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Anaheim, Callfornia
March 18, 1974
REt~JT~AR N~ETING OF THE ANAH~IM CITY PLANt~ING COMMISSION
REGUZI~R - A r~gulr~r ~nee~tinq of ~he A~ahe.irn Ciky Planning Commi,~ei.on wae
MEETING caZ].ed to order by Ghairman 3rtu~r at 2:00 p.m., a quozum being
~roaent.
PRESENT - CHAIRMAN~ G~.uer.
^ COMMI3SSON~~tSt Compt.an, F~rano, Herbst, Johne~n, King, Marlay~
P,BSENT - COMMTSSIONERS: Nane.
ALSO PRFSF.NT - Aasiotant Devc~lapm~nt S~r.v.iaes Directors RonalA ~nc~~mpEOn
peputy City Attorney: Frank La~,-ry
Chfef Builcltng Inspector: Dan Van llarpe
Off.ice Engineer: Jay Titus
Traf°ic Engineer: Ec~ward Gra~nzaw
Zon3riq Supervieor: Charles Roberts
Assista~nt Zoning Su~.ervisor: Phillip Schwartze
Commission Secretary: Patricia Saanlr~n
L~LEAGE 4F - Commissioner Morley led in the Pledge of Allegianae to the
ALZEGIANCE F~~g of the United States of America.
APP1tOVAI. OF - Commisaionar Herbat noted ir~ connectian with the Mafich 4, ].974,
THE MIVUTES Planning Commission mi.nutes, that page 74-124, paraqraph 4,
should zead that "Commisaianer Herbst vated 'nA "'.
Commissioner King offered a motion, seconded by ~:ommissioner
H~rbst and M4TION CARRI~D, to approve the minutes of the meet~
ing of February 20, 1974, as submittad, a~tl that tha m~.nutas
of the meetin,q of March 4, 197'~4, be approved as corz~ected.
ENVIRUNMENTAL ~MPACT - CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING. ANAHEIM HrL~LS, INC. AND
FcEPORT N0. Z11 TEXACO VENTTJF2ES, ZNC., c/a H~rst J. Schor, 380 Anaheim
HilYs Road, Anaheim, Ca. 92807, Owner. Property dea-
ItECLASSZFICATION cribed as: An irregularly-~ahaped parc~l of land con-
NO. 7~-74-28 sisting of approximately 24 aarea, having frontages of
a~proximately 830 feet on the eaat side of Hidden Canyon
V~#RIANCE NO. 2566 Road and approximately 2630 fee;: on the north side of
~ Avenida de Santiago~ having a maximum depth of appro~i-
T~NTATIVE MAP AF inately 403 feet and being located appraxirnately 500 feet
TRAC7C N0. 8520 southeasterly uf the intarsection of Sprrano Avenue and
Hidden Canyon Road. Praperty presently cla3~ified
COUN~PY A1, GENERAL AGRICULTURAL, ~ISTRICT.
REQUEST~D CLASSIF~CATION': R-H-22,Ob0, SINGL~-FAMILY (ONE-EI1~LF AGRE) ZONE.
REQt7~STED VARIANCE: WASVE REQUIREMENT OF SINGLE-FAM]:LY LO'~S FRONTTNG ON
AN ARTERIAL HIGHWAY.
PENTATIVE TRACT REQUESTs 21 R-H-22,000 ZONED LOTS.
Subject pe~.itiona were continued from th~ m~etinc~s of December 10, 1973, and
January 7, 1974, at the request of the petitioner to submit revised plans.
Aas~stant Zoning Superviaor Phillip Schwartze noted for the Commisaion that
the petitioner was requesti.ng a further contin~aanae to the meeting of April 29,
1974.
Commissioner King affered A moti~n, seeonded by Commissioner Johnson and MOTION
CARRIED, that the public hearing and consideration nf Environmenta~. Impact
Repart Na. 111, Reclassification No. 73-74-28, Variance I3o. 256b and Tentative
Map of Traat No. 85~0 be continued to i~he meeting of April 29, 197~, a~ re~
qu~eEted by the petitior. ~r.
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MINU'l~ES, CITY PL~INNING GOMMISSTON, Niarch 18, 1974 7d-147
AREA DEVF.LOPMENT - CANTINUEU PUBLIC HEARING. INITIATED BX TIiE ANAH~IM CI:'Y
PL1W NO. 114 PLANNING CUNiMI83xQN, 204 ~;ast Lincoln Avenue, An~heim, Ca.
i 928051 to conaidex vehicular ci,rculation and nccoss Por
epproximately 50 ecree genorally bounded by th• rtortherly
Qxteneion of Grove Stre~t to the west= Miral.~ma Avenue ta ~he z~ar~ht Tuetin
Avenue to the northyaet~ ~he Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe Ra~ilxoed on the south-
eaett ~nd La Pnlma Avenue to the eouth.
8ub~ecti Araa Devel.opmont ~~lan was continued from the meeting of February 20,
1974, for further input f.rom the affacted ~raperty ownnre, and subeequently
cantinued Erom tha meeti.ng of March 4, Z974, in orc~er for S*aff to obt,ain
additional tnformatiAn regarding the legal ~tatu8 af. ~ort~.ons ot prop4rty i.n
the area affected by the Plaii.
Assistar-t :;oniny Supervi~~r Phillip Scliwartze noted frr the Cammiseion that
3tuff wi-a r~~~uesting ar. adclitional two-weeDc continus~nce.
Commiasioner King~ offered a motion, ~econded Uy Commi.e~sioner. Jahnson an~ MOTION
CARRIED, t.~ .further continue the pub],ic hear.ing and cansideration o~ Area
De~velopmer~t P~an No. 114 to the meetirig of April 1, 1974, as raqueated by
Staff.
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPAC'r - Rec~uest for cons~doration as reguired in conneatinn
REPORT NO. 119 ~v' :.~, appr.aval of an ex~enaion of time an TQntative
~z~ct Map No. 7417. Praperty located noxth of the
fsture extensinn of I+a Palma Avenne and south of
Esperanza rcoad approximatel.y 1-2/3 miles c~ast of. Imperial HighwaX.
Consideration of Environment~31 Impact Report No. 119 was postponed frcm the
meeting ~f March 4, 197h, at the r•equest of ~he applicant.
Assis~ant Zoning Supervisor Phillip 5chwartze not~d for the Commi.ssion that
the Environmental Ii~,~~act Fteport Review Committee reviewed the draPt EIR No.
119 at its meeting on March 5, 1974, anc~ determine~ that said EYR was in-
adequate as an informa~ive document and would require extensive review before
it couid ;ae approved and, therefore, the app:li.cant was requesting a further
postponement to the meeting ~f Apr.il 1S, 1974,
Commissioner King offe,.ed a motion, seconded by Comml.ss~.one~ Johnspn and
N1pTI0N CARRIED, that consideration of Environmental Impact Report No. 17.9
be further pastponed to the meeting of Ap.ril 1S, 1974, as requ~sted by the
applicant.
RECLASSIFICATION
NO. 73-74-41
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING. JAYZELLE V, RINKER, 2121 Alga
Road, Carlsbafl, Ca. 92008, Owner; MORRTS td. GREGORY,
747 Coastview Drive, Laguna, Ca. 92651, ~gent; requesting
that property descriY;ed as: A rectangularly-shr~p~d parcel
of land c~nsisting of approximately 1.5 acres located on the n~rtheast cornQr
nf~Orangethor~p Avanue and Post Lane, having ~ fron~age of approximr~tely 384
feet on the north side of Orangeth~r~e Avenue and havinq a fro~~tage of approxi-
mately 174 feet on the east side of Pos~t Lane be reclassified from the R-A,
AGRICULTURAZ, ZONE to the C-1, GENERAL COI~IIrIERCIAL, ZONE.
Subject petition was continixed from the meeting ef Februar,y 20, 1974, for
revisaon of plans.
No one appeared in op~osition ta subject petition.
Although the Staff Report to t.he Planning Commission dat~d March 18, 1974, was
not read at the public hearing, it is referred to and made ~ part of the
~minutes.
Mr. Morxis Gregary, agent for the petitioner, appe~red before the Commission
and Str~ted the proposal, as ~reaented on Fek~r~aary 20, 1974 to the Planning
C~~nmtission, had been studied and no chany::s were made; a;id that due to the
depth of the lot, the buil3ir~g would have to b~ zeduced by at least 5000 square
feet in order to comply with CodE requ,~remer,~s, whi~h would make the projec~
econom~.aally infeasible.
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MINUT~S~ CITY PI,I1NNItJG CUMMIS3ION, ~larcl~ 18~ 1974 74-148
RLCLASSIFTCATION N0. 73-74-41 (Contj.z~ued)
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSE~).
Commiseioner Compton inquir~d if Mr. Greg~r.y ~vae indicat~.nc~ that the pzoperty
uould naver be dev~eloped with the required '20 feet of 1ai~cl~caping ancl Mr.
~regory stated by providing the 20 feRt of lands~~tping the propert;- c.ould not
be daveloped with whz~t they werr~ pr.opoaing ns thc~ bu:llding wou13 be toc amull.
Upon inquiry of CommisAiUn~r Compton, Mr. Gr$gory stAt~d he did not believe
that Mr. 0'Meara, wh~ spoke to the subject reclassificatinn on Fe:~r~~ary 20,
1974, before thc~ Planni.ng Commiasiun. had contacted the residents in tho area,
how^v~r, as far as l~e knew there wexQ no protest~.
1lseistant Zaning ~upexvisor PhiJ.lip Schwartze advi.~~d that ther.e were two
lettera receivod ir. opposition to sub;ject pa~iti.an. Mr. Sc.hwartze read the
letters in opposition and aaid letters are referred 'r.o as if set forth in
xull in #:he minutQa.
Commi.ssi.oner King IlOt8C1 for the Commiasi~~n that he had r~viewed ~he aub~ect
property &gain in th~ field and r~oted that the homes on the abuLting single-
Eamily resi3ential properties were we~11 cared .fort that the hom~s ware preaently
protected from the ~ra£fic, inasanuch a~ theX backed up to the aubject pro~ser*_yi
that he certainly bplipved the subject property could be devel~pe~ in a mariner
auitable to provide continued protaction t~ the adjoining homesj that although
the p~titioner was indiGating th~; property was go~high-~~riced that a Iarge
building was necessary to make the deve].~pment ecanomically feasible, he did
not believe the property was so high-priceu that it sh~~~~'..; ;~e developed to the
detriment of the adjoi~ing properties.
Mr. Schwartze noted for the Commission that if tl'le subject prr~perty was deter-
mined to be appropriate for commercial xoning, the Commission might wish to
place on it a resolution of intent to C-l. zuning, subject tu the Commisaion's
review af plans which would rirovide a s~iitable buffer at the noz~th and sa~t
property lines.
Commi.ssioner Herbst noted that the property migk~t be suitable for a convenience
market.
Commissioner Farano noted tliat previous indic~tions of ~he Planning Commission
were that the property was sU~tab].P for commercial zoning and there would be
na question in his mind i.n that respectj that the minutes of. the February 20,
1974, Planning Gommission meeting clearly indicated the Commission's ~ositian
regarding development of the pr~~perty to the ext~nt that if the proposal was
revised ta provide the required buffer by possible rearrangement of th~ parking,
etc., it would be acceptable to the area, how~ver, the peti.tioner did not -vant
to do this. He continued by stating the four-week continuance from the
February 20 meeting was to g~ve the petition~r an opportuni~ky to resolve the
problems; however, the petitioner was submi*.cinq tha~ they had to reduce the
building sizP by 50U0 square feet.
Chairman Gauer Q~fered a motion, seconded b~• Commissioner Marley and MOTION
CARRIED, that the Planning Commission .recommends ta the City Council that 'the
subject praperty be exempt from the requiremeiit to prepare ar. Environmental
Impact Report pur.suant to the provisions of the Califarnia Environmental
Quality Act. .
Comi,lissioner Her~~ ~t offered a resolution rec;.,nmendiny denial a:~ Petition for
Reclassificatior. No. ~3-7g~41 on the basis of the foregoing findings, and
Commissioner Far~no suggested that the reasons for clenial should includ~ that
discussion was held between the Planning Commissioii and M=. O'Meara, re~rcoant~-
tive of the agen~ for the petitioner, that if the density of tYae proposa~ for
development of the subject property was re3uced it would be a more favorable
dev2lopment and tha~ Grego=y had reached a conclusion that he would hawe to
reduce the building by 5000 square fePt in order to meet the requirements,
ahiah conclusion cvas unverified and uncorroborative as far as the Pl~nn~ng
Conuni s s ion was concerned .
Cortunissioner Herbst neted for th~ Commission that the master plan indicated
comr~-ercial zoning at the corner of KeZloyg and Orangethorpe in the area.
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MINUT~S, C~TY. PLANNTNG COMMTSSION, Mnrch 18, ],974 74-149
RECLASSIFICATI~N NU. 73-74-41 (Continued)
2oning Supervisor Char.los Roberta i,nguirad if thc~ Plann~.ng Commiseion would be
lnalined t.~ go with cammercir~l zoning on the eubject property or what altornate
ueo might be maci~: af the proparty.
Commiesiarler Farano indicated that the Plax~ni.ng Commis~ion was not in diengree-
ment with, tho uee of the stibject proparty for commerci~l purposest khat iP the
alternative was other than aingl.e-family developmenr, som~+ kind of buffering
etrip far the protection of the adjoining R-1 properties would be requiredt
and that the buffering strip had beon requixed everi with R-3 developmeilt.
Mr. Robert.s advi~ed if L-he Cammiaston thought the subj~ci: property wAa ~pgro-
priate for commercial zaning and if suff~.cietit safeguaards could be placed in
the condition~ ~f ~pproval, i.e., aubject ko a 20-foat wide landacape strip
being provided at the nar~h and east propertX linea to aexv~ as a buffer to
the Rdjoining r~ingla-famill~ ze~:tdentia]. pr~pertiert and to ma•lntain the resi-
dent.ia.l integrity, and, furthPrmore, Kub~ect to submieei.on of prQCiae plana
And appraval thereof by the Planntng Commiaeion ~rior to th4 introduction of
nn ordii~ance r4zoning aubject pxoQerty, that proceeding wi~:h approval on the
foregding basis would in the l~ng run savc ti.me ond expenae if someone wanted
te develop the property commerciallX.
Ccmmissioner tterbst noted that the subject proporty wae a reaiilt o:~ what
happ6ns when property is held out, with R-1 bscking up to it with tha idea of
development in sume sort o~ comme.rcial manner; that he did not deny it was
apprapriatQ for cammercial; however, he did not agree it was suitable for a
lot ~f shaps such as was being praposed.
Thereupon, Cotrunisgioner ~ierbst withdrew his original mot~.on recommenciing dpnial
of the subject pstition and offered Itesolution No. PC74-61 and moved for its
passage and ad~ption to recommencl to ~he City Council that Petition fo.r Re~las-
si.fiaati4n No. 73-74-41 be approved s~~" -:ct to the condition that a 20-foot
wide lt~ndsr.ape strip shall be provid~ ~: the north and east property lines tn
serve as a buffer to the udjoining s.:~yle-famil~ residential prapextiea; tha.t
ad~quatE safeguards ~:~ould be provided to further. protect th~e living envixan-
ment of t.~ie adjozning single-family residential pioperties frozn commErcial
devel~pment on the suuject property; that the Planning Commission recommen~a-
tion for C-t zonir~g should be made subject to gubmission of pxecise plaris and
approva.l thereof by the Planning Cornmission ;~rior to t.he introduction of an
~rdinanc~ rezoniny subject pxoperty~ and subject to conditions. (See Reaolution
Boak)
Commis~ioner Herbst noted that particularly with convenience market devs].opmenta
there were ma.ny complaints regarding the houra of operation v~hich extend al.l
night in some cases and the adjoining residentiai properties deserved some
protection from this; and that he would l~ka to have the hours of operation
~ontrol].ed if possible to not extend beyond mic~*+'-'~+-.
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Deputy City Attorney Fr~nk Lowry advised t.hat if the property was zoned C-1,
the Gi.ty would have ta I.iv~ with the development s~tandards for that zone.
On roll call, the ioregoirag resolutxon was passed by the follc+wing vote:
AYES~ COMMISSIONERS: Compton, Farano, Hexbst, Johnson, Kinq, Morley, Gauer.
NOES: COMM7SSIONERS: None.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: None.
CONDITIONAL USE - CON'1`INiJED PUBLIC HEr1RING. ROBF.RT ~. 13UPR'~ AND J. RICHARD
PERtdIT Na. 145~1 FARLEY, 341 "A" Ba}-side Drive, Newport Beach, Ca. 92660,
Owners; PHARAOH SALES COMPRNY, c/o G1enn Blick, 1321 North
Kraemer Boulevard, Ansheim, Ca~ 92806, Agen~t; requesting
permission ~o RAISE QUAIL IN AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE an prope~ty described as:
A rectangularly-shapec~ parcel of lar~3 consiating of ~.pproximately 1.5 acres
having a frontage of approximately 175 feet on the west side of Orangethorpe
Park, having a maximum depL-h o£ approximate~ly 361 feet, and being located
approximately 760 feet north of the centerline of Orange~thorpe Avenue.
Property presently classified M-1, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, 20NE.
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MINUTES, CI'~X FLANNINC COMMIS3TON, Mnrch 18, 1974 74-1.50
~ONDIT~ONAI ~75~ PERMTT N0. 1454 (Continudd)
Subjec~ petiti~on wag aonti,nued f.rom th~ meAting of February 4, 1974, for the
petitionar to submi.t An Environmental Impact R~~ort, und fxom the meeting of
MArch 4, 1974, in urdsr for the peti.tioner to be pr.esen~.
,Aaei.er~nt 2oning Supervioor Yhillj.p 5chwartze nated far ~the CoT-~nisaion thak
Sta~ff had made numc~rous attemp~s by telephone to cantdct tho ~etitianer rd-
ge-~r~~.ng the status of his Environmental Impact Re~ort +~nd :ion4 of the calle
wc~re returne~i1 anr~ that a letter had be~n mai.led on Merch ].3, 7.574, inPor-ninq
the patitionex of the ~ending March 18 meetinq, howeve~r, no ane was gre~enC
at the mee~ting to repre~ent thP petitioner, nar had the ETR been suk~mitted.
Cammiaeianer K~ng ofFerod a,r.Qaolution to deny Petltion f~r Cunditinna~. Uee
[~erm~.t No. 1454, following whi~h there wa~ discugs•lon regarding ttie proced~xre
to tollow aince thnre wae rQason ta believ~ tha.t an application had b9en filed
far e~nuther uee at the subject locat9on which w~r~ld indicate that tihe qentle-
man who filed thQ aubject petition migt~t nr migh+~ not etil]. be there, and
s~nce an EIR ~s datermi.ned. to be apprapriate in the considerati~n of the pr~-
pasal ha,d not been aubmittQd.
Daputy City Attorney Frank Lowry advised it wau~.a be proper to ~ake ~he matter
off calendar unti~. c~uch time as an FIR was reaeiv~d which would a12.ow the
Planning Commic~sion to take an ao'c~on.
Zoning Supervisar Charles R~berts offexed a suggesti~n ~hat t.he ma~ter be
continuad for f.our weeks with the d~.rection that the Z~ning Enforcement
Of~icer aerve notiae an tY-e pc~titioner and if ths propos~d use was atil~ in
viol.ation and the ~etit~aner did not take imanecl:late ~ctian to comply, he would
be cited into couxt.
Theroupon, ~CommissionEr King withdr.ew his oziginal motion for denial of subject
petition and ~€fered a new motion ~o reopc~n the public hearing and further
continue cansideration af Cnnditional Use Per±nit No. 1454 to the meeting oP
April 15, 197A. Commissioner Morley seconded the motion and MOTTON GARRIED by
unanimoua vote.
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT - PUALIC HEAFcING. INI~YATED BY THE ANAHET1~i CTTY
NO. 123A PLANNING COMMISSION, 204 East Lincaln Avenue, An~heim,
Ca. 92805; proposi.ng ta amend tlle Anaheim General P~an
for the 4240-acre area commonly referred to us Anaheim
Hills.
ENVIRONMENTAI, IMPACT - CONTINUED PUBLIC HERRING. ANAHEIM HILLS, INC./ TEXACO
REPORT NO. 115 VENTL'R~S, INC., 380 Anahei.m Hills Road, Anaheime ~s.
92807, Owner; HORST .7. SCHOR, 390 Anaheim Hills Road,
RECLAS5IFICATION Anaheim, Ca. 92907, Agen~; requeating that property
N0. 73-?4-46 descriY~ed as: Qortion A- An irr~gularly-shaped
parcel of land conaisting of aQproximately 119 a~res
located southeast of the in~er.aection of Noh1 Ranch
Road and Ymperiai Hiqhway, having a frontage of approximately 5690 fee.t nn the
south side of Nohl Ranch Road and having a maximum degth of approximately 17i~0
feet, and Portion B- An irregular~y-ahaped parca~. of latad consistiny ~f ap-
proximately 1~5 acres located easterJ.y of the preaent t.erminus of Canyon Rim
Ro~d, having a maxirnum depth of approximately 5670 fPet and a maximum width of
approximately 1670 feet, be reclassified £rom the R-A, AGRICU''~TURAL, ZONE to
the PC , PLANIJEA COM.'tiIUNITY, ZONE .
Subject Petition for Reclassification No. 73-74-46 and consideratian c~f Environ--
mental Im~act Repart No. 115 were cantinued ~ram the meetinq of rlarch 4, 1974,
in order to advertise General Plan ,Amendment t3~. 123B.
Two pergor-s indicated their presence in oppositi.on and waived the full reading
of the Staff Repart to the Planning Commission dated March 18, 1974. Said
Staff Repor~ ia refprred to and made a part ~f the minutes,
Mr. Horst Saho~, Vice President with AnaY.,~im Hills, Inc., appeared before the
Cos~nission and stated the establi8kiment of the original Planned Communit,y Zone
in Anahe~im Hills had proven to be an effective tool in guiding the developer
and the build.exs in allowing the City to provide adequate ser.vice ta the
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MINUTLS, CT'~'x PLA~INING CCIMMTSSiON, Merch 18, 19'74 "I •15]
GENERAL PLAN 1-MENDM~NT NO~ 12;iH, F.NVIRONME;NT~.L INIPACT RF:P~~RT' NO. 115, ANf?
~CLASSII'I ~AT'[ON NO. 73-74-4G (Cantim~ed)
projects within tti~ Plannecl Gommunity 'Lonep that ~.heyy wero propoaing to acld two
additianal areaa to the PC Zon~, ~s outlined tn tllo Staf~ Re~art, aroa A being
a proJect ai.k~ consi.atiny of 119 acrc~e aouth of Nohl Fanch Road between Tmperial
I[3ghway nnd Anaheim ttilla Road dn~ the development wuu:.9 ba compo~ed oP R-2,
R-H••10,000, R-3 and business-protesr~ionAl propor~y; ~roa B bel.ng e 124-acre
ei".:e oast of the go1P c~urse and north o~t the raservoir and would be aompoeed
oi R-Fi-10,00n and R-~2 pr.opartyy thr~t denaities werc eatabli~hed in a somEwhat
airtii].ar faehion as i.n th~ir pr.evious pra jQCta r~nd wou~.d ~o ultimately developed
wit~h the ~~ame perc~r~tag~s aN exFerienced iit the pae~.J thet. as a matter of in-
r.e,rest, ttiro~igh ttie dovelopmdnt of azea A, the circulAtion ays~am would be
siqnificdr~~tly impx~a~~cd in Anaheim Hills and would allow the extensiun of Canyon
Ritr Road 1`r.~ its px•~seni: t~rmination ln tha Northridc~e project to Serrano
.'~venue ancl woul.d complQte L-hQ circulr~t.ion w3thin the Anaheim Hilte CommunityT
that circL~~atio,~ hacl been o~ some c~ncArn to th~ ~~taf£ and ~hey had workNd very
c~iliy.~ntlx~ with t:he Cit~ and Count.y Staf.~' xn malcinq ~'airmc~nt Boulevard which
would co~ne~ from Sant:~ Ana Canyon Road to Canyon Rim Road a possib~.lity nnd it
Appeared c~t this poi.nt in time that Fairmont would be r.onstructed and in plar.e
by the and of 1975 e~nd would provide t:~e much-n~eded s~cond outlet for ths
Anaheim Hills C:ommur~ityJ that ai:other installation which wo~ald occur through
the 3evNl~~ment of: iirez~ A would allow the Water. pepartment to install a perma-
n~nt 20-anch water :~inc i.nto the Mohler Dri.v~ area t~ serve Mohler Dr.ive as
well as a portion o1° the Narthridge proiect.
Mr. Schar canti.-~d by stating the.r~ was a good com~oei~ion oP land a3es~ as
in thP paat, anu ,.hlit there was sume nee3 for a medical-dental proPe~sional-
type building which was pr.oposed to be located in the commercial area at
Anaheitn H:llla Road ~vhera the pr.imE cummercial c.oncgntration was f and that
tihey had :ras~rved a 5-acre eitQ in the R-2 'Lone of area A on which they hoped
to attrac;~ a church, Mr. Schor concluded his presentation by sta~~.ng the
Staf f Rep~art c~vere~i th~ pr~poaal quite we11, haw~ver, he was avai.lable to
answpr any ques±ion:s the Commission miyht have.
Zoning Supervisor C'zarles Roberts expandsd upon Mr. Schox's preoentation bX
emphasizing some o: the noints c.ontained in the Staff Report. He explained
for t`~e Connnission that when General Plan Amendment No. 123 was origina]~.y
appr~ved, one ~f the requirement. o:C oart of said General Plan Amendment was
that the er-tire .ranch ~,e divided ~nco planning areas and tliat an assigiiment
be made to thase in3ividual planniny ar~as for th~ numL~er of units that the
developer anticipated would be developed i~l that area; Lh3~ the planni~ig
areas wer.e rathe: defi.nitive, al~houglz they werz still general to a certain
degree; that the pragosal befnre the Commission pertained to portions of two
of the originally-approved planz~ing areas, or 244 ;~cres of said planning
areas; and that the number ~ dwelling units being pr~posed for the 244 acres
would be deducted Erom the r,unibar af dwelling units ariginally approved fcr
the entire development of the tw~ planning areas, whi~^Pi would indicat~ that
Flnaheim Hilla was nat proposing to increase the number af dwalling units
within the original planning areas. Mr. Roberts ~ontinued by noting that in
reviewing the Circulation Element contained in th~ proposal bookl~t pr~vided
by Anaheim Hills, Inc., in connection with General Plan Amendment No. 123B,
oize of thP ~~treets as orictinally shown did n.~t appear, said str.eet being V~a
Escola which connectec? Anaheim u~.lls Road with Crescent Avenue; and that the
Cotrmission might wish to discus~ the reasons for that omis~ion. Further,
there were 16 ac_es being p.roposed f.or commerci~il dev~lopment which was not
approved in General Fian Amendment No. 123A.
Mrs. Mary Ainndarf, Presiden~c, Santa Ana Canyon Improvement Association, Inc.,
appeared before tlze C:ommission and read from ~. Ci ty Council re~solution en-
titled "A RESOLUTIOiV ~F THF CT.TX CQUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ANAHE~M DECLARING THE
CITY COUt1CIL'S IN'rE'V'r TO MAINTAIN THE PERA7~TA HILLS AND SANTA e1A]A CANYON AREAS
AS LOW DENSITY RESIDFNTIAL AREAS", said resoiution being adopt~d J~:ne 9, 1970.
She further etater~ that the days of the frontier were gone and no ionger could
the beauty and v~Q rt.h of land be destroyedt that thought must be given in terms
of other people in ~~ther times and not to develo~~rs and the profit; that
whereooever a man l:lved today another marl would live tomorrow and it wa~ time
to reHlize that des:~gn should be for the £utuxe as well as f~r today; and she
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MINU'I'ES, CITY PI~ANCJINC, Ct~MMISSION, MArah 1.8, 1974
'14~152
GENERa1L PLAN AMEI~DNI~N'P NO. 12313, ~NVIP.ONMENTAL IMPAC7.' R;c:.POR1' NO. 115, AND
FtECLASSI'r'ICATION NO. 73-7q~46 Continue~l? ~~~_~~ `
remindod thg P1.anning Commi~aion that th~ crtiz~n~ wero lo~king Por an~w~rg
in trying to fin~3 solutions £or the pr.oblc~mA that exceeeive dnd irre~poneive
growth wns cxaat:Lng x~r tho pROp1c~ in tho areas of hc~a].th, s~fety and achaols.
Upon inqulry of Chal.rman Gauer, Aesistant Zoning Super~ieor Fhilli.p ;~chwartze
indicaf~d that the reaolution re~d by Mre. vinnclorf was sti11 in effect ~o
hiA knowledge.
Mr.. RogQr Wi.lson, Planning Ai.ds, r~preaentln~ ~he Orange Uniflnd Sc.hool.
Distriat, appeared befora ~lie Commiaeion an~~i stated inaemuch as tltere~ were
three new 1'lanning C~nun~.ssion~rs it: was probably approprixt~ to rc~ad the
~.etter dated March 18, 197a, which was d.Lractad to the Planning Commissian
from Mr. Harry H. Platt, Bu~inesa btanaqer n.f ttte Orang~ Unif:ted Schoal District,
said letter being in oppoa~.ti~n to ~he General Plun Amendment No. 1235 and EIR
rla. 115. Z~her.eupon, Mr. Wilson rer-3 amid letter and it ~s referred t~ as ~.f
set forth in full ir- the mtnutc~s. Mr. Wilson stated he w~uld be available
during the meeting in case thero we:re any questions which he cnuld ~nt~wer for
the Commission.
In rebuttal, Mr. Scho:~stated as fF~r as the General Plan for the Hi11 and
Canyon Area, the Anahei,;n Ci~.y Cc~unc:il adopted tlie Anaheim Hilla General Plnn
as its General Pl.an for that ~artic;ular area and in ap~roving that F'1t~n, a
ceiling wat~ aet for ~he total numbbr of living units thttt gliou.ld occupy the
area; that the numbe.r of living uni*s over t;ie past years was consiatentl.y
rec~uced in that 15,000 were origini~lly pro~ected and ~he total at pr~s~nt
was 12,700 and further reductions would b~ incurred a~ time elap~ecl; that the
development was c~nsi.stPnt with the dorument read by Mrs. Dinndaxf; and that
the overall density for the entire 9200 acres was below the density the City
was striving far., Hc c.ontinued by atating ins~far as the schoo7, sitv.Ation was
concerned tha~ ~h~:y were pre~ent].y in caurt and there were also negotlati.ons
taking place be:.ween Anaheim Hills, T.nc. and the School DiEtriot and he waa
c~rtain that schools would b~ provided one way or the other as this had been
done in the past and would continue ko Un flone in the future.
Mr. Schor cor,tinued by s tating thzt the General Plan AmendmQnt heing reque~ted
did z~ot oc~nstitute a final map approval but was a first step; that the builder
would have to c~me before tl~e Commisaion for tenta.tive tract map ax~d final
specific plan appr.oval ar~d that the Planninc~ Cammission would have many con-
trols over th~ ultimate appearanc;e of any project within the Planned Cnmmunity
Zone and its ultimate density; that as far as the street at the r.•idgeline
location that was mentioned by Mz. Roberts as being removed from the circula-
tian plan, thp reason it was not ahown on the new Plan was because of thp un•-
certainty as to what mignt happen on the ridgeline; that the cities of Anaheim
and O rar.ge ha~ an agreement that the ridgeline was t~ be the ultlma~e boundary
between the two cities and ex~ctly wY~ere that boundary was was gti ll aub ject
to discussion; however., if it would assist the Staff in determining the plan-
ning araas, it coulcl be 3hown .
THE PUBLIf: HFRRING WAS CLOSED.
Commissianer H~rbst inquired cf Mr. Wilson i.f it wes tru~e fihat the Scho~l
Distzict would like the Planning Cort~mission and City Council ta withho?.3
approving the subject General Plan e~Vnen~ment until suck- time as whe Schoal
District was able to provide sahools, and Mr. Wilson stated that was a tru~
statement to the extent tha*_ the impact of the large amoun.t of de~~relopment at
this particular time would create double sessions in the exi~ting school
facilities until more funds or new funds became appacent and presently funds
were not apparent.
Commissioner Herbst further inquired when could the City te11 the 3~~ve7.oper
tha.t schools would be av~ ~.larle; that there was a considerab~.e amount o~
growth ir. the area and s ince the School Distxict wanted the City to coordinate
i~~s planning with that of the School District, the Sch~ol Distric} s~hould be
able to indicate what th eir plans werP.
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MINUTF.S, CI~Y P.LIU~1NiNG COMMISSTON, March 18, 1y74 74-15~
(3ENC1tAI. PLAN ~NDNI~NT NU. 1238, ENVIRONM~NT}IL IMPACT REPORT Nb. 115, P,ND
RECLASSIFICATION N0. 73~74-46 (Con~inuod~
Mr. Wilson roplied thdt it was di•Ffic~ilt to giva a timo when the School District
would be Perm~tted ~y tho votere t.n ~ex rhem at a greater c3j.1AC~.ty and A bond
election would have to be pasaadl th~+t the political bou:nddrj.ea cause+d prabl.eme,
hcwever, ~he School ni.e~tri~t w+~s c cying to ACIL~Cdt~' tha vatern through a public
rolations c~mpeign to pass a band el~c~ianj tl~~t another bond oleotion was
b~inq conaidered but had not beQn finalized to dake.
~ommi.~sionar Herbst n~ted that the 5ahr~~1 Dietrict ~vas aekin~ for eomething
they had no plane for l ttiat taxes had baen collected Por the AC~'1OQ18 in the
aren; that the Planning Commisstan had no contro~. over s4honl dietriote but
that th~ Commir~~ion's responsib~].ity wae land uee and whether the proper~y wae
auitablo for homes in thA Canyon arex or not~ that tha Schmol Diatriot was
requeating the City to h~ld up d~ velopment until the School Dietrict had soma
timo to do eome futuXO ~lanning; th at the School Dis~trict had had ten yAara
to plan; that the City hAd be~n planning for. tt~~ ~.anyon for many yeara and the
Sr.hool District had apparently ignored that pl,.~nning; anc~ that he would suggest
the School Diatrict reprasatit~tives com3 back to ~ he Planni.ng Canunisaion with
somQ epecific etatements ae L-o when and h~w t!~~y w.>uld plan for th~a schools
in the areaj that tt-e Planni.ng Commission hac3 ar, obligation ~o t.ho c~~ ~lupera
and the School District had an obligation to tl~e peaple who owned th~ proper-
ties from whom th~s l.axcs f~r the School Distx•ict were derived.
Mr, Wilson statod that the damands wriich the City was placing on th~ Schoal
District had c~me abaut very rapidly and the School Di~trict had bQen making
plans based ~n thQ knowledge they had; that the School llistrict had a master
pl~nning consultant firm wtio liandled the master ~lar~n.ing for achoal facilitiss
and provided palicy statsments as ~o wh~t wauld l~a needed in the di.strict;
that sites were being planned and considered, however, they coulci not be pur-
chased until funds wsre avai~able; thst they did not know whan ~hQy would
receive the maney and t:hey were r.equesi~ing that the growth in the r~rea be
phased to eliminate the po~sibility af doub~e aessions and bussing miles away
to aouth Oranre. HIe c~ntiitued by statir~g the School Distxict was rsquesting
~h~ Plar~niny Commission and City Counci]. ta look at the impac~ on the children
a~d their education.
Upun furtk~er questionin~ by Commissioner Herbet, Mr. Wilsor. stated the growth
in tha area should coincide with the construation of new school faci.lities.
Upon inqui.ry of Chairman Gauer, Mr. Wilson stated he was not prepared to state
tha exact numbex of pupils pr~sently bei.ng accommodated from Nohl Ranch.
Chairman Gauer noted that the suilject areR had been master ~lanned for a very
long time and perhaps the School District cou.ld have m~de plans for tPmpora.ry
facilities if they had anticipated a need; that several schools had beon
abandoned ~n Whi~~tier and in other areas f that schoo?. enrollment r~eemed to be
dropping *-ather zapidly and such migltt o~cur in tk~e suh j~ct area. :ie sugges ~ed
that rath '+an talking to thE City of Ar,aheim, Mr. Wfls~n should ~robably be
~alking to ~. : ublic in Orange and letting ±•hem know what the Distria~ ex-
pected i,rould h~pp~n .
blr. F/i2son indicated that thQ recent bonc~ electi~n failed by a~arrow margin.
Upon questioning by Coirnnissioner Herbst, Mr. Wilson s~ated a"cQmmittee for
better srhools" had considerQd ~he year-round schual progru~n and to date did
not feel strungly about it for quality education, and possibly ~he community
itself did not a~cept it; nevertheless the committee was not moi:ivated to ask
t}iQ superinter.dent for such a policy statement.
Upon inquiry of C~mmissioner Farano, Mr . Wilson stated the mas~er plan consult-
~nt was employed by the School District- at different period$; that t~~e District
haa been atudying the master pla±i for Anaheim Hills since aprr~::i;,~ately 1:~?2,
although he a~as not ab~olutely sure of the length of. time; t:~at he was un-
certain about m~ny it~ms that dated back befcre the time he was firet employed
with tlie School Aistrict; however, if fhe Planning Commission so desir~d, they
cou13 address a letter to the Superintendent af the School District tco obtain
any specific informmtion; and that he did not wish the ~lanning Commission ~o
discred3t him becausE he ould not give concrete data in reply to many question$
raised by the Commission~:r~.
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MIN~]xES~ CITX ~~ANRTNG COMMISSI"~)N, MarcY: 16, 1974 74-154
GENL~RI~L PLAN AMENDM~;NT N0. 1238 , FNVIHONMENTAL IMPACT REPaRT NO. 115, 11ND
RECLA.SSI~ ICATION N0. 7~-74-46 Cantinued) 4_
Ch~f.rmen Gauor nnted that the Commi.beion could not e~].va t.h~ p.roblema of the
School DistrictT that the School Distri~t xepreeentAtive hr~ been very in-
definite and particularly in re.~pect to the curront averag~e daily ai:tendance
and whe~t was expectAd in that regarcij that the School District wr~u13 probably
not have as man,y peo~le ln tha Anahc~im Hilla area ne they expected1 and that
kho h~mea would bo L•-uilt and sold at eeparate timeb which would stayger the
numbar nf People ac~nerated at ono timc .
Mr. Morl~y noted that he waA conceraed about the 16 acrea for commerc:ial
development and quoationed thc~ ty~o and function o£ the proposAd of.Qices.
In rAply Mr. Schor statc~d the gr.oss acreaqe wae eompwha~ deceiving sj.ncc on].y
5 ot thoae acres would be pad ar.ea ancl the remainder of 11 acres would be
slopa area, as inc~icated in the Land UsA Element of tha proposal; that tho
offices ware, pro~osed to satisfy the needg of the conununity r~n8 wouJ.d ba
loc~ted on a p.rofessional site nAar the ahopping ce~nter for. convenience; and
that a faod mar.k~et was locat~d immediately acrosF the str.cet From the proposed
oEfic~s.
Commisaioner Farano queationed the ir~formation contained on page 5-f of the
3taf£ Repart to the Planning Cammi.ssi~m and indicated fliat it appe~red to
conflict with tt~e e~rliPr sl:ateme, +: of Mr. Roberta that the densities pxoposeci
did not excaed those ori.ginal.'. y appr.oved. For furthr.r clar3 Pication, Mr.
Rob6rta adviaed that his statemFnt was to i.ndicate L-hat ~he peti~tioner was not
pxa~+osiiig a yreater number of dwelling units within the originally-definad
aroas f however, the over~ll density of just the 244 aores exceeded the overall.
denai.t~~ that was approved f.or tl~e 4200 acr.es= that ti~h~re the petition.er was
increasing the density on the 249 aares, a corresponding:ly lesser density
would havz ~o be cons~.dered for the remaining acreagej t:hat the ~roposed
General Plan Amendm~n~ was to add 244 acras to the Planned Community 'l.one
which would have a gr.o~s denaity of 5.2, however, to date there was no chanqe
ir. the overall density for the entire 4200 acr~s and the pattern was that the
overall density was decreasing .
Upon further questioning by Commissioner Farano, Mr. Schor stated the Plan
indicated a total of b7 ~cres of commercial located within the ranch; that
sor.~e commercial wauld be pr~vided ar.ound the reservoi.r; that they would atay
with the 67 acres , however, the final commerc=al development would probably
be below t-.hat acreage.
Commissioner. Farano r~otad that during the work seRSion held for the purpose
of reviewing the proposed. expansion ~f thP planned Community Zone in Ansheim
Hills on February 25, 1974, it was understooci that the Plan*~pd Co,rmunity ~on~
when adopted cuuld not exceed. the d~nsities specified in t.he originally-
approved Plann~d Community Zone, howpver, the denaities coLild Ue less than
those specified. Mr. Schor ~urther stated that the final ciensitiss would be
approved by tract maps .
Upon inquiry of Commi.ssioner Herbat, Mr. Schor st~ted that studi~s had been
prepare~: in terms of buildabl~ land ar.c3 for a 20-acre gross site, the pad
area would be about 12 to 15 ac~:es. Commissioner Herb~t made an observation
that by using the densities a~.~i applying them to gross acreage, the develop-
ment could coneeivably have 20 units per acre.
Mr. Schor furth~r stated taat tlie density stated wou11 not necessarily be
buiJ.t; that the Plar-ning ~c~nmisaion wou].d see the layout and be able to deter-
mine wh~ther the product w~ul~ be a goad one alang with th~eir review of the
densities at that tin~e.
Com~nisaioner Herbst indicated that the figures and data such as was being
discussed was sometimes us~d a~ leverage and he would like to have the densi-
ties specified in usable pad sizes. Mr. ~chor stated it was possibls to do
what :ommisaioner Herbst was suggestin~, howevex, it was a li~tl.e diEficult
at tim~s ailc? i.t was almost impossible withoLt a p1An.
Commie3ioner Herbst furtl-.er noted that if. the netitioner would say in plain
ter.r-s that they had a 16-acre commercial site but theX would only havp 5 acres
of commercial development, everyone wau].d understand that. He ~lso made
reference ~o the R-3 zoning i.n th;e petitiomer's prnposal which indicated 20
ucres at 10 units per acre for R-3 zoning, and that this would sum up to 200
uni+:e.
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MINUTFS, CZTX F~11~VNING COMMISSIUN, March 18, 19 i 4 74-~155
GENFRP-L PLAN AMENDNi~NT N0. 123$, ~NVIiNNMENTAI, IMYAC''i' REPORT NO, 115, ,ANp
RECLASSIFICATIOrI NO. 73-74-46 (Cont~.nued) _ _ _,
Mr. RobertiR clArifie~' for the Commi~eion that to da~a all of. the £igures for
ttie Anehelm HJ.lls Community h~d been on a grnas baai.aJ tha~ h~ could aec~ tho
Commiasi.an's cancern ta chRngo to a ueable pad ~r nut figure; that therQ hn~i
baen an apprnximato 20~ reductian ao far in relaCion to the devel.opment
approved and the final r~ciuct.ion w~uld remai.n to be sean~ au~ that the in~ent
was that the overall dQnsity of the dQVelo~ment of t11o 4200 aczes would be
3. 3.
Commisaioner Herbst rioted that aomewhere along the w~-y, ~ha bo~ks would havQ
to be balancedj that he had no argunient that r~ome ~f the peop:le in the Hill
and Canyon Area would want to liv~ in apartmentat howev~r, ho felt thR numb~r
of dwelling unii:~ t~hould be apelled out on a given pad si~e rat~her than a
total aite= that there had been some confuaion as to haw much density should
be in the different planning ar.eas, and if th~re would bo high-risQ, conda-
miniums, etc., in order to achieve the propoaec~ densities.
Mr. Wayns Cr~lluhan, representing Anaheim Hills, Inc., t~ppe~red before the
Commisaion and stated ttiey were working wi.th a~ot of unknowns nnd the actua.l
densities would not be known until site plane wer.e submitteci, howeve~~, in
ju3t about every ca~e they had made r~duc~ions.
Commissioner Johns~n note3 that according to the Stmff, r.eductions ]zad bee~n
made in ttie densiti.os, however. he w~s not sure that thz commercial acreage
had been allowed in the General Plan for the Anaheim H~.11s and in ~:he parti-
Gular area a3 was bexng pr~p~sed.
In reply, Mr, Schor stated that the ort7inal nl.an allowed 67 acres of commer-
cial; that the area should provide for supportive commercial devel~pment so
that the residents would not have to travel outside of. the area to do their
shopping; and that the area was a considerable distanoe away from medical and
dental services.
Mr. Jim Barisic, Vic~. P.r.esident with Anaheim Hills, Inc. ~ appearec~ before the
Commission and stated he was inclined to g~t heavil}' involved in rPlation-
shipe with tihe people who purchased lan~ ~~rom them and those who were looking
to Anaheim Hills for the amenities being ~:;ivertised such as parks, shopping
center, equestrian and hiking trails, tennis club, etc.; that tlze builc~ers
were also questioning if there would be business and professional development;
that they were planning a signifiaant community with~n a commu.ity; that every
need could not be satisfied but they were trying to do ~verything they could;
that in the original sr.opping center, unfortunately, there was not enough room
for o£fice-•professional; •that they had given ~he matter some thought as to
where the l.ogical place would be to concentrate the commercial and the location
shown on the Plan, being a heavily-travelecl corner~ was selected which would
be separated off by the slope areaj that. they di.d not want to cut themselves
out of any additional commercial as it would hurt Future residential develop-
ment; ~~d that he hacl originally said "no" to R-3 develc-p*nent.
Conunissioner Farana inquir~c3 if Mr. Barisic was not in the position of making
pr.omises and asking the Planning Commissian to fu1fi11 them.
Commissioner Compton inquired concerning the amount o~ acreage that would be
deducted for the propoaed 5-acre connnercial~office development from the to~al
67-acre allotmen~t for commercial development, as referred to by Mr. Schor.
Commi.sr~ioner ,7ohnson noted that at nu pfl int had he read that there would be
afficeg located in the area and that he wuuld nee~ more than just the peti~
tioner's say-so that the people wanted that type development in fihe area.
Mr. Barisic stated that they had b~en request~d by the people to indicate
where the offices would be located; th3t there were very few peopls living
in the area at the ~resent time; and that the Yorba Center was one and one-
half miles away and it seemed to make ser.se from a planning standpoint to
h~ve commercial-office in t.he proposed location.
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MINUTES~ CI~Y PLANNZNG CONlMISSION, March 18, 1974 ?4-15G
GFNEttAL PLAN At~IF:NDN~NT NO. 123B, FNV7:R~NMF:r~TAI, IMPACT REPQR~ N0. 11.5, AND
RECLASSIFICAI'ION N0. 73-74 FA6~Continued~. !
Commiasioner Farano iriquirac~ if ~lte petitioner hnd ar.y idea where the remain-
ing 49 acrea of commorcial wotild bo locatoclt tha~ he did not want, neceseazily
to gat into L•hose datails at chis time, however, it wuuld aeiv~ ~.o givQ the
Commiasi.on a better feel for what was tranepiring ~o have either an officia:~
or unufficial idHa.
Mr. Roborts call.c~d to the C~mmisal.on's attenti.oz~ itdm 15 oit page 5~g of the
5tia£f Raport ~o the Planni~lg Cammi~eion regarding traff.tc circulation and
ddvieed that the Trmfftc En~7ineer tiad expresaed some concern ovcr the effoc-
tivenesa of the present system if the traffi.c volumes genazated by the exiet-
ing, approved and proposed development~ now in procese were developed without
an additional acc.eas to Santa Az~a Canyon RoadJ that in that case the treff.ic
aould not bo adequately aceommodatedt that if the propnsed extension of
Fairmont Boulevard wae accomp].ished within the t~.m~ frdme i.ndi.cated in the
planning of Anaheim Hills, the tr.affic could be aceommodated; that the numLer
of dwelling units r.ould not exceed those dwelling units as proposed in Genaxal
Plan l~mendmen~ Nos. 123A and 123B until Fairmont Boulevard was constructed.
In reply to questioning of Commissionor Farnno, Uffice Eragineer Jay Titus
advised that Fairmont Aoulevard wae proposed as ~n A.H.F.1~. pro~ect during
thQ coming year for acqu.i~ition as a right-of-way, with construction to ~e
d+.~ring the F.Y. 74-75.
Upon further questio»ing by Commissloner Faran~~, Mr. Bax•lsic atated in teLtin3
of "sel.l out" the developmc~nt in process wouLd pr.ob~bly be only half-way
through by the time Faizmont Boulevard was completed.
Commissianer Farano noted that Anaheim Hills, Inr.. and the b~~ilders ahould
be put on notice regarding the potential problom ii~ relation to the construc-
tiun of Fairmont Hculevard; that he would suggegt that wl~en tYie developera
came before the Planning Commission with their plans that Fairmont Boulevard
and ita coincidence be handled at that ta.mef that the petitioner should also
b~ prepared to discu:;s the completion of Fgirmont Boulevard along with the
various Planned Communzty Zone reques~s so that the developm~nts would not
exceed whaL- the streets could adequately accommodt~te,
Traffic Engin~er Edward Gran7ow advised that the section o£ conc~rn in the
area was between Canyoii Rim Itoad and Nohl Ranch Road as it was the only area
that could be serious enough to cause a traffic congeation problem; and that
if Fairmont Boulevard was extended northerly to Canyon Rim Road prior to fu7.1
development without an extension between Anaheim Hi.lls Roa~i and Canyon Rim
Road, an im~ossible ~ituation would be areated.
Commissioner Farano inquired if ~he cor,cern could be sati~fied if the schedul-
i.ng of t~e homes and the resi3ents that were contemplated by the subject
Planned Community Zone were reconciled with Fairmont Bo~~levard so that thQ
City and the developer were aware of the sche~ule, and Mr. Granzow indic~*ed
in the affirmative.
Commissioner King offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Farano and MOTION
CARRIED, ~hat the Planning Cummission recommends that the City:Counci'1 certify
to having zeviewed and considered the information cont~ined in EnvironmPr~tal
Impact Repart No. 115 in conjunction wit.h EIR TJo. 80, and that tlle tinal EIR
l~as been completed in ~ompliance with the California Environmental Quality Act
and the State Guidelines.
Commi.ss~aner Morley iioted thati if the G~neral Pla~n Amendment No. 123B was ap-
proved, th~ Commission woLZld be voting to appro~!e commercial in the o«e area
as shown on the Plan.
Commissioner Fa.rano stated that a stipulat.ion would be in arder by the peti-
tioner that t;-e amount of ground being indicated on the Plan for coirunercial
application consi~te~ of 16 acres although only 5 of those acres would in fact
be commercial property; that he woiild agree with thnt cnmmercial in the area,
however~ he was not enthusiasti.c at~out it; tha~t there was some commercial
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MTNUTES, CITX PLANNINC CUMMIS5ION, March 18, 19;4 74-157
GENc~RAI, PLAN AMEN[` ;NT N0. 123D, RNVIItONMLNTAL IMPACT REI~ORT NO. llti, AND
RECLASSIFICATTON NU. 73-74-46 (Cont.inue~ci)
cant.c~mplatod on the or.iginal Plr~n ta be at trarioue pui.nte throughout Nohl Fanch
and thc~ proposal ~~ould be consic+t~Yxt with the Plan aa origin~+lly conceivedt
~hat the placement o£ commc~~-cia1 was senei~ive and that wda why ho roquEoted
to know where the remair~ing ~19 acres would be located. Commieaioner Farano
then requeated the petitioner to provide plane indfcatir.q ~he location of i:he
r.emainir~g commercial out of thc~ total E7 acres refarred to by Mr. Schor.
Thereupon, Mr.. Schor stipu].ated that the entire 16 aares praposed to be deval-
oped commerciAl-office would he deducted in totAl. from C.he 67 acres originally
approved fox commercial development within the 420G-acre Analieim Hills
Communi~y, although th~ 5 acz'QS of tho 16 acres •~ould no pad a~ea anci the
remaindex slope land.
Cammissi.oner F'axano then noted far the petitione.: that tt~ere wms an~thar 10
acxes of commercial in ~the Northridqe ~:evelopment and Mr. Schor ~tai:ed that
was probably the preaent shopping center si.te, however, he would eubmit a plan
a~t soon as possi.b.le to show the commercial s~ties throughout the entire 4200
xcres.
Commi~sioner Farano affered Resolution N0. PC74-62 and moved for ita passage
and a3option to recommend to the City Couricil that Ge~tera]. Plan Amen~ment N~.
123B be approved subject to the foregoinq findi.nga and the atipu.lation by the
petitianer. (Se~ Reselution Book)
On roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the £ollowing vote:
AYES; COMM7SSIONF.RS: Comgton, F'arano, Herbst, King, Morlsy, Gauer.
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: Johnson.
ABSEN'": COMMISSIONERS: None.
Commissioner Farano aoted that iit the past Staff had £urnished a n~~aster plot
plan on previous applications as to the status af the densitie~, e~c., and h~
would r~quest that Staff be directed to continue to furni~h that type infor_-
matior. in the Staff Reports in order that. the Conuniasion would know where they
stood speci.fically; that it was ane thing ~o be within the densities but due
to earlier reauctions, the develaper might fe~l ha had the ability to unduly
unload denaity in later areas of development; that the total Anaheim Hills
Community no longer had the connotation t;hat it once hadt and it was esser~tiaZ
to know how i~~any acres had been develaped, what the densities were, etc.; that
as far as he was concerned, the deve].opers stood notified that these matt~rs
would be looked at very careful].y inasmuch as the resident~ did not like t~ur~
p_ises any more than the ~,etitioner dide
Commissioner Farano offered Resolution No. PC74-63 and mo~ved for it~ passage
and adoption to recommend to the City Council that Petition for Reclassifica-
tion No. 73-74-46 be approvec] subject to the foregoing findings and the stipu-
lations by the petitioner. (See Resolut.ion Book)
On ro11 call, the foregoing resolution was pasaed ~y the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Com~ton, Farano, Herbst, King, Mor.ley, Gauer.
NO~S: COMMISSIONERS: Johnsox~.
ABSENT: C~MMISSTONERS: None.
RECE5S - Chairman Gauer declared a rece~s at 4:15 p.m.
RECONVENE - Chairman G~uer recanvened the meetinq at 4;25 p.m.,
with all Commissioners pres~nt.
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MxNUTES, CxTX PLANNING COMMISS]:ON, M~rcii 1A, 1974
ENVIRONMP:NTAI~ 'IMPACT
R~PORT N4. li0
RECLAS9IPICATION
N0. 73-74-31 _
VARSANCE NO. 2559
TENTA`~IVE MAP OF
TRACT NOS. $~63,
8464, 8465 AND
8466
74-158
CONTINUI:D PU}3L1C HEAR.LNG. ANAHETM HILLS, INC. AND
TEXAC'~ vEN"URES, INC. , c/o James I,. I3arisic, 380
Anaheim tittl~ Road, Anah9im, Ca. 92807, Owner.
Propcrty descrthed aa: An irregul~rly-ehdped parcol
of land conaieting of approximatsl,y 65 acre~ having a
fzontage of approximatQly 24'15 fQet on thQ e~uth aide
of Canyon Rim Road, hav~.ng a maximum dapth of approxi-
mately 1800 Feet, and being located ~+pproximately one
mi'le north~ast of the centerli.ne of. Nohl Ranch Road.
Property proaently classified It-A, AGRICUI,TUR,~-L, ZONF..
REQU~STF.D CS,ASSIFICATIUN: R-H-10,000 RESID~NTIAL
H'LLL5TDE, I~OW D~N'~ITY,
SINGLE-:AMTLY, ZGI~E.
REQUF.STED VAF2IANCE: WAIVk; (A) SII~iGLE-FAMILX STRUC'I'URES R~ARING ONTO AN
ARTBRIr'1L HIGHWAY AND (B) MINTNIUM PRIVATE ACCESSWAY
WID'PH TO E57'ABLISH E'OUR TRA.C~S ZONED R-H-10,00Q
CONTAINING A'r0'rAJ~ OF 163 LOTS.
TENTATIVE TRR(;T REQUESZS: ~NGINEER: WILLUAN ASSOGIATES, 125 5ou~h Claudina
Streei:, Ant~lzeim, Ca. 92805. Sub ject property is
proposer3 for subdivieion as ~ollows:
Trac*_ No. fl463 - 40 R-H-10,00Q zoned lots;
Tract No. 8464 - 42 R-I~-l0,b00 zoned lots;
Tract No. 8465 - 45 R-h-10,000 zoned lots;
'rract No. g466 - 36 R-H-10,000 zoned lo~s.
Subject peti,tions were continued from the ineettng af January 21, 1974, at tlie
request of the petitioner, and from the meetir.g of March 4, 1974, in ordPr ~o
be hear.d in conjunction with Fteclassification No. 73-74-46.
Upon inqutry of Chairman Gauer, Mrs. Mary Dinndorf, President, Santa Ana Canyon
Improvement Association, Inc., indicated her presence in opposition to sub~ect
petitions and waived the full reading of the Staff RPport ~o the Planning
Commission dated March 18, 1974. ,aid Staff Report is referred to and m~de
a part of the minutes.
Mr. Horst Schor, Vice President with 1lnaheim Hills, Inc., appeared before ~he
Commission and stated as indicated in the Staff Report, the praposa~, was for
develo~.~ment on large lots which would be ~n asset to the entire community;
that i.n connectiori with Condition No. 11 as set forth in the Staff Report for
Txact No. 8464, they w~uld like the final claasification of the r.oadway left
to the Pir.al development and that there be a two-lane road to Cari}•on Rim Road
as a condition o£ the subject tract to provic~e accesG and exit.
Deputy City Attorne~ Frank Lowry advised tha~t the Engxneering Division had
indicated that th~y would like the condition to remain as set forth in the
~taff Report, although they were willing to insert the werd "u].timately" so
that the developer could contitz~~ct two lanea but that the road would remairi
a secondary access constructed to City of Anahaim standards for. a hillside
collector, ulti.ma*_ely.
Thereupon, Mi•. Schor etipu:Lated to the ultimate construction of the second
access to Canyon Rim Road to hillside collector s~reet s~andar3s, however,
it would be constructed concurrEntly with the improven,ents for subject tract
as a two-lane roadway.
Upon questianing by Camm;.sai.oner King, Mr. Lowry a~ivised that the width would
include two 12-foot t•ravel lanes and 8-foot parking lanes; and that the peti-
tioner had stipulated ~o con~tructing the two 12-foot travei lanes now and as
the i;ract developed the road would he construct~d to hi.llside collec~^*- stree•t
standarc3s .
Assistant Zoning Su~ie.rvisor PhilLip Sahwartze noted for the Planninq Commission
that with the approval of Reclassific~tion 1Jo. 73-74-46 earlier in th~i~z meeting,
the subject property was now included in the PC, Pl~nned Conm~uaity, ZorE and
it was not nece~sary to Froceed fuxther wi:.h the Peti*i.on for Reclassification
No. 73-74-31.
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MINUTE~~ c:I,TY PLANNING GnMMISSION, Mnrch 16, 1974 74-159
ENV'IRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT NO. 11.0, W;C'LASSIFICATION N0. 73-74-31, '~ARTANCE
NO. 2569, AND TENTAxIV~ MAP AT' TFtACT N03. g463, 8464,_8A65,_AtJD 8466 (Cant'd.)
Thereupon Mr. S~hor stipulated to withdr.•aw.~l of Petition for R~~la~seification
No. 73-74-31.
Mre. f4ary Dini~dorf, Presidont, Sa~ntA Anr~ Canyon ImProvement Aesociakion, Inc.,
appeared before tha C~mmi.ssion in opposi.tian to sut~~ect Environmental Impact
Report and ota~ad it wa~ her underatanding i~rom ~a'lki.ng with varioue legal
aqenciea tha~t environmental impact .rc~por.ts wer~ required to indicate the cumu-
lative impact on tho air que-l.ity ae each indivic~ual development went through
and that EIR No. 110 did not inc11ca4:e that informat.ion anh in tltat reapect was
not adequaCe.
Ir- rebuttal, Mr. schor stAted he understoocl thnt there had boan an omi~si.on
r~nd a correction was being preparod to the EIR. Thereupon, he stipulated to
furnishinc~ the addittonal information pertaining to tha cumulative lmpact on
the air quality in the area.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Mr. Gene B. Scott~o~n, President, Envis*_a, Inc., appeared before the Commi~aion
and stated sub;~ect EIR had already been app.roved and he did not feel i~ was
appropriate to be considc~red at this time; however, they w~uld be more than
happy to pravide the information a~ r.equested from the Air Pollution ContrUl
Uiatrict eince it was not sQCret in~ormation.
Upon i.nquiry of Chairman Gauer, Mrs. Da.n~.~dorf stated the ~seociat'on was happy
about the R-H-10,000 de~relopment proposa.l because it had been a long time since
they had seen that type development.
In repl;~ to questioning by~ the Commission :regarding the requssted va.riance,
Mr. Schwartze advised there was a substantial grad~ differential af the five
lots that Y~ould be rea.ring oii an arterial highwax.
Commiasioner Herbst offered Resolution No. PC74-64 and movod for i*_s passage
and adoption to grant Petitinn for Variance No. 2559, granting Waiver a on the
basis that the five lots within the propased subdivision which would side-on
an arterial highway w~ie at elevations 7 feet to 40 feet abave an arter.ial
highway, and would have no comme.rcial intent; that Waiver b was withdrawn by
the petitior~~r.; and subject to conditions. (See Reaolution. Boaky
On ro11 call, the for.egoing resolution was passed by the fo'llowir-g vQte:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Compton, F'arano, Herbst, ~~hnson, King, Mor.ley, Gauer.
NOES: CU1~9MISSIONERS: None.
P-~SENT: (:OMMISSIONERS : None.
Com~missioner Herbst of.fered a motinn, seconded by Commissioner Morley anc~
MOTION CARRIED, to approve Tentative Map o.f Tract No. 8463, eubject to tr,e
following conditions:
(1} That the approval of Tentativ~ Map af Tract No. 8463 is granted
subject to the approval of Reclassification No. 73-74-46 and
Variance No. 2569.
(2) That should this aubdivision be developed as more than one sub-
division, each aubdivision thereo£ shall be submitted in tsz~ta-
tive form for approval..
(3) That all lots within this tract shall be serve~i b} nnderground
utilities.
(4) That a final tract map of subject property ~hall be submitted to
and approved by the City Council and then be recorded in the
af£ice of the Orangp County Recorder.
(5) xhat s~reet nam~s ehall be appr.ove~ by the City o~ Anaheim prior
~o ~pproval of a fina2 traat map.
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M~NUTES, ~"[TY PL~INNING COMMISS:LON, Max~ch 18, .L9?4 74~160
ENVIRONMENTAL JMPACT REPORT N0. 1.10, RECLP.SSIP'iCA'rIQ~1 N0. 73-74-•31, VAR~A,~'VC~
NO. 2569, AND TFN'~ATIVE MAP UF TRACT NOS. B463,_8d64y 8465, AND H466 (Cont'd~?
(6) That ~he owner(s) c~f subject praparty ~hr~ll pAy to hhe City o~
Anah~im the apprapri.ate par.k ancl r~creation in~-lir~u fees as
determined to bN appro~riate ~+y tha Cit}- ~'ounoilr eaid fe~QS to
be paid at the time tha building pe~miti ie is~uod.
(7) That drain~ge af aaid ~roperty ~hall bo ~isposPd of in a manner
satisfactory ta t;ie Clty Engineer. Tf~ in Ch~ preparation of
the ssite, au.fffcient grading ia required to neaessi.t~te a qradiriq
pQrmit, no work on grading will be p~rmitted between Oct~ber 15th
and Apzil 15~h t;nloss all xequired of.f~site drdinaqe facil~.ties
have be~n installed and are operative. Poeitive assurance ehall
be provided *,he City that auch drainRge~ faci].ities will be com-
pleted pricr t~.o October 15th. Necessary right-of-way for of~-eite
clrainage facili.tios ~halt be dedicated to the City, or the City
Council ahA21 hr~v~ initiated condomnati.on proceedings thQrefor
(the cosi:s of wlzi ti ahall be borne by the developer) prioz to
c~mmencoment af grading operatians. The r~,aLir.~d drainage Pacili-
ties ahall be of a size and ~ype suffi.r,i~nt to carry runoff wat~rs
originating from hiqher pr~.P~rtiea through ~aid property to ulti-
mate dian~~sal as approved by the City ~ngineQr. Said drainage
facilities ~hal~ be the first item o£ aonstrtci:ion and aha11 be
completed and be functional throuqhout the tr,~ct and fram the
downstream baundary of the prope~ty to the uli:imate point of dis-
posal prior to the issuanc~ o£ any final build.ing iz~spection~ or
occupancy permits. Drainaye diatr.ic~ reimburaement agreements may~
be mauc availabl~ to the deve'lopers of said propexty upon their
request.
(8) That grading, excavation, and all other construction activiti~s
ahall b~ c~-nduc~ed in such a manner so ~~ to minimiza the possi.-
bili4:y o£ any silt origin3ting f.r~m this project being carried
into the Santa Ana River Ly atorm water originating Erom ~r flow-
ing through tYiis project.
(9) Thai: fire hyd.rants shall ~P installed and charged as required and
determined to be nec~ssary by the Chief. of the Fire Departsnent
prior to conunencement of structural framing.
(10) That in accordance with City~ Council policy, a 6~foot masonry wall
shall be constructed on the north property line separating Lot
Nos. l, 5, 6, 11 and 14 and Canyon Rim Road. Reasonab].e landscap-
ing, inclv3ing irrigation facilities, sha11 he installed in the
uncemented portion of the arterial high~aay parkway the full dis-
tance of said wall; plans for said ].andaapinq to be submi~ted to
and subject to the a~,proval of the Super.intendent of Parkway
Maintenance. Following installation and acceptar.ce, th~ Ci.ty oE
Anaheim shall as3ume the responsibility for ma3.ntenaiice o£ said
landscaping.
(11) That all air-conditioning facilities shall be properly ~hie~ded
from vi~w, and the sound buffered from adjacen~ p~-operties.
Commissi.oner Herhst of:ered a mation, seconded by Commissioner Mvrley and
MOTION CARRIED, to approve Tentative Map of Tract No. 8464, subject to the
f~llowing conditions:
(1) That the approval of Tentati.ve Map of Tract No. 8464 is qranted
su'~iect to the approval of Realassification No. 73-74-45 and
Variance No. 2569.
(2) That should this subdivision be developed as more than one sub-
divisi~n, each subdivision ~hereof shall be submitted in. tenta-
tzvF form for approval.
~3) That all lots within this tract shall be served by underground
utilixie.s .
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MINUTES, CTTY PLM~,NNTN6 COMM.LSSI:UN, Maxah 18, 1,974 74e~a,61
E;NVZRONMENTAL IMPAC'~ REPORT N0. 110, RECI,ASFZF~CATXON NO. 73-74-3]., VARIRNCF.
N~. 2569, ANU T~NTATIVE MAP fJF.T~tACT NAS. 9463~ 8464~ R465, ANU 846b (Corxt'd.)
(4) Thnt a final tract map of aubjc~ot property sha11 be suk~mitted to
and Appr.oved by the Gity Couno~.l iand then be recorded in tha
offiae of th~ Orange County Reaozdor.
(5) That street namea shall be approved by ~h~ City o~ Anahei.m prior
to approval of a final traat map.
(6) 7'hat the awner(s) of subj~sct. property shal~. ~F~y to the City of
Anahej.m the appr.opriate park and xecrAation in-~.iou feea ns
datermined to be appropriate by the City Counci~., sai.d Pa~as to
bQ paid ut ~hh~ i:ime tha bui7.ding p~rmit is .iseuad.
(7) That drainage of said property shall be disposed of in a mailner
~atiefactory t.o th~ City Engi.neer. Ify in the pxeparation o~
the stte, sufficient grading is roquir~d to nc~ce~sltate a gradinq
p~rmit, no work on grading will be permitted between Or.~ober 15th
and April 15th unless a11 required off-site drainage facilities
have been ins~alled and are cperative. Pasitive assuraace sha11
be providec~ the C.i~y that auch dra.tnage ~aa~lities wi~.~ be com-
pleted prior to Oct.obQr 15th. Necessary right~o~-way Pnr of~-site
drainage facilities shall be dedicated to the City, or the CitX
C~unci.l sha11 have i.nitiated condemnation procsedings thereEor
(the costs af which shall be b~rne by th~ devalopex) ~r~.c+r to
commencement of grading ope~.dtions. Th~ required dra~.nage facili~
ties shall be of a si.ze and type sufficient to ca,rry runo~~ waters
originating from higher properties through said ~ropex~y to ulti-
mate disposal as appraved by the City Eng~neer. Said drainage
facilities shall be the first item of cor~struction and sha1~ be
completed and be functional throughout the tra~t and ~rom thE
downstxeam boundary of the property to the u],timate po~.nt o~ d~.s-
posa:_ prior to thc i3suance of any final bu.ilding inspect~.on~s or
._• occupancy p~rmits. Prainage district reir~bursement agz'eements may
be made availabl«; to the developera af said property uQon their
request.
(8) 'Pha~ grading, excavation, and all other construction ac~ivities
shall u: conduc~e~~ in such a ma.nner so as to minimize the possi-
bility of any silt ori.ginating from thfs project being carxied
into the Santa Ana River by atorm water origtnat:ing from or flow-
ing through this project.
(9) That fire hyclrants shall be installed and charged as required and
determined to ~e necessary by the Chief af the Fire Depar*..ment
pri~~r to commencement of structural framing.
(10) That in accordance with City Council policy, a 6-foot masonry w~ll
shall be constructed on the nor~h property line separating Lot
Nos. 1 through 8 and Canyon Rim Road. Reasonable landscaping,
including irrigation faci?ities, shall be installed in the un-
cemented portion of the artierial highway parkway the ful~ d,istance
of said wall~ plar~s for said landscaping to be submitted to and
subject to the approval of ~9 Super.intenden~ of Parkway Mainte-
nance. Fallowing installation and acceptance, the Gity of Anaheim
shall assurne the responsibility far maintenance oY saiQ landscaping.
(11) That a second access to Canyon Rim Road sha11 be constructed
through the property easterly of subject traat concurren~kly with
the improvements for subject tract. This street sha11 ~~ltimately
be constructed in accardance with the City of Anaheim standards
for a Hillside Co~i~cicor.
(12) That all air-conditioning facilities shall be properly shielded
from view, and the sound buffexed from adjacent properties.
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MxNUTF5, C:[TY PI~AIJNTNC COMMISSION, March l~, 19''4
74-16?.
ENVIRONMENTAL IbIFACT EtEPO[tT NO. 110, RECLASSIFICATIUN N0. 73-74-3'l, VARIANCE
N~ 569 ,_ AND TENTAmiVE MAP or TFUICT N SO . 8A63_, 8,464 `(34G5, AND 8466 (cont"d. )
Commi.H-ioner [Iorbat ofFazed a motion, aeronded by Cammiasioner Morley and
MOR~ION CARltiLf), t:a npprove Tontative Map of Tract No. 8465, subjec~ to the
following conditior~s:
(1) That the approval of Tentative Map ~f Tzact No. 8465 ig grunted
subject to tho uri;~roval of Rc~c:laseificr~tion No. 7:~-74-46 and
Variance No. 256y.
(2) That should L".1119 subdivision be dsveloped as more than otiF• aub-
division, each aubdivision thereuf ehal.l be submi.tted in tenta-
ti.ve form for approvrzl.
(3) That all lots within this i:ract ahall be aerv~d by underc~round
utili~ies.
(4) That a final tract map of subject prap~rty ahall be submitted to
and appxuved by the City Council and th~n be recorded in the
office of the Orange County Rec~rd~r.
(5) Th~t atreet names shal.l be approv~d by the City o£ Ac~aheim priar
to approval c~f a final tract m~p.
(6) ~rhat the owner.(s) of subject proper~y shall pay to the City oP
Anatieim the appropriate park and recreation in-lieu £ees as
determined to hr appropriata by the City Council, said ~ees to
b~ paid at the time the bui.lding permit is issued.
(7) That drainage of said property sha11 be disposed of. in a manner
satisfactory ~o the City Engineer. If, in tre preparatiun of
the site, sufficient grading is required to ,~ecessitate a grading
permit, no work on yrading will be permitt~d between October 15th
and April 15th unless a11 required ~ff-site drainage facilities
have been installed and are operative. Positive assurance shail
be provided the Ci~y that sueh drainage tacilities will be com-
pleted prior to Oc~.ober 15th. Necessary r.ir~ht~of-way for of..f-site
drair.age facilities shall be dedicated to the City, or the City
Counci.l shall have initiated condemnation proceeding~ therefor
(~he costs of which shall be borne by the devetoper) prior to
commencen,;~nt of grading operakions. The required drainage facili•-
ties shall be of a size anc~ type suff~.cient to cari-y runoff waters
originating from high2r properties through said property to uli:i-
ma~e disposal as approve~ by Lhe City Engineer. Said drainage
.facilities shall be the first item Qf aons'~r~tctiAn end shall bF
completzd and be functional throughout the tract and from the
dcwnstream boundary of the property to the ultimate point of dis-
posal prior to the issuance af any f.inal building inapections or
-~-- occupancy pprmits. Drainage dis~rict r.eimbursement agreements may
be made available to the developers of said propEr.ty upon their
reqaest.
(8) That grading, excavation, and a~l other c~nstruc:tion activities
shall be conducted in suc:~ a manner so as to minimi.ze the possi-
bility ef any silt originating from this project being carried
into the Santa Ana River by storm water originating fr.om or flow-
ing through th~s project~
(9) That fire hydrants shall be installed and charg~d as required and
deternti.ned to be necessarx by the Chief of the Fire Departmer+:
prior to commer.cement of structural framing.
(10) That the alignment of t.he storm drain wi~hin the golf course shall
bs approved by the City of Anahea.m. Constructinn c£ said storm
drain shall be accomplished with no inter''erence with ~lay on the
golf rou~se.
(11) Tr.at aZl air~conditioning facilities sl:ail be properly shielded
from view, and the sound buffered fron, adjdcent properties.
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MINUT~S, CITY PI,T.NNING COMMISS?UN, March 18, '1974 74-163
ENVIRONM~,NTAL IMPAGT REPUR'f NO. 110, FIECLASSIFIGATI4N NO. 73-74-31, VARIANCE
N0. 2569, ~1ND TF;I~TAmIVI: M}1P OF TRACT NOS. 84C3. 846n., 84G5, ANA 8465 (ConL•'d.)
Commissi~ner Herbst offarec~ a m~~ion, secona~d by Commiaoi~ndr Marley and
MOTION CARRIED, to approve Tent kive Ma~ of Tra~t No. 8466~ subject to the
fo~lowing conditinns:
(1) That the approval of Tentative Map uf 'lr.act No. 8~66 is grented
subj~c~ to the approval of Reclaasification No. 73-74-46 And
Variance Nu. 2569.
(2) That Qhould this subdi~•ision ba developed aa mnre than one sub-
division, each ~ubdivision thereoE shall be submittec~ in tenL•a-
tive form for a~prUVt~l.
(3) That all lats within this tract ahalZ b~ aerved by underground
utilities.
(4) That a ftnal tract map of subject. property shall be st,thmittoc~ to
and approvPd by the Ci.ty Council and thon be recorded ir, the
offlce ~` the Orangca County Recarder.
(5) Tht~t street names shall bF approveci by the City of Anaheim prior
ta approval af a fina'1 tract map.
(5) That the owner(s) of subject property shall pay to the Ci.~y o~
Anaheim the apprnpriate park ana r~creation in-liEU fecs as
determined to be appropriate by tne City Council, said fees to
b~ paid at the time the building permit is issued.
(7) That drainage of said p.roperty shall he disposed uf in a manner
~atisfactory to the City E~gineer. If, in the preparation of
th~ site, sufficient grading is requ~.red t~ necessitate a graaing
permit, no work on grading will be pei-mitted between Oc~o~er 15trx
a~d ~~ril 15th urless all reguired o£f-sitP drainage facilities
have been znstalled nnd are operative. Positive assurance shall
be provided the City that such drain;~ge fa~ili.ties will be com-
pleted prior to October 15th. Neces~ary right-of-way for off-site
drainage facilities sh.all be dedica*.ed to the City, or the City
Council shall have initiated condemnation prr,c~edings therefor
(the costs of which shdll be borne by the developer) prior to
commencEment of grGding operatians. T:~e required drainage facili-
ties shall be of a size and type suffic.ient to carrl~ runoff waters
originating from higher properties throuqh said properLy to ul~i-
mate disp~sal as approved by the City Engineer. Said drainage
facilities shall be the first item of canstruction and sha11 be
completed and be functional throughout the tract and from the
dowr.stream bounaary ef the pr~perty to t~e ultimate point of dis-
pasal prior to the issuance of any final buildin3 in~pPCtions or
accupancy pern~its. Drainage district reimbursement agreements may
be made availab.le to the d~velopers of said pr~perty up~n their
request.
(8) That fir~ hydr.ants sha~l be install.ed and cl:arged as required and
deterntined to be necessary by the Chief of the Fiie Department
prior to commencement of structural framing.
(9) That gradinq, excavation, and all othex construction act-ivities
shall be conducted in such a manner so as to n-ir~imize th~ poss~-
bility of any silt originating rrom this project be~ny carried
into the Santa Ana River by storm water originatzng from or flow-
ing through this ;~rojecte
(10) That all air-conditioning facilities shall be properly shielded
from view, and the sound buffered from adjacent prcperties.
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MiNUTGS, CITY PL11NNZNG COMP1ISS10N, March 18, 1974 74-•1G4
I,NVIRUNMENTI~Ia IMP1~C'I` - CnNTINUrD PUfJLI~ 1iFARING. I711YMGNA SYrNAR, 913 P~tlama
l2EPORT N0. 118 Plnect, Fullerton, ~'ri. 97635, Ownort reZue~tin,y WAIVFR
.._..~...._~.._..__._ _ ~F (A) TYPGr OF PCiu~t['rTED SIGN, (H) P~R.MTTTL~D C-J. I7SES,
VARIANCE N0. 2580 (C) Ft~QUiRFN~N'1~ TNn r!, SERVICF 5TAT70N AE LOCA7'EU NOT
Y~ ~~~~ CI,QSER 7'f[AN 75 F'rET TO 11 k,^SIbENTIAL Z~JNE, (D) MINSMiJM
STRUC'rUR}lL SF'PDACK AI)JACENT TQ l2E3IAFNTII~L 7UNE, (F)
M'[NIMUM ~1NUSC]1PFU 5~'TBACK AD~TACENT TO REuIUENTI1lL ZON:., (F) REQUIREMFN'.C THAT
A SERV7C'E STA'rTON DE INx~GRAT~Q WITH A SiIOPPING CENTER, (G) MINIMU2~ STRUCTURAL
SFTIIACK AnJnCFNT TO ARTRItIAL 1iICFiWAY, (H) MINJMUM LANDSCAPE S~TBACK AT.kTACENT
Tn ARTERIAI, H.[G1iWAY, 11Np (I) MINTMUM SCRF~N I,1~NASCIIPING ADJ'ACEN^ TO R~SIAEN'PI11I,
20N.r^. , TO ESTAl3I~ISfi A CARWASH AND SEP.VICE STA'PION on property dASCribed acs c An
~ rregulurly-~hapc~d pAZCOl of. ~.anc~ con~isting of appr.oximately . fi5 acres locatad
at the northe~ast corner af La Palrna Avanuc and Impori.al Hi<Jhwmy, having a front-
age of z~r~i•oximdt~ly 248 feet on ::hc~ north side of La Palma Avenue and a~~proxi-
mately ].40 feet on ths east side of Imperial Highway. Property ~reseTit.1X
classific.d C-1, G~NF.I21-T, C;OMMERCIAi,, ZONE (SC, SC:ENIC CORRI[N~R OVI;FtIJ\Y ZONE) .
5ubjec~ potition was cai~t~.inued froi., the meeta ng of. Marah 4, 1974 foz Auk~mission
of rc~visecl ~,1ans.
No ~ne appoared .in oppa~i.tion to ~ubject aetitiom.
Alth,~uqh the 5t~i'f. RP.~Uit to the Planning Commission dated March 18, 1974 wa3
not .read at th~ pub.l.tc hearti~g, it is referred to and rnade a part of. the
minut.es .
btr.. Ray Spe:har, th~ pP~ltioner, appeared befure the Commissioz~ and stt-tQd h~
was reque~tiliy thzt ths Commisston vote on the subject variance and no+: c~n-
sider. a poq~ponem~:nt; that it was his understa;zdi.ng fzom the potontial pur-
chassr that any cY~anges would make the proposal unreasonable and tYiere was an
~ption in the purchase contract t.o abta3.n a varianae; thdt there was no ques-
~ion in his :nind that if he had a~poaled th~ potential Plt~nnin•.; Commission
deci.eior~ from tlie meeL-ing of March 4, 1.974, that that would havo delayed the
matter; how~ver, as a r.esult of that meeting, ~everal. cllanges were being mad~.
Mr. Spehar then discuss~~ the waiver~ being requested; that Waive;r a was
necessary and althougr ~. ~e~stand~ng signs were not rermitted 1.n the Scenic
Carriclor Zone, identification was ~.eeded as well as retentiUn af the company
image; that ~hey had submitted a plot plan and reduced the hefght of the top
of t},e propose3 sign to 25 feet to ma.tch wh~-~t was allowed for the service
sta~ion operation acroas the streetj that :Pgarding Waiver b, he stated that
when he originally aought informat~_~n from ti.e Flanning Department, k~e was
advised that service stations would automatically be allowed cn thp corner
pronerties and the sarvice station was then nroposed with the R-~ adjoi.ning
to the north and he was further advised that the _arvice statiun ~cvas an appro-
priatL uae of the property; thst Waivers d, e, h and i wer~ witlCrawn as they
were no lan~er necessary; that reg4rding Waiver f, a 3hoppinc~ cent.er would be
cunstructed with~n two years ~~id they were pzaposing a~all between the car-
wash and the slio~ping cent~r only because of the possible problem with car
controZ; that regar.ding i~'aiver g, the canopy proposed was not defined as a
building strur.ture but a~ortian of a building i:hough it was not attached to
any build~ng an3 not a whole building in itself; and that the Cade section
referred to a whole building, and further.moxe, a similar situatiun with a
canopy had been approved for the service station across the street.
THE PUBLIC H.,.~RING WA~ CLOSED.
Upon inquiry of C~r<<missioner Herbst, Mr. Spehar indicated in the affirmat.ive
that he was the owner of ~che pr.operty acr.os~ the 3treet which was subdiviaed
for a service station use.
Co.*,-anissioner •~rbst noted that it appeared that bec~us~ the City Council l:ad
yranted the service stntion use on the one corner ~roperty in the i.mmediate
vicinit~ that the property owner f.e.lt he was entitled to another ~imilar
applica~ion; that he recalled that the previous apPlication was filed juat
prior to the eff.ective ciate of the Saenic Cor~idor Ordinance and the peti-
tioner was st.5stantially into negotiations fur the pr~psrtya that the Planning
Commission had denied that petitior. an3 it was subsequently approved by the
City Council; that the Commission took the position that by approving ttiat
M:.:dUTEC, CITY PL:INNING COMMISSTON, March lA, 1:' 4 74-165
~NV.RONMENTAL IMPACT R~PORT N0. 118 AND'VARIANCE NO. 2580 (Gontinued)
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petition the wozk don~ ~o protr~ct th~ Scenic Corri.dor would be harmodt that
~.f free-etanding signe were rllowed, the Cii:y wrould loee ite idamti.~.y in the
Scenic Corric9orj that inaemuch Aa the peti.tioner wa~ qranted one vdrie~nce
from the Sc~nic Corrf dor. ~rdinence, ha did not quite uncYerstanc9 why tha peti-
tiAnar £eit he tivao en tit.led to dnother= that the prnpoeal wae not intagxated
with a ehoppinq conta rt nnd thnt approval o~ ~lia eubjec~ Peti~ion for Variance
No. 2580 wou1~9 eet an undaei.rabl.e proaedent ~n the Scenio Corxidor Z~n~.
Mr. Spehur ~tated that the ~roposc~d Arco statian was really an im~rovc~ment as
fnr as aervioe stat lone were concerned; that 14 g~+et nf le~nclscbpinq was j~ro-
poead on both I,r~ Falma Avenue ~xnd Tmporial Highwr~y and it would be a~n asset
to the~ areaj and that the propaAed aiqn wae not too large.
Ccmmissianer Herbst notod th~-~t the SLato w~~a very ap.~cific regarding the
Saenic Corridor and w ith variances as requoate3, the City might f±nd i~self
no longyr entitled to State protection.
Upon 3uaetioning by Conunieeioner King, Mr. Spehar stipulated to cons~xuati.n~
a shopping center ~d}oining thE proposed use within a two~year period.
Deputy City Attorney Frank Lowry advi,sed that thc forec~oing at~.pula~ion could
nc~k be utilized in any manr~er ar.ci waa, in ef.fect, uselesa.
In reply to questioni ng by Commissioner King, Mr. Spshar indicated tha~ the
service stati~n would be separated fr~m ~khe shopping aenter by a 6-Poot wa11.
Zoning Supervisox Ch a rles Roberts advised that to be an integr~], part oP a
ahopping center, the service station would need to have froe m4vement to the
shopp~ng center anci n at be backed up ro s highway.
Mr. Spehar stated ~t might be possible to remove the wall, however, it would
not appear to be good bus; nFS~s to do so.
Cummissioner :;erbsti added to hie aarlier. remarks that in view of the Pact
that the petitioner had already bAen allowed a varlance he shoulci be w~].ling
to live within the ardi.nance; and that aaother probler~ to be consi.l~ere~ in
L•he Scenic Corridor was roof-mounted equipment.
Conunissioner Herbst offered a motion, seaonded by Commiss3oner Iting and MOTION
CARRtED, that the Plar~ning Commission recommends that the City C~uncil. certi-
£y to hav~ng reviewed and considered the information conta~.ned in E~ivironmental
Impact Report No. 118 and that the final EIR had been completed in compliance
with the California Environmental Quality Act anfl ~he State Guidelines.
G~mmissioner Herbst o~fered Resolution No. FC74-65 and moved Por its passage
and adoption to deny Petition for Variance No. 25Q0 on th~ bas~.s oP the Pore-
going findings. (Se~ Regolution Book)
On roll call, the foregoi,~g resolution was passed b5~ the tollowing voi:e:
AYES : COI~Nl3SSIONERS : Compton, r'azano, Herbst, Johnson, King, Morl.~y, ~auer.
NOES: COMMISSlONERS: Nane.
ABSENT: COMMISSIONE RSa None.
COMMISSIONEft FARAI~TO LEFT THE NI~;ETING AT 4:55 P.M.
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NC[NUTES, C,ZxX PI,ANNING COMMISSxON, bte~rch 18, 1974 74-1f ~
L~NVTi:ONMENTAL IMPACT - PUBLIC HEA~2ING. HENRY 1'. AND FTHEL C. DEL G'[ORGIU,
ItEPORT NO. 120 2535 Weet La Pa1ma Avenue, Annheim, Ca. 92801, Ownerat
,
~~~ w '1`I~E MaCA~'1'HY COir1PA1VY OF SOU'!'H~RN CALIT'01tN:[A, c/o E. R.
ftECLA~STF'xCATION Full~r, 2~35 Weat La Palma Avenue, Anr~heim, Ca. 92801,
NG. 73-74-49 Agant. Pzoperty de~cribocl ae: 1u1 irrog~xlaxly-~haped
~ pnrcdl nf lnn~ con~isting ~f approximdtely 62.5 acres
T~'NTATIVE MAP OF l.c~ca~ed southerly of Sa~1tr~ And Cdri~-Qtl ROACl~ appraxi-
TRACT N0. 85G0 ~~~ately 7800 Pe9t east of Imperial t{ighway. Property
~ ~ pr.oRently cla~si.fied R-A., AGRICUI.TURAL, ZONE.
Ft~CLASS:[FtCATION R~QUES~': :-:i-i0,000, RESIDE~ITIAL HII,LSIDE, LOW-DENSTTX,
SINGI.E-FAMILY, ZONE.
TENTATIVE TRACT IiEQUEST: ENGINEER: WILLAAN ASSOCZATES, 125 South Claudina
Street, Anaheim, C:a. 92R05. Sub~ect proporty ie
proposQd for guk~diviaion int~ 99 R-H-10,000 zoned
lots .
Deputy City Attorney Frank I~owry advised that it was the r.ecommendation nf
the City Attorney's Offic~ and the ~ngineering Division that the public hear-
ine~ on subject netitions, a9 well as the pub'lic liearinq for Conditional Lise
Pc~rmit No. 145?, be contiriued gendi.ng receipt of information regardinq the
dam lacated on the aub ject property heneuth which approxim~~tely 30 hom~s were
pro~osed to be consi:ruatea, in view of thQ potentiul liabi],i.ty which might be
incurred .
Office Engineer Jay Titus advis~d that the Enqineering Uivision wnuld rQCOm-
mend t.hat if the auk~ ject tract was approved by the Commiasior~ that a oondition
be placed on it that a geoloyical report be submitted to pr~vi.de e~ecific
i.nfo:mation to the City Engineer prior t~ approval of the fina~, tract map.
Approximate].y 12 persona ind~.:ated their presence in opposition to sub ject
petition.
AaQistant Zoni.ng Supervisor Phi~lip Sc,: artze read
Plan~ing Commissinn 3ated March 18, ].974, and ~aid
to as if set foz~th in full in the minutes. Mr. Scl
received From Radney and Patricia Lee and a letter
oppos:Ltion to subject petition . It was a~.sc noted
received from t: e Santa Ana Canyon Property O~~~n~rs
Gaylord.
the Sta!.f Raport to the
Staf.f Report is referred
zwartze alan xead a telegram
from Art Reynolda, both in
that let~.era had been
Assoaiation and I~r. Sam
Mr. Bernard Smith, President of t~e Southern California Divisian of T.he
McCarthy Company, appeared before tht~ Commission and stated ~he propoaed
subdivision was unique; that The McCarthy Company was an environment$llp a,.u
ecologically concezned developer; that .they ]zoped the proposed concept wou].cl
set a pracedent for futur~ development in the ~rea; that tho devel~pment w:,uld
be compatible with the Mohler ~rive Study Ar.ea which would prevent i~ ~rom
becoming an i.: ~ and situation; that they were trying to preserve the rur.al.
f~eling an~i effect in the area; that the proposed develo!~ment would be con-
sistent -ai..n the iiatural terrainj t.hat the construction wc,~~ld be a~ong the
lines of all radwaod F iding type hames f that the groposed grading oP thQ si.te
would be neg'ligible in terms of yardage, as there would be approximately
25,000 to :i0,000 cubic yards of. ear.th involved whiah wou.ld be incidental
grading for the sitP~; that they in no way intended to pad out the si.tes but
to huild to the sites as they ~teod, preserva.ng all of the fol~.age and wind-•
breaks possible, and removing only ~h~se tr~es that were absolutely necessary
to make way for the construction; that in requesti.ng the R-H-10,000 factor
they arrived at a density oF 1.5 units per ac;re ~s opposed tu 2 units per
acre an R-H-22,000; and that there was a considFrabla amount of ogen space
that was unable to be developed in the program.
Mr. Ban Rowland, architect, 1000 West La Palma ~lvenue, Anaheim, appeared before
the Commission and presented Xenderings of the proposal and ~tated that the
program had been discuased formalZy and infur.mally with all members of ~he
City Interdegartmental Coinmittee, the Orange Unified School Distric;t, and
interestecl home~wn~rs groups in the Canyon areaj that the Mohler Drive Study
Area would be a big help to the ~leveloper in that i:, would enable the S~aff
to look a+. its value as a dr.velopment rather ti.~n a statiatict that eo far
MZN~1T~8, t'.:[TY PraANNING COMMISSION, Mar~, i R, 197A 74-167
ENL'IKONI~NTAL IMt>ACT REp01?T N0. 120, It~CLA~STI'TCATION N0. 73-74-49, AND
TEN'~AT~V'k; MAP OF '~'RACT NO. 8560 SContinued~_ ~
therc~ had been no development in the er~a thut ~~.tilized the gc~ography as i~
existedt that with the ~ro~osal ~he CIeVAlU~6Z' Pc~~in'', it rather difficult ta
determine hia coetA in advanceJ that if mass y, rdages of so1l were being
moved the CU8~~4 cuuld bo determinecl more readily, however, they were prapos-
ing to develop un the natural cont:oura aE the land uaing a modified grade
b~am ~znd pi].i.ng system and the houeQS would be built ~:p il~~m a variety of
slopes to meet the laval af the wooden floors and i.t was quite diYfir,ult to
determine ~he co~ts on an individuul basi.s; that ~he: McCarthy Company,
fortunat9ly for Anaheim, was willing to undertake the subject project.
Chairman Gauer noted that eince the City hacl recQived a letter from the U. S.
A.rmy Corps oE Engineera regarding thQ dam, he was sure there woulr~ have to be
some a:surance ae to th~ a~nditions that would pravail if i:he dam was kopt in
ita pressnt statE.
Mr. kowland statec~ from a personal liab.ili•ty standpoir~t he ahared the Plan-
ning Commie~ion's conaern regarding ~he d~m and he cau~.d assure the Commis-
sion as an individual pract~itianer that thare would be nothing built below
the dam t.hat the subject pr~perty was connected with without the certifiaatian
of. a cump~tent go~z~gist and soils ~iigineer and hydraulic epecialiat~ ro advis~
that any suctl problem l~ad been ~liminatedj that th.ta was a natural wa~er
course aixd the area ther~s would not be sub ject to the type of Elanding antici-
pated iE in fact the dam gave way; that be~ause of the to~ography and the grade
t:,ey really did not have a volatile situation and were ~afe because of the low
level= that ~he dam was so sma7.1 that it. did not qualify f~r State jurisdic-
tion as a dam and the State inspecta everyt2iing that h~s as much as a 25-PoAi-.
fHCC and 15-acre fee~ of water; that the highest Faint of eartY~ retainage on
the dam waa approximately 12 feet and the depth of water probably would aver-
ag~ from 4 to G feet and th ere was not a tremendous problem to begin w ith;
that tr,e fact it was a body of water and was imponded made it significaiit;
that they were aski.ng for every consideration that any other property received
i.n that soil tests were not requested ahead of zoning; that a soil investiga~
tion would cost from $6,000 to $10,000 just ~o determine what tho prob lems
were; that they had been assured ln an informal manner by a compe~ent firm of
engineers that they had an iiisignificant ~roblem, however, they did not have
tlie statistics ta baak that information :~or would the develo~er be willing to
invest tr.at kind of money for soil investigation on property that they did
not have zoning far; that th~y had stipulated and were willinq ~o acceot any
reasonable condition that b~~il~ing permi.ts not be issued unti.l the City was
satisfied that the body of water was in place and would stay there.
Mr. Lowry adviaed tha~ h~~ had ta].ked with the City Enqineer during the reading
of the Staff Report and it would appear that such a condition could be worked
out satisfactorily if it was the desire of the Commission and in line with
wh at Mr. Titus and Mr. Rowland had stated.
Mr. Rowland continued by stat•ing their first step in analyzi.ng tha pronPrty
was to orepare a base map which was a t.opographic map shawing in daxk .,cli.nes
the property in question. Mr. Rowland explained the map and state3 tha~c the
body of. water would nut drain toward the subject property but rather toward
the school site to the south; that in order to develop the subject property
they had preparEd a slope analysis and the slopes 10$ to 208 were ~onsidered
buildable; that much of the property was too precipitous to build on without
mass grading; that the windbr~aks on the subject Property would be preserved,
however, the School District had removed one windbreak although The McCarthy
Company had contacted them and tried to have it saved; tt~at t.hey did not in-
tend to dist.~.rb the sycamore grove and ravine which wa~ locatQd to the south-
east; that they wer_•e proposina to ucilize a'_1 af the accesse. ';~cluding
v~hicular and fo~~~ paths on the sub~ect property as it ~ias felt tha~ since
thc property was dEV~loped years before mass grading techniques, probably the
traffic patterns were the easiest to travPrse; that the proposed devel~pmerit
plan was based on the natural contours and vehicular and f~ot paths and in so
doing had eliminated a quarteY-million square Feet from tne developmen t at the
south end of the property in order t~ tie into the preci~e aiignment that was
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~1INUTES, CITY PI.ANNZNG COMM~SSION, M~rch 18, 1974 74-168
ENVIRONMENTAI~ IMF~ACT ItEPQR'r NQ. 120, RECLASS.TFICATTON NO. 7~-79-49, AND
T~NTATIVE MAI~ OF TRAGT N0. 8560 (Continuad)
adopted i~, the Circulntion ElemQnt of the Cenaral Pldnf ttiat they had planned
a procise alignment oE Fairmont Boulevard thAt woulci be th4 leaet damraging to
the propQrty khst th9y could aoej that~ th~re werc~ probdbly peopl~ in tha area
who would like to sae Feirmont dbar~~.luned nr put un eom~ano elt~o's propoz•ty,
but the prop~~ed aliqnment, th~y ielt, conformed it1 every way ta the City
atandards and it could be liv~ ~l witht that they had last about 4U,OOd ~o
50,000 square feet oP the sl~uj~ct property whirh Fai.rm~nt actually crossad
over j that the circulr~tior~ si.mply fr~llowed Del Giorc~iu Road and Mok~ler Drive
WOl11Cj be connected for. ~~ccess; and that tY~e circulAtion would be loopod to k~ep
as much traf£:t.c as poeaible away fiom the school site.
Mr. Rowland continued by stating the propo~ed dwellinge would be constructed
with from 1800 t~ 2700 square feet of floor space; that there would be five
bas~c plana; tha~. they h~d taken advantaqe ~~f the l.and planning and zoninq
provisions of thA City and L18@Cl flag l~ts so that they could have rdmote
houaes that slid down behind other housesj that the lots were varying sizes
and were thought of de building sitAaj that since thQ 65 aares was ~o limited
as fa.r a~ abso].ute bui].dabl~ site, th~y had consUlidated the buildings into
th~ buildable areas ~nd left ttie other areas alone • that each of the houaea
had four distinct elevations wii:ti no front, back oz sides but were treated
uniform.ly througtiout because they had ta be; that eome people wauld be look-
ing at the backs of houses because o£ the views that were possible; that in
the site plan they had done something very unique and sided each house indi-
vidually for view as well as for topo~raphyt that this particular ~rojec~ had
r~ceived more care than any development that he knew of for as small as it was;
that there were 99 units propnsed un the 65 aares; that the de~~elopment would
be ^onstructed in three phases; that Phase I was i.n the middle of the prajec~;
~hat thPre would l~e a minimum of six parking space3 per ~init and each unit would
have a three-car garage; and that Phase II was the uppermost part of the pro~-
erty. In conclusion, Mr. Rowland stated regarding density that the p~oject
was well under R-H-22,000; that at t.he time the propsrty was ann~xed to the
City, a portion was zoned in the Caunty f~r '10,000-square foot lots; and that
the s i tes were adequate for what the developer wan+-.ed to do.
Mr. P hillip Jou-jon Roche, Presi.dent, Santa Ana Canyon Property Uwner~ Assor.i-
ation, appeared before the Commission and stated the Association had met with
The McCarthy Company a couple of~times during the past two months; that the
prc~po s al had been reviewed in detail by himself and a number of the other
membe r_.; that the Association was founded about four years ago for the main
purpo se of preserving a rural atmosphere i.n the Mohler Drive, Del. Giorgio
and E ucalyptus area; that about 20$ of the peuple living in the area ~wned
horse sf that the area was quite rural with. narrow tree-lined streets, etc.,
and tYie people liked it very much= that the aspects o£ the propc~~^d dpvelop-
ment which th~ people liked was the approaLti of minimal grading, saviny all of
the trees they could although they would like to hear a little more about how
many trees woiil.d actually be removed, and the narrow private streets that fit
in wi th what existed at the present time; that there was some mentfon of
egues trian trails in the EnvironmEntal Impact Report arid he would like to
hear inore about how those would tie in with the e:cisting trails and also ~.:he
trail s that Anaheim Hills had proposed; that the p.reserved open sp3ce was a
nice feature although he questioned how the developer would guarantec ~his
since another map he hac~ reviewed showed the entire area z~ned as R-H-10,000;
that there needed to be som~ guarantee that the 23 acres of open space would
be other than R-H~10,000 and it appeared that it might be left open for devel-
opment other than open space; that regar.ding the loL• sizes, which was the key
issue, the present zorie in the area was R-H-22,000 and a good deal of thp area
was developed R-H-22,OU0; that R-H-22,000 pr~ ~rty surrounded the subject
prope rty on about three side~; that in lookiiiy at the detai].s of the lot lay-
out, only 7 c~f the proposed 99 lots actual.ly met the area requirement of the
R-Ei-22,000 2~~ne which had a gross of 22,000 square feet or a net of 19,000
squar~ feeL; that the lot sizes were indicated in his letter to the Commission
in connection with subject petition; that the density for the development of
the area exceeded the dar~aii;y for R-H-22,000 becauae in the develcpable area
the developer was proposing three ~.,~ts per acre average whereas the R-H-22,000
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MINUTEa, CZTX PT~A~INING COMMIS9I~N, March lA, 1974 74-169
~N'VIRANMENTAL Ib«~ACT REF~ORT NU. 120, RFCLASSIFICATION NO. 73-7A-49, ANQ
TENTATIVE MAP OF TR11CT t30. 8560 (Continued)
provided for only ~wo lota per acre= that ano~t~er impurtant ite*~ weB that the
propoeul was th~ first tract pronoaed in tho ar.ea ot:her than Tr~at No. 4i77
which w~-s intercQpted tsy tho School Die~rict p].ans for the :9evc~lo~~ment af E;~.
Rnncho High Sct~ool; that th9,s was thg firat tract with such axtaneiv~ bound-
ari~s with the exiati.ng tt-H-22,000 and ehould it be appxoved in ite pr.es~-n~
form, it would he setting a dangeroua precedont because 1~here wae eubatantial
undoveluped arot~s in thQ immediate Mohler Drive arQa vther than Mr.. Del
Giorgio's pro~Qrtyr thxt tY~ere were aleo sam~ 10 and 15-acre parcels in tha
area that were surroundec3 on nl~oul• three oides by the exiating R-H-22,OOA
properties; that by appr~~~ing tha proposed pro;ject thc~ Commiesion would be
openipg th~ door t~ ath~rs dnd the prasent residents woul~l have a hard time
preaerving the ±ural. atmospheres ~hat the R-H~1U,000 lots wers not bed com-
pared to some of the d~velopmank in the Anahe.im Hills but nestlad right nexl:
to the R-H--22,000 ~hey would be out of context and incomputible with tha
c~xisting dovelopment~ thai: had been established for many ye~r.a wi~h low-
denaity, hali-acre l.ots; that regarding the t.rees that ware removed by th~
School District, he had talked with Mr. Nlntkins, who represanted the Del
Giorglo property in real estate dealings, ~bout the possibility of aaving
those trees if the HomeownPrs Association, The McC~rthy Company t~nd the School
District r.ould come to some a~greement, and the ScY~oo.l Distri.ct seemed somswhat
willing to stop the tree cuttinq and did hold up far a couple uf clays, however,
in talking wi.th Mr. Wai:kins it wae made quite clear tY-at he could realign th~
road and save the trees but ~t the expense of creating even smaller lots on the
adjacent parcel. He concluded by stating that the remainder of the trees
sho~.zld be saved.
Mre. Mary Dinndorf, President, Santa Ana Canyon Im~rovement Association, Inc.,
appeared before the Commission and statQd she had mixed emotions and would
like ta see the R-H-22,000 lots but the proposal was ~n~ of the better pro;iects
she had seen and with more aeathetic values; that with the 23 ~~ares of open
space the development would give ~n illusion of space; that she would like to
see all R-H-22,000 lots if it was economically feasible; and thaL• she really
could not see too m~ny objections from the Association's standpoint concerning
th~ proposal.
Mr. John Oatley, Del Giorgio Road, Anaheim, appeared before the Commission
and inquired concerning the new Fairmont Doulevard whiah would come through
his property and some other. properties in the area as it was pro~osed. He
questioned if the road would be a li.mited access road or one that driveways
could be opened clirectly onto= that at least one home and a few building sites
would be destroyed if the road went t'~rouyh; and would his easement which
provided access to his home be available if Fairmont was constructed as
propoaed.
Mr. TXtus advised that the questions raised by Mr. Oatley could not be answered
at thz present time as it would be a matter af design and alignment; that at
the present timP the City did not have a precise a13.gnment ar a pxecise pro-
file; that The McCarthy Company was pr.oposing an alignment, however, the City
was conducting an a].ignment study; that acce~s ta Mr. Oatley's easement would
have to be worked out at the time of design and there might be aonsiderabl.s
embankment or cut i.n places.
Mr. Sam Gaylo.rd, 7261 Del Giorgio Road, Anaheim, appeared before thp Commission
and stated he wist~ed to bring out that the Anaheim Gener.al Plan provided that
present City policy provided for a transition between various residential
densities meaning a transition from a hig;~-density in one place to a low~-
density in another; that he Qabmitted that the proposal ~vas to build something
between exi3ting identicai cl~nsities as the proposal ~;oulcl be constructed down
th~ middle of an existing R-H-22,OOQ arPa; that another item of conaern was
that the ~.raffic ~lowing From Anaheim Hills ~o the Fairmont extension would
be tr.emendous; that c~ther roads in other area~ leading into schools were not as
heavily traveled as the one in the subject area would be; tr~at the tiaffic
would flow through the housing develapment= that regarding the zones of the
,ubject t~roperty during ths period of annexation, the dividing line between
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MINUTES, CITY PLANNING ~qMN9IS3IQN, March 19, 1y74 74-170
ENVIRONMLNTAL IN~AC7 REFORT NO. 120, RECLASSIFTCAT:i:ON N0. 73-74-49, ANp
TENTATTVE MAP OF TRACT NO. 8560 (Continuad)
R-H-10,000 ~nd R-H-22,U00 waa located furkhex ~outh than aub~ect pxoperty and
+~~ thAt time ~hare was a que~tion rogarding an oxisting half-acre l.ot1 and
t.hat th~ ~ropaeal was boauti°ul excopt far th~ plACement of the hames on the
varioue pad areas.
Mr. Ronald Bevina, attorney, 300 South Harbor i~aul.ovar~l, Anaheim, appeared
before the Commi~aion and 3tatac~ he reprasen~efl Mr. PiQrre Ni.colas, who own~d
approximately 13.3 acras at th~ n~rtl~ nnd wQSt ends of the ~ub~~ct propertyt
that. his c~.ic~nt was objecting initiAlly not to the zone or the plan as pro-
gos9d but to the alignment of Fa~rmon~ Boulevard as propossd= that they w~re
concerned that they had been r~dviaed th~re wns a precige alignment of r'n~irmont
~3oulevard1 that inj.tially ho was adviaed the alignmc~nt would run along Mohler
Drive which would be fairly c~neietant wi~h what had be~n done ~.n tl,e Canyon
and in other cases r~uch aa walnut Canyon turning into Anaheim Hills, etc.T
that there hsd k,een talk about Eucalyptua going ~t~rough which raauld be gAner-
ally a].ong the alignmdnt of Euc~-ly~,tus Hillsi that another alignment had bee~n
cliscusaed that would run generally along Mohler DriveF however., logically, two
atrr~ ~ht lines could be used betwe~n two painte for said alignmentt that the
secondary accesa wauld be an 88-foot wide street equivalent to La Palma Avenuej
that the ali.gnment could ver,y well cross th~ subject propertyf thr~t in dis-
cussion with tY-e Engineering Div~.sion~ he was advi.sed that the ~ctraight linE
method was feasible from an er~gineering atandpaintT that if' the map was approved
and his client came back in with a development and was told that Fairmont was
planned t.o cross his property and if the development went through and the City
carried throuah ~n Fairmont, the need beina created by Anaheim Hill~ ,-~bove,
the ultima~e canclusion of the actian would be to foroe the City to coi,dpmn
his client's property; that he did not think the precise alignment of a major
street should be based or who got there first. or who comp].ained the loudest
but if the street was g~~ng to be put through and actually needed far the
Anaheim Ha.lls development above, a secondary higlzway thr~ugYi the area, would
apen it up and the zoning would have to be compatible; that with the secondaa.y
highway he did not see how the rural atmosphere of the area c~~ld be main-
tained; ~hat the accPS~ street was rnoved ovPr L-o tY~e Del Giorgio ~roperty
because of the complaints oi the Mohler Drive residents and now t.hat they
were propo3inc~ a deve].opmeni:, the street would be runni.ng through his clien~'s
property; that from a leqal standpcsi.nt if the map was adopted it might be a
pu~lic announcement of ~che City's intention to take the Nicolas property and
put riim in a position of inverse condemnation; that he hoped the City would
not choose th~t situation; and that he would sug3est his comments be taken into
consider.aLion by the Commission.
Mr. Smith stated regarding density that~ in rsality, the format used was based
on fihe acreage in the project and would stil]. be 1-1/2 awellin~ units per r~cre
as opposed to 2 dwclling units per acre for R-Ii-22~000 property; that in or.der
to obtain the 2 dwelling unit3 per acre, they would have to masquerade and
would end up with smaller pads because a larger porta.on of the area would have
to be ae~ot~a ~ko massive slope areas which created the standard subdivision
problems of erosion cont.rol, poor planning, elimination of trees and a complete
loss of any natural concept; that the pads an :±-H-22,000 lots, based on some
studies they had made, would in Fact be sma?i.ex than i:he lot sizes being pro-
posed and they were talking ak,~+ut a minimuzt of 1G, 000 square feet:, with an
averaga ~f 13,000 square f.eet and up; that from the standpoint of the Fairmont
Boulevai•d alignment, The McCarthy C~mpany dicl~,~t create Fairmont Boulevard,
however, aft~er much detinitiv~ study through tlleir engineers and in aontact
with the City, they had come up with the alignmEnt which they felt would br-st
serve the needs in the area= that someone was going to get hurt Fron- the align-
ment of. Fairmont and The McCarthy Company was ir.cluded since a c~uarter-million
square feet of usable property was devoted to the proposed alignment; and that
tk~e proposed alignment was done scientifically ~nd fron, an engineering stancl-
point.
THE ~UBLTC HEAKING WAS CLOSED.
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ENVIRUNMENTAL IMPT,C'1' REPOItT N0. 120, R~CLASSIFICATION NO. 73-74-49, AI~p
TENTATIVE MAP OF TRACT N0. 8560 (Continued),_ _
Cnrtm~iasiono.r 1Cing inquired why sa rnuch property was being devoted to the
s~root alignment at tha south end o£ the sut~)ect propexty, and Mr. Row].and
explair-od tltat preciee alignment of. F'dirmont Boulevard to the AnahPim Fiille
~roperty brought tr-a ~trept into a ravineJ that in order to provi8e the radii
that wero necessary far an 88-foot etreet to handle the traffic at the spc:od
angineering requiremc~nta dicta~ed, the stre~t hAd to maintai.n a certain gradual
s1~pP both horizontally and verticallyj and that there was approxim~te~ly 60
feet of vertic-a.l grad~.
Chai.rman Gauer inquired zegar~inc~ tha 23 acrea of <;~en space and tho comment
fr.om Mr. Jou-jon Roohe thst it. might not alrvays remain open s~ac~ but could
possibly be built on, ~ancl Mr. Rowland statod thRt che 23 <«:i~s r~ferrc~d to
enc-~~ •nass~d a body of water and ravine, ar the sh, ~iy-sloped property } that
n~ ~Zg was impoasible to build on although the ae~eloper felt. that property
had n-ure valua to all of the residenta in it~: natural stato in that it wAS a
ceasonable si.ze as a harbor for preditors; and tt~at the open space area with
the body af water would also assist in the rodent control.
Chairmaii Gauer further inquired if the open space would ba maintained through
an associs~tion contract, and Mr. Smith stated The McCarthy Company had na
intention to allow the referencpd 23 acres of open space tc~ b~ developed;
that by dc~ed restrictions in the CC&Rs, th~ developer would guaran~-~e that
that property would rpmain a common ar~a= that they would be wili-..~ to
guarantee its non~develnpment.
Chairman Gauer inquired if the body of water dried up and yrew up with wesds,
wha~. would happen to it then, an~ Mr. Smith stated it would have its natural
character and nothing would be dune about it, and h~ was surP the people in
the area would not want anything to be done about it but woald want it left
in its natural envir~nm~ntal ~tate.
Conunissioner Herbst noted that he had made a field visit to the s~•', ject
property earlier in the day and in looking at the open space it ~ppeared to
carry a tremendous liability; that there was water and very steep banks;
that he could see how the op~n space could be develoQect into a recreational
area; that a lot of work and even a little fill ~ould get rid o~ the lake and
make a football field on the property; that he would question thE feasibility
of the lake in its present state; that the design of ~h~ development was fine
but looking at this particular ope;z space that encompassed the lake, the
liability would be placed with the homeowner~ association which might ~e
detrimental; t~-.at he for one cauld see that a small child could roll down
into the lake; that he had visited the area for the purpose of taking a close
look at the open space and t~o review what type of an open a~ea was being left;
that by accepting the unusable area for the open space, it was trading otf for
the R-H-].0,000 lot; ~hat looking into the future on the particular site, if
th~ open space belonged to th~ homeown~rs association and they did nat accept
the ].iability fnr it, it could becomp a liabilit~ for the City; that the open
space arPa could be developec~ into something more usable for oper. space since
it presently was not usable £or hiking tiai].s or anything of that nature as
he viewed it.
Mr. Smith stated that the conditions which Commissioner Herbst stated existed
had existed for some time; that he could not condone that the area wauld con-
tinue to be dan,qerous; that what was considered to not be usabl.e open space
was subjective because many people would disagree and would pre~er to use the
area in its present state; that they had entered into some preiiminasy dis-
cussion with th~ City and the City had indicated that they would at least
like to discuss the possibiZi.ty of taking the area into a park situation,
howev~r, nothing had been determined along those lin~s and it was The McCarthy
Company position ta keep an open mind for said discussion; that he was not
aware of the involvement or legal problems whicl~ The McCarthy Company or the
association might get involved in with the areat that he would certaiiily dis-
agree that it was not detrimental or unusable as Commissianer Herbst had
indicated.
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MJNUTES~ CXTX PI,ANNING COMMISSION, ~1az'uh 18~ 1974 74-172
F.NVI~ONMENTAL IMPACT It~PORT N0. 120, RECLASSIFTCATI0~1 N~. 73-74~49, AND
TLNTATIVE MAP OF TRACT N0. 8560 (Continued)
Commisaioner l3erbst .further A~ated that he si.ill bE~lieved tha devel~per wan
askinq for a t~radd-off wi.th rcaepect to th~ ope~- space an~, as a Plnnning
Commiaeian~r, he was looking P~r the best trade-ofP if .ir,de~ad there wae any
trading-aff to be done~ and that he di~i not think the opQn upac~ ~~as d good
tra-de-c~ff dt this point in tirne U~ilesa t.Yiexe wae somo work done t~ the ared.
Mr. Smith atated he h~d nev~r consiclerc~d ~lie opan sprace area as a trade-off
but ea a part of tt~e t~tal concept~ that a certain portion of tho auhject
property wab to be dPVeloped and a uert~in portion would be left undeveloped
~or uso probably not anly by the property owners within ths eubj~ct r~ubdivision
bu~ by the property ownara in the adjoining areas~ that they wQre proposing to
leave an untouched, virgin, natural area and if by huilding homes in the
vicinity they weie creating a mare hazardous condition, that woul.d bQ dobatable.
Chairman Gauer inquired how the develop~r was proposing to integrate thQ exist-
ing ridinq trail a~ rait~ed by Mr. Jou-3on Roch~, and Mr. Smith atatea he was
som~what confuAed regarding the question aince he did not believe they had
~ver indicated that riding trails would be provided on the subj~et property.
Commissioner Comp~on noted that the Si:af.f Report :.ndicated unlesa khe property
was devoloped kt-H-22,000 the residents would not be permittec~ an~y horsea, and
therefore he could nat see whe.re they would be providing any i:rails.
Mr. Rowland stated that Chairman Gauer was prcbably very familiar with thd
Par.ks and Rer.reation evaluatian nf the Hill ar.d Cttny~n Aren wherein the
act vities and sports wauld have to be related closely with the schools since
there wa~ v~ry little fl.at land available, and Mr. Col1ier had spaken on many
occasions regardiny L•he need for a natural park s3te ii~ the area ar.~ the pro-
posa: was the closest thing he had seen t-.o that so far.
Chairman Gauer notecl that the C~ty wau.ld hlve no money to purc.hase ~he open
space at this time~ and Mr. ~towland stated •tha~ was a probler.- that Mr. Smith
had recoqnized and had an open mind ab~ut.
Gommis~ioner Compton inquired regarding a comment that R-H-10,000 was possibly
iiivad~ng R-H-22,000 zoning, and recognizin:g that there was R-H-22,000 on all
sides of the subject property, would the developer classify that as an invasion,
and Mr. Smith indicai:ed in the negative and stated the property might have some
extenuating circum3t~nces but that the concept was in keeping• with the aurround-
ing development.
Mr. Rowland atiated there seemed to be too much concern regarding the transition;
tha.t the General PJan called for the transition between area~, however, R-H-
10,000 and R-H-22,OOC bath had the classification of low^~density residentia]..
Commissioner King noted that he understcod the density would be 1.S dwelling
units per acre and the lot size averaged 13,000 square feet, ancl Mr. Smith
indicated those figures were correct.
Mr. Donald H. Vanderbilt, Anat~eim, appeared before the Commiss.ion and inquireci
if. the proposed dwe].lings would be surrounded by 6-foat high fences.
Mr. Smith stated the ~ veloger had no plans for fences at all; that they wauld
like to see the development withou't f.ences, however, inaividual .iomeowners
would put in their own fences as they so desired; that any fences woulcl be
lesa intrusive than usual considerin~ the number of trees that would not be
removed and the s~tes wer~ conside~abl.v steeg= and that the dev~laper would
probably desa.gn a rustic-type fenee 'a recommend to the hom~owners.
Commissioner Herbst stated he did nat know what thp s3tuation was for riding
ttn~ hiking trails in the subject area, however, he could see tha~ no aonsidera-
tion had been given to it because of the R-Fi-10,040 zoning; that inasmuch As
there was R-H-2'1,000 on both sides of subject pz'ope~ty~ same considerati~n
should be giveri to some way of transvexs9.ng the property with riding trails or
a trail to get from one side o~ the subject property to the nther where riaing
trails existed so that the x~,ders ~ou1d not i'lAVP to go comple~ely around the
subject property.
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MINUT~SR CI~X 'PLANNING COMM7SSION, March 18~ 1974 7a-173
rNVIRUNM~NTAT, IMPACT RFPOItT NO. 120, RECI~ASSIFTCATTON NO. 73-74~49, ANG
TENTATIVI: MAP OF TRACT NO._8560 (Continuod) ~
Mr. Rowland statod thE windbraake were 7ot a pa,tt of the individual ~ites hut
w;z•e part of the common apen space and the ri.dera co~xld traverde the prnp9rty
].ongitudir.ally and in aome casos lar~rally Rlong the windbreak lineat and
that eince the windbrealcs were c~nsid~red open space they could ioA uued as
riding traila.
Commisgioner Herbst further st~ted regardinq zoning that R--H-10,000 would
not all~w horses and lf cons~.deration was fio be g.iven to the ric~ing trails,
~erhaps this should be inclt~ded iz~ the develQpment atandards £or the property
so the Ci.ty would know there were trails thorel ~hat the ~p~n epaca w~uld k,e
owned by the R-H-10,000 property ownera and thoy might nat want horsea
traversing their prop~rty.
Upon inquiry of Chairman Gauer, Mr. Rowland s~ated the open sp~~e wauld be
owned in common by the property ownora ir. the subject tract~ t t he did not
think the subject property could be at~ddled with an e~uestrian ~r.ai1 b~cause
thp propert,y did not register ~n the state-wide plan for hikina and riding
trails; that if thase people wer~ not pE~rmittPd tA have horses~by statute anc3
the property be~.ng private praperty, any horaes thexe wouZd be for the bc~neva-
lence of the property owners in thd tract and he did noL• see how they coulcl be
required by statute to p.rovide for thp hor.ses oi othexs.
CUmmisei~ner H~rhat sta~ed the planning was to provide riding and hikiny trail~
thruughout the Canyon and tha subject property waa next to R•-H-2?,000 property
which permi::.tecl Yiorses~ that he did not knaw where the trails were, iP there
were any, or if there ghould be some; buk that the R-H-22,000 properties wez•e
entitled to horses and by having R-H-10,000 down the middlfl of R~H-22,000 the
concept was being changed, and theze needed t~ be an ovPrlap.
Mr. Smittt sta~ed that if the subject property was to be included in the Mohler
Drive Study Area, he believed it was permissible for the penple in ~hat area
to ride hurses in the street and for certain access they did ride down the
~treet, it was not inconceivable that they ~•ro?ild do so; however, th~re were
areas that w~uld allow for an easemE~nt to the property, e.g., ac;r~~~ *_??P common
area to Mohler Place, then ta Del Giorqio Road, and then on thr.ough the sycamore
grove, and he stated he did not object particularly to making such an easement;
and that as far as thP lats were concerned, as a matter of Code ho•rses cou].d
n~t be pxovided for.
Mr. Jou-jon Roche stated there was a question as to whether on the groposed
R--H-10,000 tract that 7 of the lots wer.e ~ne-half acre or larger, if the awners
of those lots so wanted could they have horses since gurely by square foot
st~ndards their lots were equal to the R-H-22,000 standards; and in discussion
with Mr. Smith and Mr. McCarthy, the cammon area woulcl be a dandy place to
keep horses; that even ~,vith the small lots and the rural atmosphere, the people
could keep tYieir horses in the designated comtnon area in a coverEd corral; that
they would be using the area ar~d with the nearby schaols there would be tennis
courts, basketball courts, etc., which the people ~ould use= 30 it would be
feasible for the people to own horaes and, if so, where would they ride them;
that they could use the existing pri~ate trails ar.d it would make sense that
while the tract was being laid to take this into consideration especially sinoe
people wou~d be allowed ta build. fences; that the ~xi.sting fences were mainly
to hold horses and not fenae prop~rtiea; and that unless f:hese matter_~ were
taken into consideration ahead of time the area weuld get fenced iz-.
Upon inquiry of Mr. Gay].ord, Mr. Titu~ advised that the .'nginezriz~g Division
was recommendir.q tha~ Del Giorgio Road from Santa Ana Car~yon Road to a point
ab~ut 86~ feet north of Mohle.r. Drive plus the eonnecter street to Fairmont be
hillsic'~ colleator.
Commissioner Johnsan stated that he identified with both sides af the issue
being considered since he lived in a rural area; that he had served on property
owner committees and associations for many yp~rs; that xhe homeowners were
comparing what they prPSently had, the open country and the wilderness, with
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MINUTF.S, CITY 1~LANNING COMMIS5IQN, March 18, 1974
74-174
ENVIRONMEN'Y'AL IMPACT ItEPORT Nb. 120, RECLASSIFTCAT~ON NU. 7:3-7A-49, P.N1D
TENTATIV~ MAP OF TF~ACT NO. 856U ~Continue~) _ _,_____~__
what they wou].d have when The McCdrthy Company clevoloped the subi9ct propertyt
that ~he propoxty awnera ehaulc~ compare the proposal wi~h what could happen if
th~ area was developed piecemeal, one lot or Pive lo~s at a time, or the
develapmont of the ur~a with gradera a~nd peda~ that thc~ kind af developmant
proposed needed encouragem~nt in thA Gunyon areat that he had d great ~'er~r of
the graders a~~d earth movera v~hich made steppiny atanea out of the hil~es that
progr~as c.ould not be held back and it wAa his opinian that tho propasal wAs
a good ut3lization of the property w~.fih the exception o~ the varioue prablems
that had been discuesedt that with xespect to tradinq ofy, he felt the whole
concept was being tradad off cor~verse to tk-e graded building m~th~d.
CommiBaioner Iierbst stat~d he agreed with Commiasionex Johna~n's thougiits,
however, h~ did nosc think the Planni~ng Commiasion had enough informatfon ag
to ox~ctly how the devalopment would happen= that hg was not sure abaut the
outcome of L~t "A" which was c3usignated for open s~ace; whether tt would be
included in the CC&Ra or whett~er it would be dedi.cated to the City for a park,
snd that many thinga could happen: that the develop~z was saying thare could
posaibly be samQ ridiiig trails ~ut through the ~rr,perty And r~lthough he .Liked
the concep4 dnd what he saw, he did not think 3t was Finaliz~di that he was
not aure that tha alignment on Fairmont wa~c where it should be and the City
Staft should prov.ide more informat~.on, particularly in view cf tho fdct that
Fa~.rm~nt would be i:ransversing Mr. Nicolas' property; that although the devel-
opment would be giving a lot of property for Fairmont Aoulevard, tliey were also
recommending taking a l.ot of pxoper~y; and that he wpuld li}ce tc~ see more
thought in regarci to some of the questions in his mind before he was ready to
vote for it.
Com~nissioner Johnson stated regar.ding the alignment of Fairmant Boulevard
that the City Engineer had stiated that the City had not studied the dlignmen~
and that the proposal would not constitute an acceptance oi Mr. Rowland's
aZi.gnment of thai: street .
Mr. 7.'itus advised that the City was in the procesa of making the street align-
ment study and one of the rscommended conditions on the i:ract, if approved,
::~R that it would be subject t~ the precise alignment by the City.
Commissionzr Compton inquired if approva'1 0~ the tract would in effect be
designating where Fai nnor.t Boulevard would go, and Mr. Lawzy advised in the
negative and that the street could conceivably cyo through the middle of •the
subject proper~y.
In reply to questioning by Commissioner Her.bs~t, Mr. Titus advised that the
referenced alignment study would be available in approximately three we~ks.
Commissioner Morley inquired if the peti.tionPr would consider a four-week
continuance in order f~r the Planning Commission ta have an opportu~zity to
review the alignmeni: study.
Mr. Rowland stated if the Planning Cc~mmis~ion pleased, the progosal was the
most extensively studied pr.ojer.t he had worked on in ei.ghtaen years; that this
was the most complete package tha~ was possible nn a piece of unzoned property;
that the developer would much pref~r to be flat denied so that they could
abandon the praject rathPr than go th~ough ~n ~dditit~nal four-week period; that
there was a fantastic investment in the project; that the~~ felt this was the
best prud~uct for the property; that a coridition could pro~ect L•he City insofar
as the alignment of Fairmont Aoulevard and the Staff Report was very extensive
and included that condition; that if the Pl.anning Commission did not act upar.
the proposal at this time it could never be ac~ed upon, although that was a
personal aside; and that The McCarthy Company wou13 not want to be continued
but would much rather be denied.
Commissianer Morl~y stated although the project was very gaod and very well
thought out, he was sugge~ting the aontinuance ta possibly imprnve upon ~he
developer's p~sition.
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MINUTE5 ~ CI~Y PLANNING COMMISSION, rilarch .1.8, 1974 74••175
ENVIR('~NMENTAL IMPACT R~PORT Nd. 120, RECLASSTS~ICATION N0. 73- 4-49, AT7D
T~NTA~TI\TE MAP OF TRAC:T N0. 6560 (Continued)
Commiasionar ,7nhnson aFf.4:°ed a moti.on, eoconded by CommiasionAr King and MOTION
CARRIED (Commisaioner Farano being nbaent), that the Planning Cr:;~~nissfon recom-
mends that khe City C'ounail eortify to having reviewed an~i cansiderecl the
informa~ion contain~d in Envirnnmental Tmpact Report No. 120 n~nd thak the final
E:IR had b~-en campleted in comp].iance with tho Ca].ifornia Environrnantal Qun:ity
Act and the State Guidelines.
Commisaioner Johnson offerod Resolu~ion No. PC74-66 and moved for its passage
and adapl:ion to recommand to the City Council tliat JPetition for Reclaesifica--
tion No. 73-74-49 be appr.oved, subject to conditions.
Conani.ss~oner C'ompton noted that ulthough the pro3ect was beautiful, he was
incli,ned to agree with Commisaionex Herbst that he was not prspared to vnte
an acceptance ~n tho projectt that he would ].ike more diaci~asion ~buur the
possibility o£ a cont•inuance= that i.f th~ ~aveloper had r~p~~n~ so much time,
money and eff~rt on the project, why couldn't th~y wait fo~- the in~ormation
regarding i:he st•r~et etudy and also tha aur~sideration Eor the ridit~g tr.ails;
and that there were several unanswered queations although the Planning Commis-
sion seemed to be lea~ing *.oward the Frojeat. Mr. Smith sti.pulated that the
develaper woul.d be more than happy to provj.de any defiziiti.ve engineer.ing re-
quired to estT.blish ~hQ dam in a s~fe condition; that as far as tha eagement
for ridiny accesg into other areas, there was ;~o r.eason why these aculd not
be provided; but as far a~ the c:ontin~xance, he wauld have to take the positiinn
that it was something that could nat b~ accepted.
Commi~asioner Herbst stated he did not like the positiori the Planning Cammiasian
was bEing placed in by the deve]opert that further stud,y was needed; that al-
thouqh the developer had s~ated he could da the thinqs discussed or provide for
the:n, he had not stated he would do them; that the Planni~g Commisaion should
see a tract map that would show that the matters of concern were provided for
and tt~at he would not vote for the petition un1:i1 such time as he did see a
r.evised plan; that the sub;ect tract would affect the area very much; tYi~t he
recognized t•h~t Mr. Rowland made a veiy fine preseritat~on and had done a lot
of hard work, however, the Planning C:omm~.ssion had the material on it foz~
review for only a8 hoursj and t.hai: he was not aboui: to be rallroad~d into some-
thing that neectt~ further study. ~
Mr. Smith stated he had no intentian of railroading the Commisgion but un~ortu-
nately he was faced with s~me circumstance~ that prealuded him from having any
additio~,al time for £urther cansideration.
Mr. Schwartze inc~uired if Cornmissioner Jahnson would wisl-i to ix~clud~ in the
resolution of appraval that the CC&Rs would provide for the retention for open
apace of I~ot "A" ~nd any riding ~r hiki.ng firail~ on the sub je~t property; th~t
:hose areas o~vried in common were no.rmally fncluded in ~the CC6Rs and, thereupon,
~ommissioner. ~7ohnson indicated he would amend Resalution No. PC7a-66 to ~nclude
said item. (See Resolution Dook)
C~mmissioner Johrison further stated the Co:nmission was placed under undue
~pressure ~y the developer, howevPr, he could r.ecogni.ze that the~ were indicat-
ing they did not wish to have a continuanae.
Chairmaxi Gauer noted that thE matters of concern tio Commissioner Herbst could
certainly be handled by the Staff and incorporated in the development proposal
prior to City Council. review.
On roll caZl, the foregoing resolution, as amended, was pass~Q by the following
vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: Johnson, King, Morley, Gauer.
NOES: COMMISSIUNERS: Herb~t, Compton.
AHSENT: COMMISSIONERS : Faraiio.
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MINrtTES, CI'~X PIaANNTNG COMMISSION, March 18, 1974 74-~.76
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT N0. 120, ~CLAS~IFTCA2`TON N0. 73-74-49, AND
Tp'NTATIVT; Ml1P UF 'xRACT NO. A5G0 (ContinuAd~~
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Chiaf Building Inapector Aan Vail Dorpo advised the F].anning Cammieoion that
c:ertain ad~itional conditiona Ahould be im~aosed 1.n connoct:ion with approval
of 7Centative Map of Ti'ACti NO. 8560, due to the toroqraphy anc9 the fact that
~he l~te ~v~re not: tho pad type:
That plot plans submitted f~r building permita be drawn at a
auffioient saale wit~h contour iritqrvals of not moro tk~~n 2 feet
to show all an-aite improvemen~s inc~.uding retairiing walls,
stairwt~ys, wr~lks, and drivc~waya.
Th~t a'l1 roof ~vater be collected in guttera and conducted to
non-erosive dxainage devices unless atherwi.se rect~nunendad by
a soils enginQer.
Tha~ all building aites ~~ inspected and approved by a s~ils
engineer for removal of t.ree roots and other cle].etexious
aubetance pr~.or to foun~atinn inspectj.on.
Theraupon, tlze petitionpr si:ipulate~i t~ accepr.ance o£ the abovQ additionnl
conditions.
Mr. mitus advised the P~~nning Commission that the apprapriate wording for a
c~ndition r~lating to the dam ~n the subject property should read as follows:
That the developer should furniah certification to the City
whether the dam in Lot• "A" is :,ubject to regulatien by the
Sta~e of Ca].ifornia Departraent of Water Resources and, if it
is exemp~, under what provislon of ~he State 1aw it is axempt.
If the d~.*n i~ not subject to Sta~e regulation, the 3evelop~er
shall furnish the City with a report tr~m an engineering
geologist with a r~commenclation cnnaerning the safety of the
dam. Sai~ report sha11 includQ, but not be limited to, the
following information: height of the dam, storage capacity
oF the reservoir, ar.ea of the drainagP basin, data concerning
~ubsoil and foundation conditions, mat~rials of constructian,
geology of d~m site~ and ar>~ possible geolagic hazards.
There~ipon, the petitioner stipulated to the above c~riditian,as outlined.
Cormissionp.r Johnson afiered a motion, se~onded by Commissioner Morley and
MOTION CARRTED (Commissior-ers Compton and Herbst vo~ing "no" and Commissioner
Farano being absent), to approve T~,nt<~.tive Map of Tract No. 8560, subj~ct to
the following conditxons:
(1) That the approval of Tentative Map of Tract P~a. 8560 is graizted
subject to tnp approval of Reclassification P~o. 73-74•-49.
(2) That shauld this subdivision be developed as moze ~han one sub -
divisxon, each subdivisiAr. therEOf shall be submitteii in tenta-
tive form £or a~proval.
(3) Tha~ all lots within this t~.act shall be served by underground
utilities.
(4) Th~t a final tract m~p o.f subject prop~rty shall be subTit~ed to
and app.roved by the City Council and then be recorded in the
o£fice af the Orange County Recorder.
(5) That ariy progosed covenants, conditions and restrictions shdll be
submitted to an3 approved by the City Attorney's O£~ice prior tc,
City Cour~^il appr.'oval of the final tract map; that the covenants,
cor~ditions and restricti~ns shall provide for the retentic,n of
the prnposed 23.5-acre commonly-owned~ open space area whi.ch
shall be maintained in a naturaZ state with riding an.i hiking
trails proposed through the area; and, fuxther, that the ap~roved
covenants, conditions and restrictions shali be recorded conc~ar-
rently with the final tract map.
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M1NU'1'~S, CTTY PLANNING COMMISSIQN, Maroh ]'t, 1974 74-177
~NVIRONNQs'N7'AL IMPACT It~PORT NO. 120, RLCLAS~Ib'IC.ATIUN NO. 73-74-49. AND
TEN"_'ATIVE MAP OF 'TRACT NO. 8560 (Continuad~ ~
(6) ~rhat prior to flling tha final tract map, the mpp~.i4anh s~iall
oubmit. to tha City Attarney for approval or denial a complete
synop~.is of ~tr~ prap~eac~ tunctioning o~ the opc~r.ati.nq corporatic+n,
includiny but nat limiked to thA Artictes o.f incorpor.ation byle,ws,
prupoae~7 methods of mdn~gement, bondinc~ ro inaure m:xlnten~nce of
r.ommon ~~raperty and buildinys, dnd such oth~r in~ormdtian as the
City Attorney may desire to pr~tect the City, it~ citizc~ns, r~nd
the purchasers of thd pruject.
(7) That street• names ~r-all be dpproved by the City of Anahoim pr.lor
to appioval of a final tr.act map.
(8) That drAinagQ of saicl proparty ahall bn disposed :~f i,: a manner
sal:lafactor.y to Ehe City Enqineer. If, in th~ prapar.ation uf
the F~te, aufficient qrading ie required t~ neceseitate a grading
pei~mit, no work ~n yrading will be pc:rmitted betwoen Octaber 15th
and Apx~il 15th ur-].eas a11 required ofE-si.fi.e drainage facilitias
hav~ aeen ins~all.ed aT~d are ape~rat.iva. Posit:.ve ass~rancQ shall
be providecl the City that such drainage fac:ilities w~11 be com-~
p~.et~d prior• ~o Octobc~r 15t'~. NecPSSary right-c~f-way for ~fY-site
drain,~~Je facilfties Rhall be dedicated to the City, or the City
Co~sncil shn11 hav~ ir~itiateci condPmnati~n p.roceedings thereP~r
(the costs of wh::ch sha11 be borne by the devel~per) prior to
commencement of grading ~pArati.ons. The required dx•ai+iage Pxcili-
ties shall be of a~ize and t:ype t~ufficient tn carry runofP ~~aters
originating from higher properties t:~ro~.gh saicl pxo~carty to ulti-
mate d~.sp~sal as approved by the ~'ity Enqineer. 5ai.d dxainage
faCilities sh~ll be th.~ firsx it n of con~truction and ahal~. be
completed and bE functional thLOUghout the tract an3 from the
duwnstr.Eam baundary of the ~ro,~erty to th~ ulta.mate point i dis-
posal prior to the issuance of ariy final buildin~ inspections or
occupancy permits. Drainage distr~ct reimbursement ag,reements may
be made available to tl~e deve.lapers uf said pro~erty upon their
request.
(9) That g~ading, excavati.n, and all. ott~,er aon3truc:t on activities
shall be conducted ir. such a manner so ~9 to mininize the posai-
bility of any silt ariqina+-i.ng f.rom this projec:t being carried
into khe Santa Ana River by •~'-arn: water originatin~ fram or flow-
ing tY:raltgh this project.
(~0) That the owner(s) of subiect property shall pay to the Ca.ty of
An~heim the appropriate park 3nd recrea' n in-li~u fees as
determined to be appr.apriate by the City Coun.:il, said fees to
be paid at the time the i~uilding peXtnii; 9.a ? ss»ed.
(11) That Del ~iorgio Road f.rom Mohl~x U.rive to 850 feet ~ so~sth of
Mohl~r Drive shall be cons*_ructed in uacordance with the ~'ity of.
Anaheim ~stand~id fc~r a hi.llside ~oll~ctor..
(].2) That Mo~?~r Drice from Santa Ana Canyo,l J;oad to Del Giorgio Road
shal; `^^ ~~^~+Y~~cteci in accor8ance with the City of Anaheim
Star "' ' t•- I--.: i:IC ~'Ci.l~:r.'L:.+i .
(13 ) TI, :.t Ue 1 :...
~~G'' Str~~~., ~~ ~;
Fairmont S::reet
Anaheim standar
side only.
Rc~cl .__..,~ 'ui:~J iee~ ~ soUtY_ ~~ i•:.~hler Jr.it~e t~
~~~;~~ ,•• ~~t °_ ~, .;m De3 Gi.c~r~i~ . ~ad ~o future
be c~nst~ucteu in accoraar.:~e witY~ the City of
3 f~r ~~. hillsiclP callector ~~ith access ~n one
(1A) That the proposed ter~tat.ive tract map gha71 be apgrovz3 subject
to the official dPtermina~t.ion by the City ot' the precise aligri-
r~ient of future Fainmont Street.
(15) Tizat fire bre~ks sha11 be ~rovidea as required and approved by
the Fire Chtef.
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MINUTES , CITY PI,ANNINC COMMISSTON ~ ~~iarch 18 ~: 974
74-].78
ENVIRONMENTAI, rMPACT 1t~;POnT N0. ~.20, RECL118~TFICATION N0. 73-74-49, AND
TENTATT.VF: MAF AF THACT N0. 8560 (:oritinued~ _
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(1.6) Tha~ the developdr ~hall farniAh verti.ficatl.on tc ~hc~ Gi~y whechc~.r
thp dam i.n Lot "A" ie sub j~ct ~o z•ec~u].ation hy the 5ta~e oP
~alifornit~ Uepartmant of Watar Rebources ar~d, i~ it ia exsmpt,
undor what provision of the Sk~t9 law i.t is oxc~mp~. `' ;.yp dam
in not subj~ct to Statc~ r~gulatian, thc~ dev~alopar aha. ~'urn:leh
the City a r~port from an enqinaering gealagist w,fth a recam-
mendation cr,r.cerninr~ the eafaty of tlte darn. Said report ahall
include, but n~t be lirnited to, the following information:
'~eight of the dar1, at~raye capACity af t}i9 ro~Ervo,ir, area of
~Y~e dra~nege baein, data aoncnrning suhsoil and foundation
con~liCions, n-rsi:orials of constr.uation, geology o~ dam si.tn s~nd
any p~eP;...le goo7 ogic hazurds.
(17) That p1~t plane submitted for building permit~ be drawn at a
sufficient scale with car~tour in~ervals of not more than 2~aet
t~ show all ~n-site ~.mprovements, ~.ncluding retaining wall~,
stairways, walks, and driveways, ae st~ipulat~d to by the
~~~titioner.
(18) Thmt all roof water be coll.E3ct~d in guttera and conducked to
non-erosive drainage devicea unless othexwise recommc~nded by
r~ soils engineer., as stlpulated to by the petitioner.
(19) That all building sites be insp~cted and approved bX a soils
enyineer for rernoval of tree roots and other deleteriuus
substance prior to foundation inspection, as atipulated to by
the peti~ioner.
CONDITIONAL USE - PUBLIC IiEARING. HENI;Y F. AND ETHEL C. DEL GIORGIO, ~535
FERMIT NO. 1457 West L u Palma Avenue, Anaheim, Ca. 92$O1, Jwn~rs; TEIE
-' McCAR7.'HY COMPANY OF SOUTHER:~V CALIFORNIA, cj a E. R. Fuller,
2535 Weat 'La Palma Aven :e, Anak~ein-, Ca. 92901, Agent;
requesting permisslor. ta ESTABLISK A FIVE-t7NIT MODEL IiOME CON~'LEX, WAIVING
(A) MAXIMUM NLrSBFR OF F".tEE-STANDING SIGN5 AN~ (A) MAXIMUM SIGN AREA on property
described as: An irr.e;ulr~.rly-shapea parcel of ~.an3 consisting of appr~ximr~tely
6 acrPS located suu~:~^:.~y of Santa Ana Car~yon Road, appr.dximately 7800 Feet
eaet o~ I~nperial Higt:wai. Property prPSently classified R-A, AGRICULTURAL,
ZUNE .
N~, one ~.pF~earnd i.n ~pposition to subject pet~tior~ .
A~thouyh the Staff keport to the Planning Commission dated March 18, 1974 wea
not read at tk~e public hearing, it is reFerred i;o and macir. a part of the
mini~tes .
Mr. A~rn~rd Smith, Pre9ident of the 3outhern California D:.visior~ eP `Phe
McCarthy Com;~any, a~peared before the Commisaian and 3isp'layed a map show~nq
the propos~d model c~mplex which would be lacated wit.hin the center portion
of. the ~ubiect ~roperty, and ~tatFd that the proposed landscaping was based
on .• n~tur~a. ~<?-~cept.
TIIE I'UA-•TC i;.~:~RIAIi, WAS CLOS~D.
T.~., rep7.y to ques*ioning by Chairman Gauer, Mr. Smith s*,ated the m~del home~
would be sold ancl not torn do~n.
In z~ply to quest.i ~~, ~ng by Zon~ t~g Supervisor Charles Roberts, Mr. Smit.h
stated th~ propeseu siqna would be tPmporary in nature and would probably be
ner,essary for a maximum of two years. Mr. ~mith gtipulatec: that the signs
would be removed at ~he time al'1 of the homes in the tract wer~ sald.
Chai±-man Gaue noted that he aould rat:h~r set a udte cer.tain for removai o~
the signs an3 approve extensions of time if r.Qcessary, and Mr. P.oberts advis~3
that the previous signs considered for thP Anah~im Hil?s had been o,f a perma-
nent nature rather than a temporary nature.
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MINtJTE3, CITY PLl,NNING COMMTSSION, March 1E3, 1974 74-t79
CONDIZ'I0~'AJ~__USE_PERMIT _ 02~,`. ,_1457 (Continagd)
Commisaioner King uffered a mr~ti.on, aaconded by Conunisslonor Juhnsan Rnd
MOZ'ION CARRIED (Commisa~.oner. F~x•a:.o beinq nbsent) ; t:c.~ sustain the ~r.evi oue
dction oF the Planning Commis~ian cancerning Environmental Impact Rep~~rt No.
~.20 (geo P].anning Comm.ission nd.nutes ~f Meroh 18, 1974 ~- Petition for
R~c:laeaification No. 73-74-49), th~t the Pl~nning Commi~sion reoummends that
the City Gouncil certi~y tn l~aving reviewdd a~nd •~~ns~dered rhe information
cantAined in F.nvironmental Impact RApart Ne. 12u 3nd thnt tY-~ ~inal EIR had
bec~n camplet~d in compliancQ with the Ca11F~rni~ ~:nvt~-onmen~~a1 pua.lity Art
ar~d the State Guid~~linea.
Comm.i~eioner King offered ROAOLUt~.011 No. PC74-67 and r~ved for ita pasasge
and adopti~n to grant ~etition for Condition~l UsQ P~rmi~ No. 1457, gr.~nt.ir-g
Waivers a and b on th~ ~;as~e that the rr.opooec~ aigniny was ~f ~ tF+mnorar.,y
AA~UrP. and thP ~etitioner stipulat~d !-o ~•pm~~..~~ - , . ;; ,~ ;-~, :..~m~~~it-t.;ly
upon "sell out~~ '' rhe t~-act horn,.~;; and ~~.Lj~~t to cczzui;,i;~,~,q. (Seo
Resolution Bn~~~~
On roll aall, the foregoing resolution was pasaed by th~_ .~ollowing vo~e:
AY~;: : COMMISSIONERS : Jnhnson, King, Morley, Gauer _
NOES: COMMI5SIONERS. Compton, Herbst.
ABSF,NT: COMMISSIONERS: Faiano.
GOMMISSIONER JOHNSON LEFT THE N~ETTN~ i' 6:55 P.M.
ENVIRONNiENTAL IMPACT - Ten~ative Tract No. 7587 - Prope~ t~ consie•ting of
REPORT N0. 11.6 appraximatel,y 35 acrea loca*ed ir, the Eastridge Unit
of Anaheim :Iills, app.roximazely 1200 feet so~ith of
the intersection of Nahl Ranch. Road and S~rrano
Aven~ie .
Assistant 'Lon.ing Supervis~r P,iillip Schwartze pres~ntad the 3taff Report to
the Planning Commission dated March 18, 1974 and noted Eor tha c'on~nissian
that Tentative Tract No. 7587, proposing a 39-lot, 3ingle-family, i•e:~idential
subdivision was approved oLi November 9, 1971 ~y the City Counci.l~ i:hat an
~exten~lon of time of one year was grpnted retroactive ly by ~ounc.il action ~n
February 20, 1973 to ex~ire on Nevembex 9, 1973; that the City Co~ancil on
January 22, 1974 qranted another Pxteiision of time of one year sub ject to
several conditions, ~ne of which requirec. an Environmental I:mpact Report to
be £ileG•
Commissiorier King offereu a motion, aecondec3 by Cummiasion~r Comgt~n and
MOTTON CARRIED (Commissioners Farano and Johnson being ab~ert), that the
Planning c:~mmisaian r.ecommends that t~he City Council certify to having ra-
viewed ar~d conaidered the informati~n contained in En vlronmental Impact
Report No. 116, in ^~njunr.tion with EIR ho. 80, and tha~t the final EIR had
been completed in compLiar.ce with the Califorriia Env ironmental Quality Act
and the State Guidelines.
ENVIRONME:JTAT, IMPACT - Tent~tive ~i'ract :Io. 7556 - Property co;~sistinc, of
REPORT N0. 117 approximat.ely 31 acres lo~:ate d i.n the Eastridge Unit
of F,naheim Hills, approximate ly S00 feet south o~
the intersectic:l of Nohl Ranc~ Road at~d Serrano
AvF:nue .
Assistant Zoning Supervisor Philli.p Schwartz~ presen ted the Staff Report to
th.e ~l~nning Corimi.ssior~ datEd March 18, 1974 and noted that Tentative Tract
No. 7558, pzopos:ing a 22-lot, single-family, rpsiden }ial subdivisiun was
appro~ed on February 15, 1972 by the City Couricil; that a.n extens~on of time
~f one year was grantsd by Council o:i Januaxy 22, 19 74, subject to several
condii~ons, ~r.a of which requir.ed an Envir~nmental Irnpact Report to be filed.
Comm.issioner Kazg offered a motion, secanded by Commiasioner Co:npton an~
MOTION. CARRIED (Commisr~ioners Farano and Johnean bei ng absent), that the
Plann.ing Commission rec~mmends tha.t the Clty Counci 1 cert-ify to having re-
~~iewed and consi.ciered t~ie information aontainad in Ez~vironmental Impaat
Repc,rt No. 117, in cor.ji~nction w~th EIR No. 80, und fihat the ~inal EIR had
baen completed in aompliance witn ~h~ Califarnia Env ironmental Quality Act
and the St~ate Guidelines.
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MINUTT;S, CITY PLAIVNING CUMMISS:CON, March 18, 1974
74-180
REP(.ctT5 AND - ITEM N0. 1
RECOt~IMENnATIONS ~ 'E NO. 2267 -}tequeat ~ar servicing canoQy -
'"-~' ! Proper.ty laoatod at thH nox'thwoet cor.nex~ of yicAway
Drive ~nd AnahQim noulevard, f~.irther. describPd as
1~511 South A~ic~heim Boulavard.
Assistant 2onin~ Supervi~or ~hi]..tip Schwartxe preaented the Str~ff Report t~
thti Planning Commisaion dAk.e,d March 18, 197A, nnd sexid Sta~f Report ie
referred ta and made a~art of the mt;~utc~s.
The Planning Commisaion ei~tered into diacuesion regarding the ~ub ject r.P-
quea;:, during wh~ch questicna were rt~ised conc~rniny the purpose of the
proposed f~P.P-atanding c~:u~opy, the te~ling af the adjacent proper~y owners
concern~ n~ ths use, ~i-e ty~:~ ~L sexvices thAt would be o~fered, ot,c. The
Commisafon dQtc~rmined that in order to obtain fhe necesa~ry information
the applicant would need t-o '~e present.
Commissioner h:.ng offer~d ~ motion, c,er.on~lecl by Commis~ioner Morley and
MOTION CAR:tIED (Comniigsioners Fa.rano and Johnsan bAing absPnt) ,~o continue
coneideration of the aubi~~ct requ~st: to April ~, 1974, ~"~~r. th~ applicant i:o
be pr~ sQnt.
IT~M NO . 2
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 1008 - Request for clariPi-
cation oc permitted use - Property being a rc!ctangularly-
shat>ed parcPl oF land cunsiating of approximately 5.61
acies, having c't t*'OIl~c1gE,' af ap~roximately 330 feet on the
north side of: I~incoln A~-enue, h~ving a maximum depth 3f
approximately 775 fe~t, and beiriq located approximately
320 feet easter.ly of the centerline of Fseach Aoulevard,
and furth~r. described as 29~l7 West Lincoln Avenue.
Assigt3n~t 'loninq Superv_ •~r. Phillip Schwart-ze pre~ented the Staff Re~ort to
the P'lanning Commission dat~d March 18, 1974, and said Staff Report is refer-
red ta as if :~et forth in full in the minutes. He advised tnat the Planning
Commi~asion would wisti to determine whether the proposed expansion af the
prese~~t go-kart sales and service operation at ~he subject Zoca•tion t~ in-
clude approximately 30 game arcade machines in an existing building mi~ht be
permitted in conjunction with the existinq use, although the zoning was nct
appropriate, or whc~ther Conditior,a~l Use Permit No. 1008 shotild be readvertised
ta includ.e the prop~ a exparision of uses. He furtber ~.xplained that the
pr~posed expansion would basically r.eplace the sa~es~ an~. service oper.ation
presently being condacted withir. the building ar.d t;zat the ~:oning an the ~rop-
erty :.~ ~-A, whereas, if it were a ~ommercial z~r.e tlie proposed expansion
wouid ~~ossibl.y be a permitted use.
Upon inquiry of Commissioner Herbst, Mr. Robert A. Bethiaum~, 9451 Asbury
Circle, Westminster, t}-~e ap~~licant, appeared bpfore the Commi~s.ien and atated
he had been doing business at the subject location for the past ten years and
had no problems as far as the police were concerned since he had employed
off-duty paliuemen to tiork with himt that at one time h~ did have a problem
when a ga~e was installed and admission chsrgedr that as a result of the ad-
cussi.on charge he began losir.g ~ome of hia family trade and was getting some
ur.desira;~ie customera; th3t ;~.e went to the Police Department and a nrugrarr-n
was worked out so that a:i off-auty Anaheim polic:aman could be hired to woxk
on cveekends and holidays; tha~ although ~he cost was approximately $7 an hour
to obtain an off-duty ~olicem3a he had fou~nd Aver the years that it was wor~h~
while; that he had tried tc work alosely with the PQlice L~gpartment because
he needed a family-~y~e trade to exisL= and that he ~ou13 admit that it was
definitely a problem ~a keep out the undesirables.
Up~n inquiry of. Commissioner Mor~ey, Mr, Hethiaume stated he dic3 not think
the prop~sPd expansion would bring the undesirable element ~.nto the e~tablish-
ment; that he felt he could handle thP expanslon and maintain the family-type
trade; that he wou]_d continue to have a policeman an duty as often as neces-
sa :y; `_haL• he was desirous of continuing the s;~all parts and r~epair servi.ce to
thP customers whum he had sold equipmen~ to over the past few year~, however,
the sales and service would be limited ~3 he was tryinq ' o.~hase it ~ut; that
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MIT'~'rF.;i . CI'1'Y PLANNING COMMISSIOT', Maxc`1~ 18, 1974
1TEM N0. 2 (Continuc~d?
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t~he p.ropoeod dreade would be op~n fram :1.2:00 nc~n auring th.c week tsnd 9:00
a.m. unti.l midniqht on weekande ~.nd holidaya, t-nd ~uring the aunnne~r between
June 10 and Septeml.ier 5, the hours would be from 9:00 a.m. until midnight
d.aity; and that the proposed activity wnuld be aupervieed as h~ did nnt want
his equipmont torn up.
Commiaeinner Herhs~t noted that ina8much as the appl~.cant had been in business
at tho subject lacation for ten year.s, allowing the usc~ t~ cr~ntinue with t.hQ
proposed ox~ansion would bo wtthin tl~e intent of the Plr~nni.ng Cammiasion's
ap~,roval of Condit.3 ~~nal Use Permit Np. 1Q08.
Commisaioner Hler.bst atfared A motian, seconded by Commi~~ioner King and MOTt~N
CARRIED (CommieAioners Farana ana Johnaon hoing ubsent), that the PJ.anning
Commiasion finda and determines that the proposed expanaion as requested is
in con£ormance with thQ use a~s ariginally approved for Condittonal Use Permi~.
No. 1U08, b;y R~solution No. PC63-84.
ITFM NU. 3
COND T 0 AL USE PERMIT N0. 1230 - l2equast fc C
alari.fication of conditions for usa - Property
~onsisting of approximatc:ly a acrea, lpcated
on t"e wesL• side of Beach ~oul.evard, approxi-
matel.y 1000 feet north of the centerline af
Lincoln Avenue.
A~sistant Zoning Supervisor Phillip Schwartze n4ted for the Commission i:hat
the applicant was reguesting a two-week cantinuance in order tltat h~ might
be present.
Com*nis~YCr.t~ xing ui.L~;:~d a mot ~~~n, ,econded by Cr~mmi3sioner Johnson and
tdOTION CARRIED, th~:;. ~onsideration of the subject rec~u~st k+e continued ta
the meeting of Apri]. l, 1974, as requested by *he app] ~ant. ~h;~s ~tem
was consider.ed at the beginning of the meeting.
ITEM N0. ~
VAi2IANCE N0. 228.'• - Status of sc.~reening ro~f-
mounted equipment - PropArty located at the
southweat aorner of Santa Ana Can}-on Road and
Imperial Highway.
It was noted that on M~irch. 4, 1974 , the dE•-elopex to pre~:~re additional dra~,~-
ings Znd d,esigns to enc:lose and cover the roof-mounted air-c~nditioning
equ ~ment,_ v+hich was i~istalled on the shopping center units, in a aatis-
factory manner.
Mr- Charals riaagen, the developer, appeared before the Commission and pre-
5cr~~ed faur. mode].s as possible enclosures and cover~ for the r~~of-mour.ted
e~uipmez~t. FIe stated there was some concern for the visibilli:y from '~~~
slope behind the sh~pping center; and thut ~he roofless enclcsu~es or .-:cr.f~ens
would work beti:er thar. others for ~F,e equipment ~hat ha~~ be~ti ~ n~talled.
Commisaioner H~rbst noted that 3pv~ral concessic:s nud bEen given to the
Yorba Center and that the original understan&ing concerning the root-mounted
equipment was that it wQUld l~e allowe3 provided it was an integral par~ of
the archi.tecture ~~~ld the discuss~on between the Planning Corunission and the
architect w~s set iorth in the Conunissi~n miizutes.
Mr. Haagen explair~ed that the air-conditioning equipment anc~ ~ts scrc:ening
would be paid for by th~ tenants of the units in the shopping center and
he briefly exp].ained the h.isto~ of the plans for the roo£-mounted eq~ipment
that had been appraved by the City Staff and subsequently instu'i.ed. He
stated hP was naw tryins to resolve the problem that had arise: from the
appraved plans.
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MINUT~S~ CITY PLANNING COMMI3SInN, Mmrch 18, 1974
ITEM NO. 4 (C~ntinuec~)
74- ~.82
Commisaion~r f~erbet notiod tha~ the acreening p].aced oz~ a roof was not con-
si.dered to be an integral part of a roof, or a building, and the remedies
beinq di.scusaed d~d nut qive rh~ offQCt that was dasirable from ti~e surround-
ing s].opes.
Up~n inquiry ot Commiy~ion~r~ Ki.ng, 1lssistant Do~velopment S~rvico~ Direc~ar
Ronald Ttiompson a~lvised that thore had been a communic~tion ~~:o~ylem and the
I3uild.fnq Divieion ,~ad approved the ~crec~ning de~ice as to atructure and with
the understc~ndir.~ that o~ne instr+llatinn would be ch~clsed in th~ field f.rom ~a
zoning standpofnt to determine whether it met the inter.~ of the zoria pr.ior
t7 proc~edinq with the reat c~£ t;~~~ installationaJ that r~pparontty tho devel-
o~cr proceedad with installacion af ull uf the air-canditio~ling equipm~nt ori
t11P. r~of nt the ti.mQ tho Buildinq Division approved the cti;ructural plans,
and that t~ad been the communication gap that ~ccurred.
Upon inquiry of Commiesioner Morley, Mr. Haagen stated the builclin:~ were
nat c~esigned to havo ~econdar.y r,oofs; s~nd tliat he would ~suggest thc equipment
scre~n mou~,?. whi.cYi ~ould be covered with ro~fing paper thQ same co? ~r as the
roa f.
In r.eply to questi~nin.g by Commissioner Herbst, Mr. Haagen sta~ed ~i'le ~:laced
on tixe screening deviaes woulfl be toc. c~nspi.cuous and that they were propos-
ing to use light-weight material. Mr. Haagen further stated th~t the "ciog-
hduse" look waa less c:onspiciious than a c~ntinuoua ahield which might be 150
feet in length.
Commiss?.~ner tierbst noted that he thought~ the Developnien~ ~ervices DepartmF•nt
should r.•eview the matter further and n.~?;e a decision ~:hich would adequately
satisfy the intent of •the Planning Commission.
Commiasioner Herast ofFPred a motion, secand~d by Cammi~siorier King, that tlie
matt~r be referred to the Development Ser~~ices Depa.rtment for a decision which
woulcl come as close as possible to the i.~~nt of the Planning Commission's
original approval.
Upnn inquiry ~f Commissioner Morley, Ms. Haagen stated in order to place the
equipment beneath the roof structurP, they would have to rebuild the bui.lding.
Commissioner Herbst notec' that at th.is point in time the Development Scrvices
Departmsnt was in a better po:~ition than +~he Planning Commission ta evaluate
the tapography and make a decision regard~.ng the screening,
Commissioner King nnted that the screening tn long strips would prabably be a
problemaric solutiun clu~ to the wind si.tuation in the area.
Chief Building `nspector nan vGn Dor.pe advibed that all of tlie roof screening
models~ as pY~?St~~~ac1, would s,ceL the Cod~ requirementg frn~n a str~:ctur-~1
view~oint.
Thereupono th~. Plannii~~,7 Commission ent.ered in~o a detailed discu~sion of the
vari.ous mod~ls, as preserited, during which the Commission asked Mr. Thompaon
for rscommendation and a re~ommendatiun was offered.
Commis3io^er Herbst withdrew r-is motion to re£er the m~tter to Staff and
Cammissioner King withdrew his second.
Thereupon, Commissioner King offered a new mation, seconded by Commissior~:-~r
Mcrley and MOTION CARKIED (~ommissioner Herbst voting "no" and Con~missioizera
I'arano and Johns~n reing absent), to approve the model from those p~esented
that would best serve in the area, bei_ng a one-sided slant~d screen.
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MINUTES, CI'l'Y PLANNTNG COMMI~SIONFtt, March 18, 1974
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ITEId NO. 5
~ACI M~N`I~ PERMIT NO. 73~4E ~ Appr~val o£ parking/
].and~caping plans - Pro~e,rty bein~ +~n irrec~u].arly-
ahaped par~al of land of appraximatel~r 3 acrea hnving
frontages o~ dpproximatc~ly 700 feet. on the eaet side
of West Street and 800 fest Along thA et~uthwos~ side
of the Sante .An~ r'reaway, being loaate~i approx:~mately
3Q0 feet ~outh of the centerl:lne of South Street, and
prQSently being doveloped with a fr~ctoi~,~ Par the ssles,
rental and Aervi.ce of rocreational veliicl.es.
It was not~d that Enarc,achment Permit No. 73-4E was appraved by the C1~:1
Council on Sept~mber 11, 1973, to al.low an ~ncroachment in~o a portion of an
qxiAting sarvice road located east of Wsst s*.reet, north of Ball Road for
parking/landscaping and display purpos~~; and that appraval of aaid peimit
was concli*foned upon subsequent approval of pr~rking/landscaping plans b:
th~ City n3.anning Cummissi~n and City Council. IL• was fuxth~r nutel that
~ubmitted I~:.s-~s showed a t~tal of 85 ~arking space~ .~f which appxoximately
26 were within or affect2d by the a.rea of encror~chment; and that a 10-Foo1:
wid~~ land~capPd 3tr~.p would be provided adjacent to ~kt~e fi nta Ana Freew~y
within thc encroachment area.
Commissionor King offered a m~tion, secondi:d by G~mmissionar Morley snd
MOTZON CAfiRIEL (Comcni.ssioner~ Farano and Jolin~on beinq ak~sent) , t.o approve
the lanascaping ~:nd parking plans submitt.~d p~r Encr~achment Permit No.
73-4E, as submittea.
~TF:M N0. 6
C3NDITIONAL USE '?ERMIT N0. 1341 -~ Request for
clarification of use - Property ].ocai:ed on the
~:ast side of 5tate Callege Boulevaxci approxi-
mately S].0 fe~'- soui:h of Sycamore Street, at
400 North Str College Boulevard.
As~•istant 7~ning Supervisor Phill.~ Schwartze noted for +_he Commis-~ion that
Conditior-al Use Permit No. 1341 established a carwaar, on th~: eubje~t property.
HP further stated that several of£ices were _:cntaine~3 within the carwash
structure ana that one of the offi.ces was ~•r~_sently being used illegally f.or
automobile leasing, although no autamobiles w~re storEd. on-~ite; that a deter-
mination was re~uested as t~ whether the a..tomobile leasing was within the
intent of approval o£ the conditional use permit and, furrher, whether the
other vacant ~ffices could be sub-leased for other usea.
Commi~sioner t~~rbst noted that ha had been in the carwash and woulfl have no
object ~n to the additional use, however, the use was evid~ntly questionable;
that tr.e Commission had tzever considereci carwashes and o£fices together; and
tha* the original application was for a car.wash only.
Zoning Supervisor Charles Roberts advised that the aar.wash was appzoved with
no n~ther use included; however, the site pl~ns indicated more than one officE
in tizc~ building and that Deputy Cit~ Attorney Franlc I~~wry w~uld probably ad-
vise tliat the use, as reqtiested, couZd be approved if the Commissioa so
desired without additiona]. publsc hearing.
Chairman Gauer offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner King and MOTION
CARRIED ~Conunissioners Farano and Johnsnn b~ing absent) , to con;:iiiue c~~n-
~ideration of the subject reque~t to the meeting of April 1, 1974.
AAJ~URNMLNT -'rhere being no further business to discuss, Commiss!c,ner
King offered a motian, ~econded by Commicr~ioner Campton
and MOTION CARRIED, ~o adjourn the meeting.
The meeting adjourned afi 7:40 p.m.
spectfully s~.~bmi~~ed,
~t~t:t~c..~_~./ ~~. t-/t' GZ.•.-Q "~„~,•
P~tricia B. Scanlan, Secret~ry
Anaheim City Planning Commission
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