Minutes-PC 1976/08/05 (2)V ~ ~y~,
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JOINT CqMM~1tJl(Y ftf:IIF:VEL01'11E.NT COMI11S51(1N, 4'l-l1NPIING C011~115SION ~Np
F'aOJrCT Alilll C0~IMITTF.1_ 11[k:TIMG Of~ AUGIISI 5, IyJG
PRESENT : COMMUN I 1 Y 11EUCVEI.O?MENT' GOt1M I SS I UNf•.RS
PtttSCNT: PL~.NNI~~r, Lp~1MISSION MfMt)f:RS:
PfiISENI: F'RO.1f:CT AREl1 CUMMITT[E 11FMD[R5:
(l.-~y, Dinndorf, Fry~
M~rris, Moss
Ilcibst, Kinc~, Tolar',
Morley (latc)
~ushorc, Br<~wr~, Clark,
Eichrodt, Engr_lbrecht,
Lee, Lind, Payan, Rr.rner
pALSE:tIT: S'frlfl'; ~'1urc,ck, Contrcras , D'Urso,
.~rn~ld, Ford, Hi'1,
Hookc~', .lones
The: mcetiny w~s er-Ilec~ to order ~t 7:16 P.M. Citizens ~~~ere Provi~e~
witli pnckcls ccmccrnin~~, (a) a schcmitic economic analysis, and ,b)
tl~c suggested sequcncc fc~r decision-making.
i NTRQUUCTORY ItEMAftKS :
Mr. Mc~rris c.~ll~:d on Mr. Fernald to present thc ecunomic aspecrti of the
red;~~~alopm~~nt plans a,hich were discussed at the l~st meeti~;~.
STAfF PRESENTATION:
Sincc thciu ~~,~s bcen insufflcienC time sincc thc last meeting to prepar~
an ecc~nomie ~~nalysi~ nf all plans previously discu,sed, h1r. Fr.rnalcl'S
analy5is is based on the basie concept plan, cornpared to general land
uses suc~cle:sled i n the bas i c consensus pl an wh i ch was recommended by ~.~
molion and tabled at the last mecting,
The ~~nalysis inclucles a land use allocation comp~rison in a~res, pertain-
irq to resldential, commcreial (including parkin~, civic ~~nd industrial),
open s~ac~~ and ro7ds• Also included is a table indicating acreage,
b~~i)dinh size in square fe~t, and d~llar ~value. This perCai~s to Villaye
Center, oftica developmenr, tourist°related facilities, recrcational uses,
~ommercial prescrve, civic uses and new housing. The concensus plan
totals $114~325,OU0; with $187,700,Ot~0 indicated as thc total esrimatcd
value o( the arlginal concept plan.
Also included in the pacF:age are iT,arket~bility ratings, property taxes
qenerated, and project costs• With refcrencc to marketability, 11r. Ferna'.d
has assumed thc: ~ame anount of developmtnt ~aill occur cach year over a
twenty-y~~+r i~er iod. An ul t imate val ue of $2U0,000,000 i s assumed , a~i th
S5~pa0,000 in property taxes. The completed property would qeneratc
$300,000 in s~iles taxes. Over t.he ta:enty-ycar pcriod about $1,500,000
additional sales Cax money would yo to the City. 7he project would creit.c
abaut 10~000 per•manent jobs by the time it a~as compleled. A project
completed in ten years would prod~ice 50,000 person ye~rs of addition~l
cmNloyrnent Juriny the twenty ye~rs in the other plan•
(in an asidr.., Frank Lawery, Planning Commission attorn~y, noted th~t
duc to [he lack aF ~i quorum, Mr. Talar moved and Mr. Herbs[ seconded a
moLion th~t the Plar~ninq Commissioners were of(icially adiourned until
ncxt 'fucsclay. )
PUE3LIG COMMENT:
Mrs. Engr..lbr~•eht is distresse:d over thc ~~iliage Center N~~~n, which h~is
dwindle~l from 250,000 to 125,OOU syuare fcet, and from three storie~ t~
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Mr. l.cit~tu camplainad Chat the~ Projett Are.i Commitl~~~~ has nc~t bern c~ilied
upan to nive ~ consen~u. of the inpuc thay rcce.lvc~d. He r~sferred tu ~n
articli~ which ap{areared in the Register whicl~ ,t,ited, "The /11~~h~i ProJect
I~is n~~thing to d~ wi Ch con~ent." Mr. Lc~i t~u su~~y~:stc~~l f'I1C m~mbar ~
hc asked to prescnt thei r t~nsensus pl,in. Ilr. iindc~; st~nds "the Mayor fi~~s
a consensus plan of his own."
M;;. J~~ne Coi~k spoke in behalf uf Mrs. En_yelbrecht's cornments conccrning
Vllla~.;:: Centcr. If we ~dc~pt a cons~~nsus plan lhaC contains ~~+mc:nitics
and cnmmercf~il draws and preserve~, ~s much residential a's• po5sible,
p~wi•haps Vi 1 I~~,~e Cnetcr investurti vrould sre o~~portuni ties th.it. had no[
r,.:i ~,tecl hef<~rc, intcnsi fy [hc~ rett~i 1 sp.~cc, and upc~r.~d~. i e to f i t in wi th
th~~ r~~st. of the ameni ty pl~n that Ms. C~c,k would 1 ikc to see adopted.
Mi•, Ci.c~rge L~n_~, real estitc hrakcr, questioned th.r, term "consensu~;"
~,lan, Ile h~sn't heard ~nyone adopt this ~~irt(cular plrin. Thc plan docs
nc~l E~r~~ject spc~cialty retail, and office development has drvpped. N~
v;~lues are placed on Che cust of a commercial preserve and civic uses
rr,l:.it~~d tn construclion of a nr.w city hall. Mr. Lang wcnd^rs !~ow we c~~n
ui.ilfre~ [he same values in the consensus p'an of 12 aeres with no spaei~~lty
rcl~ii 1 .
Chuck Rc~ese asked ho~~ much would be paid ta people who own the property.
H~ was born and raised hcre, and he docsn't want to move. "Some:h~dy is
q;~ i iig to -_akc a1 1 th i s 1<ind ~nd bul I doze i t do~~n and makc mr movc whan I
d~ n't a~:int to move." (11r. Reese's stacemenl was immediatclY f~~ ~~W~-~~ bY
rc~c,undiny applause.)
Mr. P1orr i s then asked i f there ~•~ere more questions, and several pec~plc
shouted khcy wanted an answer rathcr than more yuestions.
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Mr. ~lcirris resNonded that it is true there are pe~ple in the centra c~rc
ar~~a ~•~h~~~ don't want to move. In many cases they wi I I nat havc~ to rnuve.'
That is why the new direction was called for by Mr. Scymo~~r. As the
diac~rams show, rnost residential areas remain. When you r!:move trom the
plan the a[traction of from 1~3 mi 11 ion visi tors a~ sho~~pcrs ln tl~c dot~nto~an
area, naturally the builde~' who is going to imest his n~one.y wi11 not build
the kinu nF compiex he would have built for that many visitors; he a~ill
build sornething that will 1it the needs of tlic people in tha clistrict.
Mr. Morris cited a personal example of the process followed in redeveloping
an area. He concluded by assuriny the group they wi11 be paid at least a
fair price for their property.
Mr. Fernald referrred to presPrvation programs, m,~ny of whlch are
alrcady in efFcct. These programs can be brougfit into tl~c redevelop~~tient
pr~ject area once ~•~e devel~p a plan and decide which residential are~~.
o-rill be preserved. Al1 of thc plans under current consider•at!on re[ain
thc resiclential arcas, ochcr th~n one area v~herc a fc4r houses ~~rc rnixed
~~ith conmiercial, and the area labeled U-1 which was recommende~d as
commercial ~n tihc survey. The decisions have rot y~t been mide. We
have yet to adopt a plan.
Mr. [ichrodt added thaC a seller is entitled t<~ the fair market value of
his pr~F?erty and as much as $15,000 more Coward the purchase of comparable
prope,ty Renkers are entitled to up to $4,00~ in subsidies over four
years, depending on how much of their incomc: they po~d for the rental.
Mr. E+chrodt sugc~ested Chose pe~ple who have questic~ns approach ProjecC
Area Commi tCce members .ind ask thccn. Hc thcn nient ioned Che i~nportancc
of thc Canyon industrial area, ~~~hich i, 8-10 Cinies t.he size of thc down-
town area ~nd whicl: definit^1y needs aCtention. Mr. Marris thr.n identified
four projects wliich havu benefitecl the industrial area.
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U~b AI Ic:n, 7U~1 N. flclen~, I ivcs in thc D-~ ~irt~a an~l dis~~utc5 Chc u'~c of
the wc,rk "con~;cnsus" with rc~Fcrencc to tltc D-I •~~~~~~. F'ivr, a( h~~s n~iyhbnrt~
are sr.~~ted r~t his table and th~y f~el lhe D-1 are+~ <;h~ulcl be inc:l~~ded
in resid~~nt~.il 4~resr.rvacion.
Mr. Leie~~~i cl.~imed the prr.s~•nt:~tion to City Council a~hich will resu~r
frum these mecitings wi 11 he '4~verwhelminqly pol i tir.,il ." ~1r. I r,i l~iu hec~~in
to prc~~~os~ a molion but was inlerru~led by N~r. Morris, ~•~hu ;tc~ted he hnd
bcen (nstruct.cd hy tli~ City Attarney's ~fficc th~i[ thc qroup, as eiti~~~ns,
c.~nn~t m~kc form~~l mofioris. Only thc ftedevclopmr,nC Commistiion, fhc
Plai-niny Commfssion or lhe Praj~~ct Arc~ Gommi tlc:c c~~n dc.~ so. Mr. Murri~~
wa; <~dvised today thc p~~~>{.~Ic ~~rc hcre ~~s wil:nesscs to these [hrec bodics
for thc prupose of providinc~ input.
Lirry N,ing I ivcs tu thE~ wcst of Project Alpl~i arc~i. Ile fcels t.hc p~~y~~ff
wi 1 I com~ From Che incr~~ti~secf [~xes~ avii lable From an ii~provcd do~~nt<r.•~n
area. blr.~ arc 9oing ovcr assortrd consensus plans as o(~po~~e~1 Cc~ the
uriginal eoncept plan in which the City h~s invesled $G00,000 ~n ex~~er~
opinion. For che prupose of •~aving soma 13 aeres, or aboue 100 houses,
we ~re: giving up about $70,00O,OUO in taxablo proi~crty, arhich ~imounls C~
ab~~ut $7,000,000 a ycar ir~coinc Co thc tax basc ~rea. 4!e are also
r~roppinq appruximately 28" in market~bility, which means ti•~e are st.retching
out the potcntial return so it: will C~ke a lot lonyer for Che reduced
money to arri~e. We are also c~oing to be losing a si,ynific~nt numl~cr of
job ycars. With the di~p-off of 3-4 million er.pected ~hoppers do~~mtown,
that will raise hell with aur snlcs taxes. Fer v~hat dollars we take out
of thc G~iryon area and put in herc initi.~lly ~~e will gct a poor return, and
if wc have ~ poor return it wi'll be lh~, taxpa~;er who ~~i 11 p~y thr. bi 11.
Mr. Fernald reported he had tall<ed Lo Mr. Lowry, and it is p~~ssibl.r. ta
call for a show of hands on any situation where anyone wants a consensu~.
It is legal to call for a sh~w ~f hands in a,iy qucstion, but il is no[
c~~nsidered a mo~.;cn.
P1r. Lowry, Deputy City AL[orney, Anaheim, furthcr explaincrJ thc thrce
official bodies are chargecl by ordii~unce in the City o~ Anaheim. The
Planning Comrnission is adjourned for lack of a yuorum. The Project ~rca
Committee and the Redevclopmenk Cominission are the only official bodics
in session her ~. Citizens have a r•ight to spe~k and pres~ nt thcir ide~is
in open meeting; howe~er, they do no[ have an official charter or
ordinance position. You may p~'esent your vicwpoints and have a show
of hands, and these things are highly persuasive with city bodies.
Mrs. Elvira Nolm expects ta pay off her R-3 1or. in five years. Slie
does not want tu be "wiped out" when sl~e rctires.
A lady whose property is not loceted in the rcd~~vclopment area stated:
"Everybody in my area is in agrecrnent that the:y ar~ ayainst: whatever
lt is that is going t~~ be done."
Lou Frc:edman, 132 W. Lincoln, wo~ld like to see cornmc:rcial property re-
develoned ancl thinks it will help thc residenti~;l property bordering thc
area.
A 1 ady who 4~as 1 i ved i n Analie i ra for over 30 yca rs and I i ves on Nor th
'elena Street does not want to ~e11. She feels clownta4rn should attr~~ct
tlie tourist:. She is a senior ci~izen, docs not buy very much, and
ttierefore can't support the downtown arca•
Wes Mendoza was born here and sp~~ke in fav~r c~ tiu~ fltlie:'vi:ivj±~~=^r :;r
downto~m Anaheim. He would like to see a new Anaheim that citizens can
be proud of.
Ben Cutter, 218 W. Linceln, reminded citizcns wc fi~ve unly [wo more
meetings. pown[own is deteriora[ing; there is nothing left. We nced
a dowi~town. When something de[criorates to a certain point, everythin~
wil) go. We have Co cooper,~te with one another.
David Collins expressed concern that lhe ~1[~rn~ted plans diminish the tota'
commercial area and we must not diminish the c~~mmcrcial area belo•r~
that demonstrated in the Alpha plan.
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Mr. Morri . refr.rred b~ck to Chr_ ac~~nda and 11r. f"ernald'~; planned discussicin
of Leve.l 1 de~isions and rer.ommenclatlons,
Mr. Fernal~~ su99ested we firsC cunsidcr thc land use. Wricn there is
agreement on general land uses, w~ can then consider road lacations.
Dut we rm~st first considcr either tha recpmmended plan or some variati~n
of thal. p~~~n in ordc~r to come to ~~n a~raement on general land use; resi-
~lon~l~~~, cnre,mercial and open space.
Mr. Fic~rr(s asked if the pcople would ac~ree to vote on Just the land usc ~~
, fc:a~ure alanc. I
A yr.ntl~:~,~~;~~~ statr•~1 ~ lot of peoplc werc in f~vor of the ori~inal concept
F, ~~ii~ , ~t < dc,es n~ ~,:,• i t p~'; t~d an the w~71 I. Nc does r~ot fee Y we shoul d
v~~tr.. wl ~.i+c>ut havi~~~~ tha[ cholce.
Ft,, Lci~~u asked f~r a show of hands in favor ~~f the Nrojec[ ~rca Committcc
E,1<~n, I•-r. Morris restated thc reyuest: Hn~.~ mcny herc would i fke ko see the
f'ro.j~~ct /lrea Committcc presenk their idea of a plan t~ this gr~up at our
nexr, mecting rathf.r than going throuc~h the several pla7s here? A shoa~ of
t~•:~n~.i5 indicated 50 in f~vor and none opposecl. Approxim~tely 75 citizer~~,
al~:tained.
STA~'F UIRE~1'ION:
11r. Mnrris announced the ProJect Area Committee will presenC their
recomnendecl plan at the next mecting. (Thls was followed by applause.)
A gentleman ,uggested that the original Alpha plan also he avaiiable
fc~r comparison.
If.~~•is stated that the Five composite plans, the original concepC plan,
and ti~e n~w Project Area C~mmittee plan will be posted on the wall.
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Mr. M~ss mcved lhat the mceting be adjourned. The motion was seconded I
by Mrs. Uinndorf and carried.
'Thc meetiny adjourned at 9~25 P.M.
Respectfully submitte~i,
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Community Redevelopmenz Commission
Project Area Committee
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:JOlN'1' CUMh1UNi'1'Y Itf:Ul~;V1.C~~~l'M!;N'1' C:UMhl.ft~::~.lciN, }'1,nNNING ('UNIMI:•~S:I'Ui~ J1fJl)
k'ROJL;C'1' ARI~'11 CQI~Mi'.l"!'{?t? Mi~;l?'I' f NG C)1~ nUCUS'I' 1~ , 1971i
PRh;SLN'I': CUMMUMI'l'Y I213I)1:Vl~;L~OPi,1L:NT COMb]] 5t? IbNt;IZS : 13ay, Di.nndor, t, I'ry,
Mort'is, blo:;;;
FltF;61~;N'C: FLANN.LNG (',OMM~CS5I.ON MI;f~1I31;RS: I{cr'l.~si~, K.i.ng, D1Ut'lr.~y
P[tI.;S[;N`i': 1'32UJI~.C:'l' I1R1,J1 CUMD1~'.l"L't;-; :'4'~;M[31'~RS: liushore, 1:ichi~odL-,
I~;ncJc~lbrcchL, I.c~c, Lincl,
Newlcirk, Paycin, Renner,
Sc1[1C}1C'I., Warde, Woods
PR~:SF.N'P• ~TAF1'• i3lurock, C~nl•.reras,
~ ~ D' Ur.so, Ford, if i tl,
Hookcr, J~nen,
P.t-c~ndergash , S'Latigh.t•.cr.
'i'he -nee~inq was called to o.rdcr at 7:1E1 P.M, hy Mr. Will.i.am Mo.~ris,
Chai.rm~in. Mr. Morr.is granted the request c~f ~wo c:i.~ ; zens wh~ tiad a~kecl
to s~~c~~k at ttie beginning oL the meel-.inc~:
~1r.. Li~win Petc~rson: Rc~devc].opment :~eed nat }~e us compl.ic~ited a:~ it
scems. Ch~rt.res Si:r.eet, north on Lincoln on tlelen~l to Olive, shc~u.ld
be wi.dened to sia lanes; also Chc:,l:nut, south of: Lincoln. 2'hese stx~cets,
toyether with Droadway, caould provide east-west traffic, wii;h thruuyh
traffic d.ivert~~d from Lincoln• tteavy trucks could b~ r.outed to Sant~i
Ana ~treet. A village, occupy:~ng about 9-1/2 acres, should c4.ccr to
the to~!rist trade on bot~h side:; of I~incoln. Many solid, exis~.ing
struarures could be converred to this pur.pose. Buil.dings bCtWE'.E:Il I~Icl.nna
and Ol.ive should be evaluatecl as to their safety. 1~11 utilities should
be F~l.ac~~d unc]ergrourid. In suir~mary, Mr.. Peter~on encouraged ~ lower in-
ves~ment in r~development in vi~~a of tti~ possibility of a tutur~ recession
or deti~ression.
Mr. Uavid Co1.1?_ns: City Council must pr.~ceed with redev~].opment "witt~
spe~d•" Property is not being bought and sol.d because no one knows
what's cJoing to happen. Mr. Co].lins stands behind the Al.pha plan and
feels the current pl.ans do not hav~ th~ economic elemenl:s contained in
th~t pZan. Hi.s voting at the IlEXt City CGUncil election wi11 be based
on wtiethe~ son:e4hing like the A1pha plan is accepted.
CONSIDG3..,~TION OI' PLANS AND C:ONSFNSUS REC~MMENDATIONS :
blr. Morris indicated the plans postcd on the wal.].; thc plan wh~.ch had
be~~n tab].ed at a previous meeting, and the Project 71rea Committec plan (A)
whict-~ was preser-L-ed at the last meeting. The Redevelopment Commissic~-
mFt yesterday and has r~quested an indicatioc~ of t.he preL-ercr_ce of ttte
citizens. Both plans ~rti general an~i refc~ primar.ily to land use;
residential or commercial. Mr. Morris r~minded thc group that specifics
of an accepte:d plan will be reviewed by ttie Rc:development Commission,
the Planning Commission, ~nd the Council, and there will b~ oF~en hcarin~s
c~urinc~ whieh interested citize:ns may be heard. Pdr. Morris asl:c~~l tor a
show of hands indicai~ing pr.ef.er~nce fox~ one of the two posted p1~ns,
'1'Yie.rc wcr.~ com~laints that a real~_gnmenL- of. Lincoln shou].d nor bt' .~n~,ltid~:c1
in the p.resentati.ons and that the origina'1 Alpha plan should be inc7.ucl~d
in thc pnssible choices. Resistance t~ vot.incJ ~.~as c~xpr~ssecl through
ind.ividual ~nd grauE~ outbursts. Mr. hioss remi.nc~ed the grou~~ t.ha~ botL
~;l.ans zepresent input previous].y pr.avide~l L~y thosc ~n attenclancc..
Mr. ~7ames Leitau took the podium and pr.omoted "tl~iinking b.ig", wz.th z ncw
Civic C~nter as priority numi~er onc. Fle ti~reatened r~call ac~i.ons cor~•-
CL~I11flC{ each indiv.idua.l Councilman and endE'•d by re~erring to "cr.i.m:i.nal
~zc~ion". .
h~ir. Gant Ei^hrodt rE~yrekfutl.y annot~nc~cl the lo~s ~f. Lwo Staft' memt,ers.
11e pr.esc~nted zn oui:line ot- t.he stu~cJesti.o-is of t-.he ~nTn group, ~ahicl-i had
contar.ted many people, and ~oL-ed thcir suc~gestions r~r.c ine.luc3ed in bot.h
p1~:ins. "Both pl~~ns are a finc~ com~~romi.s^ to thc. .~11pha plan."
Mj- , i:.i.chrodt .Eeets thc "cart hyu~~kc repori:" ~~hould bc :nad<~ pub.l.i~..
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t,efc:~r~~ ~-i {.~ul~lic h~~ar. i~1y w:i.1 ti refc~rc~nce to tiny :7tr.r.~~l al.i.c~»;n~~nt.
Mr. M~rr'i.s' r.c~c~uc~tit 1`o.r n:~how uC hanc3s,~ i.ndicut-.rr~1 ]~ .ii~ L'avor of 1'lan l~,
~incl 4~ F~r.c~f`c~r.r.iny f.'lan 13. /1 c:4~ 1'I,CiI tir~kr~l for ~1 ~.how ot: h~anci::: c~f. lho ~e
who E>reLurred "neit:her", ~inc:i 2~J ~ncls wer~~ eou-~L!:cl. nnot:h~~r c:it:i•r.eri
c~t~jo<~I~.c~~l t-.c~ lhe cow~t'., sL•atin':J :1% f`,c--~c1:s h~~d Ix~e~i i-uiseci. Mr.. hlor.r.is'
:,~•~~oncl rcar,ticsl. £or a show of hancls o~ t.hos~~ who f'ttvor.ec7 n~i.lhcr ~l.an
,~ ~ilt~~~d in 2~ hunds: bei ny rr.~i.sr.~i.
l,urthcr. vc~l~.iny indicaL-ed ;.he ma:joy°:~ty ~.~r~ferr.rd:
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1_3 sL~ry clc~velopment i.n~en:~it,y, wil.h a few E3-::tory k~uiLd.ings
A p~~zk, c~nn~at:~cl by a qluc~n ar.ea t.o Pear.~c,i~ Par.k, ina]udiny
bi.~y,ele ancl pedestr..ian [J~1LI"ls, and exc:]ud.in~~ watc~r.
Convc~rsion of industr ~::~ t-o COIRI' 'ni r_y usc
13uffc~ring cif. r~ aidential f:rom conuaerci.~zl ,ir<~as
rtimi.r~a~ian of heavy i:raffic from the project area
it~habilit~Cion and reuse o~ residen~ial neigltbozhoods, whnr.e practical.
Reli~bilit~tion and r.ense ot commc+rci.al. pruperty
f'reservation of historical structur-es '
Mixed densit;- rtsidential convc:rtc:d t:o higher d~-..sity rr.sidential on
a lot-by~l~t Lasis
A tra:~spoi.'tation system in the core ar~~A and to the outlyiz~~ areas
Tl-,ere werr r~~~raerous interruptions by Mr. Leitau thrc ut t.hc: voting,
whi~f~ xnterrup~iocis indS.catec~ his desi~:'e to in}~il,it .~ vc~~in~~ process.
At~::r several sus:h interrupt~ons, Mr.. Morris a~d the gentleman to ~
F~~~ quiet. Tr~ r^g~undi.ny shouting and applause of thc c:i.`:izens indi-
cGt~.ci L-heir a~ra~*nen~~ wi1~.Fi Mr. Morris. However, Mr. Le.~itau cor~tinued
in his atkempts to sway ttie mceting f:rom its agenda. I'ollo4~ing further
interrupti.ons, a citizeri took the podium and r~quested that Mr. L'eitau
s~.t down. This was followed by more appla~ise.
Dtr. 'r'red Bro~~an insisted there shoti.ld bF a show oE hands of ~ho~e in
.favor of ~uch energy r~nservation programs as are F'asib~le and ~.~assibl~
in the central core area. Mr. M~x•ris cornp~ied, an~~ the c.itizen~ voted
in f.avor of Mr. Brown's prorosal. ,
Dir. Morris' ixivitation to questions brou~ht forth a citizen's request
f.or the clefiniti~n of "exclusive right" w=th respect to building
negotiations. F~l.lowing Mr. Morris' response, Mrs. Shirley Modl~no
stated the curren~ plans should be label.ed "renovation" rather than
"redevelopment". This is a ncighhorhood redevelopment a.re~t and as
such should use housing funds. "Vlhenever there i~ a u~cision to k~e
made, City Courlcil falls apart. We shauld pic}: thF~ y~~,zt' 1927, restore
Anaheim, and wear costumes with littl.e headba~~ :`~• A', far as i:r~nspor-
tation goes, we could us~ the horse and bugyy.
Mr. Jim Swannick, DATA represcntative, c1':J11t1 p~ ~+SentE~~i the v~.ew~ of
that grou~. ,
Mr. WatY.ins, 1.55 W. Lincoln, fears it will takc: from two to three
years to recJain business lost by a firm which is relocatec~. He is
concerned about higher rents and ask~~ ~hat I.itico:ln be r~paved and
maintained in its present locatiori.
Mr. Fred Brown referred to a letter. which had been presenteii at a
previous meeting, v~hich endorsed ret~lining the curr~nt Rede~elopment
Sta£f. The Planning Commission, the Redevelopment Conunis~ion and
~t~e City Council members all had c:opies ot the letter. SincE thal: t.i~ne
two menibers of the 8taf:f have l.eft. Much t~^~.~ and ef.fort has beeti put
forth by Staff inembers in the c~urse of the:~~.~ eight mer~ti.ngs. We must
bE~ sure City Council d~es not allow othcr S~.~if f mc~~nbers to leave.
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Mr.. Lc~.tau al:~o spake of ~I~e .tncl.i.vicl~.~al.:c wh;.> havc~ wozkc~d "b~~yund th~~
c~il.l of cluty" ancl noL•ed tliul Mr. F'~rn~zl~l i~ nol r~~.~'c~ rntiiglit~, Mr.. I.~c~iL•ati
ur.•gc~cl cit:izens to indicat~~ their ~u~[.~or.t~. ~~f t.tic Skaff und si~~n a].eL•i-.cr
a:~;lcing that Mr. r~arnulcl con~itiue hi.: ef:Co~'~ and noi: be repla~ed• tlc'
has I~roved ha can do lh« ~c~b• Ele ha:~ pro~~en llc~ works liard ar,d di.].I.gent'l.y
wi.i.h his StaEf.. Mr. I,~i.tau f~akec9 t~h~~t. the peaE~lc~ udv.l~a C.it.y c'uunci.l of
i:hc ir fec~li.nyg at ~h~ n~xE Cauncll m~~et~.a.ny.
Mz•. D1or:ri:3 agrerd t:hat tho tnformril:i.on hcis i.o ~)eL to thc~ C.i l~y Cour .. ~.1..
Tt~c Redevelo~monL- Comini.~~.ion wac~ ve:ry di:;al~Pointcd wh~ri t.tic~ s+:.ai~L was,
cut Uack. Th~ Staf:ti i.~ extromcly overwark~~l, ana t}~~y h~~c1 in Ltict h~~~~d
to incrense thc± numt~er of Staff ineml~er.s.
A yentl.eman Atik~cj when the eitizc:r~s mic~ht gct to~7o~hcr sarai.n and have a
maie deiinit.ive pl.nn wi.th r.c~s~~~cL• ta zoning. The gc~~~l~man thinks
citi•r.ens do h~vr ~ pe~rt in the action.~oE City Cauncil, ~ince "we do hav~
aut~.h~~ri~y ir- th~ir. at~luiie3.~~ ~~It we wc.~nr t~~ keep tl~e~e ~eople wc
9tlOll~ l~ take a petition an~l sign it and f~rce the Counci]. to i:ec~p thr~m. "
Mr. Eichrodr stat:ed that na Ac~~on had be~n taken ~n the o~en lettc:r
ref'err.ed to by Mr. IIruwn. "Thc people have sl~own what thc~y wan~, and
thcy have been ignore~7. ~vhat's to keep t}i~ C:r.ty ~~~~ncil fr.om ic~nc~ring
o~,1r plans now't"
Mr.. Moss thanked the citizens for tt~eir ini.crest and lor their pa.rt in
tlie meetings. tI~ assured t'~em input i~rom the~r meet,ings is in~.eed o£
value.
Mr, S].aughter respandad to a question concerning exclusive rights qranced
to developers by the Cit.y. He a~~•ur~d the ~uestioner thaE- such acareements
will have to be consistent wi.th the plan as amp~tded.
Mr. G~orge Laing ayain expressed his feclinc~ that ti new Ci.ty Ha1]. is
pr..iority numher ane. Ile 1:hen poi.nted out that, while :.he roadway aii tti~
drawing is mere].y a black line, it "~vi11. be 120' wid~."
Mr. Nlorr. i.s ~xpreasFd hi~ personal thanks to ~ver;~one who atten~Zed the
m~etings . "No mattex what we do in the future ,:~omebcidy i~.: yoiny to be
mad at us."
The mee~irig adjourned at 9:32 P•M•
R~spectfully submitted,
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.~etsy Jones, Secretary
0 R C~ MICROFIIMING SERVICE, IPlC