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A REGUL~R MEF.TING UF TlIE ANAHETM CYTY PI,ANtfING COM'+ISS70:i
EtI;GqLAR - A r~~qular mdet~nc~ of tlio Anrhaim lity P1 ng Commiaeian ~~ae
MEE".'ING ~el..Hd to orQer Uy Chtsirm~.n Seymaur a`_ 2 p.m., e quorum
;ieing prae~nt.
YR~SEN'f - CHAtf~MANs Seymour.
• CUM~NISSIONERS: ~ xed, ~'a"t111rJ, Gru~r, HArbat, KaYw~o~i, Rowland
;-o ~~n t.er~d L•hc~ Co~nci.l Ch~~mbar at 2 r 10 p.m. ).
ABS~N'.C ~ COMM.L~SIGNEF : tic.nc:.
I~RES~NT ° A:3alHtanC Devc~lo~~mrnt ~r~rv~ans DirecY.~rc RonaJ.d Thom~,~eon
Depuky City Atto~....~~+: Frank Lowry
Or°f:i.ca F.nqineer; Jay Tll-us
San~.Cation 5upor.inten~lent: William Lowia
'~,oning Su~~ar~-inor: Chnrles 'ohcrCs
AeHirctant Plann~~r: Pliillin :~chwnrt~ce
C:~mmi asior: Se~cretary~ Ann KX'AY~R
PLE~GE Uk' - ConuniAe~oner "orbst lyd i~i ~~e Pledy<~ ot AlJ.~giance Y.o tha
AJ.LF.GIAiJCE r~aSl•
AFPR~VAL l)I' - Commi3oioner Kavn~oud off~~re~] d matio~~ tc~ approvc t.h~ mintrtes
'I'HE MTNUT~:S ot he mQeting of April. ', 1973, =econd~c~ by C:ornmissioner Harb~ut
a, MOTl'OU CA~IRIBD, ~~~b=. ~ct l•a thc~ following correctinne:
Py 73-193, ~.ar.a. 13, 1~~i4 12, should be: t'.ike Gnren, Young
Re:t.ii.y. . .
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11. ^.l: 5~.x pe.rson3 (not t:hr.~e)
pg. 73-194, f.sra. 11,
Pq. 73-•195, pc~ra. '~, ].ine ~: ?tolan,; Krueger., F~~ralta :Iills
(not Santa Aria .. . •~ii FI .owners)
1~-~. 7J•-196. para. 10, line 2: M.r. Wesl~~~ M:~~re ai R.3chard A.
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Smith (nuT. Mr. Wlnn)
p~, 7'i-197, par.a. 1, line 2 Commic~sione~ Kaywccd sec~~nded
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Gauer and Rowlsnd)
!not Herbst, t~e vr,ted "n~" wit,~.
rg. 73-20:3~ next ~'.o l~st paragraph, l:i.ne 1: prop~sed tracta
was "not" the
Pg. 73-204, i~isert G~ pata. G: "Commisaioner Kaywooci affezed a
no~-ion, s~conded by Commiasioner Row.land and MOTInN
C~Rx1',n, th~~t Lhe Planriiny Commission, in connectio~:
wi~h ;r Lxemption Aoclaration 8ta.tus request, fir~ds
,-nd d ermines that the prop~sal r+ould :tave no
~ign!._icant environmental iml~act, and, therefore,
recommends to the City Coutic.i.1 t~.ha~ no Environmenta].
xm~+act ' tahemetit is neae~SRLy."
Pg. 73-2Q5, par.~ 2, line 2: Mr. H. G. t~~borne ~I1C~~. !i. S.)
i>g. 73-206, p'.ra. 3, line 5: me~.~ns of a~~onditional use per~nit
(r.or v~riance) ~
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Pg. 73-10 ~, para. KAYWOOD, line 3, dele~e . acco~ .C ~i~ _
that we do
pg. 13-209, ias~ para., adi, tJ.me: a8lourn ~o April 12, /~,
at 7a00~,.r.i.
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Commisaioner Kayw~od off-•red a mr~tion *o ~~.pprc the mirutea of
the meetirt~ of ApriJ. 16, 1973, eeconded by Cominiasioner Allre~~
and TSUTION ~~AR~2I~D, subjact to the f.ol'iowing corrections:
py, 73-23'l, par~. 8, lira i0: R~3 "apartmants" (de'eto "home")
Pg. 73-232, para. 9, li;~e 3, adct: broken "in ths•eo ~.+.+cos°' ~
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Kaywoo,
?g, 73-237, last pmra.: AYES~ S~ymour and
Farano)~ NOES: llezbst, "Farano", GduPr (delete
~Caywood)
Pg, 73-238, para. 3 and 7, lines 1 az:d 1: Switc:h Rowlana and
iCaywocd vct~,s.
pg. '13-241, add to ~ar.a. 5: l~n rol.l call tt,e fcreqoing mat.ion
caxzied ur~animously arter Cammiasioner l,arano changRd
Ytis "no" vote t~ "aye". Co~nmisr'oner AZ?zed waq
sL+ser :. ?
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MINUTES, CITti .~~.ANNZN(; C~MN:TSSIUN, Aprj.J. 3U, J.973 7~-244
I:NVTRONMENTAL IM}'HCT ° CON'1'TNII1
REPOR'I~ NO. ~U An+~haim
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~uwport
Dr1vt~+ tu Wei.r C+.~iiyon, having u
An;. Mounkai.s~s rid~ ~ 11no.
3p pUil];ir HF.ARING, JAt~ ~~IM ifILLS, iNC. ,:.80
k{illr~ Rund, Anahoim, Ce. 92(306, Uwnor~ prap~,rty
r~outh of. SanL•a Anx Cranyon Road er~et. ~~C l•he
F-•uuway :~nr~ extondinn onet.+rly beyot-d Mahler
euutherl.y houndary npi.~roximetely al~ng tho Santn
::u:.~c~ct reporti wa~ co~ tinued f.rom tho ~n,•~~tina u1: Aprl .16, 1973, to allow 4ho
ownor.s af L•h~~ pro~crty t:itr~~ Y.a pr.ep~ro ~~n~i pr.c~s~nt~. <, ,uppl~mc~nt that. w~uld
indicnte mitiyat:lny atc~pa +.~ be tak~n r.~~ ~r~l.ing the :aintag~ F.roblem
Cht~i r.man Sdymour n~t.~~X the Re~ ew Cou~mi tt.ea h~d rar.u,~imondod t:hat ~h« Fnvirou-
roental Tmpecr Ropozt ~o. 80 u~ recominendf~d tc~ !:he City Council f~r Anprr~vfll
9llbjaCt to lndivictunl ~nv~.ron~ ,ntal impact rop:~rts ueJ.nq ~iled a.~ pro,~nct:~ ~Eor
rapocific ereae werp yubmitted .+ince they r.eferr~d tu the mester environu~untal
impact regort.
CommSs~ioner Hc~rbst n~~t•ed Chac: the LIR, togEC~~~r wi.t:h thA ~+uPp7emente pr~~s:4ntad,
now ba~icnJ.ly cover.ed all ar the probleme and mitiguting et.opa tn be tuk~n to
reaelve theae probJ.eme wk-lch hr,d be~n oi grQat concern ku r,li~ Commi~ssion.
C';irthermoro, this reporl• cover9d the 4000 ACZ'@9 ~f the iJ:dlll'. 'JK'j~OX!lt~0I1~ and
~ :l~ t-ime an area of t.h~ 40A0 acrea waa pr~pused for dc~ve~' ~~~;m nt, the Commi.ttee
}iad recommended th~t it be sub~act to r.equiriny an LIR to l,e ~uUmitt~ci :airr~
~ar_h project area, with the CZR's con~aining suEiicient d~tai!~••d infc~rmatioc, to
pe.r.mi.~ an evaluation an3 refur.ence could be made to the ~rojc~ct R regardirio
sub;ect ma~te.r which pextained to the overall. aeca.
A ger,tleman in Lhe audience indicated he was a pr.operty ownet: imme~.iataly adja-
aen~ ~o subj~ct property and expressod grave concern regarr~inc~ the drnin,tge
prablems o` tt~e ranch sincc: development waQ occurri.ng.
Chuirman '~eymour ~~oted th~t th<: Plannir.g Commission at a pr.evioua meating h.9d
recomme~~ct~d tc~ c}iu City Council sp~cifi.c Step~ of resolv~ng this drt~inage
probl~m, and frc:n newspaper account.^, it arpearad that the Plann+_ng Commisaian's
r~:~~~ommandati.on was sliqh~ly amended a.nd was adopted by +:he City Council, there-
foi , iE there ~.~aR a specific piece of praperty with which t.he gentleman in L•he
aud ~~nce was aoncernerl, hP ~hou?.d contact thc~ CiL-y Enq.inec:_-'s c)ffi.ce f'or answ~~s
to ;;ny dr~ina;~e problema or questions.
~ommissiotier Gauer th~_n raa3 excerpts irom the c~ ~pl.em~nt Co LIR No, 30 whiah
dealt w.ith the drai~~~ge report and probl:~~in~, no cig that the d=ainage would h~. 'e
to be t.aken care of both fr~m a legal and engineering standpoint, and this woua.d
oacur prior to a final Uccupancy p~zinit being granted.
Deputy City Attorney Fr.?*-k Lowzy noted t.hat Finding No. 8 of the ~?.LR should be
amenderi to state thuk it must be on fi1c: and of a suffici~nt for:~~ to ra~er to by
referpnce pr~.rr to ths approval of an occupancy perm+t o~; 2ny project• whezein
. 3Qit:ional supplen,.nta.l F:iR's wouZd ~iave to be file in t}ie Anahc~im .- 11a
developcnent .
Commissioner Herbst offered d motien, s~conded by Commissioner Gauer and MOTION
CARktI~'D, that the Plan:z.ing Commis. f.on, iii connection with Fnvixonmental Impact
Report Nc,. 80, finds and determine that s~id EIR was r~viewed by t~e ~TR Revlew
Comml~tee, who recommended that it U~~ adopted as a project E7R aub~ect to th~
requir_ement that an EI:t be r~±tbm.itt~c? L>r e~~rt, development with.t~n the pro ject
araa; ;:hat L•hese EZR's st:«11 con~ain ~u"f.icient deta.lled information `.o permit
dn F.7R impact evaluat.ior. and may refer t~ tkie yzoject EIR regarding subject
mat~er which pertained t~ the overall sr.e , therefore, the Flanning Commissi~n
recomcnends t.o the City Counci?. adcption ~~ ~nvironmental Im~,act Report No. 30
as the City Council's ~;nv~ronment~l In'!'ic~. t:.~,`_atement, eubject L-o the rer.omman3a-
tions ef tt~e Review CommitLee, whicii would r~quire tnat an EYR ne suhmitted for
each de~~~~lopment tait:~in 'tha projECt arPa, ^ j EIR's to c~ntain suf~icier~~ de-
cal~ed inFOrmati~n to p~rmit an environment.aJ impact ~valuation a. reference to
the proiect Elit regz •ding s~~bject matter ~_ha.t ~~ertAlne+d ~o `h~ ovarall area
ceuld be ~nade.
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MTNU'I'1:C, CtTY YI.ANNIN; COMMIS5ION, Apx~.l 3U, 1973 73-245
F:NViFtONME'N'CA1~ ZMPAC'P - 1'Ul3L~I(' ~I:ARTNC~. RAYPIONU Ii. i~~ARSILE~ .TR. r RnNA:~U T'.
l2E1'ORT Nl). y4 r~^RSILG, AND ATL,F:FN MAP,SILL, 2043? Santa Ar~a Canyar~ Ro~d,
~` Anahalm, Ce. 928U6t NARV1i1Y ANU L-~tdEI,L S'EA:;F„ 205~ A~JOCP.
RI:CLASSTFICATION A~~anue~, bnlhoa, Ca. 92Gr,2, Ownorej MARK TxI HOME:S, '~NC.,
NO, ~2_7~_q,g atte~ntlon of StuvN San<;ber.u, lfi5l. F~e-at EclingAr Stroet,
------------..._.-__ Srntu Ana, Cm. 927~5, Aqc~nt~ nY,~•~ r~y 3a~cri.bc+d oAi i~n
VARIANC:h~ N0. 2499 irre~ulc-rl} ::1:!~pc+~ ~,az ~e.l cf 1a~ ::~a3.~tin.ry ot aPpzc~xi..
__~ ~____...... m~toly 19. E~ acr~~ . l~av~ r~q u frontage oF ap}>roxi~n,~t~~ly S66
Vi: MAP Ur
Tf.NTATT feer. on the eouth .;i~1~ oP Santa Ana Cay~yon Raad, hnving a
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TRACT NO. 577E1 maximum 114r t1- ot approxi.naL~ ' y 990 f.oet, and beiny
_~____~.--•--------- 7ocated a~p.•o~• .~*.ely 6~C~ f.~:~_ :. easc oz the ~on'orline ~f
1y~aRaim 11111n nnRd. Cla:~aif.icatlan c.~f proparty: Cou~ky
Ai, AGRICUL'CURnI~, DT.STCICT ~pr.et~ently 1+-A, AC,I2TCULTC:xAL, ZONE by urgenoy
~rdinnnce) .
FZE~UGSTED CLASSTFII:i .~Ns lt-1, ONE-CArlILY RESIUENTIAI,, 7,ONi..
REuUt'STGD VARIF'~CE: WAIVF FT?0'(5' SE'I'BAC1C TO F.S'P:L'LISiI F. 76-•~,OT R-]. SUIIDIVLSION.
2'F:N'rATIvr; TRACT R; QUL5T: DCVELOPER: t4ARK TII HOMG5, IP~C., .16~1 Ga9r Edin~ez
Struot, Santa Ana, Ca. 927Q5• ENGINk~~R: sal.kin
Eng±nearing Corp., 1045 Wer~t Co111ne, Orange, Cn.
92667t psopasing subd:lvi:~ion o1 a 19.8-a ~rA c~lte
;.nto 76 R-1 zo~ied lot~:.
Chairman Soymour noted ~hat theze appoarad ta ba problems i.nvolved in thi9
proposal which staff felt ~hould be resolved priar to Planning Commiasion
consi.l~rati~ri of. the proposal.
Representatives of tlie petit~rr~era i~idicated their pzeoence and stated thPy
wished to l~av~ these ~e*.ition~ co^.sider.ed ~it pnb~ic hearinu thi~ date.
One p~..r..on indica*_ed 1~i~: presencc to u~ake ytat:em~nts a:~ci comments regarding
this nr.oposal.
Chairman Seymour noted that the Pl.anning Cornm~ csion had r.eceiv~~ ~ information
that the.'e was a~~ossi.ble legal ~roblPm which had to be ~ esolved ~Qfore th~
Planning Comm:lsaion c.ould considex t'~e reLOning u£ t~ie i~roperty.
D~rput~ Cily Attor_nay Frank Lowry advised the Commission that 1*~ addj.tion i:o
several planning zpasona as to why subject peti*_iona ~;hould be contir~ued, Y.2~eTe
was a leya.l problem zegazding easements wliich s;~ould ..~~ re~-~lvr~d as suy~;~ested
prior. to Planning Commieaion consideration of thc petit3on~•
Mr. George Kez'ns, z'epresentiiig the ~ngineer and the d~~velope~, a~ wel!. a~ Y1~~
property ownar::, ap~eared before the (:omr~ission and st:ated ht~ .:' ient~ were ~~f
the opinion ti~at sub~ect petx`.:ions ~~hould be hear3 this date an~ cequested somQ
acGion be taken by the Plannit.g Commi~sion.
Commissianer Farar~o noted Luat t)~ere appeare~ ta b~ Uoth e;. ~ement ano in,rese.-
egre:~s pr~blems which must be z•esoJ.ved befor.e t'se Planning Comrni~e~on cou~d
consi:ler ar.y Loning artion on t1~ pro~ertyj tY~ t. many other p~oble ~is had nat
bee~~ resolvc~d by the cievaloperi a~d thaC this >resented a serious ~ roblern from
Uoth a planni.ng ~nd legal sta.ndpoint ~~tlich mu~ t be r, so~ved.
Chairman Sey•nour, in response to q~iestioning b~t une of the petikioners, 3tated
it was a matter oi providirig easementa eince the ~n~helm Munici.~al Code required
that prope~r4- not be I.andlocked, and t'~.ts w~uld have to 5e reso].ve?, therpf< re,
he felt the Planning Commi.dsian, by c nsiderirg this on th~.s aate, wculd be
wHSring their time as well as the petit~onera' and develcper`~ time becauee they
could r.ut be resolved aL tl~ie public hearing bu~ t_t~rough meetings with the
Developwent ~ervic~s Lepartment and the ~ngi.~ee~±.ng Divigion.
Mr. Kerns notad that th.ey werA pr~vidinc~ ~~~•~.~~ and easemente d9 they pxes~ntly
existed al~ng Santa Ar~ Canyon Road.
Commisaioner Gauer obaervc~d that 'che~_ app~~ared to be parceis that would be
landlockad with thia proposalf hareupon M!'. KNi~~s replie3 tha't theRe p~ ~:cals
had ea~omenta to Santa Ans Ca ~r~ Foad, a.~Q one ~ro~er;.y ownor indicatec he
wanted to retain thia a39e~ne? as his own because he clid not ~~ar,t acc.,ae £rom
~he r.ear of the proposal '>ut ~referred a block •~all.
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MTNI'TF.::, C1'1'Y ~LANN7NG COMMTSSIC)N, April 3U, 1973 73-245-a
~NVINONME;NTAL 7.DtPA~:R' REF~qf;T NU. 9A, RECLA5SIpIC]~TTUN N0. 72-73-15, VARIAN~ ~ Nb.
249'~, AND '1'ENTATIV~ MAF_01~ '~'RAC'f NO. 5778 (Conkinue~ _______«__._._.~..__...._
Commir+g~cncr Gautii e1~o nc~tod, ,~ccord.l.ny ta che~ pl~ne, t.hci~• wai r. homes pro{~osod
on oome~ of th~:~ •~asements.
CommisUioners F~r.ano, KAywood, and 4terbFt wero ~f ~ ho opiu i~~n that sub~ect
petitlone end trae:Y gl~ould be~ cont.inuE~d ao L•h~xt n c<,vien~t tx~.~et ~~np co~ Ld re-
tlacl chenr;r•e o' thH conccrnn ~xpreac~ad by L•h~ C~~mm.i.aeir~n rc~gxt~di,~ ~ t.hr~ homes
N:~,~o~o~i on oAaemc~nts, provi•tiny roAt1A intu tlia ar~~a for ci,rculnti.~~i t~~ Ac' join-•
iny properti~s sin~F~ c•lrculaii~n wuulc~ '-._,ve to bA r.oec:,lved eyen though tne~ p~ti-
ti~~nar t~ad i.ndlcatod ttio circulatien aouxd he thA samo es prerontly extatad, il•
was obvioua thi~ circul~tic?r. w~~~~l~l hnve to bu r~ salve.~~ 1~' d~vslopmenC wae pzo-
e~d al.r~n.~ S$ll~d Ana Canyon F:oad.
INr. R~sysnond Marsile, on9 of tho pb~.itio~orc+, appenrod b~foie L•he CommisAian un~1
statad ha ~~wned part of thc land undeY cons~:eration~ thrxt ther~ had b~en
arrangemRnts made f~r the e~asemente~ th~.t the adjoining pxo~erty own~r wae
preaenC r~garding thit~ e+~eemenL•r thmL• they hnd d~.scuaseci a).1 of thesA pz•obl9me
wi.th the City Attorney ~snd had ralao work:~d with other City ~p~.-rtme:ita elnca
SopL•omher of 1972t ~nd that they had boen promised uPon ~~xation t.o the C~ty
of Anal~eim that t.hey would get soma action, but it r~ppAC, d t.he Cit'.y waa alsA
qiviny tt-pm th~ "run-Around", therefore, ho fe2t the C~ +isai.on eho+ald tak~
ec;rnQ type of ar,tion thie datc+.
Ch~irmdn Scymour noted t~at pEr}iaps the Cevelo~ment ervi.ces Ce~par.tment and
ot..er City depaxtments had behn working wlth the ~~ .itioner ~inc~~ Soptember of
1972, howav~sr, the Planning C~~mmisai.on had nat. ae~ the plan untll just i~a~ore
public hearing, and the Commi.s~+~~n had t~ make tl,ir recommPndation to tho
Ci~y Cour.r.il on a zoning basis, which cou3.d not e done unlesc~ comp'ete informa-
tio.~ wr.;, ivailable to make a prorier evaluatiori.
Commiasioner Herbsk noted that the pluns and tract map praeent~d tu the Plann~.ng
Commtasion did not takP into consi.dexation the master plan cf' cizc;tilation For
the Sant~ Ana Canyon Road area except for the immediate proporty under cone~.d-
~ration, and t~o provisions wRre made for a.djoini.ng propertie~ which woul' be
landlockedj that o~ner~ adjacel. ta Santa Ana Cany~~n Road musr provide L•he
acce~~s i~ow wliich would be needed iri the fut:ure when adjoining propertiee d~v~l-
ope3, otherwise, it would be altnost imgos~ible to pzovide it ~t a later date,
there£ore, roads shauld be canaidered to acl~acent propFZtie~ in redesi~ning thd
trsct msp so that the entire area to thp soutn could be served, not just this
7,U-ar.re parc~el.
Mr. Marsile noted that the State owned the e~~aement around the per.imete~ of the
oroperty, and e•veutually the City woul.d cbt~zn the old SAVZ channel ccess.
FurCher:nore, they could only speak for their propezt:y and rick othez prr~porty
owne rs .
Commis~ioner Ruw]an3 entered the Counci.l Chamber at 2:10 p.m.
!'hairman Seymour_ •heii requzst•ed that staf.f state the many probl.em~ Facin9 this
developmen~ whicl ha~l to be rese'ved I~efore the Commiasion could conaider it,
Zonzng Supervi~~ ~° Charles F.~berts :oted Lhat basical ~y the problem o.f r,he tract
map was, as Com nJ ssioner Fterbst i~ad outll.netl, (1) the engineer had not taken
into account tl~e iieed £or ex~endiiig circulaCion irii:o the o~hEr ~ropc~rties tc
~he sout2- a~ '~~~uth~ast of subject nroperryt (2) th.,t ~h~ Planning Commis~eior~
Mazch `~, .1973, hrsd recommended to the City Coun~~.il approval of Ger~ezal F~lttn
Am~~ndmant ~o. 125, which a3de.~ Fair~~ont IIou]evard to t-'.~e C:L: culration F lem~nt o£
t'tin Goneral Plat~, as well a~ acca~ss pairito to tt~e 5-:xnta Aria Canyon Accasa Points
5tu~'y, reiocating Accees Poink N~. 9, whicti would ~~r.ovide xccesa to aubiect
pr.opertiy, however, the s~reet proposed would onty s~,:ve the prope~ty in question~
( 3) tY.at it wes important to pro~~ide dCC~BA ta the ~ 37~ini.r.g properties 1S0 fee~
deep b~:t front~.ng on Sr~nta Ana ~.anyon Road, which, if developed, would hav~ only
access tl2rough Acces~ Point 9, and no p=ovision was ;nade fr~r any street extend-
inq to tchess~ properties whi~~tn had anl.y an aqricultural or temporary easeu ent,
howevc~r, the Acceas Potnt Study ~~tdted thar at such time as all ~ropertiee along
5anta ar.a ~ar~yon Ruad developod, the propeitles :nust ~ompl~~ ~rith tho Acce~g
Point S~udy, therefore, staff would zacomm~nd tha~t ,='-reet be placed to th~a
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MINU~.rES, ~~TiY [~I.ANN.iN", COMMZS52oN, April 30, 1973 '~3'2y''
ENVIRONP~I;NTnL IMl'ACT RL:I~ORT N0. 94, RECLAS.~IP'ICATION NO. 72~-73-45, VARIANC~ t~in.
2499, AND 'PF.NTAT7.VF MAP OF TRAC'P NO. 577~ __~Contl.nued) __._~_~_.,___.~ _~.~..
south of aubject E~~.op~rcy y r_hat wn~,n theeo adi~~i~>>T.9 ProNar.ty ownore ~,ropo~~ ?
ta duvelop their• ~r.oporties, thay woulit have ai:cos~ t~ Santa Ana Can~~~ti Roed
through Acc~:~r~ E'oint `~. .in r~ddiL•i~n, the ~~~ljoini.ng ?~-ucz~ p.srcel. sh~~n13 1-ava
a atiiU yt z'eot from sub ject prc~orty~ !9) ~h,~t t.hF d~ ~~insg~ probl.om h+ad b4en
di.~cunfa;•d nt e m~e:ing w~th the devulo~c~r and ony ~~~~~~-s on Apzil. 27, .l?73, at
which tlmr the dr indge probJ.~m nnd OF~~~CJtat~011f, wc~rn fai.rly ~all r~~r~~~lvc+d and
al.tc~rr~ntiu~s weru prHSC~nt~+d to tha c~evnloping .om~ .i~y whor.al:,y they could develop
in accoxclanc~:~ with tho Goneral Plan Amendment.
Chairman 5c~ymaur noted *i~e~t tho c:ommieAion ir~ no way or AIl'j~ etretch of L•ha
imagination carod tu be csrbiL•rary, and moet. ti.m~~x L•h~~ i,ommission had heard
pro je^~:.e ovc~n thouah R compl.ate summ~ti~n had ,ac bger. ~r•eaont.rd to them, bu~.
it would a~paar with thr~ cocnmc~nts hy Comm.fflsiot~~:r F~azbR' an~] camments mnde by
Mr. Roberte, tlia~ tl~ere wero sa many qu~ntiti.os in thi.s particul~r developmont
th~st werQ unreaolvod that there wae no r~lteznative loft to Lh~ ~ommisaion but ko
con~intita it ~int.il at ~.o~st the majoriCy oL• t:hosa problems w~~rQ ironod ~iit, snd
on thctt b~sis, he would entertc~iri a mo ~.on.
Commieaiunar Harbat. off:ered ~~ moc.ion t.~ canti.nuA conaider.ation c?f Envlronmc~ntal
Impact 12eport Na. y4, Recta i.fiu~~~ i.on No. 72-73-45, Va.riance N~~. 249 a~ and
Tontative Map of. Tract No. ~/'7H to tha meoting o£ May 30, i973, in or.der to
allow timo for the engineer.s r.o rectesign thair tracl~., 11:corForRting ~~ 1. of th~
concerna expr~eaec3 by the Plarining Commit~sion 1nd etaff, C~+mmiaaicn~r Ka~wor~d
secondod the mot.i.on.
Ms. ~~rns ~dvised khe Commiasion that alth~~ugh thi~ had been ciiRCUSSed with
r~t^.!'~, he still feit tho Commissi.on should take some action; whereup~n Ciiuirman
Seymo~ir noted that tk~e petitioners would Y-mve to wait until the Commiaslon
voted or. the mation bef:~~re theni.
On roil call, the foregoing motion pdS9~C~ by a vete c~c six "ayes" and one
abstentfori (Cammiss~oner Rowlend ab~tained be.^.ause iie had not heard tlie ful.l
testimony ~~n th~ propoctal) .
Commiasicner Far.ano skated that he would like at.af.f to present a complete ai:d
fu1.1 digest of wvc ; convers3ti.on of inea~i.nqs between the staff an3 ~che peti-
tioner%develaper or ,.~s r.epres~ntatives, and he wuuld furtner li.ke to have some
inf.orr~ation ~s to ~~~hy ti: }r,ct map was pYepared in k`~bx~uary of 1973, and wit2~.
all of the problems di~:~us:. ~, r:o change k~acl been made to thi^ tract m~g.
CONUITIONAT~ USE - PliisI,IC t[EARING. ISLAMIC SOCIETY, 243 Juanita Way, PJ.acentia~
PERMIT N0. 1391 Ca~ 92670, Ownert SAFA1# E, B;,VA~'i, 2154 Nowell Ave7ue,
~~i Row:Lar~d Heightar Ca. 91?48, ~qent; requesting per.miasion to
EaTAALISIi A r'HURCH T.ND CUT,TU :AT, ANU SOCIAL ACTIVYTIES CE,NTEF.
WATVTNG MINIMUM NUMBER OF REQUIRED ~ARKING ~PACES on ~?roper.ty de~-ribed as: An
irregularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately .7 .~c es, ha~~ing
a fronta~Q of a~pr~xi:nately 279 feot on the oouth side of San~a Rna Canyor. ~.oac1
having a maxi.rlum dapth of app..~ximal:ely 135 ieet, and be;ng located approximat~ly
20 fe~t v~enti oE r.lie cen+~rline of Pera].ta HL11~ Drive. Property preseritly
classified R-•E, RES7llI~,N'.1' ",L EST.A'tLS, ZONE.
Thir~y-iive peisataQ i.ndir,a~eci 'their pr~r^nce in appoaition.
A3~t~.stant Planne~ I~liillip Schwartzo revie~ed the lo ~Fi~~n of subject pronF:rty~
uses esta!.~lished in cJ.c~~e ~roxi.mi*_y, p~evious zoning ~ct.~on otl the praperty, ~nd
tre proposal to es¢ablish an Islamic Ra:igious Cent.er whicn w• ~id be cor~structed
in at lea~t two phases, with Phase I projer.ted to include a.: '.}0-squa.re fuot
facility naving ~ kitchen, u~ilit.y room, restraom~, staff UfLlr.t and recepti.~n
area, and ~S 14~i2-squd<e foot prayar hall for reliyicu~ ser~~i.ce and aultural.
acLivitiasj that Phase ~I would in~lude possik~ly the ~e~oain'~y atructur~s whi~h.
wou~d be an edditzoe.al 263G squara feet o~ floo~ spac~. nd a 43ti0-square Fo~t
praygr hall, totaling 38~~ square feet ior tt~e entire project, and 25 rarkin5
epacea ~r~re being Fropo~ed ~n L•he Aito~ that uff-streat parking for ':he fira~
~haEe wc~uld be a total of 10 p~rk~ng spaces; Chat the Anaheim MunicipaZ Code
would requiro or~e parking space pet fiv~ ~e~t~ in a~ancr.uary, however, th~o
~ruposal would have no fir.ed aea~:c~ ~n the pra;~Fr hall, and in vi3w of thi:. f.b~~c
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Ct>NDITIONAI, US~ P~RM'LT NU.M! 391 (Cont:inued)
r.be p~rkin~~ ~•~~quiraments tur. asaemUly hxlls wae ret~.~ r~>d tu fv~~ parktng ~oqu~.r.o-
m~nte ~L one s~~,ece nc~r .i~ :~~~~~~>> e fe.et ~f ae$embly area, wliaul~ •~~~ ~i ~j m~~r~ ~ n
totel c~! A? p~erkiny epace3 x'oqulxcid fur tha fir~t plc~n~t that r.hc• pat..~cion~~~
ftirth~r stat~d th~t tha maxin~~im oa.~upancy woul.d be ~>9 in ~hc pr-~y~ ~- }ial]. a^d
pro~~se~d c.~~iy c.hc~ c~~~uivc~lant of }~~rking eta~ncl4rds rypecilie~ in L•he r,annrat
P~~~vieiona uf cha An~.<<oim Municiy~Al Cod~, ar one parkiny epucQ per live ae+~te,
~n.~lclnq t~ total oP lU ~pac~s~ for thd first ~zheeo~ thut: acca~s was pror>;,r~ad from
the pa~•kiny 8Y'08 thxoucih a 25-foot wido rlrivAwdy to Feraltr~ iltlls Drive~T ~n~1
ti~a~ the flrst. ~~ase u_ the ~ro~~osed center would bo conetructod wi.th a Atruc-
turel axkor:or ° Span.i.sli deoi.yn wit.h a- meximum h~ight• of iG f:e~r...
Mr, schwr~rtzo, iri x•~vi~awiny tho evnluation, et~til:~d that a reque~t for. ex~emption
fr.um the requ.iromente ior filing of an ~;nvironment.ol Impact. itc~~urt t~ad heon
aubmittdc], ard etaff'd ovalua~tian of the requeat wou~d in !.r.atQ no significa~nt
envir.onm~ntel impact, thar.efora, r.ecomm4,nded f~xo-~ption decla-ation ~tatus b~
gr~anted~ that the Anahcii:n Genexal 1~Lan pr~ jects tha aroa f~r low• ;en;ity ~e~g1.~
~iential devalopmant, but : f on~ sp~ce pe±z• 35 ec~uaru fa~t af f1ouY area for
parking was r.oquired for ~saembly hallr~, tliis would mean 165 :~pa~ceu wi~uld l;o
requ7.xed, while ~n1y 2ts nT>~~c~s weia Nropoaed at »ltimate development~ t:iat. tY~~
c~ubmitted plans fttY•the: in~~icated tho pr.ayer hMll to b~ constructed {n th~ ful•uru
phaA~ would be loc.alecl a distan~.e of. only lU t3et from thh we: t prop~r~y ] inc~,
wh3rraa tha R-E Z~;ne st•ay~dards would req~.~ira at leasL 15 feet r.rom all pcoperY.y
].ine3 t and that th~ Pl.anni.ng Cummission would wir~h t~.> de'.ermine whethc:r t•he
l0-f~ot Retbaek was adequate or whetller 15 feet shoulc~. bc. Yequired.
Idr. Saf.aa Bavati, ngent for khe petl.tior~er, ind~.cated his pr~yEnce ~o answe.r
questi~~ns, et~xti.nq he would like tc, hea~ whst rhE uppositi.on had to say before
he presen~::cl hi~ statements.
Chairman Soymour advised the petitzoner. of th6 pzvicedure f_~llo4~ec1 b~ t-~e Cummic~-
sion, concludi.ng by statirig t}ie petiL••l.oner. ~~~~uld h:,ve an oppoztiini - for re-
but`.~.1.
Mr Bavati then stated his only addi.tionaZ com,..c~~t.s tn thosa m~!9• Y~y :-taff would
be regarding the parki.ng requirementyP since dile to physica2 11~ t.ations of. those
who practicad this religion, there wou:~.d be no need to provide ~ ws; ~hat the
Qpace for each part.icipant would be 3x4 ieek, and the entire ha]1 c~,uld hc:~use
a maximum only 59 people, thezefore, the parkinq r~~? iu of 5:1 could very read3.ly
applp in tile parkinrt requi.rements, and this wcul.ci be Zdoq~~3te for tlie:ir nee.ds.
Mr.. 3rian IIittke, 372 Peralta Hi1:1s U.rive, Presi~'ent o~ the P~ralta ~ii11s I[o*ne-
owr-~rs 1lssociatiot~, ap~~ec~r~~d befcre the c:~mir.isaion in ~ppo~ition, requAstinr
that subject petii:ion be deniad on ~he bHSis oL statements m~.3e in the Repo:t
to the Commissiori that the .property fn Peral' 1 Hilla was zoapd Reaident:ial
Eatates, which establi~shed low-dEn~ity development~ ar,d a ch+irct: would be cc~t~-
tr.xry tu wliat was establisl~ed on the General P1anT that t}ie Commir~sion was
fami.l3.~r w{th Pzra] + Nil'.R Drive, which, a¢ best, was a two-lane ruad which
could not handle nore ~.raffic than it presently had fro:~l resi.~ents~ a:~d
t}tat the buildir~ :~~tbac'. was also noti withizi t}~at prescriAed by Coda.
Mr. F3lttke further ,lat.e~ tha~. all zesident3 of t.heir organizztion felr ve~ ~
strorqJ.y abou`. ad~'_.na tr~ffic to this rural area, and the Cumm~ssion hav~.,~r
visited t. •t area. m~.-~7 ti.mec, ~rere quitQ familiai. with i.i:. and the rra.ff9.c
problems on thr ~' rcet: that in 1572 a similar request fnr ~i chur.cr was rr~~-
posed at Santa Ana Canyon Doaa and Cerro Vista Drire, about "~,-000 ~~et eastexly
of ~the prok~o..~d ~ite, and the ComNissior aas qu.i te Pa~,~i.liar wi . t,ieir position
at ChaL- time : and Chen revieweci comments mada by several of ~ e C~>mmi.sa9.onera
as thef appoared in the minutes of ~he Ma,~ 1, 197^, public ' r'ng, a~hich wer~:
als~ a part of the £inding3 of deni.-~1 by thP Pltntting Comm l.en, and then
stated that based upon the agreeman~ bekwean the Gity of 1-n:helm and tne .4eraltn
Hills residents at the time tlie pz~o~er!:v war~ ~rnexed .~to the city, denial of
the proposa? wuul.d be a.n order, as :~~:1 as ;~oblemP set forth rPga ~91~g ~ha
traffic.
Mr. Uav: , Y1r~to, 12~1 Soutt~ Nohl Canyon Foad, Pzesident of the Nohl l:anch :tome-
~ ownara Asaoc'~tion, appeared before the ~ommi~s:.on in n~,position and st:~te~
his urganiz~ation rer-rQshnted approximately 300 iami.liea re4~.diny ~om~v~t~at to
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MTNUTGS, CT'I'Y PI.ANtal'r~G COMMISS:[ON, lApril 30, 1'373
~GNDI~.`IONAL USF. PfRt~1IT_NO. 1.391 (Continued)
73-2A8
tho w~et - a faw hund~.•e,d Peat fr.om aub,~A~ ~.. pr.~~l,orty - notinq tt~at biA orqaii~ -
r,ation had 4antlnuouBly oppoeQd commor~ial or qua~i-commercial uA~s eurround-
ing t}ia Na1~1 Ranch area, an~ hiE urgan' zation war~ ~im.i].axly oppoded ta ~ho
~,topoPe~l tequ~et nnc~ recomnt9nded deni.aa af same, particult~rly WI1811 it wae
pz•uposed to hnve thie devolopment tn st.aqe~, ttte zo~.i~ente of ttid ~roa wc.uld
be f~c~d wit(- a commorcinl. vor-ture c~nlr ~•~i n:~; and tt~at he woi~ld recommend the
aroa be r~etained Yor~ eingle~fnmity uet~ ~n ~cco~~rnco with the Ger.aral Pl~+n.
~tr. BaveL•i, bruthar oF the •~ient ,for ~1,~ peti~ioner, d~p98Y~(~ bvfore che
c:ommia~ion in tavcr o~ our.~~G~. pe.t.ition, eCat:lny hA wae wit}~ thh Los Angales
i: ~unty Road D~dQertmenfij that t.he oppcHiti ~n had indicatod tho proposed us~
would increA3e kh~ ts'affir_~ howevor, the:.~+ Nould ~b only 59 indivi.dua's uaing
this Eacility at one tim4, wliich Nou1.3 na` causa any traffic proh3.r~ma sinco
only four to fiva cdr~ wou1~9 be conin9 pa~:h hour~ that. rdferor~c~ mado as to
thia b~ing a comn~arcial Jp~I'8t.~Q11, he aou!b like to ~ua~ there werc~ v~ry fc:w
c~f their rol igion .ln Southorn Califarnir~, ui~~1 at ~.he ~resent timo they dld
not have tt centex, anci i.f the ~~r.•ooasQ3 developniei-t was condtructod, it woul.d
be tY-o firnt ofi?_cial Islami.c c~nr.e:r outaic~e of Searamontc~r tt1Ati t.hEy cam-
pzie~d on~.; 15 fAmili~s presently ~:oming fron ov~en R.i.vergide, witl~ some mom-
bgXS heirg pro~essors, doctors, and bLSineeemon~ arxd that thPy ~~re not a
fanati~: :all.~ion.
ML. S. Bavati, in rebut:t:al, ~tated ~~~ere wuuld be a r:aximum af 15 f3mi11ea
or F~0 peopldt that thdy wuuJcl abide y the rec~uired ].5-°~0~ building netbac,.,
azid hE could. nok see how ono could consider a religion a commercial uae since
~11 thair r:ligi~n woulii do was fight *.ouUle.
7'HE HE}1RING r1AS CLOSED.
Commissioner ci~arbs . r. ~ted that the Plai~tiixtg Commioaion wAS very familiar with
tha pr~greas oE cr.ur~'.~es t~ec:ause many starced r~s very emall orqanizai_ions, as
t.he petition~er :taimed t:-e~-: religion wouid be, Yiowever, in a ahort tiu~e these
churche~ outgrew thAix smal.l ~~~iar.ter~ ~nd moved tU lar.ger quarters, and t:~ese
sniall £acit~;:ie~ w~ra '-'~en ~~~].d to ~,nothor hur~h juat being etar~ed, whirh
miant thia would be a conti:uous project of a new church outgrowing its facili-
tiest that the Commission .~as riot conaiderzng th+~ requeat on the basis uf a
religtous problem but only on the basis of land ~se, but a~ with pos3ible
~~arkiny probl~ms dince so few stalls were proposed n~w ~nr~ in the future, r;tii.ch
appeared *_o be *_otn7 ly i~iadequatgt that in~ection of ott~~r th n.rura? residen-
tial usee on' 'eralta t,i11s Drive cauld cxeate problems ior he .~ce ~ and
that the P1 ig c:r,mm; ;sion just a ye~r ~go denied a s~.milar ..eq~+est ior a
church in P:;,.a1ta Hill:;a
Mr. Bavati advised the Commission ~:hat the expan9lon would he vexy amall fur
th ~s religion, and only those who ~aoulc' be practicing ~hia would be those wlio
had come fro~~ "the olc~ country" .
Cnmmissioner Faranc~ in 1uired of De~,uty City Attorn.ey Fzank Lowzy wk:ethe•r or
r.ot he and Commiasionc Allred c~u].d parti~ipate in ttiis action since they
were, i-esicieats of Noh] Ranch, and he was a member ~~~ tha No}il Ranch tlomeowners
AssociatianY pven tho~~h he h~.d a':end d aniy two meetings in five years -
wauld this diaqualify him?
k1r. Lowry advise~d C~mmissioners Allxed and I'arano that thei r a:.aoci~ti~~l
appe:zred to be so rem: te tliat he did not feel th.~~ needod ~:o refrain fzam
participation in thie actian.
Com:nissioner RJwland of£asPd a motion, seconded by Cammis~ionex Gau~r and
MOTION CF.A.:LED, that the P].anr:ing Co:nmission, in conne~tion With an xemptio::
decJ.aratii.on atat.ua °equeat, i,1ds and deterroinea that the propo: al wot~ld :.ave
nc signl.ficant environmental 1n;pact, and, ther~~ore, recommende o thc Citg
~~~unc11 that no A:nt•ironmental Impact Statement 9.a necassary.
;;~mmissl~ner Herbs~ offw.recl Resolution No. PC73-92 r~nd mov~cl for ito pesa4~e
an~ ~cio~~tion to deny Peti~ion £or C~ndit:ianal Usa Pcrmit No. 1391 on the baa1~
thaY. cha City ~f Anaht~tm upon ar~nexat±.an of tho F@XAltA Nilla Area made an
agreem~nt. to retaln ~aid ar.•ea in ita rural ..esi,~ienc.lml atm~sphare, rand the
M~NU'~ES,
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CITY PLANNING C_'OMMIS3ION, A~z'il 30, 1973
CONDI'P.LONAL ~~:~F PFRMIT N0. ] 391 (Conts.c~ued)
73~249
propor~ed t~se wauld be .Y r-an•-rnsi.dentiel uee encroachinq ~nto thim nrea~ thAt
in urdc+r to mulntAin che int•egrity of the City n! Anahaim und to insuro t.ha~t
r.he qood t'aith ot it:~~ citir~ens wae rmtai ied, tiio nn~oxnkian agrnbnsant macie I•y
tho City to the r~,ai~~-~nta of Peralta H.ills ari~utri k~c: hon~~-odt ttiat uredor t~ity
Council Policy No. 207, rAA~denLS ~i L•it~s Purnlt.a lii],.1~, araa wAra aeaured r.r~nc.
the rux~1 amenitia~ ~P the are~x would bA rAtainad by n~~t requiring the ~stand-
ard cit•y curb~ aai:t quttara for atroeta, huwever, ~i.th tt~e ueo prapoeKd, on-
ytreek par.kinc~ co~~ld be unticipatc~d, which couZ1 be extrAme~ly hn~tiardoua in
:his urea where a!:rente woxe narrower thari 8t.d11d4Y$ r.ity et~eete~ thAt ~.:~~
size and shnp~+ of rha biCo is not adequate recduee o! topograptty end ~errrin
to a11ow tha fuJ.l davo'opme~nt of the p.ro~oeed uee in a munn~r not drLri.mrntal
to the azaa nor to th~.~ pe+soe, henl~h, eaf~+ty and general welx'ara of the citlzer~d
of the C3.t~ og Flnaheim~ ancl tt~At land uoe~ ~t the sror hnd not cl~a~nc~ed ainco
the~ Planning Commiseion ~-re~~i~ualy danted a chuz•a~a request~ei in roralka uille
to warrant favnrabi.e conHi.d~ration o~' the pz~poae3 ~equ~~~t. (See R~es~lut.l.~n
Book)
on rol.l csll th~ f~r~ yui.nq xesolution was passc~d by t.he iollowfng vo_e:
11Yr.S: CUMMISSIONEF.S: A'.Lred, i'arano, Gauar, Herbet, K~ll11WOUdo nsk~aand,
Seyrr~ur.
P70ES: COMMISSION~RS: Nane.
ARS~NT: CGM!f!SSTUNI;RS: None.
CONDITIONAL USN - PUBLI~C H~;AR7:NG. ADGLINE Tk10MPSON FEC:I'1'ER, 5155 Csltar~.
PLRMIT NO. 59fi "nolls, San Jos~~, Ca. 95135, t)wndr; GEORG~ ANA S'~EV~N
(REAnVERTISED) LANE, 4401 San I'ornando Road, Glondale, Ca. ~.31204, Agentj
~ requeating permission to G~STASLISH A DRi'VE-IN DA??X IN
ADDITI0t7 TO AN EXISTING W.+LK-UP REST1#JK.ANT ANd MTNIA'CClRE
GOI.F COUR5E on pxoparty describad as • Ai~ L-ehaped par.cel ~f lar~d conrsi.stiny
of appro:cimately 3.9 acre~ ht-vinq trontayes of approxi.mately Q66 feo~ an Che
3outh sicle of Lz- Palnia Avenue, approximate?y 166 fEet on the eRat sido of.
Magnolia Avenue, and being located south and eaRt o!` the southeast corner oE
La Palma and Magnolia Avenues. Proparty pre~ently classif~ed C-1, GFN~RAL
CUb;MERC'7AL, ~.ON~.
No one appe~red in uppotsition.
Althouyh l-he Rc~porr to the Commi~sion •:us not read a~t t.he nublic haaring, ft
ia Xefer.red to and made ~~ par.t of *:~e mi nu~~as.
Mr. Doug W~6!?~ repzesenting *;ie agent fo t}ie~ patitioner, anpeared bef.ore ~he
Commiasion and r~tated tt~~ t;he property .~ad been ~acant for eight years~ and
the opc~rator of Y.he Lur~~ Dairy felt t ia w~v1d be a qood location eince the.re
was a rieed tor it ir~ the comr.~unity for '-his typa of u~e becauae of tho heavy
r~*sidential uses ;.o the sauth, w~~t, en~ eaet.
Chairman Sev:~~our inqui~•ed as to whether or not th~ p~tit.ioner would h~ ,ree-
abl~ to r~locatin~ the tr.ash bint where~ap~n Mr. Wisa Htate3 that the~~ woul.d
,re`_er cetain±ng che t.•ash bin as s~ibmitted on the plans, however, if th«~
::.vmm'_ssiun so required, thep would relocato it.
~r+ir H~:~Rixc, wa~s cz.os~n.
Commissionor A~.lred off~red a motion, aecvndad by Ccammiaeioner K~~.~~ood and
MOTION CARRTE~, that th~~ Planning Commieaion, in conn~c~ion wirh an pxemp*_ion
declaratiion status requae " finde and determines thati the ~rapoeul would }i$ve
nu aigrifican~ enviionmental impact, an~1, ~herefore, wcuic~ rec;,mtnenc~ to tl~e
(:ity Council. that no Er.vironmantal Im~act Sta~~PC~ent is ri~,~c,oseary.
Com:ni~eioner. Kaywood inquired wh~ther or no~. f.he lrive~~~ar 7n.: +~rea for pa~'.:in7
adj~cent to tha ~muaemant ~r~a would be suf~icient fox both u~es~ wh~~r~up~n
Mr. Wi~e srated tha* thib was r~oM the only driv~ fai~ the rocr~rati~~: ~rda ci.,~ce
there wae ~~ e cn L•s Y~ima At•enua~ an~ tr~at thc use4 ~:Cill would be u7de~x +:he
same ownership.
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MINL1xF.5, CIT'i PLANAIXNG Cbl•1MISSION ~ Apr~.l 3~, 1.973
C~~iVD7'PIONAf. USE PERMIT NO.. 5~8 •-_REAUVER~IS~.~ (C~»tin~i~~1?
~ommiesloner Norbet. inquirad ae L•u t.tio facr thaC an r~dcll.t.ional. ~roe-etanding
nign was ~ropvedd; wi~ern~~pori Mr. Wise ar.atad rhat chc~ze waA one eign on La
Palma Av4nue advertieing thF uc~o, nn(i ~- Hnx~-icr, etr+~lar. was Z~ce~e~! or. the
cozz~er~ wh~ 1~ thie Ne laulRr fscl.lity woul~i Le f.r.anLinq o~ti Nagna'I.~a~ P-~~ri~~.
q»d ~Lat Chey Mou1A •tlpulatn r.o ~wot:n4 C<'da rbc~trirRmenL•~ +~~ tu ~i~qninq.
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O~i~sios-er A.lrsd oti~rs~ c~ ~inh~ e~oand~d by (1~~~~nnanei~,~-er Ki Mrocxl ,:.~t ~"YON OAtiRI~~ th~+t,
1;he F]an~~in~y 'v'0[~II:I99~.GI1, in onl~hbotion wii,r- nn i~x~m~:~i~n A~u'aration StAtuS rayueet, fiad~ A.na
~~etarmines ttiat t;he propoea-1. would he-v~ no g' tfiot~nt ~nvir~?n[~i~ni;a:L impaoi., e-nd t11~3refare, i•U~-
otnmen,d~ to +,he C'ty Qo~Ynoi7. thnt no ~n•~~.r~nme,•.ts-: lm~ . ~ Stst~men", an nnoe~~~ry. (M~nuta oorr~ot,i.on
Mny 3U , 'L973 )
Caasni.~sianar Gauei ut~~a:.ed Re~~luti~u t~l~. F.:73-83 n~cl aaovad fo~ itd pAe~waqc~
wnd aGupt.ian ko g.rnnt ret.ition tor Condit:lonM1 Ue~o BL?.~n1a No. 590, ost+xbl~eh-
~ng a dri.vo-in dairy in sddiL•ion to th~ existing ~,s~~^ ~l.ready approvo~, aubject.
to cc dit.~ons an3 t.he stip~t:l ~cion by •.t,e p~titiunnr t~.hat ttie tra~~ ~torar~o area
woui~i be relocal~ed c~nd that ai.g~iina would hr~ in concurmxnce wiCh Code r.equire-•
m~iatg. (sec~ FeRCl ation Baok;
On ro]1 caZl the fcregoing resulutiun wa.~ pt1~E1~-'r' `~y t.he folicwittg vote:
AYES: COMMISSIJNERS: Allred, Earario, Gauez,~ ~i'~str K~°~Yw~od, Seymovr.
NOE5: GOMMISSIONER:;: None.
4F3SENT: COt•It1ISSIUNERB: Nonc~.
ABS'CAIN: COMMIS5IO:aEkS: Rowl~nd.
ENVIRONME°'TAL i~1FaCT - PUBJ TC H~ARING. R013F.RT LOUIS T+ND HF..I,EN AL'L,GEYER CLARK,
REPOR'P NO. >>1 134`_'i-}~. V.icturia Gr.iva, Fuller*..on, Ca. 925:i1, Ownerst
~ R(1LtERT ~II.f37~lJGll, 444 Wef~t Ocean Boulevard; Long B~ach,
CONDILYUNAL USE Ca. 9080J., Ayent:j re~~~~e~tzng pe~misaion tc ESTABLISI~ A
r^~RMIT NO. 1385 MECHANICAI~ CA12:Vi1SH I, U SLRVIC~ ~TATION WAZVZNG (ni
~ ~ MINIMUM NUMBEF± l~T' 1~1 ?UZRED I'ARKING SPACES~ (G} ~ipXIN1UM
NUMIIER OT E~'IZE:ti-•STA: ~ING STGNS~ ANA (C) MINIPI(~!4 D7STAN::E
BETWEL•N FREC-STAr,aING SIGNS oa pro}~exty cl lcribed as: An irregular~y-shape~
parcel of land located a'.: the northeast~. c ri~er of La Palmn Avenue and brc,ok-
hur.sL Str~et, havzng rpproxi.mate frontagc of 15~ fe~et on the nor~n side of
La Palma Avenue and 150 feet on the east >tde of Bx:ookhuryt St1~eet. Proper.ty
presently classified C-1, GENERAL COMMEFtCTRL, ZONE.
Nc one appeared in ~pposit.i~ri.
Although the Re~~ort. to ~he Commission wa:~ not read zt fhe public l:earing, S.t
i5 referred to and madE a part ~f the m.ir.~ites.
Mr. T2. J. 5~ Lbaugh, rr~ ~resentit~g 5tandard Oi~ ~ompany ar~d ~qent far the ceti-
tioner, appeare~ before j.he C~mmiseion and n.nte3 that the~, groposacl to remove
the exist~ng l.7-yeEr ~~id eer~•ice station located ac the riocthoc ;t corn~~ of
9roakhurst Street a~;~ 1,:. P~.lmr Avenue t.nci replace it w~th the ~ype of ~chi-
tecture on the render±ng on exhibit on the .+ear. Counci~. Chamber wallt and
~t~en zeviewed t'ie r~_r.dering, no~i.n~3 tl~at approxin~ately 2`a of the area would
be landscaped, profes~lor,ally inatalieci ai~d maintained with automat.~c irriga-
yion; that in t•.he Environmental Impact keport: ~ubmiL•tod it waa indicar.ed how
thcy had met the requirements of tha City o£ Anaheim Noise Ordinance: that.
the Traf~ic ~nyir~~er indic3ted there wou1~.1 be no addition~t t.r.affi.c Greate3
by this ~ropa:+al, and th.ia would bo a pr~:per use £or that intexscctiont t:hat
another item to r.~neic3er was the number of cioged seYvice :tation3 in tha CitY
af Anaheim, and becauDQ of that. 2+~ yaars a~qo they felt thr,~L• as s leadei: of
the indu:::ry they aD~ould do some~hing abou+. i:t, and they had taken sceps an3
had a pro ject regnr!:ing how t.h:y plan,led •tu tr~ke car~ of clo~ed service
station Froblems in the .^,it~• cf Ant~heir~.
Commiasioner Farane r.aque~ted ~l;at the agent poi.n+ out un tta rendering wnere
the sacond n:lgn waa 1oc.~tadf whereupon Mr. Silt~augh bt.atod that that would bo
the lighter box on ti~~ of ~'i-e punip i~tlar.d, and, £urthe.rmore, Iie tiau not ex-
plained tho locatior, of kh-: other r~ign, hov~e4er, t.hey weze removin, the osiet-
+ng sig~ and chc~~ging Che :limenaion of i:he ~igr., as indicated on ~he exhibit,
w.ith a he~.yht uf only 24 feet and ~hur~e han;inq ~.>ver kha pum~ wnu18 ~e 7.ightor
bc:ces anu would haw~~ only the luy~ on the b,~x.
Mr. Siibaugh chen prea~sn+e~l the mannger of t"tt~ St~nr3ard O.:_ C~mpany in thia
area aho kould explai~, thn prc:yx~am undertaken by th~ alrndaxd Oil Company.
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MLNUTES, CTTY PI,ANNING C~MMTS9ION. April 30, 1973 ~S'"~gY
ENVtRONMENTAL YM'?ACT R~:PORT N0. 91 AND CONDiTTONAL USE pERMIT N0. 1365 (Cont'd
Mr. John tiar~+, 8 tandArd 01.1 ComQsny, the~i ~reesn~4d thn P1a~nning Commiw~+~:-
with e brochur.e i.nd.i.7atinq ttisir propo.al, u^+~.ng Anaheim ~e e te~t oity ~aq~x~-
1.n; tha upqrad.f.ng t~f. earvic.a «tntionr ~.nfl removal o! cloaed 0ervics r~~atian~.
Mr. War.e furth~r noted ti~+~~ the Commisaion recer~tly updat~d the o~rvi~o~ stati.an
azitarid in the Anaheim M~inic~.pal Code, And one ~f the rac~uiremente~ pertai.nad
to oloead aervi~e atnf onr, h~w~var, Z4 yAt~rs agr~ tlie~ t-ad deve,lopeB Chi~
maa~sr plan ~ux• Anaha~.a~, nt whiah tirue thoy had 33 ekAtions and ha-d *~ thia
date a~i.minat~d 11 0! them, or a reduation o! 3a~ of. the ~tationd, t.:~d tha
remainder would be u~qradmd atter they hnd made e thor.ough analyaiA o! the
~xieting etationea *.hat th~sy alma planned to change tho Porm of ms2katinq
becausa this wao wher. the c.urtomera war~ requestingi that they had .psnt over
$i50-000 on tho Harbor Houleverd and Kata2la Avenue atnt~i.on, and tha amount
o! bueinesa ha3 not increaaed or dearoaeed Pxom that previoue?y enjoyed~ thet
tha eiL•e a~ Drook.~urRt Rtreet a~nd La Falmu Avenua, after ana~lysie o! the arma,
indicRted th~t the propoded uae would fit iato ~:he mt~etor plns~ tor '-~.nhaim and
would be conaistent. with whdt the Anahaim Planniaq Commis~~on oxproayed in
the~.r concerns re^garding aervia~e etntionsi e-nd that he hcpe~l tha Planning
Commiseion would ooneidar. eubjecC ~a~:ition fav^~ebly ~ix-ce it w~s a chsnqe in
the uso for this +~raperty.
ComTisaioner tiorbst noted thnt he haEi been ver} idamr~.nt rAgarding aoxvica
etation siyning, and QI1C? day while h~ ertt at the corner aE K~-tel].a Avenue +~nd
Harbor Boulevard, h.~ had cc~~~nted 17 chevzons~ that somc peopla miqht nat
consider tl~ia eigniny; but it waa advert.isi.nq, and in hit~ own pezeonal cpinion,
Standard oil was taki.,: ~ awa~~ from thP nppaarance of this fACiliCy~ tha~_ he liad
visitec~ other cities wher~ t;:aX h~d Standa~rd service ~tationa, dnd they aiQ not.
allow the many signs tliat ha:~ been requasted t~n~i permitted in t~-e C1ty p~
A~ahoim, and theae serviae stAtiona wern much inorc~ attrac~.ive than those tha.t
wera locatPd i.n Anaheim beaauge oY the over-eigni.ng~ and that since the S*undard
011 Company had been ruque~~~ing gelf»servica siqninq, thie had opened u~ the door
far other caervice Ptation~ as~~tng foL :~milar. signirig.
Mr. Ware advised the C:ommt~r~ion thrt he had not intended to enter inLe tha
~cigniny iasue at this p•abl~c hearinq, but hin company did recognize the ~roblem
and alea the P~anninq Commi~einn expressed feelinge, but ~his praposal would be
a great im~,r~:~~ment to the area.
THE HEARTNG WAS CLOSED.
Co~rmissioner Kaywood offered a motian, seconlled by Commiasianer Rowland and
MOTION CARRIED~ that the Planninc~ Commisaion. flnda xi~d determineH that ~nviron-
menfia.l 7mpact Rep~rt Na. 91 conforma to the requirementa of the eatablished
guldolinesJ that tha propoaed facility would have no aiqnificant envir~nmental
impaa::t that the noise usual~y as~ociated w!th carwdsh 4quipmont ha~d miti~ating
measuros providedJ and that the Plann~ng Commisaion would recom.mend to the City
C~unail the adopti~~n of Fnvirozmental Impact Aeport No. 31 a~ the City Council'e
statement.
~iecussion was held betwEen tbe Commieeion and the a~J~nt f~r tk~e petitiuner
zeqarding L•he proposal wherein onik 4 pnrking spacea werQ proposed, while 9
were reguired, and upon it~s conc.lusi~on, the ac~en* etat.ed tha~ his clients cou].d
prepare a legal agreement to provide adc9ltional parkir~g to tha Qaot by p~ax'chae-
iag th~le for parking purgoaes.
Deputy City Attorney Frank Lowry ad~~ised the Commisalon and the agent for the
pet~tioner that the City of Anaheim ~cnquired that any document propoRed to bo
dn agze~ment WherebX off-eite pa~rking wae being provided shall be in effect
for the length ef the u~Q spprovad undaz the conditional use permit, and eome~
times owners found it difficulk to submit thle kincY of a documenti whs:~.upun
Mr. Silbsuqh atated they would be qlad to submi+: the pz~poaed document to the
City At~orney for approval.
Th~ C~mwiasi.on then inqu~red aa to ~ha operation of ~he blo~eza whon dryiag
the vehicle~~ whereupon Mr. a'ilbaugh sta-ted that L::ey would be usinc~ eatt water
and the vehicie wor18 he bl~wn dxy wh11e tho owner eat in the vshicle Lhrauqh-
out the entire carweol: cycle, and that this would ba an exterior carwa~h onl•~.
a~nd no interier c2eaning would be 9una.
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MTNUTES, C.LTY PL~NNTNG COMMISS'tON. April 30, ~913
73-252
FNVIRONMENTAY~ 2MPAC'T F.FPORT N0. 9~ ANU CONAITIONAL USF P~~2MZT N0. i385 (Cont' d
The Cummi.naian t~.en inqui.ra8 ae Co Mhat the exit dtive rapros~ntafl~ w~h~raupon
Mr. 811bauqh repli.ed that t.t~sy antloip+~~AC o~bout 2• of thc+ cuatomer~ would nnt
asit tq have their vehialed pa~s throuqlt zhe c+-raa~ah and waxe on:ly intmraete~A
in nbtaining fue1, tti~reto~re, thio oxit driveway wouid be Lor ~huir bene+titi
tha~ t:hi.u 2t figure was be~ed upc~n buoin~~s in ot.her ~siu-ilar operat~.unn ia 1:he
northsrn psxt of the ~otatet and that t.h~ry would givd d rraa aarwa~h whethar 2
ar 20 gallane were purr.hatsd.
Con~mi.Aeianer Far~tno note~l rhat thi~ aqze~msyit might be ao at Pir.et, but latar
nn L•he otutic+n c+porAt.fon wuuld chArge A LOb in accardnnco with the amount ot
gac eoldi whereu~on Mz. S~.lbaugh atated thim would be m diPforenl: c~ncep'~ of
onzwaeh, end he did nat feel i.f a limit wae entabliohed that the fncility wou~.d
qenerate the amount of bueinoag i.hey intsnded it ta do.
Mr. Via 3helle,nbazq, representing the cerwdoh c~mpany, appeaxed beP.ore tho
~ommieaion and stiated h~a was available to enewer any quee~.ions ~he Commibnion
might hAVe rc~5tardi.ng ~he eound attenuatian.
Commieaioner Fara:za notei! that Chey had r~vitwad tho di.eserta~Ci~n on eound
attenuation aP the carwaeh~ whez•9u~on Mr. 9heJ.lanberg atateci that thc~y had
comp].ied wi+r.h al1 of the eaund requiremanta ~f the City, and *.hat whA~ La PKlma
Avdnue and Braokhurat Strebt were realiqned and Uridge built, hlier~ would ba n
ch++nge in traf£ic patterna here.
The Commiasion inquired as Co the number Af vehiclea that could be et~cked up
awmitinq tne carwaeli aervicot whereupon Mr. Shellenborq etatad thers wad space
for 10 r.ars bofore khey ontered the qas Qump area~ 4 eddttional spacbs in the
pump aro~n, and boyond the pump tliere would 'ne ro~m for 9 to 12 vehicles, deYend-
ing upnn their siz~.
Mr. Silba.uyh stated that this carwdan opexation wot~ld not hHVe the ea:ne probleme
thet r~qular cnrwash opara-ti.one had becauae ther.a would be a maximum af four
peraona manning the pumpa anc9 guiding ~he custo~nere to tho conveyor.
Mz. Silbaugh, in r.esponae to quesCloniny by Mr. Lowry, stated Che Property p~o••
poaed for pa.rkiny in the event addikinnal parkiny we-s need$d was to the eaet o~
the Taetee-Freez fac~lity which waa about a 40-fo~t wide, unimpx•ovQ3 area.
Toninq Supervisor Ghar~es Robertg noted that in rogard to the parking, when he
had discusAed thie~ w~th Mr. Shellenbe+rg lsst week, no hxd beer~ informed thera
would be a maximum of four employaes ~t a.ny one time, and since Code did not
provide for parking requirecnente i.n automatic carwashes, if the VJ4.mirseion Eelt
more than 4 parkinq spaces kould be aoeded, then eome ar.rangements could P~e
made, however, if 'the Commi~~ion felt A parkinq spaces was adequata for the
antic.ipated number of employeea, the parking wai.vHr cauld be granted, thereby
relievinq the applicant of ~he neoeseity oP makiny arranqementa for extra pArk-
ing by the pur.chaae of the property.
Mr. Roberts further. noted that in regard to the trash collection ~roce~ure,
thAre were three parcela awned by the petiti~ndre and leased, arid Rfte~r k~r-vinq
dlecuased this situation with Mr. Shellenberg, he had aavf~ed st~~f that the:ce
woula bd a cammon traeh area for al~ three ~acels at the northeast corner of
tihe e~.te~ whoraupon Mr. Silbaug:~ noted ~hat thero was a liquor etore and ~h res
othex b~ainess~ea thero, and at Che preeent tfine ttiey had a rather ugly trash
nrea, however, L•hey now proposed to ha~~re ona en~elased traah etorage area wherein
three e~oraqe b~.na would be ].ocated.
Mx. Roberts noted that since these three parcela were oraned by the Clarka, it
would appeaz to be appropziat:e to have t~ co~-mon trnsh stora~e agr9ement ~aub-
mitted to ~he City Attorney ahlch would mot 4orth thai this would be the tra~~h
mtaroqe area in perpetuity Por all ~hzee pax~cele - in the event any o! the
paxcols v-ere sold -~he recordec3 document Nc+uld be the guarsntee that nn~ of the
pascels xould have a common trash aroa.
Mr. 511baugh then stipulated to aubmitting the oommon traeh etor~.a^ agraement
Z~ th~ Ci~y Attorney for nppxoval and recoraatinn~ that t-+exa Woc,ld be a maximum
o! =^ux employege on the pr~pexty at sny on~ tim~~ and that th~=c w~t;ld bo no
f.aeoir ~i9ns~ ~ the property.
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MItVU'!'ES, CITY kLANNING CO"MI~6ION, A~+ril 30, 1973 73'253
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPAC'x REPORT NU. 91 AND I:ONDITIONAI~ C1S~ PLRMZT N0, 13E35 (Cont'd
Cammi~sionex Hsrbct offered Resolutior- No. PC73-f34 and movod foz it• p~~auge
anA edeption to g.ran~t PetiCic>n for Conditiunal Uo~ Perml.t No. 138.°,, subj~ot
to kh• etipula~tion of the i~etitionor regazding tha meximum numbsr ot em~loy4ea,
eul>mi~~ion of a common traeh storaq• nxes agresmeat to th~ City Attarn~x'~
Ol;~ir.A !or approval and reaordation and ~tipulation that there w~u2d be no
lxdcl.~ •iqnei and sub~oot t.o conAitione~ wl.th Ch~ +~dde~ oondi~ion that tho
oMnnra o! eubjoct property ahall subm~.t to tha City l~ttorney for ap~rnval a~n
agr~~ement ~roviding for common trASh ~toraqe area !or L•h• propoeed u~e ~and
sxi~+ting edjacent uees~ alter ~pproval, ea~id aq.reement ehall ba l11oa And
raor~xdod in the office c+f the Oranga County Racorder. (8ee Resolutior- Baok)
pn roll cnl]. the foregoi.nq rowolutian wxs ~Aeae~d by tt-~ follnwir-q voCe:
AYES s GUMMi5SIdN~ERE e ~~llred, Farar.o, ~auer, ilo~~bat, Kaywaod, R~w lnnd,
Seymour.
NOESs CQMMISSIONGRSi Nono.
AHSCNTt CQMMTSSI.ONFR°: No~te.
CONUYTIOtvAL USE - PUBLl'C tIEATt~NG. MAtNARO fl. BI~,L, 1445 South Loara Strant,
PERF72T N0. 139? Anaheim, Ca. 928U2, Awnerr xe~uea~i.nq permie~ion to EXPAND
AN EXT:iTTNG NONCONF~RMTNG AU'1'OMOBILE MATNTENANCE AN(~ R$-
PAxR FACXLITY FOR TNE PIIRYOSE OF MAINTAIN2NG AND REP7~IRZNG
MOTOR H06fES AND CAMP~RS WAI~IING (A) M:NIMUM REQUIRED FRONT SETBAC~ ]-NI) (B)
FizNIHUM REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING ~PACES on prop~rty described a8: A rectangu-
lar:ly-Bhaped pazcel of lancl conei9ting of appraximntely .2a +acres, having a
f.or~tage ot approxi.mately 6f? f.eet on kh~ weat eidn of tiaster S~reet, having a
maximum depth o±' arproximat~ly ?00 feet.. and being locaced apprAxim ately 190
feo* narth of ~~e centerline of Katelld Av9nue. Pxoper~y prasently claesified
M-l, LIrHT TNDUST RIAL~ ZpNE.
No one appo~reci in oppositi.on.
Althouqh tiio Report to the Commiaeion wae not read aC tha public tie aring~ it
ie reforred to and made a part nf the minutes.
Mr. Maynard Bill, the petitioner, appe~red before the Cpmmisaion an d stated
tha* he was the sa,le owner of the fecilit,y located at Harbor Eoulevard and
tC~.tella Avenuej that hs hac! been I:hero for the paet ten years, and his present
faaility wRS not adequate to take care ~f motor homes nn~ campsrs, and thie
forced him to repair t.hese vehiclea autside, which waA the xeason for the
re~uast for the building on the rear e~nd of the lot - sa that hd could elimi-
nato the posaibility of people thii~k~.ny thia wna a junk eh~p by placing tho
repair work indoora, and he would improve ~he appearance of tt~e areas that
e*aff fndicated he would be requirea to have 17 parking spacea, howevez, he
hAd 9 epaces in tne butlding with extra parking on the outs:tde, an d sinae he
did bueinees by appointment only, these vehiclea would nat be the r e all day,
partfcularly since the motor homea and campers would br~ owned by p Bop1e vieit-
in3 the ~+rea, and he would take these peopJ.e to Uisneyland and ~hey would pick
up theiz vehicle~ aft9r they were tiniahed vieiting BisneylandT th at he was
aware of the fact that the Commiasion did not approve of atacked p arki,ng, how-
ever, therP wou].d be 4 parkinq apacee on the east aide, and he would losa one
beaause he v-ould be ra,qttired to dedicats for etreet wideninq purposeo, however,
he had been r~tacking the~e and had r~quired that t}iaee cara bQ mo v ed wh~never
g c:uetomer wanted to leavet that reference mad- ~~^.~rding the tras h truck
ingreas and egrer~s ov~r the Exxan service at:,.~on t~ *he aouth, h e had made
every atitompt to contact tllem, however, n~ wa8 hdving difficult time contact-
ing thc progerty ownar in en atkempt to obtain hia coops.ation si n ca he resided
in Long Bc~acr., ho;~9ver, if the fi-coot maeonry wall ~oero conatructed, th~ traeh
cauld be pickecl u~ an hi.a eido of tho wa11.
Commissioner Gauer inquired what the patitioner planned for ths a r ea to the
rear of ths propoaed buildfnq~ wharaugon Mr. ~ill replied that th ie would be
the junk collection area whiah would be totall.y enaloaed, end ~ny o na who wanted
ta ~ee it would have to w~lk *_hrouqh the neN buildinq to ths rear aince it would
not be viaible fram the streot by ths sublic.
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MINUT~B, CZ'~Y pLANNING COMMIS9ION, A~~'!.1 30, 1973
CONDITIANAL U5E PERMtT N~~ 139a (~onti~uA4)
73-2~4
Cammisaionur Horb~~ not~ed t.hat ~he ~etitioner wae ~~•:opoaing only 20 leut ba-
~weon khs parking YtAI.~ and the mnnduvsriny azea For thes.a motor hame~, Mhiah
vro»ld Y~a insu!lini~nt ~inoe thir wae baraly enough tor an automok-13e, snd
meny a~ th~~e motar homs~ W9X'A 23 le~~t and caoro ir~ lanqth , which would be
S end morw ~eet over the aver~+qe lAnc~th of en automobile, thsrhby cu~+~ng o~~
thia on• parkinq aroa~ and aret+t~ny n shortsqe with ~n t~lr~ady defiai~nay ~.n
park~nq.
Mr. Aill replied that Ll~ere w~uld be ona lar~ae double doo r on the oouthsrly
~ldo which Noua.d be Adequnte for maneuverinq, and Lhay co ~1d back ~lonqside
'chA existing t+uilding in ordar to exi~~: ouC the dzive; that he had n mator
hom• Nhioh ha msnouvereEl eround in orctar to ~~e whether oac not there war
adaquate manouverinn apec~e mnd louns there aaa no pzolalem, and sinoe hs woul!!
hdVl1 to be moving thues v~ehicl~s from chs g~rage to the d.rive area, +thio
wnu18 be a problom he peraunally would havo to resolve araQ aould no~ be the
problem o! th9 owner o£ tho vehicle. D'urtherm~tb, ~here ade na additional 32
leot within the bui133ng itsel~ for maneuWering, but. hQ wuu1Q be repAiring
oempere an6 motor homes on~ti~t ~nd that htl would only be doing mechanival repaire
;nd would have no dump eta~tion nox body r~+paira At this new bui.lding.
Tha ComQieewon inquixed ae to the nua-be~c ox mot~x ho~-es thd~ would b9 on the
eite a~ ono time~ whereupon Mr. I3111 rcFlied rhak from past expari.enco he
would hnve four in the aroa, incluAing hie uwn, whi.ch w a s a 21-foot veh~.cle,
and thid would all be under a roof.
Commissioner Herbet then xequeatea ataff to anlculate th ~ lot covezage of tho
buildi.nge or. this pro~+osed development si.nce this waa a C-3 uge in the M-1
Zone, and the C-3 aite development etanclards roquired 66~ Eor parking area,
nnd parhapa the lot coveraye would be 80IDE~FI~.IlC) that aou 18. not be allawed by
zight in the C-3 Zone.
The Commisaion noted th~t th9 patitioner ;~ad indicated t hat customers wauld
be by appointment anly and inquired whath,:r he wuuld tak.e in aomeone who would
be drivin3 into the facilityt wt~ereupan M~~. Bi1Z etated if ha was unabl.e~ to
take care of them b9cause o~ previous coccn~ltmente, then he would refL~se to
repaix their equipment, since ha did not Y:ave time and pexsonnel to handla a17.
the tourist buaineas, and he only toak in what he could handle and recommen3ed
that they go elsewhere fur any repa!•ra.
Zoninq Supervis+or Charles Robarta advieed the Commisslo n that the coveraqe
with builciings on subjeat property was 32i.,
Mx. Dill, in xespons~ ta quea tioninq by Cou~miasioner A11red, noted that he
would have tliroe emp].oyees, ar.d that he Alftp had an agreement to oermit park-
ing on the ad~oining property on ±he east aide o~ the s traet.
'~Hk: KEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commiasion~r Hezbst nated that since the use requ~~sted ~vas a C-3 ue~e, and if
the pe~iti~nax had C-3 zor.ing on tihe property since he ]~ad ~nly 3'6 aoverage,
he wauld hav9 beea able to develop the addi~ion by righ t, however, becauee he
had M-1 ioni.ng on the proparty, thie wasa ati.lY raq,uesti ng a noncoaforminq us~
in the M-1 Zona.
Cummissioner Allred affered a motian, seaonded by Commiaeioner ~ end
MOTIOH C}~RRIE~U, ~hdt the Planninq Commie~aio;n, in connact3on with an exemption
declaration bitatus requeat, finCls and deter.minea th~t the propoeal would ha-ve
no aiqnificaz~t environmental impacti. and, t"nerefare, recommende to thr City
Counci7. thak no Environmental Imp~ct Statemant is nec~ senry.
Commiaeio:~er Herbet offered Reeolution No. .PC73-85 and movod far its paseac~e
end ~adoption to qrant Peti.tion for Conditional Uee Permit No. 1392, subject
to the akipulation thnt the petitioner would reac~ve tY~e ~raeh oasement agree-
meat and L+aeed on the faet that the ~xisting ~ekructure had been aet baak 37
P~eet lrom the property lir~e, kherefore, there Mould b e no purpoee in relocat-
l.ng the atructurs~ and tha-~ v+aiver o! the minimuc~ required parkinq aas baaed
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MINUT~S, l:Z'i'Y P1,ANNT.NG GOMM239ION, A~ril 3~, 1973
CONI:~ITIONAL US~ ~ERMIT NO,, 1392 (Cantinued)
7~-255
on the Pdct thak the C-3 Zare on wi~ich ~he uae wn~ ~ermi.tt4d by right roquir~d
ttiat a minimum oF 66-Z~ 3e of tlio pruporty be devoted C~ pnrking end acce~s,
and plane fur tho pruponod expanaian indic~-tad r.hat 68• o! the pr~perty would
be avuilabl9 for parking ncceea~ and ecib9eat ta co-iditic+ne, amendinq Conditi.on
No. 10, requlrtny thnt the p~xkiny spacea markad 4, 5, dnd 6 ehall k~~ re-
loaatod by reverei.nq the ba-ya in an Addit-aest fashi4n oz delc+ting ~pace No. 4,
thereby incraeai.ng the turn-a~cuud area and reAucl.nq back-out probl.~ma for th~
motor homes or ca~mperA. (Seo Reeolution Book)
On rol.l ca-12 the toreoinq resalution W~s paseod by the Eollowinq vute i
AYES s COMMI43IONEfcS: mllxec~, Gauer, HerJ.~eC, RoN].and, Seymour.
NOES: COMMISSIONF:riSs Ferana, Kaywood.
ABSF.NT: ~OMMI~SIONEAS: Nane.
VAR~ANCE N0. 249~ - pUBLIC HEARING. NEVILJ.E D. LYABX, 14i61 Weet Cerritoe
~ ~ A.venua, Aneltoim, Cu. 92902, Ownez~ requ~ieting WA7:VER OF
P~RMITTEU U3ES TO ALLOW A MOBILtiFiOME IN CONJUNCTTON WITH
AN E X7STTNG SINGLE-FAMiLX RLSTDFNC~ on property desczibed aes A r~ctannul.arly-
eha~ ed parcel o! lxnd coneiating ~f aPproximatc~ly .7 acze~ having a Prun~tage
of appz'oxtmAtely 114 feot on the narth side of l:erritoa pvenuer T1AVj.11CJ n maxi-
mvm depth of apprc~ximat~ly 302 feat, and k~Aing located apprax.imately 47b £eat
east of ~he centerline of Euc11~1 Stzeet. Property prc+sently cl.aeaified R~1,
ONE-P'AI~lILY RCSIDENTIAL, ~ONE.
No an~ appeared in opposi.tion.
Although thQ Raport to the Commissi~n was nut read at ~he publ3.c hearing, it
is ref~rrod to and made a part of the minu~e~.
Mr. Nevilla Li.bby, the uetitiuner, appeared before the Cammisaion and notPd
that he would like to assure the Planni.ng Commisaion `his was not a financf.al
ente rprise but was to nrovid~ a place for an aged fathez•, and he would abicle
by any pravisions r-~ce~ssary to obtatn approval~ that the need for the variance
came about hecauae his mottier had pasaed awap in 1971, and his parente had lxved
in Boetor~ a1L o£ their liv~s, therefore, he had brought hia Pather out and had
plrsced tii-n in a mobilehoma parkr that because he had dave3oped major hoalth
prob].ema - hQ~rt and eyz problems - the family wanted liim close to t~hem on the
adv icP of the doctors; that if tk~ere were any interested partlea alnng Cerritos
Avenue concezned about fi.hetr water. supply, since this was a privat.e water
supply, hQ raould ].ike to state thst he wou~d not hcok up thia m~bilehnme to
tlie ex3.sting water supply but would hook up to City of Annheim water and aP~verj
tha t the size of the mobflehome was not accarding to what sCa~f had indica~ed
ain ae they planned a amall 12x40-foot mobilehome if these were ~.vailablet and
tha~ he waa availablR ta ariswer any qu~etions the Commi.~sion miqht have.
Ch airman Seymour inquired wheth~r the petiti.onar had di~cussad the ~roposal
with the proQerty owner. to the west aince the mabil~ehom~ would be l~cated
on ly 6 feet from the we.,t property liner whereupon Mr. Lihby ~•tated ~hat he
ha.d chacked with them and they had nuti expressad any opposition.
Chairmt~n Seymoux thon inquirod whether the peti~3.oner would StSpulete to a
ti me limitation, and Commiasionar Kaywood inquired whsL•hnr kY~e perltioner
would stipulate to establishing the use for ths fattier onlyj whereupon Mr.
Libby s*ip~alnted to uae of the mobilehome for his aged father only and to
wh atever time limitatian the Commiesion might eatgblieh.
THE HEAR~NG h'AS CLO5ED.
Commissionax F'arano offered a mation, aecond~d by Commiasioner Kaywood er~d
MOTION CRFtRIED, thr.t the Ylanninq Commiesion, in connect.ion with an exemption
do claration stiatus requeat, findx And de~erm~neo that the propos.~l wouJ.d have
no aignificant environmental impact, atid, th~refore, recommenda to the City
Co~anci? that no Environmental Impact 5tatem~snt ie ne:.esaary.
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MINUT~:S, CITX PLANNING COMMI98ION, 1~pril °0, 1"73
VARIANC6 NO. 2495 (Cont.inued)
73-756
Commiesi.oner Ft-rano of.fered Rssolution No. PC73-'~6 ,~nd movod Yor iti paw~~gA
•~nd adoption to granL Pstition for Varianco No. ~`9:i for a k~eri~od o! tvro ~e~ra,
sub~ect to annual rovie~w, proviQsB that if th• ut• ~iha~l vAASa Aelore thak etma,
~ub~mat pe~i.tion would auto~nat~aally bo tormin~tedt ~nd mubjeut to oondit~iona.
Deputy City Attoruey Frank Lowry e~dvised the Commieqion that the var.ianao aould
not sutomatical~y he t~rminntAd KitAout e given time but would havo ~o bo tarmt-
natbd by reeolution, thezefore, a tl.mm li~itatiion mu~t be vArX apeoiti.c.
Commi~tai~ner 1*arano then amandad hia motion to read as lo1loM~z Commi.amioner
1*axano oPlered Regal.ution No. PC73-8G s»d mave~! tor its paemage t~nd adoption
to gra-nt Pe~ition ~ar Varianc~ Na. 2495 Poz a~ez'.od af fi.v~ yeera, subject to
annual xeviow, nubjnct to ].imiting the ucoa to th~ a-q~d ~ather only, nn~ ~ubjac*.
tio tarminaCion by res~lution i! the uae expire+~ pri.o.c to tY~~s ~ive-yra~r time
Yimita~~iAn and eub~eat to the ~,~etitiunez's etipulat~ion ~:o oonnacting the mol~ile~
home to all ~ppxopriate C:lt~ of Anah~im eervioea a-nd ut311ti.aet and svb~act to
conditinne. (Sec Re~olution ~3hok)
On roll call the goroaoing renolution was pa~aed by t:he fallowing v~te,:
11YE5: COMMISSIONE125: ;A11red, Farar~o, Gnuer, Herbat, Kaywaud, Ruw1An~,
9eymoux.
D10~Ss COMMZSSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONF.RS: None.
VARIANCE N0. 2496 - PUHLIC ItFARING. ATLANTZC RICf~~IELD CUMPANY, c~o Robert
~ Wa].~.car g~ewart, Jr., 1786 Waet Li:ncolsi Aver.ua, Anahefm,
Ca.. 92601, Awner~ GFNE RAL MAINTEAl~4NCE, INC., ~~~%2 Weatarn
a.venue, Stanton~ C~. 90680, Agent•) reque~9tfng WAtVER OF (A) Ml-X~DfT1M NUMBER OF
FRER-S'PA.NDING SIGN9. (8) MINIMUM DISTANCG ~ETWEEN FREFa~STANAi'NG SIGNS, ANU (C)
MINZMUM HEIC,H~' vF FREE-S'rANUING SIGNS '1'O ALLOW TWO PR]:CE SIGNS AN~ TWU SELF-
3E~tVICE SICN5 7N AAAi'PIO*I TO AN ~XISTTNG Fr;t.C-STANDING SIGN c~n property des~-
cr{bc~d as: P-n irregularly^~hap~d parceZ oi' ~arid Xacat.ed at th4 southwas~
~;c~rne.r of t~roadwny and Euc.~.ld Stre~':, hav_ny ~~proxiina.tE frontageg of 135 feet
ori thE~ soixth side af. Braadway and 135 foet nn r.3~e west s~icle af Euclid StrQOt.
Proper.tf prasently cl~ssified C-1, GENE R~.L COMMFRCIAL, 20NE.
LVa one AppRSY'9C1, in opp~~aition.
Althauc~h the Report to the Commiesion wa3 not read at the puu].ic heaz~ing, it
is referr.ed to ~rd made a par.t of the minutes.
Mz•. Ike Man1Ny, reprasenti.ng Gen~rsl Ma~ntenance, Inc , agec-t for the petitionex,
appeazed bafore thp ('omm~seion and noted they were requ~sating to install a
2~foot, 6-inch by 2-foot, 6-incli siqr- at thE ingr~ss of aach ieland, with the
L•up veing 6 feet. 10 inches from the bottomp an.d that there would bp ~~s priae
panel 3 by 2 feer, 6 inches on ~ach ~s~anci to identify each as a self-service
pump.
Commissioner Herbst inquire:~ why ~his aervicp t:tation nFeded a price ~ign on
the pump island sinae ths State requi.red each 1>um.~ t.o bp priced ifi a3dttion to
pricinq i~eing loca~ed on thQ large siyn~ whereu~on Mr. Manley replied tndt this
would bs to designnte the self-servi^_.e sign.
C~mmiseion.er Herbst note3 that the prics sf.qnn werg al.ready loqislatad to what
wae already located on the prop~rty~ wher~upon Mr. Ma~iley stated that thia
might have been a mieinterpretation of the Sta~~a xequiremant, and ttiby had dons
tht~ for tho Mobil Ai1 Company as well. Fur.thermore, this would apAear ta be
more of a directi.onal aiqn than anything el~e.
Cr~airman Seymour inquized whether this would k~e a t~tal 3elf-aervice etatioa~
whereupon Mz. MRnley replied affirmatively.
Commic+s:loner Farnno then inquired why the price sign ~aas necessary at th0 frc+nt
of each pump island if thia Waa completely ae1~~A~~rv~ce.
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MIt1UT~8, CxTY PI~l1t~1l~7NG COMMIS6Iq:i, ApZ'11 30, ~~373
VARI71NC8 N0. 2495 (Continudd)
73-~'i7
Chsirman S~ymaur: na~tad that t~e ha~l views6 sequRrts ~vhwrq onl.y ana portion o~
n re~rviae ~tr~tic~n wam propoied ~o; nsl!-dur.vi oa+ whix~e a~r~Qther pnxti~n w~a 4or
lull-~axviae, tta~is Aalf-~v.er.vic~ n:, ~rnr NouJ.d be neaasssr.y, howe~ver., h~ could
not •~• enX reamon !ar he.v~.ng fau: ~lAn~ edverC.ia~ing awl.~-~+~x:vir.~c.
Mr. Manl~y atdt~d h• aould not end~•rr Cha~xman 6~ymour`a quastion -nino• th~re
wes no Arco rap ~•~~antativ~e pxea~nt,
Cammiusioner Y.ay-wood .i~quirod why the pmtitioner wae requeetinq per.misaion ta
astabliet~ those cigne when ths~y wer•c alre~edy insteltA~~ on thH premioe~t where-
upon Mr. Manley atated that tha eiqn~ b~ing seqaeeted had not bc~an ~nnt.dllAd.
Con~mie~ioner Ka,ywood noL•ed that not only were ~h~ ~igna there as oE aar~,y thie
de-to, bu~ ~he eign~ stated "self-smrvu, rio premfum" .
Mr. Manley sl:eted that he hdd tnken picCuree of thie ser~ica atation juut two
or three houz~ ago and there wma no oiqning us theX proposed oi~ the praperty,
however, there cau].d be ~ di~.~eront type aP signing referrolf to by C~mn+is~ioner
Y.aywood, but Che roc~uost b~t'ore ~.he Cammineion ha~1 not benn erertQd thie dete -
thene would be on the ingrese aide of tho ieland.
Commiesionhr Ke~ywood i~quired whether these eiqns r~questod would bs i•a a~lAition
to the aig~~s whiah etated tho frae premi.um with a f.tll-up now on trin «L~'tion~
whereupon Mr. Manley stated he did not know.
TIi~ HEARING WAE CLOSED.
Commieaio-~er SAymour offered a motian tu yrant Ps~tition foa~ Variancd No. 2496,
eliminatimq L•he ad~]itional priae algns as requQe~ted, if, in fact, the t;~tal
s+tatian waa s41f-s~rviceJ in the e~vent it w+~a not totallX 3e1£-se~vice, thon
the resolutton would be to aQpro ve aubjoc~ petition as r~queated.
Mr. Maniay requeated clarif•lcation of tr~o ~notion~ whcreupon Chai.rman Seymaur
noted thut the approval would be ~a lirt~~~'t, in pnrt~ the requeste~d signiag,
eliminating the request £or the additi.anal ~rir.o ~igne on khe ielanda, nnd
the re~son t'or this was beca~se if the eerwice etAtion wua ~n total s,el.f-n~rva,
there would be no need for the ~+xice aiqn~ on tt-e islands t~ince, by ~.aw, ':he
prics signs w~u~d have to be posted on the fre9-etanding sign at ~he cosner.
On the ath~-r hand, if half o~ tha eta~i.on were self-eerve and thn other full-
service, then tre resolution would ba i.ntended to apprave the price sfgns u~
requestod.
Con-misaioner Herbst .inquired why the p~3titiorier needed each island marked ae
aelf-serve if this was a total ael:E-ae::vc~ ~tatian.
Chairma.ti Seymnur n~ted that this would bo for the same reason thP CiCy had
approved the Ch~vron insiqnia on all of their li.ghter boxee - this wou'id be
the same.
Gommiat;ionar Herbst ota*.ed that this w,~s entir.elg differ.ent. since the original
reasan f~r r9qu~sting ~el~-servicA 9ig;ns was to ateer the customor to the
island whexe ths.re would be aelf-serve faaili.~ies i.~ on~ so de~ired, Ar to the
full-service island for the oY.h~r cust~mera. This petitianer was now pz'opoeinq
self-serve ~igns an every island, and ainae this was a completely ael.f-~erve
station, this would be ~ further detarioration o.f the Sign Ordinance.
Zoninq Supervieor ~harles Ro}~erts noted thr~t one of the other oil cornpanies
hnd resolved the ~iqninq problem by placing the ful~ molf-sQrvp sign a~t the
cnrnez~ thereby eliminatiz~g ~signing on each pump island, and, af co~icinq~on
priae of tho qa~ollne was a1sU posted as we1.1, ratner than having g
the pump ielands in addition to khat requested by the State.
Commissioner 1Kaywand stated that the sign iden~ifyinq tha stetion as ~v~ll.
sel!-aerve, toqether with the priaes at the pole at the cor.~ner, would be maah
clee-r9r ~o the c:uatomer than c;lutt~ririg of aigning at each pua+p islnnd.
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MtNUTQS, CITY PLANNING COMMIB~ION, April ~0, 1973 73-258
V?1R.I1-[~CE NQ~249G (Continued)
Ch+~iru~an Seyc.aur etetaQ he wou).d ti~il], q: •lony vrith hin x.volution and hi~
r~a+oon Eox o,'terfnq it wn~ that rim b~liev~d in upholdinq ~h~ etatc~mante o!
th~ C~.ty Cou~icil a~~ter tbe joint meeting aith them.
CommiNSiane~r Herhet atateci that the u~• propoNe~Q ~or th~s eer.viau~ eetat~oii Nap
Nntir~~y ~91~:t~rmnt than thooe previau~ly aon~i~ar~d by the City Cuunail.
Comm~.s~i,oner Farano noted that when nna t;ik~G Ab~ut solt-~orvica isln-~de, r-t
the ~oin~ work eeaeion wit•h t.he ^ity Counoi:l it waa determined that solf-serve
eiqne w~re naceaaary to identify t.ha sol!-oexv~s 1elnnAs, but he did not think
it w~s n~c~~seary to plaae price eign~t ~• Nel~l aM idon~ityinq exah isl~nd aa a
e~lf-uervc~ ielund, and thie wag diacue~AA Mith tha City Council.
Chnizman ;3~,ymour nut~ed that hie~ r~polutioi~ nllminAtAd tho price siqne if tho
kta~tion vrere totally eelf~eerve.
on roll. ::all the foregoing motion loet by r- 4 t4 3 vata, Cammieaianers Allr.dcl,
raranor Nerbst, arid iCaywood vatlnq "no"r Commiosion~era Gauerr Rowiand, and
84a/fiOllX' voting "aye" .
~ommiasi.on~ox Allred offexerl a motian, eac.and~d hy Cammi~aeiunex Rowland nnd
MOTION CARRIED, that the Planning Commia~aion, in oonnaction with an ex9~aption
declareti~n etaxus request, tincle and detaxmines that the propoan7. would ha.ve
no elynificAnt onv~.~onmental impact, a~:~1, ~:heretore, recommenda to the City
Cuuncil thnt nu En~rironm~ntal Impact StaCmm~nt ie necea6ary.
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Comml.ssioner Allzed off.er.ed Resalution No. PC73-87 ~d moved .f.cr its paaeaqe
and ado~tion ta deny ~etiti.on Foz Vari.anco ~ta. 2a9C~ on the basis that the
~r~titionor hesd ~atipulated this would be a oompletely eelf-~~erve oexviae
etn~ion, consoque:ntly, there wae no r~eed to p~e-ca a"self-~ezve" aigi- with
pri.~e oigna on c~aah ~~urn~~ 9::landj and r.hat tne 91e-nnirig Commi~sion xecbqnized
thaY. the City Council had yra~~ted sF~lf-aerve and priae signs on appropriato
islanda at service station~ where both f.ull-eexve and self-aerve were avail-
able, howr_ver, the ~ubjec~ sPrvicQ stution wae complately aelf-serv~, and thie
xnct cou3~ be adaquately advertiae3 on the exieting pale aign at the aorner of
the+ propez~ty a~ong wikh the price eiyne. (5e~ Reeoluti.on E3ook)
Prior to z~o:ll call, ~vr~her disc~,nai.on wae held by ~he Commisaior~, ~ommiesionex
Furano notimq C.hnt he ui,~exatoad what Chalrm~n Seymuur referreci tti pertaininq
tu the ~rork ser~sion wit.h the Ciry Counoil, but his cwn underatan~i.ng w~a that
he did not. think this ~~i~tion fo . denial would be incor-siatent with what the
P~.anning Commisr~ion and City Ccax~cil @ecided tha~ evening~ that it wae pex£ectly
conaimtent wi~.h the .fact that .~~.ach self-aervic:e station ehould be iRentified
but not to havfa price eiqns ~t. the head of aach 3.slan(I.
Mr. Manley th~sn inc~uired whet'ier the folloWinq kou~si be the correct interpre-
tationc if it ~rare a parti .]. self-service staL•ior~, then the service starion
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would be allowPd ~o have a s~lf-serve xign at the ingress aide of the ~.alan8
es we11 as a prica aign. TT~.e price aiqn woiilil be to deeignate the two Siffer-
ent pric~s ot gas at the at ition - full-aerv~ a~id eelf--~er.ve".
Chairman 8eymour then statr;u that ~herg wae a motxcn on the floor, and aome of
the Commir~aiUners felti. different as to ~he interpr.ekakior~, however, Ca answer
the queekion would requirf: addiL•fanal explanac.ion prfor to th4 vote, therdPore.
the Comm~asion should vot~a on the motian.
G~mmisaioner Farano ~tated th~t this cou13 be tzue, but it would mako no aenso
to hsve a per~on do a nvmber of thi.nqs that were nut neaasee-ry, and inquired of
ataff whether hia under•itanc1ing og t.he Plaxnnincr Commiasicn•-City Council wark
sesaian was that a self-service i,-land could be identified~ thaL f± waa, to the
beet ofi his recollection, that ther~ Wpu1d nor ba indlvl.dual price aigns on
evory islan~ except by rasolution and gr+snting waivere, but by riqlit they
could hdvp one price aiqn out in Iront, therefare, th~.a quearion was whether
t1~18 Nae a c~mple~e deviation fr~m wha~t the Commisaion had ever constd~ered in
the ~aet, identlfyinq each islandj that he ~housht - ragardles~ ot hor~ the
I ata;tion was operated, a self-service anc] price siqn ~t ~Ihe hs~d of every
` island - hA dafinite].y feXt the pricer eign waa out af order, ~herefore, he
I woula 13ke to be correc~ed now if he h~ae wronq in his interprstation.
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MIl3UTEEi, CITX PI.ANNING COMMT9SSON, ;,~x'11 30, 1973
V)1R~7-N~:F: T10. :446 (Gc~nt~.nuetl~
73-259
Mz. Rot~ezCs at.ated thnt hie raaoll~ct~.on a.f the eituatio~n wa~ s~ Commiasiones
Faz~nn had M~At4~ -• that ~hr ^~xt-~~arvlc• siqn wlth the prilce~ •aqn b~low ~hst
~aign h+-~ baen pMrmittc+d in a~Rti.oi~r fi.hat ~raviQed both s~1T: an11 Pu].1.-~ervio•
laaili.~ci~s, and se~].f.-serve eiyns ~rexe permittad st t;h~~ ond a! Cte ael!-serv~e
ialand, hawever, the Ci.ty c:ounci~ hRd r^~. hsd a pzoposel bd~'ors tk~am aher~
thare ~,+c~uld be e- otntian wi~h Cu:~l a~el~~aexvice propo~ed, nor tt,m sel!-ssxwe
as well r~r~ the prir.0 ~i.gne~ b.~luw ek er~ch ~+ump iM2.and, thot~lar~, he would havd
no ide~~ vrha-C the City Council'e reaction might be it theX w~se t•.~ r.~c.iva~ thip
praporai.
Commiu~i.oner Fn.rena then nt,atei'i it waa hia undar~tanding thmt it: wou~.d be one
prl.ae eiyn out in the front on t:he~ freo-st.an:di.~i9' pple dnd ~elf-~~orv~ i.eer~titi-
cation on each i.el+~nd ~o aerved.
Ch~irma.n Saym~ar estated tha~L• that we-s na~. hir~ underetr-nding, bu~: th~ez'o ehould
be on+~ priaa aign ~anc! one ssl~^sozve ~lyn on the isl+~nd wae hia un~'~erotandinc~
of what the City Gouncil had agpr.ove~~ iri the past~ that a1t:~~ugY~ tho coriv~rua-
tiori r+ith tha City Counci~l wss qenerml in natux~+r Mr. Roberts s+~:Atcd that the
mann~= i.n which th~ City Cocnoil hae been ner.i.np an ~uor~icd ~tal:~ion nigna a•
n po:licy of nazional concor~~, and the City Counoll f'e:lt Chat th.`~,a was tho wrong
aoncv,p~ by the ~laniii.ng Comniss.i~n.
Con~mi.seionor Allrod observ~:d thxt nc~w the servi.ce ~~ationa we=e cominc~ in f~r
e,ddit:ion~xl niqr-inq, and i~. wo~.~ld have to etoQ eomawhero, and h~ 3i3 not leel a
eezvlce at~xcion ndeded more than one sign At L•ha fr~nt ~.ndicati.r,~q what they
had r~nd whdt the~l sold thc:ir qas for. In eddition, he dld not feel th~t th~
Pltenning iommisei.on shoul~i be ~s "rubber StA1d~" for ~.he Cicy Coianc~.l.
Chmir.man 5eyu~aur th~n stated that if the City C.ouncil had ahenged tha policy,
r~n he would have to play the games by thA rules, even ig the,y had changed
a rti] es .
•>mmis-stoner Herbst then sfaCed that rather than getting a chanq~e in policy,
.e wo;ild s~L,geat that t.here be a change to the oruinance.
~r,;,, ~oll call the foregoing x~solutic. was passed by the follow~ng ~~*e:
.^~: COMMI : lred, k'arano, Gauer, Nerbet, iCaywoad.
v.,j~;; zSSIONER1S~ RoW ~nd, Se~ymour.
aSEN~~ COMMISSIONERSs ~lone
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VpRIANC~ D10. 2497 - PUBLTC EARING. ]LOU'tS L. NEUMAN, 1111 Weat Lincoln lvenue,
Anah , CA. 92805, C~wnerf Yequesting WAIVER OF PERMITTED
US TO ALLOW EXPANSION OF A NONCONF'~RMING AUT~"~tBILE
REPRTR GARAG~ on pr rty described ass A rectangularly-ehaped F~arcel of land
cons~.stinq of ap ximatell .2 acrea, havinc~ a frontaqe oE ap;~~o:cimately 100
et ~ the ~h side of Lincoln hvanuQ, havinq a maxlmum depth of approxi-
mat fee*., an~ beinq located approximaL~:ly 160 fest w~st of the cent:er-
line of Weat Street. propox~Cy present ly c lasa i f ie d C- 2, G E N E R A I. C O M M E R C I A T,,
ZONE.
No one appoarAd in oppoeition.
Althouqh the Report to tho Gommission was not read at the publ~c hearinq, it
is referred t~ and made a part of the m~.nut~e.
tlr. Lauia Neuman~ ~he petiti.oner, appeare~ before the Commiasion and noted
thA~ he wag de~iroue of adding to ~he exi~ating buildingt that he was the awner
o~ th9 ~ezvice stacion next ~ooz but the lease expired next manth, at wl~ich
time ~hey would be chaaqing over. to Lxxont that if h~+ did n~t want to renew
the leees, he could place the addltion on the rear poxtion, however~ this
would mea~ demnlition of a portion of ~h9 buildingt an8 that he would prefcz
what he was pro~os+inq undex aubject petition.
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MIt~UTk1:i~ t:ITY PLANNING COMM~£~BION, Apr~l ~0, 1973 ~3"'2G0
VA, RIAN~`~ Np. ~497 (Cont.inuect)
Com-nie~ioner Kaywoad inquiroca whsther tho p~etition~r wou14 havP sutliaient x.oom
wit1~ thi• additi~n on the em~~ty lotr v+her~upan Mz. Nauman steted ha had room
now• h~oN~vex, i! ?-• did nat lta~~e th* ptation, he would not h+~ve su!lioi~nt raom~
ChaC 1:.h~ propoAad ad~iitton w~~uld anly ba Por a Nartp and oltics ~rea on one ~i.d•
o! th~~~ ~tro~t, end thi~ woul~i hi.de evm~ of 1:h• und~~irable appearanc• o! tha
rspaiv~ qdrage lrom ~he etree+t, howovor, ~harA wauld be no additionnl nol.se ba-
cauae thPra would be no aadi~tional equipment.
TH1! H'I:ARING WA8 CLOSED.
Cemmipoionex Hezbet ofP4red i~ motian, e~-c:onded by Commis~ioner Kaywood nnd
MOTiON CARRIED, thet the Pla~ininq Comnie~ic-n, in aonn~ction with ~n~~ouldp'have
d~ola~'ation etatue request, 1"lildl~ and detorml.nes that th• propoesl
nn o~gnificnnt envlror~meritdl impsar, and, theretote, ~ecommonda to tha City
Counr~il that no EnvironmAntn]. Impact Stetemeat i• n~casuary.
Comm~.seioner Seymov.r ~Pfaxed Resolutio~i No. PC73-88 and mova~t 3'or ite pssenye
and mdaptioh to gr~+nt Pet'tion !or Varianae No. 2497, subjeat to coxsditione.
(Sde Reaolution Boolc~
On r~~ll om11 the foreqoing reaolution wae peesad by the followinq vote:
AYEB: COMMISSIONERS: Allre~9, Prsr.ano, Gauer, Herbet, Kaywaod, Rowla~nd,
Seymour..
NOE3s COMMISSIONERS: None.
A$SE~!1Ts CnMMISSI0NER3 r Nono.
VARIAt~CE NO. 2~A98 - PUBLIC HEAR~:NG. DAVID R. DOERING, 12^~ West Linc~ln Ave:nue,
~ Anahe~.;n, Ca.. 92805, Uwnert rec~ue~tinq WAx'VER OF PE~tMITTED
USES TU AI,LUW A DANCE HALL IN CONJUNCTTJN WITH AN EXISTING
ON^SALE LIQUOR ESTABI.ISHMENT on property deac:ibed a~-s A rectanyulerly-ahap~d
parcal af land consieting of appxoximately .2 acrea, having a frontage of
apprcximataly 7S feet on the north gidg af Lincoln Avenue, k~avi.ng a maximum
depth of approximately 1Q5 feet, z.nd bei.ng located approximately 5S feet west
of the centerlina oE C+~rlet~n Str~~aet. Property pxaeently claseified C••2,
GENERAL CONiMERCIAL, ZONE.
No one appeared in opposition.
Although the Report to the Commissian was not read dt the ~ub13c hearing, it
is referred to atid made a part of the minuxes.
Mr. bavid Doeri.ng, tihe petition~:r, appeared be~~xe the Cammieaion and noted
that he was only proposir~g to have da-ncing in the cocktail lounge for ths next
year and a half becauae he planned on taking over the restaurant adjacent to
the cocktail lounge, at which t3me he p~.anned to open ~ dinner-dar.ce f~cilityt
that he had already ss~ant $60,000 in rc~novat.inq this operationt nnd that one
could not consider this cocktail lounc7e a"dive".
Chairman Seymoux noted that when thc~ petltioner previou~ly a~~peare3 before the
planni.ng Commi~eion for the aocktail luunqe, ~he Planning Commis~ion ha~ denied
t:ie req ueat and the City Council had concurred, h~w~ver, there wex9 a number of
people alio reeided on Diamond Stre~et who had appeared ln oppoaitiont whex•eukon
Mr. Doc:ring atated that after the public heazinq before the City Councll he had
diecusa ed thi.s proposal with the adjoinic~q property owr~ers, and aftex c.hat ~hey
had wi.t.hdrawn thsir oppoaition, and upon re-hearinq of the petition beE~~ro the
~ity Cc~unail, the City Cauncil ~ranted the~ cacktail lounge.
C~mmlef,ioner Kdywoed inquired wheth6r tho ~etitioner woul8 e~ill be aervinq
tood wY~en the reetKUrant lease was .terminat~d~ khursup~n Mr. Do~ri~nq atated
that tt~oy would be e~erving meals aince tho~ would be needinq the ex;.ating sign-
ing on tt3e raetausant, nnd that he plgnned t~o ca~aplately remodel ths re~taurant
at that time.
CoamisAioner Allrmd n~ted that the Planninq Commi~~ion in the pa~st had required
thmt there be a phyaicnl separ~-tian betw~,en a cocktaiZ lounqe and ~ restaurdnt
with a eopaxate entranaa to each one~ whareupan Mr. Doering ststea that ther~
pree~en~ly Waa a separatQ er-trance and ovesntually thare would be a door be~wean
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MINUTL~B, CI'~Y PLANNItVG COMMISSION, Apri1 30, 1973 73-26].
VARIANCF. N0. 2A98 (Conkinuod)
th~+ reetaurant en3 the coakta~i~. lounge~ that rhio r~qu~at for danaing went
bef.oxe the Ciky Council, t~~wever, it could not ba appzdved by that boclyr be~-
cr~uae the City Attarns~+ ruled thet d condi~iona-1 u~~ p~rmit would b~ raqu~.redi
and that the Police Aepartmant had ir~dicaked they had no oppo~ition ko ~h~
propo4ed dancing. P'urtharmore~ they propoaed to have the playinq of tolk
muaic, how~ver, dancinc~ wes ueually dona to ~ukebox mu~ic.
Commiea~oner Kaywoad inquirod whother tha edjeininy property ownara were aware
ot the faat that tha peti.tioner wes xaquasti.ng ~he establishment o! enterteln-
ment or ciancing in tha oocktdil lounqe~ whoreupot~ Mr. Doeriny ~t+~t0~1 that the
propsrty had bean po~ted 4'or ovec n weak for the proposad rrqueat.
THL~ HF.ARING WAS CLOSED.
Commiesionez A11red offered n motion, eecor~dsd by Con~m';•sio~er Farano and
MOTION CARRIED, thet thE~ Plunning Commiesion, in aonnection with an examptio~
daclarntion stat-~s request, fia~ds and (leterminee tMati the propoenl would have
no sig~ificant enviro~i~nental impart, and, therafoxe. recammends to Che City
Council cnat no Envi.ronmenh.al Impact 5tatem~nt ie neceseary.
Commieeioner Farano offored Resolution No. 2C73~89 and mQVed P~r i.:s paeasqa
end adoption ta qr:~nL• PetiYion £or Variance No. 2498, eu:+jeat ~o con$itians.
(See Reaolution Ho~>k)
On ro11 oall the ~orcgoinq reaolution wat~ pasa~ad by the Poll~winq vote:
AYES s COMDlISSIONERS: 411r.e,d, Faranc+, Herbet, Kaywood, Rowl~-nd, Seymour.
NOES : COMMS33IONERS: t~auer.
ADSENT: CUMMISSTONERS: Nor.a.
REPORTS AND - I'~'EM NU~ 1
RECOMMENDATIONS PROBLEM l~F REF''lSE COLLECTION FROM CLUSTER HOUSII3G
D~VELUPMENTS.
Sanitation Superintondent 8111 Lewis appeared be£ore the Commiaeion and adviaed
the Commission that they haS found that any apacial aervice charge as ~racticed
in oth~r adjoininq communites wae rather mismanageeblr:, causing unwanted prob-
~ems, an~i he did not feel thlg would be an acceptable alternativo~ Y.hat the
oriqinal .report submitted and alternativeo were p~.~esentecY for Commi.saion con-
~iderat~.on ar~d clem~nstrations ~+ere qiven at the stadlum Eor 3lacus~.ion purposee
~or any peraona involvedr that they had held aevaral work seaeions with the
Planninq CAmmisaion regarding thia p~oblemt ancl that he felt ':he Sanitation
Division probleN was very straiqht forwar~3 in resulte,and the conclusions of
their regor.t i~tatad the only procedt~.re to follow.
Chairman Seymour tlion no~ed that khe Commiaeion was back to many m~nths ago
when the Engineering Division had recommended the etandard atreet width.
Mr. Lew.is atated that this was c4rreat, and at the laHt w~rk seesion i~~ was
recommended that privata streets c~hould 'nave etandard street aections with ~the
water mains or ather utilities in the atrQet, and with thoae additlona the
recamme*~datione as originelly aubmi~ted would stand.
Commiseioner Gauer noted ~ha+t the property owner wou~d have to pay for atreets
c~r trash pickup one way or the oth~r - the narrow streete would mean m~re
clugter housinq and heavier densityi that trash had to be taken out, and the
easy w+sY would be advantageous to tho City, r~nd perhaps the City would have to
require providinq wider PtreeL•8, but people ~vould have to take the~r ~raeh out~
and with ama2les lote, this~ would mean more L•rash, therefore, it would be hie
opinion that wider etreets would be in order to take care of the trash trucka
which would hava to use them, permittinq them tu ga down the street and tuxn
around rnthar than backinc~ out.
Cheirman 3eymour nate~~ ~hat tte° truaks could not turn arounu with the present
etandard c~il-de-sace but mu~t baak up.
Mr. Lewis replAed there would be r~om to back up, end if thera v-~za no curb
psrkina, thase trucka could then turn around.
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~tiNt1TES, CITY P1,ANIJING COMMI88i0N, Apri]. 30, 197:~ 73-26Z
ITEM N0. 1 (Cuntinued)
Com:niueioner. Rovrl+and ab~arvad th+~~ thi~ would k~e valueloes bscxu~e it wa-s not
operationult ~hati he had askod Mr. Loai~ at aach mesting what the comp+~xi~on
o! ooet wue - h• kn~~t the ooet af pickinq up tra~h ln avory clty in the warld -
but he waa more iat~reotsd in thp toCal oommitment of lnnd Poz~ a~ingl• purpose
with the en~uing ~xtension, every ~ime on~ add~d to the dedicatian o! public
right-ot~wa~y, oast~ w~re eloo add~a to ul~atzical, weter, qs~ and •~wer linee,
reduc~.nq the denaity by devotiny +s gr~ater peroe~ntago o~ op+uoe to omsrqsncy e-nd
temporsl service, although Commiaaioa~r C~auez did not ayree with himt ~=hat it
Nae imnortant h.hat th9 City ~t ~.nahaim ~~rv~e alements at ite populatian da out-
li.nad in the General Plan~ that the n-mber of streete thai: were r~quired ta bo I
atsndard atreet ~ection would efPeatively eliminnte cluster hauninq, +~nd by eo
doinq, on~e would be eliminating the paxc~nti+-ge o! appor+~unity to sxecut~ op~n
epace~ khat one wae ~Pfac:tively aliminatinr~ an element of the coennan~.ty ~rom
purchasing homee, such ess young lamiliee, baanuse thie wo~i].d mban ~ subdivi~ion
o! v35,000 •~.o S45,OG0 homes, dnd the Ganernl Plun sat fosth t~tat housing ahould
be p*-ovided !or all the population. Y'urtharmoro, he would be appoded to any
Eurther encroachment of public apace for the City until hd knew what the caet
di.fferentie.l was as he had aeked for this inP~rmati~n - what was the overall
coat to the coram+~nity by devotinq thia land to a non-tnxabls baeet that thie
would meeti taking a et9p bdckwe+rd in land plnnninq~ and tha~ in work re~raions
the Com~iaeion hed beon xdvised ther~ would be largmr txash trucke theri pzeeently
exietAd.
CQmmiesioner CAUe~r rei+:eratod thes fnct that the homeowneze would hava to pay for
traBh collection orte way or tt~e o~k~ar, reyardlea~s of th~j manner ici which trash
wae collected, whether cluster housinq or not,
Commiseioner Rowlasn8 e~tatad .it would ma-ke e di.fferenco in tho tax base.
c;ommisaiorier Gauer nated t}.at the rates coul~ be i,ncreased any time the trash
collection contractor requeat~d it
Commissioner Allxecl inqui,r~ed why Coanmiesioner Rowland f.elt that by adding more
space for turn-around area Por theae trash vehicles that it wou19 atop c].uster
housing development.
Commiseionpr Rowland ststed t`.hat when a~.l street sectiona were stendard and
etandard turn-arounda wera required, ther.e no longer. would be any advdntage
except for density that could be achieved~ that basically, clustec huuaiag as a
planned unit development aoncspt would be seriously impaired by stnndard etxeet
sections, standerd curbs and qurtexe, hawever, the rnly thing he would aqree to
were concerns Qxpressed about gu:~lic utilities in the streets, but the atreets
ahould be dedtcated to the City ag an exsemenf: fur theae facilitiea.
Commissioner Alired inquired ae t~ the type of facilities the City of irvine
had~ whereupon Mr. Lewis stated thee~e were L-ownhouses with private streets.
Comr,~iastoner Rowland observed th~t ttee garaqes in these townhous3s wore also nut
located at tha front of the lots.
Commiasioner Farano stated that when th~ Planninq Commission had their. wark
sassiona with the contractors, t~~e contractora had ma~ic~ it known L•here would be
larger equipmant in about five yQars and inqul.red whether there +~ns ~ny din
agreement that the contractors were qoing ~o ldrger equipment.
Mr. Lewis stated that he did not get thoee vibrati~na from the commente madej
that they pr~raently had three actual trucks at maximum length, and the Divieion
o! Highwayg of the 3tata of Californfa would give a elight axle increeae, but
as t~~ tru~k aiza beir.g lonqer, that was rot h:~.a understtnding of the s~tatement
mac~.e Ly the aantra-ctor.
CommissionP~ Rowlnnd no~ed that R~tul Rangal of ;lay~cox at~nted at tihe wark eeosion
that these trash trucks would be larqer.
Commiasion~r Ferar.o noted that if the City e~pproved wider atreet sect•ione end
turn-aroun~ nr~ae anci later the aontractoxe used l~rger truoke, tYiie would
negate the wider atreeti aec~ions and the eame probl~~m wauld be fa~cing thA City.
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MINUTES, CITY PLANNJNG C~MI~lI98IC~N, April 30, 1973 73~-_5.3
ITEM N~. 1 (Continued)
Mr, Lewie notecl that the ~+~nitaticn A:lvioion wae in tI» sema poaition as the
9txeet Daeiqn Divioion in •~hat i! th~ City Engineer~ ha8 known that the prasent
etireet atandards would hav~n th1~ ty~o c+f tiraPkir, and type and qunntity ot traeh~
~same pxovioione would hava )~een made ee-r13er. I
Comroi,~eioner Fare~no atated ha would lika tc. learn fr~m tho exp~rie~noa tho City
ha~d in "~+r paet, aud aould ono aolve thie by provi.din5~ s atanderd etr~et Ac~ction.
Mr. Lewie repli~~d that ~c+r the toreeeQable ~utuze the type oF atandarda pre-
•ented to the Cummiaso~on wsre needed einc~ theza wne the poaeibility that Che
kruok eize cou~.d go Co 9 Peet, Qr 108 inchee, wheraan the l.imit wes proeently
9 lcet, ar y6 inchear tha~ tha lenqth o! the veh~r.le, toqether with the langth
and roadwr-y tieul.e~, could p~~eaibly mean converting to larger trucke it allowed
by the State, but: at the present tiu~e the ai~ee wr~o 1imi.~ed by Che operational
probleme that were within ~the City.
Gomminaioner F'arr~no ~:ateA that whet CommiQeion~ar Rowland wae tzying to aug~est
wae that the~e was a nned ~o sp~nd mc~re moneX on tachnoloq} f.or altc~rnatiWe
meL•hoda or thore would be anly biqqex~ and ae~t~ir trucke w~.th th lifting o; tha
traah, but l:h~are ahuul3 be a better e~yetem to take care of. ~ositi.on o!
traRh, altho~ig!~ he diA not know how• but ti2i9res had been no che+nge in qarbags
truck coli~ctian qoing down etr.eets ;~A thuy did today ~han as a chilc~ when hu
11~~ed ~.n Cl~ica.go, 21~`.iic,ie.
Commledioner Rowland atatod there had been a changa avsn thougl~ the skatem~nt
waa m~de thu~: thez~e would b~~ no chanyes in t:he foreaeeabl~ ruture - one ch~+nye
could be observed in the C11:y of San, D~eqo, somet.hing which changed the entird
concept of I:rash accumulatic+n b~caua~e thai~: plan ~ takeA rubbish and conv~rta
it into fuel oi7. or ~+ner.gy a.t coat r~ow, ar-~ within r.en ye~ra it wou]d ehow a
slight prof.it, ~ut the impor.tant th:ing wat~ their trAgh dispoe~al w~s an dntirely
differen~ saethod of approach, not t'he way Loa Ang~].ee proposed, which wae to
ship it to the deeert for. d:lgposal oP sol.idx and 6~~wer. wae~es wZ~.erA it ap~+narc~d
there wou'~d be mo~e roam, br~: san Dieq~ ~aas ~aced with the aam~ problem and
they rbose ta go the othor ruute ar~d mad,c an ii.vastmer-t for ~h~e future because
tho citie:s did not have Lo tAke thr tra.~h distancss to a iiisposa]. eiL•e - when
theae ai~.es were filled, it would mea~n moving farther out into the country,
making t'ne trips more expensive and lengthy nnd the prohl.em wauld become in-
creasingly dif£icult, doing tlie samr~ thing over tsnd ov~z' agai.n when thAre were
other methuds - maybe it would mean a large caeh autlay, but the Cit}~ wxs alao
asking t.he man who could not complrsin about haviriq Co give a larqe c~eah autluy
b~ reqc~.ring lazger ~treet atandazds, which, in the lonq run, Were paid for by
the purchaser of *.he home bocaase he did not knoa abaut the subdivisions which
were being desiyned and the rec,tuirementa thereof - he was talking about clevel-
opments in which the City would' x,e askinq far an increase in the servic~ areaa -
asking them to pay for an increa~ae in oxtdnded s~srvioes. He had aeked what
kind of nn investment would thi.s be a;ld what was the coet compariean but ha~d
nevex~ received an ar.awer.
Commissioner Farano notsd that Crash was bRing pi.cked up in the same manner f.or
the past seventy years, and ae long as it wae made easier an6 possible Lo use
the same conveyances, thp trr~eh~ c:ullector would never make any change.
Commiasioner Gauer noted that tie h<ad aeen in£ormation that a pneun-aric t~~be
could gick up the trash at tUe h~uset whoreupon Commissioner Farano stA~ed that
methad mentioned by Commisaioner Gauer was too "far out", but Com~ismioner
Rowland had menCioned a method whach the City of San Diego was using, s~.nce
they felt gventually the canyon~a would be filled and some other method wou~d
have to be arrivAd at. San Frar~ci.~+vo formerly took their trash to the d~sert
and canyons but they wera now taking their trash out to aea, ancl thmt 3 to 5
tons of trash produced many barrels of water which could be used far runn~tng
the electrical ayatem.
Commieaioner Iierbat noted tha+. considesable 4tudy had been mada on tne compac-
tion o~ traah.
Commi.esioner Farano notad that ha:Lf the cost of procea~inq trash would be
eliminated if the trucke did not Inave to travel 3S miles round trip or to yc
any diatance.
Corimissioner tierbat noted thr-t since Anabeim had thei.r own electrical •ystaw,
this tra~h could be convert~eS into electrical energyt that the country wae
r~inninq ou~. of eaergy sourcns enc~ ~r~uld have to book for othe sources, and
t~se cominq t4~inq could be traah ainca tlne country was thrc~winy out tona of
traBh every days and that the City of Anahefm hnd so many of theit oan th~nqs,
trash disposal could be anothez item to caneider.
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MTVUT~S, GITY PLANNING COMMI53InH, 11pzi1 3(~ 1975
2TSM N0. 1 (Continued)
7:l-264
Commieeioner RawlAnd atated that Mr.. Y.ewie h+~d done s supezb jok+ And he-d cum•
ta the aoncluaion he had bec.auso o! tho circumstnnoss anct ~:oola with which he
hsd to wurk, but more taole aere naedMQ and Farther down !he li.ne, bu~ Co
uommit th~.s land just tu sol.ve th• ~r4sh ~iiok-u~ probla~ms would h~e ~ we~ot~.
Mr. Leo~riA ndvieed tha Corea~ioeion that the aro,r~ge Cc+~nty Roed Dspartmont ha~i
dirpo~al pick-up oreae whera the txer•h col].ootor drov~ tu empty hie truok4 iri
the dia~.~aal b~xoe, there£ore, there opurAtor.b did not ha-vo to dr.i.v~ meny mit~~
to ~ d'..epoeal aitet thdt wher~ver trarh hnd *.o be tranepo xtod, it wee uM~~ally
for ~iame disL~nce, end the City'^ contraotore muet ga to ea~oh homo for piok-up
w1Ct~ Choir trucks - thie l~aa been thh eame method of trash p1.ek-u~ for ~aMny ,~
, •:-si that there 'rsad bean eome lmprovement, euch +~o convert4n~g to tuel en~rgy,
but thia wa,a at tha expenae of Fe~laral Gov~rnmont dollers , however, he wap AlfO
n~k trying to otop p.roc~raaa or cc•.,;~truation in the city by ohanginc~ the rAdiu^
of :~ curb ~eturn from 27 to 3~ teet air~ce this wna a requ.irement of tY~e R-1
Zan~~ but ha Nentad it to ba c:onsideree .".or alust~r. houeiag.
Commiseiuner Rowlnr~d noted that whanever dny municioAlit•y acquired a pieae of
praperty there was no way the ~ci.ty wou) d be improved.
Commieoiannr ~auas obawrved t;iat the moving vena that wo ild bo movinq people
into Qi~~ o~it of these homes were lnrger.
Commiasioner Farano ugroed that the moving vane were increaeing in eize, but eo
wera tl~e f~res truck& .
Cheirman Sayr~our noted that the Fire Departme~-t had etn.t~ed thax a 27-faot radiua
zeturn was adequat~ for their equipment.
Commiasinnei Kaywood stateA that the ~tzeet was nnt the only problem for trash
collaction vehic] ea - it w~e because of the lac:k oP parking area - since the
City C~uncil had determined that garage aotbacka could b a 6 to 10 feet, thc+re
was little space f.or off-otreet parking, as wrell ae on~strreet plrking, pa-rticu-
larly wliora c~il-de-sac streota were lo~ated, and trash ~. ~ek-up wae diff ~ cult
uncier the best circumstancea, auch se n.: on-r~treet pnrking, therefc+re, ahe f~lt
that etandard streat sectione 4hould be ccns~dered and cul-de-saca as euggeated
by Mr. Lewis for not only trash pick-up tnaneuverahility ~ut t~ provide for ade-
quate atreet parking fox those atreet9 wheie no off-atre+st parking was availabla;
that L•here was no etroet aweeping dona becauae of ell th ie on-s~rAet parking
w~ich occurrod and becauso m~ving vans, water trucks, de Yiver.y truck~, e*.c.
would be using those s~•~~eta - even th~ugh ahe wauld li.k e to see qarbaye con-
v~xtad to something .suble - but until that time the standard atreet section
ehould be requirer,
Commieaianer Ro,~land offered a motion to table tha atudy on refu~te collection
for cluster hoi. sinq cleve].opment until such time as the Commiasion had been pro-
vided with infcr.,:ation that wouYd allow their body to d.=termir.e the difference
in coat and benrfit of aseiqni.ng land to streeL- sections pgninat alteznatives
for traeh disposal. Commisei~~aer. Seyraour seconded the raotion.
On roll call thE fur.egoing mo~ion passecl by the following vnte a
AYESs COMMISSIONERS: Farano, Kerbst, Rowland, Seymo ux.
NOES: COMMlS5I0*IERS: Allred, Gauer, Kaywood.
AbSEt~T: COMMISSIONER3: Nona.
AUJOURNMENT -'Phere being no further buainess to discusa, Commis&ioner
~ Rowland offered a mo~ion to ad7ourn ths mestinq.
Commiasianer Seymour secon3ed the motion. MOTION CARRIED.
The meeting adjournrsd at 4025 p.m.
ReapectFully submitted,
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ANN KREBS, Se~ etaxy
Anahei~n City Planning Comm1 •sion
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