Minutes-PC 1979/02/12City Hall
Anehalr~~ Calitornta
February 12~ 1~~9
REGULAR MEETING OF TNE ANANEIM Cli; PLAMNING CQMMISSION
REGULAR - Tiie regular n~etl~g o} the An~hetm Ctty Planntng Commisslon was called to
MEETING order by Chslrmen Herbst st 1=30 p.M.~ Fabruary 12~ 1979~ (n the Cou~ctl
Chomber~ a ~~uorum being p~~sent.
PRESENT • Chatrmens Herbst
Commissloners; Bar~~s~ Davld~ Bushur~, Johnson~ King~ Tolar
ABSENT - Commisstoners: Nnne
ALSO PRFSCNT - Jack Whtte
Jsy Ti tus
Jool Ff ck
Annika Santalahtl
Jsy Tashiro
Robrrt Kelley
Oave Anderson
Edtth N+~rris
Deputy Clty Attorney
Off(cr Enginecr
Assistant Directo~ for Plan~ing
Assistant Director for Zoning
Assoctatc Plannar
Aaaociate Planner
Assistant Planner
Plenning Commiss~~.,~ Secretaryr
PLEDGE OF - The Pledge of Allegisr~e.~ tu the Flsg was led by C~nlsxioner 9arnes.
ALLEGIANCE
APPROVAL OF - Commissioner King offered a mc~tion~ seconded ~y Cqnmissioner Joh~ao~
THE MINUTES and MOTION CARRIEU, pha! the mtnu-es of tt~e meettng ot January 29~ 1979
be approved as submitted,
ITEM N0. PUBLIC HEARING. ONNER: LAS TIENDAS DE YORBA~ 363
El TEGORICAL EXEMPTION-CLASS 1 San Mlgue) Drive~ Newport Beach~ C~1 926b0. AGENT:
• S.G.P.A.~ 440 Upas Street, San Diego, CA 92103.
Petttioner requests WAIVER OF HINIMUM NUMBER OF PARK-
ING SPACES TO CnNSTRUC7 A FAST-FOOD aESTAURANT on
p roperty descrtbed as an irragularly-shaped percel of ~and oonsisttng of approximately 5.0
acrss loc~ted at the northwest co rne~ of Santa Ana Csnyo~ Road and Inipa rtal Highway~
having approxtmate frontag~s of 700 feet on the north side of Santa Ana Canyon Rc~a~d and
520 feet on the west side of lmperial High~vay~ and further described as 5555 East Santa
fina Canyon Road. Property presently classified CL(SC) (C4MMERCIAL~ LIMITEO-SCENIC
CORRlpOR OVERLAY) ZO~~E.
It -vas noted th~ pettttoner had requested that consideration of the afo~ementioned ttem be
wi thdra~wn.
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ITEM N0. 12 PU81.IC HEARING. OMNERSt IIlENEO G. AND EMELITA A.
'ET~"'CIITC~ICAL EXEMPTION-CLASS 1 MUNOZ~ 1303 J~smt~e Pl~ce~ Anah~im~ CA 92801.
~etitloner requasts p~rmt~~lon to ESTAOLiSH A NEALTH
. 1945 SPA AND MASSAGE PARLOR WITH wA1VER OF (A) MINiMUl9
~ NUMBER OF PARKINO SPACES AND (B) LOCATION OF PARKING
spaces o~ prop~rty describ~d ss a rectangularly-
sheped parc~l of land conslsttng ot epp roxtmaRely 61~0 square }~et loceted at th~
southwest corn~~ of Lincoln Avenue and Bush Streat~ havtng approxtm+~te frontage~ of 50
taet o~ th• south xlde of Lincoln Avenue and 125 f~at o~ the weat stde of Bush Street~ and
further descrlbed es 924 E~~t Ltncoln Avenue. P~operty prosently classifled CL
(COMMERCIAL, LIMiTEQ) ZONE.
lt w~s noted thst the •toramantloned it~m was advertlsad wtth the In wrrect locatton and
that tha matter should be continued in order for staf( to reedvertlse~ showing the proper
loutlan of aubJect property.
ACTION: Co~~misatoner To1ar ofFered a motton~ smconded by Commisatoner D~vid end MOTION
~D~ that the Mahclm CI ~y Plann(ng Commtsston dc~es hareby cont(nue conslderetion of
Petitton for Condltionai Use Permtc No. 1945 to the regularly-scheduled nreettng ot
Febr~a ry 26. 1979~ tn order far staff to readvn~tiae subJect petttton.
ITEM N0. 1 CONTINUEQ PU~LIC HEARING: PLOTKIN-ROSEN OEVEi.OP-
~~~VE DECLA~tATIQN MENT CO.~ 13352 Mashington Boulev~rd~ Los A~geles,
COND 0 AL U E M N0. 192C CA 90066. AGENTt FRANCHISE REALT' INTERSTATE
CORP.~ 10960 Wllshire 8oulovard~ Los Angeles~ CA
g0024. Pstitioner ~equests permission to ESTABLISH
A ORIVE•THROUGN RESTAURANT on property desc~ibed as a rectanqularly-shape~ pbrcel of land
consisttng of epproximately 0.8 acre having a frAntage of approximately 125 feet on the
east slde of Euclid Street~ h~vtng a maximum depth of approximately 272 feet~ and being
locatad approxlmately 995 feet north of the centerl~ne of Crescent Avenue. P~ope~ty
presently classifted CL (COMMERCIAL~ IIMITED) ZONE.
SubJect petitton was co~tinuad from the meetings of Dec~rtber 4 and 18~ 1978 and Janu~ry 3~
15 and 29~ 1979 at the ~equeat of the ~etitionPr.
There was no one indlcating thQir presence in o{~position to s~bJect reques:, and Although
the ststf report to the Plann~ng ConMnission datcd February 12~ 1979 ~as not ~ead at the
publtc hearing~ it ts referred to 9nd made a part of the minutes.
David Carey, 9z72 Greenwich. Anaheim~ was present to answer any questlons.
THE PUBLIC NEARING WAS CLOSED.
Chairm8n Herbst indicsted his concern regarding the Trsffic Englneer's recommendation
concerntng th~s drivew~y to the north.
Mr. Carny explained that the adJ~tning prope~ty is part of Che proJect.
Chalrman kerbst Indicated his only concern had bsen the drlveway and if thet was agreaable
to both partles~ the~ he had no further questions.
ACTION: Commisaioner Kin~ offered e motlon~ seco~ded by Commissioner David and MOTIOH
t~0~ that the Anaheim City Plannin9 Conanisslo~ has ~evte~ed the proposat to permtt a
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MINUTCS~ ANANEIM GITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ FEBItUl1qY S2~ 1979 79•101
E, IR NEGATIVE DECLARATION ANO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 1920 (wntinued)
dri~s-through rescaurant on a recr~nguls~lr-shep~d parcel of land consisting of
approximatoly O.g acre having a frantege of epproxtmately 125 feet on th• east side of
Euclid Street~ havtnfl a msxfmum depth of approximately 272 teet~ and befng loc~ted
approximately 995 f~et no~th of the centerline ot Croscent Ave~ue; en d does hereby approve
ths Negetive D~claration from the requtrement ta prepara Nn environme nta) Imp~ct report on
che bssit that thera would ba no algntftcent tndividual or cumulative adverse
~nvironment~l impact du~ to thc spproval of this Negettve Declaratton stnce the Anahetm
Ganersl Plan destgnates tl~e subJect property for general commerclal la~d uses can~nensur~te
wtth the prop~~al; that na se~attive envfronmental tmpacts are (nvolve d In the ~roposel;
that the Initlel Study submitted by che petitloner Indicetes no significarrc indivtdual or
cumulativ~ adverae e~vironmental Impacis; and that the Negettve Decla ratlon subatantiating
the foreyolny f tn~linys is on fi le (n the Ctty of Anaheim Pl~nn(ng Departn+ent.
Commissianer King o1'fered Rasc-lution No. PC7g-28 and moved for tt: passA9e and adoptlan,
that the Anshelm Cil.y Planning Commission does hereby gr~nk Petltion for Conditional Use~
Parmlt No. 1920~ subJett to the property betng dev~loped substanttally tn eccordance with
precisr~ ~lans as presenteci and subJect to Interdepartmental Committe e recommendatlons.
On rc,l~ call~ the forec~oiny resolutlon was passed by the following vo te;
AYES: COMMIS5104~RS: BARNFS~
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS; NONE
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EIR- N- E A E DECLARATION
C or~ , ~79-27
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D ONAL llSE E MI N0. 1936
cente~ltne of Orange Avenue, and
presencly ciasslfied RS-A-43~000
BUSHORE~ DAVID~ liERI3ST~ JOHNSON~ KING~ TOLAR
CONTINUED PUBLIG kEARING. 04M 'c RS: JONATNAN T. Y.
YEH~ ET AL. 420 South Beach Bo ulevard~ Anahcim~ CA
92804. Praperty described as a rectangularly-shaped
parcel of land consfsting of approximately 138 feet
on the east side of Beach Boule vard~ hav(ny a
maximum depth of approxfmately 23$ feec, being
located approximately ;28 feet north of the
further described as 420 South Beach Boulevard. Property
(RESIUENTIAL/A.GRICULTURAL) ZONE.
REQUESTEp CLASSIFICATION: CL (COMMERCIAL. LIMITED) ZONE.
REQUESTED COF~DITIONAL USE: TU EXPAND :,~ F. ;ISTINC MOTEL 4JITH WAIVER OF MAXIMUM
STRUCTURAL HE i GFIT.
SubJect petitlon was continued from the meeting of Janua ry 29, 1979 a t the request of the
petttioner.
There was no one indicating their presence in oppositlon to subJect request, and although
the staff report to the Planning Commission dated Februa ry!2, 1979 rva s not read at the
publlc hea~iny~ it is referrcd to and made a part of the minutes.
Jay Tashtro~ Assoclate Planner~ pointed out a correction to the staff report, Condition
No. 6 of the Interdepartmental Commlttee recommendations shculd be amended~ as foliav~:
"That Condttion No. 4~ above mentioned......"
Jonachan Yeh~ owner~ was present to answer eny questions.
THE PUBLIC HEARI'VG WAS CLASED.
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MINUTES~ ANIWEIM CITY PI.ANNING COMMISSION. fEBAUAItY 12~ 1979 79•102
A TION. RE~,~ASS~,~'ICATION NQ, 78- •2j AN~ f~ONDIT ONAL U5~ ~ti~T._.,~Q,..1,,, 936
Caemissioner Tolar stated his concesrn rep~rding th~ two-story units ab~etting the single-
famity residsnces ~~d polnted out the Commtesio~'s pollcy does nnt pe~mit two-sto~y units
wlthin 15Q feet of resldences. He explained h• dld not have •ny basic obJectlon to th~
nwte) axpa~slon and folt there is room for expanslon~ tiut could ~ot support th~ Mo-story
units backing up to the residences. He indicated there were problems also in relatlonship
to th~ pool area and the trash ~enclosure aroa aetbacks.
Mr. Yeh replled he hed )ust followad the general practice of other motels In the area~
palntt~g out that a lot of them are two-story.
Chatrman Flerbst explained the plana show the units 7 feet from the property iine adJacent
to raside~tial homes and thet two-story untts would ~lock off a good perce~tage of the
119ht and et r to those homes and could be det.rlmental to thelr p~operttes.
Commiss loner Davi d asked i f the other two-s tor~ un i ts t n the erea were to the south of
this prapsrtr and if they we~e backtng up to ro~identlal properties~ end Mr. Yeh rsplled
that they ware.
Commissioner Johnson indfc~ted therc wss no prol~lem with heving two-storyr units on the
prop~rty~ but that Che problam Is the locatton ot the twa-story untts i+butting
restdenttal.
Commisslone~ Barnes expiafned che Plsnnl n~ Cortimiss ton usu~l ly requt res single-taml ~y
bulldtngs to be located 20 feet from the p~operty line edJacent to single-famtly
residentlal areas~ a~d if two-stary units are p'.aced that close to the property line~ atr
circulatto~, awilight~ etc.~ would be blocked for these residents. She stated she wsY not
opposed to the two-story units on the iwrthcrn portion ot thc property.
Commisaloner Johnson asked staff if these aspects of the proJect had been discussRd with
the applicent.
M~. Wang~ archltect~ expletned the setbwek requirement in the coerne~cia) zone Is 10 feet
and that they are requesttng the setbac-c at 7 feet t~ comply with the extst(ng building.
He explained the bui lding on the property behind subJect •~roperty is lac~ted 25 teet from
the property 1 (ne.
Conmissione~ Barnes stated the Plarning Commission has never approved a request such as
this since she has been on the Conmissio~~ and pointed ou¢ therc are diffe~ences tn the
setbacks in the ~rea because the developments we~e do~e before the present ordlnances were
adopted~ or were developed under County standards a tong tlme ago.
Commisstoner Bushore asked what ts located south ~of the motel.
Mr. Wang ststed the two-story rrotel he had ~eferred to v+as completed last year at 328
North Seach 6oulevard (the King's Motel} end had a 10-foot setback.
Commiss(oner Bushore asked if the petitio~er would like a continua~ce in order to radesig~
the proJect to move the Mo-StorY units eaey from the residential ares a~nd relocate th~
s~imning pool so It Is not locaced on the p~operty itne.
Mr. Wang stated he could request a conti ~uence and then he pofnted out they are proposing
addl tional unl ts on the east s i de wi th a 10-foot setba~ck and asked i f that aoul d be
allowed.
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MINUT~S, ANANEIM ClTY PLANNIN6 COPM~IISSIOH~ FEBRUARY 12~ 1979 79-~Q3
E1R_NEGATIYE D CLARATION. RECI,ASSIFICaT1QN N0. j8-79-~7 AND CONDITIQ~AL USE PERMIT N0. 1936
Cc„nmissione~ Johnson asked far clartficatton from staff regarding the aetbecks, snd Jsy
Tashlro~ A•soclace Planner~ expletned the structu~~l height Is based c~n a 2:1 ratlo a~d
the exls!~ng natel has a 1•f~t setbeck~ whtch would pe~mli a 3-1/2 foot tsll structure~
~nd • ~~-foot high structure es proposed Nou~d requlre a;S-foot setback. He explalned
the petittoner has thA option ot developing a stngle-sto ry unit and malntaining an 18 to
20-foot •etback tn o~der to comply wi xh the code.
Gommisatoner Johnson stated rlght now he could not support this proposal for a two-sto ry
structur~ egainst a residenttal area with a 10-fuot setback~ pofnting out that one-~tory
is permtttmd and exceptlons h~ve ~een made betause the formule does n~t work out exactly~
but that the exceptions are not mede for two-sto ry units.
Chatrman Herbst expleined the extsting singie-sto ry untxs do not meet current ordinances
which requlre 20-foot setb~cks; that tlie extsting structurc ts set baGk 7-1/2 ~eet ~nd the
request ts for a two-sto ry unit~ whlch compounds the situation. Ne steted he would
support leaving the sl~qle-scory units tn line with the existlnq structures~ but could not
support the twasto ry untts. He stated the Plsnning Commtssion is quite adamant ln
protecting the restdential t~tegrity of the canmu~ity. He stated the plan hes problems
wtth twa-story u~lts abutting residential and a minor probiem with the fror.t setback~
whfch could be eltminated by setting the pool further back and provtding a 3~foot
landscaped area alo ng the f!ont.
Commtssioner Tolar asked the petitlo~er (f h~ Nould like to request a two-week
continuance~ and he Indicated that he would.
It was noted revise d plans would have to be submitted to staff by F~iday in order to
appear on the next agenda.
ACTION: Commissloner Tolar offe~ed a motlon~ secanded by Commissioner Johnson and MOTEON
~D~ that consideration of the aforementioned item be continued to the regula rly-
schedultd meeting of the Anaheim Clty Plannin9 Commission on Februe~ry 26~ 197g~ as
requested by the pe ttttoner in urder to submtt revised plans.
ITEM N0. 3 PUBLIC HEARING. ONNERS: PAUL KOURI~ 3621 Century~
R N A VE DECLA RATION Sutte 8, Lynwood, Cr~ 90262 and ROBERT 0. GUYOT~
__ ~_ 9-28 126) North Gtlbert. Fulle~ton~ Ca 92b33. Petitioner
requests reclassiii~etion of property desc~ibed as
an i~regularly-shaped parce~ of land conststing of
approximately 2.9 a cres having a frontage of epproxlmately 919 feet on the !~outh side of
Orangetho~pe Avenue, having a maximum de~th of approxtmately 121 feet. being located
approximately 945 feet east of the cent~rline of Miller Street~ and further described as
3500 East Orangetho rpe Avenue~ frvm the ML (INDUSTRIAL, LIMITED) to the CL (COMM~Q~IAL~
LIMITED) 20NE~
Thsre wes no one indir.at~ng their presence in opposition to sub,ject request~ and ~lthough
the staff reporC to the Planning Commtsston deted February 12~ 1979 was ~ot raid at the
publtc hearing~ It ts referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Robert Guyot~ petttioner~ was present to answer quest(ons.
THE PUBLIC HEARING VAS CLOSED.
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EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND RECLASSIFICATION N0. 78-79-28 (continuad)
Commissloner Johnso~ polnted out the Clty of Anahetm ha~ baen trying ta ~etein the
tnduatrlal propertles for industrla) ~sos and ~sknd wh~t conrne~cial use~ are planned for
thls proJect.
Mr. Guyot replted the uses would be limited to commercfal such as fur~iture or Interior
decorato~s. He pointed out there would be ~o ~astu~rants or anything of thst klnd thac
would requtre a lot ~f psrkfng. He explained fo~ all (ntents ~nd purposes this property
is located tn the City of Placentla and that he ts dratntng 19 ecrcl of Placentia property
(~to his drafnage system, and po(nted out that economically he needed to heve commercta)
u~es.
Commtss(oner Johnson statccl there wes no b~g problem with the proJect and he understood
why the request Is betng made. He potnted out thls ts en (soleted pe~cel ~nd he had hoped
the retdtl uses might lean taverds the r,ommerctal community~ ~nd asked tf the~ewere a tot
of commerciai uses i~ thec eres.
Mr. Guyot stetad across the street and up Chapman (s residential property (R-t) and next
to him is commercial p rope~ty. Ne pointed out Placentia has zoned the propcrty for
coim-a r c t a 1.
Comm(sstaner King asked Mr. Guyot to stlpulate thaC th~ uses wlll only include retall
shops wlth no uses requlring higher Intens(ties of parking, and Mr, Guyot replted he was
willtng to stipulate to thet Conditlon.
ACTtON: Commisstoner Ktng offered a mottan~ seconded by Cammissioner Dsvid and MOTION
C~1tR~ED~ that the Anaheim City Plann(ng Commisslon has revlewed the proposel to reclasslfy
the sub ect property from thn ML (Industrial, Limited) 2one tu the CL (Cam~erclal~
Limited~ tone on an irregularly-shaped parcel of land consisting ~f approxtmately 2.9
acres having a frontage of approximately 9ig faet on thc south stde of Orangethorp~
Avenue, heving a maximum depth of approximately 121 feet~ being locaCed approxlmately 945
feet east of the ccnterline of Miller St~eet; and does hercby approve the Negattve
Declaration from ti~e requl~ement to prepare an environmental impact report on the basis
that there would be no significant Individual or cumulat(ve advErse environmental impact
dua to the approva) of this Negative Decla~ation since the Maheim Generat Pla~ deslgnates
the subJect property for uater/low-medium density restdcnt(al tand uses conrriensurate with
the proposal; that no scnsittve environmentat lmpacts are Involv~d in thc proposal; that
the (nttia) Study submltted by the petitioner ind(Gates no signtftcant indtvtdual or
cumulative adverse environmental impacts; and that che Negative Declaration substantiating
the foregoing findings is on ~ile tn the City of Anaheim Planning Department.
Commisslonar King offered Resolution No. PC79-29 and moved for tts passage and adoptfon~
that the M aheim Ctty Plaiini~g Commission does hereby grant Petitlon fo~ Reclassificatlon
No• 78-79~28, subJect to the stipulatlon by the appl(cant that the sub)ect commercia)
ce~ter wi 11 (nclude only retai 1 shops and that uses requi ring hig;~ parktng intensities,
such as restaurants~ wtll not be permitted, and subJect to the condition tFat the property
shall be developed substantially ln accordance with precise plans as p~esentQd, and
subject to I~terdzpartmental Committee recortr~n~!ations.
On roll call, the foregoing ~esolutton was passed by the followi~g vote:
AY~S: COHMISSIONERS: BARNES~ BUSHORE. DAVID~ iiERBST~ .IONNSON~ KING~ TOLAR
NOES: COMMISSIONERS~ NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
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~1R~1 EGATIVE_~ECLARATION AND aECLASSIFICATION N0. 76-79-28 (conttnued)
Commissioner B~rnes explalned she felt thls property is different~ polnttng out she Is
usually oppased to this type of request~ but supported this requ~st because ahe felt this
p~ope~ty Is far rsrro vcd fram a~y othor Industrl~) propertins end is zo~ed for commercla)
uaes In the City of Placentia and borders a~ thelr city limits~ end ahe dtd not fee) tfo
prope~ty londs (tself to i~dust~tal us~.
ITEM N0. 4 PUBIIC NEARING. OWNEkS: FRNEST A. AND DONNA J. DROWN.
~~E~rVE DECLARATiON 2224 South Le~wis 5treet, Anehetm~ CA 92E302. AGENT;
~_,,, • 79-29 INVESTORS DEVEl.OPMfNT OF ORANGE COUNTY~ iN~. ~ 1345
North Grand Avenuc~ SantA Ana~ CA 92701. Petitlo~er
requests recl~ssiftcetion of prop~rty deacrtbed as an
irreguterly-sheped pArcel of land conststing of approximately 0.8 acre hevtng a frontage
of approximately 1F30 feet on the east side of Lewts Strect. having a rrwximum depth of
approximaYely 217 feeC~ being located spproxtinately 1160 feet aouth of the conter~tne of
O~angewood Avenue~ and further described as 2224 South Lewts StreeC~ from the RS-A-43,Q~U
(RESIDENTIAL/AGRICUL7UR/IL) to the RM-120Q (RESIDENTIAI.~ MULTIPLC-FAMILY) ZONE.
There wss no one Indtcating their presence In opposition to subJect request, and elthough
the staff report to the Planniny Commisslon dated Februa ry 12~ 197~ was not read at the
public hearlny~ it (s referred to and made a pert of the mtnutes.
Jeck Davis~ Investors Devel~pment of Orange County~ inc.~ 131~5 North G~end Avenue. Santa
Ana~ stated the pr~Ject is for 10 units and does meet the requlrements of the zoning
requested; that the units Irs the front are one-story and wi11 appear as large homes; and
that one duplex end two fourplexes ~re propostd, Ne statcd he would like to discuss xhe
Traff(c Engineer's reconwnendatlon that the proposed drlvdvay be real(gned fo eliminate
potentla) tr~ffic safety problems, and explained trafftc from Unit C(the duplex) would be
back(ng out onto lewts Street and noted ihe proJcct had been degtgned in this fashton
because there a~e other properties (n the area wi~ich da back o~at onto Lew(s Street.
Cammissioner Bushore ask,ed M~. Davts whet other properties back out onto Lewls~ and he
replied that they are further south.
Mr. Oavts ind(cated the p~oJect could be redeslgned and planned so that the trafftc from
Untt C would not be backing out onto Lewis Street, but he was concern~d about reallgning
tt-e drl veway between Un i ts A and B and moving t t 30 fest aouth ~o al t gn wl kh S(mmons
Avenue~ indicating he did not belleve that was part of the code. He explalnAd tf the
driveway is moved 30 feet, therc wlll be approximately a 14-foot strip along the side of
the property. Ne stated !f he could work wtth the Commtssion and not change that
drlveway~ he would be willing to stipulate to changtng the other driveway so that traffic
does not beck ouc onto Lewis Street.
Chairme~ Herbst polnted out there Is no turn~-around area shown f4r tfie trasl~ t~ucks~ end
askad what Is proposed fnr trash collection.
Mr. Davls explained in this type situatton they use a flatbed cart and regular trash
contatners and the cart is putled out to the curb and the trash Ts cotlected at the curb;
that the carta are kept in the separete~ e~closed trash areas and each uni*_ has its own
enclosed traah area.
Commissioner Bushore asked who would be responsible for pulling the carts out to the curb.
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITIf PLANNING COMMISSION. FEBRUARY 12• 1979 79~~06
EIR NEG_TIVE DECIARATION AND RECLASSIFICATION N0. 78-7~ ~~~ttnued)
Mr. Davis replled th~ir company usualiy rotains approximately one-half af the unlts they
bulld and thair manegement company would see thet thA trash Is teken ce~e af and if they
sel) ths units~ the owne~ would be r~sponsible for it. He explalned they have hed no
problems in the paat and have bullt spproxtmately 500 u~6ts using this sarne sttuatlon.
Comml sslar..,r Bushare was concernad that there coul d be un i ts wl th absentee owner~ and that
the unlts would be managed by • property menagament oomPany and it would be their
responsibtlity ~~o come over and pull the trash out to the curb.
Commisstoner Tolar indicated ~.oncern regarding the trash and felt it could be a problem
and that It must be taken care ot at thts level; thdt tt ts imp~obabla that thts company
w~~~ ~;, ;~.~ ~~nics fnrever and the units are smsll And if they did have proparty
mentgeme~t~ he did not think they would cane over n~-~ pu~! :t;c tr~eh cert out to the curb.
He stated h3 was not sure thts w~uld be e yood u~e for this property. fle tndtcated hts
other concer~ was traffic backing out onxo Lewts Straet and sta:e~i he did not know of any
other p noJects with this sltuation and if there ere others, did not thlnk that makas tt
rtght for this proJect to be devetoped in thts sa~me manner, even though he recogntzad
eve ry resldentiel structure backs out onto the str~et~ but nated Lewis Street Is a busy
streat.
Jay Titus~ Office Engineer, statod the traffic has tnc~eased subst~entlally on Lewis Street
recently and Manchester further south was realigned~ which brought more traffic onto Lewis
which previously had used Manchester.
Mr. Davis st:ted he would stipulatc to rea~~ange Unit C so that it Nill not beck out onto
Lewis 5treet.
Commissioner t~lar stated he was not sure what this property would be best sulted for and
felt maybe the cemete ry should purchase lt~ but f~1t tha problems~ including the alignment
with Simmons~ lle in having too many units on the prop~rty.
Mr. Davis stated no n~atter what I s developed on the property. to try to al ign the driveway
with Simn~ns would be a~~roblem.
Commissioner Toler statcd he agreed it would be a problem to atign the drtveway with
Simmo~s~ but stlil felt there ls too much development on this property and felt the
problems could be rectified with ~edesign.
Commtssio~er Bushore stated he did not ~emember any proporties that backed out onto Lewis
snd stnce trsffic has tncreased cansiderably on that street. recently, he could not support
the pro,ject with the traffic and trash situation. Ne stated since the property abuts the
cemete ry~ he would have no obJection if the setback r~ere less, and suggested moving the
units claser to the cemetery.
Mr. Davis stated they have a great deol of open space behind the proJect and they are well
belaw the requircments for density.
Commissio~er Tolar statcd we all understand we are playing games wtth the numbers; that
every proJect must stand an its own merits and you cartnot hang your hat on the nun~bers~
and stated these problems must be resolved before he can support the proJect.
Commisstoner Ki~g stated he would not agree with Commissioner Tolar regardi~g thn density;
th~t the Commission is constantly talking about [he need for law and moderate income
houstng so that young couples and the elderly un fixed ~ncomes can afford housing.
2/12/79
MINUTES. AHAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMNISSION~ FEBaU~RY 12. 1q79 19•~~1
EIR NE'ATIVE DE~LARAT~I N, ANQ,$~tt etSIFICATI0N~N8. 78-79~29 (contlnued)
Commisaloner Ba~nes stated she Is not oppo~ed to the density~ but Lhst ahe ts co~cerned
about tho trash situAtlon and f~lt those trash encloture A~ea~s are a long way fran the
curb end it would be difficult co move the t~ash out to the curb.
Mr. Davis explatned the trash Zart is pulled to the curb ~nd tl~ey hsve thls same sltuatlon
in meny of their untts and tt has not bee~ e problem a~d the trash has always bser~ pfcked
up at the curb.
Gommlasloner Cavid askod whc mi+kes tl~e Judgme~t regardiny the trash situation. ond Jay
Tashiro replted that the Saryltat~on Dtvislon makes the final detorminatlon concerning tho
trash locattons and pick-up ~nc1 they norrtu+lly would ltke to see same sort of turn-around
provided on the propcrty.
Cortmilss(oner David stared obvtously this small percel cannot provide a turn-around on-~~t~
end asked how Mr. Oavts c~n communicntr. co the staff thet he intends to use the cert-type
t~ash remaval.
Jay Tashiro answered that one of the conditions included in the approval would be that the
trash enclosure area be pr~vided (n accorJance wlth approvel of the Dlrector of Public
Works~ And that it would be up ta Mr. Davis to s~Clsfy the Sanltation Div(sion.
Chalrman Herbsc felt the acceptance of the trash locattons should be noted an the plans by
the Senitatlon Divlsion before ttie Planniny Commissian hears the proJect.
Jay Tasi~Iro scated tn the past approv~~l has been granted with the condition regarding the
trash and when the plans are presented to the Sanitatlo~ D(vislon and ~re not acceptable~
the pro)ect has to be redcsiyned.
Chairman Herbst stated when trash Is Involved in a proJect~ Sanitation Dlvislon approval
should be gotten befor~ the Planning Cortmission hears the proJect because (t does cause
the petltioner to spend mare time and money~
Cammissioner Barnes stated a 10-unit apartment proJect would produce a tremendous ~mcount of
trash and felt a big cart would be necessary to move tt to the curb.
Mr. Davts explalned this (s a low-bed cart and they have used tt for many yea~s; that one
cart wil) be provided for each fourplex and one for the duplex~ so there will be three
separate carts.
Chairman Herbst statad he rGCOgnized Untt A could be moved to the rear of the property~
but he dtd not thtnk It would beauttfy the proJect; that they are g~ing to have a nice
landscaped area in the frnnt ar~d stated it could be arrang~d th~at the trash could be
picked up by the dumpster~ but it would ruin the aesthetic value of the property.
Commissioner Tolar asked the petitio~er if he wauld Itke a two-week contlnuance in order
to radesig~ the proJect to rectify these minor problems wOthout reducing the density~ and
Mr. Davis indfcated he wou{d like e c4ntinuance.
ACTION: Commisstoner Tolar offered a mation~ seconded by Commissianer Bushore and MOTtON
C~ ED~ that consideretion of Petition for ReclassiPicatiun No. 78-79-29 be continued to
the regularty-scheduled meeting oi the Anaheim City Planning Cammission on February 26,
197g~ in order for che petitioner co s~mit revised plans.
2/12/79
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, February 12, 1979 79-108
ITEM N0. 6 PUBLIC HEARING. OWNF.RS: CNARLES AND PATSY CUNDIFF~
~EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION 1141 North Cosby Way, Suite A, Anaheim, CA 9280h.
CONUITIONAL USE_PERMIT No, 1944 AGENt: ANANEIM 191L15 COMMUNITY CHURCN, 5207 East
Orangethurpe, Anahe(m, CA 92807, petitlanCr requests
permission to ESTADLISH a, CHURCH IN THE ML ZONE on property d~scribed as an trregularly-
shaped ~arcel of land consisling of approximately 0.1 acre having a frantaye of ~pproxi-
mately 20 fret on the north side of Le Palma Avenue, having a m~xim~.im dPpth of approximately
340 feet~ being locat.ed approximatcly 534 f~et west of the centerl ~~e of Lakeview Av~nue,
and further descr(bec~ as 4421 East la Palma Avenue. Property presently classified ML(SC)
(INDUSTRIAL~ LIMITED-SCENIC CORRIDOR OVERLAY) ZONE.
There was no one indicating their presence in ofioosition to ~ubject request and although
the staff report to the I'lanning Commission dated February 12, 1979, was not read at the
public hearing, it is referred to and made d part ot the minute5.
Gary DeV~~ul, Pastor of Anaheim Hills Community Church, stated [his church is sponsored
by the Reformed Church in America and is ~ spin-uff uf th~ GarJen Grove Communfty Ch~rch;
that they have moved into the Anaheim Hills ai•ea beGause there is a lack of churches t.here
and are now m~eting at the Vista del Rio Jr. Hic~h Schoc~l. He stated [he Code permics churches
in che ML(Industrial, Limited) zone ancf explalned they are asking for a temporary conditional
use perrnit for approximately two years so they can financially make their way into Anaheim
Hills pr~per and be able ta afforci to purchase land there. He stated they are in the pro-
cess of purchasing the subject property.
Comrnissioner Bushure stated land in Anaheirn Hills is scarce and very exNensive and asked
where they plari to purchase it.
Mr.De Vaul stated they do not have the land to build theii~ permanen[ churc:h at the present
time and explained it is their d~sire to take the money they are payiny the school district
(51,400 per month for the use of the School) and put it into a b~~ilding and property in
order to build equity and then be able in the next two years to pur;.hase property ta bu~ld
a permanent church. hle stated they have found property in Anaheirn Hills is $250,000 an
acre for cammercial property and $120,000 up for residential property and a lot of the
property they have looked at has been in the mid~le. uf a gulley or something like that.
Commiasioner Bushore asked if they plan to have weddings and things of that sort at the
church and if they plan to have evening prayer meetings al the church.
hlr.De Vaul replied there would be very little activity in che evening and their primary
usage would be non-business hours.
Commissioner Bushore pointed out the staff report states the facility will be used for
Sunday assemblies. He asked if the facility would be used f~r fund raising activities
such as bingo and Mr.De Vaul replied they have never had Co raise funds like that in
their church.
Cammissioner David clarified the
of two years and asked why the p
Mr. DeVaul repl ied tl~at was what
and had said they only wanted it
use permit. He stated he wanted
into an industrial area forever.
tonditional use p~rmit could be granted for a period
etitioner had indicated the permit could not be temporary,
he was led to believe; that he applied for the perrnit
f~r a temparary period and was instructed to file for a
the Commission to know that they did not want to move
2/1?/79
MINUTES~ AMAHF.IM CITY PI,ANNINf COMMISSION, February 12. 197y 79-1~9
EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION CONOITIONA~ USF. PERMIT N0. 1 49 4(continued)
Commissioner Oavid stated the perrnit could be yranted for a dclermiued amount of tir-~
and the use would b~ temporary ~nd lndicated he has no problem wlth thr. requcst.
Commissioner Barnes asked how lony it would t~~kE to find the property for the permanent
church and Mr. Duvall replled they have set a goal of two years.
Commissioner l~lar indicated he has some real questions about this in relatlonship to
why they had cliosen a site right in thc middle of an industrial park.
Mr,peVaul stated thry h~d ch~5en the SItP_ because it was cheap enouqh fc>r thern to purrh.~se
n~r an~i start building equ(ty, and secondly~ because it is easier for them to mc~ve in and
ouC and will allow them to get chelr operat(on under onc roof because at the present
time they are having to rr~ ve all lheir eyuiNn~;nl (Nui~~it5, organ5,etc.) into the ~chool
and they have also chasen this site because it is in the middle ~f the ~irea tfiey have
chasen to minister to.
Commis~ioner Bushore clarified that the subJect property is being purchased rather than
leased and inclicated it was his feeling that .a problen, will be built in and felt with the
difficulty in ffnding lan~~ in the Anaheim Hills ~~rea th~r this church will be at this
location for the next 15 years.
Mr, DrVaul stated they could not afford t~~ buy the land right now and this is an inter-
mediate place.
Commissioner Bushore stated the Commfssion has been qettin7 a lot of pressure to leave
the industrial area as industrial and indicated as far as he was concerned since they
are buying the property, chey will be there permanently.
Mr. D~~Vaul replied they want this building for a maximum Uf twa years and emphasized
that they do not want to be in an industrial area for any 15 ycars and stated they could
not possibily minister to the community frcm an indus~rial bullding for 15 years.
Commissioner Bushore asked how long they have been established and how many members the
church currentlyhas and Mr.DeVaul slated they have been in the area for approximately
five months and have approximately 200 members in the congregation,
Commissioner Tolar st~;ted he admires these people trying to build a church in the canyon
area and felt it i5 neecled and pointed out the protlem of buying land is their problem
and che Planning Commission has to consider the land use; that he has heard a lot about
breaking down the industrial area in relationship r.o othe~ uses and dld not see how the
Commission, in all goud conscience, could a~~prove a request even for a temporary use
when they have not allowed other uses even in the so called buffer zune between the
freeway and the industrial area. He indicated he could not support this use even on a
temporary basis and felt calling this a temporary use is somewhat playing with semantics
even though he understood their intentions and believed what they are saying is what they
totally believe; however, he could not envision that in two ye~~rs they could find property
and would be requesting extensinns of time on this use.
Mr. DeVaul asked if he wauld not consider the use compatible if there is na industry
going on while they are there.
Commissioner Tolar stated there have been several ~equests before the Commissfon for
churches in the industrial area and just recently the Commission has had several
2/12/19
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, February 12, 1979 79-I10
EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Nq. 1~44 (contin~hd}
requests for furnitures stores in the Industrial area and they have all uscd the same
arguments; that they will be using the facllity during non-business hours and would not
be competing in terms of traffic, etc. He stated industrial parks are net designed
~or this type pf use and he fPlt as the c~ngregation qrows thcy wil) be want(ng to use
the facil(ty for n(ght services :~r.~ ~ther types of uses which will conflict with i~~e
industrial park.
Mr. DeVaul replied there is nothing they could hold during business hours because they
cannot service the community dur(ng business hourr,.
Chairman Herbst stated industrialists have a lendency to work 24 hours a day, sevFn days
a week at times and puinleJ uut thcrc arc ~o^~c r~ther i,r?N huildin~s in this area and
if they are wnrking ~in Sundays, where would the congregation park?
Mr.DeVaul explained they do have reci~~rocal pirkiny aqreements witF. the ~eople who
are there now and ttiey are very happy to have the church there.
Chairman Herbst stated he could see problems and Gould not support a church at this
location; that if il was an isolated parcel or i~ a fringe area on a temporary basis.
that he might consider it, but since it will be in the mi.ldle of an industrial park
and there i~ not enough parking ~n site to take car~~ of the situation and as these
buildings become occupied and industries need to work on Sundays, there will be
parking problems,
Steve Hillard, Attorney and member of the church~ presented a le[tc:r frum one of the
occ~~pants of one of the buildings intt~e complex expressing their pleasure with tl~is use
and the reciprocal parking agreement because of the lack of F~~rkiny during business hours
and indicated he thoughc this would help facilitate the industria! uses of the property.
He explained [his is the only occupant of any of the buildings at che present time.
Chai~-man HerbsC did not think even with a reciprocal parking agreement with only one
tenant th~re would be enough parking and Mr. Hillard replied he felt this type arrangement
would bP agreeable throughout the complex because of the nature of the use and the fact
the business hours are opposite.
Chairman Herbst did not agrPe t!~at Che hours would be opposite pointing out he is an
industrialist and there are times when they are working 24 hours a day. 7 days a week.
Mr. Hillard stated he thou9ht that was the exception rather than the rule. He added that
a church function within the ind~strial zone is one of the uses which is allowed with
approval of a conditionai use permit and did not think a church is tatally inconsistent
with the industrial atmosphere or it would be out~ide the scope of that zoning.
Chairman Herbst explained th~ requirement for the conditional use permit is to a11ow
the Planning Co~xnission to determine whether or not the locatian is compatible with
the use.
lir. Nillard felt a church is more con~patible irs an industrial area than any cther area
except farmland because they w~uld nvt be blocking driveways ar bothering the neighbors
during sleeping hours or having choir practice that will wake ;he neighbors and for the
most part would not be bothering a~yone and felt this would be the ideal spot for a church.
2/12/79
MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ February 11, 1979 79~111
EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION CONDITIONAL U5E PERMIT N0. 1944 (continued)
-______w~_ -`-r._
Commissioner Johns~n suggested the petitioners should tread lightly and lry very slowly
to change the direction af the Commission's thinking bec~3use telling th~~ p~~st history
ot' Anaheim they are wrong and you have declded you have a better use for the prc~perky
than what it is zoned for is ~ot the way to get anywhere.
Commissioner Johnson offered a motion seconded by Cornmissioner David and motion carried
that the Anaheim City Planning Cormiission has re~iewed the proposal to per•mit a church in
the ML(Industrlal, Lim([ed) zone on an irregularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of
approximately 0.7 acre having a frontage of approxim,~tely 20 feet on the north side of
La Palma Avcnue, having a maxirnum depth of ~pprox(matcly 340 fect, bcing locat.ed approxi-
~n~~Ply S~4 fPP~ w~cf nf thn rs+ntArl inP nf I akovi~w Avwniin~ anri ~Inne hnre+hv ~~,~rnvP ~hA
Negative Declarr~tion from the requirement to prepare an environmental impact report on
Che basis that there would be no sigriificant individual or cumulative ~dverse environ-
menta) impact du~ to the approval of this Neqative Declaration since the Anaheim General
Plan desiynates the subject property for general industrial land usec comrnensurate with
the proposal; that no sensitive environmental imp~c[s are involved in the proposal; thal
the Initial Study submitted by the petitioncr indicat~s no significan*_ individual or
cumulative adverse environmental impacts; and that the Neyative DPClaration Substantiating
[he foregoing finclings is on file in the City of Anaheim Planniny Department.
ACTION: Corn~nissioner Johnson offered a resalution for approv~~l of the petition for
co- d ional use permit No. 1944 to allow the temporary use for a church facility for
a period of two (2) years on the basis that the Hill and C~~nyon Municipal Advlsory
Committee had reviewed the project and supported it; and on the basis that i[ is a
t~mporary use and the building exists (indicating if this were a reyuest for a new project
he could not support it, but that he could not conceive of a church slaying active from
this industrial property for a l~ng period of time and would accept as Cruth the use
would be for a two year period or less); that thesc ~3re members of our community and
are asking for this temprrary use; that they will nat be conflicting with the industrial
traffic of the area. (He sta[e~ he supports the protection of the industrial zone, but
felt this would be a temporary use.)
Mr. DeVaul stated the congregation understands [he tax problem in the area and has agreed
that they would be willing tu waive the non-taxable status of the ~~roperty and pay taxes
on this property and indicated it is nc.t their intent to rob the City of the taxes.
Jack White, Deputy City Attorney, explained the City is not in a position [o a~cept a
waiver of the tax exempt status. He felt it is most unfortunate that this has appeared
in a motion made by HACMAC because it has nothing to do with the land u,e and w~uld not
be a legal conditicn that we could place upon the approval of this application. He ex-
plain~ed the tar, status is between the church, the state and the federal government and
the City cannot accept the waiver of tax exemption as a sort of extortion fc.~r allowing
the use.
Comnissioner Tolai stated talking against a request such as this is like talking against
"metherhood and apple pie" but in lookinc~ at the request strictly irom the zoning aspect
and the comment made by the petitioner that one of the reasons this site was chosen was
because it was cheaper and they will be ablz to save money to build their own chiirch, it
has been the experie~ice of the Planning Commissicn that there are a lot of people who
would like to I~cat~ in an industrial park because it is cheaper than a commercial area.
2/12/79
MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, ~ebruary 17., 19~J9 79'I12
EIR NEGATIVE OECIARATION, CONpIT10NAl USE PEkMIT N0. lyA4 (continued,
Hc felt one of the reasons therc have been maJor violations ~nd the rpa5on for the
present effort to clean up the industrial area is that penple have elected tn byp~ss
the Commisslon and develop conmerclal uses in the industrial zone because they th(nk it
would be better the way khey planned it than ihe way the City planned it because they
need tenants in thelr propcrties~ even if they ar~ p~ying less rent.
Conmissloner Tolar stated he cauld not understand how the Conmission could co~sider
taking the exact opposite posikion than they have been taking concerning othPr uses
in thc indus[rial area and brPaking down the inteqrity af che inclustrial zone even for
:, ch~rt {~~rind of time. He stated the Planning Comrnission is constantly hammered by
pecitioners wanting to go into the industrial area using the wcrd "precedent" and fell
the Cammisslon must live wilh lhe standards or change them. He stated if churches are
allowed in the industrial zone, a specific area shculd be set aside rath~.r than the
middle of an industrial park. He staced he appreciated these ~etition~:rs honesty, but
pointed out these are the reasons we havc different zones ~~nd he could not envision that
a church would be compatible with the industrial arr.a.
Cormiissioner Tolar indicated concern that the present use is lo~ated at thr. Vista del Rio
Jr. High School and was oper,~ting without a c:qnditional us~ permit and it was point.ed oiit
that the school was leased ~o the petitioners by the Orange Schooi District.
Commissioner BarnFS ind~cated she fe1t. very stonc;ly bath way~~ but telc somPtimes other
Chings than pure ::oninc~ ha~ie to be looked at and in addition, this is not a zoninq chanye.
She. stated the Commission would not le+ anybody else go in for a short period of time to
try and save money, but there is definitely a need for a church in that area, especially
for the yautti and she would be r~-ore inclined to support it, but has mixed emotions ~ince
this is a business venture and there are mar!y people who are asking for the same privileges.
She stated tne only reason she miyht s~~pport Lhi~, reyuest is because she feels it is
probably one of the most compatible uses thar. coufd go into the industrial area. She
explained she has voted against any uses other than industrial intt~e industrial zoncs.
She pointed out she passes this property daily and is a little concerned about the traffic
onto th.: street because of the driveway, but other than tliat felt this use is the most
favorable she has seen on a temporary basi~.
Cornmissioner 'Tolar remin~ed the Commission tha[ a request for a furniture store was
recently denied predlc~ted on the traffic with maybe 50 people in there at any one time,
3nd now this request is for 200 people being there :~n a Sunday at one time.
Commissioner Barnes felt the use would be compatib~e because the traffic will be there on
Sundays explaining she has gone past this site many times on Sunday and there was no one
there.
Chairman Herbst stated the Commission is underguing a study involving the Chamber ~f
Commerce, the Redevelopment Commission and others at the current time concerning what uses
couid be allowed in the industrial zones and a meeting is sc!~eduled ~~ arrive ar some
conclusiun about what typE of conditional use permits will be allowea in the industrial
zone because of the incompatability of some of the uses that have gune in without permits
in these zones. He felt the Commission is r~ot in a position at this time ta grant a
permit until the study has been completed and some corclusia~~s nave been reach2d.
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, February 12, 1973 79'~~~
EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATIONy CONDITIONAL US~ PERMIT N0, 1944 (continued)
Commissloner David stoted he was glad for Planninc~ Commisslo~s -vherr we can review each
ca,e individually and evaluAte wh~ther or not thP use is comnatible w(th the ~ite prc,posed
rather than just drawiny a line and bulldirig cverything llke ar~ erector set. He did not
feel this is the praper place for .~ church; thercfarc, the use would be for only two
years as indiceted and felt the request i~ reasonable and compatible and indicated he
would support the request for approval.
Commi~tiioner Johnson point- ~ut the requ~st is tor a t~mp~rary permit and explained he
normally would not suppor ..h a request.
Chairm:~n Hcrb:,t :,totcd thai :~ciny ba~l. f~~ I~istui y I~r: iew~ii~i~c5 tl~dt NC~u~il ~i(lr.~ N~rmit
comes back to the Commission with requests for renewal.
Commissf~~nrr Barnes st~t~~1 ShP w~uld n~~t be (n favor oS' ~n extensi~n aftcr the two year
period and indicated ~he felt this is a very temporary tl~inq, otherwise, she would not
su~port the request.
Commissioner Bushore stated he bclieved the petitloners, ~ul olso believed with the
situatic,r~ In the ~ai~von and the situation with the church purchasing subject property
that it will be much longer than two years and f~r that rca5on he could nat support
the motion for approval and also because of the people wha will be coming in after this.
Th~ foregoing resolution FAILED TO CARRY by the follawing vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, OAVIU b JOHNSON
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: eUSHORE, KING, HERBST, TOLAR
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONF
ACTION: Commissioner Bushore offered Res~lution No. PC79-30 and rr~ved for ~ts passage
and adoption that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby deny petit(on for
Condit(onal Use Permit No. 1944 on the basis that the use would not be compatible
with the surrounding industria) zc~ne.
On roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the following v~te:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BUSHORE, KING, HERBST, TOLAR
NOES: COhiMISS10NERS: 9ARNE5, pAVID b JOHNSON
ABSENI': COMMIS~IONERS: NONE
Jack White, Deputy City Attorney, presented the petitioner with the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's dscision within 22 days to the City Council,
ITEM NQ. 7 PUELI~ NEARING. OWNER: JAMES A. MC MAHAN 2121
EIR- CATEGORICAL EXEMPTIOM-CLASS II Wilshire Boulevard, Santa Monica, CA 90~406.
VARIANCE N0. 307. AGENT: GILBERT A. THOMAS~ P. 0. BoK 1428,
Tustin, CA 92680. Petitioner requests WAiVER
OF MAXIMUM SIGN HEiGH7 TO ERECT A ROOF-MOUNTED SIGN on pr~perty described as a reGtangularly-
shaped parctl ~f land ~on~isting of approximately 0.9 acre having approximate frontages of
135 feet on the west side of Euclid Street anci I' Feet on the west side of cul-de-sac
terminus of Catalpa Avenue~ having a maximum d~pth of approximately 304 feet, being located
approximately 1055 feet south of the centerllne of La Palma Avenue~ and further described
as 845 North Euclid 5treet. Prpp~rty presently classified CL(COMMERCIAL, LIMITED) zone.
There was no one ind~cating their presence in opposition to subJect request, and although
the staff report to khe Planning Commission dated Februa~y 12, 1~79, was not read at the pub-
lic hearing~ it is r~ferred to and made a part of the minutes.
2/12/79
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, February 12, 1979 79-114
£IP CATEGORICA~ EXEMPTION R VARIANCE N0. 3074 (continued)
Gilbert A, Thomas, agent, stated McMahan Furn{ture has been loceted In An~helm for 20
yenrs and at the present addross for fivc years; that [he structure is a modern two-
story 28,000 sq. ft. bullding; that the roof of the bulld(ng is 22-feet high and they
have a 2S-fo~t lilgh tree-standing slgn located on the pr~mises, Ne presented photogrAphs
of the cxisting sign. He Nxplained they are requesting permission to install a raof siqn
40-fPet high tor better vi~lbility up and dawn the street. He stated the staff repart
indtcatPd staff could find no records of permits for signs ab~ve 25 feet, but he wanted
Co point out there are signs in the area higher than 25 fect, the Cal Federal bullding
to the north with a slgn wcll nver 100 fect and the Lee's Bar Stool sign and other signs
on the lef't side ot che street are ~aller than tlie applicant's sign; t~ thc south Alphe
beta mArket, siyn, Cl~i~~.~.i~ ~ie sign uhich ~re OYf'r ~S FPP~ high. He sta~ed the Lee's Bar
Stool sign particularly blocks che McMahan's sign. He explained the proposed sign would
be in the same good taste .35 seen in the building and they fe~l it woulcl ~untrfbute to
the business climate of the cnmim mity.
The ~ui.!ic hearing w~s closed.
Commissioner Tolar asked if th~re are other siyns in ~the area which are taller than 25 feet.
Jay ~'ashiro, Associate Planner, stated it is possible there are taller signs and Indicated
staff had revfewed [he record for any psrmits which would have permitted higher signs
and there were no records of any permits e~ranted, but th.-,t they could have been existing
non-conforming uses which were conscructed prior to the Si~fl ordin~~nce being adopted.
Commissioner King stated in checking this in the field he had s,een ,nly one free-standing
sign higher than th~ 25 feet and that was the Century 21 sign and i[ is located more than
300 feet from any residential area and felt the other signs mentioned would be more than
300 feet away from any residential ~~rea and the pr~posed sign is closer than 300 feet.
Gommissioner David asked the height of the present sign and Mr. Thomas replied the existirig
sign is 25-feet high and the roof is 22-feet high so part of che siqn is obstructed by
the building itself.
Comroissioner Kiny stated most of the siyns within 300 feex of residential areas in this
area are consistent and in line wi[h the McMahan sign, except Century 21.
Commissioner Johnson indicated he did not think the Lee's Bar Stao) sign is higher than
25 feet.
Mr. Thomas explained he had only gotten this staff report today when fie Game to the
meeting; otherwise, he would have gone out and mc:asured the other si~ns. He stated
if it is important to the determination he could request a continuance and furnish that
informatian.
Commissioner Barnes explained the Keystone sign which gives the temperature and time was
granted because the peaple from the neiyhborho~d had indicated they wanted it bECause
of the information it would furnish, but she did not see any reason to grant any more sign
variances because the Commission is trying to make all the signs in the city confurm
and as people come in and request new signs or want tu rsdo their existing signs, they
are asked to conform to Code. She stated it is the Comnission's hope to eventually get
rid of the garish big signs. She stated this is one of the nicest buildings around
and she did not see why they would want to ruin it with 2 large sign and felt anyon~
lookin9 for the store could find it.
Commissioner Johnson indicated he agreed and felt this building and exi.,ting sign are
in very good taste,
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING CQMMISSION~ february 12, 197g 19-~15
EIa CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION 6 VARIANCE NO 3q74 (continued)
Commissioner Kinq state~l th~ signs in the area are consistent and look r;ce,
Mr. Thomas stated looking from L~e's Bar Sto~l's sign, thelr sign Ia completely blocked.
Commissioner Bushore stated hi, business is locAted at l.a Palma and Euclid and he can
see this sign perfectly ancl from the opposite corner can 5ee it perfectly by Just
turniny his head a I(ttle bit.
Mr. Thomas stated without having th~e opportunity to check the or.her signs, he eould
only accept the Cornmiss(oners' superior knowledgc, but in driving down the street
hc was surc thc othcr ~Igns mcntioncd wcre highcr than 25 fcat, but that it is passible
those arc located rrx~re than 300 feet frorn residentlai properttes.
Chairman Herbst related that if ~his sign is permitced, then when the other people are
ready to redo their exist(ng siyns, they r~r(11 want 40-foot high signs.
It was noted the Planning Dir~ctor or fiis authorized representa[iv~ has determined
that the proposed proJect falls within the definition of CaYegorical Exemptions, Claas 11~
as defined in Paragraph 2 of the City of Anaheim Environmencal Impact Report Guidelines
and fs, therefore, categorically exrmpt from the requlrement to prepare an EIR,
ACTION: Commissioner Johnson offered Resoiition No. PC 79-31 ~nd rr~ved for its passage
and adoption that the Anaheim f,ity Planning Commission does here5y deny Petition for
Variance No. 3074 on the basis that there are no 5pecial circumstancPS appiicable ~
the property~ includiny size, shape~ topography, location or surroundings, which d.. not
apply to other property under identical zoning classification In the vic(nity, and
strfct applicatian of the zoning code dnes not deprive subjece property of privileges
enjoyed by other property in the vicinity.
On roll call the foregoing resolutian was passed by the foilowing vote:
AYES: COP1MiS510NER5: 9ARNES, BUSNORE, DAVID, HERBST, JOHNSON, KING b TOLAR
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
Jack White~ Deputy City Attorney~ presented the petitioner with the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's decision within 22 days to the Ci[y Council.
ITEM N0. 8 PUBLIC HEAR~'G. OWN~RS: ROBERT D. ETCHANDY, ETAL~
EiR CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION-CLASS 5 2$00 South Main 5treet, Santa Ana. CA 92707. AGENT:
VARIANCE N0. 307~ ELDEN BAINBRIDGE, 2800 South Main Street~ Santa
Ana~ CA 92707. Petitioner requests WAIVER OF RE~UIRE-
MENT THAT ALL LOTS ABUT A PUBLIC STREET TO FSTABLISH A TNREE-LOT INDUSTRIAL SUBD{V{SION
on property described as an irregularly-sh~ped parcel of land consisting of approximately
5•3 acre having a frontaUP uf approximately 800 feet on the east side of Tuskin Avenue, having
~ maximum depth of approximat~ly 360 feel, being located approximately ~65 feet south
of the centerline of I.aPalma Rvenue. Property presently classified RS-A-43,000
(RESIDENTIAL/AGRICULTURAL) ZONE.
There was no one indicating tfieir presence in opposition to the subject request and
although the staff ~eport to the Planning Commission dated February 12, 1979~ was not
read at the public hear(ng~it is referred to and made a part of the minutes.
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19-116
EIR C_ATEgORICAI EXEMPTION-CLASS 6 VARIANCE NU. 3076 (continued)
Elden Balnbridge, agent . was present to answer eny questions.
THE PUBL IC HEAR I NG WAS CLOSEO.
C~mmissioner Barnes esked the petirloner If he owned the property, ~nd if all three
industria) bul ldings wi 11 have strer,[ frontage, and where the fronts are for 9uildings
I and 2.
Mr. 8ainbrldge answored he has aleaeehold interest in the property; that the buildings
wi 11 liava fiu~-tdy~, t,ul nu ~ccey~; ~nd that 6ui iding f fronts on lustin Nvenue and
Bu) iding 2 fronts rc,w~rci the water reservoi r and the but ldings back up to each othe~
wi th an a) ley between.
Coimnissloner Barnes indicated her concern with the alley and parking and stated she did not
kncnv what type of Industr(al u~er could use buildlnqs like these because normally they
require areas in the rear in order to get the~ir ma[erials in and out and requirE some-
thing larger than a 26-foot driveway between bulldings. She felc the design of the
build(ngs leans toward eommercial users.
Mr. Bainbridge indicated they wauld be looking for light industrial users and it wil l be
a clean operation with no oulside stora,ye, etc.
f,ommissianer Tolar stated it is up Co the petitioner to design the buildin~s for th~
lndustrial users.
Cheirmar, Herbst indfcated he did not want to set a precedent by granting a three-lot
subdivision for long narr~w buildings which by their design will not service the
Industrlal user and would set up a commercial activity at this locati~n. He felt the
design with glass fronts would encouragc commercial users rather than industrial users.
Commissianer Talar pointEd out the petitiuner is reyuesting an industrial use and
fhairman Nerbst replied the petitioner is requestiny a three-lot subdivision and he felt
:~~ property wou~d have been divided differentl if
uses. Y properly design4d for industrfal
Commissioner David aSked if the purpose of the subdivision to to allow the parcels to be
sold.
Mr. Bainbridge explained they are subdivided so they can be taxed individually or
they could be soid; that these are multi-tenant buildings ar~d are designed for smal l
users (1,500 to 1,800 sq. ft.),
Commissioner Johnson stated his concern regardtng access to Parcel 3~ and indicated
he would have trouble supporting the request. He did not feel the Commission would be
Justifled in rienying the project on the basis of the design leaning toward commercial
uses.
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MINUTES, ANANEIM CITY PLANNIN6 COMMISSION, February 12, 1y79 79-117
EIa CATEGORICAL EXEMpTION -CLASS $, 6 VARIANCE N0. 3076 (continued)
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Chairman Herbs~ referred to a previous heariny on this particular property fc,r a furniture
store and the ~rtterie pre sented to rllm(n,~te industrial properties bei~g used comrnerclally
such as the glass froncs. etc.
Mr. Bainbridge clarified there is a permanent casement abouG 25 feet. from the east propcrty
line with the water dist ~ict t~ parcel 3.
Chairman Nerbst nn(nted out they would be drivfny through a parking lot to get to the
property.
Commissioner Bushare thouyl~t l~~at ease-ne~ • had recently been abandoned ancl Mr. gainbridge
explained the fee s(mple street was abandoned and in exchange they had gfven them
an easement across the portion of the property tliey owneci as a trade-off' situation.
Commissioner Barnes (ndic ated her understanding that the Conx~iission is just talking about
the lot split and not app roving the plans as submitted; that if the plans meet the ML
zoning requirem~nts, they do not have t~ be approved by the Comnission.
Jay Tashiro~ Associ~te Planner~ stated that ~s correct; that if [he planssubmitt.E:d meet
the zoning requfrements, they are simply 5ubmitted t.o the Building Division for Plan Check.
Jack White, Deputy City A ttorn~y, explained the only issue before the Commission today is
whether or not a variance should be granted to allow a lot that doesn't abut a public
str~et as required by th e code.
Cvmmissioner Tolar state d we have granted several of these type lots in the industrial
area with the recent con dominium type industrial complexes with permanent ingress and
egress through dedication .
It was noted the Planning Director or his authorized representative has determined that
the Qroposecl project falls within the defini[ion of Categorical Exemptions, Class 5,
as defined in Paragraph 2 of the City of Anaheim Environmental Impact Report Guidelines
and is, therefore, categQ ricaliy exempt from the requirement to prepare an EIR.
ACTION: Comm~,si~ner Tolar offered a resolution granting Variance No. 3076 on the basis
that denial would be dep riving subject property of a privilege being enjoyed by other
~perties under identica 1 zoning classificacion in the vicinity and subject to Inter-
departmental Committee Re commendatians.
Commissioner Johnson sta t ed he would appase the resoluti~n because the petitioner is not
asking for a use, but is asking for two lots without s[reet frontage and the fact there
is an underlying abvious n ess about it is not a part of the record and the variance is
not to allow the use.
Commissioner Tolar stated the variance is to allow the use because most of the condominium
type industrial parks ha ve been developed exactly like this and are separate lots and
can be sold individually and everyone of them has a private ingress and egress and are not
on public streets and ma n y are on dedicateci easements exactly like this one.
Chairman Nerbst stated he would oppose the resolution because the project is not designed
for industrial uses.
On roll call the foregoin g resolution FAIIED TO CARRY by the foliowfng vote:
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ Fcbruary 1?., 1919 79-11Q
EIR CATEGURICAL EXEMPTION-CLtiSS S, 6 VARIANCE N0, 3076 (cant(nued)
AYES: COMMISSION~R5: BARN~S, DAVIO b TOLAR
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: DUSHORE~ HERDST, KING b JONNSON
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ACTION: Cnmmissioner Bushore offered Resolutior No. PC79-32 an~ moved for its passage
and adoptlan that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby deny petition
for Variance No. 3076 on the basis there are no special circumstances applicable to the
property, including size, shape, topography, locatian or surraundings which do n~t apply
to other pro~erty under ident(~al xoninq classific.~tion in the vic.inity and stricr.
appllcati~n of t.he zoning cc~de does not depr(ve the propcrty of privlleges enJoyed by
ather proprrty under identical zoning cl~ssifi~eliv+~ in the vici~i~y.
On roll call the fnregoing resolution was p~ssed by the following vote:
AYES: C4MMISSIONERS: BUSHORE, N~RBS1, KING b JOHNSON
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, DAVID b TOI,AR
ABSENI': COMMISSIONERS: NONE
Jack Whitc, Deputy City Attorney. presented the petitioner the written right to appeal
the Planning Commission's decision within 22 day~ t:o the City Council.
RECESS: There was a 10-minute rec~ss a 3:25 P•m•
RECONVENE: The meeting was reconvened ~t 3~35 p.m•~ all Commissioners present.
ITEM N0. 9 PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: RAYpELI RICHARD AND LAWANDA
EIR NEGATIVE UECLARATION HAZEL BOBST, 9282 7histle Raaci, Anaheim, CA 92aU4.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 1940 Fetitianer requests pern,ission to ESTAaLISH OUTOOOR
STORAGE OF MASONRY MATERIALS AND EQUIPMEN7 on property
described as a rectangularly-shaped p~rcel of la~d consisting of apprAximately 0.5 acre
having a frontaqe of appraximately 95 ~eet on the west side nf Dale Avenue, having a
maximum depth of approximately 242 feet, being located approxin~tely 355 feet south of
the centerlin~ of Lincoln Avenue, and further described as 131 South Dale Avenue. Property
presently classified RS-A-43,OQ0(RESIOENTIAL/AGRICULTURAL) zone.
There were th~ee persons indicatiny their presence in opposition to the subject request
and although the staff report to the Planning Commission dated February 12, 1979, was
not read at the public hearing, it is referred to and make a part of the minutes.
Richard Bobst, petitioner, stated this request is to permit h~im to keep masonry material
and equipment at 131 S. Dale Avenue; that he has had the material and equipment stored
there for 24 years witl~ no complaints until about four months ago.
Dwight Auchard,i35 % Dale Street, presented a letter indicating his oppositian to subject
request.
Jack White, Deputy City Attorney, read the letter and subJect letter is on file in the
Planning Department files. Points o` op~~sition as noted in the l~tter were: considerable
nnise~ truck delivery, traffic past his bedroom window, narrow driveway between properties;
destruction of rose hedge planted to prevent trucks from hitting his ho~se; 3-foot overhang
on roof makes it too difficult for high loads to pas~ through; damage to 4-foot high solid
wood fence; tall weeds and grass (fire hazard); space rented to someone other than petitioner;
metal stared on property and then beat on with heavy hammers; sc~ap metal storage vacated
the property, but the same type use or worse could return; lot used to store dump trucks, I
heavy trailers and bulldozers and employees vehicles; noise from engines warmi~g up in the
early morning; and also dust; masonry material bulldozed to the outside and c~vered with
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EIR N~GATIVE DECLARATION b CQNDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. ig4a (contlnucd)
7 fe:et af rubbish and dirt; fence raised to 6-feet. and dirt has been piled against the
fence; n~ost of the dirt was removed but fence was badly smashed (n; and decr~ase in
property value.
Clark B(ggers, 2828 W. Lincoln~ AnahQ(m, stated he owns the apartment complex on the
western property line and the bullding is three storles high which mcans 2/3 uf his
residents with patios and view windows are looking down into what is supposed to bc a
residenttal yard~ but their view is really of a junk yard; that salvage construction
~quipment, etc., is stored all over and also his ~esidenks have a diFficult time sleeping
late because oF the notse with the eyuipment loaciing .,~~~i unloading, He stated hc would
iike to requ~sl ~a~~idl uf thc rcque~t beca!~sp thtc uae downqrades the neighborhood,
Mr.Bobst stated the portion of the yard referred to with the abandon~d t.rucks does not
belong to him; that he own~ Ghc portion south from the abanduned trucks; that he had
rented a portion of the property to a swimming pool company and they had two trucks
and tractors, but has since had them vacate the pruperty; that he h~s been trying to get
the property cleaned up and had had a truck and trailer scheduled t.~~ come in and haul
~verything away, except for an ~~rea approximatEly 20' x 30', but the rain had delayed
thaC project; tha[ Mr. Auchard's bedroom is 10 to 12 feet away from [he fence; that the
pool c~mpany had pushed some dirt against the fence, but he had asked them t~ move it
and he had noticed the fence was pushed in a little bit in one spot.
THE PUBLIC HEARING wA5 CLOSED.
Commissioner Barnes asked Mr. Bc~stit F had lived at this pr~~pertv at one time and he
replied that he had built the house 30 years ago and had lived tf~ere for about 12 years
and when he built a house in Fullerton, he kept subject property and rented Che house
and stored his equipment on the r~ar of the property. He explained he had rented a portion
to the pool company for about five months, but had never rented any portion of it bef~re.
He also explained the prcperty tu the north does not belong to him; that it has an easement
on his property to get to tt~e back where the trucks are stored, bue he did not know wha
owns the equtprr~ent. He stated he wants a perm~[ to park maybe one truck~ maybe a couple
mixers and a smal) amount of masonry materials, but that the rest of the materials
will be removed from the prope~ty.
Commissioncr Totar stated he had gone to the property and viewed it from behind the gas
station and the~ property to the north and ~,sked if he would have been able to see subject
pr~perty fram tl~is loc~~tion.
Mr. Bobst clarifiect that his pr~perty is ~rum the ~ld qarage south to the
burned out dump truck.
Commissic~ner Tc~lar stated hr wouid have to agree with the opposition and did not sae any
reasori to support this type sLorage. He referred to a previous hearing recently on
Ball Raad similar• ~o this requ~st in the sense that 24 years ago this type of use was no
"big deal" in An~heim, but felt the area has outgrown the storage of any type of equipment
and the buiid up araund the properCy supports the arguments presented in opposition and show
that the use is not compatible anymore. He stated he supports a person having the right
to use his pronerty the way he wants to as long as it dcesn't violate the health, safety
and welfare of oth~r ppople. He felt the use has become a nuisance to the neighborhood.
He stated he will ask the Zoning Enforcement Officer to check into the property to the
north because both of these properti~s are really bad.
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MINUTES, ANAIiEIM CITY PLANNING COMMIS5IQN~ Februery 12, 1y79 79-120
NEGATIVE DECLARATION f. CONDITiONAL USE PERMIT N0, 1940 (continued)
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Mr. Bobst stated he~ wanted permisslon to use part of the arca behind the renta) houtie
to keep a small amount of equipment.
Co~~Hntssloner Tolar stated the petitioner has been fortunate in his business and hes been
able to afford to have a nice home (n a pr(vate res~'- ial area where he does nut have
to look at this type of thing~ but unfortunately other~, st(I1 live there fn a life style
they can bfford and felt this use is infringing on lheir rights, He felt the petitioner
ne~ds tu find another place to store hts equlpment. In additian, he felt storage of
equipment on thts property along with the residential house which Is rented Is a dual use
on the property and has not been allowed by the Planning Commissi~n.
Cormiissioner Bushore asked if the dump lrucks are gett(ng onto the adjacent property
through [he easement and Mr. Bobst replied he had owned the property next door to the
narth ~nd sold it and the owner h~d a truck and wanted an easement to the back and
he had given him an easement on the suuth side of his pruperty.
ConmiSSioner Talar clarified that khe petitiuner had sold the adjacent property to the
north and had given an easement to the rear of that property and asked what the frontege
of that property is. Mr. Bobst replied the property is 55} feet wide by 242 feet and
that there is no fence dividing the properties in the rear.
CommissionerBushore explained his question had been how Che cr•ucks were getting onto
the property to the north, but that Mr. Bobst had answered that by indicating there
is an easement. CommissionerBushore indicated he cauld find no reason to support this use.
Cammissioner David asked how long the petitioner needed to clean the F~roperty up and
Mr. Bobst replied he did not know.
Commissioner Tnlar stated as long as the ea~emenc is [here this problem will continue.
Commissioner Bar•nes stated [he problem is not with the easement, but what the easement
is used for and felt when th~ Zoning Enforcement Officer tell, the use~ he can't use
it for that purpose, the problem wi11 be solved.
Commissioner David p~inted out to Mr. Bobst that he did not think the permission would
be granted to continue this use and asked how much time is needed to clear the property, so
that it could be included as part of the motion.
Jack White~ Deputy City Attorney~ explained normally 30 days are allowed.
Mr. Bobst explained he would have to rent spa~e for storage and explained the only reason
he had kept thts property in the first place was to store his equipment and eventually
he would build apartments because he does not get enough rent from the residence ta make
it worthwhile. He asked that he be granted until April l, 1979, to clear the property.
Commissioner David offered a motion for appraval of the EIR Negative Declaration.
Corr~nissioners King and Barnes indicated they could not support approval of the negative
declaration since they felt tl~e use does have an adverse impact on the surrounding area.
Chairman Herbst agreed.
Commissioner David withdrew his motion for approval of the negative declaration.
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EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION b CONDITIONA~ USE PERMIT_N0. 1940 (continued)
ACTION: Commissfoner David offered a r-btion, seconded by Commissioner King and MOTION
CARRIED that the Anahetm City Planning Commission has reviewed the proposal tu permit the
~.~utdoor storage of masonry m~terials and equipment on ~7 rectangularly-shaped parcel of
land consistir~g of approximately 0.5 acre, having a frontage of approximately 95 feet
on the west s(de of Dale Avenue, liaving a maximum depth af approximately 242 feet, being
located approximately 355 feet south of the centerline of Lincoln Avenue; and does f~ereby
dlsapprove the Nr.gative Declaration from therequirement to prepare an env(ronmental
impact report on the basis that there would be significant individuai or cumulative
adverse environmental impacts due to the approval of this Negative Declaration.
Commissianer David offered Resolution No. PC79-33 and m~~ved for its ~assac~e and adoption
thal liie A~wfir.im City f'lanning Commisslon does hPrPhy d~ny the petition for Conditional
Use Per ~t Nc~, 1940 on the basis f.hat the existing illegal use has had a detrimental
impac~ on the surrounding ~eighbarl~~od and the use is not compatible with the
res(dential nature of the surrounding neighborhood; an~! further, that the property shall
be vacated by Api•(1 l, 1979, as stipulated by the petitioner,
On roll call the fcregoing resolutfon was passed by the fo'lowing vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS; BARNES~ BUSNORE, DAVIO, HERBST, KING, JOHNSON b TOLAR
NOES: COMMIS510N6RS: NONE
ABSENT: CAMMISSIONERS: NONE
Jack Whlte, Deputy City Attorney, presented the petfti~ner wit.h the written right to
appeal the Planning Gommission's decision within 22 days to thP City Council.
ITEM N0, 10 PUBLIC HEARING. OWNER: LAZARE F. BERNHARD, 1800
EiR NEGATIVE DECI.ARATION Avenue of the Stars, Los A~geles, CA 90067. AGENT:
WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENTS JOSEPH H. DOYLE, 1432 West Beverly Drive~ Anaheim,
CONDITIONAI USE PERMIT NU. 1941 CA 92801. Petitioner requests permission to ESTABLISH
A ROOFING CONTRACTOR'S STORAGE YARD WITH WAIVER OF
(A) MAXIMUM FENCE HEIGHT AND (B) PERMITTED ENCROACHMENT INTO REQUIRED ~~TBACK on property
described as a rectangularly-shaped parcel ~f land consisting of appraximatety 0.5 acre
located at the northeast corner of Broadway and Loara Street, liaviny appr•oximate frontages
of 137 feet on the north side of Broadway and 15~ feet on the east side of Loar~ Street,
and further described as 1595 West Broadway. Property presently classified ML(INDUSTRIAL,
LIMITED) ZONE.
There was no one indicating tF~eir presence in opposition to subject request and although
the staff report to the Planning Commission dated February 12, 1979~ was not read at
the public hearing, it is referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Joseph Doyle, agent, referred to che staff report which indicates subject pruper ~ was
originally developed as a storage yard for new automobiles and recreationel vehicles,
but pointed out the ~roperty wasoriginally develaped for the storage of lumber and the
presenC wall and ingress and egress were requirements of Che City of Anaheim, referring
to the recommendation of the Gity Traffic Engineer that the existing driveway on
Loara Street be relocated to the north property line. He indicated relocatingthis driveway
would be a hardship. He stated the request is for storage for a roofer,who has indicated
he will have Four vehicles and will be storing r•oofing materials.
THE PUB~.IC HEAR;NG WAS CLOSED.
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, February 12~ 1979 79-122
EIR NEGATIVE DECLAaATION, WAIVER OF COQE REQUIREMENTS b CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
N0. 1941 (cont i nued) _~~ ._
Commissioner Tolar Stated he recalled that this property was nUt paved: however, the
staff report indtcates the property 15 paved.
Mr. Doyle stated the property is not blacktapped and to put In blacktop would cost
$8,000 and the tenants would not pay it. He explatned [he property is cavered w(th six
inch~s af "pea gravel'' paving.
Commissloner King referred to Item 8 of the staff report which indicaces the propPrty is
paved and surrounded by a 6-foot high masonry wall and pointed out the property (s not
paved and the wall is eight feet on lwo sides and sIx feet un the north side. Hc~ stated
he would nul Nut 11~C ir,csc gr~vcl in the rArPr~nry ~f pavinn.
Jay Tashiro, Associate Planner, pointed out the plans submitted indical~J ll~e prppcrty
Naved and thc 6-foot wall an~i Ch~irman Herbst pointed out to Mr. Doyle that those items
were shown on the exhibit.
Commissioner King explained when this property was previously hefore the Comnission, h~
had offered a motion f~r approva) and the motion was denied on the basis of the creation
~f dusl and noise, which he did not agree with, poinling out the dust and noise would have
to go up and over an 8-faot wall, then across the street against [he prevailing wind and
up and over another 8-foot high wall to reach the homes.
It was noted that request had bsen for a storage yard for impound tars. Jay Tashiro
explained the Planning Commission had approved the request and the City Council had
denied it.
Mr. Doyle explained the Flanning Cummissia.~ had approved the reques[ for a one year
period providing the area was paved, so that one year's rent would have gone into the
paving. He explalned that the neighbors had objected to the use at the City Council
meeting bec:ause of the d~~st and indicated he had checked and the environmental psople
had indicated to him that tl~ere would be no dust.
Chairman Herbst askPd how high the roofing compar+y i~tends to store their materials
and Mr. Doyle replied that all the material will be b~neath th~ height of the fence.
Commissioner Tolar asked if the landscaping would be rejuvenated and Mr. Doyle replied
that since the last hearing, someone has removed all the dead trees. He stated he would
make sure the landscaping gets don~. He stated they will put in a shallow i~rigation system,
Commissioner Bushore asked the hours of operation and Mr. Doyle replied they will be
8 a.m, to 5 p.m•~ Monday through Fr•iday, and probabiy on Saturday.
Mr. Ooyle statad the landscaping is not a big problem, but the paving and relocation
of the driveway are big projects.
Chairman Herbst asked if the slatting in the gate would be redonP ,nd Mr. Doyle replied
that it would.
The stipulations of the petitioner were clarified as: a) redo the slatting in the gate~ b)
hours of operation - Sa.m, to 5 p•m., Manday through Saturday. c) proper landscaping and
irrigation along Loara and Broadway Streets, d) no storage of materials above the height
of the walis.
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2/12/79
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MINUTES, ANIiIiEIM CITY PLANNING COMMI5SION~ Fcbruary I?., 1979 79-123
EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION, ~JAIV~R OF CODE REQUIREMENT b CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
N0. 1~41 ~c~ntlnued
ACTION: Commissioner David offered a motlon, secnncfed by Commissioner King and MOTION
CARRICD that the Anahelm City Planning Commission has reviewed the propos~il to ~ermit
a roofing contractor's stor~ge yard with waivers of max)mum fence height, and permitted
encr~ ~hment Into required setback on a rectangularly-shaped parcel of land consisting
of approximately 0.5 acre located ~k the northeast corrier of Broadway and Loara Street~
having approx(mate frontage~ of 137 feet on the nc~rth side df Broadway~ and 150
feet on the east side of Loara Str•eet; and does hcreby approve the Negative Declaration
from the requirement to prepare an enviranrr~ntal impact report ~n the basis that t.here
would be no s(gnificant individual or cumulative adver•se e~vironmental impact due to the
approval of this Negative Decl~ratian since the Anaheim G~neral Plan designates t.he subJect
Nr~perty f~r yen~ral indus[rial larid uses conri~;n5urate ~Ni lii lhe Nr~pusal ; Lhal nu SenSi-
tive environmental impacts are invnlved in thP pro~~cal; that the Initial S~udy Suhmi~ted
by the petilioner indicates no significant individual or cumulat.ive adverse environmental
impacts; and that [he Negative Decl~r~ation substantiatinq the foregoing findinq; i;, on
file in the City of Anafieim Planning Department.
Commissioner King stated he agreed with the p~titianer regardiny che r•elocation of the
driveway on Loara Street t~ the north propsrty line and Commissioner David indicated
he planned to eliminate that requirement.
Commissioner David offered a motion, seconded by Coinnissioner Tolar and MOTION CARRIED
(Commissioner Johnson voting no) that the An,,heim City Planning Cortmission does hereby
grant waiver (a) on the basis that an approximatc 8-foot high masonry wal) exists and
is necessary to screen the view of the materials ta be stored below the height of the
wall and thc praperty next door to Che east is d~velo~ed at the same distance, and on
the basis that there are special circumstances applicabl~ to the property whicFi do not
ap~ly to other properties under identical zoning classification in the vicinity;and
grant waiver (b) on the basis that denial would deprive subject property of privileges
enjoyed by other properties in the same zone and vicinity and the use of the property
is limited becau,e of traffic noise at 9roadway and Loara.
Conxnissioner Johnson explained his negative vote is to reyisterhis displeasure in having
these storage yards scattered about Anaheim and thought the property owner should do
something with this property other than a storage yard because outdoor storage is soon
to be a thing of tl~e past.
Chairman Flerbst explained the liistory of the property; that the property c~wner has
leased the property and when the lease expires, he plans to develap the property and
indicated he f.r,lt approval of the conditional use permit should be contingent upon the
length of the existing lease,
Commissioner David offered Resolution No. PC79-34 and moved for its passage and
adoption that the Anaheim City Planning Commissi~n does hereby grant petition for
C~nditional Use Permit Na. 194~ for the period of the existing l~ase, ta expire January
31, 1983, subject to the stipulations by the petitioner that no materials shall be stored
above the height of the existing 8-foor fence; that Che hours of operation shall be
from 8:00 a.m, to 5:00 p.m, - Monday through Saturday; that proper landsca~ing and
irrigation shail be provided and maintained along Broadway and loara Streets; that the
slatting ln the gate shall be replaced and subject to Interdepartmental Committee
Recommendations, with the excepcion of Condition No. 1 which shall be deleted.
Jay Tashiro asked whether or not it is the Commission', intent that the property be
paved, and Chairman Herbst replied that it is not their intent to require paving.
2/12/79
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLIINNING COMMISSION, F~bruiry 11, ~~79 79-124
EIR NEGATIVE DECLARAT~ON, WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT b CONDITIONl1L U5E PERMIT
N0. 1~41 (continued}
On rol) call, the foregoing resolut(on was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARNF_S, DAVID, HERBST, KiNG 6 TOLAR
NOES: COMMlSSIONERS: BUSIIORE b JOHNSON
ABSENT: COMMISStONERS: NONE
ITEM N0. 11 PUBLIC HEARING. OWNER: BEAM INVES7MENT COMPANY,
EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION 1370 Nortli Red Gum Strect, Anaheim, CA 92806.
WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT Petitioner rcquests permission to ESTABLISH A TRUCK
CQNOITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 1942 RENTAL AND l_EASING FACILITY WITH WAIVER OF REQUIREO
E~lCLOSURE 4F !?UTD44P, USES on propcrty dc:.cribed as a
rectanqul~~•ly-shaped parce.l of land consisting of approximately I.l acres located at the
southeast cornPr of La Jolla and Red Gum Streets and having approximate fr~ntages of
z98 feet on the south ci~iP ~f 1.~ ,1~11~ Str•~~t ~nd 15S fe~t ~n the east side of Red Gum
Sireet. Property presently ciassified ML (INpUSTRIAL, LIMITED) ZONE.
There was one person indicatiny their presence in opp~sition to subject request and
although the staff report to the Plann(ng Cummission dated February 12, 1979, was not
read at the public hearing, it is referred to and m~de a part of the minutes.
Bill Warden, Beam Investment Company, 1370 N. Red Gum Street, Anaheim, st,~ted they propose
to establish a truck leasing facility to lease trucks to the industrial area with a minimum
number o( trucks stored on the property; that they f~ave spaces for 25 trucks, but plan
to never have more than ~ or 10 trucks on the property at any ane time; that they have
reauested a waiver for the fence and explained tliere is an existing 6-foot chain-link
fence with redwood slats; that the largest truck they will have wil) be 13-feet high with
the majority being 6 to 8-feet high; that regarding the 7raffic Engineer's recommendation
that the two proposed driveways be deleted and replaced with one 30-foot driveway which
aligns with the driveway across La Jolla Street, that he had met with the Traffic Depart-
ment and worked out a solution to use the twa drivzways narrowed to 30 feet and designated
as "~ne way" in and "one way" out to avoid ~ny traffic problems. He presented a revised
plan shawfng the one way driveways. He also explained the trash enclosure has been
designed to n~eet City standards.
Mike Noggle, 17377 Aspengtow Circle, Yorba L.inda, President of Southern Plastic Mold,
2941 E. La Jolla. Anaheim, on the northwest corner opposite su5ject property stated they
have been at this location for approximately two years and there are a numper of new
industrial buildings in this area anc' little by little the area is being renovated,
but th~y have one continuai problem .nich ~s trucks parked up and down Red Gum 5treet
adjac~nt to their building. He explained this problem may not~be related to this request,
but they can t seem to get any relief from the problem of large double trailers and trucks
wh~ch pose a hazard as we11, He did not think subject property is l~rge enough to
establisfi a tr~ck leasing facility~ pointing out no company plans to stay small and
wondered where they would park large trucks when they do expand.
Mr. Warden stated the staff report clearly states the trucks witl be 20 to 22 foot "bob-
tail" trucks and the trucks referred to parked on Red Gum Street are the large tractor-
trailer type, He stated they are a leasing facility and the ma~ority of their trucks
will be out most of the time; that they do have 25 spaces~ but if they have 25 trucks
not leased, th~y will bc: close to goiny out of busin~ss.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY pLANNING COMMISSION, Fabruary 12, 1979 79'125
EI~ NEGATIVE DECLARATtON, wAlv~k oF C~DE RF.QUIRCMENT ~ CONDITIONnt. lisF PERMtt
N0. Ig42 (continued)
Comn~lssfoner Tolar stated he thouyht this particular use of truck star~ge is conducive
to thls area and he would rather see this use in an industrial area than a commercial area.
Ht stated he waa concerned about the size of the trucks, but the pctitloner had answPred
those .ryuestions; that if this request is a~.proved, a maximum number of trucks to be stored
on the pro~erty will be specified and ti~~ ~etitianer will not be able ta expend this
facility. He asked what type of work will be done on the trucks at this facility.
John Earnhart, Avis Truck Rental~ sL~ted hasically this will be a truck maintenanc~ facility
and their func[ion is the long term lea~iny of small to medium duty trucks to the fndustrlal
commun(ty; that it will be a 5-day ~ week operation for commercial applicetion only and
ll~~r~ will bc no rcntals tn in~iividuals for furniture moving~ etc.; that there are no
maintenance facilities in this area at the present time.
Commissianer T~l~r ex~~l~~ined his concern is what type of work will be done on the vehicles
in thic building.
Mr. Earnhart replied they will do full range preventive maintenance, excluding body work;
that they will do oi) changes, tune-ups, brake Jobs~ wash the veF~lcles (pointing out
there is a covered wash bay in back of the facility); transmissi~n overhauls; engine over-
hauls,etc.
Chairman Herbst asked if all this work will be done inside. tf~e facility and Mr. Earnhart
explained that it would be done inside the facility to~ally and that the only storage
that will actually be done is far those units that are in for SOme type service, plus r.he
smal) rental fleet which will be out during the day most of the t~rne and back in in the
evening.
Commissioner Tolar asked that tlie hours of operation be stipulated and Mr. Earnhart replieu
the hours of operation ar~e projected to be commercial hours of operation and estimated
them to be 7:00 a,m. to 7:00 p.m, - 5} days a week. He explained they are a service
business and their hours would dPpend upon the customers in rhe area.
Commissioner Tolar stated if he supports this request, it will be with specific hours
of operation.
Mr. Earnhart stated the maximum hours of operation would he 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m.
Chairman Herbst asked if the leasing operation is on a yearly basis, or if peaple could
come in and ledse a truck for one day, and Mr. Ea~nhart exp!ained there will be some of
the one day leasing to industrial or commercial users only and that there will be no
leasing of trucks t~ individuals.
Chairman Herbst asked if any maintenance will be done on other vehicles and Mr. Earnhart
replied the main~enance will be strictly on their own vehicles.
Commissioner Barnes stated she was interested in th~ impact on the parking in the area
and asked if there would be vehicles parked on the street and Mr. Earnhart replied
they have provided more than adequate parking on site. Commissioner Barnes explained
if the request is approved and it is stipulated there will be no parking on the street,
and parking is done on the street, then the permit can be revoked and Mr. ~arnhart
indicated he had no probtem with that stipulation.
9/t9/7G
MINU7E5~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, February 11, ~g~g 79-126
EIR NEGATIVE DECI.ARATION~ WNIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT ~ CONDITIONAL USE FtRMII
N0. 1~!~2 ~continued) _
Commissioner Tolar asked the length of the lease and Mr. Earnh~rt replled they have a
10-year lease with two five-year optlons.
CoR~issioner Johnson clarified that the trucks i~ow parking on the street are not
connected with this aperatlon and Mr. Earnhart indicated he did not know who owns those
trucks and indicated he shares the apposition's cancern regarding those trucks.
Chairman Herbst referred to the gates from LaJolla on the rear cf thc property and asked
how they fit in with this usc.
Mr. Warden explained the purpose U~ lf~use ydley ~C tl~e ~outh i~ for a circular motion
~nd ~xplained the f~ar.ility tn the suur.h has an ~~~reement with the lessee that they will be
able to use the gates and the driveways because Red Gum is nat fully de~~eloped and use of
the driveway to the sauthe.ast corncr of the lot makes it diffic~.ilt for enterinn and exiting
with lhcir trucks.
Chairman Herbst asked if th~ pa~-king spaces shown are for the use of the petitioner or
the adjacent property and Mr. Warden replied they are for the use of the southern pr~~erty.
Comrnissioner Bushore asked if staff had reviewtd the revised plan with the driveway
configuration ~nd it was replied thct Jim Kawamura, Traffic Engineering Assistant,
had reviewed it.
Mr. Warden explainNd at present Gypsum Entcrprises uses the entire properiy, but are
going to lease this portion to the 2ruck rentai facilitv.
Commissioner ~ushore stated he felt this would be a very goad use for the industrial area;
however, he wa= opposed ~a the six-fout high screening wdth the slats as proposed.
Mr. Earnhart stated last summer ~~other company similar to this one came into the city
and applied for a conditianal use permit (Californi.. Truck Leasinq) on 8a11 Road,east of
Anaheim Boulevard and they operate more and larger equipment than this and they have a
six-foot slatted fence,and also Rawlins Leasing on Bail Road.
Commissioner Bushore stated he was not on the Commission when those uses were approved,
but he did not think a 13-foot high fence is necPssary; however~ if the appticant would
stipulate to an eight-foot high block wall, he would support the request because he felt
some of the use needs to be hidden and pointed out this is a beautiful industrial area
and this is an oppor[unity to improve that corner.
Mr. Earnhart stated the only objection would be to the cost. He explained he is not
opposed to the screening concept because it does make the neighborhood a lot neater.
He stated this is ~ot a truck storage yard a~d will not have a lot of visible equiprnent
sitting there.
Cammissioner Bushore stated he did not think anyone e, e in that industrial area has been
granted what is being requested here, but that he could be wrong since he has not been on
the Commission that iong; that he is not asking that the entire property be provided with
a block wall. but oniy those portions that face on Red Gum and La Jolla. He stated he
would be opposed ta the screening with slats but that he has no objection to the use whatso-
ever.
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MINUTES, 1NANEIM CITY FLANNING COMMISSION, Febru~r•y 12, 1979 7~-127
EIR NEGATIVE DEC~ARATION, WAIVER OF C~DE REQUIREMCNT b CQN~ITIONAL USF. P~RMIT
N0. 1 42 continuec!) __
Mr, Earnhar~ indicat^d ~ie would like to have the other Cornmissianers' thauc~hts regarding
thc block wall.
Commissinner Tolar ~taled he appr~ciates thet this is an opportu~~lty to help clean up that
area, t-ut h~ was r~,•t surr: that a block wal 1 1 s neccssary in order to do that . Ne fe) t
if the property c~uld be screenecl with slats and landscapinq ,is proposed~ that it will
clear~ up the co rner and t.he blc~ck wall wnuld be unreasonable to lay on a les5ee to improve
that property; th~t even over a ien-year pPriod of time it would be hard to amortizc It.
He felt ~i..+nsr landsc.-~ping and sl.~ts could accomp~ish what needs t~ he done. He stated
a lot of the industrial area~ have been aesthecic~illy well-screeiied with dense landscaping
and slats rather than with block walls and pnint~d out th~~t w,,lls have a tendency [o ~ook
very bland aiid ~~cuplr. ~!u v.~ite an the~n and hc t~clt it is unrcisonabl~ t~ requirP i hl~ck wall.
Conxnissioncr Bushore stated he had vlewed th.; prn~~rr[y and there are cxisting slats and
he could see right through them and did not like what h~ saw. Ne asked how many lineal
feet arc involved and Ptr. Earnhart replied it is ~ver 400 lin~al f~et ,and an 8-foot block
wall would be vcry expensive.
Chairman Nerbst sta[ed since this is a corner nroperty, chey will be abligated to pravide
25 feet of landscapiny and hc felt the landscaping could br. donr, in a manner wi~'~ shrubbery
su~h as oleanders or s~mething similar a~ainst the fence ~,nd the prcperty could ~~Imost be
cumpletely screened ~n ane ycar'S timr..
Cc~mmission~r Barnes Sca[nclshe was also concerned about th~~ landscaping and indicated she
would like tu see the landscape plans bro~gh[ back before the C~mmission,pointing out
N~r. No~aqle's building is well lan~scaped across the st.reet. Shc stated the ~~urpose of
the landscaping would be to hide compl:.~rely anyching inside the yard and sug~~ested the
pet~tiuner tal:e a cue from the landscaping across the street.
Chairman Nerbst stated he felt it would ~r.~ virtually impossible to entirf~-y scr2en the
13-foot high trucks which do belc~ny in the industria~ area. He stated you v.~~uld be able
to see the trucks in the rear, but you would see the I~ndscaping in front which would
break thc starkness of the size of the trucks.
Chairman Herbst pointed out in other arcas,such as Irvine, redwoc~d slatting has been
provided for screening and you can see throuyh it, but it does provi ~ adequate screening.
Commicsioner Bushore stated those slats are for typ+ca) ind;~strial users, but this is not
a typical industrial use sir,ce they are propo~ing a rental ~torage maintenance facil~ty
in an industrial area and he felt there is a differerice.
Chairman Herbst explained all work will be done ?ns:~P the building.
Mr. Earntiart sYated Du~n Pr~perties is develaping all the pioperty contiguous and eastward
of subj~ct property and will be landscapir~g all the way down La Jolla and asked if they
could tie in with that landscaping theme.
;hairman Herbst stated he srill felt that they need more dense landscapi~g along the
Fencing bec:use of the storage of the vehicles.
Mr. Earnhart asked if the landscaping would be as opposed to slats and Chairman Herbst
stated the slats are ;till required, but landscaping should be in front of the slats.
2/12/79
MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY ~LANNING COMMISSION, February 12, 1979 19-128
F.IR NEGATIVE DECLARATION, WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMEMT b CONQITIONAL USE PERMIT
N0. 19-+2 (contlnued) _T __...___.._.._._.,_..._. _.r __.__
Mr, Earnhart explatned ag~in th(s is not really a storage yerd such a~ seen at the
recreatio~al vehicle storage yards.
Cornmissioner Barnes asked if the petitioner fs obJecting c~ putting in I~ndscaping and
Mr, Earnhart replied he was not ubJecting to the landSCaping but was afraid ~f the
cost and wos concerned i t c:ould end u~ cc~st iny more ihan the 450 feet of block wal l.
Ch,.ilrman Herbst explained whether the wall or the fencing with slats Is provided, the
25-foot landscaped setback will be a reyuirement and the Corr-mis°~ion ls suggestin~ rmre
~ense iandSCaNiny ~~e,~t Lu thc fencc. t~ hclt: :,creen t!~e ~+rn~,Pr~v an~1 rrtt ~f the landscapinq
cc~uld go along with the other landscaping in the area.
Commiss(oner Barnes stated she f~lt this is a nice area and there is Iancl~.c~+Nin~ qoing
(nto the industrial areas and we are tryiny to create an atmosphere in our industrial
area which will attrac: people from ail over the United States.
Commissioner Bushore s[ated louking at the existing slats he c~~uld see exactly what is
there now and he supposed tha[ is what he is trying to cover, not the use at this
facll(ty, bul what is b~tiind it. He felt with the qates and both properCies using
them proper screening will n~t. be provided.
Mr. Warner stated ther!~ wi 11 be an addi t ional fence across the south whlch wi 11 help
block the view and also the or~~~ whole side will be b~ocked by the buildinQ. He stated
the people behindthem do have quite a number of tall diesel trucks.
Commi~,sioner Elushore stated he objected to the slats becau~P once the~ are put in~ they
are never looked at again.
Mr. Warner stated that is not the case here because ti'!e:y ~.annVt afford to look second rate.
Commissioner Tolar str,ted they have agreed to landscape anc! that the Conmission will have
to approve the landscape plans and the pet~tior+er has hea~d and understands the conver~ation
that h~s gore on here today and i~~ felt there would not be a problem. He stated the
landscaping the Cammission has in mind will not cost 3~ much as a block wall.
Comm(s~ioner Johnson stat~d he likes screening t~o, but putting in an 8-foot block wall
would b4 l~cking the yard in here from now on and referred to the previous hearing where
the wa'1 is existing and the Commission felt they had to approve therequest far storage.
He stated he would go alc~ng wi th the chain ! ink fence wi th , iwood slats because propcrty
d~>es get t remendous I y va 1 uab 1 e.
ACTION: Commissioner Tolar affered a rnotior, seconded by Comnissioner K~,~g ancl MOTION
CARRIEO that the Anaheim City Planning Commission nas reviewed the proposal t~ per•r,iit a
truck rental and le~sing facility with awaiverof required enclu~ure of ot~tdoor u~~~s
on a rectangularly-shaped parcel of land consisting o` approximately I.l acres located
at lhe southeast corner of La Jalla Street and Red Gucn Street, having approximate
frontages of 298 feet on the south side of La Jotla Street and 155 feet on the east
side of Red Gum Strezt; and does hzreby approve the Negative Declar~tion from the require-
ment to ~repare an environm~ntal impact repArt on the basis that Yhere would be no signi-
flcant individual ar cumulative adverse environmental impact d,~e to the approval of this
Negative Declaration since the Anaheim Ge~hera! Plan designates the subject prope:ty fo~
general industrial land uses commensurate with the proposal; that no sensitive enviror.rtiantal
impacts are involved in the p~oposal; that the Init~al Study submitted by the petitioner
indicates no sig ~ificant individua~ or c~~mutative adve~se environmental impacts; and that
the Negative Declaration substantiating the foregoing findings is on file in the City of
Anaheim Planning Department. 2~~2~~9
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MINU7E5, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COM`11SSlON, Fcbruary 12~ 197q 19-129
EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION~ WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT E CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
N0. 1942 (continuad
AGTION: Commissioner Tol~r offored a metian~ s~conded by Commissioner Kinq and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Bushcre voting no) that the Anaheim C(ty Planniny Cnmmission
does hereby grant the requcst for waiver of cod~ requirement ~n the has~s that other
properties In the induskrlal areas have boen ailoweci fnr starage of vehicles or equipment
with a 6-foot screentny fence and denial would be deprlving subJect property of p~lvlleges
~•~~joyed by othe~ properties under identical zonina classification.
Cornmissioner Tolar offered Resolution No. PC79-35 and moved for its passage and adoption
thAt thP AnahPim Cltv Planninq Commissio~~ does hereby grant the Petition for
Conditional Use Perm(t No. 1942, subJect to the follc~wing condltions stipulated tu l,y
the petitloner; that all work on ll~~ tru~ks shall bu conducted wholly Inside thP build(ng;
that perm(tted mechanical work shall consist of minor repairs and maintenanc- of petitioner's
vehicles only with no maintenan~e services being offered tu lh~ genera! pu` .; that land-
scaping plans showing dense landscaping along Red Gum ar~d La Jolla Streets ahall be
reviewed and approved by the Planning Commission prior to the issuance of a building permit;
that no large semi-tr~ctor/trailer typa vehicles shall be st~red on s~ub,jPct property;
that a maximum of 25 twenty to twenty-two foot iong "bobtail" trucks shall be stored nn
the property at any one time; and that adequate parking shall be provideJ on-site for all
employees, rental vehicles and custoR~er's vehicles; and sub.ject t~ Interdepartmantal
Committee recuinmendations.
On roll call, the foreyoing resolution was passed by the fullowing vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, OAVID~ HERBST, KING, JnNN50N b TOLAR
NOES: CO"1MISSIONERS: BUSHORE
ABSE~T: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
2/12/79
MINUT ES. ANAHEIM CITY PLANNIN G COMMISSION~ FE~RUARY 12. ~91g 79-130
ITEM N0. 1
0 S 0 REGOMMENDATIONS
A. RAILROAU NOiSE IN SAN TA ANA STREET AREA
Robe ~t Kelley, Associate Plann er~ presented the staff report t~ th~ Planninq Commission
deted Fnbruary 12~ 1979, nuti~_y that on Jenuary 3~ 197`~~ du~inq the h~:a~ing on the Nolse
Element of the 6ene~al Plen~ a resident of Mahelia pre~ented e compl~int concerntn~ noise
from operatlons of the Southe rn Pac(fic Rallroeci on Santa Ana Stre:et and thet the Planning
Commisslon had reouested staff to prepore e rcport on the matter and determtne If tf~ere
a~e mlt(gatlon measures whtch could reduce tl~e nolsC (mpect. Hc !r~dic~+t~~ Rcaff has
cone 1 uded thet the i r yu,yges t i on wou 1 cl be that thP rPS I ~fents can reduce ( nter tor no i se
leve ls by installinq insulation and doubl~ wind~ws tns(d~ their homes and thet thcre may
be tax credits available for this bec9use of the cncrc~y conservAtion features of such
meas ures. He pointed aut other near torm mitigatlon measures w~uld appear to tnvolve
cons iderable expensp~ t(me~ an d passthle controverslr~ features and~ in edditlan, may have
only lirnited effeGttvencss.
Chai ~man Nerbst referred to the memor~ndum f~om the U.S. Governmme~nt~ Depae~tmcnt of
Tran sportation~ and thcir camment that th~y would be making some attempt to mitigate the
poll utlon problem.
Mr. Keiley polnted out this in volved allawing the diesel engines ~ Idle and he did not
knorr what was being done about that situatiu~~. He pointe~l out one of these enn,'nes fs
ve ry difficult to start and h e did not know (f the City hes any controi of this situation.
Commissioner d~rnes asked abo ut the railroad using the~ whistle at the crossing and the
poss ibillty of a guarded inte~section,
M~. K~lley replied that refe re nce was to West Street and he had dtscussed this metter with
the Traffic Ertgineer, and he had indicated the traFfic volumr ,id not warrant guarding the
int e ~section. He potnted out the Southern Paclfic Railroad has ignored this ordinance and
thei r personnel have indicated they w~~,~ld not c~mply unless the rsilroad legal staff so
advlsed them~ and the City At torney has indicated there vrould be a question of liability
in ease of an accfdent and en forcement of the ordinance would be difficult artd w ~Id
req uire extensive collection of data to provide evidence.
ACTI ON: Commissioner Barnes offe~ed a motion~ seconded by Commtssiunr_r Oavid and MOTION
~~t~0, that the Aneheim C~ty Pla~ning Cortmission does herebY recomme~d to the City
Coun ct) that thev reconmena the restdents in the area could provide tnsulation in thetr
hort+~ s which would provide some so~t af ~ound barrier~ and ihat the City Cou~ci) do
eve rything possible by way of correspondence to the railroad company cflncerning the
complaints, with carbon copics to the Occupational Safety b Health Adm:ntstration (OSHA).
B. ABANDONMENT N0. 78~17A - Request to abandon a portton of an existing public
uti ty easement Ooc ated ~125 feet, more or less~ north of Brll Road from 364
¢aet~ mor.: or less~ west ta 251.75 feet west of Beach Boulevard.
The staff report to the Planning Commission dated February 12~ 1979 was p~esented, noting
the request is to abandon a portion of en existing public utility easement located north
of Ball Road~ west ot' Beach k3oulevard; that the request has been ~eviewed by all
departments of the City t+nd affected outside a~~encies and approval ts recocnrt~ended; that
the subJect egsement was originally acquired by the Southern California Edison Gompany and
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ FEDitUARY 1'l~ 1979 79-130
ITEM, ~N0,~. 1,~
A~~ORTS ANU aEGOMMENUATIUNS
A, AAILROAU NOISE IN S ANTA ANA STREET AREA
Robert K~Iley~ Associate Planner, prtaented the stsff report to the Plenn(ng Cortmission
deted February 12~ 1979~ noting that on J~nurry 3~ 1979. during tl~e hearfnq on the Noise
Element of the Genrral Plan~ a restdent of Anahetm presented a camplelnt concernin~ nois~
from ope ~otlons of the Southern Pacitfc Railroad on Senta Ana Street end th~t the Pla~n(n,q
Commission had requesteJ staff to prepa~e s report on the metter and dctcrm(nr if there
are mitigetion measures wt~ici~ ~uu1~J r~ducc thc nais~ Ir!~.+~c~, H~ indtcated staff hes
conclude d that their suqgestion wo~alcl b~ that the resi~lents can reduce (nterior noise
lavels by (nstalliny insulation And double wtndaws tnside their hames end thnt there may
be tax c redits avallable for this be~auss of the energy c~nsPrvation features of such
rneaaures. He pointed out ott~er neer t~rm mltigation mcasures woulo appear ta lnvaive
considerabi~ expense~ time~ and possible controvers(al features and~ in eddition~ may hnve
only 1(rnited effect(vencss.
Cha(rman Nerbst referred to the memorandum from the U.S. Govcrnment~ Dn~~Artment of
Transpor tat ion, ~nd the ( r co~mien t that they wou I d be mak ( ng sorne at tem~-t to mi c i gete the
pollut(on Nroblem,
Mr. Kelley po(nted out this inv~lved allnwinq the diesel enc~ines to Idle and he did nat
knuw wha t was being done abo ut tf~.,t sttuatlo~. He pointed uut one of these engines is
ve ry dif flcult to start and he did not know if the City hns any control of this situatlon.
Canmissioner Barnes asked abc+ut the railroad using the whistle at the crossing and the
possibllity of a guard~d intersection.
M~. Kclley replied that reference was to West Strcet and he hed discussed this matter with
the Traf`~ Engineer~ and he had inciicdted the treffic volume did not warrant guarding the
intersec..ion. Ne pointed out the Southern Paciflc Rallroad has Eynored this ordina~ce and
thelr pe rsonnel have indicated they would n~t comply unless the r~tlroad legal staff so
advised them, and the City Attcrney has ind~ ateQ rhere would be a question of liobiltty
ln case of an accident and enfo~cement nf the ordina~ce would be diff'cult and would
rnqulre extensive collection of deta to provlde ev(dence.
ACTl~N: Conmissioner darnes offered a mocton, s~cnnded by Conmissioner David and MOTION
~D, that the Anaheim City Planning Ccim~issic,n does hereby reconmend to the City
Council that they recommend the restdents (n the area could provtde insulation in their
homes which w~uld provide some sort of sound bar~ter, and thnt the City Council do
evc rything possible by way of correspondente to the railroad company concerning the
wmplai~ ts. with carbon copies to the Occupational Safety 6 Health Administration (OSHA).
8. ABANDONMENT N0. 7$-17A - Request to abandon a portion of an existing public
uti~~ty easement located 112y teet. more or less, no~th of Ball Road from 364
feet, more or less, west to 251.75 feet west of Beach Baulevard.
The staff report Zo the Planning Cammisslon dated February 1?, 1979 was presented~ noting
the req uest is to abandon a portion of an existing public utility easement located north
of Ball Road~ west af Beach Boulevard; that the request has been ~eviewed by all
departments pf the City and affected oueside agencies a~d approval is reco~miended; that
the subJ act easement was originally acq~~ired by the Southern California Edison Company and
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNiNu COMMISSIQN~ FEBRUARY 12~ 1979 79-131
REQORTS ANU RECOMMENDATIONS - ITEM B(continued)
a:tiqned to the City at thc tirr~ of acquisltion of Edison Campany's faciltttes tn xhls
area~ and the C(ty Electrlc~l Ulvislon stated they heve ~o present or future facllittes
propoaed t~r this part of said eesement; and that an enviro~mental review of this
~equest Indtcates this ~~e categorica~ily exempt from th~ requlrem~nt of tht filinq of an
Eia.
ACTION; Commissioner King offe~ed a mott~n~ seconde~l by Commissioner David and MOTION
ARRIED~ that the Anahetm City Plann(n4 Commission does hereby recommend to the Ctty
Council thet Abandonmen; No. 78-i7A be approved.
C. ABANDONMENT N0. /ts-k~N ~ Re(~UCSL to abandon re~~r.i.~~t trrevocahle offer of
e cat on or street purposes of Lots H end C~ TraGt No. 3~~~~ located south of
l.i~coln~ west of Westchester Orive.
The staff report ta the Planning Cummission dated February 12~ 1979 was presented~ noting
the reque~t Is to abandon a recorded irrrvocable offer of dedicecion for street purpe-es
of Lots ~{ and C of Tract No. 3l~bf, located south of ~incoln~ west of Westchester Dr(ve;
that the request has bren reviewed by all departmr:nts of the City and affected outside
agenciea and approval ts reconmended; that the ultimate right-of-wsy of Westchester Or(ve
and thc alicy ta the west were dcdic~ted and fully lmprnv~d at Che tfine of recordotion of
and developmenc of Trnct No. 3~06; that the intent of the irrevocable offer of dedlcation
for street a~d alley purposes was tn apecify the cost of the street and alley and to allow
access to the owners of the property to the west of Tract No. 3886 upon the payment of
their proportionate share of the cost of tmprovement of said street and alley; that Lhe
applicant has acqutred the fc:e title to said Lots 0 and C from the previous developer of
said Tract No. 3~u'i by grant deed recorded December 1~~ 197~ and requests that the
dedicated irrevocet,le offer of de~iication for streGt an~ alley purposes across said Lots B
and C be abandoned so as to clear this potentia) dedication from their kitle; that the
appitcant has submitted a parcel map which clea~ly indicates the p~oposed subdivfsio~ of
his property tncludtng the erea included with Lots B and C~ which clearly indicate~ that
all of the required street and alley dedications have ber.n mr.t and subJect Lots B and C
are no longe~ requlred for the intended purpose; and th~t an environmental review of the
p~oposed abandonment indicates this to be cate~orically exempt from the requirement of an
EIR.
ACTION; Commtssioner Y.ing offered a motion~ seconded by Canmissioner David and MOTION
~ Ri D, that the Anaheim Clty Planning Commisslon does hereby ~ecommend to the City
Council that Abandonment No. 7£s-23A be approved.
D. ~IAIVER OF HILLSIDE GkADING ORDINANCE - TRAC' N0. 841b
Jay Tashi~o, Associate Pianner, indicated staff would '!ke to request that consideration
of this item be continueJ For two weeks inasmuch as an exhibit is not available.
ACTION; CommissiAner David off~red a motion~ seconded by CortmissIoner King and MOTIC~N
CARRIEG~ that the cansideration of aalver of the Hillstde G~ading Ordinance for Tract No.
841a be continued to the regularly-scheduled meeting of the Anaheirn City Planni~g
Commission on Februa ry 2L~ j979.
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ FEBRUAR~ 12~ 1979 »'13~
REPORTS ANU KECOMMENUATIONS (co~ttnued)
E. COiJU1T10NAl USE PERMIT N0. ~~lti - Raquest for te~rntnation.
The staff report to tt,e f'lanning Commission dated Fabruary 12~ 197y was presented~ not(ng
subJect property Is a rectangulerly-shapad ~erce) of land conststi~ig oP approximat~ly .C11
acre having ~n fronta•~e of app roximately 131 feet on the s~uth sidc of Orangewo~d Avenue~
having a maximum depch of approxtmately 245 feet~ and uetng loceted approxlmately 245 feet
west of the ~enterline of Spf~nakE~ Straet; thdt the appllcent (Robert Wlens) requests
termination of Conditiana) Use Permtt No. 1716 whtch was grenteci by the Plonntng
Commission on Decen~b~r 1~-~ 1~70~ to perm(t a day care center in th~ it5-A-43~QQ0
(Residentlal/Agrlcultural) Zone; thac on Uecember 5~ 1~377~ the Pla~ning Commission
approved Reclasstflcati~n No. 71~7a-32 to reclasslfy subJect property from tha RS-A-43~0(10
Zon~ to the RM-1'l0~ Zone In order to construct a 16-unit ~pertment complPx~ and one of the
condttlans ~f the approval wes tn~t n 1Ctte~ rcquc:,ttng ter~~~'~~~Inn ef Cand(ttone) Use
Permit No.1216 be permitted and said letter requestiny termination has be~n submitted~
ACTION: Commissioner Dav(d ~ffrre~i Resolut(on No. PC79-}n ~nd moved for its passage and
adoptTon~ that the Anaheim Gtty Planning Comm(xsion does Fiereby terminate Petitlon for
Condl tional Use Perml t No. 121t;,
On roll ca11~ the f~regoing res~~~ution ~vas pessed by the follawinq vate:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES~ BUSNORE~ DAVID, HERBST~ JONN~Or~~ KING~ TOLAR
NOES: COMMISSIONERS; NON~
Af1SENT': COMMISSIONERS: NONE
F. ~~BILE HOM~ SI~~DIVISIONS. UEVELOPMENT PROCESSING TIME~ AtID REN7AL ASSISTANCE.
Josl Fick~ Asststant Director for Pl+~nniny~ pressnted the staff repo~t to the Planning
Comm(sslon dated February 12~ 1~+7y~ notiny that during the past several months lssues
regarding encouragemenmt of {aw or moderate incorne hou3ing have besn (ntroduced by the
public; that the City Council~ on Navember 7~ iS78, directed steff to take stea~ to
aliminatc or re~'~~ce to the yreatest degree red tepe to sho~ten thc buildin_y permtt
process~ to ~~ek rentai credit banGftts through State eme~ge~cy legislation, and to amend
City orsilnances to permtt development of mobile home subdivislons~ as well as permit
conversion of existing mobile home parks to subdivisions or condomtniums; and that the
staff repo~t discusses staff findings and conclusions with respect to this request. He
pointed out that on page (9) vsrious alternatives arc presented. He noted there were
persons present (n the audience who mi~ht have tnformatlon to Rresent.
Pat Kish indtcated currentlY she is the Housing Gonsultant ~or Supervtsor Ralph Clark and
ls a memFier of the Netional hbbile Home G~uncil and ts an advocate o~~ m~bile home
development. She stated she had rev6ewed the staff repo~t and found it quite attractive
and she would be happy to ansr+rer any ~uestions.
Mr. Fick suggested the Commissla~ discuss the putcntia) alternatives on a point-by-point
basis ~nd~ in additlan~ they could add~ alter or delete any alternetives they might
desire. Ne explutned Portion A~ Building Permit P~ocess, AlternativGS 1 and 3~ would
essentially be procedural items which would help expedlte the building permit process for
private proJects Nhich thz developer could initlate. He st~ted Alternetive 2 would
require instttution of a priority plen check procedure and~ if established~ perhaps other
types of uses would get "second seat" du~ing 'the ~eview process.
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ FEaRUARY 12~ 19~~ 79-133
REPqRTS_AND RECOMMCNDATIONS_- ITEM F (contlnued)
Ch.•trn~n Hcrbst Indiceted !~•~ould not like to see a priarity process established and plan
check f~r a mobile home park take precedence over other developments and dtd not feel the
ur~ency is thec great due to present processing proctices.
Mr. ~i~ exptained Alternative 4~ if detArmined to he app~opriato by the Commisston~ would
eatablish a fae relmbursement for dlffdrent types of devcl~pment f~es~ and Comnissioners
Herbst~ Toler and Johnson indlcated they did nat a~re~ wlth tl~at crtterla.
Commissio~er Tolar stated m~blle homes are not mobile tod~y and referred to tf•e park on
Sunktsi vlsited during the lunch hour. pointing out those people do not pay taxes because
of the veh(cle licensing pracess, and felt tlie only ~evenue th~ City has is through the
building permit process and `.~ did not want tn see that situatton changed. He felt ft is
a vary sm.z!? ~;M±~_r.t t~ ~~~y In relationshtp to some cost/revenue beck to the Ctty because
they do not receive any bencfits aFterwards.
Cammissioner Herbst felt this Is one situa~lo~ whlch should bc explored and
recummendatlons should be made to the State tl~at the mobile home ordinence should be
changed so that they are called p~efabrlcAted houses rather than moblla nert-es so that the~y
would becnme real prap~~ty since they are proposing a+n•your-own fecility-type situ~ttons.
He felt if mobile home parks become housing for families wtth chtldren~ then schoal taxes
sh~uld be paid and that is done through pt'operty texes. Me stated currently a lot of the
parks ere designed for adulcs only, but !t is posslble they would be allaving chtldren tn
the future. He also felt these pa~ks should be called planned community developments and
then they could have cove~ants~ condittons ond restrictions which could control the
situatlon.
Commissto~er Tolar asked Ms. Kish if the Supervisors had dtscussed mobile homes being
licensed rather than taxed.
Ms. Kish stated presently the~: is legislatlon In the Mcorktng to restructure the taxes;
that rx~btle homes are under the Department of Moto~ Vehi..le taxes; and if a park ts
located withi~ a city. those taxes are broken down in three ways: one-third to the city~
one-third to the schools, and o~e-third to the county; and if thn park is located in the
county~ the taxGS are b~oke~ dewn in two ways: one-half to Lhe county and o~se-half to the
school district. She stated th~. in o-der for mobi-e hcxnes to be accepted as housing,
which they are, tliere have to be s4~~: changes made in the tax structure; that there Is a
possibil:ty af grandfathering in the e.cisting mobile horr~ owners who are on rental
property~ giving them e choice of whetler or nnt they would prefer to go or~ to "ad
valo~em" or remPin on "in lieu"~ but th~rc definitely is legislatto~ in the working to
chenge the taxatfon of mabile homes. Sl~e stated in ansvrer ta another comnent that was
made on the planned community developmert such as proposed at the Cook's Corner
development~ that dev~lopment wouid be ci privately-c~wned property and those people would
be paying ad valorem taxes, but tt~at thi: Es a manurnental task and is beiRg undertaken at
the S~ate level.
Commissloner Tolar asked the time frame for getting some type of chan~ge. and she indicated
it certainly would help to have the local Planninp Commissions and Ctty Councils
correspond with the legislator~ B~:~ce Nestande~ who wili be introducing this kind ot
I~gislatton and ta encourage that this bill pass. She indicated Judging from her
experiencs with the State le~glslator. this would not have any clifficulty in passtny~ but
snaving the support o~ the Planning Commissions and Citv Councils would deflnttely be
helpful.
Comnissioner Tol~~ suggested that part of the Comnisslon's recorrrr~ndation rega~ding the
m~tille home ardinance should include suprort of that bill. He asked the number of the
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REI'ORTS AND RECOMMENUATIONS -._ITEM F (contlnued)
Assembly b111 ~ and Ms. Kish t'epI leJ tliere i~. nut ~ bl l l numbr.r att++ctird to ~ yet~ but
that she would sae to it ~hat the Plann(ng Commisslon would receive nottflc clon of It
from 14r. Nestande's offlce.
Ms. I;ish polntecl out that about two years ago she was activp with Senat~r Paul Ca~penter
on hls adv(sory board and they had hand-carrted a questfonna(re throu~ahout mobile home
parks in the County. a~d had rec~ived 5~OU0 questtonnatres beck; that there ere ovar
60~00~ mobile h~me aw~ers in this County, with 2y~ mobile ~~me parks and over 3> p~rks
wlthin "he C1ty of Anaheim alone; and that the results of the questionnalre had pointed
out the ma,ior ~robloms ar~ Increasing rents and dictatarlal rt~anagement. She st.eted the
people are in a~ocked-in position because they have made a sizable investment In thelr
mobile home and in their lands~~ping end they are not mobtl~ anymore~ and that the
ma~ufacturers would be tl~e f+ ~t to acknc~wledgc that; that the only time they are mobtie
is when Cl~ry are brought f~ ~ thr factory to the site. She ref~rred to a recent
experience of a couple loc.ted ln Anaheim's Del Prado Park on Euc11J wl~o had moved Incn
the park in 196~ and th.~• it was a"pet park"~ but when rheir pet died~ aftPr seven o~
eight years~ thetr ~au~ ter bought them another ~+et end becaus.~ of thts situation~ they
were evicteJ and lost .he right to sell their mnblle home locak~~d in th~e pa~k and had only
gottan $9~000 fo~ a rade-in; that the mobile home had to be rert~~vcd~ they hed to vacate~
and the total cost r~ the inubile home owner was In the area of $Fb~~OQ to S9~,000~
including thefr at:orney fees and park c~wner's attorney fees. Sne felt one of the
solutions to the situ:~tion is giving the ~eople a choice of lI'restyles~ allawing them to
c;hoose a prop~rty ownership~ and this Is sv~,~ethiny thls County has not done. She stated
If the Cooks' Corner developrnent. materializes~ it will be the fit'st of its kind and it is
definitely needed throughout the County. not only ta provide low or moderate income
housing, but actually giving the people their ciioice. She stnted she has received many
calls from homeowners in the Clty af Anaheim w:+nting t~ know why they could not purchase a
lot w(thin the City limits after being a citizen of this County for 30 years and why they
have to go out to Cook's Corner if thcy want this form of lifestyle.
Chafrman Herbst asked if she had any feeli~g for what the mintmum site would be for a
small communlty development, and Ms. Kish replied it wouid be advantageous if the
requ:reme~t could be lvwered to five acres. arid possibly nine units per acre, which would
be what San Diego Couniy is terming a mini-park.
Chairman Hetbst pointed out every proposal for a mobile home perk submitted in Anahe(m
which abuts a residential area has had a lot of oppositian. and that a five-acre site
adJaccnt to a high-class residentia) area wo~~ld certainly cause e lot of oppositlon.
Ms. Ki~t~ indicated that would not be anything new; that there is a wide-s~ale educational
program betng conducted and that Art Linkletter is the spok~sman for ttie manufacturing
i~dustry te bring farth to the people a new and improved image concerning mobile homes
since they are housiny. She stated al) mobile homes since 197b are built according to
Housing and Urban Development (HUD) standards and even canventi~~nal homes are not b~iilt ko
those standards.
Chatrman Herbst asked if a mobile home park is involved in low cost housing, would HUD
support rental assistance i~~ th~t situation.
Ks. Kish pointed out Congressman Patterso~ had recently introduced an amendme~t to Section
8 of the Housing Assistance Program which has been signed by the Presic' ~t and will now
qualify mobile home awners to receive rental assistance on their space ~ental; that in the
past mobtle home owners, simply because they vwn the structure~ were penalized by not
qualifying for rental assistance. She stated this bill has becn passed and Is presentl~r
bei-g held up by HUD on drawing up af the guidelines.
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING CoMMISSI~N, FEBRUARY 12~ 1g79 19-135
REPURT5 AND KECOrtiENUATI0N5 ~ !TE M ~ ~conttnued)
Chsl~msn Nerbst stnted all clties are concerned with low- u~st houstng and where (t is
going to be located end how wn wlil get there with the cost of housing today.
Ms. Ktsh stated she did not Ilka Co stey strictly on that pramtse; thet certa~.~ly it
should be tncluded~ b~~t felt another area which shou;d be concentrated on (s providinq the
people a 100~ choice of lifestyle. She felt when peopie have baen praporty owners and
declde to go into a moblfe home~ they should not be penelized Into ~c~ing into a rental
situatlo~~ and she felt new is the tlme for a maJor city like Anaheim ta yet lnvolved in
thts situattan. She poPnted out the Mayor of Anaheim ha~ been quite Interested tn this
and tl~et the Ctty Council and Supervisors ere reluctant to onact any ktnd of ~ent~)
control ordinances and felt this ts one alternative to chat situetton.
Jack 4lhite~ Oeputy Clty Attorney~ poir.ted out e motion should be rt~+de concerning Se~tlon
A~ 8utlding Pcrnf; Pracc;;.
Cheirman Herbst stated he felt the priority plan check p~ocedure should n~t t~e institutad
because It could put housing Ahead of an industry In the City whlch wll~ create Jobs,
polnting out lu dld not feel this Clty Is that far behtnd in its plan check procedure,
Commissioner Barnes asked tf thts Is referrinq only to the mnbile home subdi: s~ons~
indtcating her interest in other typ~s of low i,;~ome or moderate inco--~ housing.
ACTION: C~mmissioner Tolar offered a rt~~ta~, seconded by Commissioner Dav(d end MOTION
~D~ that the Anahetm City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City
Councll that Alt~~native i((nstitutfon of the "Super-stamp" procedure In all departments
for privaie mobile home proJects) and Alternative 3(recorm~ending the eval~ation of all
dspartmenta) handouts by staff) be approvsd; and Altcrnat(ve 2(for the fnstitution of a
priority pian check prucedure for mobile home parks) end Alternet(ve 4(that staff prepare
criterfa for fee reimbursement for ~11 or selected development feesfor m~bRle homis parks) be
deleted.
Mr. Fick explatned Portion H~ St~te Legislatlon, ofi ;he sta~ff report, noting Alternative 1
wuuld continue with rental assistance programs presentiy in progress in the Can~nunity
Deveiopme~t Department; Alte~native 2 would direct staff to continue to monitor new
leglslation for rental asslstance for patentlal implementation in Anaheim; Alternetive 3
would direct staff to evaluate existing housing needs ~nd develop a ve ry comprehensive
housing program through the Nousing ~lement; and~ from testlrrbny~ suagested Alte rnativc 4
should be altered to direct staff ta ~~c ttor tl,c s(tuatfon with potential tAx structure
changes and~ if appraprtate, recommend to the Cauncil tttiat they endorse that change in the
legislatton.
ACTION: Commtssfoner Tolar offered a motton~ secc:,ded hy Cnmmissioner Oavtd and MOTION
At D~ that the Anaheim City Planning Commisslon does hereby recommend tr, the Ctty
Co~ncil that they approve Alternative 1(the Comnunity Development Department continue
r~ith rental assistnce programs presently in progress)~ Alternative 2(staff continue to
mon(tor new legislatior for rental assistance fo~ potential implementa;.ion In Anahcim),
Alternative 3(staff comprehensively evaluate cxisttng ho~ 'ng needs~ problem-solving
strategtes and c~urses of action through the Housing Eleme, ~, a~d Altarnative 4 art~n~ad
Yo read "that tt~;. City of Anaheim should go on record encouraging future legislation
regarding a change in the tax str~icxure to rr~ore appropriately address mobiie homes."
M~. Ficic explained the sl~+ff report regar~ing Stction C~ Mobile Nane Subdivi;ion,
particularly pointing out Alternattve 2(that the General Plan text be amended to permit
mobile home park developn~nt in law denslty residential areas ur u,mmercia) ~r industrial
areas !f so deemed approprtate by the C~-mmissian). He stated currentiy mobile homes are
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ FEBRUARY 12~ 1979 19-136
REPORl'S AND RECOtiMENDATIONS - ITEM f(ca~tinued)
spectfled es npproprlate usea in low-medium and medium denslty residenti~l designations.
Ne polnted out that If the Commisslon feels the text should bo chenged~ Alt~srn~tfve 3
providas that the 2ontng Code could also be ~mended to permit mobile home parks by
conditlon~l use permit tn all zones; that Alte rnattvo 4 dlacusses the Sc~nic Co~rldor
Overlay 2one which presently prohibtts mob(le hornR perks in the Ml(SC) (Industrlal~
Limited•Scentc Corrtdor Overlay) ~ono; e~u thac Alte~natives 5 and 6 are tled together~
with Alternetive 5 belnq the recommended change to fivR acres i~ size~ whlch opens up
addltlonsl sites~ and Alternstive 6 al~awing the maximum denstty to b~ reduced to nine
lots per ,yross acrc.
C~mnissloner Tolar indiceted he has discomfart wtth allowing these uses in the industrtal
arca and Feit "industrial" should be taken out of the motio~. Ha patnted out Comm(ssioner
Be~nea hsd Indicated for comnercial areas this wo~~ld be a down-zon~ ond he would not be
oppusad to a inobi te home parl. In a camcrcial ~rea.
Chalrmrn Herbst (ndicated he thought there wrre snme comnwsrcial A~El15 where mabtle hame
pt~rks could be permitted by condittonal use perm(t.
Jack Wh(te~ Ueputy C(ty Attor~ey~ potnted out we aro discussing a conditional use pe~mit
procedure in any t~istance and not talking abo~. an outriyht perrnitted use.
Commisslone~ Tolar felt including indust~ial would be encourAg(ng developers to request
permits for those ereas.
Chairman Nerbst po~~:ed out today we had had o request for a church in an industrtal zone
and the petitioner had pointed out chu-cties are allowed with a condi;'onal use permit in
any zone.
Jeck Whtte pointed out ~he problem here is with the Gen~ral ~lan; that when s subdt~ision
map is submitted, the Subdivisio~~ Map l~ct prcvides thst in tirder to approve that map tt
has to be consistens wlth the General Plan; thai if the Ge~eral P1~~ showx the arae as
Industria) and there is nothing in the Pl~n thet says tndustrial land use• tnclude mobile
home park subdivisions, then as n matter of law the subdiviston is not consistent w'th the
6eneral Plan and cannot be epproved.
Chairnan Herbst stated tf a parttcular mobi le horr~ stte ~es provr to b: approprlate on
that slte~ then a General Plan amcndment c~uld be inltiated.
Commissioner Barnes stated the ~rport indicates the Gene~al Plan t~xt be amended to permit
mobi le home r~arks, She st~ted she real ;:es there is a iremendous ~eed for low-cost
housing and moaile home parks~ highrises, etc.~ h~•t f~lt. tt,e Cortmission should look at why
w~ Fav~ a General Plar, tn the firsr, plec~. ~he stated she wouid hate to see ail the zones
thiti~wn out +~nd developers come in and tell thc ~ornmission wh~ere they want the mobtie home
pa~ks and then thp Commtssio~ can decide. She stated shc w~uld like to see the requests
for mobile home parks be in the low~m~diurr~ rnedium and comn~ cial areas~ but that she Is
opposed to thefr being tn the indus• ial areas or law density residential areas because of
thR protection of the people ther~ ~ot frum lawtntome hou~i~g but from someti~ing they
did not expect to come into tt~etr .ea. which is higher denstty o- tommerctal
establishment or those sorts af th~ngs. She stated that is Nhy v.e have a General Plen .:d
that people depend up~n the '~eneral Plan.
Chairman Herbst indicated he would have to ag~ee ~ar~ce rning the lvw de~sity designation
and pointeu out a mobile home park with 9 untts to the acre wouid not I~e constdered low
density~ but that here again if the~e was a site Lhat would be compatible~ the petitioner
still would have th~ right to request the permlt.
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ttEPORTS AND REC014~MENQATIANS - ITEM F(cantinued)
Joel Fick indlcated tf he w~s reedinq the Commission correctly~ che way to Initiata
~pprop~late actlnn would be racommended epp~nval of Alt~rnative 1~ co expa~nd tha
deflnitlon of planned unit development to permit mobile tiome perk subdtvtstons lnitlally;
and then under Alte rnatlvc 2~ that the Genera- Plsn text De an~ended to also include moblle
home parks !r comm~rcial areas; ond under Alternative 3~ amend the Zon~~~q Code to permit
mob~le home parks by condittonal use permit tn the zones that implement cammercial~ low-
medlum ~nd medium denstty res{d~sntial.
Cha~rnnan He~bst potnted out we do allow medium de~slty resldentlal haw to down-zone
conrnerclel areas; that Is~ ctiange the commercial to residentiel with apartrtwnt houses~ and
he did not see (n ce~ta(n areas why mobile home parks would not fit. f1e staced tn other
areas we would stt 11 not be denying them eny rigl~ts h~r~i~--~ rhey ski 11 have the ric~ht to
reques t th~e permi t.
Mr. Fick .~sked if there wAS any fneling by the Commiss~~n rege~ding Alternat(ves 5 and 6
o~ the present size and maximum d~nsity for mnbilc home park sites.
Chairman Hrrbst asked how many s(tes in Anaheim would be available for mobilc home parks.
Qave A~derson~ Assistant Plan~er, painCed out there a~e not that many; that with a ftve-
ac.re minlmuin, there w~~uld prabably be arounJ I1. to 15 additional stt~s.
~hatrmen Herbst polnted out the possibility of someone wanttng to spl(t a parcel for
comne;rclal and a five•acre mob(le home park site.
Joel Fick statcd there arc existiny si[es b~tween five and ten acres, but there would atso
be additiunal sites on property thal will be annexed to the Gity~ for example. on some of
the ranr,hes .
Commissioner Barnes stated there are -~ ry f~wr undeveloped acres left in Anaheim and low-
to-rrbderatc incon~e housing Is needed ve ry 5adly~ but she felt the Commission had not
confront~d the issue~ whi~h is higl~rise buildinga~ and polnted out i09 units ta the acre
ceuld be developed if we even looked at hi~;hrise proJects, and yet the Conxniss(on has been
dragging their feet. ~he stated part of th.~ problem is che Cortmunity Housing Commissfon
keeps talkin~ about a recommendation thar we do not focus all of those lvw-income people
in o~e area and felt that was ridiculous because we are talking about one buildfng~ and
she dtd nct feel khat was the intent of whatever legislation they ar~ referrtng to. She
asked why we have not looked into hlghrise prr~~ects.
Mr. Firk poi~ted ~ut that staff had received no ~ecent inquiries regarding highrise
development.
Cortmissioner Barne, pointed aut the Plannir+g Commission had directed staff to lc~ok tnto
the issue and felt staff has looked into it and, because no one has come running in tn
build that type proJect~ diC not pursue it further.
Mr, Fick steted the Ptanning staff will be 1~ ~ktng at all those factors in a ve ry-
~nmprehensive~ detaited study through the Housing E~ement; thAt a stud~r ts p~esently being
pursued and we are in the p~acess of sec~ring consultant support to revise the Housing
Element in accordance wtth State gutdelines and the Housing Elenr_nt gutdeiines require
that we analyze all existing housing needs in the Clty and we a;e also re4uired by State
gu~delines to come up with a comprehensive program to alleviate housing probtems ~nd a
p~ogram to tnstttute wh~t the study findtngs ~re~ and indicated it v+t~s his feeling that
some housing problems and solutions may be not yet properly tdentified.
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R~PQRTS AND RtCOMMENDATIONS - ITEM F(continued)
Cortmlastonar Bushore pointcd out we only have iQ or 12 parcels that would be suitable fnr
mobile home perks and felt the Pianntng Commisslon should do something soo~ abouc the
highrise p~oJects.
Jay Tashiro~ Asaociate Plan~er~ pointed out staff (s loaklr~~ into the RM•4000 zoning
ordtnences and prepartng a st~cly as dir^cted by the Commission and hiqhrise proJects wtl)
be brought up at that t(me.
Lhairma~ Herbst pointed out hc felt low denstty and indus~rtal sl~ould be deiet~d from the
motiw~ at this time~ and Mr. Ftck Indtcated thet essenti~lly chey would be d~alettng
A1tRrnot(ve 4 because thet ts the mobile home altern~tivo tn tndustrial areas ln the
Scentc Corridor.
Cormiissioner Barnes polnted out Alternative 3 should read "low-medlum~ medfum and
commercial"~ end that llie flve-acre sites wauld be c,u~table.
ChatrmaR Herbst polnted out the. ftve-acrr. sites that ~re left mey not be conducive to
moblle home sltes.
Mr. Ftck pn(nted out the change may be signtficant on the S.A.V.I. ~~r~perty~ portlons of
the sauer Ranch~ and partlons of ocher ranchcs; that thcy do havc flflt pc~ttons on those
prope~ties which might be conducive or affected by thts change lf desired by the
davelopers.
Chairman Narbst asked if we are talking about deletiny mobile home pa~ks from the Scenic
Corrido~~ and Mr. Fick repli~ed they are presentty pr~nlbited only in the Industrtal area
and no oCher Code thanges would take place.
Mr. Fick sta'ad lhe w ay he understands the Commission's direct~on is th~t they are
amenable to Alternatives ! and 2~ adding comrnercial are~s to the Generel Plan text tn
Alternate 2 ar~d permitting mob(le home parks in commercial zones by conditinnal use permlt
(n Alternative 3, and Alternative 5 wo~ild be amended~ permitting mobile home park sizes of
f(ve acres; Alternattve 6 would amend the guldelines to permiC ntne lots per gress acre~
end Alternative 7 wvuld bc a general Commission statement encouragtng loa- and moderate
i ncame tt4usi ng,
ACTION: Commissioner Johnson ~ffered a motion, seconcied by Commissioner Bernes and MOTION
C ED, that the Anaheim City Planni~g Commisst~n does hereby recomrnend to the Clty
Council that Portton C~ Mobtle Home Subdivision portton of thc staff report~ be approved~
as follaws: Alter~axivc 1(that staff nxpand th~ p~essnt definition of residential
planned unit develupments to includc mobile har~e pa~k subdivtsions); Alternattve 2(that
the General Plan text be amended to also permit mobile home park development in ccwnmercia)
areas); Alternative ;(that the Codc be amended tu also permtt mobile home parks by
conditional use permit in low-medium and cortxr~ercial zones); that Alte~native 4 be deleted;
that Alte rnative 5(site development guidelines be amended ta permit mobtle homc park
develepment on fEve-acre sites); Alte rnative 6(that site development qutdelines be
amn~ded to per~niti mobile honx subdivtsions with nine l~ts per gross acre); and Alternative
7(that the Planning Commisslon go on record as encouragtng proJects which provide housing
for low and moderate income segments of the com~nunity).
Commtssioner Barnes indtcated she feit the Plen~i~g Commissfon should go on record a~s
encouragtng the same kind of alternatives into the building permit process section for
law-income housing of any :~?nd, ~cith particular empl~ASts on private ownership of the
property.
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I~EPOR_,_ TS ANC.RECpMN_NDAi IQNS -~'fCM F(continucd)
P. J. Sta~ ,~ A. 1l Hohn b Assoclates, mobilr home park developnrs~ stated they hsve been
worki,;; tn ~;h• development of mobi le home parks •nd F~ad recently 6vi lt one tn the Thousand
O~ks are4 e~d that city hdd deletad a lot of the permtt costs t~ them 1~ order to e~~ble
sento~ cill:ens to be eble to afford the rent.
Chai~m~n Herbst pointed out the eliminatton oF these fees would be the City Cauncll's
prerogattve.
Commtssioner Bushore ~sked whet those spaces In Thousar~d Oah~ rer-t for, and Mr. Starks
ra~lled b. •-roximately S150 per manth.
Chainnan Herbst asked Mr•. 5tarks if thie minimum let size of 200C square fee~ (s acceptabla
to the devalapers, anS t~~~. ~tarks r~N) tr~f i t wuulJ l,e ac,c;eptabir. end the proposod n(ne
units per acre would fit (nto thcir thin kinU.
Commfssioner Johnson steted he was anxious to assist in allowing the c~wncrs to buy rather
than rent the land.
~. ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 18
MULT~~IPL-E F-~MILY tONE`.'
Jay Tashtro~ Associate Planner~ presented the staff report. pointtng out the prr,posed
amsndments ba3ice~ly change the maximum density of 10.9 untts per acre to 14.y units per
acre ~nd the pArking requlr~ment from 2.5 to 3.5 spac~s per unit.
ACTION: Commissioner David offered a motion, seconded by Corm~issioner Kinq and MOTION
~D~ that the M aheim City Planning Commisston does hereby recommend to the City
Council approval of the ordinance amendtng Chapter 18.31~ Sectiona 1t3.31.061.0~2 and
18.31.066.~10~ Title 18 of the M aheim Munfcipal Cade~ RM-3000, Reside~tial~ Mulciple-
Family~ Zonc.
N. VARIAtJCE N0. 3071 ANO TENTATiVE MAP OF TRACT N0. 10~~76 - Reque~t for apr,roval of
rev se p ans.
The staff report to the Planning Commisston dated Februa ry 12~ 1979 was presented, noting
subJect property consists of appraximately 17 acres located near the intersectio~ of
Chapman Avenue and Harbor Boulevard and that Reclassffication No. 7$-79-26~ V~rtance No.
3071~ and Tentative 7~act No. 10476 to pe~mtt the constructlon cf a 218-unit condominium
subdtvision wes conditionally app roved by ~he Planning Commissfon on January 29~ 1979.
subJect to the condition that revised plans e~ submitted to relocate guest parking areas.
Jtm Aski~s~ authorized agent~ presented the revis~d plans to the Planning Commission which
reflect the parktng changes as suggested by Che Pla~ning Commission at the hearing of
January 29, 1975.
Mr. Gilmors, architect, explained the revised plans and pointed out the relocated parktng
spaces.
ACTION: Commissioner Johnson offered a mution~ seconded by Commissioner David and MOTION
CARRIED~ that the M aheim City Planning Commission cbes hereby epprove the revised plans
for Vartance No. 307i and Tentative Map of Tract No. 10476.
~ SEC~f~~18~31.~6lwQt2 AND 1f3.31.05G.U10 TITLE
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MINUTES. ANAM:IM CITY P UINNINC CONMISSION~ FEBRUAItY 1~~ ~9 79
AOJOUaNMEN7 Th~~e bsing no furthet eusiness~ Commissloner David offar~d • motton~
seconded by Commisstoner Tolar a~d MOTION CARRIED~ th~t th~ meeting :+e
adJourned.
Tha n~sting was adJournsd at S=S~ P•~+•
ito'peGtfully sub~nitted~
~,~.Ll%r~, ~ /'~`Q~'~ ~t~-e~
Edlth L. Ma~rts~ Secr~tary
A~aheim City Planntng Commisston
ELHthm
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