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Minutes-PC 1979/08/27, r .~ ~ City Hall Anaheim, California August 27, 1979 fiEGULAR MEETING OF TNE ANAHEIM C~TY PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR - The regular mceting of the Anaheim C)ty Pl~nning Commission was called MEETIN~ to order Dy Canxni~;sior~cr Hcrbst at ~:35 p.m., August 27, 1979~ in the Council Chamber, ~~ quorum beinq present. PRESENT - C~~mmissioner5: Qovid, Fry, Hrrbst, Kin~a ABSENT - Commissioners: B~rnes, 9ushnre, Tolar ALSO PRESENT - Jack White Jack JudA Paul Singer Annika Santalahti Dean She-'cr Edith Harris D~puty C i ty ~1tt~rney Civil Engineer Tr,~ffic Engineer Assistant Director fnr t~ning Zaniny Rr.presentativc Fl~~nning Commission Secre[ary PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANLE - The Pledge of Allec~iancr [o the Fl.~y was led by Corronissioner King. APPRnVAL OF - Commissioner Kinq offereci a rnot~on~ seconded by Commissiuner David ~nd MINUTE:S MOTION CARfiIEp ~('.ommi5sia~~ers Barn~s, 6ushore and Tolar bcing absent), ihat the minutes ~f the mectiny of A~gus[ 13. ~979. be approved as submitted. APPOINTMENT OF pCTING CHAIRMIIN Due to the absence of the Chairrt~t~ and Lhairman Pr~ Tempore, Comrrissiancr King offered a motion, seconded by Lommissioner David and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Barn~s, Bushore a~d Tolar beiny absent) that Comcnissionpr lierbst act as Chairman t~~r this meetinq. THEREUPON COMMISSIONER HERBST ASSUMED 7HE CHAIR, ITEM N0. 1 REPORTS AND RECOMMENOATIONS Acting Chai~n~an Herb~t explained the Rep~rts and Recammendation ite~ns are listed as Item No. 1 on the agenda and that those it~ms which need to be discussed will be heard at Che end of the public. hearing items, and furtlier explained that Item Na. B- Conditional Use Permit No. 1877. - would be discussed after the public hearings. The followi~g Report and Recommendations staff reports were presented but not read: A. ABANUONMENT N0. 78-22A - Request to abandon the city's road and public utility easement over a portian of La Jolla Street from Kraemer 8oulevard east to its pr~sent terminus. Commissione~ King declared a conflict of interest as defined by Anaheim City Planri~g Comnissia~ Resalution No. PC76-151 adopting a Conflict of Interest Code for the Planning Commission and Govcrnme~c Code Section 3525, et seq., in chat he ow-~s Pacific Lighting Lorporatton stock and Pacific lighiing Corporation owns Southern California Gas Company; and pursuant ta the pro- visions of the above Codes, declared to the Chairman that he was withdra~i~g 7g-604 8/27/79 '~ ~ MINUTES, ANAHEIM ClTY PLANNING COMMISSION, August 27, 1979 79-605 RfPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS (continuedl from ehe hearing in connection with qbandonment No, 7$-22A and would no[ take part in either the discussion ~r the voting thereon and had not discussed this matter with any member af the Planning Commission. It was noted an environmental review of the propos•~l I~dicates It tu be categorically excrnpt from the fil(ng of an envirunn~ental impact report, ACTION: Cortmisstoner David offered a rn~tion~ seconded by Commissioner Fry and MOTION CARRIED (Ccx~missioners ~farnes~ 9ushore and Tolar being absent, and CpmmisSlpner King i~bstaining) that the >>nahelm City Plenning Commission does htreby recamnend to the Ci ty Cwnci 1 that the reque st f~;r Abandonment No. 78-22A be approved as recomrr~nded by the City Enginecr. 8, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0, I$72 -(T~~s item w heard later in the meeting.j agos 79-~~il thru 644) , C, RECLASSIFIC!-TION N0~,1~-79-5 - Request for an extens(on of tlme by Oan(el A, Salceda, Anaheim Nills~ inc.~ for property consisting of approximately 83.8 acres on thc south side of Willowick L'rive. ACTION: Canmissioner King offered a motion~ secandeci by Cummissioner David and MOTION CaaRIED (Comnissioners ~arncs, 8ushare b Tol~~ being absent) that thc Anaheim City Planntng Corrmission does hereby grant a one-year extension of time far Reclassification No, 78-79-5, co c:xpire on August 28~ 19F30. D. CONDITfONAL USE PERMIT NQ, 1~56 - Request for an extension of timr. by Edmund C. Taffolla for permit to allow an office i~ an existing resicJence with waivers of minimum sideyard setback and required block wall at 862 South Har•bor Boulevard, ACTION: Comrnissioner King offerPd a motion~ s~conded by Cornmissioner Fry and MOTION CAaRIED (Commisstoners Bar~es, 6ushore and Tolar being absent) that the Anahe.icn City Planning Comnission does hereby grant a two-year retroacttve extension of time for Conditional Use Permit t~o. 1556, to expire on August 18, 1981. E. CONDITIONAL IISE PERMIT N0. 1558 - Request for retroactive extension of time by applicant~ Ray 5iegele for permit to allow metal reclomati~an and outdoor sto~age of rags and metal with waivers of minimum front setbac.k and minimum number of parking spaces at the southeast corner of Santa Ana Street and Atchison S[reet. ACTION: Commissioner D~vic: offered a motion~ seconded by Co~senissioner King and MOTION CARRIED (Commissia~ers Barnes, Bushore and Tolai bein~ absent) that consideration of Condicfo~al Use Permit No. ~558 be continued to the regularly scheduled meeting ~f Seplrmber 10, 1979 in order that the matter can be discussed aiith more members of the ~c~rt-mission present. F, GENERAL PLAN AlitNDMEW'~ N0. I$2 - Request For Genera~ Plan Amendme~t on two parc~ls consisting of approximately 51 acres on the north side of La Palma Avenue and east side of Imperial Highway io cated approximately 1025 feet east and 570 feet narth of the intersection of La Palma Avenu~ and Imperlal Highway. 8/27/79 ~i ~ k ~ p v MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, August 27, 1979 79-606 REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS (continued) ~TION: Cortmissioner King offered a motton, seconded by Cnmmisstoner David and MOTION CARRIED (Ccxrmiss(oners 9arnes, Bushure and Tolar being absent) that the Anaheim C(ty Flanning Commission considers S~ptember 10, 1979 an appropri.,le date for a publlc heartng for General Pla n Amendmcnt No. 152. CON7INUED ITEMS ITEM N0. 8 PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: COSMO VINCENT TApRMINA, EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION ARLENE TAORMINA, 512 East Vermont Avenue, Anaheim~ CA WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT 92805. AGENT: ANl1NEIM ELKS, 423 North Anaheim CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO.~ 2004 Bouleverd, Anaheim~ CA 92805. Pecitioner requests permission to ESTABLISH AN ELKS IODGE WITH WAIVER OF HINIMUM NUMBLR OF PARKING SPACES on property descr(bed as an irregulorly-shaped parcel of land cansisting of approxin~ately I.0 acre having a frontage of approxtmately 150 feet on the south side of Vermont Avenue~ having a maximum de~th of approximately 409 feet~ being IocaCed approximaxcly 350 feet west of the centerline of Harbor Bouleverd~ and further de~cribed as 526-528 Wesc Vermont Avenue. Property presently class~ffed RS-A-43,000(RESIUENTIA L/AGRICULTUR/>L) ZUNE. It was note~ staff has reque,ted that chis iten~ be continued far an additional [wo weeks~ to the regularly-schedul~d meetiny of Septembcr 10~ i979 in order to advertise additional waivers. ACTION: Comnissioner David offered a mo~ion, sPCOnded by Comnissioner King and MOTION GARRIED (Cortmissic~ncrs Bar~es, Bushore and 1'olar being absNnt) that considera- tion of the aforementfoned item be contlnued to the regulariy-schedule~! meeting of Sept~mber 10, 1979~ in order for staff to advrrtise additional waivers. 8/27/79 ?~ ~, y MINUTES. ANANEIM CITY PIANNING COMMISSION~ AUGUST 27~ 197g 19-607 ITCM t10. 2 CONTIIIUED PUBLIC HEARING. ON~IER: JAVID DEVGLOPMENT ~ R ~~~VF OECLARATION CORP.. 9~5~ Wtlshirc Bauleva~d, Bcverly I~ills~ CA VARIAf~ E Nb. ;099 9Q210. AGE'~T: STEVEti C. TNOMAS ~ 9858 WI lshl re Et q~E TRACT I~O. 1~694 l3oulevr~rd~ ~evcriy Nills~ CA ~~210. Property described a5 an i~regulArly-sheped parce) of land consisttng af epproximAtety 10.3 acres having e frontage of app roximetply ~+~i3 feet on the east sld~ of (3rookhur~~t Street~ hnving a maxln,u~ d~epth ot approximatcly 12h'L feet~ being lotated npproximat~~ly 4ii~'1 feet south of the .enterltne of Ball Road~ end further descrl5ed as 12S~ S~uth 9rcx~khurst Street. Property presently classified RM-1?~~ (RESIDC`~TIAL~ MULTIPLE-FAMILY) ZONE. VARIANCf. REQUEST: WAIVER OF (A) MINIMUM BUI~OING SITE. AREA ('ER aWLLLII+G UtJIT~ (0) MAXIMUN DUILUII~f, IiEIGItT~ (C) MAXIMUN SITE COVEMGE~ (D) MI~IIMUM U-~IT ~LOnR AREA~ (E) MINIMUM SETHACK ApUTTINf; SINGI.E-FAMiIY RESIpE:NTI~L U~VCL~PMEr~TS~ (F) MI~aIMUM R(CREATIQNAL/I.EISURC ARfAS~ (G) MINIt1UN, UISTA~ICE: BETI~lEE~i BUILOIFIC,S~ (II) (~UILUIilGS FACING AaTtal I1L H I G11NAY5 ~(1 ) MI N I NUM ~~UME3ER 11ND TYPE OF PARK I NG SPACES ~ l+FID (J} MINIMUM DISTl1~dCE TO PARY,I`~G SPACES. TEIJTATIVE TR/1CT RE!ZUFST: TO COI~VEP,T !1N EXISTING APARTMF.NT C~MPLEX TO h 2f1~-U!~IT CONDOMI~iIUM SUIiDIVISIAN. Subjeet petitl~n was continued from the incetiri~~s of Nt~y 21~ June: tf;, and July 3~, 1979~ at [he ~equcst of the petttioner. There were approximately three pc~opVe present, on~ indicatin9 opposition to the subject request and although the staff report to the Planning C~~~}Knission dated Auc~ust 27, ~979 was not rcad at the public. hearing, it is referred ta and Rx~de a part of the minutes. Robert D. Mickelson, 3823 E. Casselle Avenue, Oranye~ CA 92669, explained they had sub- mitted a letter requestiny th;~t thc City's Co~miunity Uevelopment Department staff be aliowed to explain the details of a proposed aqreement to insure the affordability of these uni~s, explaining additir~nal time is ~equired to enable them to provide for indlv(dua) interviews t~etween tfie tenanCs and the Community Development Depertmen[ staff and to readver[ise [he variance for 228 units rather than 208 which was an Qversight on their y~art. He stated they have worked with the staff of the Houstr.g Authority and their program is really tied into that department's goals and the pragrams they offer. He ex-- plained their proposa) will be quite different frorn the original submi[tal because they h~~d trled to make the units ccxnp~y wtth the current ::onclominium standards which wa5 physir_ally impossible and are now pl~,c y the emphasis on providtng truly affordable housing for the people whu are livlny there in both the "owr~ your• own" c.lassification or the rentol classification. He referred to the proposed agreement included in the Commission's packet between the developers and the Communi[y Development Department/ Housing a~d Neighborhood Preservation Division and indicated two members of that depart- ment are p~esent to answer questions. He stated they truly believe they have an opaortunity to provide not only affor•dable housing, but perhaps even reduce the cost of housing to saR-e of the occupants unc~e r th i s p I an. Phil Gardner~ Neighborhood Development Co~rdinator, stated there are certai~i things their department is ~eoking for in a situation before they could actually s~y they could enter intq negotietions or an agreement or make a reconmendation; that they are still reviewing input from the tenants; that most of the information they have gotten from a survey form which they had sent out was negative; however, the infarmation gotten from sorr~c one•on•one counseling was favorable. He explained their department needs more time for additional interviews with the tenants. He stated they are looking for more affordable housing stock in the city and the deveioper has indicated a price tn the tow 540,000's~ and falt they need more time to carmunicate the proposal io the tenents and get their feedback•~ 8/27/19 ~, MINUTES, ANANEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ AUGU5T 2J, 1979 7~-608 EIR NEGATIVE_ DECLARATIONJ VARIANCE N0. 309~~ TENTATIVE MAP OF TRACT N0. 1069~+ (continued) Mr. Mickelson explained they wr,uid like to request that. thi~; pc:t~tic~n bc withdr.iwn aftcr the CommiSSion has had the oppc~r~unity co hcar thc~5e intrr~stcAd in ~pe,ikiny, explaining ~ new pc~t i t ion wi I 1 bc submi t ted and the m:~! tcr rc~~dveri i Srd; Ihereby avoiding further continu~~nc~ti ~nd dclay~:. Harriet Haxelton stated she has been ,~ resident ~~t Nro~kh~urst Villaqc for nine ycars and this i~ the fnurth time she ha~, taken off w~,rk to ~~ttcnd thcsr_ hearinq~; that she had hcard there is sc~me disrus5ic~n rcqardiny tic~i itting the~ cc~mplex to provide affordable housing ,and thr. rc has bcen r urtx~rs c~f assi titancc for thc tenants, whcrc~by. thcy would only havr_ to pay S10U, with the City ~~iyinc~ the hnlance and she did not think th~t wcauld be passible; and tha[ if pt~~ns can be presented to nKike somethinc~ like this pos~'ble, it ~uld be great, but that four differen; timcs they havc sto~~d bef~re the Cortunission an,1 now [he develc~per is indicatinq th~y can live therc for 5100 and [here will not be anymo~e rent increases. Shr. stated 5hc would like to see the proposal in writinq ta show what part of the complex would be conside:red affordible housinq and what part would be condominiums, etc. and indicated she did not feel dividinq the complex into four seyments with walls separating them wc.~uld be a goc~d plan and did not think it should be allowed. Acting Chairman rlerbsc explain~d the peti[ioner has requested this rr~[t:cr be withdrawn and [hat new plans wil) be presen[ed and the rnatter rcadv~rrtised and the cenant.s re-notifie.d. Ne s[ated he felt it 5ounds like they h:ive a plan that is worthwhile ta discuss, Marily~ P~rker, tenant, st~ted the way thc propo~;al was explained tu her~ it sounds like a good plan and it sc~unds affordable ;o hcr and she felt if the other tenants will discuss Lhe proposal, they wil) aqree. She indicated imp rovements t<~ the unit~ were also discussed and fel[ if they are bein~~ truthful, this will be a qood thinq. Acting Ch~~irman Herbst stated the plans will bc before the Conrni5510n again and the City will h.~ve an ~pportunity to explor-e the eFfects. ACTION: Cenx~iissioner Kiny offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner David and MOTION CARRlED (Commissioners BarneS, Bushore ~nd Tol~r being absent) that the Anahei~r City Planniny Commission does hereby ~rant the petitioner~ reques[to terminate proceedings in connectian with Variance No. 3099 and Tentative Map ~f Tract No. t0694. Mr. Mickelson indicat ed they are projec[ing a six-week timz limit for presenting the new proposal and the Housing staff needs that time to conduct iniividual interviews with the tenants. 8/27/79 'rf,_ MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLNINING CQMMISSIpN~ AUGUST 27~ 137`~ ~9'609 ITEM N0. 3 PUOLIC IIEARING. ONNF.R; TF.Y,ACO-Al~AHEIM HIlLS~ ~NH~TAL IMPACT REf'ORT N0. 227 ~r~C.~ 38~ An~heim Hilis RoAd~ Anahetm~ CA 92H(`7. RECL Sl ICA710t1 N0. 9- 0- Proptrty ~lescribed As an trrec~ul~~rly-shapeA pArcel CN N ~1 N0. ~]$1~ of lond conslsting of apprnxtmately 14.9 acres `~"-- '~-' ~" h~v(ny a frontaye of approximetely 3~~ fe~t on the nc,rth slck of Canyo~ Rim Rood~ having a max(mum depth of approxin-atety 1135 feet~ ar.J bein<~ l~cateci ~nprnximAtety GO~J fret west ~f the centcrl(ne of Se~ranv Avenue. P~operty presently classifted R~-11-43~~3'10(SC) (RCSIDE~ITIAL/l~GP,IGUL7'JRI1L-SCE~dfC GORRIDOR OVERLAY) :OIrE. RF.f~UESTCD CLASSIFICA?ION: RH-30Q0(SC) (REaIaCNTIl1L~ MULTIi'Ll-FANILY-SCENIC CO~RIDOR OVERL~,Y) Ipt~E. TEtITATIVE TMGT RE:Qu~ST: t~-LOT~ 1G-uNIT~ R-~-~~~~(5C) CON~~MI-~IUM SURDIVISION. There were seven persons indtcating their presence in opposltion to subject r~quest and although the staff report to thc Ptanninc~ Ccxnmiss(on dacrd Auqust 27, ~979 w~s not read at the publiG hearinq, it is referred to and made a part of thc rninutes, Don Salceda~ Anaheim Hills, ~nc., st~~ted he had ~een contacted ry the Pla~ning Depar[ment staff this morning informing him that c1u~ to th~ absence of three Commissioners fAr today'; meeting~ the Coinnission woul~ like for them to request a cuntinuance so [he matter cauld be heard before a full Commissi~n and indicat.ed they are willing [o cornply with that request. Acting Chairman Herbsc explained to thuse persons present in opposition that the Commission had felt since this w~~s such an important issue which would affert the entire area, they would like [o have all Cc~mmissioners present. Carol ftichens~ stated sh~ lives in Stanegate on Canyon Rim Road and represen[s the Anaheim Hills resident, and explained they I,ad only found out about this hearing on Sund~y afternoon and feel something is wrony s,nce no one was notifieci; tF~at they circulated petitions and have signatures of over 100 peoplc and almc~st 100`1 of those people contacted were not informed af this request and werc tot:liy opposed to thr request, She statPd they d~ not want this development and when they tia~i bouqht lnto thc .~ea~ they werc info rniecl that this area wou0d remain green bsl[. She stat~d they want to ~now why Anaheim Niils~ Inc. is no: concerned for their ~vell being since they had purchased thcir homes from Anaheim Hilis, Inc, Acting Chairman Herbst stated granti~y a tHro-week continuance rrould give the opposition more time co make their prese~tation. Ms. Richens aslced if the meeting cauld be scheduled for the ever,ing so more people could attQnd and Actina Chairman Herbst stateo he would not w~nt to schedule an evening meeting without the full Corm~ission agreeing and exp~ained this item would bp placed ac the beginning of the meeting and would be heard shortly after 1:30 on September 10~ ~979. He explained evening meetfngs are nor•mally only schedule~i when the agenda is extfa {ang, but that evening meetings do caus~ addit(onal expense co the City since other things are in~olved. ACTION; Comnissioner David offered a motion~ seconded by C~ missioner King and MOTION CARRIEO (Comnissiorsers Barnes, Bushore and Tolar being absent) tr~at consid~ration of the aforementtoned icems be continued to the regulariy-scheduled meeting of September 40, 1979~ as requested by the Planning Commission, with th~ c~ncurrenc~ af the petitioner. Due to the nurnber of persons present concerning Item No. 12~ it was the general c~nsensus of the Commission that t~at item should be heard at this time. 8/27/79 A- ~ MINUTFS, /1NAHEIM C~TY PLANNING COMNISS (011~ 11UGUST 27~ 1~7'i 79-610 ITG`1 ~~0. 12 PUDLIC 11El1R1!~G. OWP~Ett; PACIFIC TERR4CE APl1RTNf.~ITS~ .~tl Nlf IVE DECLA!tl1710~~ 13Q1-F Parkcourt Pl~cc, Suitc 102~ Santa l1ne~ CA ~bNU ~NA' U.E ERh~11T-k0. 2u1~ g27~1, AGE,IT; DOYCE D. JONF.S, 1R~1-F Parkcourt 4fAIVER OF fOUNCI~ PO! ICY NO_ 5 2 Place~ Sultr. 1r1~~ Santa M~a~ CA 9.7Q1, petitio~er ~~ rc~, ~c~ ts pcrm) ss lon to EST~OL 1511 ~'~ MO(31 LEIlOME PlIRK SUQpIVIS10N on propcrt~~ dcseribecl as An Irreciularly-shapr_d p.~rccl ef lan~l eonsisttn~~ of epprexim~tely 3E~ Acres lueate~f +~t the nor[heast cornar of La Pelma Avenue an~f Chrisdr,n Strect, h,ving aE~proxir,~te fronta~~~~s of i~i04 Feet c~n chc nnrth slde ~~f Ln Pal~n~~ Avcnue and 71(1 fect on th~ cast sldc of Chrisden Street~ and further desc~lbcri .is ~61~ Cast LA Palma Avanuc. Pr~perty presently c1~s51fle~i RS-A-~~;5,~!~i)(SC) (RC51 DENTI~IL/AGaICULTURAL-SCCNIC CORR1 J~R 0'~F:RL;~Y) ZO,~~. There were approxin~tely ~~0-50 intcrested persons present and althnuqh th~e staff report to the Planning ~cxm~ission d~~ted August 17, 1y79 w~~, not r!,~' at thr public h~arlny, it is referred ta and m~-~de s~ p~irt of the minutes. Boyce Jones~ agent, presc'ntr~d a Nlot p l.in of th~ project as i t exi Sls today, painting out the exlsting pac!s. green DC1 L are,,s anci parking .ireas. N~~ sZated they had talked to the Assoclation Bo.~rd meeting of lhe coa~h owners ind h~~viny reccfved their approv~l and support, helci a meetin~ on Auyust 5 for al I coach owr~ers and approximately 3G0 attended and thos. ~iho tould ~ot ~~ttend were Inviteci tu send writ[cn coimwnic~~tion. ~e~ stated the general oplrtion of that ~~et ing wa5 that the ide.~ i~• sound and Lhey were in favor if the cost determined is favor~-~bl~. He Stated thcrc are sart~c voids which hav~~ to be explaine~'; lhat khc first step is approval by lhc Citv for subdivi~;ion;that chc. park was built S~ 1910 with prEvate streEts and uneier thF subdivislon requir~mer;ts, all coaches must face a Nuhlic stre~t and a variance would be required and thr:y are prepared to a~ply for that v<~r3ance; that the second conccrn related to the reouirc:ment 1n the staff report that a orivate street lighting plan must be approved. Nc st<-ted~unfortur~3tely~Ch~it issue was never raised (n any of the meet ings hc ha s had w(th thc C i ty st~f f s i nce late ~lune . Nc stated thP park. was bui lt wi thput a I ight inq system an,~ w4,~•n thcy bc~:anx~ involved in the park ChP f i rst a~ 't;is year and had their f irst nreticig with the Bo~rd, they had listene~ to th ir desires an~ it w~~s their plan to bri nc~ thr park up to a Irvcl that i~ compatible wiYh their qpal, and des(res; and that one of the matter5 uf conce~n was the f,ict the Iighting wac inadeyua~e; that there arK I~0 1 iyht po 1 es throue~hou[ the park (4" pipe, apprc~ximafe Iy 5 feet in he ight ~ t~pped with a round 12" giob.e) an~.1 thcy agreed that 5ort~ething more desirable should be i.~stal l-sd; and that the c~ri q inal 1(nht ing system kas a[toched ;. tt~e c.oach ~wner's pedestals and, therefore~ all the coacfi c~w~ierswere p~ying fer t:~e electri:~ty and the Association had referrr.G [f~~t rt:atter tc them and thr.y had inv~silqated the mact~r ar,d fcx~nd out each one castr: approximat~~ ly 60c per mo;ith and they have agreed to relmbu.-~e the owners on a quarterly hasis for th~e ~lectricityused. Mr. Janes stated they havi determined ~ t~vould be very expensive to iry and instal l a master llghting 5+~5L2m n~w and ar~ irwes;igat ing the possibi l ities of sndiun} type 1(ghts thro~ghout t.he park e~ thc cr,rners and :;ey t~~affica'cas and ~+re trying two such lights on ar~ experi- mcntal basls ~~~ are sat ~,F ieri with one of them, Ne exDl3ined these 1 tghts cover an area of approx ~mate ly 60 feet and they pl~n to i n~ta I 1 approx imate ly 40; that i t wou id st i! I be a private lighting system and ~t wi I l be up to the Commission to determine whether that wi 11 be accepiable; that thr Ilssociatic~n has Found they ~~an make i t work and c.an relmburse each coacF- owner for their costs. He stated the thirci concern was thewail in the rear and the staff rEport shows that a sound study we~s made of that area wf~ere there 's a ma i n ra i 1 rnad 1 i ne Incated rfi i ch i s used primari ly ir~ the eveniny and the sou~d is heavy; that che report recortimends a wal 1 of not less tt~en 9.8 fcei and they have a flgure of 5120,000 for a 10~ foot wal 1 an~j ~re prepared to have it insta!led. 8~a7~;9 M I NUTES , ANAHE IM C 1 TY PLANN I NG COMM I 55 I ON ~ AUGUST 27 , 1979 79• 61 1 E I R NEGAT I VE DECIARAT I ON, COND I T I ONAL USE PERM I T N0. 2014 ( con t i nued) Hc stated they had a n~eeting with representatives from the railrond and they did llsten to tho co~,iplaints and he felt the flrst step was made in ~~ecting the railr~ad to recognlze they are at least a part of the problem ~nd chere is a possibl l ity they may share ~~~ the cost of the wall, or at least give an easement so the founciat(on for the wall can be cqnstructed. Mr, Jones stated there are several things that must be established befare th~y can ~resent the flnal figur~s for financinr, and cost of the lots. He explained one factor is the cond i tions whfch wi 1 I be nlaced on them by the City which would include the wal l, 5l r~~rt lights, etG. and those conditions wil) be a part ofe5t.ab1 i5hin<a the price ~~f the lots. He explafned they have been working with thc C(ty's Nousing Department and thcy are workinq on a survey co de[ermine what can be done to hclp the c~ach owners own their own luts; th3t they~ as develoners, have bee~ talking to the Bank ot Amcrica in Anaheim and It turns ~~ut they are vr,ry familiar with this type of financing since they havc done it in Palm .ipri~~~s and Hemet where they fin~nce the land ~is real pr~~perty and the caach ~s persona) property. He statF~d the b,7nk h.is indic,~tc~ they wc~uld ~OS~itbly ronsider a 25-year loan. He explained the final step ~vill bc fin~i approval b•~ thc Assoclation whi~.l~ will take approximntely 12 months, and then the ent i re plan wi I I be pr~~tien[ed ta a) 1 ihe c~ach owners which ~•~fll show the CO5~5, flnancing an~ plan5 for ~ssis:anc.~_, He s tated they ant i c i pat~~ there ~~1 1 1 be some coach owners whc,, f~~+ the i r own persona) reason, either cannot or do not wi5h to buy their land; theretore in otd~r r~, assist them, they are prepared to hold thos~ I~ts in a seprir.~te c~rporation and the conch owners may remain on ~tia[ lo[ a5 a rent-{,aying tenant fc,r JS lonq a~ they wish, under the condition that when they rrove and sell the coach. the new t~uyrr must purcha~e the iand. He stated the Nousing Depar~rr~nt is tryinq ta work out a plan tc~ r~eip thosc who would I ik~ to buy the lot. bul tannot af for~! i t. Act i ng Chai rman Ne r•b~t. statpd thi5 ~ s thc f i rst proposal far owning your own mobi le hort~ lot Lhe Coirmi~,~on h3s hearA; t:h~t the Council has recently stated they w~uld consider approvi ng ~,~~~~~:t'~In ~ s iml lar~ but he fel t they had ncw p.irlc5 in m'. ' and thi s is the f i r5t pr~~ased r_onver5lon of an ~xisting park and there ~re ~ lot of prr,bl~m~, involved. Mrs. Wright, hcad of thc Hor-~eow~erti Associat ion at ~'riendly Vi l 1age, stated most ~f ~he qucs tions the co~r_h owners have rP late to tMe price of the lot ~nd i t appears i t wi l t be a lang time befc~re those answers are avai lable: that rm~[ of r.hc feedbatk is the uncertain• ~~ and ru~x'~rs and not knowing what is goiny to haF~pen; that, hc,pc ful !y, the coach owners wi 1 i lovk at this as a tantastic opportunity; that people in rrr~bi I, ~,on~e pa~ks in California are c~ ~tinuously having their rents increas~d a~d the parks ar~~ being sold for condominium Aeve ,prnents. etc; chat there are senior ci[iiens in these pa~ks who have wr~rked all the i r 1 i ves ta be abl e to h~~v~ a home they can af ford on the i r f i xed i nc~~mes ~,nd they are being priced right out uf them; that naturally somethin~~ of this rnaynitude with the unce.-tainty really scares people. She stated she hoped all own~rs wi I1 just sit tight and cont inue ta grt~•~ with thc K~len and even i f it gets to the ppint where they st i 11 are friyhteneclor fee) they just cannut yet into the situation~ they will have the oFpo~tunity tn sel 1 thelr mobil~ home or be 3ble tc~ go somewhere rlsr, and ;he felt in the future their i nvestme~ts wi 1 I ~~ more a~~d sorr-one want ing to buy thei r lot and coach wi I 1 know the (nvestment is Sceure and it wi 1I be an asset. Luci 31P Jonnson, s.a~ed she is resident at Friendly Village a~d indicate,r. shc is very r~ervous; that she maved into the park the end of Auriland .just as soon as she had pai wNr first month'S space rent was i~iforneed tha[ thP rent wc~uld be increased 529.00 a nonth starting i~ July and it was indicated there would b~~ a lot of ~mprovements made in the pa~k far ai 1 the res idents' benefi t; that she had just moved there and had no chaice aiz~~~9 ~ MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COM~ISSION, AUGUST 27, 1979 79-612 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 241•' (continued) nnd acc~pted the increase; that she is 63 years old and h~d sold her home to move into the Friendly Village Park for securit.y, but d~es h~ve a limited income and she is scared, that Mr,, Wrighl had said if the residents dor~'t like the situatian, they cauld move and stated no one knows what the land will cost and ~,lie is sure many ~esidents in the park I(ve on a fixed income .ind asked where they cauld move. She statCd she did nat see ',~w they could be asked to approve somethi~q when they do not know wh at the expr..nse wi' ,e, She staf.ed she love5 the park ~~nd had n~vtd thr~rc ~'tssuminq her expenses would be a c~~rtain amount . Mrs. Wright ~tated shc~ did no~ bel ieve sh~ had inferred and had not intended to ;nfer that if the residents did not likc the ~,ituation they could rrr~ve. but wanted to say that their investments are yc>ing to be higher tl~,in they are riqht now and the owners can make a c.hoice of stayiny and buyinq the lot or staying and rentin y, but they will be more informed and can n-ake ~ decision nut based on pan~c t~nd friq ht, Shc :tated they did have a 519.00 a mnnth rental increase, but also had the opti .n of taking a one or two year lease which guarant~ed nothing rrx~re than a cost of livin g increase so they aa know what the rents will b~• for the next two yc~~rs. 5he stated. however, the cost of living could he t~rntLndouS, and if this plan is approved pos~,ibly the costs could be a little Iess ~nd the nricr is set and there will n~t be any more incrcases. Mary Burton stated she is ~t th~ opposite end of the spectrum~ jc:st s[artinq out with a family on a fixed income raising two childr~n on her c~wri; that shc moved in, figured out a budge[ and the bills were F.igher tha~ anficipated, but she learned to ad;ust and re~~) Ized that space rents h~ ve to increase, juSt I ike rents wc~uld increase ~n an apartment or condc~minium, if she could live rhere with childr~n. She (elt t his woutd be the hest thing th~t cou1~1 happen t~ her, even th~~ugii ch,~ pricr. is not kn<,wn. She stated being a property owner takes a per~,un from a sec_c.~nd cl,~ss citir.en riqht up even with everyone else in California who owns property. She felt thi~, wili b~-• the way ror youny people to qet started becausc thcy arc beiny prir.ed riqht o~~t ~~f ~~ny nthcr type of housing~ an6 that oiher ~laces will not take fimilies with children. Ms. Grabow stated sh~ h.~, been a resid~nt of Fr~end!y Villoqe for 1•1/2 years and has been trying to sell their rn~,bile home for 4 months and can't sell to `arnilies with children a~d th~y have had ,c-vera~ buyers who would Luy if ch,ldr~n were allowed, buC as of Nov~mh-~r children are ~,ot allowed. She asked how this proposal will affect sell~ng thc~r mobile home. Mr. Jones stated the previous owner converted the park to an adult park last summer, although it has bcen a semi-~dult and family park since its incep Lior~ aith approximately 1/3 being designated for adults only .~~~d 2/3 fnr families with children; that when they b~cam~: invotved in Auqust of last ye,~r, it was on the oasis of ihi, being an ~dult park; that the reasons are obviously economic, as tl,e ASSC~c~ation has ~ound out; that t:hey met with tne Association ~r;d ~old them [hFy were not ,~damanL at~ ut ih e park being adul; anly, as long as the adul!s will control [heir own children. He eKplain ed their budget changed drastically because of the maintenance Cn5t5 r_aused b~ vandalism a nd che costs were triple what they Fad programmed for this par!c. NP StatEd a lot of de~tructir:,r is caused by y~~ng people hetween ;h~ ages of 13 and 7_~: that the P~ssociation h as responded tc the problem with ~'~;eighbonc~wd ;~atch programs", etc. and in four months they have had a drop of approx?mately 5~~ in the maintenar,ce costs: that in February, befor~ they had entertained thoughts of the cnnversian, they h~d indicated they would be willing to reconsider the plan for an adul[ ~ark if the ad~,lts of the ~ark wc;c~ld take th~ ~ESppnSibility for themselves and the children; and that th~ review of the past six months was quite favarable and it is possihle to run a family park and make ii work as a co:rmunity with everybody tiving togethcr. He stated if all the coach owncrs vot~ for the s uhdivision, it w?11 8/27/79 e MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLAlrNING GOMMISSION~ AUGUST 27, t979 79-613 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION~ CONDITIONAI_ USE PEaMIT N0. 2014 (continued) be their choice wheth~r the park wiil be a family perk. He stated they c~,uld teach the Association that would lollow them how to run thc park in an ~c~nomic rik~nner if it Is the(r intent that ihe p~rk be a c~mbination adult/f~mity park. He ex~>I,~inr.d there is a~~ending lawsult against the ~~revious owner~ but according to Calif~,rnia state law, it takes 12 months to put the park on notice and convert it back; that the Atisociat.ion a[ torney h~s a f~rn; wh i ch wl I I bc ma i 1 rd to al I c<~ach owncrs <ind i f thcy wi 1 I s i gn that pct i t ion~ the matter ~.in be rPSC~lved i n about two months. He stated i f they were to ;ell anyone trying to Srl l their c,~~.~~_h currently they coulA ~ei) ta a family with children, they could bc immedi~tc!y •,u~~~1 by sor~anc who ~~urch~ise~1 in the p.~rk in the last 6 months ,n the hasis of it beinyanadult park. He st~~ted if thc pa~k's Associ~tion approves what is being proposed and cach nwner will approve thc~ concept and those who have ~~urchased in the last six manths alsc~ siyn the petiti~n, they can mc~ve~ fc~rward, othFrwise, they wi I I havc~ tc~ yo throuyh the legal ste~s which wi 1 I take 12 months. Mrs. M~~rtin stated hcr husband is ret i ring in 1•1/2 year5 and they h,id ~ld .i larye home in Huntington Beac.h to qet ~~way from property taxes ~~nd b~~a yards and also in ~rder to havc~ a place. to relax and be able to yo camping and le±avc thei r hnme and h~ve i t watched wfii le they are away and not have [o worry about i t ~eir~, torn up by chi ldren; and now they are back whe~F they si~rted wi th smal I chi Idre~n. She inditated 5he would I ike ~o see the park rcn-a i n the way i i is today. Act ing Chai rman Nerbst exp I,~ined those are prohlems which wi 11 have ir~ br resalvPd between the c~wncrs and the Assoc i~3 t ion. Dixie Wi ld stated shz woul d 1 ik~ to be ~~b1r to buy ~~er loi, but wcmdered i f shN would be afforded the opportunity becausr_ of hrr age and ,;~t,ecf if there wc~uld be an age limit Ralph S~nith stated he hc~s becn livinq in Frihndly V~Il~~qe~ Since 1971 .tind th;~t every ~vrner has talked with a"forked tonque"; that thc owner5 have ~~II bec~n informed of whai is neee.ed ta make this a good substantial p~rk 1 ike the rest of the parks in Anaht:im, but those things have never been provided; that he has w~tched the teen~~gcrs qrow and they havc no place to r,~~ because there is only u~~e recreational area in thr F~ark and that is where they have m~ngled and it wa5 So had tfne adults were chased away from the recreational facility; that h,• is on a fixed incofne and cannot aff~rd to qive up everything he has worked fOf jfl ~~j~ fE'11fPfTr.•f1L ~1f1(~ IS SUr(` ~t1E`I'C ,l~p many in ~fl(± n,~rk Ifl (ht~ Sd~~iP Si(UF]~IOtI. Nc~ as~:ti~d the penplc~ of the park to get behir~i whatever is done and make surc the ownPrs I ive up tc~ exactly what thFy ,~y they wi 11 do. Joe Chambers, Manager of Anderson Mc,b i 1 e Nomes, stated a lot of nabi !e home owners have been lookiny f'or the opportunity to own thei r~wn property and po;nted aut i f the qwners owned the lot they could qet away from the rr~nagers with th~c forked t~ngues, the rent increases~ etc. Mrs. Martin commended Mr. Jones on che fact that thec•e ha~ been an impr~,vement in the vandalism problems. She stated shc is not opposed to the prap~sal, but i~ afraid cf the costs. Mrs. Wright staced she has been in the park almosc as long as Mr. Smith and has been [here tf~rough severa~ owner~s and Mr. Smith is right in that as lc,ng as the awners yNt the rent every mo~[h they ean pr~mise a~~yching, that the AssociatiAn had a lot of things they wanted carrected and t,ad talkea to Mr. Jones and he has been responsive to their requests; th~t there have been a lot of ~mprovemencs; ar~d thai a lot of the reason for the var,dal ism is that nobody wanted to enforce the rule~s. She stated there has been 8/27/,9 d ,R Q. MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AUGUST 27, 1y79 79-bt4 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 2Q14 (continued) a complete turn-around becau<<~ tlie people in the park decided they did nut want to live like that and lhey n~w have a very stroriy homeowner's association, THE PUBIIC HEARING WAS CLOSED. Acting Chairman Nerbst stated he was not sure what the Cormiission should do at this time because the final answers will not be a~ailable for another ye.ir; that he is co~cerneA about the pe!ople livinq there and B~SA auvut the pr,ce ~~f the lots ar.d ,~hcther or not the people wil) be priced riqht out of th~in c~~mes; and a5ked what guarantee they would have that the rent5 will not be ra;sed to price them out i6 th~y deGide. to r~nt inste~d of buy since the proposal was ~'~de that th~~y cc~uld remain as Ic~nq os they wish~d as r~nt paying tenants. Ne st.ited he knows from experlence that it is virtually impossible to move an older mobile hortx~ into ~~noth~•r park. Ne Fclt it would behc,c~ve the pctitioner to cOme up with ~i figure,poir~tiny out he d~rs know the number of 1~t5 and does have some fig~res on meFtiny Cit~ ~de~; th~t he~as ,~ne Commissioner~ has no problem witt~ +h;, 1 ~qhts and streets since ~rivate strects are in ~Il mobile home parks and condominium developments. Ne felt this new c~~nc;ept of owning your own lot i5 qcx>d and the co.~ch owners are very interestc.t, but waiting a ycar to find out thc c~st cause5 a lut of w~rranted concern and he felt the petitione~ should be able to qive them an idca of the costs within a certain range. He stated he wc,uld not w~~nt to vote on ~~ plan like this if it will create a situation where half the~~e people woulA havc to rcloc~ite. Mr. Jones ~,t.ited there wi I i be th<>SC owners wtto, by c_hoic:e or in~bi I i ty, wi 1 I not he able t.o afford th~ ~o[s, regarQless of thc pricc. He stated it rnay not take a year to givc the answers, .:~t it tr3kes a full year if they h~vc ta qc~ th rouqh all [he legal steps, and if they can get thr. ~pprov~~) c~f all the coach owners by petition, they can sh~rten that time. NP sta[ed they are nn recor~' th~~t any c~ h c;wner who does not wan[ to buy the lot o~ cannot offord the lot, may remain as a rer~t payiny coa;t~ owner und~ r the <:urrent laws whith rr~ans the incrr•asc in che future is basNd on the cust of liviny. He ~;tated there has been conc~rn that a s~eculator will buy the lot anA raise the rent and indicated the toar_t~ ownPrs will have the fir5t righr o.' refusal and tney will keep the balance of the lots in thE se~~oratF~ corporatiqn until thev are r:ady to make a mc~ve antl that they will r.o[ be forted out. A gentl~men in the audience a5ked Mr. Jones to answer the Chairrnan's question as to the price ranyc and asked if he would s~y [he range is irom $20~000 tr., $50,000 or whac it will be and Mr. Jores replicd he could say the range would be S?O,OOA to 550~000 ~nd felt that would be a fair figure, b~;t that it didn't mean ~ thing to him, but he could go nn record that the range will be $20,000 to $SO~OQO, if that is what the gentler-yn wanted. Acting Chairman Herbst st~ted che Commission has a nroject to voce on, but it will be ve -•- hard for hirr~ to vote t+ecau~e he doesn't know some of the facts relating to what i~ ~11 cost the people ~iving there anC hc felt that is a key issue and one tt t the pet~tiuner should be ~repared to answer or he wnuld rer.ooxnend a continuance until the ,~nswers are aYa~lable. Mr. Jones stated until he has tentarive apprQVal of the Commission which will tell him what he must do~ he cannot give a figure. Ne explained th~y have agreed to construct the wall but ht needs to knrnv what the o~`~er conditions are going to be on approval. Acting Chairman Herbst star~d the Interdepar:rr~ental Cortmittee Recorm~endat~ons listed in the staff rep~rt are clear and show what the city expects and based on those conditions felt the background is p~rvi:ied for the necessary caltulations. He stated he would like to know how many of the coach owners agree with thc policy anci whether or not they can ai2~i~9 , MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PL NG COMMISSION, AUGUST 27, ~979 1~-615 EIR NEGA7IVE DECLARATION, CONDITIONAL USE FcRMIf NO ?.014 (con~inued) afford the lots. He stated there is e si ilar p roblem with ~~ condomini~m conversion which had been nropnsed and when the fi~al figures were prescnted, it wa~ determined that ab~~ut 15~ of the neople livinq there wouid have to move and he felt thi5 is a similar situ.~tion ~nd these are the questions tF~e peoplc~ deserve t~ h~ve ~nswered bef~re the project is voted on.He statcd he fcit thc ~trcet liqht situation can be worked out with the Engineering Department and asked staff what type lighting is reyuired whcn a new mobilc home park is developed. Annika Santalahti, Asst. Planning D~-ector fcr Zoning, ~,tated the strects are not rea~ly arivate str~Fts in th,• ~ther irx~bi le home park~~ ar~d tl~c reason for tF~r. condi tion on thi~ petiti~n i,, :hat this will be a tract map and Cc,nani5~i~~n may wi5h to accept the existiny situation. Shc ~,tatcrd thetie scre~t~, werc not develo,;ed ~~s ~rivate strcet~, and do not R-eet the standar:t Jimensinns. She stated the lots would bP owned by thr toach owners and ;he Homeowner's AS~ocia~ion wc~uld be responsible for the n~intenance of the ~treets and lights .3nd if the Conx~ission ~celS the existinq facilitirs arc r~dequatc, thc~re is no problern. Acting Chairman Hern.t st~itr_d this is a new concept ,;nd these street: .~re existing and he did not see why th~rc• ha5 tu be a subdivision map o~ thi~ type on this p roject; and he `elt new rules ~hould app{y. He st~t~d this is not .7 change in the living concept and i[ wi 1 I sti 11 bc~ ,~ nx~bi lc ho~r~ park run by the Hon~n~yi~, 'y Assr~ciat iun. He stated as f~~ ~~5 h~~ is ~„nc, ~ i~d, as une Commissianer, that thc ir,nroved 1 iqht inq system ~~nd ihe existing streets arE acceptablr_. Hc sugq~sted, hawever, the hortr.owner's association should make s~~re all thr streets are in yood conditic~r, beforr the new ,i5sociation take~ over, (Mr. Jones explained the stret~ts have rc:cencly bc~en r~surf;,ceei,) Commissi~ner King asked Mr. Jone; if hr_ rti~uld be williny c~~ ~tiF,,,l~~te to ~~II conditions, excep~ [he ones re~latinq to lighting and strr_cts anci Mr, ,i~~nes rr,lied that he would. Commi~,sion~~~ ~avid asked Mr, Joncs huw lanq hr ha5 ownci Lhe proF~ert; and Mr, Jones replied ~,ir~te F~bruary of this year. Commissioncr David stated hc wati c~nccrned ahaut what happened tn tf~e Proposition 13 savinqs, explaininq hi5 home h_yd taken a dra•.ri< <ut in taxes a~d w~ ~dr.red why thirre h~d been ~~ rent increase ac thi~~ park. He asked how this conditional ~se permit relates to the qeneral ~lan amendrtic•~t to be held ~7n September 10, v~ndering if it will be cantiny~nt up<~n th.~i h~arinq, nctiny Chairnk~n Her~st explained a general p1,~n amendment hearinq wil) be held c±n ~ep[ember 10. 1979, on this partit:ilr~r property changinq the dc•siS~ation from Ipw to m~:diu~n denSiGy, which is :urrently qxisting, and it .~~I) have no ~ffect on th~5 p ro~ect. Jack Irhite, flepu[y City Attorney, explained th~, ~s a three-step proce~t and the peti;ioner needs a condi[ional usc p~rr~~c, a~eneral plan amendment ~nd a subdivision map and that they Cannot get the subdi vi s ~on rti.,,. wi [~uut the aeneral nl,n aR~~.,~,,,p.,. It was noted Lhat even if the yeneral pl~n desic~nation i5 arr~nded, the subdivision rr~p does not have to be~ approved. Cammissioner D•~vid asked if the Cammissi~.>n wi1l be lookinc~ at the project again relative to the ligh~ing system to deterinine wheth~r or not the existing conditions are adequate. Atting Chairman Herbst stated staff has tied this to the a~proval of a subdivisic~n map rtquiring a variance because the lo[s will not face a pub~ic ctreet, etc. Ms. Santalahti explained the light conditton is a relativ~ly new condition for a pr~va[e street and it r,as bec~~ added in the past few months beca~ese the City has had problems in 8/27/19 ,~ MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY ~LANNING COMMISSION, AUGUST 27, tg79 79-616 EIR NEGAT VE OECLARATION, CONGITIONAL US~ PENMIT N0. 2014 (continued) planned community developments where there is Inadequate lighting and thc residents have compldined; and that it was felt by addinq the conditi:.~n, the issue ~;+n be discussPd ncw and 1f the Commission feels the existiny s~tu~~tion is acceptable, at least the issue has benn discu5sed in the beginning. Actinc~ Chairman Ne~bst ~clt the improved lighting ~•ystem ptac.;~1 on ti~r carners and curves anc in kPy ~ratfic are~s wil) solve the problem. Ne felt the an~„ver~; have b~~n g;ven and the rules are known without a vote and st~~ted he felt the Commission needs to have ~ome estimate of what these people wi!1 have to pay; that therc are 341 units and hc wi11 not vote to convert 347 lots to ~~wn-~~~~~r~own l~ts without qettin~ total input from the Individual caach ownerr, and knawing how they will be affected. Annik~ Santal~~hti, Asst. Director ~! ,'c~ninc~, explained the tr~ct m.~p wi11 go [o the Planning Conrnissi~n an~' after taki~ ;.~ction on the Gencral Plan Amendment on September 10, the Commissi~ wi I 1 review the tract nw~; and cveryone wi 11 he renot ~ f ied. She s[at~~n the Ci ty Counci I wi I t see this project in 22 days i f Conunission appr~~v~ ti or denies i t. Commissioner p,~vid felt the petitic~ner could m.~kr ~~ very good e5timate of the cosCs and Mr. Jones rep) ied he cauld make a qood est irr~te by th~e t irr~ the rnatter goes to Counci 1 in ?1 days ~nd a final figure will bc availablc by the time the tract map is hcard by the Commissior. Comnissioner Fry stat~d fr~~m a phl~osophicai titandpoint, it is great to aSN. the peti[ioner for a figiire on the land, bui ;rom ~~ pr~~ctic.il Stand;.~uint it is ncarly in~~~~y5iblc at this time because hc is involved with a IendFr. the st.~t~~, the City, etc. He felt if Lhe petition~r quores a fiyure, it will 5tick in everyone's mind and if the actu~-+l r_os* comes in hiqhcr~ then ev~ryQne wiil be unhappy. He s!ated it is his personal opinion that it is unfair to try ~nd ~.~n [he petitioner dowr to s I~ind cost at this time. Cortmissioner Da~id staced the petiti~ner needs approva{ on this request before proceeding to the. next StC~. ,~nd FfSkhd COmml SS iOnPr Fry i f hc fel t the Conuni ss ion st i 1 I has a good handle an the sic~ •.i^~ ~fter this re~,uest i~ appr~ved. Commissioner Fry felt t~•~ ~on•.rol is stili with the Cnnmission and [he City Caunci) and a~~ked if the C~mmissic,n will deny the request if the ~rice conrs in highPr. Jack White, Deputy City Atto rney, stated if the Commi~,sion approves this conditi~~•,al use perr~~it, th~ petitiuner will stitl have t~ havc a public hearing on the general plan amendment whict wil) go to r.he Cit~r Council anG wi,l [hen reyuest a tentativ~ tract map approval. He explained approval of thc conditio~al use permit does not by itself auth~rize [he su5divis~~n or the salc of any lots and is only the first o~ three steps required. He stated :he conditional use permit r~quest does not indi~ate how many lots there w~ll be and that will be reviewed -rhen the general plan amendment and subdivision rr~p reqwest is presented. ~nci this only authorires a use of a rn~bile home park on that property and it ~s conli~4e- + u~,on [wo o~her steps be~ng anprovecl. Commissione.r F~~ ,sked if chcre are 341 ~bile ~:omes on th~ development at this time ar,d if ~47 rsnbilr~ ho~;,Ps are ~roposee in the cract map and Mr. Jones indicated that i, ~prrect. Mr. White suggest~~d the Comni;sion add a condition that the approval of the conditional use permlt would be subject to the approval of a fi,~l tract rnap for the subdivision of tht prot~erty into ind~vidual lots. B/27/79 c MINUTES~ AN~~HEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AUGU51 ?.7, 1q79 EIR hFGAT~VE DECLARA'ION AND CONOITIONAL USE RERMIT N0. 2014 79 ••6 ~ 7 ~cont(nued) the property into individual lots. Acting Chairman Herbst st~-t~d he wc~uld like to is a good proJect, but wanted to be sure that c~f coach owners; but did not w~nt anybady ta ~: approved that the particular development is he sees some answers. get the projcct ~ta.ted bec.~~i5e he feels it it meets the conditions and expcc:tations conceive that if the conditional use permit approved~bec~~use he wil) not approve it until Mr. White explained approval of this request is not approva) of a particular development or a particular aubdivision and will mcrely 5ay this proN~rty is appropriate ~'or mc~bile home park suhdivision if th~~ subdivision map is approv~~~i later. Acting Chairman Herbst ~t~~ted he had madc Sonx statr.•ments that hc will no[ vote on th's p roject today, but that hr wil) vote on what the City Attorney ha5 said and r.xplained that this i5 :, conditional use permit which authorizes this prope~ty as bc~inq suitable for subdivi~,~on and thc petitianer will h.ive to come back bFf~re the Planniny Conmission for . gener~~l plan amendment which will desiynate the p roperty on the General Pl~n legally for m±dium den;iiy residential land uses and then a tract rnap will havc to be presentF~d showinc~ the subdivisian of thr. individu.~l Ic;fs and that will bc thc handlc the Comnission has an~ thc petitioner will have to have thc ~n5wcrs by thit tirx~. Jack White f`urther ~,xpl~ined d~~p~OVdl ~~, for subdi~~i5ion purposes, but it is ~till continqent upon app roval of the tract man whi~h is ,~alty the heart of thc proposal. ACTION: Cortmissioner Kiny offer.red a nr~tion, seconded by C ~nissionFr David and MOTION CARRIED (Cammissioner; Barnes, Busharr and Tol;,r be~nq absent) tha[ thr. Anaheim C~ty ?lanning Commis5ion haS rev~~~wed thc propo5a! tn p~rmit .~ ;mbii~ home park 5ubdivision on an irregularly-shaped parcc~t c~f I~nd consiscing of approximately 38 acres located at the northea5t corner of La Palrrk~ Aven,~ and Chrisden Strect, having approxirt~ate fron[aqes of 1$04 feAt ~n fhe n~rth side ~~f La F,;1n,~ Avenue and 71~~ frr•t c>n thc cast side of Chrisden Street. and does hcre~y appru~~~ the Ney~ ive Declarat~on tron; the rcquirement to prepare an environrnental impact rep~~rt ~n the bas s that there would be no siqnificant individual or cumu{ative adverse envircnmental impac~ due to the approval of this Negative Declaration since the Anaheim General F'lan desi~nate~ the subject property for hillside low, medium density reside~~tia! land uses conrn~•nsuratc~ with tFe prop~sal; that no sensitive enviranmental art involved in the propos~~l; [hat thc Ini i<~l S[udy submitted bv the petitiuner indicates no si~~nific~~nt indi ~~.iu.il or cumulative adv~rsc ~nvironrv~nt~l impacts; and tF'~at the Negative Oeclaration substant~ating the for~~going fi~.~ling<; is on file in the Cicy af P~r,aheim Planninq Department. C~nvni,sioner King Uf!ered Resoluti~n No. ~'C19-174 and moved for it5 passage and adoption that thc Anahcim City Planning Cormiission do~s hereby qrant the petition f~or Condition~ 'ISe Permit No. 2014, subject to the approval of a final tract map for the~ 5ubd?vi5ion of the property into individual lots, arid subject to In[erdepartmrntal Lommittee Recommendations. On roll call, the forecoiny resalution w~s pas,ed by the foliowing vote: bYES: COMMISSI~~I~RS: DAV10, FRY~ NER65T, KING NOES: COMNISSIONERS; NONE ABSENT: COMMISSfONERS: BARNES , sUSHOR~, TOLAR a~z7~79 c MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY FLANNlNG COMMISSION~ AUGUST 27~ t979 79-618 Ela NEGATIV~ D~CLARATION AND CONOITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 2014 (contlnued) Commissioner King offered a motion~ secandc~ by Conmissioner ~evid and MOTION CARRIED (Commissiuners Barnes~ Bushore E Tolar being absent) that the An~heim City Planning Cammission does hereby recommend to the City Cauncil that the ~equest for waiver of Councll folicy `~, 542 - Sound attenuation in residential proJects be appr~ved, AGting Chairman Nerbst explatned the Planning Commisslon will hold a public hearing on September 10, 1979, t~ review t` rrquost for a general plan amendment on this property and that basically wi11 be ~ utlne matter and thanked tho~e persnn attending and explained thcy could attend ie me~eting on Septembe-~ 10, 1q79~ lf thPy so dcsired. RECESS: There was a 10 m~ute recess at 3:05 p.m. aECONVENE: 7he meecing ~~convcned at 3:15 p.m. all Commissioner5 present, ex:ept Barnes , 8~hr~rc and Tolar being absent, 8/ z 7/ 19 ~ MINUTES~ AIiAl1EIM CIYY PIANNII~G COMMISSIUN~ AUGUST 27. 1979 79'61~ ITEM N0. ~ PUHLIC HEARING. (rirNERS: IIAROI.D 5. A~~D DE.TN li. ~~6~V~T~b~7~1 USE_ ~ERMIT NO. 1_8~)8 PROTTAS AND N01~ARD D, At~. JEIW GAR~k~, 2AOA Cest Llncoln Avenue. Anehetm~ CA 92804. A,GE~~T: TNUMIIS C. CACHRAN~ 2325 Seauola Street. Anahelm~ CA 92801. The CI ty ol` An~hel~n Plannln~~ Department requests APPROVAL TO RFVOY~E CONDI*IONAL USE PERMIT N0. 189$ FOR FAILURE TO COMPLY 1JITIi CONOITIONS QF APPROV~L on propertv ~%~`scr(bed as an trregularly-shaped parcel of land consisting ~f approxlmatelv 0.3 acre hrvt;,g ~ frontage of approximetely ~G; feet on th~ north stdc of Sequota Avenue~ having a mAxlmum depth of epproximately 85 fe•et~ being located a~~proximately 244 f~et sout-~ of thP cPnterl(ne of L~ Patrnn Avenue~ and furthrr described as 232~ Sequc~la Avenue. Th~re was na c~ne indicating thelr pre,ence in oppositlon to subject request and althouc~ the ztaff report to the Planning f,ommission d~~te~1 AuquSt 2?, ~979 w~~s nc~t read at lhe puhl~c hearing~ it is rcferred to and madc a part uf the minutes. Thomas Cochran~ agent, stated he was the lessee of the property when the original conditional use permtt was grantPd, but has since purchased the property and explained fhe condttiens have br,en met~ except. the stre~t Ilqht payment. Dean Sherer~Zon(ng Representative, expl.,inect stafti' has inspected the pro; ty and f incl i t is in compl(ance with the c~nciitions of thc c~riqlnal permit, except the street light fee ha~ not bren pald, TI~E PUBLIC HE:ARING WAS CI.USED, Comnissioner King askeG about employee p~rkinq on che ~treet and Mr, Cochran explained they have 365 feet of frontaqe on Sequoia an~1 th~ir lot would no[ be large er.~ugh co handle thetr material and the employees vehi~les; incf that norrnal!y ther•c are only three ur four employees in the ~Ffir.e, except on Friday when tney pick up [heir pay che~.ks, Acting Chairrnan Herbst expleined thFre is ~+ condition in the <~riqinal c.onditional use permit requiririg all emplo~pee parking ~n site at a!I times and Jack Whlte, Deputy City Attorney~ explained tfiat condit~on ~s still in effcct and in order to moAify oi cie;ete the c~nditions, the mat[er would have ta be readvertised, but che co~dition could not be modified ar de leted tc~day. Commissioner Kiny stat~d he ~lid not underst nd that co~,~'ltion since !his p~eperty owner is paying toxes and Is not ali~wed to use thc street far parking. Annika Santalahti, Assis[ant Director for Zoning~ sta2~ , she bel~eved there was oppos'tion pres~nt oriqinally from the neighbarhood an<i there was concnrn abe•t on.street parking, and painted out this is a comrt~erclal use in a resid~ntial area. Mr. ~Ihlte expl~ined the ar~~licant could resquest a rrx~dificatlon or deteclt~n to the conditions and the matter would t~ re.,dvertlsed and another public hearin~ woulo be netd. (Mr, Cochrun felt it is vary difficult in thc mear~time to tell people the> ~nnct park in front of the off'ce when everybody else in tlie ne~ghborhood is parking on t.,4 strtet in front of the houses ~r business~5.) Conmtssior!er King refer~ed ~~~ the ~oncrete approath and noted ~ars park(ng in that location would black the drtveway and Mr, Cechran pnlnted out the equipment is kept on the property. Commission~r Davi~i asked why it had becorns necessary for the City t~ La4e thls ~~ctlon an~1 Mr, Cochran explained the property owner hi~ re'Fused to make the improvements and he had wanted Lo stay on the property~ ao arranged to purrhase th~ property, 8/z7/~9 ~ ..,~ MINUTES~ ANAHCIM CITY PLANNING COMhtISSiON, AUGUSI 27, 1979 79-620 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 18,~8 (contlnued) Commissioner King asked lf the oleanders wtll bc, continued on the north and Mr, Cochran ;epli~d ther~ ls an old street with pavertx nt ~~ndcr the dirt in [het ~+rea and it would be very expenstve to ramove !he b~.~ck-top. ACTION: Carnnissioncr David offered a mc~t~~~~, seconded by Commissioner +'~ng and NOTION CARRIED Commissioners Esarnes, Bushore and Tolar being abscnt) that the pr~cendings to revoke Conoitional Use Permft Na. 1898 be terminated on th~~ bacis t+~;~! the conditions of approval h~ve been met, Annika Sant~lahti explained to thr petit.ioner that tf~.: lighrinq fee may be pAid on his way out e~d further explained thc f'er Is based on 53.50 per Ilnca! f~~ot for thc fr~ntage wh(ch In thls case [otals $1,277,50 and this is a one tirn~ fee which has never been paid on this property, ~he polnt.ed out thc pe~(ticncr i5 not beiny ch~~+rqed for t~e frc~~tage on La Palr+a. Actir~g Chalrrna~~ Ncrbst felt this fs ~i h(g~~ fee for s~ch a ymall parcel of pr~perty and ask~d (f there is any way for the pctitioner to get rellef and Ms. Santal~~hti replied tne ~et'tioner could cantact the Public ~)tit(ties ~epartment. She e~plained this is .~ cond(tion o` the conditional use pcrmit and (f he wants to h~~v~ it dcleted there would have tu be a readvcr- tisement requestinq •,p~:r(f~c delecion of thl~, condlti~n, She pointed c~ut this ~ecition was discussed at City ~oun:.i I Icvel bec~~use the .idjacent proper;y owners UbjP.r.ted ro t'~e oriaira) Comnission approva~ and parking had bcrn a~ issue. Jack White, Dep~~ty City Attarncy~ explaint the petitioner could file ~t the same tlme a requ~st to delete bcth the tnnditions rel,+tinca to strect parking and the payment of lightiny fets and ~lso coniact thN litilities DPpartrnent for thefr support, Co~nnissioner F~y statcd hc cou!d t,nderstand the fees wher thcre is ~i square lo[~ but with a Lriangular parc~l. che fee cioesn't seem fair, Acting Chairmar~ Nerbst expiainec~ th,~t w~s thr reasan he had t~raught the rr,~tter up, b~~t that is the way the Code •xds. Ccxnmiss ioner K i ng as4ced i f the arc~as ad jacent to th (,• ~ropei .y are ~v~: i I- 1 i_yhCed anci Mr, White explained the street lighting fees apply tn whole city and it doe5 noi mean that lights will be installed ;n front of thi~ pr~per'y, Acting Chairman Herbst felt tf.e fees should bN assess~c+ on the square f~ocage rather than the strPet frontoge, He rxplained to t~s r~iitioner that. ttie conditionai use permit has been r~affirmeu, Er.cept ;u~ those twc~ con~itio~s and he could submit a new ~equest relat(ng tn ~hose. 8/27/79 MI NUTES ~ ANAHE. I M C I TY .~LANN I NG GOMMI SS I Of~ ~ AUGI.:ST 27. 1979 ~g_62 ~ I TEM N0. 5 PUtiL I C NEl,fi I NG. 0`~~~JERS : STUAP,T STNJLEY Y.AL I SN ~~RICAL EXENPTIO~J-CLASS 1 AI~D REBECf,A GODDflftu KALISiI~ 219Q West Hunttn~ton VARIAtIC~ N0. 31~7 Avenue~ AnAfielm~ GA ~2$01. Af,ENT: JOIIN P. DOL11N~ 1111~ East 17th Street~ J'2~1 ~ Tustin~ CA~2fi80. Petitloner re~~uests WAIVER OF MINIMUM NUMUER OF ENCLOSED PAR~;I,~G SPACCS TO tiCTAIN AN ILLCGAI. GARAGC CONVERSION on pr~pcrty de:scribed as a rectangularly•shaheJ ~,,~rcel of land cunslstin~i of appraxirrv~tely f,0~i~1 squere f~et locatad at thP south~ost corner of [iroo~.hurst Strcet and Nuntinnt~n Avenuc~ I~~vin~ approximate fro~t~sges of ~7 fE,et an the east side of Brookhurst Strcet and G5 fret on the south slde of f~untln~~on Avenuc~ anJ furthcr dcscrtbe~t ~s 2190 West Iluntln~ton Avenuc. Property presenfly classif(e;! RS-7~On (RCSIbCNTIAL~ SINGLE-FAMIIY~ '^"~. There were approximately threc~ perso~s indic~t~ny the: en~e in opposi[ion la subJect request~ an~~ although the stafF repurt to f.he Planning ~~- ,is:,ion datt~~.i August 27, 1979, was not read at the public. hearlnc~, it is referred [o and made a part of the minutes. John Dolan~ A~[orney~ stated Mr. Kalisl, ~5 a Mixing Engineer on a free-lance basis; that he has approximat~ly $50~040 worth of record(ng, play-b~rk ~nd mixing equiprnent at h~me b~cause msny times he works on a deadiine aasis ,~nd wi~l finish his work at hcxne; that the equipment is in his garage; that origins~lly he had gotten a permit to expancl the back area tr; facilftate thts equipn-cnt and when final ~ppraval w~~s necessary and ~he pruNerty was i~spPCted~ it was discovered he had clo,ed th~~ garage da~r and removed the sprin~s withaut the proper variance; and that ~~e did not knaw a varian~:~ was necessary and the building (s completed. Mr. Do1Ln stated the parking is no problem because chere is a driveway where he ~an park a small and mcdium siTe~s car witho~c any problem. -le fel[ the variance should be grantpd because the expen•~ive equiprr~n[ will be scc~re with thr. door closed; and that the daor can be re-opened if the proper•iy iti sold by repl~.~cing the springs and rern~yving t~~ seals. Ne statec! the petitioner does w~~rk in th ~ area anci if the door was nut se~~~er ~the notse would be bothersome to the neighb~~s, ~~[ therr is no problem when the dc~or is closed because it is insulated, He stated thr. g~ragc ha; been closed for a ye ar and there have been n~ significant problems. He stated Mr. Y.alish has talked to the neighburs dire~tly next door and they do not have a problem with thc r~equest; and there was a petition signed by other neighbors who do not feel it ~s a siynificant problem, Hc stateci he unde~stands it is quite cammon in this ..rea to c.luse off the garage daor without seeking approval. Mrs. Lath~~~-~ stated ~he has lived on her property for 24 vears and beli~ves in obeying [he law; that everyone is supposed to have a garage and be able to puk a car in it; that ~ e likes music and would have no problem if he played music outside~ but she did not feel it is right for him to '~ave this variance. She stated there has been a lot of next door neiqht+ars in and cu~ of that house next deor in ihe 7?~ year•s she has lived there. Mrs. En31e~ 1181 N.Ka:clla, asked what assurancP thcy have Cha[ granting this parti~ular variance will ru~t le~d to cortmercial exploitatton; for example~ a neighbor rents a facility in a properly z~ned area for manufacturing doors and paintinq them~ and was concerned that hP ~.~uld want to converC his garaye for this pur~~c~se and subject them [o noise and p~+int fumes; that another neigt~bor is inlerested in s. ting up ~ photography business and ~elling te~-.t,irxs, cuffee mugs ~nd pillow cases an~l she fe{-, 'hal r,ype operation would u~dermine the residential quaiity of their neighborha ~i. She stated another neighbor woutd like to establish a beauty shop next ~onr wilich woul! cause fire hazards and additiona) t~affic. She dld not feel a c am~on practice should cvnd~ne a varianr.e and felt citizens should obey the ldw and foliow the restrictions. She stated she is opposed to granting this variance. 8/ Z 1/ 79 ~~ MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PI.ANNING CQMMISSION~ AUGUST 27, 197~ EIR CATEGORICAL EXEMPTlON, VARIANCE N0. 3107 Eleanor Bay~ 2148 W. Graysan, stated she does but did go by the~e and the car parked in the hanging over the sidew~lk and thPre is no way she knows of one other conversion in th~ ar•ea but they do have a long, curved drl ve-May. Shc the -'es i dent i al a rea and i t i s not a c~mrno~, t 19-622 (continued) not llve within ;00 feec of the property, driveway was parked ~;~ an angle t~ keet> it from to park a car str.i ght in the driveway; that and did not know whether or not they h.-d permfts, stated shc really resc•nts commercial intrusipn into hinq ir this area. Mr, Dolan stated the conc;erns expressed are well taken and fE.lt per!~a~,s ~,e had not explained thP use of thr_ garage proper!y; that he is an atto rney and has an extensive library at horr~ and takes work home and works on cases at home in t~a5ically the s:+me n~nner as his client in th15 ce~e; tliat his cliert almc~st alway5 works in a recording studio, but at times must fini~h his work at horrk~; that he doe5 not bring any~ne inio chc area ~nd r~o one else uses this as a recarding studio; that he simply has this equipnk•nt hecautie this is his area of saeciality and he cannot carry it with him; that he is an electronics buff and is always tryinn to improve his eqi~ipment; that hc agrees it is not proper to uper,-te in an unlawful r~nn~r anc' is ~equesting this variance ta rect~fy th~t situation; th~~t Mr. Kalish has qotte~n buildinq permits to modify the configur~tion of his qarage and did not understand he haci to nave a variar,ce to close the ~arage door. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED. Acting Chairman Herbst stated chis action is a result of actinn taken by the Zoning Enforcement Officer; that ths Commission has no cantrol over what a perscn uses their garage f~r ,~s long a5 it is ~~ garage and thcre ar~ rn~~ny p~~opl~ who pa~k their veh,ictes flutside ~nd store inside~ but the Commission cannet c~ndone bl~ck.ing off the garaq~ and tiealing it for business purposes; and thak the petitioner ha5 a home a~cupatian pArmit, but it d~es not permit a comner~.ial use. Commissioner King Kcated he would frown on this use becausA h• felt it is a c~~rm~ercial use in a residential are~~~and Mr. Dolan st~~ted the pctitioncr wi'I n~~t have a business perm~t and wil{ not have people in -n~ out for commercia) purp~ses. Commissioner Dav~d felt the problem +s the operability c~f che garage door and that it couid be secured and still be functi4nal; ~~nd that whethcr th~ peGitioner w~nts t~ park ehe car in the yarage or not is r.is decision. Mr, Dolan stated i[ is his understandinq that the pr;~pPr irsu~ation has to be installed so the sound wil) not annoy neic~hbr,rc ~-~nd that th~ dcx~r mus: hc~ proper'ly sealed. Commi,sioner David asked if two vchicles could be parked in [hP driveway and Mr. Dolan stated he coulcf not answer that question for sur~, but did not t.hink the ca~s were over the sidewalk when he had been there because I~e had seen several peopl%~ walking bv che prope~ty reading the notice of this hearing without any difficulty. Acting Ch~irman Herbst explained current Cade requirements are for r.wa spaces inside a garage, two spaces on-site in thedriveway and one on the streat. Ne did not feel this property could provide anywhere near thc required parking spaces. Commissioner Fry asked Mr, Dulan ii he hacl been inside the converted garage and if any modificat~ons have been made inside or between the hause and garage,and Mr. Dolan replied that he had bePn inside and explained that the garage is n~t attached to the house. Cammissioner D~vid inditated he ~~s mixed feeling,; that the att.c~rney takes his work home and the petitioner does the same thin~, but also felt th~ garane door should be funcLlon~l and the petitioner should rr~ ke it functionai even if he doesn't park his vehicles inside. 8/27/79 ~ NINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY Pt„AN~'ING C~iNM~SSION~ AUGUS7 27~ ~979 79-673 EIR CATEGORICA :XEMPTI~N VARIANGE N0. 3107 (contlnued) Jack White~ Caputy Ctty Attorn~y~ explat~ed :he 2r:ning Code raqui~es that two off-street parking speces be provided within an e~closed gara~e~ t~ut there are no means to requi~e +~ person to par~, t.wo ~ehicles in the qarage~ but it h~~s to be capable of being utilized for park(ng spaces; therefore~ there c.annot be any permar~ent modiflcotions made to the duor or the inside of the garage that would make it impossfb~e to park two vehicles withtn the gara~~ Itself~ •hat there could be no perrt-~+nent partiti;ms in xhe g~:raga, etc.~ a~d the garaqe dour must be ocerablc~. It was nora~i the Planning Oirectar or his authorized repres~ntative has determined that the propoced pro,ject falis witF~in the definlti~~n ~f C~teqorical Lxempt,ions, ~iass 1~ as def{ned in Paragraph 2 of the City ~,f Anoheim Environrt-ental Impact Rep~~rt Guideline~ an~' is~ therefore~ cotegorically excmpt from the requtrement to pre.pare :~n EIR, ACTIOW: Commissioner David offered Resolutlon No. PC79~169 and mov~~d for its pass~.q~' and adoption that the Anoheim City Planning Gomnisslon docs herPby der~r V.~rianc:e No. 3107 on tne basis that the gA~~age conv~rsi~n is nut ccxnpatible with the surroun:~ing ~+re~ and there are no special circumstar,ces applicable to the property, incl~ding 5ize~ shape~ topagrap'~y~ locatfon or surroLSidings, which do not apply tc~ uther property :inder identical zoning tlassification in the vicinity. On rot) call~ thc fore~oing resolutiun was passe.i by the following vote: AYE'S: COMMIS~IaNERS: DAVID, FRY, HERBST. KING NOES: COMMISS ION;~RS : NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIOhERS: BARNES~ 6USHORE~ TOLAk Jack W~~ite presented the writLe~ right to appeal the Planning Commisslon's decisian wittiin 22 days to the Ctty Council. $/27/ 7S ~ MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLN~I~ING COMMISSION~ AUGiJST 27~ 1979 79-624 ITE~1 N0. ~ PUBLIC IIEAR~I~G. OWNER; TEI1Cf1ERS IN-URANCE A~IO E.IR CATEG(~RICAL EXEHPTION-CLASS ANNUITY ASSAGIATI011 OF AMERICA~ 73(1 Thlyd Avenuc~ V ' 1~ , N~w ~ork~ N. Y. 1~417. AGENTS: ELECTRICAL PRODUCTS CORP.~ 110 N~rth Matn Stre~t~ Los lingeles. CA 9~012 end CAI,~F~JR~~IA COh~'UTCR PROI)UCTS~ INC.. 2411 Nest La Paln,~ /lvenue, Mah~tm~ C!1 '12Ei~1. Petiti~ncr r~quests WAIVCR OF (A) PERMITT~Q I.QCATI0~1 OF FLASIIING SIG`IS~ (w) MAXIMUN IIE:If,IfT OF FLASNING SIGNS~ (C) MAXiMUM AP,EA OF FREE-STANDIi~G 51 GNS , AiiU ( u) MnX 1 HuH HE I Gr~T OF 5 I C~~s w i Tii t~~ 75n FEET oF R~5 I DE NT I AL ~TRUCTURES ~ Tc~ CONSTRUCT !1 fREC-STA;tpiNG SIGI~ on propercy dcscr(b~~i as An irreyularly-shep~d ~arcel ~f land eonsistii~~ af a~~,rc-xia~at~,ly 16,7. ~cres l~c~ted north and west c~f thr nnrthwest eorner of l.a Pal~,;a Av~nue ~nc' Gi lbcrt Str~ct. having epprc~r.irnat~ frontoyes of F+~ fce• on the n~rth s(de of La Palr~e Aven~x: and ;~~G feet un thc west sicic nf Gilhert Str~et~ and further des~r(bed as 2~+11 uc~st LA Palmi llvcnur.. Propcrty pr~sently classif(cd ML (It~DUSTRIAL, LINITCD) 20Nt. There was one person indir.atir..~ her orPSence in oppo5ition to subjec.~ request and although the staff rPport to the Planning Lomm(ssion datcd Auyust 27, 1979 wn; nc~t read at [he public heariny~ it is referred to and m.~de ~i pzrt of ~he minutes. Willlam Barker, Elec[ric.al Products Corporation, aqent ~or Calffornia Computer Products, Inc „ explatned they are propos.ing ~ sign adjacent to the Santa Ana F'reew~~y which is higher ~nd larger than ~+ermitted because of thc exisLing trees. Hc cxplatned they would be permitted ta have more sions, but pref~r t~ have c~ne slgn; that thc~ en[ire slqn is ~+5 fee[ h!~h, but the elec[ronic portion is 28 feet high; and that tfie electronic portiun is not facing thP residentia) area across the freeway~ and that area will only be exposed ta the end of th,e sign; that the s(yn w;,uid conf~orm, excepi in square footage, if thic were a normal com- merciol ar~a. Oean Sherer, Zoning Representative, exFl~~ine<f khe <~ctual ciistancP of the proposed sign to the residential arNa is 225 feet, Mr. Barker statea d v~riance was approved f~r an existing sign at US Electrical Motors in the area, Ne explained California Con,puter Pro~iucts. Inc, hires highly qualified people and has a tremendous amount of employment op~ortu~itics an-:*~~nts the sign to advertise those positions and reach those applicants traveliny the freeway to other etectr~nic and comput~r ~ompanies in the ~irea and that th(s will be the primary benefit of the display, He stated it will not be a flashiny ~lispiay, bui more an off/on t~linking display, with a time elerr~nt of three seconds.Whj~h complies with the St.ate Beauiificattr~n Act. Carol Clayton, 1238 Devonshire~ stated she 1lves ac~~~s the freeway ~.rd is basically concerned about the liqhts when she's in bed at r~ight and felt the sign should stay within Code requirements. Mr, Barker sh~iwed Ms. Clayton the plan and the angle -~f the Sign in relationship to her home~ expiaining she would see the end of the sigr,and point..d out the reason fcr the height variance requ-st is because of tFe trees and did not think it would be possible for her to see the sign. Ms. Clayton stated she would have no objeciion to the sign if it cannot be* seen from her property. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED, 8/21; 19 ~ ~ ' MINUTES, RNAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AUGUST 27~ ~979 79~625 ~_IR CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION-CLA55 ti. AND VARIANCE. N0. 3110 (continuec!) Act(ng Chairman HerL~t was cancprned ahout the number of waivers b~ing requested and Mr. Barker explained the c~~roany namr letters are only 3~ inches high and the wa(ve~ is necessary to include the con~pan~ logo. H~ explained they had ~i btiiboard with signs henging from it showing the availablc jub opportun(ties, but feit this woulcl bc r~ better soluti~n. Ac[ing Chairmon Hcrbst rcl~ited he is ncit oppased tu this .,ign, but thr Commissi~n has worked h~rd for o lang tlme on the Sign Ordinance In order to proter.t thc i.~sidential arpas~ but he also did not want to Imposc restrictivns on the inciustries. He stated he is not sure in this case whether lhc Iight wil) be imposed on the reside.nts r~cross the freewaY ~nd fclt if the oppasition and Cc~mnission ~ould '~e assured thi5 will not happen~ he would support the request. Mr. Barker stated thc only way to guarantee Ms, Clayton thtit she would nat be able to see the sign would be to lift a target and that would be vcry expensiv~. Ne explained the light hulbs in the sign are in a cylinder~ set back approximately 3 inches,and he dlcf ne~t think on a perspective angle of 1Q-15,' that any ligh; could be sFen. Acting Chairman Nerbst clarified the C~l Cc~mp letters will be liyhted 45 ft. high and Mr. 6arker explained there are two signs facing her property now which are an top c~f ihe bui~ding~ approximately 85-90 feet high~ about 300 feet to the side of the proposc<1 sign location, and the distance back would be 5-~0 feet. Acting Chairman Nerbst suggested the petitioner requcst a continua^~-e ber.ause hc felt ihe residential neighborhood de5erves the Commissi~>n's protection because once thF sign is up with flashing lights~ ir. would be ~liffic~~lt ta have it removect. Hc staled he has driven past this property an~ did not think anyone would have any difficulty finding Lal Comp. He stated a variance is being requested which cauid interfere with these residents`life style and the burcien of proof lies with the petitdoner, Mr. Barker st~fed th~ sign will be as hic~h as the bo~. car~ in the area and if the residents cannot see the traIr~ box cars, they wtll not s~e the sign, (Mrs. Clayton stjted the box cars are visihte from her property), Commissioner Fry reminded th~ Commissian che petition~r has indicated tl~e rPSidents will only see the end oF the sign and Commtssiuner David asked Ms. Clayton if she would be opposed to the sign if she could nat see the light and Ms. Clayton replied the freeway is a big problem already and felt a largE flash=ng sign wauld be too much, but that she would nol be opposed if she could not see che light. Commissioner King stated he would like to have the matter continued so he could check the property Lo seP haw this sign will affect her property. Mr. Barker requestcd a two-week continuance in order to assure che Commission and i!;, Clay[on that the sign could not be seen from her property. ACTION: CommissiAner David offered a motion, seconded by Cortmissioner Herbst and MOTION CARRIEO (Gommissioners Barnes~ Qushore and Tolar being absent) that consideratton of the aforementioned item be continued to the regularly scheduled meeting of September 10~ 1979 at the request of the petitioner. 8/27/79 ~ MINUTLS~ Ai~Ni[IN CITY PLAN~~INr, COMMI ~51AN~ AUGUST 27~ tg79 79-62G ,~~T~;~~ ~~p~~ PUDLIL NEAa1NG. ONNEf',; VIRGiNIA J. DENNCR~ 19~~~ EIR NLGATIVC DCCLARl1TI~N Cast SyGanorr_ Strect~ Nnahrirn, CA ~2Cc?5. AGF.NT: WAIVER OF ODC RC UG~IRE.ME~~T TNOrAS J. QLSEN, lhi payberry Court~ Anaheim~ CA C N ~ ~~ -- M , ~~F; !?2'~07, Fecitlonr.r requests vPrmisston to ~STAE3L1511 AI~ IIUTQMt~131LC '~~HOlESA~.E FAC~LITY WITli WAIVF_R OF H~~InUt1 NUNPER OF P,E`1UIRfD ~~RKIIIG SPACES on property des~rlbed a5 a rectan~~ularly-shaped parcrl of lan~i c~>nsistlny of npproxlmatety 75~~ s4uare fcet having a~,proximate fronta~~~s c.~f ~~~ f~~et on the south side• ~f Ch~stnut Street and i~ fr.et on thc north sidp of 7hf rd Strcet~ hAVinq r~ maximum dcotr, ~f o~proxlmat~ly 1;0 fect~ being lotated epproxim,~tPly 1!1~ fe~[ ~~est of th~ c~nter) in~• c~f Len+an Street~ and further descrtbed ~s ~1b West Chrstnut Strret. P~uperty presently classificd Cf, (COMNERCII+I.~ GCNER/1L) ZQIIE. There was ~+c~ one indicating their presence in opposition to subject request ~nd although the staff report to the Planning Conmission d~ited Auqust 27, 1979 was not read at che public h~ariny, it is refcrra~l to and madr: a part of thc rninutes, Virglni~ Be~nPr~ owner, explained che propcrty is in the R~dcvt•lopment r~rea and will be purchased by the f',edevelo~m~nt 11y~ncy within two years. THE PUBLIC HEAPING W~S ClOSED, ACTION: Conxnissi~ner Kiny offered a motion, secondc~d by Cc~mniss~onEr David and MOTION CARRIED (Cortmissiune~s Bornes, Bu,hore and Tolar being ahsent) th~~t thE: A~af~eim Ci ty Planning Commission has reviewed the pro~os~+l tr. permit an ~3utornobil~ wholesale faGili[y ln the CG(Conn~ercial, Gr.neral) zone with waiver of min(mum number of rcquired parking spaces on a rectangularly-shapea parcel of land consisting of appr~xirtately 7500 square feet~ having ~ frcx~lage of approximately 50 f~e[ on the south side ~f Chestnut 5treet and a fron~aqe af 50 feet on the north ~idr e,f Third StrE~et, having a m~xirnum depth of approximately 150 feet, beiny located approximately 190 feet wesc of the certerline cf Lemon Str•eet; and does tl~ereby approvc the Negative Declaration from the requirement to prepare an environmenta! impact report on the basis that ther~: would be no siqnificant i nd iv i dua 1 or cumu I r~t i ve adve rse env i ronmc:~[a 1 i mpac t clue to the ~pprova 1 of th i~:; NegatJve Declar~tion sin~.e the Anaheim General Plan designates the subject prope~ty for aeneral commercial land uses comnensurate with the proposal; that no sensitive ~nvironmentai impacts are involved in lhe proposal; rha[ the Initial Study submitted k~y the petitioner indica[es no significant irdividual or cumulat(ve adverse enviro~mental impacts; end that the Negative Dec.larac.ion substantiatlnc~ the foregotng Fin~ings is on file in [he Ci[y of Anaheim Planning Department. Commtssfoner King offered a motion~ seconded by Commissioner Fry and MOTION CARRIED (Commisstoners ~arnes, Bushore and Talar b~ing absent) that Lhe Anaheim City Planning Cortmission d~es hereby grant the request for waiver of coae requirerr-~nt on the basis that there is adequate available parking in the immediate vicinity ar~d the usr. is temporary s(nce the property is scheduled to be acquired by the Redevelopment Agency in two years. Commissi4ner King offered Resolution No. PC79-170 anci moved for its passage and adoption th3t the Anaheim City Plan~iing Comnission docs hereby grant the Petition for Conditionai Use Permit No. 1965, for a period of ::•:~ years~ to tcrminate August 30, 198l, and subject to Interdepartmental Committee Recortmendation~. Qn -•oll c~~ll the foregoing res~:ution was passed by thc fnllowing vote: AYES: COMP115SIONERS: DAVIO, FRY~ HERBST~ KING NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSCNT: COMM15510NERS: BARNES~ BUSHORE, TOLAR 8/27/ 79 MINU7C5. ANAHEIM CITY Pl.A~1t~ING C(1MMISSION~ AUCl.ST 2~~ 1979 79-627 ITEM N0. ~1 PUE3LIC NEARI-~G. 01~NERS: Y7LANDA M. ANU TOM J. ETR NE'~1~Vf. DtCLARATInI~ TALBOT, No. > Cypress Treo le~e~ I rvlne~ C!1 92715. CONDITIOUAL USE PERHIT N0. ?.~t1~1 AGENTc WILII-RQ a. POOL~ 1~;~~ 9rookhurst Stre~et~ -"'-'- Garden ~r~ve~ CA ~12h4~. Petlttoncr requests pe rr+l s s I on to aF.TA I ~j !- FURN 1 T4'E 5 ALE S FAC I L I'Y on prope~ty dr.scribcd ~s A feGtBngulal'ly-shaped ~arccl of lan~l conslstin~ of epp~~xima~ety 1.~ acre having a tront~~~e of ,pr-roximrtely 2~h feet on the south side of aell Rc~nd, havin,y a maximum cir.pth of approxi~~kitely 17~1 fcet, heln~~ locateri approximt~tely 3~~ fect EASC of the ce~terline af Allec Street~ a~~f fur•ther descrit~r,~ .~s 613 East Ball Road. Prop~rty prasant7y classific~i ML (~NDU~TaIAL~ LIMITCD) ZONC. There was one pcrson lndicating hIs presence in nppasition to subject request ~nd althou~~h the staff report ta the Fl~~nning Commission dated August 27, ~979 W~s not read at the put~l ic hearing, it Is r~ferred to and made A part of thr minutes. Willard Poal~ attorncy~ stated this operation st~rted out as -~iinlesale. but didn' t rnake i: and ~ow it is r~tail and wholesale; that ~ven thaugh the stafr report indicates th~s is a rPSUIt of .3ctic>n taken by the Zoni~g E_nfurcemPnt Ufficer~ it is n~t .~ boo[leg op~r~tion an~ there werr large signs ,~dvertisinq whoicsale and retail furniture; that it was an over;ight on the part of the petitioner for not ~equcsting a permit for retail; that they employ 5 p~ap~~ ~nd produce sales tax rcvenue t~ lhe City; that it i, ~ very clean and quie~t operation and is not detrimental to the neiyhborhocxl; ~~nd thr~t there are other w~-~olesale/ retail upcrations ir thc: ares. He stat~d they would not bc opposed co p~ying the traffic ;ignal assessment fecs for a canmercial operatic~n. Steve Emory~ Kilroy Ir;duscries, stated ic is their f~eling that tl~e companits they develop far sucti as Lear Siegl~rr, ~tc, would consider a retail business in the area a d~ triment to the area. Mr. Paol stated apparently Kilroy Industries has srrne property in the area th~y are trying to develo~ and sell and stated tk~ey will be '~appy to accept a two-year review. THE PUBLIC NEARING WAS CLOSED, Commissioner Oavld asked if thc building is leased and Mr. Paol explained the pe t(tioner owns the building. Commissioner David asked what ;~holesale meant in the original application f~r a business llcense and asked how a wholesalc aperation w~ould service the industrial area,e.x plaining the concept behind ~onditional use perrtiits in the industrlal zones is Cha~ the u se services the area. He stated the original application indicaced no sales to the general publi~ and he did not fee) this is a quPStio~ as ta the cleann~ss of the o~eration, but ju s t that it is not in [he right place. He stated it is his personal feeling that che Cornmissi~n ~hould face che stxuation an~: not approve the use; that they are constantly bump ing heads with the probler., anc! felt Pall Road deserves~ some c~nsideration. He indic~ated he is against this lype operatlon ir the. industrial zones. Mr. Pool explained thc p~titioner had ori~inally suld furniture to motels and h otels. Ne stated this uSeis allowed in this zone with ~pproval of a conditional use permi t, Cortmissioner David explained the area is zoned industrial and conditional use pe rmits are required in order to control this type operation; that conditinnal use permits are granted for uses reiated ta the indust~iai community and he could ~ot see where retail sales oT furniture would be r~lated, He stated this type decision is very tough bscat~se the petitianer owns the building and is in buslness already. 8/ ~7f 19 MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMM15510N, AUGUST 27~ 1y79 79-628 EIR NEGA7IVE DECLARATION AND CONOITIONAL USE PERMIT N0, 2009 (continued) C~mmissioner Fry refer--ed to the. application far a husiness Iicense dated October 18~ 197A which states the use would be wholesale with no sales tn the general public, and explainPd the license was issued on that b3sis. Mr. Pao1 ~tated when lhe peticio~er applled for the busines5 ticense~ he intended t~7e use [o be wholesale to mptc!15 and hotcls, but found out the business would not car~~y itself so thcy went into retail, 1lcting Ch~irman Hcrbs[ stated thc retail sales t~avc been going on for months and the business Ilc;ense was granted less than a year ago. lie fel[ it is cimr~ thc Cortmission draws a line and tells tftiese. buslnesses which h~v~ gane in ~~s wholes~+le furntture stures that they are in the wrc~ng location be~ause they are a detriment to the indust~lal ~irea; that the Commissian has he~rd this s~me story before and he could not suppart the requcst; thal there has been yom~ leniency in certain ~~reas, but a wholesale business license is just a foot-in-the-d~.~or 'For retatl sales. Anth~ny Talbat stated the business was originally ~tarted as a wholcsa~e operation clealing directly wlth motcls~ hotels and capartments, but th~se businesses are now dealing more and more direc2ly with the factorics; that they npved to the Santa Ana area, but [hat store did not have enough business and thcy moved to Anaheim ,and are cla~,ing the Santa Ana store. He stated they have worked hard to get to chls point and would Iike approval of a conditianal use permlt. Hc stated they do not have cnough business to carry this starc for wholesalc only artd that it was very expensive to buy chis property a~:~1 build the building. Acting Chairman Herbsc stated this is the guise these furnicure c;~erations have used to get into the industrial areas and the Commission mi,st protect the inlrgrity of the industrial zones. Mr, Talbot pointed out there are othcr r~ctail establishments along Ball Road. Acting Chainnan Nerbst staterl ,cxne of the uses were permitted because they service [he industrial communlty and same were established illegalty. ACTION: Commissianer King offered a rr~tion, seconded by Gammissioner David and MOTION CARRIED (Comnissioners Barnes~ Bushore and Talar being absent) that the Anaheim City Planning Comnission has reviewed L!~e proposal to retain a furniture sales facility ~n the ML(Industrial~ Limited) zone. on a rectangularly-shaped pa~cel o` land consisting of appraxi- mately I acre, having a frontage af approximately 204 feei on the s:uth side c,f 8a11 Road~ heving a maximum depth af approximately 179 feet and being located approximately 300 feet e~st of the centerline of A11ec Street; an~ do~s heret~y approve the Negaiive Der_laration from the requirement to prepare an environmental irnpact. report on the basis that there wauld be no significant individua~ or cumulative adverse environment.al impact due to the app roval of this Neg~ttve Declaration ;ince the Anaheim General Pla~ deslgnates the subject property for general industriat land uses comnensurate with the proposal; that no sensitive environ- ment~l impacts are involved in the proposal; that the Initial Study submitted by the petitioner indica~es n~. significant tndividUal or cumulattve adverse environmental impacts; ard that the Negative Declaration substantiating the foregoing finclings is on f11e in the City of Anaheim Planning Departrnr~nt. 8/27/79 ~~ MIN1ITES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AUGUST 27, 1979 79_62g 'tIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION AN~ CONDIT~ONAL I)SE PERMIT NO_, 2009 (co~tinued) Cammissioner King offered Resolutlon No, PC7~~-171 and movr.d for its passage and a~option th~t che Anahelm City Planniny Cortmission dae5 hereby deny Pc.t(tian for Conditional Use Permit Na, 2009 :~n the basis that the use is not cornpatiblc wi[h the surrounding tndustrial ~~ommunity. On roll call~ the foregoing resolution wt~s passed by the followinq votr_: AYES: i:OMMIS5IUNERS: DAVID, FRY, NERBST, KING NOES; COMMISSIONERS: NONf AHSENT': COMMISSIONFRS; BANNfS, 9USHURL, TOLAR Jack W~iite, Deputy City lltcorney, presentec~ thr written right tu a,r.peal the Planninq Commission's decis~cxi within 22 days to thc Cit.y f,r~uncil, ITEM N0. 10 PUBLIC HEARING. OWNER: BEVfRLY V. IESLEY ~OCKE, EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION 3180 West l~ncoln Avenue, CA 92$O1. AGENT: WAIVER OF cooe REQUIREMENT CLYOE CARPENTER L ASSOCIATES, INC,, 2760 South Harbor CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 2010 Bc~ulevard, Suite N, Sar~t~ Ana, CA 92704. Petitioner ~~ reques[5 pefinlS510f1 tc~ ESTABlISN !~1 AUTOMOBILE RFPAIR FACILITV WITN W/11VEK OF MiNIMUM NUMBER pF PARKING SPACES on property descriUed as a rect<~ngulirly-shaped p.~rcrl of land c~nSiSting of ap~roximately 0.5 acre iocated at the Southe.ast corner of Lincoln and Wesicrn Avenues, havirg approxinkitcly frc,ntages of 15Q feet or. the south side of lincoln Avenue and 150 feet on th~ c~atit sid.r, c~f uestern Avenue, and further descrihed as 3180 west Lincotn Avenue. Propcrty presen~iy classified CL (COMMERCIAL, LIMITED) ZONE. There was no one indir_ating their presencr ir oppc~c.ition to subject request and alth~.ugh the staff report to the Planninc~ Commi~;sion dated Auyust 27, 1979 was not read at thc pubiic hearing, it is referred to and ~r4~de a~art of the minut~s. Mark MurphY~ Carpente-' Associ~tes, referred to th~~ st~~f( report, Condition No. 5 nf the Interdepartmental Cor.rnittce Recommendationsrequirinr; that the existinp underyround gasoline tanks shatl be remc~ved ~,r f;11ed ~~, :,pproved by the City oF Anahcim Fire Department a~d explained their submitted pl.~n incjicated thcy are to re~in and explained thPy wish to retain a service pump in the rear to dispense fue.l for the Uwrter's vehicles. Ne stated there will be no retail sales of r~asoline to the pub~ic. THE PUBLIC HEARING MiAS CLbSED. Acting Chai~man Herbst ask~d if the Fire D~parcrnent has reviewed the requ~st to retain the tanks,and Mr. Murphy indicated hp ha~, a plan which was st3mped by the Fire Jepartment showing the rema~ning tanks and ±hey saw no problem. Jack White~ L~eputy City Attorney~ stated approval could be conditioned tt~at retention of the two underground canks i5 subject to the approval of the City of Anahcim Fire Marshal• ACTION: Commissi~ner King offered .~ motion, seconAed by Commissio~er Da~Id and MOTION CARRIEO (Commiss+o~ers 8arnes, Bushorc: and T~lar being abs~nt) that the Annheim City Planning Cammission has reviewed the proposal to pcrmit an automobile ~epair facility in thc CL (Ccmmcrcial, Limited~ zone with a waiver of mi~imum number of parking spaces or~ a rectangularly- shaped parcel of land consisting ~f approximately 0.5 acr~ lacate~ at the southeast corner oF Lincaln Rvenue ar+d Western Avenue, ha~ing an approxin,ate frontage c~f i5D fcet on the south siae of lincoln Avenue and an approximatc fron~a~e of l;h fect on tt~~e east siJe of Western Ave~ue~ and does hereby app~uve the taegattve Declarat(on from the 8/ 2 7/ 79 i MINUTES~ ~NAHEIM GITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AUGUST 27~ 1~79 79-630 ITEM Np. 10~ EIR MEGA7IVE OECLARATION~ WAIVER QF CODE REQUIREMENT, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 2010 (continued) ~______ ___, requiremcnt to preparP an environmental impact report on the basis that there would be no significant individual Ar cumulative advers~ environrrent~l (mpact due to the approval a( this NegativP Decl~ration since the Anaheim Gener~~l Plan design~tes the subJect praperty for qeneral cortmercial land uses commensurate with the pr~~posal; that no ~ensitive ~nvl-on- mental impacts ~re invoivec; in thc proposal; that the Initi~il Study submitted by the petitfoner indlGates no significant individual or cumulative adverse environn~ental impacts; and that the Negative Declaration substantiacing the foregaing findings is ~n ~ilr in the City c~f Anaheim Pl~nning Department. Comm(ssioner King offered a motion~ scconded by Cornnfssioner Fry and MOTION CARRIf:p (Commissioners Barnes~ Bushore a~d Tolar being absent) that [he Anaheim City Planning Cor~mission does hereby grant the requcst far waiver of minimwn number of parki~g spaces on the basls that the request is minimal ~nd the struclure is existing, Commissioner Kino offered Resolution No. FC)9-172 and moved for its pa~sagc and adoptio~ that the Anaheim Ci[•~ Planning fommission dot.~, hcreby grant petition for Conditional Use Permi t N~. 241C, su~_iect tc~ Interdepartmental Gc~mrni ttee Recormend~~t ions. On r~ll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the fryllowiny vot~~: AYES: COMMISSIONERS: DAVID, ~'RY, IiER85t, KING NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSEN7: COMMISSIOKcRS: QARNES, BUSHORE, TOLAa 8/27/79 ~. MINUTES~ ANAIIEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ AUGUST 27~ 1~~7~ 19-631 ITCM N0. 11 PUULIC HEARI-df:. OtIN~RS; n~~xsANn-tn nr~~ r,u~~TCa c. EIR NEGA IVC DCCLF~R,'1T10'~ JUNR~ 1>12 41est Cen~rr Strer.t~ AnahPim~ CA ~?7.~05. W111V'R OF ~DE: RE~~UI~tEr~E~.r ACCNT: RA!IUY C,. FtUCIIU~_TT, '~791 Yar~lley StrePt, C0-~J11~(Nl1L USE: RNIT NQ. 2~13 An.ihClm, CA ~?n~4. Petltioner rcr~ursis pr_rr~tssion tu ESTl1(;LIStf l1~1 AUTON~)E31LF REPIIIR F~CILIT'`f WITN !~A~V;.R OF NI'~I~~UM 1.11!~USC'+PF.D $CT[3ACi: nn nrcrpcrty vCSC~~tiCC~ c~S an irrr.~~ul~rly~5~1~'l~)CU (~lfCt•~ C1f ~,lnr~ C~fl',IS~~nt~ hf ~~~nr~~(r~otrlY ~.3 ~cre having a front,~~~~ nf a~Eiroxlc~:~t~ly ~J fr~+c c~r; ch~~ Sautl~ sldc ~f CP.I1C~'r 5trcrt, h~vinn a maximum depth ~f a~~mxir~ntcly 1~~ fc:~rt, hr_iny I~catrr+ ,ir~,rc>xim.~tciy 1!;') fret west of [hc cert~rllnr qf M~inch~s,tcr llvenuc~ and `,.r;h~~r ~1c~~c;rib~~~~ ,is 1~;'1~, Wect Centcr S[r~ct. Propcrty pr~s~ntly elas~si fie,f r~L (1riU~.~STRl~1l. LIMit[.i) ;(1!IL. There was no unr indicating thci~ pre~~:~~n,:c in c~ppo5ltinn to subjrcf request ancl ~~1e1~,~~uyh the st~:ff repp~l to the f 1:-nninc~ C~~m~n1551~>n dal~d August 27, 1979 wi~; nut rrad ,~t tf~c publ ic he~iring, it i, referrcri tc~ and made i p<irt c~( the minut~~5, Randy 9ucholtz, aycnt, st~tcd it i~; hi5 ~ii•~.ii~~ tu opcn a tr~nsrni,.ion shc~p in thc ML zc~nr.; that there is ~~ wrec:kinq yci~~.1 adjicc~ne which coul,l be cunsi~lerrd r~~tail rind tf~er~,.--re retail operations aeross thc ~.trce:; ~h~~ thi s wi I; t,e~ .;smal I, (ami ly-tvpc~ upcrition, He: statcr'~ th~ staff report i!~~ntion5 plantc• are~is <incl pc.7intcci out this pr~~~erty i~s one uf thc b~st. looking propcrties in thc nrca, H~ rc~f~~rr~~~f to th~~ rcyuir~~nu~nt f~:~r tr~~sh stcir~qe arc~~s ~nd indicated he w~5 planninq to pl~i:c• th~~ ~.fump~.t~r in.idc th;~ shc~p ~C!r~uStt aQ, of th~ old transmission partS are nx~tal ancl pruplc ;~ur~h,~5c them.and pt~inted out ttie wrc+cking yr~rd ncxt door h,iti oi I,and ~~`; qral lari c1ru~~s wi:h ~.hc tups c.ut ~~pcn all ;vrr lh~~ ar~a, THE PUBL I C HEAit ING WAS CLOSE D, '~C~: Ccxnmissioner Y.inc uffer~r~i ~i m<~tiun, sercmclecl by C~~rrn,is~.i~ner Fry arid MC~TIpN CARRIED (Commissioners ~i~irnes, l~ushure nnd T~,lar belny .~b5cnt) th~~t the ~,r~ahtim City Pianiing Commission has rc~~iewed thc propos.sl tc, perrnit ..in autor,x~hi Ic repair faci lity in !ne h;L (Industrial, Limite:d} ~c~ne „ith a w~lvr.r vf minimurn I:~ndsc<pe~i tietbac:k on ~+n irr• gularly- shaped parcel of land concis[iny c~f appruxirnately (1,,j icre, haviny a frontage of ap~roxi- mately 97 Feet on the south sicte c?f (:c~nlc~r Strc•~:.•t, havinq a n~x,imum dr.pth nf ap'.~roxi~nately !SS fcet and btrinq lor_atcd apprc~ximatcly I~0 fecrc west of thr., c.entrrline ~~t Mar.:hester Avenue; ~nd dces hereby approve the Neqat ivr Dc:c lar~~tivn f r~.~m thc~ requir~ nent L~ prepare an enviranment.~l in~p~ac;t repurt nn thF~ h;~~;15 t.h~t therc vrvul<i bc no siqnific.an' individual or cumulat;ve adverse cnvironmentaf impact due tu the approv~l of this Negati~e Uer.laration since the Anah~~im General Plan dcsignar.c•s the subject property for gencral indus[rial lar}d uses cor-xn~nsura[e wi th the proposal ; that nu sensi t ive env i rornnenlal imp~~cis are 'snvalveci in chc propasal, ,hat !he Initial Study submittcc.i by the petitioner indicates no signifi,:art individual or curnul~tive adverse envirorn~eneal impr~cts; and that the Negati~re Declaration substnntiating the foregair.g finding, is r~n f;lr in the f.ity of Anaheim Plz,nning I)epartment. Commissioner King offercd a aiotion~ ,econded by Commissioner Fry and MOTION CARRiEA (Corrr~iis- sioners 8arnes, fiushore and Tolar beinq absent) th~[ th~~ An~helm Cicy Pl~r~ning Corrr~ission does hereby grant the rrquc~st for waivrr of code requirt~ment on the basis of thc~ size and shape of the property and denial dcprives the property of privileges enjuycd by oth~r property under identical zar~ing ~_lassifi~atian in the~ vicinity, Annika Santolahti~ Asst. Oirectar fc,r Zoning,statQd thc pekittoner 5hould contact Sanitation Division and discuss his plan for irash ~torage with lhem~ and the condition sh~uld remain, Mr, Bucholtz sti~ulated fhat rne dumF~ste~ wauld ren,~in inside~ exc~pt c~n pick-up days, and the owner of the building has indicated he will build whatever is requireci if there is a problem and the dumpster has ta be kept outside. S/27/19 ~ .~ t~. MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PI.ANNING COMMISSION~ AUGUST 27, 197g 79-~32 EIR NEG, DECLARATION, WAiVER OF COOC RE~UIREMEN'f 6 GUNDITIONAL USE PF.RMIT NQ~ 2013 (continued) Commfssioner King offered Resolution Nc,, rc~9-17~ and moved for its passage and ~~cioption tht~t lhe Anaheim C(ty Planning C~mmtssion does hcrc~by qr~nt Petltlan for Conr.lltio~al Use Permit No. 2013, subject [o Interdepartmental C.~rnmitt.ee RFCCxnmendations. On ral 1 cal I~ the: foregolnq rc~soluti~n was passed by ehe fol lowinq v~~te• AYES: COMMISSI~NCRS: Dl1VID, FRY, NEi'~35T, Y,ING NOES: COMMI5~11)NERS: NON~ ABSENT~ COMMISS~ONEZS: BARNES, ~USHORE, TQLAR I TEM N0, 13 PUHL 1 C HEAR I NG. ~~WNER : TR ~ PLi. N IAND COMI''ANY ~ EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION C.~liforni<i fedcr.~l Et~.~il~iinU, 56~J~ 600 Ncirth Euclid WAIVER OF CODE P,EQUIREMENT Str~et, Anahei~r., !:~ 92801, AGC.NT: ,JLP F'ARTNEP,SHIP, CONGITIQNAL USE PERMIT NO 201~> cio Lani~~i (.omp;~ny~ l.td., 1090 North ~'cs~.ern Avenue~ •~7.04, San Pedro, :~1 90~' ~1. Pct i tloner r•aq~~~sts pes•mission to ESTABLISN A COMMERCIAL OFFIC~ ~DM4'LE~+ ~11TN WnIVER OF MINIM~~M Nl,'MBEK UF PARKING SPACE.S o~i property :.lescribe~d as an irr~~q~ arly-Sh~perS parcel of land consl~ting of approximately 5.7 acres localed ,a[ ;.he southwc~ti~ >rner ~,f sall kua;f and ~~arbor Boulevard, hav ing approx imat.e f rontayes of 360 feet on th th ~~ d~~ c,f 8a 11 Road a~~d 2,10 fcet on the wesi sid~ ~f Harbor Roulev~r~i, and furthcr dr ~~~1 ,~• 1711 South N~rbor Eloulevard, P~pperty presently r_lassified C-P(Coiixt~rr_ial, Rc~reat -~ nc~. There ~~ere approximately fivc persons indi,. •~ prestncc~ in oppositlon tn sub'ect request and al though the staff r~~pc}r t r.o t~-- ~^ ,~~ ~:omr tss lon dated August 27, !9~19 wag not rcud at the p~~blic hear'inq, ic + • ar,d made a part of the minutes. larry Jett~ representiny JLP Pt~rtnrrshi triangul3r~Shaped parcel .~t 8a` 1 Rc~ad ~,r~ a mixed use of office building and two ~- zcning was approved in the 196p's by ~~~~• ment on the property and,with +:hc app nv would be acceptablc; that ehe i:ity 1~.~f~ the 5ite cff Harbor Baulr~vard .~nd pr~ccr~' the site off Harbor Boulevard ;~nd F3al ~ Rc-~ thev would like into the site and r, r~~~ prevent left^hand turn op~~crtunitie~ .th.,! hand turn action ta two, a ~~~•y are proposinc~ c~evelc.-prient o(' the '~~ulev~r~i anci thc Santa Ana F ri~eway wi th ~~ ,, that it is r~is ur,dersta~diny that the ~ ~~nahcim which ~Ilov+~d a restaur~nt develop- ~ unditi~nai use permit.an ~~f(icE develqpment ~ ~rer has reconmendeci a lcft-hai~d 'urn intp ~ ~~•re arc lg potential ~eft-hand ~har~ces into an:; wi th th~e traffic pattern of ingr~ss and egress -+~; a r~ i sed med i an on both Narbor and ;ia ) I to ~~+ c~r rs~y not bc safe, wau Id reducP the le~ft - Mr. Jett stated they ~re dlsu concErr.cr~s ti~ ause '~ere is existing on Che property a transient recreaticnal vehicie p,rk, w~tl, ~pprex,rnatrly 9- spaces and thc peeale live there a~ a manth - to-R~nth basis; however, thc~re are 8 fa;ni ies who live there more or less on a~ermanenc basis; that if the plan i5 .~pp~C)VP.C~ toda~, he anlicipates it wtll take 4[o Fi month~ before they could begin i~n5tru~ti.~n; that their plans are co~~p!eted in concept, but sprcific working drawings h~,vc not bequ~~, ~nd that~hopefuliy~thosc permanent families, al[hough this is a transient pa*k, will n~,vc sufficient tirn~ in thosP 4 to 6 months to find o[her pl~ces. He refer red tc~ t~e pa ~~4. i nq tipace r equ i rcn~nt for 407 spaces and exp 1 a+ ned thry a re p rov i d i ng 387 spaces a~d, n adCitlo~z, th~~re is room for 9 spaces wl'-ich would not rr~et the ~inimum requirements, brinqdng the tot~;l to 396 spaces. Ne stated mast of the parking ne;c~ts of the two re,taurants, one being a dinner• house, wouid be in the ev~ning after 5~30 p.m. an~i it is possible anci reasonabie that the two restaurants would draw from the offfce uxnplex and those cars would already be there~and h~e felt the 396 spaces will be mare than ade~uate. 8/27~~ 79 "~. . ~ MINUTES~ ANANE~M CITY PLANNING COMMISSiON, AUGUST 27~ ~979 79-633 EIR N~G. DEC~, I~AIVER OF CODE REQUIREMEN7 6 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0, 2015 ~continued) He ~tated both tteir architer_t and craffic engineer ore present ta answer any questi~ns. Rac~~ael Hartmond stated she has lived on thls property for 21 years an;i exper.te:d to live thr~re until she wa~s qone sane place else where she cauld not be chased out; that sh~e r~.ceived this n~[ir.e and has an older mobile hcxnP and has tried to finr~ another plac~, but is told that th~r.y do not want oldcr trailc:rs and older people and that she has been told that several t'mes; cl~at she has triec~ to find anather place becausr .he unders~tood she would b~ chascd uui; chat even an old horse is put aut to p~~ture and they du not evzn have that opportuni~'y ~~nd ~re being knoc.ked out likc a bunch of g~~rb~qe ~nd she did not think that is Eair, Shr_ ,[ated six months means nothing becaus~~ she has tried to find another plac:e for a year•; that they arr_ :.Itlzens Iike cvcry~nc elst~ and thouqht it w~is h-vh time sort-r.une does something for the older pcoplc, ; im Moore, Flrea, representing hi, rno[her wh~ lives in that Yrailer p~r~., stated he ha~: been trying for the last 1G year5 to get his mathc.r moved; that sFic hciy a'S9 trailer and no one will take hrr; that he has Ir~oked in Bucna Park, Brea, La -+abra, 4lhictier, etc; that she is on a fixed inca>>e with a sm.~ll savings account anA cannc~t _yet into a new trailer park on that type of irica~~c. Carrie Surburg st~~icd shc l ives ~t the park and fias be~en ther~~ for about 10 years; that she 1 ikes the a.ncrs, but has~in oldcr nwbi le honk~ and wi 1 I not bc ~i~.cepted in another park; that she exper_ted to li~ie t.here for a long time yet and i, concerned about what will happen to her. Robert Hanmt~nd, ~237 Marlborough~ representing his m~ther (Rachael) stated he [ake~ care of his muther, but does not have a permanent plac:e for her; that he understai7ds there is ,r,rt-e housir~g in zhe City~ of AnaheEm fur srnior ci*.izens nnd asked if there is a possibility the:~e people could be relocate;l t!ir.re within the next six mc~nths, indicating he understand~; there is a two-year waitiny {is[, Acting Chairman Herbst replied there is a two-year waitir~q list for that camplex and stated, ~mfortunately,we do not have enuugh h~usiny of that type in the C~ty. Mr, Hamrt+~nd stated his moth~r a~ould be willing to sr_11 the trailer and move, tsu[ she does not tiave a place to go; that she is 81 years old and he <iicln't know what she is going to do, Annika Santalahti~ Assistant Director for Zoninq, scated the residents can yet information from the -~ousing Authority which is located acros~y the stre~t, Cyril Surberg, r~presenting his mother (Carrie)~ stated he is not against progres5 and is presently a resident of thc City af Santa Ana~ but formcrly an Anahcim resident; that A~aheim is a very gooci~ grc~w[f~-oriented town, but th: lives of the eight pernwnent residents, as we11 as the 2G mo~thly reside~ts~ should Fie cons~dererf; that the plan fo~• che developmen[ of the area is yood~ but most of these residents arr_ el~icrly on fixed incomes and rna~y have physical disabiiities and there is not another park in the :.ounty which will ~ccePt these pep,~,~e end trailers, knowing l'~ey arc older; that his moth~r is not ~ilcr,red to have fire insurance on her traller because af its age and he did not think another park would take her in knowing she does not have a~equate insurance. Hc felt this iS a;ituation d~aling with human lives in the nan~ of progress and there is a 1ot to be said for the senior citizens. and this project wi11 physically remnvr. peaplc from their i~~xnes. Ne ssked i f a c itizen~ tax-payer and vocer shoutd be denied the right ta live in ttieir home and be denied Lhe rlght to reloc~te the home. He. stated typically as a person gets older and into the waning years of life, ~hey beiieve they cannot beat cisy hall, and a lat af them did ~ot want to come to the meetin~~ t~ecause. they figured it wes a waste of time. He stated hc had r~viPwed the pl~n 8/21/19 ~ ~ MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AUf,UST 27, 1919 19-634 EIR NEG. DEC.~ WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT, CONDITIONAL USE_PERMIT N0. 2015 (continued) and staff report and felt everythinc~ is pretty well laid out relating ta left tu~ns, the medians, etc., but nothinc~ mentioned the people; and asked if these people will be reim- bursed for the expense of rrnvinq; that he felt this is a beautiful plan, but chr..re is a lal more that needs to be considered. He presented profile sheets on somc of the residents showing names, ages~ monthly inc.omes, source of inc~me, how I~ng they have been in the park and hc~w long they have becn c~tiacns of Anaheim; that most are 60+ years old a~d have been there ~ver 10 v~ars; tha[ if the Cor-missioner~ could put thernselves in his ~pot and repre.sent their mother in a similar ~ituation, they wc~uld fe~~l thc same way he does and would l~kc to see thc same resul ts. Pat Kish, 1400 pouglas Road, Spate 90, Anaheim, stated shp spoke to the Cortmission ~~ few rnonth~ ago relative to the zoning changes allowing mobile hon~e subdivisions wi[hin the City ~~d at that tin~e much was braught to the CO~Y111551Uft~S attention reyarding the necessity for "own your own lo[" rr~bi~e home living, and reasons cited were the increases in rcn[s and the problem faced hcre today of people being dislocated from the honx~s they expeeted to live in until the end ~f their d~~ys. She stated the Planning Commission and CitY Council were very responsive and as a result "nwn yaur own loc" living is allowed; that [he CountY of Orange will hav~: :his before the Board in matter of one or two weeks; that in nw~ny c~ses "biq business" has forgotten how to deal with the people; th~t she is sure if the devclopers had met and con5ulted with [he peoplc in the park, whether there werc eighl or eighty, prior t~~ che dealings, and taken into considcra- tion the ~055~hIQ detrirt~en2al effects to these phople and intelligently planned sarr~ kitld of relocatiori pr~gram, thcre would nnl b~ any opposilion present today. Shc urged the Comnission to review the rsasons cited for the code changes ~~~~d ~pply them to this sicu~tion. She felt the residents would be morc than willin9 to meet with thc developcrs and hoped an equitable program can be worked c~ut for all; that these peaple have been loy~l citizens of the community and had every rea!son [u b~iieve they wuuld live in their hames ~ndcfinitcly; that they have been allowed to be independent and wish ca rernain so and if yovcrnnxnt is instrumental in takiny independency away from the clderly, we are, indeed, ~n a h<~d situaiion. Mr. Jett stated their company does not wear black capes and they do have mothers and stated he ~9id nat know how to answr,r th~~se questians, but thcy do carP for thc pcoplr.; that it is his i.m dcrstanding that the park was originally dr,tiiyned as a tran5ient par~c and it was not specifically meant for lon_y-term use. He stated he understands indet~endcnce because his mother lives by herself and prefers to do that, but that [hc property owner has right~ too. ~nd they are in the business of developing real esiatc and that is how he ~~rn5 hi5 livelihood and he has six kids; that they want tc~compfetethe developme-~t but could not say th~~t they will take care of people ~and he does not know what the answer is. He stated he is willing t~~ work with the r~sident5 and help in ~ny mannPr he can, but do~5n't knaw the cost af new mobile homes and did not think it is fair for an individual developer to put up the buildin9s and improve the City streets with curbs and gutters and new st~eet li9hts, etc., ar~d have io be ~oncerned about the lives of eight people who want a place ta iive. He stated although th~ Corrmission has much concern with human life, as wel~ ~s maintaining the G~cneral Plar. for the City, he did n~t think it is within their responsibility to solve this kind of pr~blem. Acting Lhairman Ne~bst siated the re.sponsibility starts with the Planning Commission and then goes on to the City Council. Mr. JCtt stated they woulcl li~e ta do ,+hat they can~ ~~ut still felt tl~ey have certain rights as a p~operty c~wner; that they are not 'big business", and that he doe5 thinlc it is tirr~ to r~ve a~d fs ope n for suggestions. THE pUBLIC NEARING WAS CL'?SED. $/27/79 ,~ ~r MINUTES, ANANEIt1 CITY PLANNI4G COMMISSION, AUGUST 27, 1979 /9-635 E I R NE~OEf, . WA I,~[ER OF ~,OOE ~tEQU I REMENTj CON~ 1 T I ONAL USE PCRM I T N0. 20 I 5( con t i nued) Acting Chalrman Herbst stated one of the mein s(te developmen[ probloms rolates to the left-turn problaa~ and asked Paul Singer, Traffic Enginaer ro discuss his recommendation. Coomissio~er Fry left the Council Chamber tempora~ily and di::cussion was del~yod until he returned. due to lack of a quorum. Mr. Singar stated hls recomnendation is t:hat, if at all possibl^, there be no laft turns permitted across Ball Road and Harbor Boulavt~rd for obvious reas~ns; however, if the Planning Commission wishes,For reasons other than craff(c consldar~tlons, to permit a left turn access, then the access will bo substantially as shown o-~ th., plans, with r,oc1(ftcaC~ons, to be established prlor to tho finaf plan preparation. Acting Chairman Herbst clarifiod chat Mr. Singer fecls, in his expertise, that ~ left- turn pockot can be c~esignec! that will be reascx~ably s~fe to make the pruject viable, and Mr. Singer indicated that was corract. (Acting Chairman Herbst pointed out to the ~etition~r that tlir. turns as shawn on :hc plan are not adeq~~tc.) Mr. Jett st~ted Mr. Sinyer had made madifir.ations to the plan ~t the staff ineoting last Monday and alsu raisad the center r,edinns, and statcd that tl~a*. plan wcwld t;e satisfactory to them. Acting Chairman Herbst stated hc i~ going to make a reconmandation to staf'f tF~at thcy study the possibflity of allowing a certain numbcr of parking stalls for compact cars in these types of situatiuns, as long as they can bc controlled. Mr. Jett stated there are a number of bea~~tiful trecs on the site and they have hired a landscape archltect who has designad around certain existing trees, and if the grading plan can be accomplished and they can bring thuse spaces up to an acc~ptablo compa:.r size~ thos~ trees can be retainod,a if the trees cannot bc saved during tl~e grading, ~~ tree could be planted in that four-foot ~rca. I~e felt wlth Lhe two restaurants, there will be enough people frorn the officc complex patronizing the restaurants who are alre~dy there ta alleviate any parking probioms. Acting Chairman Herbst stated he Is studying this situation in depth and as ti>.ne goes on, cars are getting smaller because of the fuel situation, but it has to be properl•~ designed and the spaces are approxlmate~y 16 feet in width, versus 19 feet ror standard size cars~ and stated angled parkir~y can be narrower, f~e explained at the present tima w9 do have a specific orcfinance roquiring regulation spaces; and that employeas could have assigned canpact parking spaces which would not be utill~ed for in and out customers such as the restaurants, and felt it would be viable with so~~e type of control. Mr. Jott asked if the plan could be approved as submitted sub,iect to the condition that the final site plan bs designed for a certain number of compact spaces after stuclies havo been comploted. Bob Garsteen, architect, 3tated there are several options~ one bting that during the process of the f1na) precise drawings, tha develop~r can work with the staff and Cammission and bring forth additianat ideas regarding use of compact space~ and saving exiscing trees. Actlny Chairman liarbst statad there ara several people present and ~heir problems should be discussed; that this is a va~y e~noiiona) problem and both stdes have very deop Feclings; that we cannot stop progross and F~e scognizos that as iong as ho has been a Cam~issioner, this site has been a transient-type trailor park and ther~ a:e not supposed to ~iA any 8/27/79 ~ ~ MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AUGUST 27, 1979 79-E36 EIR NCG. DEC.. WAIVER _OF_CODE REQUIREMENT, GONOITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 201 (continued) pormanent residents living there, havover, this has happened; that tl~o Gommissfo~ is charged with lend assembly and zoning and are n~t supposed to bo involved in tha economics af a proJact; tliat thi5 is not similar to the condom(num conversion proJoct~ whe~o the style of liv(ng is not actually changod, but,in this instonca~ people ara actually being physicelly removedfrom thefrhames end it is part of the Commissio~'s responsibility to ask the doveloper what ktnd of assistance he can offer the~o paople in helping them to reiocato; and pointed out there are somo assistancd program~ available through tho City's Housing Depertment. Mr. Jett stated he d(d not want r.o sound harsh or insultiny and asked if the problem is whether or not. thn tenants want to mova or stay in this location,or whether it i, really a probidm oi' gatcing there. (Mrs. N~mmond stated from the audlence th3t other mobile ~~omo parks will not tako older trailers and older people.) Mr. Jett stated his mother i~ 71 yoers old and tie is awaro of the problern of wantina to ba independent because she livos in an apartmanc; that maybo the problem is a~onoy ~rablem. Commissioner David asked Mr. Jett if hc had l~ad a cha~ce to t~lk to the resident~ and Mr. Jett repliod that it isn'C fhat he tiasn't haJ a ch~nce, but he h~sn'tgp~~ken individ- ually to them; th~t the presant property ownors have known most of these people for a long tlme and he has discussed the situation with thom; that ha knows the basic agos which is a factor, and also ana[her factor is that most o~ the homes are eiyht feet wide and it is hard to find another ~oGile home park which will allow thom. He asked if there nre any new projects coming up similar to what wa~ r~~entianed earlier in :he City of Anahafm where thtsre is a 2-yeor walting list. (Acting Cheirma~ Herbst repliod hc: ha~; nnt heard oF any ncw senior citizen housing Nrojects.) Commissioner pavid stated he fel[ Chere is a moral obliyation and it is [hc resp~~nsi~bility of el[her the owner or the develapr.r to talk to these peaple~ even thaugh they moy noG h~ve a legal right Co i~ve tharc. Ne stated it ~ppears Mr. Ject is taken by surprise and felt soma typo of alternatives ar sugges.tions mus[ have been co~~sidered prcviously. Ho stated it is vary clcar chat Mr, Jett wants to buy the pr~perty a~d chere is no quR~stion that he has thr, right to buy it, but felt you cannot }ust say to sc~neone who has lived r.he~e for 71 years that the propcrty has heen sold, and fclt a lot of things cp ulu have beon ironed out by comrnu~itatian. Mr. .Jett pointed out one ~f the tenants had indic3ted sho had knvwn something was hap~entng for about a year and stated he did not think any ~f the partners in thP Triple H Partnership has triad to hide the fact from the tenants that so n~thing is gaing to t~appen. ~1e stated one of the problems in our society is whon a person turn~ a cer•tain age, especially w6th the es~calating cost of things, it becomes more difficuit to liv~ month to month~ and asked if that is the devalop~r's problem,and explaincd the developer is required to pay a lot of fees to thc City. liQ stated he 1s resisting what Canmissloner David is saying because he wants the problem to be the problem of the City, aa well as the developer, Cartunissioner David statcd the profiles present~ad indicate that the tenants were n~l even notified and Mr. Jett stotod he would be willing to bet that although thore wes no specific nottfication u~til the notice of this hearing came in the mail~ that some of ths L'enants had a qood idea somethinq v~ds happening~ especially whcn tfiey saw the sails engineering rig on th~ s~te digging tost borings, end also the awners have never denied that scxnething was going to happen. A gentleman from the audience stated when the su~vey team was surveying in the area~ a local resident asked what was going o~ and was informed that a new map was boing made and not to worry abaut it. 8/27/79 ~ MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AUGUST 27, 1979 ., _: 79-6?7 EIR NEG. DEC.. WAIVER OF COOE REQUIREMENT, CONQITIONAL USE PERMiT N0. 1015 lcontinued) Mr. Jett stet~d thls is a typlcal answer g(ven by survey crews when thero is an existfng use similar tc~ this ~n the property end tho crew does not want to get ~n~o diycussions with the resldents and tho property owner would not want him to~ and it is possibie that is what happened; that the tenan~s should have talked to the managors ur pro porty owner. Ha askad if tho Triplo H people have ever seid that this ~ark will remein a park for~ver~ Acting Chairman Herbst st~ted he recog~izes Mr. the type of assistance ho can givo theso peaple requiring relocation assistance whon people aro ordinence at the present time; hawever, he felt of the property ownor to holp tho5e people, but authority to require it. Jett is baaki~ig 3round tho bush rogarding , And stated ~3 lot of cltiec hav~ ~rdinances displaced~ but Anaheim does not have an thero is a moral obligation on the par•t the Planning Commission does not have the Mr. Jett steted they arc not againsC helping these pooplc+~ but want to know what tha help has to bo a~~d asked if it means making a trua effort to find other places, p~inting out these poople have mentioned trytng to find their own pl~ces and stated he knows it is hard to get an eight-foot wide tr~.iler into a naw park; and stated they would guarantee this kind of help and check into ~~,~:~e parks t~ determine whothe+r thero are pi~ces thay can movo; and stated they would work witl~ the City in whatevQr manner, but it corttes back to tha prablem of what will heppen if' theso things do not work. Acting Chairman Narbst stated he understands have to act on wh~t is befora then, and send and lot thom datermine wh~tlier or not thore in helping thESe people relo~;ate. the prvblems and stated the Commission will it on ta the City Councll for ~ecommendation should be a definite sxpense by tha dev~loper~ Jack White, ~eputy City Attorn~y~ explained the dccision of the Planning Commission on this item will be final unless it is appealed bv either the ap~licant or anyone else who is a9yriev~d by tho decision. Mr. Jett stated ha would be willing to sit dvwn with the eight famiiies involved to find out what the problems are and what th~ay can do befare the City Counc.il meeting. Commissioner David explained tFa t any a~e of the eioht famtlies i-~valvad could ~ppeal the de~tsion and explained to the opposition if the Gomntssion rules on this rEq~e st anci it is heard at thfl Counctl and the N.oblQms are presented, the Counr:il has the authority to requt~c whatever they wish. Acting Chairman ~'~~~st ~xplained this situatlon has never bQen Jiscussed b~fore; that mAybe one hom~ has bee~ involved whore a property has becn sold~ but the problem of displacing this rnany psopl.r living thdre !~a~ ~ever come up; that candominium convers6nns have been approved. Mr. Jet~ stated if the Planning Commission approv~s the plan, he is not going to appeal Et, which means onc of tt+e re~id~nts will have to appeal it~ but that he wilt sit down and discuss tha probltm and Seo what they can or ~an~ot do to help, and if they do not li{.r what they hear, they can appeol to Cpuncil. Annika Santalahti~ Asst. Director for Zoning~ stated this problem has bee~ discussed with the developer; that thdre has bean some relocation invalved 'n the Redevelopment Agency and it involves mo~dy or possi~ly reloceting them to anot'~r park, and suggestod th~ developer iook around and seo what t-e can ftnd in the area~ but if he can coma up with some legitimato locatior~s which are reaso~able~ ha cr~ld proposa Lhat ~s a solution, or 8/27/79 ~y MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ AUGUST 27, 1979 79-638 EIR NEG. QEC.. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREh1ENT. CONQITIONAI. USE PERMIT N0. 2~1~(continued) elternatively provida spaces on•sito. She statdd she dtd not know tf any City staff has dealt with othor moblle home parks tn th(s kind of situatlon, and the Radevelopment Agancy staff has wo~ked with epertments,which is dlffArent. She felt if tho decislon is appealod to the City Council. it would behoovc tho devoloper to ha~e looked ot cartain solutions. Acting Ch~irm~n Nerbst stated he wc,uld tnik to members ot the City Council and ask them to ramove tha item for thofr own investiqatlon bP~ausa it is a prablom the Plonning Carxnission has never had bafora. Mr. Jett suggosted tliat he wc~uld moot with the familics and try to work out something acceptdblo and thoy could thcn makc the docision whether they want to appea) or not. Acting Chairman Herbst stat~d tho Co~ncil may dacida to tr~ko the mAtter off and review it anyway becausa of the magnitude of tl~e s(te. Mr. Jett urged the Commisston to voce o~ tha pro,joct whtch will guar~nt~e tha matter baforo the City Council in 22 d~ys, and if hc does not work out an ~rrangoment with the tonants, they cAn appcal it. Acting Chairman Herbst suggested the dnveloper contact the Planning 6epartment staff and relata what has transplrod so that lie can contact thom for infarmation, Annika Santalahtl suggastod that informacion be furnished ~n what has been accomplished before the 22-.iay period so that that information can be provided t~ r.ho Council and tho ~ommission,and Mr. Jott stated a momber of the Planning Dopartment staff could attand the meet i ng w( th the tEnen ts or ho wou I d assume the rrts ~>or~s 1 b i 1 I ty o~ get t i ng someth (ng to them. ACTION; Ccx~missianer King offered a motion~ seconded by Gommissioner D3vid and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Barnes, Bushore and Tolar boing abse!nt) that tl~e Anaheim City Planning Commission has revicwed the proposal to peric,it a carmorcial office complex in the CR(Ccxnmercial, Recreational!zone with a waiver of r,inimum n~mber or parking spaces on an irregula~ly-shaped parcel of land consisting of apprnximately 5.7 aeres located at the southweat co~ne~ of Ball Road and Nart~or Boulevard, having a fr•ontage of approxi- matoly 360 feot o~ the south sidc of ~all Raad and 210 feet on the wcst side of Harbor Boulevard; and doas hereby approvP the Negativa Declaration fran tho requirement to prepare an environmental imp~ct raport on the basis that there would be no siyntficant individual or cumulative adverse environmeital impact due to the approval of this Negative Dacleration since the Anaheim Generat Plan dosignates the subject property for commercial- recreational iand uses commensurate with the prop~sal; that no sensitive environmental impacts are tnvulved in the proposal; that the Initial Study submitted by the pctitioner indlcatos no signiflcant Jndividual or cumulative adverse environmental impacts; •+~~d thAt the Negative Declara2ion substontiating the foregoing findings is on file tn the City of Aneheim Planning Dopertment. Commis~ioner King offored a motion, seconded by Cammissionor David and MOTION CARRIED (~Commissione~s Barnes, Bushore and Talar 6e ing absent) that the Anahei ~r~ Ci!y Planning Commission does hereby grant the roquest for waiver of the code requirement on the bnsis of the unusual shape of the property and small vehicles are gaining in use and 1BSS parking space is required,and on the basis that tha diff~;;nca is insignificant with 97°~, of !h~ requircd ps~king being provided. 8/27/79 .~, ' "~; MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AUGUST 27~ 1~79 79-639 EIR NEG. DEC.. WA11~F~R OF CODE ,~QUI MENT. CON ID TIONgI. USE PER~11T NO` 2015 (continued) Commissioner King offared Resolution No. PC79-175 and moved for its passage end ~doption that tha Anehelm Ctty Pla~ning Commission does hereby 9rant the Petition for Ca~ditional Use Permtt No. 2015~ subJe c t to the pe titioner's stipulatlo,~ th~at the ctrculetion pattern is sub~ect to approva) of the C(ty Treffic Engin~,ar~ and subject to interdepartmental Cammittee Recomnendetions. On roi) call~ the foragoing resolutlon was passed by tha following vote: AYES : COMM ISS I ONERS : DAV ID, FRY, HERBST , K ING NAES : COMM I SS I ONERS : NONE ABSENT : COMM 1 SS I ONERS : BARNES, BUSHORE , TOLAR JACk Whita, Deputy City Attorney, explained the decision of the Planning Carmission is final within 22 days. unlos s tho matte r is appealed to tha City Council. Ann i km Santal aht i e: .>1 a(r-ed tha proper ty ownars And tenants v~( 1 1 be not i f ted of the City Counctl hearing. (TEM N0. 14 PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: MARILYN AND JERRY I, EIR CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION-CL.ASS i GOQDWIN, 11142 Fenwick Piace~ Sant~ Ana; CA 92704, CONDITIONAL USE PERMtT N0~2016 Petitioner roquosts permiss(an to INSTAL.L ROOh- MOUNTED SOLAR f,OLLECTOR PANELS on property described as an irregularly -shapod por cel of I~nd consis~ting af approximately 1.5 acres having a frontage of approx imately 693 feet on thd north and west sides of Peralte Nills Drive~ having a maximum de p th of approximately 410 feet, baing located epproximately 950 feet south oF the centei'lin e of Santa Ana Canyon Road, vnd furthor descrtbed a~ 260 5outh Peralta Hills Drive. Property presontly classlfibd RS-HS-i+3.000(SC) (RESiOENTIAI, S INGLE-FAMiLY N I~L51 DE-SCEN IC CORRIDOR OVERLAY) ZONE, Tl~ere was no onn (nd tcati ng thei r presence in o~ppos i t ion to subje ct requ~st and at though the staff ~eport to the Ptarning Commission dated August 27, 1979, woa not read at tho publ ic hearing~ it is refe~rcd to and ~~ade e p~rt of the minutes. THE PUBL I C NEAR I NG WAS CLOS ED. It was noted the Pl~nning Director or his auihorized representative has dekermined th~at the proposed project f alls within the definition of Categorical Exemptions, Glass 1, as defined in Paragraph 2 of the Clty of Anaheim Environmenta! lmpact Report Guidelines and is, therefore~ categor+cally axempt from the requiremenr to Pr~pare en EIR. Commissioner David oftered Resoiut(on No. PC79-176 and moved for its passaga and adoption thar. the Anaheim City Plan ning Ca-mis sion does heraby grant the Petition for Conditfonal Use Pe~mit No. 2016, subjeet to Intardepartmental CamnEttee Recomr~endations. On roll call,ihe foregoing resolution was pesse~ by the following vote: AYES: COMW{SSIONERS: DAVID, FRY ~ Fi~RBST. KING NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE ABSENT; COMMIS510NER5: BARNES, HllSHORE, TOLAR Acting Chairmen F~srbst of fered a motion, seco~ded by Conmissioner King ond MOTION CARRIEO (Cannission~ers Barnes, Busho~e e~d Tolar being abaent) thet the Anaheim City Plar~ning Commission does hereby re cartimend to t he City Council that the ordinance requi~ing a 4onditionei use permit for roof-mounted solar collector panels and related equ~p ~~t i~ the Scenic Corridor Overlay 2ane be re~cinded. 8/27/79 ~ , ,~ MiNUT~S, AI~ANEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ AUGUST 27~ 1~7g 19-640 ITEM N0. 1; PUfiI,IC IIEARIt4G. OWNER: DORIS f10DaS~ 12u00 Euclld E R NEG~TIVE DECLARATION Str~at~ Gerden Grov~~ C!1 ~12(~~i~. AGENT; VISTA DEV~{.~ i ~ L E F t0. ~_018 OPMENT CORP.~ 40Q1 alrch Street~ NPwp~rt Beach. CA 92660. Petltioner requests permission to CONSTRUCT A CONMERCIIIL OFFICE COMPLEX on property desc~ibed as an Irrcgulrrly-shaped parccl of land consistiny of npproxlmate~~ b,8 acres locatAd at the southwes t corner of Orange thorpe ~nd Reymc~nci Nvenues ~ havl n~ ~pr roxf m~te f rontages of j58 fec;t on ChP sauth s I~le of OrAn~~ethc,rpe Avenue ancf f,~ J fcet on the wcst s i de of Rayrx~nd Avenue. Property pr~sently classificd H~ (It~QUSTRIAL~ LIMITED) T.CNE. There wes no une indicating their presence !n opposition to subject raqunst and although the staff report to the Planning Commission dated August 27, 1979. was not read at the public hoaring, it is raferred to and n~ade a pa~t of the minutes. Phil G~.~y, Vico President ~r` Vista Developmant Corporation, stated thay propose two 45.~00 square foot~ two-story, walk-up, gardon-type offtce huildings on tho s(te. He referred to Condttion No. 6 pertaining to fire hydrants and painted out prese~ ly there is a fire hydrant on Orangothorpe and on Raymond frontag~s. (Ac.ting Chairman Harbst explained this is a stand~rd conditlon and if the Fire Department can be satisfiod, there is no problert~.) No referred to an orror in Conditior~ Na. 9 indicating it shauld read "..,.commercial office build(ng..." rather than "each new dwelling unit.." He referred to Condition No. 14 ~~~a Annika Santalahti, Asst. Director for Zoning~ explainad Condicion No, i4 should reaJ; "That Condition Nos. l~ 3, 4~ 12.,.." and Condition No. 1$ shauld rend; "That condition Nos. 2. 5~ 7 and 8,.." Mr. Gray reFcrred to rc~uirement for dodication on Oranyetrio~pe Tnd explained there is an existing recordcd easement for road purposes on C~~ngethor~e. Jack Judd~ Civil Engineer, expla~~~od if there is a recordod easement, there is ~o requirem~ont for dedication and th~t condition woi~ie+ be setisfied by the exi5cing easement. THE PUBLIC HEA.RING WAS CLOSEO. Cammissioner King asked M~, Gray if ho would stipulate to widening the proposed ~ccess drive- ways f~om 25 to 30 feet and Mr. Grey stated he wo~ld meke that stipulation end felk it woutd be benefictal Lo the project. Actiny Chairman Nerbst reforrad to a~ specific list of uses which have been allowed in office buildings to service the industria) area„and asked Mr. Gray if he had seen thAt I i st. Mr. Gray explained he had nnt sean the specific list, but ir his application had asked for the uses allowed in the PC zone, with the exception of retail uses and medital uses. since ot is quite obvious they could not allow medical uses becausa of t.he parking requirament~ and also retail comrnercial uses requiro higher parking. Annika 5antetahti, Asst. Director for 2aning, stated basicaily offtce types of acttvities ere allowed and explained the petitioner had identified specific usos ~ucF~ as industrial realtors, arGhitects, etc. She explained it wc~uld take a few mtnutes to Ering the filo up i~ order to review the specific list of uses ailowed at thn complox at State College and Ball Road, The haaring was temporarily postponed ~n order for s;aff to br~ng a file to tne Cau ncil Chemba~. (Gontl~ued on page 79-645) S~z7i79 ; MINUTES, ANANEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AUGUST 27, 1919 79'6~+~ ITEM NA, 1 REPORTS ANQ RECOMMENDATIONS 8, CONOITIONAL USE PERMIT N0, 1872 - Request for oxtansion of tlme by Rotiert L. Edwards, permtss io~ to reta t n nlne beeh 1 vas at 1500 W. Droadway. Therd were threo par•sons pr~sont indicat inq their desire to spaak in opposition to sub)e~t roquest ~nd although the scaf f rAport to the Plonn(ng Co~,mission dat~d August 27, 1q79 was not reod at th~ haaring, It (s rr.f~rred to a~~d madc a part of the minutes. Reverend Robert I.. Edwards, 94~ 5, David Street, Anahelm, stated he is keepin~ boes for Mrs, Schafer; that a pern,it was iSSUed lost year for one year, aftnr much discussion~because somecs~e had ca»plained; that it is the pol icy of the P 1 ann i ng Dep~~r tmont not to d i vu 1 ge the names of tha pe rsons complalning and felt if ha had known who had complain~d, he ~o~ld have solvad the problem; that there are other beehives in the area and there have been ccxnplaints of beQS swarn,(nc~ tr. the neighborha•,~d and that he and Mrs. Sch~f~r hava taken core of tFie swarms for the neigl~bors; thac bees •~hich are properly cared far c~n be controlled and will swarrn on tl~e praperty and the swarrns have not been from these bees, and stated they are i nnocent unt ( I proven gu i 1 ty, but tha t I~e and Mrs , Schafe~ are sons i t i ve to fhe prablems and wi 11 help anyone, Kaith Reitz~ 450 S. Gilbuck, referred to a tetter he had written on ,1une 30, 1979, opposing the rete~ntion of these beehives; that they a~e not oppos ing the swarmi ng and we re rot nwar~ [hero ha~e been swarms , bu t that they aro opposed ta the bees in general bocause Mrs. Reitz is deathly allerglc to the stiny and must have treatment within minutes after a sting; Chey they also have two smal 1 chlldren ~ho could passlbly be allergic to the bee sting, but the only way to ffnd out i~ ta sting thom. He stated they had pu rchased a home i n R I vc rs i d~ , bu t had to cance I the sa 1~e because the house was located in an araa with a lot of orange groves. and that they were not awpre of thesc beehives when thny purchdsed this property; [hat they purchasad the house because of the size of the backyard and thoy nead a larg9 area because thair son naeds phys ical exercise and room to jump and run and explore, but cannot be Icft w i tt~out acloquate sup~rvi s(on becauso of the bees. He explair~ed sevoral children and adult5 in the ar~a have been si~,ng, many several tlmes; that ono n4 ighbor had se t up a swiirming poo) in the backyard and there were 20 beas in the pool by the end of the dny because they are attracted to tho water. He stated they had enclosed a petition with their June letter containin, 42 signatures ask(ng for removal of tho boes, explaining they hed te 1 ked to ~6 p rope r ty owne rs a ~d 42 had s i 3ned th~e pe t i t i o~ . He s tated they a-n not ask i ng for dcs t ruct ion of ihe beos , but want them moved further away irom r~ residential aree becausn too r~any people are being stung. He pres~nted a copy of tho petitlon for th~ Commission's review, and also e mep of the tract shawing the loeatlsx~ of th~ bees in ralationship to their house. V i rg inla Vas i tou, 853 Rowson , Long Beach . mother of Mrs. Rel tz ~ stated she and her husband ~ept beas for sbout 2Q years and had becween 2,500 and 3,500 hivei in Utah; thet hivos can be in perfect condition, the weather ideal and every- thing exactly as it shouid be, and Che bees will swarm and yuu cennot ~ont~ol th~m; that the warker bees make the cho 1ce and may not I lke the queen and wi I I 8/2~/79 ~ ~ __.__~.~_.... ~ ~. .~~. ,,. ~~,-~ .w,,,.n. -,.,,. r.~.. ..--., .. , , . . , ,,, .. _. ~ ~ , ' M I NUTCS, ANANE IM CITY PLANN I NG C ahlM ISS I ON, AUGUST 27, 1979 79-642 REpORTS ANO RECOMM~NQAT I ONS . CON O IT I ONAI USE PERM I T N0,~1~ ( con t i nued) leave to flnd anothar home; thaL there are oround 5~-000 to 100,000 boes in a hi~~e, and 20,Op0 to 80.000 wil l ga out and work; that the summer be~s 1 ive 5 or 6 week~; ond ustng Chese tigures, muliiplied by 9 hives. there would bo approximately 450~000 dead workors, and statrd she has seen somo of thom in her• daughter's yard. She statod they had moved to Cal ifornia bacausa they thought wlth all the nctivities there would be fewer beos, She oxplai~ed lier daughter's reactian to a beo sting is thet she gAts a raddtsh-purple color wi~h blotches, then goes into a coma, and har throaC closes a~d sha nead5 oxygon,adrenalin, etc, and statod again her daugher rr-usc havn treatment irtrnadiately aftor tha sting~ and (~~lt thisisan extra disaster too closo to her daugher's home, She statod whon sho has baen to her homc, therQ hava been a lot of bees flying i n t.he are~~. Mrs. Scl~afer statad she is 92 vears old and has had bees since she was 35; thst she and her husband raised boes on this p;operty and they take care of their b~es; that tl~ey extimfrle the hivns overy month or six weeks and i f they have more than one queen, a1I but one Is removed bcc.iuse the bees wi 1 I not swarm i f they have onl y one queen. Reverend ~dwards stated Mrs. Scf~efer has had ba~s for over 50 years and the residences have been bu i 1 t s ince that t Ir,c . He expla ined she hes several f ru i t crees and avocado Lrees and seils ihn fruit and '+s dependent on the bees to pollinate the crops. Act iny Cha~ rm.an Herbst stated th i5 is o request for an exr.ens ion of t ima; thet the bees t~av^ be,en there fora lang tirne and the5e resident•, have movcA in; tha; he has 1 ived in Anaheim cnany years and has never lived where cherc were no bees. Ne pointed out it wos ~tated ~"~ar~ arr ocher hives in the qrea. Annii<u ':ant~lahti, ',ast. Oirector for Zoni~ .,, d a~ppruximately eiyht ycars ego the C? t,~ he4~~~ requ f'•o a~nnd i t' ~nal se pe rrn i t;, ~ ves and that zun i ng has bGen ; r, e f foi, t. s i nce 1951 ar~cl , h~re a re ,umbe r c r non-con form i ng h i ves wh i ch have been the re for a lo~g timc Ir responsc :o a~,~estion froR~ Ac.tfng Chairman Herbst, she statad the Commiss ia~i cc.uld sa hnv have g ~andf~ather r(ghts. Cammis53oner Uavid s[ated thG pther hort~es in this aroa are relatively new, compared with subject property~, and if ;here arc other hives in this area~ they are probabiy there ~llegally. Acting Chairman Nerbst stated if there are och~r hivas in the ~rea. th~re should be some way of tracKin~ then because he wo~:ld ~~ot want to tel l Mrs. Schafer xQ take out her bees, and th8n thc problom stitl Pxist because of other people's bees. Ha pointed out Mrs. Schafer is confprming by asking for pcrmisston, even [hough she has had them for 50 y~ars. Commission~r King referred to the potition signed by 42 people which indicates 1/2 of them have been stung at leost once. ~io asked how many htve~ witl be retained ? Rever~nd Edwards raplled they woa~ld like to liave nin~ hives ~nd explainad with the nuriber of fruit trees, she feels she needs 7. 8 or 9 t,ives. He stotod he could not respona to the cvr.ment that 1/2 of thase peop 1 e h~va been s tung a t 1 eas t o~ce ; and exp 1 a i ned i t i s true that bees need wator and are attracted to water and axplained they keep water in front of their hives an~ felt there could ba p~ople who do not provide watsr far their bees i n the a re~ . He fe 1 t i f t hese n i ne h i ves we re removed ~ the re wou 1 d s r. ~'' ~e a probi nm Ni th beas bacause otha r peop) e i n the ne ighbarhood have bees wh i ch :. a not be t ng kopt properly. 8/27/7g ',~ MINUTES, ANANEIM CITY PLANNING CO MMISSION, AUGUST 27, 19;9 7q-643 REPO_ RTS AND RE~OMMENDATIONS. COND1710NAL USE P~RMIT N0, l~ (continuad) Comrtiissioner David asked Raverend Edwards ko comment regarding pollination of the trees and tndtcated h~ dld not think the hives have to be located on the property in order for the fruit traes to be pollinated. He stated he was vory concerned about the effect on the on the nelghborhood~ referring to tho 42 signatures of people who aro obJecting to th~e keeping of the bees and who had bouglit their homes not knowing they would be subjected to tha boes. Reverend ~dwards stated he was bothered because the other people ~re not here. He felt he cauld go araund the nefghborhocd and get a lot of people to sign ~ petition saying th9y think the bees ~re aood. Cortxnissioner David stated the petition signed by these naighbors hes en effect on the decis(on the l;om~isslon m~~st make, and tlie petition indicates 1/2 of th~ people heve been Stung and steted he was very concerned and was not sure he co~~ld support an extension of time for thts conditional use permit. He added he wa,ld suppor~t o reasoneble amount of ttme ln order to allow for t'~e disposition of the bees in a safe and proper manner. Mrs. Vasilou steted they had put thelr bees out to pollinace applc orchards in Washington and alfalf'a fields in Utah and sometimes chey wu~:ld put 9 ar 10 hives in a whola larve orchard, end pointed out th(s property is ver•y S~n~~) in comparison. She stated ther~ are enough wild bees to pollindte things proparly without c~nfining a hivo under a tr'e that neods to be polli~ated. Mr. Reitz stated the sta[ement was n,ede that 1/2 of che people who signcd the petition have besn stung snd wanted to clarify that at least 1/2 of the pcople h~ had talked to h~ve baen stung at least once, if not more. and the people who live closer to the hives are being stung more repeat.edly, as much as two or three timos a day and pointed aut there are a lot of young children in the area who are being ~t.rnq as m~ny as four tin,os a day. Commissioner King asked Reverand Edwards if he had bees at any nther location and he raplied that he does not have any other bee location and exp'~ ~~Nd he is merely lceeping these bees for Mrs. 5chafcr. Jock White, D~puty Ctty Attorney~ asked Mrs. Sr.hafer how many years she had kept beas on this property and how many hives she has had in the past~ and whother or not the bees have been kept at the san~e locati~n an the property. Mrs. Schofer replied she had been keeping bees herc for 50 years or mor ; that she lost her husband 5 or 6 years ago and before he dle~c! they had hac- ~ any as 20U to 300 hives; that they had had 10 acres of property, and nuw have 8~ ~, and exptained that they had reduced the r,umber of hives to 50 beforo her husbane . Shr. explrinod the bees have been kept in tha same loc~:ion on the property. Mr. White stated he did not understand why a conditionai use permit was required ~~nis case because they have been keeping bees on tf,e property for fifty years and ther4 F,as been no intensification of the use and, in fact, the~e has bean a diminutio~ over thc last fiva or ten yeers. Acting Chairman Ile~bst stated he felt the~e were prabably some complaints in the past. He felt there are oxtensive grandfatl'~er rights hore. Rev~rend Edwards stated he has no placa to move the hive+s and explained he keeps the bees fo~ Mrs. Schafer and she sells the honey. 8/27/79 ~ :~ ~ 79- ~~- MINUTES, ANAMEIM CITY PLANNING CQMMISSION, AUGU5T 27. 1979 REPORTS AyD RECOMMENDATIONS CONOITIONAL USE PERMIT N0, 1872 (contir+ued) Commission~r Kln,q stated based upon what the City Attorney ho~ seid, he would offer a motton for a~pproval of the request for extension ~f tlme for f.onditionel Use Permit No. 1872~ for a period of one year. Mr. Nhito ~xplained the Commission could approve or deny the request, but he was not sure it cuuld be logelly terminated. He stated if the permit is not extonded~ the issue then becomas a qu~estion of gra~dfather rights. He stated if the Ccxnntssion is concerned about the grandfather r(ghts provision, they should not approve tho excension and the Legal Oepartment would look carefully into the grAndfather provisions. Commissioner Fry statod ho would like ta have the grandfather rigl~ts quast~on settled and then this requost would not t,e befU~e tho Canmiasion agatn, and Commissi~ner Ktng wlthdrew his motlon. Co!miissioner David fe1G thA qrondfather rtghts should be tosted. A ION: Commissianer David offered a rx~tinn tf~at the request for extension of time be denled on the basis of thc health~ safety and wolfere of the neighboring citizens and should be effective as deemeci reasonable. Jock White exploin~d thc motlon should bc for danial of tho request f~r extension ot' time and the next step would be a Lngal Department investigation as to whether or not there is a legal non-conforming use. Acting Chairman Nerbst stated this applicant had 10 acres of property and has been en- craached upon and has nnt sald her property a~d her use is agricuiturai ~end the bees are a part of that use; that it is very unforcunete for a person who has an allergy to bees, but did not think it is up to Mrs. Schafer to have to move be4ause she hasn't created the problem a~d she hes hod the beas thero for ovcr 50 years. He stated hA would not dany her h~er livelihood. Conrriss~pner DAVid stated '+t has not been established that this is M~s. Schafer's livellhood and Acting Chair~~an Herbst stated this is at least a part of her livetihood. pCTI.ON; Commissioner Fry seconded CoRmissioner David's mo[ion and MOTION CARRIED ~Caronissioners Barnes~ Bushore ~~nd Tolar being absent and Cummis~ioners Herbst and King voting no) that the roquest for extension ~f time for Conditional Use Pormit No. 1872 be donied on the basis of the health and safGty of the surro~nding neighbors. Acting Cheirman Herbst offered a muLion~ seconded by Cara~-issiondr King and ~10TION FAILED TO ~.ARRY (Commissioners Barr~es, Bushore and Tolar being absont and Commissioners David and Fry voting no} th~~t the request for extensi~n of time for Conditional Use Permit Nq. 1872 be granCed for a period of o~o year. Acting Cheirman lierbst explained this matter wiil automatically be continued two weeks to Septnmber 24~ 1979, because of a tie voto. Commissioner David r~ffored a motion, sea~nded by ~ommissioner Fry and MOTION CARRIEO (Com~issioners Barnes, Bushore and Tolar being absent)that c~nsideratiort of the request for extension of time for Conditional Use Permit 1$72 be co~tinued to the regularly schaduled meeting of Septomber 10, i979~ because of a tie votn. 8/27/79 .~ MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PLANNIItG COMMISSION, AUGUST 27, i979 79-645 ITEM N0. 1,~, (cant t ~ued~ ~fON~,ITIONAL USE P~ftMIT NQj 2018 Annika Santelahtl~ Asst. Director for 2oning. rnad the list of uses allowod in Conditional Use Permtt No. 1587 for t,hc fi~cility at Ketella and State College as follows; mo~tgage and f(nt~nce compenies, iRSUrance companias~ insurt~ncc ag~ncies and b•~okerag~ firms~ real estate flrms~ tltle and ascraw companie,, attorneys, c~rxified pubilc accountanks, ad- vert(sing firms~ ongineering firms, architects, merkoting resenrch, interior decorators, management consultsnts, travel agencias~ training schaols relatc+d ~ sales, promotfon, management. skills and advancom~ent. Mr. Gray stpted ha has no objer.tion to tha Ilst~ but fQlt cho area is dift'erent and asked tl~e~ el~ectronic and computer supporC typc industr(~s t,e aflawed since they are more prevalent i~~ Lhis r~rea. Acting Chairman Herbsc stated ~~y uses which would supp~~t the induscrial areA could be added to the list. Mr. Gray refarred to the c~ndit~~n and stated apprc~val is subJect ta the Pirnning scuff's review to make sur~ the uses ara c.onfor•~ning for tliis type of support. He stated the C(ty of Anahe Im requ i ~es ~a bus i ness i i cd~~se fc~r pec~p 1 a doi ny bus i ness i n t h i s c i ty wh i ch i s anoCher wey to cc~~[rui uses. He explained their ac~plicution requestAd uses normally allowed in the Cann~erc~A~ Professional tan~, with the exceptinn of retai) storas and modical offices. Annika Santalahti state~J i^~ practica, the Planniny staf~f does ask when a use is req~iestod that it be m~de in wr+tinq ~U it can becom~ a part of tf~e file bnd if staff hAS a problem w(th a use~ it is tAken to the Planning Corm~tssian ~3s a non-public hearing item in order to allow the ~pplicant an opportunity to makd his prescnt.cion, Mr. Gray explai+,ed R.hls is ~a spec buifding with no tenant5 at Chis time an~i that in other cities such as Santa An~ they have l~uil~ ct~~sr, shells af buildings and as tenant5 arc gotten. *.he requ~sts are madh <tind ga through f'1~anning tc~ determine that l~tiey are cdnforming uses, He stated he could 1 fva wGt~ tf;is 1 ist, i f electro~•ics and c.o~,qutr_r industries a~e added. ACTION: Cc~rrmissi~ner King offererl a mntion, saconQed by Cananlssioner fry and MUTION CARRIED Commtssioners Barnes. Bushore and Tolar bting absent) that Che Anahoim City Planning Commission has review~ed the proposal ta Nermit cons~ructicxi of a cc~nm~rcial office complax in the ML(Industrial, Llmitad) xona on an ;rregcalarly-shaped parcel of land tonsisting of approxirnataly 4.E acre~ located at the sauthwest corner ~f Oranqethorpe Avnnue and Raymond Avenue, having a frontage of oppraximatelY 35~ feet on the south s~de of Orangethorpe Avenue end a frontage of 607 faet on the west sido af Raymoiid Avenue; and does hereby approve the Negative Oeclaration from the requtrem~ent ta prepore an environmentol impact report on th~ basis that th~ere ~ouid bo no siqnifi.ant individual or cumulative ad~erse envirv nmental impact dua to the approval of this ~~egative Decla~etta~ since ihe Anaheim Generat Plan design~te:, the subject prc~erty for general li~dustr(ci land uses commensurate with the propos~l; that no sansitivd environmentel impacts era ?nvolved irz the proposal; that the Iritia~ Study sutymitted by the patitioner indicatos no si~niticant individuai or cumulative advbrse environmentol tmpacts; ahd that the Negacive Dcclaration substantiating the fore- going findi~+ys is on file in the Clty af Anahelrt~Flanning pepa~tment. 8/27/79 ~ MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ AUGUST t7. 1979 79•~ EIR NEGAfIVE DECLARATION AND CONDITIpNA~ USE PERMIT N0. 201$ (continued) Caami~sioner Kiny offered Reaolutlon No. PC79-177 and moved for ita passage and adoption thet the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby grant the Petition for Ccnditional Use Pe nr~tt No. 2018~ subJect to the following uses betng permitted aa stipuleted 5y the petitianer at the publlc hearing: mortgage and f(nance carpanies~ (nsuranca companies~ insurance agencles and brokerage firms~ real estdte firms~ title and oscrow campantes~ Pttorneys~ certiFied publtc eccountants, advertising firms, engineering firms, architects, merkettng rosearch~ Intar(ar decor~tors~ managoment consuitants~ travel agencies~ tratning schools ~elated to sales, promotlon. managemant, skills end advancement, and elactronic and computar industrtos~ and subJect tA Interdepartmenta) Committee Recammendations. On roll tall~ the foregaing resolutian was paased by the following vote: AYES: COMMISSIONERS; NOES: COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: CQMMIS510NER5: ADJOURNMENT UAVID~ FRY, HEitE35T, KING NONE BARNES, BUSHORE, TOLAR There being no further busineas, Commissio~er Fry offered a n~otion, seconded hy Comnissioner David and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Barnes. Bushore and Tolar being absent) that the meeting be adJourned. 7he meeting was ad)ourned at 6;20 p.m. Respectrully submitted, ~G~l, .+ ol ~ ~~~~+w.- Edith l. Harris, Sacretary Anah9im City Rlanning Comnission 8/27/19