel further noted that the first three waivers requested were generally
attached to developments of this type and had been granted in the past for
similar projects, therefore, the Commission might wish to consider these waivers
as being appropriate in accordance with previous proposals; that the waiver £or
minimum distance between buildings was also a waiver that was attached ~o an
apartment complex and which had generally been granted in the past by the
Commission; and that the waiver for the arterial highway setback was being
requested because the buildings along Kellogg Drive were proposed to be set
back 15 feet instead of the required 20 feet, however, the project could be
redesigned and the density lowered by requiring Code setback. Furthermore,
there were other areas of deficiency in the proposed plan, namely, the drive
layout which divided the parcel into several segments, making it difficult for
an individual in any given unit to enjoy the green area and the common recrea-
tion area without crossing one or more asphalt driveways; that very few units
had direct access to the common, open recreation areas which would require small
children and adults to cross the 34-foot wide driveways to go any place in the
project, and this obvious conflict in pedestrian and vehicular circulation
would hsve to be considered a major problem; and that in light of the proposed
density, the possible conflicts of pedestrian and vehicular circulation, and
the large amounts of area devoted to paving, the Commission may wish to con-
sider this proposal to be inappropriate as propused. Thesefore, the Commission
might wish to consider requesting the petitioner to submit revised plans.
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 1313 ANP TENTATZVE MAP OF TRACT N~. 7876 (Continued)
Mr. Bowers, representing Palm Desert Builders, appeared before the Commission
and stated that they planned to have their architect present to present this
proposal, however, his mothar became very ill and thus they were unable to
contact him, and he was not familiar with the details of the plan; that they
would agree with the staff's recommendations except that he would i.ake excep-
tion to the comment regarding crossing of driveways to reach the recreation
areas, and if the Commission had reviewed the plane, there would be about or.ly
11 units where this would occur, while the balance would have direct access
to said area; and that they could stipulate people with children would r.ot
purchase these 11 units.
Mr. Douglas Johns, 1727 Sallad Drive, Yorba Linda, appeared before the Commis-
sion in opposition, noting his property was located to the east of the proposed
development, and stated that although he was a resident of Anaheim, his children
had to attend ~chool in the Placentia School District, and the children were
attending split sessions a~ the Orchard Drive Se:~ool, although another school
was proposed to be built and located to the west and could alleviate the present
overcrowded situation; that subject property was bordered on the northeast and
northwest with single-family homes, with another single-family development
being constructed farther north adjacent to the freeway, therefore, with so
many homes going in, he was concerned with the number of children that might
be coming from this proposed project, creating further congestion in the
schools.
The Commission noted that the petitioner already had R-3 zoning on the property
and could develop the property with up to 36 dwel~.ing units per net acre with-
out appear.ing before the Commission, and the school board should have planned
for additional schools because this density had been reflected on the General
Plan, and the proposal would be one-third less dense than what could be devel-
oped within the zoning on the property.
Mr. Johns then noted that the property to the north wa:~ being developed with
single-family homes, and although he would prefer the orange orchard, he also
would prefer houses on subject property so that the schools would not be over-
crowded.
The Commission noted that their only jurisdiction was that of land use, and
the school districts !~ere required to provide schools in accordance with the
General Plan densities.
The Commission also noted that if many one-bedroom units were proposed, there
would be fewer children than i£ there were three-bedroom anits, and if homes
were planned on subject property, they could be £our and five-bedroom homes,
which would mean considerably more children; and that statistics which had
been presented to the Commission indicated that apartment developments had
fewer children than single-family homes.
Mr. Johns furtlier noted that it was distasteful to him to see so much blacktop
area in this proposal, and that if there would be many children, it would
further overcrowd the schools, but they would not object if there were few
children.
Mr. J~hn Brewster, 1731 Ballard Drive. Yorba Linda, appeared before the
Commission in opposition and stated he had appeared previously when the R-3
had been considered for subject property, and he could not see ho~~ the Commis-
sion could approve apartments in the middle of single-family homes; that he
felt the City did not care what happened to the area surrounding subject
Property, and it did not have anythinq to do with planning because not long
ago a young boy had been killed. and it took the police forty minutes to arrive
at che scene; and that a condominium had been turned down on the property
farther to the east, therefore, it was unfair to other builders to approve
this proposal.
The Commission noted that the General Plan since 1965 had projected a small
commercial area on the west side of Kellogg Drive and multiple-family develop-
ment on the east side where Kellogg Drive intersected with Orangethorpe Avonue;
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that the petitioner was proposing a planned community which would reduce the
density from 36 to 14 units, and the Coa~~nission v~ould have to consider land
use, therefore, the Commission could not stop the property owner from developing
under the zoning on the property, and the Commission was trying to arrive at
a better development of the property, and a condominium was one tool which the
property owner had in developing his property under the existing zoning. Further
more, the Commission was just as concerned with the area north and east of Orange
thorpe and Kellogg Drive, although they had no control over services to the area.
Mr. Brewster was of the opinion that the proposal wou13 be unfair to the
property owners adjacent who had lived there prior to the zoning action on the
progerty, and even prior tc annexation to the City of Anaheim, and the manner
in which the proposed development was set up would allow no place for children
to play, which was very important since there ~ras no public recreation area or
park in the area.
Mr. R. J. Farrell, 1754 Ballard Drive, Yorba Linda, appeared before L•he Commis-
sion in opposition and stated that subject property had received R-3 zoning
while still in the County, and the single-family residents had not been informed
by the County about any zoning action so that they could voice their opposition,
and then inquired what the ratio of taxes ~aould be from this proposed develop-
ment compared to homes; whereupon the Commission noted that they could not
concern themselves as to taxes or schools since their only function was land
use, and if the proposed condominium were approved. this would be a better
development than i£ the property were developed with regular apartments.
Mr. Farrell then requested that the Commission deny the waivers requested by
the petitioner since he did not want a precedent to be set for all of the other
undeveloped property in this general area.
Mr. Bill Miller, 2082 Business Center Drive, Irvine, representing the two
petitioners and the developer, in rebuttal, stated the property had been aoned
for R-3 in 1969, and the development being proposed would be a better project
:or this property since prospective owners retained the property for years,
and although it was an apartment in scope, it would be single-family ownership;
that there would be professional care of the landscaping and upkeep of this
development; that the density proposed would produce a need for commercial uses,
and the property owners would like to see a small, neighborhood shopping center;
and that the conditions as set forth were in the realm of building the project,
however, he would have to go back to the architect if there were any changes
as staff suggested.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
The Commission noted that the proposal was similar to the Armour project
previously considered wherein the Commission requested revised plans and made
suggestions as to what would be desi.rable, which was reflected in their revised
plans approved by the Commission, because they were a vast improvement; and that
this developer-architect also could bring in a more desirable development b,y
submitting revised plans.
Chairman Farano noted that if the Commission were to deny subject petition and
tract, the petitioner could build immediately under the site development
standards of the R-3 Zone with considerably more units than was proposed, or
up to three times that proposed, and the Commission was not leqally able to
chanqe the existing zoning on the property unless the property owner asked for
a lower density, and regardless of whether the people in the area agreed or
disagreed with the zone on the property, the Commission could do nothing except
have some thoughts on the proposed development and the proposed density.
The Commission noted that the developers were not proposing apa:~tments for
rent, but units for sale wherein each owner would have an individual lot; that
the agent stated the landscaping and recreation area would be maintained; that
the Commission did not like small lots unless part of a planned unit develop-
ment, which were generally well maintained, and the City did not obtain any
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 1313 AND TENTATIVE MAP OF TRACT NO. 7876 (Conti~iued)
money for maintenance of landscaping; and then inquired of Deputy City Attorney
Frank Lowry whether the CC&Rs would be enforceable by the City.
Mr. Lcwry stated that ine maintenance of these properties would be 2nforceable
by the individual homeowners as members of the homeowners group; that the
developer would have to meet the City requirements as it pertained to CC&P.a for
a glanned unit development.
The Commission noted that the Armour project originally proposed a considerable
amount of asphalt, as did the proposed plan, however, the revised plans of the
Armour project indicated a considerable reduction in asphalt and converted it
to green, open space, therefore, subject petition should be continued in order
that the developer could meet with staff and attempt to revise the plans,
reducing the amount of asphalt and providing more green area and less conflicts
in the pedestrian-vehicular traffic.
Commissioner Seymour noted that he would not be interested in negotiating a
project that was poorly designed, which would not be an asset to the City of
Anaheim, and if the Commission denied this, the petitioner could develop a
very undesirable apartment complex with a considerable increase in density per
acre, however, the Commission should not be swayed too much with approving the
lesser of two evils by approving a less than desirable project; and then
inquired if the petitioner would prefer a continuance in order to meet with
staff so that revised plans could be presented to the Commission that would
resolve the pedestrian and vehicular traffic problem, reduce the density to be
more in keeping with the density approved by the Planning Commission and City
Council for planned unit developments, and reduce the amount of asphalt while
increasing the open, green areas since this would be beneficial to future
residents of thi~ proposal.
Chairman Farano suggested that in the revised plans the petitioner ahould make
every attempt to eliminate every waiver possible; that it would appear that if
the development standards were changed, reducing the density while havii., high
standards as to open area, a more desirable development would be constructed
in the city.
Commissioner Rawland noted that if this were proposed as a condominium, there
was no way the first three waivers could be resolved.
The Commission nated that the arterial setback waiver was not needed, whether
it was a foot or several feet; that the planned unit development gave the
petitioner a tool to provide a better living environment; and that the Commis-
sion had asked the developers in the past to present their plans after review-
ing the Commission's desires and working with staff.
Commissioner Allred observed that it was too bad Mr. Bowers was not present
when the Armour project was considered since Mr. Armour stated they were happy
they were required to redesign their project since it was a much more desirable
project, even though they lost some units, and Mr. Armour had praised staff for
their assistance in designing the new plans, making it a very desirable project,
therefore, he would suggest that the petitioner present revised plans that would
give more open space, green area, and less walking across streets to get to the
recreation areas.
Commissioner Kaywood offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Herbst and
MOTION CARR]:ED, to continue Petition for Conditional Use Permit No. 1313 and
Tentative Map of Tract No. 7876 to the meeting of June 12, 1972, in order to
allow time for the petitioner to meet with staff and revise plans to be more
in keeping with the Commission's suggestions.
Chairman Farano noted £or the opposition that if they were desirous of reviewing
the revised plans, they were available for the public to review and suggested
that they contact staf£ to determine when these plans would be available.
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RECESS - Commissioner Rowland moved for a ten-minute recess at
3:42 p.m.
RECONVENE - Chairman Farano reconvened the meetiny at 3:55 p.m., all
Commissioners being present.
VARIANCE N0. 2360 - EUCLID SHOPPING CENTER, 2293 WHSt Ball Road, Anaheim,
California 92804, Owner; TtiE HANDYMAN OF CALIFUP.NIA, INC.,
8372 Center Drive, La Mesa, California 92041, Aqent;
requesting WAIVER OF PERMITTED USES TO ALLOW OUTDOOR MERCHANDISE DISPLAY on
property described as: An irregularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of
approximately 5 acres having a frontage of approximate7.y 268 feet on the south
side of Katella Avenue, having a maximum depth of approximately 600 feet, and
being located approximately 1,050 feet east of the centerline of Euclid Street,
and further described as 1616 West Katella Avenue. Property presently classi-
fied C-1, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, 20NE.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone present in opposition, and
one person indicated his presence.
Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel summarized the proposal, noting th2
lor.ation of the property, the request to have outdoor e~rchandise display under
the existing canopy, and since this was not within the confines of the building
as required by the C-i Zone, the waiver was being requested; that the 1575-
square foot area was located adjacent to the existinq plant nursery and near
the entry to the store; that the applicant indicated he would be displaying
assorted plant material, a small selection of lawnmowers, a selection of out-
door storage sheds, patio furniture and barbecues; that the Planning Commission
in 1969 had approved waiver of the required 6-foot masonry wall to screen the
outdoor storage area on subject property, permitting the installation of a
24-inch high slumpstone wa]l and a 6-foot high chainlink fence to scr.een the
outdoor storage of nursery supplies; and that if the Commission felt the
requested use could be approved at this location, it might be appropriate to
extend the 24-inc.h slumpstone wall beyond its present location and encompa~s
this outdoor ui~play area also, since it might be considered an extension oi
the existing nursery. Furthermore, if it was determined that the use was
appropriate, it might be desirable to require that the live plant materials
be placed adjacent to the slumpstone wall.
Mr. Henry Hermison, 8372 Center Drive, La Mesa, representing the agent for the
petitioner, appeared before the Commission and noted that if subject petition
were granted, this would enable them to display their storage sheds, patio
furniture, etc. in a manner similar to that in and around one's own home; that
none of this merchandise would be stacked up since it would be displayed for
aesthetic purposes; that it would enhance the elevation of the building, and
the reason for wanting to display outdoors was for visibility to vehicles in
the parking lot; that the Payless Drug Store had outside sales approved where
they were required to construct a 2-foot wall, as would they on their ~~utside
display of nursery items, however, their existing wall was now 6 feet high
and visibility was zero; that it would be desirable from their viewpoint to
have this display, and they would be happy to screen the display area ::imilar
to Payless and they would be willing to have the display set up so that the
plant materials would be on the outer perimeter and the other displayed
materials would not be visible from the street.
Mr. Lynn Page, 9542 Shannon Drive, Garden Grove, appeared before the Commission
in opposition and stated his property was located on the north side of Katella
Avenue, and this particular piece of property was creating considerable noise
since they ;iad hours of operation Erom 9:00 a.m. to 9:30 p.m., seven days a
week~ that a new building was being erected near Katella Avenue, and if the
Commission approved subject petition, they should consider the people who
purchused property on Katella Avenue since this was making it impossible to
rent th~_se homes on Katella Avenue. and his request was consideration for the
five property owners when increasing the commercial uses in the area; and that
if this increase in commercial uses were continued, in all likelihood the five
homes on the north side of Katella 'lvenue would be requesting commercial uses
for their properties.
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VARIANCE N0. 2360 (Continued)
The Commission noted that the five homes on the north side of Katella Avenue
across from subject property were side-on lots, and perhaps part of the problem
could be resolved by the erection of walls.
Mr. Page noted that he already had a 6-foot wall on his property which cut
down the noise factor, but there still was a dirt factor to consider, and he
realized the property under consideration had the zc~ning, but increasing the
commerciaL uses was creating quite a problem for the owners of the five single-
family homes on the north side of Katella Avenue, particularly since one build-
ing was being erected only 50 feet from the right-of-way line of Katella Avenue.
The Commission noted that there appeared to be very little encouragement for
the single-family homeowners for conversion purposes; that the commercial uses
established on the south side of Katella Avenue, particularly Payless Drug
Store and The Handyman, were set back a considerable distance from the street,
and even the 50-foot setback from Katella Av2nue was considerable for commer-
cial establishments; and then inquired how the oppasition felt there was a
land use change being proposed by moving the indoor use to the outdoors, which
would still be located within the canopy area.
Mr. Page replied that the City was granting extended uses to go on this
property which was gradually encroaching ~o the front part of the street, and
if this further encroachment to Kate.lla Avenue was encouraged, the City should
consider c~mmercial zoning for those five homes on the north side o£ Katella
Avenue - either rezone those properties or stop the increase of commercial uses
in this area, and if the ~ommission approved an increase in commercial uses,
all propertie~ would have to baild higher walls.
Commissioner Seymour noted that he found it diff.icult to believe that the clank
of even a garbage can in the commercial area on the south side of Katella Avenue
could be heard over the noise of the traffic on Katella Avenue.
Mr. Page noted that when he purchased his single-family home there was only an
orange qrove on subject property, and the street has reached the point that
if these homes were to be retained for residential uses, ii~~r+ there would have
to be a limitation in the amount o£ cammercial uses for subject property.
Mr. Hermison, in rebuttal, stated that the opposition had mentioned a structure
beinq built within 50 feet of the strect, however, this was not under the juris-
diction of The Handyman, but the lessor of the property, who was responsible;
that the variance request was within the confines of the roofline of their
building so that they would not be moving closer to the street, and their build-
ing was presently set back 350 feet from Katella Avenue.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
The Commission noted that as long as Payless Drug Store had outside exposure,
which was enclosed within a 2-foot wall, then the petitioner should be permitted
the same use of his property.
Commissioner Geuer offered Resolution No. PC72-99 and moved for its passage
and adoption to grant Petition for Variance No. 2360 on the basis that adjoin-
ir~g commercial uses had been granted a similar privilege, and subject to
conditions, with the added condition that the existing 2-foot slumpstone wall
be extended across the display area proposed, and that all shrubbery would be
displayed behind said slumpstone and no stacking of the outdoor display wonld
be done, as stipulated to by the petitioner. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: CQMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Rowland,
Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
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VARIANCE N0. 2361 - PUBLIC HEARING. PRIMUS HOLDING COMPANY, 9889 Santa Monica
Boulevard, Beverly Hills, California 90210, Owner; JOSEPH
J. KUNT2, 5521 Burlingame Rvenue, Huena Park, California
90621, Agent; requesting WAIVER OF (1) PERMITTED USES, (2) MASONRY WALL ABUTTING
A RESIDEIITIAL ZONE, AND (3) MINIMUM HEIGHT OF MASONI2Y WALL SURROUNDING AN OUT-
DOOR USE TO PERMIT RETAIL SALES AND SERVICING ACTIVITIES RELATING TO RECREATION-
AL VEHICLES on property ciescribed as: An irregularly-shaped parcel of land
consisting of approximately 6 acres, having frontages of approximately 179 feet
on the southwesterly corner of Shepard Street and Carpenter Avenue and 566 feet
on the north side of the Riverside Freeway, havinq a maximum depth of approxi-
mately 400 feet and being located at the southwest corner of Shepard Street and
Carpenter Avenue. Property presently classified R-A, AGRICULTURAL, ZONE.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone present in opposition and
received no response.
Although the Report to the Commission was not read at the public hearing, it is
referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Mr. Joseph Kuntz, agent for the petitioner, appeared before the Commission and
noted that the recreational vehicle service center they were proposing would
provide a service for those vehicles as they entered the Southland, providing
a service for both visitors and residents in the area; that thi~ was located
on a majcr arterial and not in a congested area, and this was one of the reasons
for selecting this location since it would help prevent congestion and ecologi-
cal disturbances; that there were four million vehicles on wheels, and it was
expected there would be £our million more of these in the very near future,
that the Southland was receiving many of these people visiting the area; that
although the Report to the Commission indicated t;~is was commercial in nature,
this was so to a degree, but there were commercial uses in many operations
permitted in the M-1 2one, even a car and truck center would be permitted; that
this was a very complex use; and that because these were homes on wheels, it
was necessary to equip them whenever problems arose; th~*_ rhey would be adver-
tising in the proper publications to direct people to this service being
offered so that the recreation vehicles would not have to go into the city in
order to look £or repairs or servicing of their vehicles.
,~T e~ Commission noted that there were recreational facilities for these types of
~ v'"-eIiTcles which provided a~~.r,e~ e io rea for the children and inquired why
there wasn't one propose er up n Mr. Ku tz t d t t t~wh~~iy~ .pl nnedw""~-t+"Qc ~~ e
a small area set aside foar a~ay~~ T le~~Y •'°" ~~'Y ~'arki'ng
stalls was because this was something new and they were trying to provide park-
`~i~g~and that they were trying to make it easily accessible, not like the way
thp Rose Bowl looked after a game.
The Commission further inquired whether there were any plans for the sale of
equipment, accessories, etc., on the premises; whereupon Mr. Kuntz replied
negatively.
Chairman Farano inquired whether people in their motor homes would be staying
overnight on the premises; whereupon Mr. Kuntz replied that they would dis-
courage people from staying there overnight and would tell them of the facili-
ties available in the area; that they would have a rental car operation so that
people could leave their vehicles for repair and refurbishing purposes and go
elsewhere.
Chairman Farano noted that the proposed plan of service was a desirable use for
Anaheim, but he questioned the fact that a playground was going to be proposed
since people would stay overnight with their campers and there were no facili-
ties proposed, according to the plans, that would provide for the necessities
for overnight paxking; whereupon Mr. Kuntz stipulated there would be no over-
night accommodations permitted; that people who would have a time delay in
servicing their vehicles might stay there for a while, and this was the reason
for proposing the playground area, primarily for a place for children to play
while the vehicle was being repaired.
The Commission advised the petitioner that the proposal was good, but they
would not permit overnight parking of these vehicles with people residing in
them, and then inquired what type of refurbishing and replenishing the petitioner
was proposing; whereupon Mr. Kuntz stated carpeting and upholstering damage,
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VARIANCE NO. 2361 (Continued)
and maybe these people coming in to the city from out-of-town would not know
who would take ca.re of these repairs.
Chairman Farano then observed that the petitioner had indicated the upholster-
ing or carpeting would be removed fzom the vehicle and repa~red indoors, from
his understanding, however, he wanted to know what was planned for the area
and then indicated it on the map; whereupon Mr. Kuntz replied that they were
installing display racks that would show what they would be installing at this
facility, and this would be a display area rather than a refurbishinq and
installation area.
Chairman Farano then inquired whether it was intended to remove the skin portion
of the outside of a camper; whereupon Mr. Kuntz state3 that tY.,e service would
not go beyond the livinq unit, and they would not become iravolved with any
chassis repair, however, they would repair the skin and frame if it were
damaged, and in some instances they would have to sublet to take care of these
repairs.
Chairman Farano summarized a letter from Autonetics, whict~ indicated the pro-
posed use fell within the uses permitted by the Zoning Ordi~ance which would
be another ameliorating addition to the area.
The Commission Secretary noted that another letter from the adjoining miniature
golf course operator was submitted, indicating approval of subject petition.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
The Commission inquired why a varianc~ was beEore the Commission rather than a
conditional use permit; whereupon 2oning Supervisor Charles Roberts noted that
the City Attorney had ruled that unless a use was listed for which a conditional
use permit might be approved, it could not be handled under the conditional use
permit section, and since this use was not permitted by right in a conditional
use permit, the ozly way it could be considered would be by variance.
The Commission inquired of the petitioner why he was proposing a 4-foot wall
instead of the required 6-foot wall; whereupon Mr. Kuntz stated that their
reason for asking for waiver of the 6-foot wall was because they were proposing
landscaping and shrubbery.
The Commission further inquired as to the type of ].andscapinq proposed along
the freeway; whereupon Mr. Kuntz replied that the improvements of the land were
considerable, but the landscaping would be approached in the same manner that
they had approached thie project, puttinq in nothing but the best in order to
make this a good project, and the landscaping would be attractive.
Commissioner Kaywood stated that there should be both attractive and dense
landscaping.
The staff, in response to questioning by the Commission regarding the proposal,
reviewed the plans as staff had originally analyzed them.
Chairman :'arano inquired where the dump was proposed, and was the maintenance
area in the marked section colored in orange; whereupon Mr. Kuntz stated that
the general cantractor was available to answer questions regarding the develop-
ment if the Commission wished questions answesed.
The Commission inquired what type o£ landscaping was proposed adjacent to the
R-A in lieu of the wall; whereupon Mr. Kuntz noted that they should have had
the landscape architect present, howeves. he would assure the Commission that
adequate landscaping would be provided.
Commissioner Herbst requested that these landscaping plans be spelled out since
the petitioner was asking for waiver of the wall.
Mr. Jerry Lefevre, 18636 Thompson Street, Reseda, General Contractor of the
proposed development, appeared before the Commission and stated that the wall
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VARIANCE NO. 2361 (Continued)
referred to was to enclose the service area, and the current boundary between
the golf course an3 this property had a chainlink fence and along the River-
side Freeway there was also a chainlink fence, however, they were planning a
6-foot high chainlink fence at the property line so that the entire property
would be enclosed with said chainlink fence, and the interior 4-foot high
wall would be enclosing the service area.
Commissioner Herbst noted that the petitioner was requesting waiver of thp
6-foot wa]1 requirement in the M-1 Zone where service uses were placed, and
the Commission, in the past, had proposed alternatives to the 6-foot masonry
wall - when a chainlink fence was proposed, ther~ would be dense landscaping or
slats in the chainlink fence with medium-type landscaping, therefore, he did
not want the petitioner to feel that the chainlink fence was in liee of the
masonry wall requirement; and that the Commission, in the past, had other plans
of landscaping end up with only the chainlink fence constructed.
Commissioner Kaywood noted that the petitioner was proposing to have gasoline
pumps and inquired whether the petitioner was planning to have any signing,
and also what other type of signing was proposed.
Mr. Kunt~ replied that their sign would not have any advertising as to the
gasoline since they would have an unnamed brand and woeld be an accommodation,
and ~hey were negotiating with the petroleum compar_ies because many people
needed 80 to 90 gallons of gasoline and required a different type of nozzle
than reguiation service stations; that because of the height factor and width
of these vehicles, they could provide a service that was not available other-
wise, and he did not feel they would be taking business from the local area
since they would be taking care of something which the l:.cal service stations
could not provide.
Mr. Kuntz, in response to a question by Commissioner Kaywood, stated that he
would stipulate there would be no advertising of the qasoline visible from
the freeway.
Mr. Kuntz then noted that he had been a resident in this area for a long time,
and it was a comfor4: to him to realize the staff gave such able assistance in
their proposal.
Commissioner Seymour offered Resolution No. PC72-100 and moved for its passage
and adoption to grant Petition for Variance No. 2361 on the basis that the use
was not a use generally permitted in the M-1 Zone but provided a service similar
to uses nortaally permitted in the M-1 2one; that the petitioner had stipulated
these would be no sign advertising gasoline sales visible to the freeway; that
there would be no overnight living quarters permitted on the premises; that
there w•~uld be no retail sales of vehicles, trailers, campers, trucks, etc.;
that the chainlink fence would be landscaped; and subject to conditions. (See
Resolution Book)
Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts stated that a clarification was needed regard-
ing waiver "b" since this might be technical because the property to the north
anfl west had a resolution of intent to M-1, and if the owner had an .1-1 ordinance
read, this property owner would not be required to provide the wall.
Chairman Farano noted that a chainlink fence would be needed by the petitioner.
Commissioner Herbst noted that the petitioner had been offered the option to
provide slats in a chainlink fence and landscaping, however, Mr. Kuntz had stipu-
lated to providing the unslatted fence and dense landscaping, as well as the
4-foot wall and landscaping around the service area.
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano. Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Rowland,
Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
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VARIANCE NO. 2362 - PUBLIC HEARING. ANDRO PETERSEN AND SAM ZONA, 415 West
Katella Avenue, Anaheim, California 92802, Owners; ADVANCE
ELECTRIC SIGN CO., c/o Robert Van Gerpen, 1120 Towne Avenue,
Los Angeles, California 90021, Agent; requesting WAIVER OF MAXIMUM AREA OF A
FREE-STANDING SZGN TO PERMIT ADDITION OF CHANGEABLE COPY PANEL TO AN EXISTII3G
SIGN on property described as: A panhandle-shaped parcel of land having a
frontage of approximately 110 feet on the north side of Katella Avenue, having
a maximum depth of approximately 615 feet and being located approximately 725
feet east of the centerline of Harbor Boulevard and further described as 415
West Katella Avenue. Property presently classified C-R, COMMERCZAL-RECREATION,
20NE.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone present in opposition and
received no response.
Although the Report to the Commission was not read at the public hearing, it is
referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Mr. Robert Van Gerpen, representing the agent for the petitioner, appeared
before the Commission and stated that the proposal was to add a 40-square foot
reader panel to the existing si.gn; that subject property was a panhandle-shaped
parcel having a very small frnntage of 110 feet, while the rear portion had a
615-Eoot width, and af±er a:he property extended 615 feec to the south, the
property width increased to 315 feet, and the sign area was calculated for only
the 110-foot frontage; that they thought their existing sign would be satis-
factory, however, after viewing other signs in the area, it was found necessary
to have an attractive, chanqeable panel; that there were ZS motels along Katella
Avenue, and 5 of these had no changeable copyt and then reviewed the different
types of signs these other motels had, noting they proposed a 40-square foot
addition to their existing pole, and based on the actual parcel size rather
than the 110-foot frontage, they felt this was a hardship imposed on them
because of the size and shape of the parcel.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
The Commission inquired as to the type of reader copy proposed for thi~• addition;
wher~upon Mr. Van Gerpen stated that he would assume it would be similar to that
being displayed on the other readerboard signs in the area.
The Commission then inquired whether the ~~~itioner felt this was a necessity to
have readerboard co~.y where 99$ of the motels had color TV, queen size beds, and
rates; whereupon Mr. Van Gerpen stated that he could not spell out what the
traveling public should be informed of, but when looking at the other motels, it
would appear that the petitioner was at a disadvantage.
Commissioner Seymour noted that perhaps the petitioner had a disadvantage, but
they developed the motel in this location knowing full well the disadvantage
they would have, an3 from drawings presented in the variance petition submitted
in 1971, when the sign was approved by the City Council, the disadvantage was
there, and the sign people should have taken this into consideration when t'aat
sign was considered and designed; whereupon Mr. Van Gerpen stated that they were
not the desigr.ers of the existing sign.
Commissioner Seymour noted that this happened each time a new sign waiver was
being requested ir. the Commercial-Recreation Area - there was always the alibi
that they were not the designers of the original sign, and it was somewhat dis-
turbing that the petitioner and the agent did not feel the Commission was fully
aware of the problems in this area; that this was all taken into consideration,
both the nature of the parcel and other parcels in the area when considering
the previous sign.
Mr. Van Gerpen stated that there were many garish signs along Katella Avenue,
and the signs they proposed were Plexiglass, modern-type signs, and no additional
signs would be over them.
Chairman Farano noted that the owner of this motel selected the size of the sign
he presently had, and the City may have granted this partition of the property,
however, the applicant had created his own hardship by selling off a portion
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VARIANCE NO. 2362 (Continued) '
of the frontage, which also meant he sold off a portion of his signing.
Comr~issioner Kaywood noted that this had been pointed out to the petitioner at
the time he requested the high sign.
Mr. Van Gerpen stated that since the City did not have written in their Sign
Or3inance an abatement period for signs that did not meet Code, he was propos-
ing this type sign, although the planning staff had informed him that they were
drafting changes iz the Sign Ordinance that would take care of the amortization
period. However, he would have to build under the present Code requirements.
Chairman Farano then stated that it would be nice to see someone build under
the present Code rather than asking for all of the waivers; that the Commission
was fully aware of the problems that existed in the Commercial-Recreation Area,
and this was the reason for the Commission's attitude toward signs - they were
trying to promote having people comply with the Sign Ordinance.
Commissioner Seymour observed that just because he did not have a fir.e hose to
put out a fire did not mean he would be stopped from putting out the fire with
his own garden hose, and the same would apply to the proposed signing amendments
being drafted by staff.
Mr. Van Gerpen stated that the parcel was very peculiar in size, and this was
one of the reasons for asking for relief, which was a requirement of the variance.
Commissioner Kaywood observed that the petitioner had created his own hardship
by erecting the size sign he did last year.
Commissioner Seymour off•ered Resolution No. PC72-101 and moved for its passage
and adoption to deny petition for Variance No. 2362 on the basis that although
the Planning Commission had previously denied the request o` the existing sign,
the Council felt the peculiar shape of the property warranted granting the sign
height, and now the petitioner was requesting further Fraivers from the Sign
Ordinance; that there had been no changes in the use o£ the property to warrant
c~?nsideration of the wai-er requested; that the petitioner had not demonstrated
a hardship existed; that the proposed signing would add to the unsightliness
already existing in the area, and to grant this signing would t• contrary to the
sign amortization period being proposed and could create a variant situation
since the petitioner would be spending considerable money for this additional
sign and would claim this as a hardship. (See Resolution Book)
Prior to roll call on the motion, Commissioner Herbst was of the opinion that
this was a hardship parcel because of insufficient frontage, and other motels
which had fewer units than the existing facility were permitted readerboards.
Chairman Farano was of the opinion that the petitioner had made his choice by
the size sign he had requested just a year ago, and just because the petitioner
had a narrower frontage than the rear portion of his property, it would still
violate the requirements of the Sign Ordinance, which were based on the frontage
of any parcel.
Commissioner Kaywood noted that on another request where the Commission had
denied a rather undesirable sign and the City Council had granted said sign,
this business was in operation for only three weeks and there was now an ugly
sign with a ~acant building, and that there was such a clutter of signs in the
Commercial-Recreation Area that no one could read anything on the signs anyway.
On roll call the £oregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Kaywood, Rowland, Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Herbst.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
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VARIANCE N0. 2363 - PUBLIC HEARING. JERRY F. FARROW, ET AL, P. O• Box 247,
Garden Grove, California 92642, Owners; SIMON J. SHEEHAM,
403 South Magnolia Avenue, Anaheim, Calif.ornia 92804, Agent;
requesting WAIVER OF PERMITTED OUTDOOR USES TO PERMZT ~UTDOOR DISPLAY OF WOMEN'S
CLOTHING on property described as: A rectangularly-shaped parcel of land having
a frontage of approximately 100 feet on the west side of Magnolia Avenue, having
a maximum depth of approximately 104 feet and being located at the southwest
corner of Magnolia Avenue and Rowland Avenue, and further described as 403 South
Magnolia Avenue. Property presently classified C-1, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, ZONE.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone present in opp~sition and
received no response.
Although the Report to the Commission was not read at the public hearing, it is
referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Mr. Simon Sheeham, the petitioner, appeared before the Commission and noted that
he and his wife had opened up this boutique, although they knew the location was
somewhat hidden away, however, because they had a small capital they took the
place; that they had people come in who had suggested that tney place racks out-
side so that someone could see this was a dress shop, and thus they had done
this almost a year ago, however, the Zoning Enforcement Officer had advised him
they were in violation of the Code, and he was before the Commission requesting
that he be permitted to contin~ae this outdoor display of clothing; that because
he had the business in the City of Anaheim. he had moved to Anaheim; that khey
have had many customers say thpy could hardly see their place, even with the
racks on the outside, and if one drove down the street, one could not see the
sY.ore; that there was signing on top of the building, and he would like to have
a neon sign, but he d'd not have the money, and, furthermore, his sign would not
be seen because of the other signs; that he wanted to enjoy the use of his
property as others in the city; that they had improved the property after this
store had been empty for almost a year; that tenants of the other buildings did
not object to their outdoor display; and that he could take the Commission around
the city and show them many undesirable appearances of cars and other outdoor
storage which was much more objectionable than what they had.
Commissioner Kaywood noted that she had driven by this facility, and, quite
frankly, she felt these racks made the area look quite depressed, and she would
never patronize it; and that she could not see how the Commission or the City
could deprive others from having outdoor display while allowing the petitioner
a use not enjoyed by other people.
Commissioner Herbst noted that the store was off the beaten path, and when the
City allowed this parcel to go commercial, they were in error, and if this meant
the petitioner was on the borderline of losing his business, perhaps if the
Commission gave him a year's time to build up his business, he would not need
'~~ have outdoor display of clothing, however, he did not want to grant the
variance without this limitation since the variance ran with the land, and a
more undesirable use could be established in this building.
Commissioner Kaywood noted that there were some very attractive custom ho~nes
eracted in this general area, and the display of clothing gave the appearance
,of a fire sale.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Herbst offered a motion to approve Petition for Variance No. 2363
£or a period of one year with option to review this to determine how the use
was affecting the area.
A lengthy discussion was held by the Commission regarding the motion, with the
Commission expressing various opinions regarding the use, and upon its conclu-
sion, a vote was taken with the motion losing by a vote of 4 to 3, Commissioners
Allred, Herbst, and Seymour voting for the motion; Commissioners Farano, Gauei,
Kaywood, and Rowland voting against it.
Commissioner Kaywood offered Resolution No. PC72-102 and moved for its passage
and adoption to deny Petition for Variance No. 2363 on the basis that it would
be against the City Code i£ permitted; that this would be establishing an un-
desirable precedent, and it would be 3ifficult to stop similar requests through-
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MINUTES, CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, May 15, 1972 ~Z'Z88
VARIANCE NO. 2363 (Continued)
out the city; and ~:~ould be granting the petitioner a privilege not enjoyed by
other commercial uses. (5ee Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Farano, Gauer, Kaywood, Rowland.
NOES: COMt4ISSIONERS: Allred, Herbst, Seymour.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
VARIANCE NO. 2365 - PUBLIC HEARING. WILLIAM AND SHIRLEY ALMAND, 3335 West
Lincoln Avenue, Anaheim, California 92801, Owners; request-
ing WAIVER OF PERMITTED USES TO PERMIT A MOSILEHOME IN
CONJUNCTION WITH AN EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE on property described as:
A rectangularly-shaped parcel of land having a frontage of approximately 100
feet on the north side of Lir.coln Avenue, having a maximum depth of approximately
310 feet, and being located approximately 1,240 feet east of the centerline of
Knott Avenue and further described as 3335 West Lincoln Avenue. Property
presently classified R-A, AGRICULTURAL, ZONE.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone present in opposition and
received no response.
Although the Report to the Commission was not read at the public hearing, it is
referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Mrs. Shirley Almand, one of the petitioners, appeared before the Commission and
stated they had a vezy unusual situation, and since they did not know what to
do, they had asked the staff for advice and were told to file a variance; that
when they built their home, their parents had given them a 100-foot frontage by
500-foot depth; that in 1963 when che parents wanted to develop a travel trailer
park to the south they did not have sufficient land, thus they gave a portion of
their land back to their parents in order to obtain adequate financing; that the
mobilehome was parked to the rear of their lot and was being occupied by their
daughter, her husband, and children; that altk:cugh the mobilehome could be in-
cluded in the mobilehome park to t;,-~ south, it was an all-adult park and children
would not be allowed; and that they would request permission to have this mobile-
home on their property until the parents' finances werE cleared up and the prop-
erty they owned to the south was given back to them, and then in response to
questioning by the Commission, stated that the loan would be paid off in 1984,
however, if the loan was reduced sufficiently so that the loan was sufficiently
covered by the existing mobilehome park, then they would have their property
returned to them. However, the loan was not low enough to bring the property
baa:_ into their own name.
A leng~ny discussion was held by the Commission relative to resolving relocation
of the mobilehome into the mobilehome park to the south, the length of time the
petitioner was requesting permission for this use, and then inquired of Office
Engineer Jay Titus what would be required if the property were made a part of
the present mobilehome home to the south.
Mr. Titus replied that a parceZ map would be necessary.
Deputy City Attorney Frank Lowry stated that the property could be divided, thus
placing it under separate ownership, and this property could be tied up for some
time.
Mrs. Almand stated that they had a deed from their parents that stated their
property would return to them upon their parents' death if it occurred prior to
the expiration of their loan commitment.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Seymour offered a motion to grant Petition for Variance No. 2365
for a period of 12 years to permit the mobilehome to be located on subject
property, subject to conditions.
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VARIANCE NO. 2365 (Continued)
Prior to roll call, further discussion was held, the Commission requesting that
the requirement of improvements be waived until such time as the adjoining
properties were developed also.
Mr. Titus noted that the curb and gutter and improvements on the property to
the west were already in; that the property immediately to the east did not
have sidewalks or trees, and the second property to the east had sidewalks and
trees, therefore, there was only subject property and the property to the east
that were not improved.
The Commission inquired as to the amount of money necessary fcr bonding for
the improvements; whereupon Mr. Titus stated that approximately 1~8 of the
amount of the cost for the improvement would be the cost of the bond.
Commissioner Herbst requested that in addition to the granting of the use for
twelve years, he would suggest that if the property were sold, the variance
would become null and void in order that it did not carry with the use of the
land in perpetuity; whereupon Commissioner Seymour accepted said amendment and
reiterated his motion by stating that he offered Resolution No. PC72-103 and
moved for its passage and adoption to grant Petition for Variance No. 2365 for
a period o£ twelve years or in the event the property was sold, said variance
shall become null and void. (See Resolution Book)
On roll cali the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, ~p, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Rowland,
Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: ~LGaP-~F~y
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
VARIANCE NO. 2367 - PUBLIC HEARING. SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA GAS COMPANY, Box 3249,
Terminal Annex, Los Angeles, California 90051, Owner;
DONALD J. FEARS, A.I.A.~ 1477 South Manchester Avenue,
Suite 360, Anaheim, California 92802, Agent; requesting WAIVER OF SOLID MASONRY
WALL AROUND OUTDOOR STORAGE AREA on property described as: A rectangularly-
shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 3.4 acres, having a frontage
o£ approximately 230 feet on the south side of La Jolla Street, having a maxi-
mum depth of ayproximately 640 feet and being located approximately 430 feet
west of the centerline of Kraemer Boulevard, and further described as 3050 East
La Jolla Street. Property presently classified M-l, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, ZONE.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone present in opposition and
received no response.
Although the Report to the Commission was not read at the public hearing, it is
referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Mr. Don Fears, architect and agent for the petitioner, appeared before the
Commission and noted that the gas company's primary concern was with security,
and like most large corporations, they were having problems with vandalism and
thieves; that this property had an unusual shape which made it more conducive
to thievery ~_s}~ ; was, 40 ~t to the rear property line, it was very
difficult to~ t at t e type of equipment stored here varied in the
vicinity of $400,000 - pickup trucks, vans, pipe fittinqs, etc., as well as
being employee parking, and with this type of investment in equipment, the
risk became noticeably higher; that they had made a survey of public facilities
of the petitioner, there being 42 of them, and said survey indicated that the
highest theft and vandalism occurred where a solid masonry wall was required
around the storage area, and this was the reason for requesting the hgher
chainlink fence with barbed wire on the top; that this facility had $9,000 in
lighting fixtures to suf£iciently light the area for security purposes; that
the property to the east toward Kraemer Boulevard was owned by the gas company,
and it was proposed to plant these two parcels and also chainlink the area
since it was easier to live with than with a masonry wall; that the Report to
the Commission indicated a chainlink fence with trees might be considered,
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VARIANCE NO. 2367 (Continued)
however, they nad discussed this and as an alternative theg would suggest that
instead of trees they be permitted to provide low shrubbery with scattered,
light-type higher shrubbery that would not be strong enough to use for climbing
and which would also be seen through for the security P°rob~emabecausehofctheir
link fence were approved, thi~ would help the security p
very expensive type of equipment that could be stolen; that they had considered
the possibility ~f placing these items in a secure yard if a solid wall were
required, however, this would be a handicap; and that representatives of the
gas company were present to answer questions.
Mr. Fears noL•ed that they had a setback of 25 feet from the property line to
the building; that the sidewalk had been waived by the City Council, and they
had solid landscaping from the building to the curb. °rthatftheretwas alwayslso
had strips of landscaping approximately 116 feet deep;
persannel on the iroperty 24 hours a day, but no watchman as such; that people
working on the premises late at night were responsible but not as security men;
and that the blacktop fot this area was approximately 425 feet deep; and then
in response to a question by Commissioner Herbst, stated that they could have
landsraping along the east property line, and they could also have dwarf-type
trees; and that they had discussed with the client the passibility of landscaping
the interior, but they would prefer this be left without landsoapina.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Chairman Farano noted that the petitioner was asking the Commis:;ion to make a
determination based on security, and !?hen this had been presented to the
Commission before, the Commission had given the applicant the alternative of
a masonry wall or a chainlink fence with landscaping, or a chainlink fence
with slats and additional landscaping, but all three of these alternatives
seemed to defeat the purpose of the petitioner, and since this was not a
security commission, the Commission would have to waive the request in terms
of appearance, and the Commission was attempting to screen from view large,
heavy equipment.
Mr. Fears noted that the extreme degree in security was their reason for being
before the Commission, and that if *_hey did not have a large amount of va2uable
equipment, compliance would be a possibility, therefore, they would request
consideration of semi-dense landscaping so that it would not present a complete
blockage.
Commissioner Rowland noted that this site was devoted to parking, and outdoor
storage was limited to pipe storage, meter items, etc., therefore, he could not
see why the petitioner could not relocate these in a more secure spot, and then
this could be treated the same as a sand and gravel operation was enclosed;
that he could not understand why this was not considered as a parking lot
except for the equipment storage as such.
Mr. Fears noted that they did not have security police, and they depended
primarily upon the City police patrol.
Chairman Farano noted that unless there was someone patrolling the perimeter
of the property, it would seem to him that with or without the wall or fence,
there would be no way of seeing any intruders because it was very dark.
Mr. Feax-, responded by stating that the area was very well lighted since they
had eight poles witti mercury lights. having spent $9,000 fcr this lighting equip-
ment. and the advantage of a see-through fence was because it would be difficult
£or people to hide there atid get out with the equipment.
Discussion was held by staff and Commissioner Rowland regarding how the staff
deter~rined what was storage and non-storage area.
Commissioner Herbst noted that there was a need for greenexy because of the
ecology everyone was talking about, and since this was a 3~-acre area having
all blacktop, it was important to have some Eorm nf landscaping; that other
companies in the area were able totherstarkealaearancen~flthe blacktop~7there-
in such a manner that it broke up PP
fore, the petitioner could pr.ovide some landscaping.
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Mr. Fears stated that they had 4.7~ landscaping, however, this was all in the
front setback area.
Commissioner Herbst then inquired whether there were any plans for development
of the property to Kraemer Boulevard.
Commissioner Seymour observed that the property to the east would be developed,
and whatever was developed, there would be a blockage of v?ew into subject
property from Kraemer Boulevard, therefore, at some time in the future the
petitioner would be faced with the problem of no police patrol on Kraemer
Boulevard, whether fenced or not.
Mr. Fears noted that he was not concerned with the property line to the south
since there already was a 6-foo` masonry wall constructed on the property line;
that the gas company was hop~ng to be able to develop this property in a similar
manner as that on Katella A~venuer but his previous statements still applied to
the west side of the property which they did not own.
Commissioner Seymour observed that although he understood both sides of the
problem, if the Commission allowed this waiver to be granted, how could they
deny the next request asking for an 8-foot fence and barbed wire on top - it
appeared the only way they were resolving the crime problem was going back to
the 1890 fences.
Mr. Fears stated that his security statement was based on the fact that they
had extremely expensive equipment.
Chairman Farano noted that from a security standpoint, with all of this open
area, it was his opinion that the petitioner was inviting thieverp, and he
would assume that a 6-foot masonry wall might discourage a tnief, ever. though it
might hide him from the patrol view, therefore, he could not see any way
thievery would be discouraged.
Mr. Fears stated they had originally planned for more landscaping throughout
the plant, although they already met the landscaping requirements of the M-1
Zone.
Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts stated he wanted to respond to a comment made
as to utilization of the parking area - that if the major portion of the area
were employee parking, there would be no requirement for the 6-foot masonry
wall - it was only when large equipment and vehicles were stored that the wall
would be required; that he did not know where these vehicles would be stored
or where the equipment wou.ld be stored, therefore, he would suggest that both
the large eq~iipment vehicles and special equipment be located in one area for
screening purposes with the masonry wall.
Commissioner Rowland observed that after looking °it the plan and the turning
radii, these size vehicles would be the pickup tcucks and vans, and on the
perimeter would be the employee parking, and it would appear that it could be
done that way, localizing the s~~rage and leaving the balance yo, although he
understood the security problem.
Commissioner Allred observed that the gas company's problem was no more unique
than any other industrial development in this area.
Commissioner Rowlan3 observed that he was not concerneft whether they erected
the fence or not, but from looking at the land plan and understanding qenerally
what went in, it was not a screening problem with the masonry wall since the
masonry wall should be required for only the pipe stora•~e area, meter equipment,
and regulators.
Commissioner Rowland offered a motion to approve Variance No. 2367 with a
condition that the pipe storage, meter equipment and regulators be located
behind the masonry wall, as required by ordinance, and that landscaping be
in accordance with the M-1 standards for regulation parking areas.
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VARIANCE NO. 2367 (Continued)
After further discussion by the Commission, Commissioner Rowland withdrew his
motion, the petitioner then having stipulated to providir,g an additional 100
feet of landscaping, provided, however, that said additional landscaping would
shield from view from the street the special equipment, such as pipe storage,
rEgulators and meters.
Commissior,er Gauer offered Resolution No. PC72-104 and moved for its passage
and adoption to grant Petition for Variance No. 2367 on the basis that the
trucks and cars parked on the premises were not considered outdoor storaget
that the use of the rear portion af the property ~vas somewhat different from
the adjoining property; that the petitioner had stipulated to providing an
aflditional 100 feet of landscaping, which should be made a condition of approval,
saici landscaping to hide from view from the street the equipment storage; and
subject to conditions. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was pas~ed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: A~1red, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Rowland,
Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ASSENT: COMMZSSIONERS: None.
VARIANCE NO. 2368 - PUBLIC HEARING. MAGIC LANTERN. INC., 1030 West Katella
Avenue, Anaheim, California 92802, Owner; MC LEAN & SCHULTZ,
ENGINEERS, Attention: Howard Yarsell, 2000 East Chapman
Avenue, Fullerton, California 92631, Agent; requesting WAIVER OF MZNIMUM NUMBER
OF PARKING SPACES TO EXPAND AN EXISTING 39-UNIT MOTEL TO 74 UNITS on property
described as: A rectangularly-shaped parcel of land having a frontage of
approximately 150 feet on the south side of ICatella Avenue, having a maximum
depth of approximately 270 feet and being located approximately 390 feet west
of the centerline of West Street, and further described as 1030 West Katella
Avenue. Property presently classified C-R, COMMERCIAL-RECREATION, ZONE.
Chairman Farano inquired whetner there was anyone present in oppositi.on and
received no response.
Although the Report to the Commis~ion was not read at the public hear3ng, it is
referred to and made a part of t}ie minutes.
Mr. Howard Parsell, representing the agent for the patitioner, appeared before
the Commission and stated the petitioner planned an expansion program from the
existing 39 units to 74 units, aslcing waiver of the parking of one space per
unit because t.here would not be any additional room, therefore they were provid-
ing 58 parking spaces for these 74 units.
Chairman Farano interrupted Mr. Pa.rsell by stating that the Commission was
interested in discussing with the agent the basis upon which the petitioner had
deci3ed he would~ot need the required number of parking spaces; that the
Commission had considered similar requests previously and had only approved
waiver of the required parking upon the applicant presenting certification of
the analysis made on the use of units versus the number of parking spaces
available.
Mr. Parsell noted that the owner, during the past two to three years, came up
with figures that ?.2$ of the guests had no vehicles. and these were averages
for both summer and winter use of the motel.
Chairman Farano inquired whether the petitioner had these figures availablet
whereupon Mr. Parsell stated that they could be obtained.
The Commission further noted that the petitioner was proposing 47+t of the new
units as efficiency units, and it wou].d appear that these were more like apart-
ments; whereupon Mr. Parsell stated that they did not plan to have kitchen units
in all of the additional units - this was an error on his part since they had
only four at the present time. which was approximately 10+t of the number of units.
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VARIANCE NO. 2368 (Continued)
Chairman Farano noted that the Report to the Commission indicated that plans
showed 35 of the units would contain efficiency kitchen units; whereupon
Mr. Parsell stated that he had drawn a typical unit and had failed to note
that the typical unit was the efficiency type unit, however, he would stipulate
to meeting the past Commission and Council policy permitting up to 10+k of the
units with efficiency kitchen units, or an additional three or four anits having
kitchen facilities.
~;r. Parsell aoted that the owner had maintained records, and his reason for
requesting this waiver was because of the number cf parking spaces that appeared
to be available; that the petitioner maintained a shuttle service from the
airport bus terminal bringing guests to the motel; that the facility was across
the street from Disneyland, and they also bussed their guests; that this was in
close proximity to the Convention Center, and many businessmen stayed with them
because they were within walking distance between t1.e motel and the Convention
Center,- and then in response to a question by the Commission, noted that they
provided shuttle service from the Grand Hotel, not from the airport; that they
gave £amily rates for large groups; and that they never had all the stalls
Pilled. Furthermore, if this waiver were granted, they planned to have major
remodeling of the entry and would make it more attractive from Katella Avenue.
In addition, they were 22+k deficient, or 16 stalls, from the Code parking
requirement, and it was his understanding that previous variances were granted
allowing up to 33$ deficiency.
Chairman Farano noted he would prefer having the documented data regarding the
percentage of parking spaces available versus the number of units rented, said
documentation to be certified by a certified public accountant prior to the
Commission making any decision on waiver of the parking r.equirement. Further-
more, he wished the Commission would permit only l0a of the units to have
kitchen facilities.
Commissioner Rowland offered a motion to continue consideration of Petition
for Variance No. 2368 to the meeting of May 31, 1972, in order to allow the
peti~.io~ier time to submit certified documentation of the ratio of available
parki:;:~ to the number of units rented, as had been required of other mote~s in
the Comme::c:ial-Recreation Area. Commissioner Allred seconded the motion.
MOTION CARi.IED.
Chairman Farano noted that the Commission should establish a policy requiring
that where similar requests for waiver of the parking in motels was being
requested, that the petitioners be informed that prior to acceptance or con-
sideration of the petition, the Commission would require that parking stud9.es
be made, documentation be certified by a certified public accountant so that a
continuance would not be necessary, and chis wculd be in fairness to all other
motel owtiers in the future.
Mr. Roberts noted that it would not be staff's responsibility to go through the
figures submitted by a petitioner, but that it would be a certified record by a
certified public accountant.
GENERAL PLAN - READVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING. INITIATED BY THE ANAHEIM
AMENDMENT CITY PLANNING COMMISSZON, 204 East Lincoln Avenue, Anaheim,
NO. 123-A California; to consider a proposal to amend that portion of
the Anaheim General Plan consisting of an area approximately
4,200 acres located generally south of Santa Ana ranyon Road,
east of the Newport Freeway, and extending easterly beyond Mohler Drive to Weir
Canyon and having a southerly boundary approximately along the Sant~ Ana Mountain
ridge line, amending the densities proposed for that area.
Assistant Development Services Director Ronald Thompson noted for the Commission
that General Plan Amendment No. 123-A had been approved by the Planning Commis-
sion together wich the reclassification to the Planned Community Zone for a
652-acre parcel surrounding the golf course and reservoir in the Anaheim Hills
area, at which time the Commission determined that in order to maintain the
balanc~ of the puhlic facilities, the entire area should be readvertised; that
the 1969 Genpral Plan provided for 11,500 units on 4,200 acres. and the first
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GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 123-A iContinued)
General Pla.n amendment approved by the City Council hac 15,000 units on 4,200
acres, therefore, this new amendment would be a decrease and would also be a
redistribution implementing the Commission's suggestion that they build more
intensely where they could and with less density wheze there were severe slopes.
Commissioner Farano wanted to understand that this readvertisement would in-
corporate the entire 4,200 acres with the density approved at the last public
hearing; whereupon Mr. Tl:ompson stated that this we:s correct; and that the plan
submitted by the representatives of Anaheim Hills also included traffic studies,
density studies, and layouts for public facilities for the entire 4,200 acres.
Commissioner Kaywood stated that she would like to have a seismic element
included into the General Plan, making it a findi:.g that ~rior to approval of
a specific plan, that the seismic report be investigated and reported on and
approved by the Planning Ccmmission.
Mr. Darrell Daugherty, City Planner rapresenting the City of Orange, appeared
before the Commission stating his purpose being before the Commission was to
protest the increased density of the General Plan area of Anaheim Hills and
the basio concept of redistribution, taking the area lying south of the ridge
line and projecting it for lowest density and increasing the density of those
portions northerly of the ridge line; that on May 9, 1972, the Orange City
Council stated it was their intent to annex land to che ridge line - this would
be the City's policy to this point, and a portion of the 4,200 acres would be
southerly and easterly of the ridge line; that what was proposed was increasing
the densities in the portion of Anaheim's sphere of influence and those southerly
of the ridge line would be under a planned community of the purveyor; that no
comment was made about Weir Canyon Road, although it was proposed to go westerly
of the boundaries indicated, and he was opposed to the fact that they had not
had an opportunity to make any comment regarding the location of Weir Canyon
Road within this 4,200-acre ranch.
Chairman Farano then wanted to know whether Mr. Daugherty was stating that the
reduction in density for certain garts of the ranch from 3.57 to 3.03 would be
those portions that fell within the City o£ Orange's influence and would be in-
creased within the City of Anaheim, and that the City of Anaheim would end up
with a density much greater than previously considered.
Mr. Daugherty stated that a number of things were indicated in General Plan
Amendment No. 123-A; that he could not state that the density figure of 3.03
was accurate for both that with?n the sphere of influence of Anaheim and the
sphere of influence of the City of Orange, might be reduced still more, and
since they had not had enough time to thoroughly analyze this proposal, it would
appear based on the legal notice of the public hearing that the density incr~ase
would be considerably more in Anaheim's sphere of influence.
Chairman Farano noted that the Planning Commission was not in favor of an increase
in density, but they were led to believe that the density under Anaheim's sphere
of influence would be less, but it wo~zld appear from Mr. Daugherty's letter to
the Planning Commission that their analysis would indicate the population re-
distribution would only reflect the lower density in areas that ultimately would
be within the City of Anaheim, while increasing the Anaheim densities.
Commissioner Rowland inquired whether Mr. Daugherty was opposed to the density
decrease in Orange or the density increase in the City of Anaheim.
Mr. Daugherty stated that he was opposed first to the density decrease in the
City of Orange, while increasing it in the City of Anaheim, and still using the
4,200 acres - the situation would really increase the density in Anaheim over
that originally approved in General Plan Amendment No. 123, however, it was very
difficult to arrive at a total acreage and dwelling unit - perhaps many of the
figures occurred near the ridge line, and it was difficult to identify certain
areas increased in density anywhere, however, he was present to present opposition
to any overall increase in density.
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GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 123-A (Continued)
Commissioner Seymour noted that he understood what had been presented by Mr.
Daugherty - he was objecting that if the Grant Corporation had less density
on the ranch in the City of Orange, he would be opposed to that; whereupon
Mr. Daugherty said "no". they were just indicating to the Commission by the
reduction of densitx on an oversll basis of the 4,200 acres, which would
drastically reduce many of the acres in Orange but would greatly increase
the density of acreage in Anaheim, and the result might not be in the units
as indicated, and since they did not have any figures accurately settinc~ forth
the densities for those areas under the City of Anaheim's influence and those
under the City of Orange's influence compared to those previously approved,
they were opposed to any increase in density in Anaheim's sphere of influence;
and that it was their intent to annex to the ridge line.
Commissioner Rowland noted that the equestrian estates were originally planned
for 1,400 units, however, this had now been reduced to 240 units.
Chairman Farano then read the letter of opposition from the City of Orange.
Mr. Daugherty, in response to a question by Commissioner Seymour, stated that
the redistribution of density was fine, but they objected to the increase in
density on the 4,200 acres; that the acreage under the sphere of influence of
the City of Orange should not be used for calculating the densities in the City
of Anaheim; and that they were opposed also to any increase in density in the
City of Anaheim.
Chairman Farano then asked staff what the density for the Anaheim sphere of
influence was indicated for.
Mr. Thompson stated that the ridge line was still difficult to define, but it
went back to the density approved under General Plan Amendment No. 123, which
permitted 3.57 units per acre on the 4,200 acres, still taking into account
the ridge line as a boundrry, and what had happened was that Grant Corporation
stated they could not develop the tops of the hills with as much density as
they thought on the last GPneral Plan amendment, but it was difficult to deter-
mine how much in Anaheim and how much in Oranqe, but the entire 4,200 acres
redistributed the density to 3.03, and it could be assumed that this was a
significant reduction both in the City of Anaheim and the City of Orange.
Chairman Farano noted that the Commission had discussed many times the areas
for heavy development, others £or light development, and still others where no
development could occur, but at all times he had been talking about the area
within the City of Anaheim's influence. and there should be no more density
considered or allowed than what was permitted in low-density development, and
if the proposed amendment was less than the 3.57 approved under General Plan
Amendment No. 123, that was fine, but if it was higher than that, then someone
had better advise the Commission.
Mr. Thompson noted that he did not feel it would be higher, but i.f the Commis-
sion would like to continue this General Plan Amendment No. 123-A reaflvertised
to the evening session, they could run some figures to determine those areas
along the ridge line, but it would appear it would be closer to the 3.5 figure.
Commissioner Herbst was of the opinion that the City o£ Anaheim should only
consid<.r in their General Plan amendments of the Anaheim Hills those areas
within the City of Analieim or its sphere of influence since if the portion
within the sphere of influence o£ the City of Orange was also taken in, this
would lead everyone to have the wrong impression of actual densities.
Commissioner Kaywood stated that in the calculations by staff she would suggest
that the City reservoir and golf r.ourse not be made a part of the acreage
computation since it could not be considered the residential portion.
Commissioner Allred noted that that portion within the City of Orange's sphere
of inEluence should also be excluded from consideration in this new data of
density.
Commissioner Rowland of£ered a motion to continue consideration of General Plan
Amendment No. 123-A readvertised to the meeting of June 12, 1972, in order to
allow sufficient time for staf£ to re-calculate the densities incorporating only
those areas under the City of Anaheim's sphere of influence, deleting in the
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GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 123-A (Continued)
total acreage those portions developed with the City golf course and the City
reservoir and for a special finding to be made a part of the General Plan
amendment consideration of a special seismic study report to be submitted to
the Commission for approval pricr to any approval of development in the canyon.
Commissioner Kaywood seconr~ed the motioa. MOTION CARRIED.
RECESS - Chairman Farano recessed the meeting for dinner at
6:35 p.m.
RECONVENE - Chairman Fara.no reconvened the meeting at 5:10 p.m.,
all Commissioners being rresent.
CONDITIONAL USE - PUBLIC HEARING. ROY W. MABEE, 841 South Western Avenue,
PERMIT NO. 1309 Anaheim, California 92804, Owner; JOSEPH E. BONADIMAN &
ASSOCIATES, 1265 Kendall Drive, San Bernardino, California
92407, Agent; requesting permission to ESTABLISH A TRAVEL
TRAILER PARK on property described as: An irregularly-shaped parcel of land
consisting of approximately 2.3 acres having a frontage of approximately 144
feet on the north side of Lincoln Avenue, having a maximum depth of approxi-
mately 547 feet, and being located approximately 700 feet west of the center-
line of Magnolia Avenue, and further described as 2645 West Lincoln Avenue.
Property presently classified C-1, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, ZONE.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone present in opposition, and
one person indicated his presence.
Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel reviewed the location of subject
property, uses established in close proximity, previous zoning action on the
property, and the proposal to establish a 70-unit travel trailer park for
recreational vehicles in addition to a two-story, 1680-square foot recreation
building, having the main entrance in the center of the frontage along Lincoln
Avenue; that the applicant was conforming to the ~5-foot setback along Lincoln
Avenue and had provided a minimum of 17 feet of landscaping in the setback area;
that an additional 5 feet of landscaping was also provided along the periphery
of all property lines; that all of the spaces would be 20 feet wide. and 38 of
these spaces would be 30 feet deep while 32 of the spaces would be 35 feet deep;
that the plans also show that 20 of the spaces would contain ap~.roximately 600
square feet and 50 spaces would contain approximately 1080 square feet; that
the Commission in the past had approved 600 to 620-square foot spaces for
campers for a portion of proposed spaces in a trailer park; and that the Com-
mission would have to determine whather or not this was the proper location
for a travel trailer park.
Mr. Joseph Bonadiman, agent for the petitioner, appeared before the Commission
and stated that he had read the conditions and had discussed them with staff
and concurred with all of the recommendations, thereforer he was available to
answer any questions the Commission might have.
Mr. C. Van Dusen. 2652 Yale Avenue, appeared before the Commission in opposition
and stated that the width of his property abutted subject property to the north
where single-family dwellings in the price range o£ $25,000 =o $33,000 were
located; that subject property was also bounded by apartment structures, and
the camper-trailer park would be for people spending one or two nights in an
area; that it was a well kept, quiet, reserved com:aunity; that recreational
vehicles were made for outdoors, mountains, and deserts where outdoor sports
were prevalent, and the area proposed was not an outdoor area but a quiet
community needed to rear childzen, not for overnight visitors; that the resi-
den~s of this area had invested their money and paid their taxes and were a
stable element of tne community; that he would not reside in this area if the
camper-trailer park were approved since there would be considerable noises
from the trailers being hitched and unhitched; that the sanitary facilities
were rather limited, and those available appeared to be somewhat primitive;
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 1309 (Continued)
that the trailer park did not belong in a single-family neighborhood; and that
he wanted to urge the Commission to weigh the social implications and consider
the residents who had moved into the single-family homes as well as the apart-
ments because of the quiet, conservative neighborhood where no delinquency
problems were apparent. Furthermore, itinerant people were not needed in this
area since they did not vote nor did they pay taxes; that the proposed devel-
opment was by people who did not reside in this area but lived out of town,
therefore, he would request that the Comnission deny subject petition.
Mr. Sonadiman, in rebuttal, stated he could appreciate the opposition's concern,
but they had faced the same concern in other areas with mobilehome parks,
apartment projects, etc., and he would like to state for the opposition, to
vnderstand what they ~aere proposing, there would be no owners of these types
of vehicles who woulii be gynsies - these would not be itinerants or migrant
workers at the gark; that his concern regarding the sanitary facilities could
be allayed since they were providing full water, ~ewer, and electrical facili-
ties, as w~ll as a restroom over and above State requirements; that the park
would be landscaped, paving on the lots and concrete rolled gutters; that they
were the engineers on this project, and the owner still resided in Anaheim and
has owned this property for a number of years, also paying considerable taxes
on the property but was interested in the growth of the area, therefore, if
the Commission had questions to askr this would conclude his statement.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Allred noted that the petitioner had proposed travel trailer lots
of less than 800 square feet and asked whether the pai~k could be redesigned to
provide a minimum of 800 square feet per lot.
Mr. Bonadiman stated that there was in excess of 50 lots that were over the
800-square foot minimum, and those lots that were less than 800 square feet
were motor home and camper lots, and that they had some lots that would take
the largest trailer that could be pulled.
Commissioner Seymour noted that in reviewing the plans, it appeared the peti-
tioner was providing 5£eet of landscaped buffer along the north adjacent to
the single-family homes and 5 feet of landscaped buffer on the west side
adjacent to the apartments; and did Mr. Bonediman, being an experienced mobile-
home and travel trailer park designer and who was present when the Commission
was creating the Travel Trailer Ordinance, feel the 5 feet of landscaping
proposed a sufficient buffer?
Mr. Bonadiman stated that they felt the north end would be the most critical,
and they had provided parking spaces and had more than 5 feet of landscaping
in addition to the driveway.
Commissioner Seymour then noted that the agent should be advised of the prece-
dent in the past wherein the Commission had approved R-3 adjacent to R-1 and
had required them to provide a 20-~oot buffer zone between the two residential
zones; whereupon Mr. Bonadiman stated that they had attempted to adhere to the
Travel Trailer Ordinance.
Com~:issioner Seymour then observed that perhaps he had adhered to the ordinance,
but this might be the wrong location for a travel trailer park.
Commissioner Gauer observed that if subject property were developed under the
C-1 Zone existing on the property, they would have to provide a minimum of 20
feet of landscaping between subject property and the single-family property to
the north.
Chairman Farano noted that under C-1 zoning the type of parking would be in the
nature of automobile parking rather than camper parking overnight; that space
15 on the plans was within 5£eet; that a 9~ix8-foot trash receptacle was
located immediately adjacent to the wall o£ the R-1; that he had pulled many
a trailer into a trailer p~rk at 2:00 a.m., and he could think of nothing more
noisy at night than to hook up and drain the trailer and put jacks undernesth
it, affecting the residential living environment of those properties located
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 1309 (Continued)
to the north or anywhere near an R-1 property, particularly campers within 5
feet of the property line - this was an observation of fact since he had done
this type of camping too many times - even as another camper he had been awakened
at 3:00 a.m, with headlights, noise, and clatter normal for setting up a camping
area, and being one of them, he could feel for the people living adjacent to
th~s property who were not overnight guests of a trailer park.
Mr. Bonadiman stated that they could increase the tree planting in the bufEer
area.
Chairman Farano noted that, in his opinion, in this location there was considQr-
able that had to be done to improve the situation; that it had a number of
natural problems at its best use, and a even a 20-foot buffer would not sati~fy
him.
Mr. Bonadiman noted that this was similar to one he had designed on the west
side of aeach Boulevar~i where they had single-family homes on one side to the
north; that the use was always a factor to consider in all of their parks by
the honest concern for the people - they could argue whether this use would be
more of a problem than might arise if the property were developed under its
preaent zoning since it could be opened up to more intense uses; and that he
could disagree on whether this was a proper location for this type of facility.
Commissioner Seymour noted that this particular development, in his opinion,
was in the wrong area; that it was not compatible with the existing uses and
would be detrimental to the values of the properties to the north as well as
to the west; that the area did not lend itself for a travel trailer park; that
there were other places in the city that were more practical for this type of
use; that he could see no way the Commission could approve something that
provided less of a buffer than other uses.
Commissioner Seymour offered Resolution No. PC72-105 and moved for its passage
and adoption to deny Petition for Conditional Use Permit No. 1309 on the basis
that the noises from the trailers being hitched and unhitched durinq the hours
of arrival late at night would be detrimental to the general health, welfare
and safety of the adjoining single-family homes, as well as the apartments;
that the proposed use was incompatible with the existing land uses in the area
due to the noise of vehicles being started and the hours of arrival and
departure; that the proposed use would create a severe loss in property value
of the adjoining residential uses; that the petitioner was providing less
buffezing between the proposed use and the residential use than the Commission
required where multiple-family and single-family uses abutted each other; and
that the proposed use was a much more intense use than residential uses exist-
ing in the area. (See Resolution Book)
Prior to roll call, the Commissioner,sfurther discussed comparison of the uses
within the existing C-1 Zone compared to a travel trailer oark development,
Commissioner Seymour being of the opiaion that he could not imagine any C-1
use abutting the R-1 that would be as offensive as a travel trailer park; that
just because the parcel had a particular zone did not mean the Commission should
consider alternate uses since that was the wrong way to approach development of
the parcel; and that the Commission should not be negative because of the zoning
on the property.
Commissioner Allred noted that there was little R-1 immediately adjacent; that
there was R-3 and C-1 to the west and the flood control channel and Lincoln
Avenue and a church to thb, south and east; whereupon Commissioner Seymour said
that although there were 36 apartments to the west, if anyone would live around
the travel tsailer park with people leaving at odd hours, he would not be able
to have liis proper rest, and even Mr. Eonadiman agreed that guests at a travel
trailer park left at all hours, and he would hate to live on Yale Avenue when
people came in with their trailers if a bedroom was located immediately adjacent
to the gark, having to listen to the motors being revved +ip, backing up, and
even people talking would be disruptive to the general health. peace, and
welfare of the residents o£ this area.
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 1309 (Continued)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the follow^.ng vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Farano, He~'~st. Kaywood, Rowland, Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Gauer,
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
CONDITIONAL USE - PUBLIC HEARING. CALIFORNIA LUTHERAN BIBLE SCHOOL~ 1345
PERMIT N0. 1312 South Hurlington Avenue, Los An,eles, California 90006,
Owner; HOWARD M. ULBERG, 1934 Queen Anne's Walk, Pomona,
California 91767, Agent; requesting permi~~io~i to ESTAE:.I~„
A PRIVATE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION WITH WAIVER OF (1) MAXI~IUM BUILPING HEIGHT
ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL ZONE AND (2) MINIMUM SETBACK Fi20M RESIDENTIAL ZONE TO
THE PARKING AREA on property described as: A rectangularly-shaped parcel of
land consisting of approximately 4.8 acres, having a frontage of approximately
337 feet on the west side o£ Western Avenue, having a maximum depth of approxi-
mately 618 feet, and being located ayproximately 345 feet south of the center-
line of Orange Avenue and further described as 63Y South Western Avenue.
Property presently classified R-A, AGRICULTURAL, ZONE.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone present in opposition and
received no response.
Although the Report to the Commission was not read at the public hearing, it is
referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Mr. Maynard Force, President of California Lutheran Bible School, appeared
before the Commission and noted that their present location was in Los Angeles
and their enrollment was 150 students; that their school was 21 years old, and
they thought of moving into this area having approximately 5 acres; that this
would be similar to a junior college, being a two-year school; that the boys'
dormitory would be in nearest corner and the girls' dormitory at the opposite
end, and at the very top would be the gymnasium, library, and administration
building.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Herbst noted that it appeased there was a lack of consideration
of the single-family homes around this proposed school in the design since
nathing was provided; whereupon Mr. Force stated that they planned to have only
one-story buildings adjacent to the R-1; that the architect had designed in
accordance with the rules; and that two-story buildings would be located toward
the center. '
Chairman Farano i.nquired where the one and two stories were proposed and how
high were those buildings; whereupon Mr. Force indicated where these buildings
were, and Chairman Farano then stated that the residents to the west would have
a 10-foot building facing them - would these buildings have any windows there?
Mr. Force replied that they had not gone into the details, but he was sure there
would be buildings with windows.
Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel noted that the reason for the height
waiver was not because of the dormitories bet because the gymnasium was located
at the property line and would be approximately 20 feet high, while Code re-
quired that any building 20 feet high would be required to set back 40 feet.
Commissioner Herbst observed that a gymnasium would create a considerable
amount o£ noise because of ~he screaming during participation of any sports,
and he would not like to livt next door since no buffering was provided.
Mr. Force then stated that he saw no reason why the building could not be moved
farther to the center, with additional open space being provided between the
building and the fence.
Commissioner Gauer observed that with Western Avenue on the east and the Oran3e
County Flood Control District on the north, it would appear that the buildings
could be relocated and an attempt made to preserve the residential integrity of
the area.
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 1312 (Continued)
Commissioner Rllred stated that he would presume that in the future there would
be an increase in enrollment, and this facility might be inadequate.
Mr. Force replied that they were a bible school with college subjects, each
student given specialized training, therefore, they did not want this school
to become too large; that they taught on the college level, a regular curricu-
l+im, study of the bible, public speaking, etc.
Commissioner Gauer inquired whether the petitioner would be agreeable to a
one-month continuance to work out the problems mentioned by the planning staff.
Mr. Force noted that they had just graduated their most recent class, and they
were through for the summer, therefore, he did not think tney would be able to
have anpone present since he was leaving town for the summer.
The Commission then inquired whether or not Mr. Force could have some responsi-
ble representative be present and have this continued in order to have the plans
redrawn; whereupon Mr. Force agreed to said continuance.
Commissioner Seymour offered a motion to reopen the hearing and continue
c~nsideration of Petition for Conditional Use Permit No. 1312 to the meeting
of June 12, 1972, in order to allow the petitioner time to meet with st~~.ff
and xevise plans so as to relocate the buildings and prevent any undesirable
encroachment on the single-family environment to the west. Commissioner Herbst
seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED.
RECLASSIFICATION - PUBLIC HEARING. ALBERT S. TOUSSAU, P. O. Box K. Piru,
NO. 71-72-45 California 93040, Owneri COVINGTON BROTHERS, P. O. Box
3128, Fullerton, California 92634, Agent; property
VARIANCE NO. 2364 described as: A rectangularly-shaped parcel of land
consisting of approximately 7.5 acres, having a frontage
TENTATIVE MAP OF of approximately 503 feet on the east side of Sunkist
TRACT NO. 6931, Street, having a maximum depth of approximately 633 feet,
REVISION NO. 1 and being located approximately 250 feet north of the
centerlir..e of Ball Road. Property presently classified
R-A~ AGRICULTURAL~ 20NE.
REQUESTED CLASSIr2CATTON: R-3~ MULTIPLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL~ ZONE.
REQUESTED VARIANCE: WAIVER OF (1) MINIMUM LOT WIDTH AND (2) MINIMUM
LOCAL STREET SETBACK TO ESTABLISH A 22-LOT FOURPLEX
SUBDIVZSION.
TENTATIVE TRACT REQUEST: ENGINEER: Lander Engineering, 1782 West Lincoln
Avenue, Suite H, Anaheim, Califo'rnia 92801; proposal
to subdivide subject property into 22 R-3 zoned lots.
Chairman Farano inquired whether anyone was present in opposition, and a show-
ing of hands indicated five persons present.
Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel reviewed the location of subject
property, uses established in close proximitp, previous zoning action on the
property, noting that a reclassification and conditional use permit for a
166-unit planned residential development had been deniei. in 1968, and as a
result o£ that request, General Plan Amendment No. 110 and Area Development
Plan No. 45 were ir.itiated by staff; that the City Council adopted General Plan
Amendment No. 110, Exhibit "C", which reflected the area in question as being
appsopriate for low-medium residential development, and the General Plan
currently reflected that designation; that Area Development Pian No. 45,
Exhibit "A", was adopted by the City Councii reflecting the extension of Hilda
Street from its present terminus to Sunkist Street; that in 1969 a reclassi-
fication and variance were approved establishing a 35-lot, single-family
subdivision on the property, however, an ordinance had never been read; that
further reclassification to R-3 zoning with the construction of a 157-unit
apartment complex had also been denied in 1971; that the applicant was pro-
posing to reclassify this property to the R-3 Zone and develop it with a
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RELCAS~IFICATION N0. 71-72-45, VARIANCE NO. 2364~ AND TENTATIVE MAP OF TRACT
NO. 6931, REVISION NO. 1(Continued)
22-lot, fourplex subdivision, plaas indicatiag that all units within 150 feet
of the single-family residential zone wculd be one-story structsres, and the
remainder would be two-story structures; that the entire project would be
developed at a density of 14.1 dwelling units per net acre or 3097 square feet
of net land area per dweZling unit; that the proposed density was within the
designated low-medium density of the General Plan, however, the zoning requested
would allow densities greater than that proposed; that the plan also reflected
the extension of Hilda Street in canformity with the adopted area development
plan; that waiver of the minimum building site width was requested for one lot
on a straight street and one lot in a knuckle, or two lots in the 22-lot sub-
division, and the reduction in lot width would not appear to be detrimental in
this instance; that the reduction of the side setback was being requested in
three instances where the applicant was proposing open parking stalls adjacent
to the garage in the side setback area; that the applicant was proposing a
7-foot green area between the parking stall and the right-of-way line, and in
one instance the garage was within 10 feet of the right-of-way line, with the
entire 10 feet being landscaped; that the Commission might wish to consider
these two waivers to be appropriate in light of the recent approval of similar
requests on the south side of Ball Road for the same developer; and that the
Commission might wish to consider this proposal to be in conformity with the
projected development for the property.
Mr. Dick Edge, 1782 West Lincoln Avenue, representing the agent for the peti-
tioner, appeared before the Commission and stated that the project before them
was similar to the many requests before the Commission by Covington Brothers
with one exception, those units adjacent to the existing R-1 properties would
be single-story construction, and this represented half of the density of the
remainder of the tract; that each building shown represented four separate
units, one of the units would be single-story and the others would be two-story;
that the entire four units would be sold to one party; that the property would
be maintained by the property owner; that it was not intended to have a home-
owners association for this complex; that Covington Brothers had been develop-
ing similar projects for the past twelve years and had developed more than
2,000 units in Orange County; that they had maintained a vacancy factor of their
fourplexes which indicated a vacancy of approximately 1$, while other apartment
units had a 10+t factor; that he had lived in one of these fourplex apartments
and found it to his taste; that this type of development was far superior to
large apartment complexes; that in the laycut of the tract they had tried to
take into account all of the requirements set forth by the City staff - they
were providing a street through the project leading from the R-1 to Sunkist
Street, however, they would be happy to cul-de-sac this street so that it would
not run into the R-1 area; that buildings adjacent to the R-1 were single-story;
that there would be fewer residents in those units immediately adjacent to the
R-1 than if the property were developed for R-1 purposes; that they were provid-
ing a 20-foot buffer strip between the R-1 and the R-3; and that the remainder
of the development was in accordance with Covi.ngton Brothers standards, and he
was available to answer questions.
Mr. Don McGuire, 1161 South Hilda Street, appeared before the Commission in
opposition and noted that although staff had indicated the R-1 Zone had been
applied £or, this was never acted on or finalized by the petitioner; whe~'eupon
7,oaing Supervisor Charles Roberts noted that in 1969 a reclassification to the
R-1 Zone, subdividing the property into 35 single-family lots, had been approved,
however, the petitioner had never proceeded with development of it.
Mr. McGuire stated that the area in question was primarily single-family homes
except to the west side of Sunkist Street and on the south side of Ball Road,
therefore, he would request that the single-family 2one be continued because
of the existi.ng land uses; that the developer had indicated they would cul-de-
sac Hilda Street where it was projected northeasterly, however, there already
was a semi-cul-de-sac there and was buffe.red with a£ence and inquired that if
the petitioner was prooosing to place a cul-de-sac on his property, would the
existing cul-de-sac remain.
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MINUTES, CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, May 15, 1972
72-302
RECLASSIFICATION I30. 71-72-45, VARIANCE NO. 2364~ AND TENTATIVE MAP OF TRACT
NO. 6931, REVISION N0. 1(Continued)
The Commission advised Mr. McGuire that Hilda Street deadended at subject
property line and did not have a cul-de-sac.
Mr. McGuire then inquired whethex the street wuuld still deadend since they
were single-family kiomeowners anfi were concerned about the traffic that would
be coming from the southwest, and, of course. he would not want to see a trailer
park as was previously proposed to move next door to them in the event the
Commission determined they wanted to continue sub~ect petition for revised
plans.
Mr. Roberts noted that the plans indicated Hilda Street extending through
subject property and connecting with the stub end of the existing Hilda Street.
Mr. McDaniel noted that the developer had stated that if the City were willing
he would cul-de-sac the street only.
Mr. Roberts noted that the City Council took action on the area development
plan in 1971, establishing the fact that this street should be extended from
its present terminus to Sunkist Street. Furthermore, the area development
pian depicted low density, but the General Plan depictel low-medium.
Chairman Farano noted that the Planning Commi.ssion had proposed commercial
along the frontage of Sall Road, then a tier of R-2-5000 between commercial
and the extension of Hilda Street, and R-1 to the north of this extension; and
that the Planning Commission in 1968 had proposed low density north of Hilda
Street.
Mr. Roberts noted that in order tc implement the R-2-5000, subject property
would have to be reclassified to the R-2 Zone.
Chairman Farano further noted that General Plan Amendment No. 110 indicated
what the Commission's intent was and took into consideration the fact that
apartments were developed to the west on Sunkist Street and on the south side
of Ball Road; that the Commission in the past had attempted to protect the
single-family properties, and he hoped the Commi.ssion would continue to limit
multiple-family homes to the south side of Ball Road and the west side of
Sunkist Street.
Mr. Edge, in rebuttal, stated that it would appear to him that the project they
proposed in itself represented a buffer from one density to another; that they
were proposing single-story within 150 feet of the single-family homes, which
represented about S units per acre, while the remaining units would be approxi-
mately 14 units per acre and would be adjacent to the commercial property; that
it would appear undesirable to have single-family homes adjacent to the C-1,
therefore, it would seem that the proposal was more logical from a density
standpoint than one from R-1 to commercial property, and regardless of whether
these were 5000-square foot lots or 7000-square foot lots, the properties would
be purchased, and they were offering an option to the people to move, whereas
if the homes were parchased, this would be more difficult, particularly where
homes woald be adjacent to the C-1 property - furthermore, these homes would be
more dif£icult to sell after the owners of these properties found out they could
not stand the noises frum being adjacent to C-1; that the owner of these units
wou].d usually be in the front apartment facinq the street, and the balance would
be rented.
Commissioner Herbst noted that there would be four families backing up to the
single-family homes; whereupon Mr. Edge stated that there would be two families
adjacent to the R-1 and two units to the rear of these, therefore, there really
would be only two families facing them.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Mr. Thompson noted that the statement made by Chairman Farano that the uses
depicted along Ball Road were C-1. then low-medium density and low density
was correct.
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MINU'CES, CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, May 15, 1972 72-303
RE,.ASSIFICATION NO, 71-72-45, VARIANCE N0. 2364, AND TENTATIV~ MAP OF TRACT
N0. 6931, REVISION NO. 1(Continued)
Chairman Farano then noted a statement was made that the area development plan
did not provide for low density but only as far as the Hilda Street portion
north~ that pr~perties to the north of Hilda Street should be R-1, and if this
were to be changed, then there should be another public hearing on the General
Plan Amendment No. 110.
Mr. Roberts noted that if the Commission so desired, they cou13 approve densi-
ties greater than low density for subject property.
Commissioi~er Rowland noted that it might ba a proper procedure, but from a
standpoin: cf policy, it would be rather unique; that Area Development Plan
No. 45 established circulation from a sing'_e-family through multiple-family,
and, historically, the City had never oonnected sinq~e-family and multiple•-
family circulation elements, and he could e•ren point to a simi.lar situation in
the development proposed at Kellogg Drive and Orangethorpe Avenue wherein C-1
was proposed at the corner and low-medium density with R-2-5000 development
around it, and he felt that was the thinking of the Commiss9.on when this was
considered previously; that he had a well-known aversion to standard R-3
develoFment; that the Commission had a choice since Area Development Plan No.
45 was approved a year ago, and the City Council had confirmed the Commission's
action on General Plan Amendment No. 110, which reflected the Iow-medium density
adjacent to the commercial and low density north nf Hilda Drive extended; that
the Commission had some very specific ideas about circulation and the principle
the Commission had adhered to with reasonable consistency in the past and had
been evidenced in 1971 where R-2-5000 was proposed as a buffer for C-1.
Chairman Farano nated tliat in reviewing the minutes of the action on subject
property which occucred in 1968, these reflected that about 75 persons were
in o~position to heavier ~':.nsity, and the City Council had affirmed the Com-
mission's position of retaining low density on the east side of Sunkist Street,
and ~:h~ only reason a change was considered for the property adjacent to the
commercial use was the fact that a service station had been approved at that
corner with a narrow commercial strip adjacent to the freeway o£f-ramp, there-
~ore, the Commission felt that a low-medium buffer would be acceptr.ble below
Hilda Street. However, everythinq north of Hilda Street would remain low
ciensity.
Com•uissioner Herbst noted that the propo~al was multiple-family residential
us_> adjacent to single-family homes; that trash storage areas were adjacent
to tne :.ingle-fam:ly homes; that there would be four units with their trash
next to the single-family h~mes; and that he could see nothing different in
chis proposal from previous proposals - there were too many people and not
sufficient buffering between the R-1 and the R-3.
Commissioner Giuer inquired whether the petitioner would be willing to consider
R-2-5000 for subject proper*_y; khereupon Commissioner Herbst stated that in his
own mind there was no reasor for continuance of the petition since anything
north of Hilda Street should remain R-1.
Mr. Edge advised the Commission that if the Commi~sion were considering low
density for the property, the ~eople he represented were not interested in
building R-1 since Covington Brothers built only apartments.
Chairman Farano noted that according to all documents connected with this
property, namely the General Plan amenfi.~,ent which depicted land use and the
area development plan which provide3 cir~~^'.~L•,'.^n, botn indicated commercial
uses along Ball Road anci R-2-5000 :z? to Hilda btree~, •aith R-1 to the north
of Hilda Street all the way to abutting the R-1 to tha north uf subject
pro~,erty; and that although medium density, R-3 had been discussed, it was
never seriously considered by the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Herbst offered Reso'lution No. PC72-106 and moved for its passage
and adoption to recommend to the City Council disapproval of Reclassification
No. 71-72-45 on the basis that no land use change had taken place since the
Planning Commissiun and City Council had considered General Plan Amendment
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MINUTES, CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, May 15, 1972 72-304
RECLASSIFICATION NO. 71-72-45~ VARIANCE NO. 2364, AND TENTATIVE MAP OF TRACT
N0. 6931, REVISION N0. 1(Continued)
No. 110, which projected C-1 for the Ball Road frontage, low-medium density or
R-2-5000 abutting the C-1, and single-famiiy, 7200-square foot lots north of
Hilda Street; and that no land use change had taken place to warrant favorable
consideration of a heavier density for subject property. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Rowland,
Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
Commissioner Rowland offered Resolut±.on No. PC72-107 and moved for its passage
and adoption to deny Petition for Variance No. 2364 on the basis that the
existing zoning would aot permit the waivers being requested. (See Resolution
Book)
On roll ca.ll the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONF.RS: Allred, Farano, Ga+ser, Herbst, Kaywood, Rowland,
Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
Commissio~.er Kaywood offered a motion to deny Tentative Map of Tract No. 6931,
Revision No. 1, on the basis that the existing zoning would not permit sub-
divison as proposed. Commissioner Seymour seconded the a~otion. MOTION CARF.IED.
RECLASSIFICnTION - PUBLIC HEARING. MARGA:2ETE L. NIQUETTE, 2224 South Spinnaker
NO. 71-72-4E Street, Anaheim, California 92802, Owner; property described
as: An irregularly-shaped parcel of land having a frontage
VARIANCE NO. 2366 of approximately 105 feet on the north side of Orangewood
Avenue, having a maximum depth of approximately 115 ieet,
being located at the northeast corner of Orangewood Avenue
and Spinnaker Street, and further described as 707 East Orangewood Avenue.
Property presentiy classi.fied R-A, AGRICULTURAL, ZONE.
REQUESTED CLASSIFICATION: R-3~ MULTIPLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL~ ZONE.
REQUESTED VARIANCE: WAIVER OF (1) MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT WITHIN 150 FEET OF
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE AND (2) VEHICULAR ACCESS
FROM AN ALLEY ONLY TO ESTABLISH A 9-UNIT APARTMENT
BUILDING.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone present in opposition, and two
persons indicated their presence.
Assistant 2oning Supervisor pon McDaniel reviewed the location of subject
property, uses established in close proximity, and noted that no previous
zoning actions had been initiated on the property; that the petitioner was
proposing to reclassify the prcperty to R-3 and construct a 9-unit apartment
building; that the three floor plans being provided would contain 700, 840, and
850 square feet of floor area; that four of the proposed units would be above
garages, two of the units would be above an additional two units, and one unit
was proposed as a studio-type apaxtment; that the major parking areas were
provided off Spinnaker Street and the existing alley to the north; and that five
oE the proposed parking stalls would take direct access to Spinnaker Street;
Mr. McDaniel, in evaluating the proposal, noted that the Anahein~, General Plan
designated the area in question as being approp::iate for medium density resi-
dential development; that the R-3 Zone would implemer.t the General Plan desig-
nat~.on; that waiver of the one-story height limitation within 150 feet of the
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RECLASSIFICATION NO. 71-72-46 AND VARIANCE N0. 2366 (Continued)
R-1 was being requested because the applicant was proposing 5 two-story units
within 105 feet of the single-family residential developmeat to the south;
that this development was proposed at a density of 32 units ger net acre and a
coverage of 47+k; that waiver of the location of the vehicular accessway was
being requested because the applicant was providing direct access from Spinnaker
Street to the 5 stalls frontinq Spinnaker Street; that the Code would require
access from the alley in addition to not allowing the setback area along Spin-
naker Street to be paved; that the surrounding development to the west and north
was multiple-family consistina of fourplexes and sixplexes on similar size lots,
and it would appear that this proposal of 9 units would be inappropriate based
upon surrounding land uses, and by reducing the density to more in keeping with
the surrounding densities, the applicant could eliminate the two requested
waivers, therefore, the Commission might wish to consider the appropriateness
of cor.tinuing this request so that the applicant might redesign the plan to
conform with the R-3 standards.
Chairman Farano noted for the representative of the petitioner that he undoub±-
edly heard the comments of the Commission and the views expressed 1+y the
Commission regarding the R-3 standards, therefore, any presentation should be
limited to explaining the proposal as it pertained to the evaluation of the
request.
Mr. Allan Nel, 12791 Newport Avenue, Tustin, appeared before the Commission and
noted that according to the evaluation, paragraph 7, this proposal met the
intent of the Generalp-an, although they were infringing on the single-family
units to the south; that instead of applying for 10 units allowed by the R-3
density, they proposed 9 units in order to present a more aPSthetically pleas-
ing development and better vehicular functioning; that he could not find any
sixplexes on 7000-square foot lots in the area, and if that were so, then since
subject property was 12,000 square feet, it would appear they were only l~s the
size of those lots having sixplexes; that as to redesign, they were proposing
tile roofs and privacy along the main street, and if single-story were required
along the frontage, this would present a rather flat-roof, unattractive appear-
ance to the single-family homes to the south; that if the development were re-
located farther to the north, this would destroy some rather old, existing
trees, and since he was ir.terested in the ecology, he decided to de~ign around
these trees and retain them; that there was a trailer park to the east, there-
fore, the use they proposed would not be objectionable; and that he had slides
that would demonstrate what his plans proposed.
Commissioner Rowland observed that the plans presented demonstrated the con-
clusions and thinking of the developer and inquired whether Y.a had ever devel-
oped in Anaheim before, and received a negative response.
The petitioner further noted that the old house had been condemned •snd should
be torn down, and by permitting the variance, they would be improving the area;
that he did not intend to have any windows facing the trailer park to the east
and toward the R-1 this would be landscaped; and that he felt they had done an
adequate job in providing buffering as it pertained to this odd-shaped parcel.
Mrs. John MacY.in, 2102 South Spinnaker Street, appeared before the Commission
in opposition and noted that their home was located on the southeast corner of
Spinnaker Street and Orangewood Avenue, directly across from subject property;
that she had a petition from the residents on Spinnaker Street with 22 signa-
tures representing 22 homes, however, she co~ild not get all of the people
residing on Spinnaker Street to sign the petition; that she was opposed to the
variance request but not opposed to the R-3; that they felt the property should
be reclassified to R-2; that nine apartments on a parcel of land approximately
105 x 115 feet when compared with other apartments in the area was too great;
and that the R-2 would permit 2400-squaYe foot units xather than the 1200 square
foot pro~: sed; that she was opposed to two-story construction within 150 feet
oE single-family homes; that although the petitioner stated the two-story would
be 130 feet from the R-1, subjer.t property rose approximately 3 feet above tlie
street, leaving a grade differential and making the property higher by looking
dowr. on their property; that when developers built the existing apartments
on Spinnaker Stxeet, they placed a duplex on the northwest corner, at which
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MINUTES, CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, May 15, 19i2 72-306
RECLASSIFICATTON N0. 71-72-46 AND VARIANCE NO. 2366 (Continued)
time they had also offered a reasonable price for the property under considerati
so that the property would be similar and uniform, therefore, she could see
no reason for approving the variance request since all apartments along Orangewo
Avenue snd Haster Street had to meet R-3 standards.
Mr. Nel, in rebuttal, stated that one home in the R-1 had its zear yard approxi-
mately 150 feet from subject :~erty, and the only one that was affected would
be the Mackin property, however, there was going to be landscaping, and the
Mackin property was also densely landscaped; that mention of the apartments on
Haster and Orangewood Avenue was rather far-fetched since these were a censider-
able distance away, and some of those apartments were two and three stories in
height with R-1 across the street, however, this was done while the properties
were still in the County; and that they planned to retain these apartments and
did not plan to sell them.
THE HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Herbst noted that the Commission had not deviated from the 150-foot
setback except for one recently located o1 La Palma Avenue where e corner of the
apartment projected is.:to the setback area.
Chairman Farano noted that the waiver was permitted only where property adjacent
to the residential use, although occupied by single-family residents. w~xs pro-
jected on the General Plan for commercial or medium-density residential use, or
where an R-A parcel had a resolution o£ intent to R-3.
The petitioner noted that there had never been an offar to purchase subject
property, as had been stated by the opposition, but he wanted the Commission
to take into consideration what they were proposing, and if they were immediately
adjacent to the R-1, then he would not consider building two-story structures,
but since they were across the street and the landscaping was so dense one could
not see through it, the need foi the height limitation appeared negligible.
The Commission discussed the proposal, noting that there was no opposition to
the R-3 since that was the proper zoning for the property, however, the peti-
tioner had not demonstrated a har3ship existed as to irregularity of the property
or a deep narrow parcel, just the convenience of the applicant to waive this
setback.
Chairman Farano inquired of the petitioner whether he wanted subject petitions
continued for the submission of revised plans; whereupon Mr. Nel stated that
if the waivers were denied and redesign would be require3, then the trees that
he had spoken of would be destroyed since they couid not plan around the trees,
stating that there were approximately 30 palm trees an~ 2 large berry trees
which made their property very attractive.
Commissioner Gauer inquired how many units would be lost if the petitioner were
required to provide single-story within the 150 feet; whereupon Mr. Nel replied
they would lose three apartments.
Chairman Farano noted that 32 units per acre appeared to be quite dense; where-
upon Mr. NeI stated that there were 6 units on 7000 square feet, and this
property was 12,000 square feet, therefore, he felt the density Has approximately
Che same.
Commissioner Herbst noted that those lots having 6 units on 7U00 square feet
were not within 150 feet of the single-family zone, and the property on the
west side of Spinnaker Street had complied with the requirements of the zone,
building single-story construction within 150 feet; and that the petitioner
was requesting a variance and not meeting the Code as the Commission was
requesting.
Commissioner Seymour noted that the property to the west had only 3 units
compared to the proposed de~elopment of 9 units; whereupon Mr. Nel r^nlied
that the 3 units that would be two-story would provide some sort of '~uffering
from the more intense uses in the R-1; and t:iat the other apartme':tt elopments
had minimal landscaping.
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MINUTES, CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, May 15, 1972 72-307
RECLASSIFICATION NO. 71-72-46 AND VARIANCE N0. 2366 (Continued)
Commissioner Rowland offered a motion to approve Reclassification No. 7Z-72-45.
Discussion was held by the Commission regardinq the motion by Commissioner
Rowland, and several Commissioners noted they preferred to see development
plans rather than granting blanket R-3 zoning for the pxoperty; whereupon
Commissioner Rowland withdrew his motion of approval.
Commissioner Seymour offered Resolution No. PC72-108 and moved Eor its passage
and adoption to recomraend to the City Council disapproval of Petition for
Reclassification No. 71-72-46 on the basis that the density proposed was greater
than projected in the area; that the proposal would be encroaching upon the
residential integrity of the single-family homes to the south; and that the
petitioner was reluctant to meet Code requirements by declining to have a
continuance of the petition in order to resolve the questions brought before
the Commission. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was pzssed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONIiRS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Rowland,
Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
Commissioner Seymour offered Resolution No. PC72-109 and moved for its passage
and adoption to deny Petition for Variance No. 2366 on the basis that the
petitioner declined meeting the one-story height limitation ~vithin 150 feet of
R-l, and that the peti::ioner had not demonstrated a hardship existed to warrant
favorabie consideration of the waiver. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call *he foregoing resolution was passed by the fallowing vote:
AYES: COMMISSIOP:ERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Rowland,
Seymour.
PTOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
RECLASSIFICATION - PUBLIC HEARING. THOMAS SARAC, JR., 849 Roxanne Avenue,
NO. 71-72-47 Long Beach, California 90815, Owner; JAMES L. GLOVER,
9763 Candlewood Avenue, Cucamonga, California 91786, Agent;
VARIANCE N0. 2369 property described as: An irregularly-shaped parcel of land
having a frontage of ap~,roximately 108 feet on the south side
of Orange Avenue, having a maximum depth of approximately
450 feet and being located approximately 1,015 feet east of the centerline of
Knott Avenue and further described as 3340 West Orange Avenue. Property
presently classified R-A, AGRICULTURAL, ZONE.
REQUESTED CLASSZPICATION: R-3~ MULTtPLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, ZONE.
REQUESTED VARIANCE: WAIVER OF (1) MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT WITHIN 150 FEET
OP A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE AND (71 MINIMUM
DISTANCE BETWEEN BUILDINGS TO PERMIT THE CONSTRUC'SION
OF A 32-UNIT APARTMENT COMPI,EX.
Chairman Farano inquired whether there was anyone present in opposition and
received no response.
Although the Report to the Commission was not read at the public hearing, it is
referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Mr. James Glover, agent for the petitioner, appeared before the Commission and
noted he was the proposed builder of the project and was available to answer
questions.
TH~ HEARING WAS CLOSED.
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RECLASSIFICATION NO. 71-72-47 AND VARIANCE NO. 2369 (Continued)
Mr. Glover noted for the Commission the purpose for asking for waiver of the
one-story height limitation was the fact that a similar variance had been qranted
the property to the west a short time ago.
A gentleman in the audience indicated that this had been considered by the
City Council over a year ago because a request for an extension of time had
been requested of the City Council.
The Commission reviewed the previous action in granting waiver of the one-story
height limitation and noted that the findings of the Planning Commission indi-
cated that only one part of a unit on the southerly tip of the proposal which
was adjacent to the flood control channel was waived, but nothing had been
waived from the R-1 property to the nortii, and then inquired whether the peti-
tioner would prefer a continuance in order to revise plans.
Commissioner Rowland noted that the petitioner or his agent was taking a
calculated risk by asking for the variance under consideration, and this was,
in his estimation, a big fishing expedition, and the Commission might be able
to lower the number of fishing expeditions if these waivers were not granted -
perhaps there would be more realistic presentations te the Commission.
The Commission noted that the reclassification of the property to R-3 appeared
to be appropriate, and since the size of the land was sufficiently large to
develop in accordance with Code, perhaps the Commission should grant only the
reclassification, and if the petitioner still wanted the variance, he would
have to ask for these waivers.
Commissioner Seymour offered a motion to continue consideration of Petitions
fer Reclassification No. 71-72-47 and Variance No. 2369 to the meeting of May 31,
to al'.ow the petitioner time to revise plans.
Upon being informed by staff that plans would have to be submitted by Friday o£
this week. Commissioner Seymc>ur withdrew his motion.
Commissioner Seymour then in~xuired whether the petitioner tiould comply with
meeting the one-story height limitation on both the north and south Boundaries;
whereupon Commissioner Allred noted that the petitioner would have to request
a variance in the event one unit infringed within 15 feet of the required one-
story height limitation.
Mr. Glover advised the Commission that the waiver of the minimum distance
between buildings, in his estimation, was not necessary since this would have
a roof extending across the buildings; whereupon Zoning Supervisor Charles
Roberts noted that there would be no roof as this was a hallway.
Commissioner Kaywo~~d inquired whether or not it was intended to r•~tain the
euc~is~~e~es.,',w iereupon Mr. Glover stated they would •
Commissioner Herbst offered Resolution No. PC72-110 and moved for its passage
and adoption to recommend to the City Council that Petit?on for Reclassification
No. 71-72-47 be approved, subject to conditions. (See Ieesolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by t;ia following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Rowland,
Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
Commissioner Herbst offered Resolution No. PC72-111 and moved £or its passage
and adoption to deny Petition for Variance No. 2369 on the basis that the
proposed two-story units at the north and south ends of the property will
disrupt the residential integrity of the adjacent single-family residential
uses; that granting the waivers without sufficient substantiating evidence
would be granting a privilege to the petitioner not enjoyed by othezs;
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RECLASSIFICATION NO. 71-72-47 AND VARIANCE NO. 2369 (Continued)
that there are no exceptional or extraordinary circumstances or condi*.ions
applicable to the property involved or to the intended use of the property
that do not apply generally to the property or class of use in the same
vicinity and zone; that the requested variance is not necessary for the
preservation and enjoyment of a substantial property right possessed by other
property in the same vicinity and zone and denied to the property in question;
and that the requested variance will be materially detrimental to the public
welfare or injurious to the property os improvements in such vicinity and zone
in which the property is located. (See Resolution Book)
On roll call the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Allred, Farano, Gauer, Herbst, Kaywood, Rowland,
Seymour.
NOES: COMMZSSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
REPORTS AND - ITEM NO. 1
RECOMMENDATIONS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT t:0. 1301 (Ledger Smith-
Anaheim Tennis Club) - Property located at the
northwest corner of Katella and Howell Avenues
on the north side of Howell Avenue, approximately
835 feet west of Katella Avenue - Request for
review and approval of proposed uses.
Assistant Zoning Supervisor pon McDaniel noted for the Commission that the use
proposed by the tennis club in accordance with Condition No. 10 of Resolution
No. PC72-71 approving Conditional Use Permit No. 1301 required the submission
of a list of specific uses to be approved by the Planning Commission, and these
uses were as set forth in the Report to the Commission and were the s°.me uses
as had beer submitted with the apglication except that jai alai, roller derbies
and mini-rodeos had been deleted, and that the petitioner had stipulated at
the April 17, 1972 meeting that both jai alai and roller derbies would be
deleted, as well as those games where gambling would be invol.ved. Therefore,
the Planning Commission would have to determine whether or not these uses
should be approved.
Commissioner Seymour offered a motion to approve the submitted list of uses as
required under Condition No. 10 of Resolution No. PC72-71 approving Conditional
Use Permit No. 1361. Commissioner Rowland seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM NO. 2
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 1225 (Brookhurst
Apartment Fand, Ltd.) - Request for an extension
of time - Property located on the south side of
Crescent Avenue approximately 400 feet east of
Brookhurst Street and developed with an apa.:ment
complex.
Assistant 2oning Supervisor pon McDaniel reviewed the request for a five-year
extension of time for the operation of a child care center serving primarily
the tenants of an apartment complex, said use being approved by the City Council
on April 20, 1971; that Condition No. 6 of City Council Resolution No. 71R-150
stated that the conditional use permit was granted for one year subject to a
request for renewal by the petitioner, and this condition further stated that
the use may be reviewed and considered for an additional period if the Planning
Commission determined that the use had had no adverse efEects upon the surround-
ing area; that a field inspection of the site was made, revealing that the
present day care center was utilized by 20 children; that an enclosed area had
been set aside adjacent to the day care center for outdoor recreation; that the
area was well maintained, containing various outdoor play equipment; that the
indoor area was neatly arranged and appeared to afford an adequate area for the
children's activities; and that the day care center was licensed by the State
and was supervi~ed by at least two instructors who wc:re on the premises at the
time of the inspection. Therefore, in the staff's evaluation of this inspection,
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ITEM NO. 2 (Continued)
it would appear that the day care center had no adverse effects upon the sur-
rounding c.rea, rather it provided a needed service to the occupants of the
apartment development. Therefore, the Commission might wish to recommend to
the City Council that a five-year extension of time be granted, to expire on
April 20, 1977.
Commissioner Rowlanft offered a motion to recommend to the City Council that a
five-year extensic•i of time be granted for the use of the prop~rty for a child
day care center approved by the ~i~p Council April 20, 1971, under Conditional
Use Permit No. 1225; that a field inspection had been made in which it was
determined that the day care center had no adverse effects upon the surrounding
area and provided +i needed service to the occupants of the apartments.
Commissioner Seymour seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED. (Chairman Farano
voted no.)
ITEM NO. 3
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 1277 AND RECLASSIFICATION
N0. 71-72-20 (Boisseranc - Westfield Urban Company) -
Request for approval of revised plans - Prop~rty
located at the southeast corner of the Artesia Freeway
and Dale Street - Proposing to establish a planned
residential development.
Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts reviewed ~he ~ocation of subjer.t property,
uses established in close proximity, previous Commission action on the p~operty,
noting that under the reclassification and the conditional use permit the
petitioner had proposed to establish a 179-unit planned residential develop-
ment; that the conditional use permit was granted in part, subject to condi-
tions; that Waiver 1-d, minimum distance of two-story structures from R-1, was
denied, and the City Council, upon its own motion, elected to review the action
of the Plann~.ng Commission at a public hearing held on January 11, 1972, and
granted the conditional use permit with all waivers as submitted; that tkee
property's westerly bo,undary was located adjacent to the City of Buena Park,
and that city would be Lhe jurisdiction that would provide utilities and
services to the project, however, the City of Buena Park had expressed concern
regarding the fiensity and traffic that would be generated by this development;
that the petitioner had submitted revised plans which indicated a reduction in
the number of units from 179 to 160, the density per net acre being reduced
from 12 to 10.75 units, and an increase in the number of guest parking spaces
from 103 to 116. Furthermore, the City of Buena Pa~c, in a phone call to staff,
;~ad indicated that they would supply the necessary utilities for this project
if the plans were reduced to 160 units. Therefore, the Commission might con-
sider trese revised plans to be substantially in accordance with the approved
plans and with the requirements o= the City of Buena Park for serving of
utilities.
Commissioner Kaywood offered a motion to recommend to the City Council that
revised plans under Conditional Use Permit No. 1277 (Reclassification No.
71-72-20) be approved. Commissioner Seymour seconded the motion. MOTION
CARRIED.
ADJOURNMENT - There being no further business to discuss, Commissioner
Herbst offered a motion to adjourn the meeting.
Commissioner Seymour seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED.
The meeting adjourned at 10:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Anaheim Ci.ty Planning Commission
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