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RE.GUI.AR h~LE TIr1r, 0 F THE. Al1AH[ I M L I TY ('Ll~l~!J 1'If, ~U-~1h~ I 5; I 0'I
REGULAr - The rc.g~il ~tr rtc~c` t I nq t~ f thc llnohe f ct C i[V F' 1~~n~i i n~, Conrii s s i rin wa5 ca 1 1 e~l
M(.LTI f~G to ordcr `~y C-~~i rvrcxnan Eiarnes at 1; 3~'1 ~.~, ~ S~~temt~er 7~+, 1~ J'1 ~ i n th~
Counel' Ch~.R-!~r.r, A quc~r•.~+~+ k,ciny ~.~csent.
PREStN7 - Chai rv~o~~u-n; B~mes
f,or-missluners; E1u5,~urc~ U~~vid~ Fry~ lier'~st, ~:iriq, Tol~r
Ab5E1~T - Conrnissfuncr ~ : !lonr
n~so P Ft ~ri~ ~ -
Rai,ald ThonY',so~,
Jac~. uhitr.
Jay Ti tus
Paul Slnqcr
Joel Fic~.
Ann i~.a Sant al .+h t i
,)ay Tash~rc,
p~nn Shcr~+r
Eclicl, ilarris
P1 ar~ni ng Ui rec:ar
Uc~uty Ci Cy At torncy
Of f i r.c E.nc~i nc~r
Tr.ifFlc E.nqinccr
Asslstant LirFct~~r ~~~r Plannin~~
Assistant Direct~~r for 7onin~
f~.ssoclalc Flann~r
Zuniny P,epresent~~tive
P{anninr, Lnmmissi~n Secretary
PLE~JGE ~F - Tne Plednc of ~I lr.yianu~ to the ~lay was led by Commissic~ncr Kine~.
l1LLCG1 AI~GC
APPR~VAL OF~ - Cornmissloner ~in~~ offcred a r~tion. sewnded by Cortr~issi~ncr 7olar and
THE Mit~I~TLS '10TION CAftRICU (Corrriissicmcrs ftarn~•s and E{ushore ahst~~ininr~), th.it thr
min~~t~:s nf ~I~~ meetlny of tiuyust 27, ~~7`.1 ~~ 3PProv~d as 5ubmi tLed.
SPECIAI PRESC<<Z,.~ION
Stewart Moss of thr Cc~mr,unity Redeveiopnent Conxnissl~r ~rc~ented Comr~~issioner Glenn Fry
with a Resolution of Appreeiation for liis scrvice as a mernber of the Anaheim Communlty
Re de ve 1 opmr. n t Corm i s s i on,
17CM ~~U. 1
RCpO- RTS hldU REC0~~1~E~IDATIOIJS
The folla~ing Reporis and Zeeor~u;~eridations staff repart.s were presente~i but nut read:
A. REClA551FIGAT1011 ~~0. 77-1U-54 AtID VARIANCE N0. 3~05 - Request far a one-year,
retroact ve extens on c t me rom Sandra L. Rob nson, Lyndy Propertles~ Inc., to
expi re c~n l,pril 1Q, 19~, for proaerty at 11~3 South Nagnol i~ Avenue.
F3~ TEt1T/1TIVE MAP OF TftACT P~O. 10471- - Request for a ~ne-year extension of time from
naea 'ngineer ng ompany ~ to expi re on January 3~ ~ 19~~. for property havEng
fro~tage on thewest side of Villareal DrivP~ appr~~imatcly 36i~ feet south of
Nah t Ranch Road.
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MINUTES~ At~N1EIN CITY PIANNING CONNISSION~ SEPTEMGER 2~+~ 1~7~1 7~'~9S
REPORTS liNO REGAMMEND/1T I ANS (COni 1 nued)
C. C~NUI TI n~lAl USE PE.RNIT NQ. 1%~+3 - Rr.quest far A twu-ye~~r, retr~?+ct i vr extens i on
o~~'rom~n c~TTrs ~~el~cr-St~t innery ~ for pro~erty ~t ?!;11 Wes ~ La Pnlma
Avenuc~ to rrcplr~~ Sept~.~nt~cr 12, 1~61.
U. nun~~~:)IJ11E_!~T NU. ]-lA - Requa~st t~ ~t~,.~ndr~~n a p~rticx~ of :~ d~cllcnce;i Ifs-fnot widc
p~~u~t o~cy and san tAry s~~~r.r lin~ I~c~itr.d c~t~st ~~f Pau'Inr StrcP[ and soulh of
I'~dplc Strr~~:t frar~ ~ennis A~nsc, ~~nct r~r~ cnvirnnmcnt~al im~~nct r~view ind~cntes thl5
requ~:st to bc catec~orically cxcm~~l fron, thc r~~ui rrr~•nt ~~f the fI1 i ~q nf en E ill,
Commissinncr Klny ~ffcrcd .i rr.tlo~~ secc~ndr~f by Corrnissi~~~er Frv and M~TIO'~ LAP,RI[D, thnt
Re~orts ~nd P,r.ccxnr,endat ions I tcns A~ C+~ C~ A~~d f) b~ +-~~rovr. ~i ~s r~cnim,endrd t,y St~~ff.
ITCf1 N0. 2 CQNTI', ~) fuRLIC -IE~FIr~~.. 0'1~~f.P: Ar:A,;E1M HFN~PIAL
E I P, IiE.~~l1T1 VE oCC~n~nT i~~! ~~US!' I'fAL ASS~C I hi IOrI, 1 11 1 West la Pa lm.~ Avenue• ~
RCCI_ASS 1 I C/',T 1 Q?1 ~~C. 7n-~%%- 1 1 ~n.ihF ir,, f,~ ^2';~1 . l~r,E:!~1 : J~-~( S W. MC ~LVI-I .
UN(,' ~~A US E:RI11 F~O. ~"~23 E.Xf:CI~TIVC UIRE:CTC~P~ Anohe~r~ ~trnx~rinl Hosrit~l,
1111 wesc Ln ~alr~~~ l1V~n-M, Anthciri, Cn ~2F;~I,
Prnpcrty dr~crih~c' A~, Pnrt i~n A- A.n Irrc!~ul~r ly-
shaped parccl of land consistin, of a~;~~~oxir~+c~l~ 1.~3 ~cr~s havin~ a frontage of approxi-
matc~y 35~ fee[ on thr, north anJ YICS~ s i~fcs of tlPrrn~isa Dri vc ~ h~vi ny ,~ riaxi ~um cicpth c~f
~p~roxlmatety 12~ fe~:~ ar~c1 bcin~~ locnt~^~1 a~nrnxir~aceiy 1(.2 ~crt north of thc center) ine
of La Palmt~ Avenuc~; and F'ortic~n ft -!1n irrecyul.irly-shareei pfl~cel of lAnd ec~~slstin~~ of
aprroxir~at~:ly O.o7 ac~c loc~~tc~~f .3t th<~ northc.'~s[ t~~rner of La Palr.,,~ Avcnuc and Hcr~,.~sa
UrivE, havinr~ appr~:~xiraitc frontaycs o` 1;~; fect can t`ir north sidr of La Pal~~~ Avcnu~ and
40C~ feet on the east an~1 s~~uth Sidc•s of Nerr~ns~ Drivc. Prc~~erty p.'eSently elassified ^5-
7200 (RE~~ I OE-'TI l~L ~ S I I~GLE -FNiI lY) ZU~~E.
REQULSTEU CLASSt~ICl1T10!~: CQ (COt11~F_RCIAI.~ OFFlCE At;~ PR(`FC551~~lAL) 7011E.
RE~ZUESTCD C(~NUITI(~t1,1L USE: TO EXPAND AN E.XISTI'IG iiOSPITAL PAP,Y,I-;f, L~T.
Subjeci pe[it(cx~ was contlnurd frort: the meetin~3 of Seotember 1~~~ 1~7'?~ for Lf~e submiss(on
of r~vised plans and in ord~~r for the petitioner to contac; tt~e trlo homea+~rn~rs on Nerrrosa
Drive.
There ~ere four perso~s indlca[ing tt~eir presence in opposition to subJ~ct request, and
although the st.~ff rcpo~t to the Plarning Corm-isslon cfatcd Septcmhcr Fh~ 1~? 7~ was no[ rcad
at the public he~rinr~~ it is referred to and nade a par•t of the Minutes.
Commissioner Fry declare~ a conflict of interest as de.fined hy Anaheim City Plannine~
Commisslon ReSO'utlon 1JO. PC7~,-15J~ ~cioPt~ng a Conflict of Interest Cade fesr the Plannfng
Ct~mmisslon~ and Government Code 5ection 3E~2~ et seq.~ in that he is ~n the Eloard of
Dlrcctors of the Anahcim tlertc>rial tlospital and~ pursuant tc~ the ~roviSir~ns of the ebove
codes ~ decla red to the Chai rvroman that ~e was wl thdrawi ng from the heari ng i n connect i on
wi th Reclassifi catiun 'Jo. 7~-8~-11 ~nd Condi tional Use Permi t No. ?~?.3 and would not take
part in e(ther the d(scussion nr the v~oting therean, and h.tis not cfiscussed this m~ttEr
wi th any merficr of t~e P 1 onnl ny Cormi ss i~n. Tf~ERCUPON ~ COhW I S5 IOraER FRY LE FT TIIE COUhICI L
CN/WLiER AT 1:J5 P.M.
Randy Basch, Dan L. Rawland and Associates. 1000 1Jest La Palme Avenue~ architecC, stated
revised pl~~ns were s~fimltted p~ovlding a 15~fooi wide landscAped buffer between the
propased parking lot and adJoining properties on Nerriosa Drivc and La Palma Avenue; that
thG park(ng was turned inwards on the La Palma Avenue side so that the vehicle with
9/24/79
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MIt~UTES~ ANAHEIN GITY PI.AN~~ING f.QMMISSIb-J~ SEPTEMIfEk 24~ 197`~ 79-/,~6
EIR NEG~7IVF DEGLARATIOrr. RECLASSIFIC~T10~1 ti0. 7~-80-11 AND COcIDIT10t~AL USC PERMIT N0, 2Q23
headlights and r.ngl~es would nc~t bc ed)~cent to the rraperties~ and that A con~tete
landscc~p~:~1 buffer has ber.ri provided far the westerly housc c~n La Pa1mA wtth 2 rc~w of 25
pt~rklny st~aces remove~l.
John McUermatt, legal eounsel for the h~~sl~ital~ st~~ted An~heim Memrrfnl -~a.rpltal hs~s
histortea) ly cc~ntneted thr four remt~ln;n~ pro~+erry cr~+nrrs wl th referencc tc~ t.he
pc~55iblllty ~f acc~uirin~~ ihelr prc~~ertles; thAt h~ had personally u~nt~cted Mr. and Nrs.
Vernon Nendc.rson~ 1~~!~ 1Jc•st La Palma, And was t~1+1 [hrc~e or f~ur month5 :-go that they we~C
not dcsimu5 of scilinc~ at th~t tii~c; :`~at on Sepcembcr 11~, t~e ha~i ~~~ritten t~ Mrs.
Ilen~fcrscxi. in~iict~tin~~ [hc h~~spit~~l woul~! t,c willin~ t.a dlscuss ac~iuisiti~ln if tlicy hari
changed thr(r m(n~ls~ancl Nrs. IlenclCrS~>n h~~i nl~aned h(m nr,cf Inefic.it~~? thcy were^ thintcinq
ttn7
about it~ but h~d not m.~~i~ uS~ thrir minds; that he ~~+r~~te tc- Mr, hbrris Nyl~ndcr,
Hermos~ Grive~ on Se~~tcn~l~~r lf~ ~nd I~ad rec~ivcd ;+ c~~ll frcar~ Mr. -lylnncicr. in~llcating hc
wc~uld bc willin~~ to sel l his t~rc,rerty tr> thc hr5~~+ta1 ~it th~ SdrM pricc (y`~'?~~'~~) which
had becn palci tr~ acqul re thc t~~a rx>St r~tent ~roprr2ir;; th,~! h~ had ta4en t!~is nffer to
the hospital finanu+ e~~~~,itte~~ .~n~f they (ndlcnted the~y h~c1 ~.~1~1 n~~re^~iur~ fc~r the last two
propcrtirs In orc:cr [o c~.~in atc~5~~ t~ the {~~~rc~ls thcy nr~viously ~-~rn~~' ~nr1 a premium wa~
~ppropriatc In that s~tuatir~r, hu~ic•v~~r~ sincr thcy .~rr a n~~n-prnfit c~r~ornCl~n undr_r
Internfll Revcnuc~ Lude~ Secti~r~ ;ti1C.',~ thc'Y -~ave thr ~t!1ic~ition to ne~t ~~~y ~iny premlum thnt
cann~t bc dcm~x~str~ted t.~ t+~y pr(v~t~ (ndivlcfu~l b~e:~u5c it -voulc', hc in vi~lnt(nn ~f thc
tax exemptic',n status; ch~t he harl to) c! ~!r. -~y1.~nde~r, Fc~r those ~easo~t ~ th ~~r }i fSh~t~ouldG
not thlnk, t'~e S~~~.~~'~ yt~lue~ would h~~ anpraprl~it~ for ~~s ~rff~v~r~b) ennsirinr any
hirr. an ap~~raisc~~r ard sut~n(t .~n 1nt~~'~~jsal~ thcv woul:~ v~ry Y
rr.asonablc f~i r m,irkce v~~ luc ~'mprai s~il ,~r~i he st~~ce~.i th~ hcspi tat would i~~ wi 111 nn to pay
fai r market v~~l ~~ to any rr~, i clrnt W~~~~ dns i re•s to s~~ 1 1~ hut r:oul c1 n~t {~ay an unw~rr~3ntr_d
n rem i un,.
Mr. MCDen'x~tt st~~te.d he ha~i c~rresp~>~ur.~f wit.t~ ~'r5. Speec~, 1:1~': West La Palm~~ on
Stpter~ber 14 an~ st,~r h~1 phcme~f hi~ office, ~idvlsinn ther* sh.~ was nat desi rous of selling
her ~roperty tc± thc hnsp i tal ; and :~~at the~ hos~+i t.~1 , Chrouyh { ts finance v~rr~l ttee, is
neqotlati~y dircctly Y,it-~ thc ~~s~,i•tar.cc Lca~luc c~f ~~ri!~<•ir~who ca~+ns th~ a.~rcr.l at 11Q1
flerrnose Drive,
Randy tiosch statc~d th~ haspital is ~c~,otiatin~; in c~ooc' faith ~~ith thc rh~+aininq property
owners w~ic~ are willin~, t~ necx.tlatc. Ne st~trd they erc pr~vlding land5cane buffers until
tt~e propcrties are ac~ui red ~u~d they would 1 i~.e te~ c~ntinue ~•,ith tF~e dcvelopm~nt as shcywn
sinee the hospltal has been c,pcraein, wirh ~~ rormte parkin~~ ~nt ahaut one roile a-aay, a~d
explained as prupcrty i s at~tui rr.d~ nrar a~t~l iCr'lt ~QnS wi 1 I br submi tted far complction of
the parklnr lot~ ancf ext~laine.~l the parkin~ lot is des~qned so tttiat future additions can be
made wi thou[ di s turb i n~G ~y of fhc: athcr cnnstruct ion proposed herA.
Lillian Polzin~ representl~g che An~9-~,clm Assiscance Lea~ue, reac: the f~1lor~inq letter
dated $epterrt~er 11~~ wh i c~ th~~y h~~d rece~ i ved f rom Nr, J~hn McDernx~tt :
"Dear Nrs. Polzin:
This fi rm rPprese~~s Anahelm Mermrial ~lospi tAl Assoclation. As you arc aware,
the hospital has ~r.centlY acqulred sor++e r~al prooerty in your neicthborhood for
parkirn3 exparsic~n pur~asc.s. Should you be desirous of suhmi ttinn an off~r ::f
sale to the f~~s~l tal wit~~ rcferencc ta y~ur real estate~ plrase feel free to
5~~b~i(t such offe:r eo thi, offlce."
She steted the hospi ta1 h~:l ~t approached theAssistantr League wi th an offer~ but had
esked th~m to submit an offer. She stated Inasmuch as the merr~crship had never thought of
9/2G/79
MINUTES~ ANANEIM GITY PLN~-IING C~NNISSIl1N, SEPTfMt3ER ?b. 1^7~ ~~~~'~~
EIR NCGATIVC U[CLARATIO~~ REGLA551FICATIOt~ -~0. 7~-~0-11 ~'.D Cc!~~D~TIONA~r[~?MI_T ~IO. 2~23
se111nq tlir prapcrty~ thcy wrrn nc~t in a(~osit~~n an that short n~ticc•. from Scptrmbcr
lOth unt) 1 thc I~~th, to t~c ah Ic to sub~+l t s~~ch n~ of frr.
Shc t'cAd th~ f~l lcwri n~, lctt~' f~rx~ th~• l15~,istrnr.r LaA~lur tv 11r. HcJcr~~t' ~I~tr'! °~e~~~~~r
2~th:
"'Dcar Hr. ~~c0crr,ntt:
Nt~ are in r~~cr.i~~t ~f y~ur lett~r ~f,,~nc1 ~e~tcrr~er 1~~, 1~7°. ~ sP~eial rrretin<; of
the [loard of DI rcct~,rs of the ~ssistarr.r L~a~1u~' c,f Anahci~~ was c.~l l~,d on
Septcmber 2~~, 1n7~ for thc pur~~osc u( t'c~rr+ul:~t ir~y ~ r~s~~r~nsc w{th rc~)~rd t~> the
selc of our ~rn~,crty lucate~d at 11;! Ncrmc~sa ~'riv•~, It w.is ~1~cid~ci t~~~t +~e woulci
entc~rtain your ~~ffer to ~urchas~ Ll~c~ {Sr~~~~e~tY ~r~~vi~lin~a ~~~ can ~r~1Ch a~~recr~ent on
wh:-t ~•~c con~icler a f,~ir vnlw•'fo ~the{,l1~Slst.~~ccrl.rar~u~,.~~~rucr~irc ll~ok'inc~rf~n.~ard
eonccrnlnc~ off-~:.tret~t par~ iny
to your pror~~~t rc~~ ly."
Mr'S. Polzin str~Cc•~.• t~~~~Y hr+~r nnl har; ti~~c tn cn~tr+ct .i" arPrs~lscr, Shr ex~~l.i1n~J they Are
~entlnq this h~usc t~~ .3 tcrn.int v+h~~ 1s ~~~`tt inq very nr.rv~~us t-nd frlt i f this tr.nant vacates
thc {~ro~r.rty, thci~ ch~nc~s of rc-rr.ntiny it ~rc rrr,nt~.
Mrs. t~orrls Ilyl~~ncier~ 11~+; Herr~~s~i hrlve. st~ ie~: sh~• c1cMS rc~t int~n~l to chin~~ anYo~e's
m(nd; Chat she Is thc suppo~ting neRt~er c,f t! e f~~rii ly sincr I,er husb.~ncf is srmi-rnti red
th.it thcy owe
and drivcs a sct~or~l bus an~f s'~c is <~ m,iil carrl~r in thc• Of,~n~~~ Post Officr;~hat thcy have
epproximaCc'.ly S~,^~' ~!n thei r p-'e',ent harne and havc a,~3~ ~~~ ~nterest lo~n;
becn 1 iviny therc for sor-x: 17 vear, .~nd thei r rh i ldre•n arc r~arr(ed and I iv~ in the arca
and there i~ no re.~l rcason wh+Y ttx~y ti•+~~uld r+~7~~t to ~vc out of this arc~ or this h~use;
that thcy lfkc thc loc.~tic~r ~nd arc ~~,tlsfi~cJ wi th th~in c~~r,e; And th.zt t'~c lu,snital is
yoing to ercatc ~~af~~ty li~zard for thcm v~it~~ the• tr~ffic thcy intend to t•rfnr, ~~~n theS',P
street~ and askE•d ~~I~at ~~rotect~~~r, they c~~n ex,ect ~)~in~a i^ ~nci out af their drivrway.
sL~+ted tl,c houscs ~S~~rn t1~~ strcct. !~~~vc t,~ecn f~~r..uc~ht ind .~rc be{ng preoarc:i to be nr~ved anJ
thc pr•opcrty turned I ntc, a pirl• in, .are~~ f~,r !.-~e ha~~pl t~~l and !hey fel t maybc t}~c h~~spital
woul~ like to acquire their prc~pcrty and whcn her hus~and hAJ ~pnroacheel ther~~ they said
th~y werc not lntz-'cstc~: a~d wo~.1~1 nOt 9i~c t-~G~' ~n o~Fer. She indicate~i shc understood
Lhr_ Planninc~ Comnission h,~d instructc~~1 the hoypit.*1 tn nti~Me them an :~ffer; that they
received a Ictter tl~c ncx[ w~~:k aft~-r chc ~c~tiny~ asl.iny ther^ to stitc an~ffer~ and her
husband tclephcmed Mr. HcDcr~tt ancl told hi~,~ t`~^ir offcr vras 590~~'~~~ -~h~ch Is the t~rice
tt~at w~s pAid for tt~r last two houses purtl~ased on t~eir strret in July of 1~~; and that
Mr. HcDermott hacl askeJ hc~w c;uick.ly thr.y could ~.iet out of the prnperty i f purchased, and
they had told him th+cy would 1 i-.c thc ~SL~4~S ta run concurrently. Shc st~t~ed they
~eceived a second lcttcr fro~ -1r. McUer~tt on i'riday, Septent~er 21, and read che Iettcr
as follcws:
"(iear Nr. ilylander;
f havr Jlscussed your offe~ eo scll your rr.siciencr, for S!?Q,O~n ~: th the
adr~inistrati~n of th~ Anahclr~ ilemoria) Nos~~itAl. I ~r.ptalned to thc hospital
represe.ntat i vcs th.+t y~u h,nve ut i 1 i zed the ~90 ~!~ ~0 f i qurc as thc r~sul t oF the
f a c t that the tiospi tal pa~ d thi s amc~unt fnr the tv+u res 1 dences locatr~ near your
a premi um
propc ~ t y. It is thc twsnit~l's ~ositlon tl~at ic »as rrqu ire d t U p a y
f oti` these t~•:o reccr. L ac~~ui s( t i~ns i n o~ci~ r to oh tal n acce~s to thc st reet arEa
t f~ e
whi ch may ncw be ut i 1 i zed fc~r ~~arkl nn. Ni thout these recent purc h a s e s.
hos pital Is r.ot t~cJ~nlcallY a~b1r_ to utilize the street arca. This prohlc~an has
bee~ resolved by the hospital's acquisltian of ttie two lo:s. As you a re ~ w a r e~
Anahcim F1~mor+al liospital is a non-profit cc~rporatio~ ~nd cannot~ without
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MI NUTES ~ ANAHEI M CI TY PLAP~N 1 NG CbMMI SS I ON ~ SEPTCME~ER 24 ~ 1979 79-693
EIR 1•lCGATIVE DECLARltT10~~. RCCLASSIFICATIO~a N0. 79-~30-i1 ANO COPIpITIOIIAI USE PERMIT N0. ?.~23
,jeopardi zl nca I ts tax- frce scatus ~ pay an unwarr~~ntcd p~cm1 um far any real
prope~ty acc~uisitl~n. Your pro~er[y dc~es not fill Any critlc~~l d~vPlonment need
with refcrence to thr_ hospit~l ~arking rro_iecttons end~ therefore, the h~snit~l
has de[crmined th~t 1 t wauld not be Appro~~ri a~c ta ~ffcr ~~ nrcml ur~ fur ynur
propcrty. I~otwithstanding this f~ct~ it is thc desire of thc hospital to ac~ulrr
your property at its falr mar~et value should y~u d~slrc to se~ll thc property.
Therefore~ please obtafn nn appralsal of your ~ro~erty by t~ certlfie~f ap~ralser
and subml t thls ~~ppr.3isai to the hnspi ta) . You may be as~ured that thc hos~i tal
will 5~rlously tonsicJcr your appr~~i,al In m.~{ inc~ (ts dcc(slon as t~ thc nfe5ent
fai r nar~.ct v~ilii~: of your proncrty."
Sl~c stated thc lettcr st~te~1 thc ~rrmlum ;irfcr pai~i for the last t.•~o h~uscs c~uld not he
pttid for thelr ~ro~~erty !>ec~~use thr h~~spital Joes nc[ neecl i[ for thi5 ~rojcct anJ they
would acccpt that, but tecl If they h~~ve tn nx>vc for thc hr.~s~it~il's s~~~c r~t ~~ny time, they
will !ae forced ~ut on~1 n~t h~vln~ t~ rmvr f~r thcir c~wn st~ke a~~l woulci not take less for
thc(r ho~~~ than th~ ~remiur~ ~~rlu~, :~nd th,~f as tlrr ~«~s on~ the nrer~i~.im ~~ricc f'or that
ycar wi I I ~~ up. Shc stat~~ th~~~~ ~ir~ not intPnci t~~ ~x~ int~~ dcht t~~r ~~ny hnrx~ ~~s they do
not havc~ any neccl fc~r t+ !;Iryc~n c~~usc .~ncl [hcy int~•nd tu ~ay c.~Sh fnr their ncxt house.
Shc th~ugl~t It was ridfcul~us fnr ih~~ hospit~~l t~ ex~~cc.t [hen [~ p+~y for an appraisa) and
st~ted thry intFn~l to st:+y th~^rc in~'eflr~it~ly,
~trs. Nen~erson stat~~d sh,r_ un~lcrst~inds they h,ivr. pr~vi~±ccf ,i l~indcc.in~~1 h+.,ffer ~~me ~djatent
to her ~~ro~~erty. She re~auestc~d that ttu• 1 iyht iny in thc~ ~ar4_inr~ lc,t hc~ di rected away from
the( r hou5e rathcr than ~bwn i nto th~l r yarrf~ h~~c,iuse evrr ,ii. t~; fret ouf., thc 1 i~ht is
vcry strong ln thr exi~:,inc; p~rG.in~~ lnt .Znct liv!~cs u~ their h;~c~. yard ncr.i. 5he stateci as
far as selllnc~ the~ ~ropcrty t~~ thc huspit~~l, shc ha~1 til~.cd with Itr, M~llerrntt and the
hiospital d~>es nc,t nre~i any rx,rc ~;r~pcrty ~L tliis tinx~ fnr [heir rjcvclopncnt ini.l~
theref~re, 1 f thc h~~sn i t al +lo~s t,uy t~~ef r pro~~~rty ~ they r~oul d Nant [o buy i~ at the
apF~raisc~ci pric~~, 5-~c ff~•Ic an ac~pralsal a!. this tir~ ~n t'e ~~r~~rcrty th~t is ~xistinq
would bc to thcir dis~~dvant~~~;~, pnfntirq out t`~r co~c.+iti~n ~f tlic~ n~i7hborhnod now is not
g~d and thc• housc, :,rc in a st~~tc of „rinca r~mr.vFC',~ and in a~prr,is~r hases h15 appraisal
on thc nei~~f,borhor,cl, ;h~~ st~+tcd ;hey c~uld not buy an~ithcr pro{~,ercy cn~-m~'~rable for thc
money they v:ould ~~~t fr~ra thc ~~ppraise<l ~rice. She frlt thc c~nly thing they can da is
Stay at the present tirr ,inc! hone t~ve~ntual ly the hoSpf t?1 wi 11 want thei r ~ro~erty, or
chey Can Curn ir into co~mcrci~l ~rc~~r.rty themsrlve~.
Randy Eipsch St~ted they w~uld stlp~:late Co dirrctiny the li~t,[in~ in the parbinct lot .~way
f rom t hc h or,x: s.
T~~ PUBLIC HE~R.It,f, b1A~ CL~iSED,
CommlSSfoner Uusliore askeel w~~y fhe Planninri Comnissinn is ~~vr.~lveci in the nectc?tiatt~ns for
the sale of Lf1P.5C prc~~~~rLies~ and asl.ed haw thr. lec~~~1 cour~sel anci th~ h~spit,~l finAnce
Cumml tt~~ h~v~ de tc rr~i necJ $`?^ ~'~~~ i 5 a{~r~r:1 un ~~r i rr_ f~r xh 1 s pr~ner;•~~ tirhen nc~ apprai sa 1
has been ma~ie.
Mr. NcDernx~tt statr.d th~re hnvr Gr.en historical a~+nrnisals appr~ximately on~ y~ar ago
whlch shc~wcd the value of ttie p~operty in the hiyh $5~~~40 or Ic~w Sf.~~~~~ ran!~e.
Cor'r~issioner aush<~re stated ar appraisa? a year old should br updated.
Mr. McDermntt state~l thesc fou~ propertles are net nr.cessary for what the Fx~spital wants
to dc~ at thc p-'esent time and if Anybocty war?is to sell t~~eir prope~ty~ the hospital
in~endy to ~+ay ful I fai r m~~r~.et val u~ for t.hat property ~ i rrespecti vc ~f any al leged or
real diminuti~~n val~~r. th~t m~y havc accurred by turning the property Into a parking lot
9/24/79
~,.
MINUTLS~ At~AHEIM CITY PLAIINIItG CQMMIS51Q~1~ Sf.PTEME~EIt 2h. t979 79-~9A
EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION~ RECLASSIFI~ CA+ TIO!1 N~. 79'EC1-11 AND COPlOITIONAL USE PERMI'T' N0. 2023
next door. Ha stoted thcy are interested tn makinca surc they are pal d fAl r m7rket valuc
and he felt it Is Incumbcnt upan these property owncrs to say th~~y would lt~r_ to scll and
glva tho hosp) tt~l a pricc and an appralse) ~ and st~ted they stond ready~ wi l l inq and abte
to discuss any reagonablc appreisal ~ but that thc.y are s~tisficd the S~0~0~~ figurc is far
in excess of the value cf a~y of tl~ose c~ropert(es, irrrs~ectiv~ of an~~ parE:inca
uki llzatlon.
Commiss(oner Hcrbst stated hc ~Iid nut thinl: thc hospital should he loo~:inq at folr market
value for these propnrties as mucf~ ,~s they should I~r. loc~~,tnc~ at the replacerrMnt value,
because they are forci nq these pec~ple nut of th~ i r hor,es .tind have to c~ns i de r what ( t
would c~st thesc pcoplr to mnvc. and hc fclt thr.y shc~uld t,c loo~.lnr at the ~ictual
rtpl~+eamcnt value for a cc~n~arablc hun~e i~ a compnra~~le ncighborhood~ and then conslder
thelr rn~vlny costs ~n iop of th~t: t`.erefare~ thcy wuuld h~va to pay ab~vc thc oppraisa)
prlce In orckr tc~ bc f~ilr. Ilc f~lt wliat will ~e ~k~~c to thc pr~ncrty on Ilcrnx~sa Drivc
wiil devaluate tt bccausc it ~.~ri11 t,c thc rnain In~~rr,s ar,:! c~yress c~f thc ~ar~:inca lot. and
passib ly (n thc futurc tlir.r~ ti;i l t be nced for s innal i z~-ti on ancJ thcrc wf l l bc a larqe
volume of craffic.
Mr. HcOer~rott stated thcy undcrstt~nd that situation ancl that thc prlce will not ac
predieet~d u~~~n any dlminutior~ in price heceuse of th~~ contiq~x~u5 par~.inq lot. Nc slatcd
thr. ho5plt~1 15 Lakiny a position hcrc ihAt [hcy ~rant tci pay fAir itiirG.ct v~~luc of the
property, Irres~a~ctive of any eontl~)iK~us r.~~rkin, utilization, but that t~~ey cb not w~nt t~
get (nta a situati~~n wh~rc thcy ~~~c piyinc~ a tremcnd~us pr(c~.
Cur.mis5ioner Nert,st (ndicatcd r~n~rrn c~f ~~ falr a~pralsr,! ;;ciny r~d.r.~ and Mr. McDcrmott
sta[ed (t Is very easy to gct .~n ~prais.~l t>rc~use these arc all trict h~rt~s that were
construeted ~~t thc s~r-K: tirtie: ~nd t~~ere arc~ ~imi I,~r h<,uses across the street in thfs 5~-e
tract.
Conm~issloner Herbst fclt it is t~c,ssiblr.. tl~r prlcr p~id for the I~~~verty next cioor would be
a fai r markct val ~x; .
Choi r~ronan Carnes as;.c~ whi ch two hon+es wcre purch~se~ a[ thc 59~."1n^ f i qurc. and Mr.
~osch explainecl that thc~5c wcrc thc c.~sccrly t~+o lots <,f thc sh.~ded arc.~ ~n Hcrrr~sa Orive.
Comnissioner Tolar as~.er: lhr_ p~lce ra~~~es of th.• ot}~er ~ropertirs~ exclud(nq the two at
s~n~pp~~ and Nr, NcDcr~tt st.~te~~ th~: ~ricc ra~gc was from thc -:sgh »~.^~~'s to the low
SE:~~00~'s a~nut a year aqo~ irresp<~ctivc of any parkinc;, and suggeste~ that the houses
ecross the strr_ct~ away from thc p~rking lot ~xid in thc ~arRe rrysic;entiat development~ wil)
Show the propcrti es' wurth.
Comm~sstaner Talar statr.d ~~ thrsc houscs were o`1`cred Yor sale an th~ opcn rn~rket at a
reasonable falr r;~~rtcet value~ th~~ cc~st of sclling, inc:luding the commi~~si~an~ wauld have to
~c paid by thc scller~ and nrc of ihr. nicc thin~as when a hu~pital rurchases property or lt
(s c~btalned thrc~ugh con~kmnation !tiy ~ citY~ CalTr~ns. rcc., thosc costs arc not pald by
the seller~ ond that is ar affsr.tt ir.c~ cc~mpr.nsotlnr, factor and shc,uld !~e considrred in tk-e
sttuation. Ne st•~ted an appralaer can detr.rmine reasonablc market value predicated unon
cumpar~blas in tl5is same tract l~st ycar w(th a norm~l aoprr.ci,~cim factar of s~mewh^re
bctwcen 1C to 1:'z, ~~ded. ~~e stAted -~c w~s reSC~on~ible for the Cor,~iission bcing tnvo'vec!
in t~~t s port ian of Lhr neyot iati o~s t~rcause he` n~"ft~tt i f~the'y"'h~vecdone thattandhthei fa) r
h6d Co:ltaCtad the5e pf~ ~ fty awnef5 feCCr~t~y.
market value cAn bc dctcrmincd at a lotcr date~ tt~cn they havc dcmonstrated they are
wi)~ing to purth~sc thr_ properciPa at a f~lr mark~t va1uc.
9/24/79
~~
rt i NuTf ~~ AFIAl1E I H C I TY PLANN 1 NG COMMI''S I Otl, SEPTEMEtER 2A ~ 197~
C1P
e r er ~ ~r nr Ct ARAT 10N RECLASS I F I C~TI Ot~ N0 .
Ch~i rarm~An Bdl't1!!5 fc) t
th• l~ssisc~nc~ l.eA~ue
J9- 7~Q
-80~ 11 AND CUNDI TI ONl1l USL PE.RMI T N0. 202
that Is not entirely tru~ W~~~n~r was askedrtoesubmttr~neoffert~
propr.rty whereih the pro{~erty
CnmM{atir,nr_r 7olt+r statcd (~SSfor salrCOn1thehopen mArket~~nlath~tklt ps~p~rtvofytf~Y When
p~~,p1e ~,ff~ r th~ir prnpert
~~n~c,crnt.ic way of life.
;;r,airwnn+~n ~arnes statPd zhc Assist~ncr. Leaclue dict not h~ive °dc`lhuteth~tPtl,e.ySjbeicreating
nff~r. Shr_ str~ted shc rcalizcs the hospit~) needs the parkinci~
A~C.~1 hardshir on thc ad}~~cant pr~E~erty c+wn~rs and the f'I.~nnina Commissi~n is not only
~-~eo~o~~ible to thr hnsp~1ta~,tlt~r continueciruntll`tthist~anhhecr~~c~lvetY ~ners. She stAted
tin• w~ulc) ! ik.e t0 !!CC L e
;~,hr~ M~perrn~tt re{~1 icd he had skatecf earl ier ihat hc had rr~t wi th Mrs. Nenclrrson In her
~-,~r,~e ebout four rrx~nths ago r-nd that •~he h~s rever indl cs~ted any r~l 111nnnesS ~r des i re tn
S._~ I her property~ And that she has in~llcat~^d today ~t thc mcetiny ther~ is no wl t l ingness
t^ discuss thc s~le of hcr properi.y~ An~1 ther~ is nothing to leact hir~ to be1 i~vc sh~ w~~nts
tn se I 1 ur th~ t she shou i c1 be forceci t~ s~ 1 I; that Mrs . SPpCCP hns ( n!'~rmr~~ h i s of f i c.e
[hat she is not interested ~n s~ll inq; that Nr, Nyl~+ncler hAd inc;fcated he is wi 111nc~ to
scll ~t S`,-~~h0~; and that h~ hias ~dvlaed the ~n~lcdqc'that he~ls~inte~ested in,,sellinclc
~~~s~res~ for the seller of the propert'r to ac
a~a :o plac.c a pricc on the proncrty, ana that Is thc pmcec:ure th~ hospital snould follc~v.
b~eca~ase it i5 custc,m.iry. He stntrd -rith refercncc to the ltssistnnce Lr_agur~ the hospital
,~;u 1~ res~+~nd t~~ ~ny of fe r f rcxn them.
~:ha~ rwc~m~+n Barnes asked why the hc.sp i tal wants Lh~ pro~e~ty c~wner5 to pey for the
a;.~ra~sal and m<~ke thei r ~f fer t~ tl~c I~ospi ta) slnr_e they ere the anrs rutt in~1 t`~~: i r
o*oc+erty in Jcao~rdy.
~r. McDermoCt stat~cl the property ow~rrs wr,u~d qet f bett~r a~praisn~ ~{~ st~t~d1lf~thee
a~~tiraiscr ther+~selves an~i U:~lc! hir~ the good pc~nts o thelr ~rope-'ty.
hes~ital hires thc appr.~+tse•r~ even thou_yh 1t ^~Y b~' ~~feel~lfr~[hc~pro~cCtYrrn"~e~s wi11rS
,,,~,,1~ tend to not ~~lievc ~t. H~ statec! they stmng~Y
hire the apprAiser ~nd thc appraisal ck~e~ not inAicatr a~y diminution valuc because oE the
parking, tf~ey will sce the fiq:~res are rcalistic.
Chai rwaman Barnes statcd I~er ~+ai nt t s that she a~s n~i thl nk. negot i at ions wi th the
Assistance ~~~9~ e~"' 4,at>outf thrssctut~tio~h~and`lf~lt~thisYrequest isvpremature.t`~ t^ ~
anything ar even th(nk
~~rrnissioner King st~te~1 tF~cree~P helnqa~ro~vldedip5hfootl~lAndscapedsbuffe~sewith 6 foottn9
forced out of their homes ~n! .
hi~ah block wal ls.
l;cx~missio~er Esushore nsked lf thc hosr'i tal
NcDermott stntecl tt~ey v+oul d have the P~r+er
not ~pti1Y in thi~ sltustion. He e~plain~d
~~rot~erties for their parking plan at thls
c~n-trs want to se1 ! .
In
for
I~a~ the pc~-aer of cmine~t dort-Aln~ and Mr.
under very limtted circur++stances And lt aould
the hosp~t~l does not necd Lh~se remaininq
time, but wi11 ~cquire thrm if the prdperty
r=spo~se to a qupstian fram thP audfcnce~ Chalrrroman Barnes REOPf.HE'J THk PUaIIC itEARING
addltional testimany.
M~s. Polzin stated
the ~roperty as e
thc valuc nf t~PSidentielt~elghborhoodcand~hc'h~spitahe~~ga~~en~chased
residence in a
~/2~+/79
S A~IAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ SEPTEMEIER 2Q~ 1979
7~-700
MINUTC ~
EIR ~~~GATIVE DfCLARAT~ON RECLASSIFICATIOt~ N0. 7`~'e~'11 AND CONDITtONAL US~ PERMIT N0. 202;
Cha~i ~on,a~i Eiarnes fel t roaerts wherei nt theYpro~ertyto+wner w~s atkedrtoesuhml traneaf fert~
the As~ i s C+~ncc l.e.~gue p ~ Y
Commlssioner Tolar stated this is basically the sc~me thinq that takcs plrce every dAy when
people affer thelr propertles for SAIC on the upen market end that it is p~~rt ~~f th~
dGmocracic way of Ilfe.
Che(rwr,mt~n 9arnes stated thc Assist~~nce Leac~~~e di~i ni~t h~~vc nd~qu~te tlm~! to submlt the
m
offer. She st~ted she realixes thc host~i~fe~srAndtfth~~f InnninqhCommissi~~nclsanotCOn~y nq
~ rcpl hArdshi~ an [he adJaccnt pro~crty
respoisible to the h~s~~i[A1~ but is also r~sponsihlc to thesc pr~~~r_rty c~wnerc. She stattd
she woutd I ikc to sea the~ m~~ttcr cont inued unti 1 this can be r~snivr_d.
John NcQr.~mott re~l ir.d he ha~i stat~d car) i~r th~t hc had met wi th Mrs. ~~enclerson in hcr
home about four monttrs ago rnd that She hrs never indicAted a~y willinnness ~r desirc to
scll her property~ n~d that shc has indi::atcd t~d~Y ~7t the r~cetinq therc is na willingness
fo discuss tFie snle: ~f her prapcrty~ ~n~i ther~ is nothing to le~d him to bclieve sh~ wrnts
to selt or thnt shc ~houl~i br. forced tn scll; that Mrs. Sp~ece has inforrr~~ hls office
thdt shc is not intcrested in sellirg; that Hr. Nyl~nder hed in~ilcated fit is willlne~ to
sel) nt 5~1~~~~'1; .~nd that he I~~is adviscd ;hfcknc7wledqr` that h@S iS~If~LCfrt'Sil'c1 lnt'sellingc
bu~in~ss for thF seller of th~ property tc a
and t~ placc a{~rice on the pro~erty, and that Is the p~~~~~~re the hos~it~l should fo~low
becaus~ It 15 cusLc~mary. Ne sca[ed .+ith reference to the nSSista~ce LeAque, the hospltal
woul d respond tc~ any of fe r f rcx~~ thcr~,
Chalrw~man ~arnes asked why the hos~~tal w.~nts t~~~ pr~ciercy ~awn~rs to pay fnr the
appra(sa1 and mt+ke their ~ffer t~ thc h~sF~te~ since they are the an~s ~uttin~~ thcl~
pro~erty in Jeop~rdy.
Nr, McDermott 5tated the pr~perty ~+ncrs woul~ ~et a bettc~ ~~Pt~rfl~s`i~' '~e st~trdi I f`thee
appreiser tfiei*isclv~s anc'. to~d i~ Jenithouyh~lt~~-ysb~fatfai~ aPn~rals»1~ the pro~erty ow~er5
hospltal f~ires tha ep~~ralser, feel if thr pra~ert~~ ovrners w{11
wauld tcnd to nat belicvc it. N~ statcd th~y stron~ly
hire the appraiser and the an~-raisal ~k.~es not ir~dic.atr any dlMinution vr+luP becausc of the
parklny, they will sce .he fi.~ures ~+re realistic.
Chair.~omdn B~rnes stated h~~ ~oint is Lhat she d~K~s n~t think ncgotiations with the
Assistance League are quite f(nished snd that the ~ro~ert~ cy-+ne~s hav~ not had time to do
anything t~r cven think abo~~t thr situat~~n~ And frlt thls request is prer.-ature.
Cnrm~(ssianer King st~[ed ~=t~n~~~~e beingaprovicied'i~Shfcs~athlandscaprcd5bufferspwath 6 f ot`n9
f o r c e d a u t o f t h e i r h o m e s
high block wal ls.
Ccrmmission~r fiushore asi~ced if the hos~stal ~as th~ power of emincnt domAin, a~d Hr.
McOermott st~ted they wc~ul d ht+ve the ~~-ver under vt•ry 1 i;ni ted C1 rcur+stances end it would
not apply 1n this sliuaii~n. Hc explnined the ho5pti~1 do~s nat nee.d these r~rr~efni~9
properties for thcir ~~arking plan at this tlme, but wi11 acquire them if thc t~roperty
p,ners went to scll.
in responsc to a question from the audiente~ Chairv~oman Qt+rnes REOPENED THE ?l;~IIC HEA~iMG
for addltional testimonY•
Nrs. Potzln stAtcd the value of thair property is be{ng dest~~oyed; th~t they had purchasea
the property a§ a res~dence in a resick ntial neighborhood and the h~spital h~s been
~/2~/79
MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PLANNINf; COM!11SSION- SEPTEMBER 24, 1~19 79-7n1
EIR NEGATIVE DLCLAPJITIQN. RECI.ASSIFICATION N0. 79-~0-11 AND_CO_NQITIONAL USC PEW",IT~~q_ 2f123
acquiriny these perccls since 1974- end th~t these homes heve hacl renters r~nd Che proprrty
hes depreciated in val~ nnd can only depreclate with thr_ ingress and rqress c~f the
parkiny. In respc+ns~ to a huestion by Commissioncr Tolar~ shc ex~lnlne~l the ASSI4LA~C!
l.eague has owned tf~c prnperty slnce 1~(•~.
Commissioner Toler st•'~ted he ~lid not want t~ put eny homectiwnPr in .~ n~~siti.~n of h~~v~n~ ta
take less than ~casonahle mnrkr~t valuc and it 15 obvlous the extension ~f this parkin9 lot
probably has donc sornethin~~ t~ cliriinish the llain~ stylc of son,~one I tvl~~c~ In th~ h~~~se,
but takinc~ a reASOneble mArk.et value of thfs property pri~r to the rnrk'~n~ lot, wh~n it
was prlmarily A residentl.~l a~•ea~ an rppr~itsFr hir~d ty th~ sell~r wou!d ~ive an
evaluatian that wou1~1 be ,~ust ai~d feir. Hc statcd he woul~l stronc~ly ~.up~+c~rt st~rninc~ this
pr~ject if thr.. hospital w~s r~ot willin~~ to ~aY r~ fair ~nd reASOnahlr prfce; hc~wr.ver~ he
Felt Surc the hos~icnl r~ould be wi 11 inq to pey th~~ fair ,~nd reas~nable marl,et value. He
stAte~i in previous approvals ~f commerclal usCS or ~~~rkin~ A~1Jacen: [o resident(al
structures, soun<i-~~ttenu~tir,n E>arri~rs have been reaulrrd~ end th~~t has been done here.
ilc felt by continulnp the hcarin~~ from the previous hcaring~ the Commis~~ion had t~ken that
extra ster~ ~ec~use these nre l~gal prr~t~le~~~s which are nc~t lnvolv~d in tnis ap~l ic~tion.
flc state~! Mn property ~r~m~~rs have indltatrd thcy do not want c~ sell ~~nd the third
i~~i(cate~.i unlc5s he grts t~t~ f~~~~'1c1~~ he does nat want t~ s~ll. He did not feel thc
~ssistanc,r. L~an~x~ (s beinr.~ nut in any diff~rent p~siti~n tfian ~ny otl-~rr praperty owner and
ste[e<< if they vx~u1J ta~.~r the SGn,'l~~ with the 1~)x; appreclt+[ion addcd~ [hey w~uld prob~bly
qat n be~tter n~t result C~7•~~ they would on the open mark.et~ ev~n if it were in a
res;~~entiil are<~, ile st.~tecf hr kno~~~s the homes in thc ttrc~ ~~nd fel[~ net-wis~~ they would
rece•ive a m~~h mnre ji~sf. ~c.or~ensati~n t`~Tn they would wlfh .ti resiclentiAl proprrty.
~•~r~ ~amen f3~rnes st~~ted wfien an areA arnu~a r prurerty cf~Ane~es ~~ much tt~flt the ~r~nerty
-~+-+r is cither forced tc~ ~sel! or remain ln the ~roperty nnd livc in an ~dverse sltuetlon
.. somethlnU le~~s Lf~rn wt,ai nr~ bou9ht lnto and he c~nncyt r~place the prc~rerty, he snould
;,•, cpmpens~ted.
Lommissioner Tolar nofntecl out the Assistnnce Leanue ; ru~~~rt. is an incor~~ nroperty ~~lth e
tenant. and f1rs. Polzin ex~ln!ned they n~ed the resfd~nct f~r pr~~Jects and are n~t ln e
finnnci~) positi~n to do w-~a: t~~ey ~•x~uld like to do W1th the proprrty. She stated with
Hermosa Ur(ve t,cir,~~ the main in<tress and cgress of thr par~.i~n 1~t~ th~ry do not fcel the
ap~raiser wouid c;ivc ~ fair m2rkrt value.
Gonmissioner lsush,ore statr.d ihe sellrr can ask for an a~+~raisal and set the parAmetzr
i rrespective of thc parkin~ la[ ncxt dror.
Gurmissioner Tolar strir.d an ~~p~~raisa~ on a house ln the samr tract twu blucks over not
affected by the pa~kinc~ lot would prove to the Assi~t~nce leAe~ue that they coutJ tak.e
$Z~OQU or 53,0~)~ less than the c-ther house and the net result would be much better because
they w~~uld not hav~e to pay any s~e11 iny costs.
Jatk Nhite~ Ueputy Ci[Y attornry~ stated i[ appears the Planning Comrnisslon is trying to
intermedlr~te between the pr~p~rty rh~rirrs and [he host~ital on the s~le of the ~roperty;
that the City does not hAVe t1~e pc~wer to re~uire the hospitAl to ~u~chase the property,
nor to req~eire the pron~r:y r~wncrs t~~ sell their proper;y, anci evcn tf all chese homes
were acquired by the hospitnt~ it wauld not a~nstitute a legally-adequatc Gasis far
approyal af t.he cond6tlas~Al usc prrmit. On the other hand, the m~ere fact the hous~s are
not acquired by thr haspital ~Sae~s not constitute a I~gally-sufflc.ient basiz for denial of
the conditfonal use permit; t~at the crlt~rla clenriy siated in the cocie for approvel of a
cnn~ltiona) use permit doe~ not differ ln thls case and sFmp~y says if the proJett is
dct~tmentA) to thc surro~nding pra~erty~ then thc conditionel use permit should be denied;
and thac if it is not detrir,~~ntal and in the Planning Commissic~n's opinion it is ~~
9/24/79
MI NU7CS ~ I1~IAHE I M GI Tf PLANN I NG CC?IMI SS I ON ~ SEPTEM[iER 2~~ ~ 1979 ~9-702
EIR t1EGATIVE OECIARATi~N, RECLASaIt'IC~TION ~10 79-Fi~-11 AND CQNDITIONAL U5C PERMIT N0. 202
aclequate end logical locatlon for c--e use and the streets are suffic(ent to carry thc
traffic~ then the condltlonal us~s parmlt should bc epproved. Ife stAt~d thic Plannin4
Comrnisslo~ must lc>o{. at tl~~ fect!c as tl~ey exlst today.
(t was noted the applicont InJlctitc~d no clesire to offPr a rebuttAl ~~nd the PUl~LIC NEARI~IG
WAS CL~~Sf.U,
ACTIOt:: Cortn~issionrr Kin~ offered a rrotlon~ SeCOnc;ed by Conmissl~ner Talar and MOTIOtJ
CAR~ILC~ that tl~~~ Anahcin, City Planninc~ Commission li~s ~evlewed the prn~osal to rcclasslfy
subject praperty f~on~ t,c RS-72nn (Residential, Slnqle-Fami ly) Zone~ to the C(1 (Commerclal ~
Office anJ Prof~ssion,~l) Zone to rermlY expansion of an existing h~s~>ital parkinq lot on
a~ irre~~ularty-shaped parccl of land consistln~ of apprc~ximately 1.13 Acres havinq a
f rantagc of appruxl n~atc ly 3;n fcet on the north and wes t s 1 des oF flermosa Dri ve ~ havi ng a
maximum ck:{~th of appmximf+tely 12~ feet~ and beinc~ locatr.d a~~ror,imt+tcly 1E~1. fcet north of
the tenterline uf La Palr-~ Avenue~ and an irregul~rly-T,ha~ed parcel c~f land consisting of
approxir~ately ,^,.f.%i acre locatecJ ac the i~rtheast corner of' l.a Palm.i /lvenue and Ilermosa
Drlve. havlnu approrim~atc fronta~~es of 135 fect on th~• nortl, sidr of La PalinA ~ve.nuF and
~-00 feet cm the east an~i south sides ~f lierrnos.~ Orlvc; and cic,es here~by ap~rove the
Negative Dec:laratian frcx~ the renutrement to prepare an envirc~nmental (mp~ct rec~Art on the
b~sis tliat therc wc~i~lci br_ no Siynificant IneJividual ~r cumulativ~ adverse envir~nr~ien[al
impac[ duc~ tu the a(~prc~v~~l c~f this Neqativi~ Drcloration since the An~ihetrn Gener~) Plan
desiynatrs thc sul,jrct pro~~erty for r.c>rm~crc~al professfanal and medium density residentia)
land u5es co~rner~SUrAtc wi [1~ tf~e pro~asal ; t~~~t nc~ spnsi t ivic envi r~nn~nt~~) im~ACts are
involveJ In tl~e proposal; that the fnitial Study sul~~~ittc~d :~y thc petitioner indicates no
si~nificant ir~riivlJual or cumul~~tive ~~dvtrsc cnviranmental impacts; an~i tt~~~t the Neqative
Ucclaration s~t~stantiatiny the forc:loiny flndinqs is on filc in the City of Anahcim
'lanning Dep~rtmunt.
CpmmIS5lonr_f Y.in~i offered a resolution nrantinc~ 1'etition for Rr..cl~isslfication -~o. 7`~-&~-
11~ subject to Inter~epart~~rntal Cammitke~ reco~~ndacions.
Commissioner !I~erbs[ stated he fcli this ~sc would have A detrir^cntal effr_ct on thc
surroundiny ared~ es~>ecially those pr~ner!ies which are located ~n thr_ st~r.et whi~h will
be used as an ingress and eyrPss fo~ the nar~.ing lot.
On rol I cal I~ Ctie fo •egoiny re~o~ution FAILED TO CARRY by the fol lowiny vot.e:
~YES: CQMf11S~IQNERS; Y,ING~ T`.?LAR
~~pE,; C~NNISSIONERS; E3ARIiES. BUSHORE:~ ~A'JID, IIER~ST
A45E'~T: C(~M1115510!IERS: fR~
Commissi~~ner Nerbst affr.red Resolution No. ~'~7~-1~b and moved for its passage and
adoFtian~ that che Anaheim Clty Plsnniny Lon~,ission does h~r~by drny Petition for
Reclassificecion No. 79-~~11 on th~ basis thot the use would be detrimental to the
remainir~g properties since the street kould create a driveway specifically for the parkiny
tot ar,d the houses woul d hav~ no st reet f rontage.
On rol i ct~ll ~ the forcyoiny resalution r+as passe~! by the fol lav~ng vote:
AYES: COf1MIS5lOt~ERS: BARNES~ BUSNORE~ QAVID~ NERaST
I~OES: C0~1MlSSiQNCRS: KIN~,, TOLAR
q~3;~NT; C~MMISSIQNERS: FRY
Commissf~~nar Busha~~ asked why this property was not reclassified ta the PD (Parking
Oistrict) Zone~ ind(ceting that was the reasor. he had voted far deniai of th~
9/24179
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MINU7E5~ ANAHEIM CIT7 f'LAt~NING COMMISSION. SEPTEMf3ER 2~i~ t979 19'703
Elk NECATiVE OECLARATION, RECl.A551FICATION N0. 79-fi0-11 AND GONDITIONAL US~ PERMIT NO_ 2023
_~,.,_,_,_r.__._.~
reclassific~tion~ beceuse wfth commercial offtce- zoning~ the hospital c~ulcf~ in fact~
bulld a profession~l offtce butlding on th~ propcrty.
Dean Sherer~ Zoning Representative, explalned th(s was the requ~st of the appllcant and
that all previous expansia-s af the haspital perkin~ lot heve been do~~ tn this manner
wfth a reclassiftcetlon request in canjunction with a condittonal use permlt.
Commissioner Uushore clarlfied tf~at grnntinq the c~>nditlon~l use permtt as rc~uPSted wtth
deni al of t~ie rccloss i f 1 cat ton woul d-~e yrant ing tt~e us~ of the parl;i ne~ lot t n the RS-7200
~one.
Jeck Whitc~ Deputy C(tY Attarncy~ cxplained this r+ieans the undcrlyiny zaning would remain
RS-72n0 (Resid~ntiat~ 5ingic-Family) rathcr than co~erclal~ but the ultlmntc result woulcl
be that they woulci hc permitted to build ~ parkiny lot cm the property ~s Pronosed since
the parking lot Is N permittcd tise in tF~c R5•720~ Zonc.
ACTION; Commissioncr dushore offrred a r~solutlon grantin~ Petici~n f~r Lo~dttiona) Use
Pe~ rmrt ~Jo. 2n23, subJect to [he petitic~ner's stfpulntions and suhject to Interdep~rtmental
Cortmittec r~ecortme~datfons.
Cortmissioner Herbst indicAted hc would ot~Pp~e the rt~salution on the h~~sis that thc: pArking
lot would have e detrimental effect un the remhinin~~ propertics since it would bc creating
a driveway in front of thesn c~xr+es.
Commissianer Tolar pointe~f out ihe hospltal c~~uld elcct t~ rPClrc~~late the traffic anci
provide ir~gress And eqress in anothec- way, and frlt denial of this condit~onat use~ permit
would be hurtiny thie adjac~nt propcrcy owncrs mc~rc th.~n hclpinc~ them.
Commissioner Bushore in~llcatrd hc would be williny to a~1d -.o thc resolution that ingress
and e.gress st~all not !~e prpvidcc on Ncrmosa privc.
Camiissioner ~:ing did not fet) the traffic would be ntarly as bad As `~e traffic on La
Palma Avenuc,
Commissior~er Eushorc~ r~stated that he would offer his resoluttoh ,yrAnting Conditlonal Use
Permit No. 2023~ subject to tl~e pttitioner's stipulatlon reyarding tt~e licThting away fr~m
the res i dences .
Jaek whlte clsrlfiec! that Cond(tlo~ No, 1 shouid be dcleted since it pertafns to
completicu~ of t~~e reclassiftcation.
On roil c.yll, the f~re9oing resolutian FAIl.EO 70 CARRY by the fallowing vate:
AYES: CbW~'ISSIONERS: BUStiORE~ KII~G~ TOLAR
NOES: COtUiiSSIOt~CR$: 9ARNE5~ DAVIJ~ HER@ST
ABSENT: COMNISSIOtIERS: FRY
Jack Whfte cxdsleined thc pecition is dcemeti d~nied by operation of t~~e law due to the tie
vote. and prese~ted tt~e petitioner with thc wrltten riyht to a~peal tf~e Planninq
Conwnfssion's ckcision witt~tn 22 days to thc Clty Councll.
9/24/79
MINUTE'.;~ ANAIIEIM CITY PLA~INING COMMISSION~ SEPTEMUE'R 21~~ 1979 ~~'~~4
ITEN N0. READVF.RTISED PUBLIC MF.ARING. OWNERS: RhYMf1ND G.
~~Ri Cl1L EXEM4'T I ON-CLASS 3 A~ID ESTLILC 11. 5Pf.11AR ANO MAaC I A ANI! tiALL 1 GAN ~
V RIA~JCE IJO, 3112 ~13 PAloma Place~ Fullerton~ C/1 92E~35• AGCNT:
GE:ORGE L. QE!1UREG11R0~ 12f> Plorth Chrisc:~n Street~
Apt. AtnG~ '~~ahe.im~ CA !~2$f1J, Pctltion~r r~quests
WAIVE.P. 0~ (A) PER111TTEp SIG!IS It~ TNE SCENIC CORRIDOR QVERLAY ZOf~E A~lD (I3) PERMITTED
NUMEiER~ 517.E ~'~D LOCA710t! OF tilAll 51GN5~ 70 CO~~STRUCT ONE FP,CE•STN~DINf.; SIC,N on property
descrlbed as m~ irre~ul~rly-sha~ed parcel of land consisting of ar-nroxim~tely 3.0 scres
located s~uth and ee~st of the southeast cornnr af La Pnimn Avenu~ ~~nd In~erlal Niqhway,
hav(ng apprc,xim~~Le frontac~es of 17; feet on thc south stde.~ c~f La Palrt,~ Avenue and 35~ feet
on the cASt sidc nf Imperial Hi~ha~ay, beinn I~catcd approxtm.~tely 325 feet east of the
conterllne af Imperifi) Hlghway and a~proximately 30p feet ~outh of thc ccnterline of La
Palma Avenue~ and further descrlbed as 571~ East Le Palme Avenue. Propcrty presently
classiHed CL(SC) (C0~1P1i:PCI~L~ LII+ITED-SCENIC CORRIDOR ~VEPLAY) ZONC.
SubJect petltlon wa5 continucd frorn tf~e mectlny oF Septcmbcr 10, 13i~~ f~r edvertls~ment
of an eddi tlo~al walvr.r,
There w~s no onc indic.~tin~~ thelr presence In op~osltion to s-ibject rccluest~ and alth~uqh
the staff report to thc P~~~nnfny Cor.tmissia~ dated :~eptemher 21~, i!lJ'? was not read at the
public hearin~, tt ~s ~eferred to and maclc a parc cf the minut~s.
fli I1:
Ge~rqe L. [ir.aureyard, re~res~nting thc ,4n.ihrim/Motor (nn~ stateci accordi~~q to the minutr.~,
of thc l~st mcr.tin~~ I[ ap~~car^d ~i[ o~e point he had approval fnr one siqn on one wtfll and
it was suqgestcd he shoul~l as~. f~~r n varir~ncc f~r the sanr thfn~; on the other well ~
me~ning thr_ east and west w~~lls~ and that it w~s tt,en sugqested by ~ean Shercr. Zoning
Representatlvc~ that it was found thc square fc~otaqr. requircrnc~t was no[ carefully
consldered and~ thereforc, it wo~ld bc morc fn order to readvertic.P Lhe enti rr proJect.
Dcan Sherer st.~~ed the ariyin~~l request ~•+as far a frec-st~~ndin~ si~n nnd the petl ti~ner at
the previous hearln~~ had indicated an addltion~l pro~os~~l was submitted whith was not
~9dvcrtise~i to loc~tc two w~ll sinns cn the mo'~1~ and the rdJitinnal a~aivers were
advertisec! becaus~~ thc w~l l siqns ~ferr too many and tc~~ larne as perr*~itted by c~de for the
wa! ls on whi ch they are tu be locatrd.
Nr. ~eaureydrd stnted t~c~ t~~d indicated at the l~st hearing that hc would be allo+~~d ~~ ~+60-
square f~t si9n on t~~e suutl, ,ynll of the hUilding facing the resicltntial area and that he
wa5 do1n~~ a llttie tradin~,~ by puttiny the :siqns nn thc en~5 of tF~e bu11d1nG; that th~
signs represente.d nn area of a~pror.imatcly 13~ squore feet each~ for a totaE of 26~ scluare
fect; and that hc had subml tted p 1anS shorri ~y thc s i ze of the si r~ns ~n tl~c ends of the
building~ bu[ those ~lans were not submltted ta th~~ Lommission, Ne stat~d the 130 syuare
feet is larger than 10`~G of the ends of the bu(lding in question~ but that F~e had made tl~e
remark that s1nGe they a~cre rntertaining the thaught of goln~ to the ends of the b~ilding
rather than the bacE: of the buildiny fnr aesthetic reasons, he would do some trading in
ordcr to satisfy the tonJlttons or the ove~all requiremen;s. He explained hc ls
r~questi~g a variance to place a 130'square foot sign on the east and w~st ends of the
build(ng ckfinr~ as "the dest ~lcstern quean-slze sign". He state~~ he was told the s(gn
wherc tt~e office ts Iocated is wf chin the code~ and st~ted all he wan;s to do is identify
this as the A~oheim Ilills Motor !nn and was told hc r.ould use a 22-inch hlgh by 28-foot
long siyn ~elaw the carport level. f~e stated thr entrance sic~n related to the traffic
situa[ion and paintcd out h~ had helped pay for the co~ct of construction of the medlan.
Tt,E PUBLIC HEARIF~G Wti CLOSED.
9/24/19
MINUTES~ ANAFIEIM CITY PLA~J~IINC COMMISSION~ SEPTEMdER 24~ 1~7~ 79-705
EIR CATEGORICAL EXENPTIO~~-CI.ASS 3 A~JD VARIANGE NU. 3112 (tontlnued)
Commission~r Bushore askecf tf the entrance sign is c+ part af this ap~+licatlon~ ~nd Dean
Sherer explelned tf-e cod~ permlCz one slgn facing the stree.t~ which would be the entrance
slgn, and tliat tho slgns in qucsCl~n ~re the twa s(gns ~n the east ~tnd west end~. of ;he
butldtng.
Commisslo~er Bu~h~re SCA~~`~ hCS rect~lls ha mocle ~ stateme~nt at thc pr~vlous meeting that he
would sup~~a~t a lary~r slgn o~i the east end of the bul l~.iing because it could,pet,' he s~en
from the freeway. but he did not r~coll stating he would s~~pport a stc~n on the wFSt end
and~ If he did sup{x~rt a slc}n~ It w~ulci havr co be much smaller bec~use the frerway
vtslbillty Is not thcr c.
Mr. Beauregard s[~+tad t-~ere is frc~eway vlsit,tllty from thc v+est and witl, the one sign on
the east w~ll~ onyone c~Ming fram thc west to the eASt would not see the f~~cllity unt~l
they wcre past i t.
Comnissioner t3ushore stt~t~d the f~er.way ls vcry fnr .~way and cominy fmm the east, the
bi~ilding is at an Anr~le~ l~ut from the west~ trave~ling cast~ it is at ~~+ different t,ngle and
frum ~ greater dist~nce.
Mr. aeauregarc! stnted he had becn p~~st the bui lding tod~~y wi th tw~ ~ther pco~le in the car
(~Ir. end t"rs. Thrxnpson) And cominn fror~ the west to the cast~ the enci af the bu) ldin~ is
vislble. He stat~d he woulci h~ve n~~ ~roblem if this were the free-stnndinc~ sic~n bec~use
it would be two'sicied and eauld be seen from the east and west; that putting one sign on
the east end one sign on the west (s t+bsolutely v(tal for the sak.r of identificatlon stnce
most of their patronage is from pco~+le who h~ve never been there. He seatcd he had made
thFSe same rr.m.~rl:s t-~r~~c yeors ~~m wl~en hc ha~ trled to explain the siun situation and he
d; d not th i nE: tt~c request ( s un rcasonab le fur a queen-s i ze s i gn wh i ch i s about 13~ sn ua re
feet~ and clid nc.>t thinl: it Is a bic~ s~~)i~ fc~r ;he d(stance.
Cortmiss(oner Bushore steted this ts ~ big siyn for thc area.
Ghairwoman Dar•nes asked about the ;t-s,auara: foot sign~ and Dean Shercr stated that is thc
22-(nch high by 2a-foot long sign at tf~e front af the motel which is a permicted wall
stgn. He ,toted a~1-squarc~ foat wa11 sign would br_ pcrmltted on the east or west end of
the building~ which tS 1~,; of the face of the wall to which the siQn is goin~t to be
at tached.
Chain~+oman darnes clarifled that the petitloner would be allowed to have ane. 51-square
foot wall sign and that he is requestin9 one, S~~s~uarc foot wall sign and two, 13~•sq~!are
foot wal 1 si gns.
Commissidner Bushore statc:d he remembers sayin9 that the Qne stgn permitted was finr and
suggested the petitloner ccxne back anr~ request another sign for the other enci of the
bullding, only large-•. F~e stated regardless of the petitioner's Interpretatlon of his
cortments or the minutes, he would support one~ 13A-square foot sign on the east end, but
would not support a siyn of th~t size o~ the west end.
Mr. Beauregard state tt was pointed out at the prevlous mee:ting that on~ sign is allo~wed
under code and a request could be rnade for an additiona) sign~ and it was explalned a
waiver would have to be advertised. (Planning Commission Secret~ry expiained the
pecitioner was ~eferring to a draft of the minutes of Lhe meeting of September 10, 1979~
which have not been finalized and whtch ihe Planning Cammt~sion has not seen.)
Commisstoner Bushore stated he had rsat seen the mtnutes~ but fully unde tands his intent
was not for two, 13n-syuare foot signs~ but for one sign which would be allowed whlch ls a
9/2~/79
MlNUTES~ ANAIIEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ SEPTEMBER 2~~~ 1979 79-706
EIR CATEGORICAL EX~HPTION-CLASS 3 AND VARIANCE N0._ 3112 (cantinued)
51-squere foat siyn~ end the petitloner caul~J come in and ask f~r the one~ 13~-square foot
stgn on the eest end.
Commlssion~r Tolar stated I~c (s bothered by the applic~nt's interpr~tt~tion of the ml~utes.
F1e ateted onP of the ~rpblems I~r. has with this requesr is~ once the signlnc~ ordlnance ts
br~ker, in the scenic c~rridcr~ "Pandora's hox" would be opened. He stated the epplicant
seems to recallcct a lot n~rre tnan he does~ and he rcmemt~crs when the mot~l was prooosed
three or four y~ars ~~o and xeveral st~tements werc m~d~ rPgnrding the sie~ns; that the
Commissio~ under~tands hc has a hardshfp~ hut that th~r petitloner keeps referring to some
unwritt~n :.,;rrcr~nt thnt therc wauld br, a noas(I,illty when the mr.:c.! is finished to get a
sign. He stnted his recollecti~n af thts s~~mc meetln~ was that th~~ C~rnmission was
emphotie tt~nt the petl ttoner unci~rstoc~d that if h~ bui lt the r~otel ~ he. would 1 ive w( th the
slgn ~rdinance in the sceni~ corridor, fle stAt~~1 h~ also remcmh~rs that this sl~n cart-e up
an~1 the Cormisston was very emphatic that if thc c~tcl were built~ the petitioner should
not corie bocb; cryinr~ abou[ a hardship. He statr.d hr recoc~ntzes the petitloner h~as a
problem and [hat he (s tryiny to be understanding. -~c st~tcd the C~A~e-off with ,a free-
stendiny si~n is not e~ven ~ c~rea for d(scussion because there i5 na tr~de-off since a
free-standing sign is not al lc~v~cd.
Mr, Iicauregarci stated they arc allawed one wall sign on the south sic1~ of che buildtng~
lOh of thc syuAr~ footn~~c~ which wo~id amc~unt t~ ~~ 1~(~•sciuarr fo<~t si~an.
Cortx~~issiancr Tol~r stated th~~t ~+as the Siyn sh~r~n or~ the orininal rer~u~st, which was a
tPrriblc sign,
Commi ss i onc r E3uShore state~ he di d not th i nk therc w~~s any trade-of f t,crr_ ~+nd h~e had made
it vcry clear~ as onc Com+nissianer, t'~at he would r~ot support a frrc-standin~ ~ign, but
[hat he; would suppvrt onc variancc f~r one si~.an on tf:e e~ist r.n:i di the !>ullding~ not m
t.he west end of ihe huilding; th,~t thr_ petitione~ Mrould bc r~llawed on^ si~n and suggested
that hc ta~c thc onc si~~ an~i c~c bac~. for a v~~riancc.
Nr. Beeureg~~rd statcd thc siyns being discussed at that timr. were the one sigr, on the easi
end and thc onc ori thr_ wr.st encis of the building en~J hc had nevr.r talked ahout any other
si~ns because he was told they werc l~,ya1 5iyns and nc~ varianc;es wr..rc nced~d f~r anything
extept the one si ~n.
Cammissioner Nerbst ~sked if Lhc Dest Wesccrn sl~~~ w(th thc big crown on top is thetr
stendard~ loya-type sign anu as-:ed if they have a smaller on~~ bnd Hr. Beaurey~ird stated
th(s la thelr stand~rd loqo-type, queen-si=e sign and they probably cio havc a small one.
~iut hc dl d not Hnow the si zc.
Lortx~) ss loner Ne rbst stated he drl ves that area every day and agrces 1 t cannot be seen f rom
the free~ay~ but feit a smaller ~est Westcrn sign cl~ser tc the ordinances would be more
beneficla!. Ile steted this big sig~ wi11 not cfa the establishmer.t any go~d because it is
too bty, ond felt a smaller sign ~~ould br. rnore in kreplny w(th thc size of thc wall to
which it will be at*.athed, lie stat~d F~~ recogniz~s a sign could be p~t across the back
thar, could bc a lot bigger, but the one on the front v~ould nat ue Allared~ and agreed that
t~~ree algns are needed~ but that he cnuld n~t support thc size of [he xians propesed. He
feit it is up to the Commis~ton to see ;his establishr*ert gets the recr~gn(tiun it
deserves ~ bui fc) t the si ze of the sf gns si,ould be sr.~al ter and wi thin reason.
kr. 8eauregard staCesd he hes nevcr said anythi~i~ kncrvingly that was rtot the truth. Ne
sta*.ed this is a gueen-size sign and he could not yo to anything smaller because it wou1Q
not do any good, and stat~d this is the optnion of the 6cxt yestaern representatives. He
cxplained thls ls thc Best Wester~'s queen-size sign end there is nne Just up tl~e street
9/24/79
MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANt~INf, COMMISSION, SEPTEMDER 24~ ~17~ 79'7~1
EIR CATIGORICAI. EXE~IPTION-CLASS 3 AND VARIANC~ N0. 3112 (continued)
where thc frecwAys tntersect~ and It wes notcd that si~n is in the City of Ornnye. lia
stated he would nat personallY consldcr that to b~ o big Slgn end palnted out you tnnnot
get witl~in 700 fcet of hls motel si~n unlcss you Are on Imperlal Ili~hway~ ancf felc thAt Is
a very important pnint to co~si der.
Comm(sslo~er Toler .+s~_4<1 If the pctltione;r was cwiare of thc sie~n(nq ordlnance for the
scentc corridor when the motel wr~s huilt.
Mr. Bcaurr.c~ard stated h~ was aa+are of the ordlnances At ~+11 tirn~s and r~flectrd hack to
thc ffrst mceting and stated the sign sltuatior, c~r+~ up and he wns told thfs ws~s th~
scenic corridur~ end he felt this ts a heAUt~ful facllity br.ing huilt within the meanln!1
of the stenic carrldor. !le stt+ted at that timc he was told he wciuld f~e nllcxved tn have
one s( yn end he he~d madc thr remark that I f onc s i qn wes thc h~s t h~ c~u) ~1 d~. then he had
better go els.^.where~ and that he w~is yiven strong cncour++qrr~-rnt to co~+c~ b~ck. end request a
varlance for scxne[hi nq thet ~•K,ul cf not fyr f ln~rant c~ thc arPa. Hc s tnt~d hc b~l icves th ~t
aecordiny to thc ordinances hc is n~~rn+itted to put a slgn on thc south sidc ~f th~
buildlnq with~ the dlr~ensions of fi feet hl~~h by 3~~ fect 1ong, for e sl~n t~talln~~ -+C,~
sque~e fcet.
Chairv~ornan f~arnes stated thc Co~m~iss(on has bc~n inforr~cd thot tht square fc>otanc c~f the
siic of the bulldin~~ has t,een rrcalculate~l excludinq the windchc areas~ ~nd De~~n SherPr
stdteJ Che code rea~ls thc "wal) arw~" and that thr. windcM l~ed5 c~ul~i he excluded.
Commissioner Tolar statecf i f the pecl tioner w~nted th;-t t+~~~-s~1~iAre foc~t s i~tn and he cou~d
accampllsh what hP w~~nt5 to accamplish with It, then he w~~uld rrot he r+akiny this rPC~uest;
and that the Conr~isston canrx~[ s[~n hir~ ~-s lono as he cor~pl ies wi th t~~r c~d~.
(Cummis5lpncr HerGst pointcd uut (f f,~ has that si!~n~ t~se cx+e on th~ front aould not be
allow~d.)
Chai rwoman aarnes stated th~ Commi ss ion Is t ry i r~~ to work s~rr.;h i n~t out fnr thc net i t 1 oner
t~nd Lhat he wi I1 prohably gPt mare than ~tl•.cr p~c~Ql~ hav~ b~en allcyvred becnuse they want
his buslncss to flouris~~; that origin~l ly thsre~ w~s a lot of o~~positi~n to this motcl ~ but
the Cor~xnisslo~ had said they want it orid (t is necded. e~d the contrnvcrsy naw fs on the
size of the i1luminaLPd signs; ttiat onc~ >1-square f~sot sign Is ~c~~+itted~ but the
Corrm(sslcx~ feels two. 13f--squa~e foot signs are just ta~ rnuch. She stated th~ere must bc
smal Icr~ standard I3cst 4lestern sipns and shc fett the I~usincss wi I I flourisli with~ut a
s1gn~ ~ut recoynizes he probably nr.eds a sign ~n each r.nd of the bufieline~; hcrw~ver, the
Gomr*.issfon cbes not want to allow a frce-standinc; aiyn that would o~~cn "Pandora's box"
since the~e arc no frce-stardiny siyns in th~ area. She did rrot thin~. any Cor+missioner
woulci c~b)ect tc~ ~ loarpr~filr. ~~trence siyn in th~ front.
Comr~lsslaner Tolar stated h~ wants the peeit(c,ner to und~rstand LhAt t~e dc~es suaport this
mote) tn this area and fecls it is needed and it is a ntce fecili~y. Ne statrd rather
than dctay this~ tf the petittcx,er wculd stipulatc to cut thP size of the sign to 10~
squere fcct on coch end rather than 13~ squA~e fect~ hc wc .;d make a r•ec.om~enda~lo.~ for
appruvol for thc sign rn tl~e frant of the huild{ny for identtfication~ the entrance s(gn.
and twa~ 100-square foat si gns c-~ cach end~ but unl~ss the prti ttoncr is v~i 11 inq to
stlpulate to reducing the size ~f the signs~ he would support a matlcm for deniat.
Mr. Beaurr.gard stated the next smellest Best Wegtern siyn is 3 fect by ~~ feet. Ilc st.~ted
there is less square footagc t~ thc proposed slqns than there (s to tt~e exlsting sigc~s on
the texac,o servlr.~ statian In the same area.
Comnisstoner Toler stated zinGe xhis facility Is the only a~a (n the area that has a sign
both wmys COming dOwn the f rrcway , the i 1 1 umi nateci s i gn wI 1! stand out 1 I I:e a sare thumb
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C!R CATEGOaICAI E%ENPTIO-~-CLASS 3 AND VARIANCE N0._~112 (continucd)
beeause there are no other signs there. tle explalned the Conmtsslon can do nathing about
th~ Texaco sl ,yr~s bec~use th~ey wer~ tl~erc bPfore tl-e ardinance was odopted.
Car+unlssloncr 8ushore stated the more the ~ctitloner talks, thc more hc is against granting
a~y ~a~lanc~s; that he had seid he ~~ould vc~tc for thcA ;1•squAr~ foot siqn on the tJCSt end
~~d ayreed the slgn ix ne~ded on the cast end and suygestcd that a plan b~ br~ught back.
N~. Deauregard stt~ted the siqn wiil cx~~y Ge s~en frnn, a crrtain r~int. on thc~ freeway and
fclt (t would hardly be vlsit,lr from any ~ther place f~>r vcry lonc~ becausc the freewrY
curvcs. and wlth tl,e wo~,~ the but ldtng is sltuated~ you cAnnot see the slqn for a lonq
p~rlod of tlme and it wi 11 not bc s~~rn fro-~ th~ resi:lential area. Ite stated ' Is not
asking for a sl~~n any bi ,ye~r than he needs ~nd [h~t he~ Is confrunted wl th hav nci a sign
f~om the cntalocl or a n~anuf~+ct~reef sle~n~ which would cost nx~re rtnncy. tie stRted he does
not elassify thls es a bi~~ siyn hecnuse ~f tt~e dtstrnce fron thc~ freeway. 11e stated
experts have sald thc onlY thing ideniifi~bl~ fron thc free.a~ey wnuld hc thc pest Western
c ~c~n .
Comnisslo~er• Uushore siatc~~l the cx~lY concern rr.l~ting to the Sic~n ordinr+nce is not with
the people living In the hi lls. huc ~+lso the pAOpl~ q~in~ thr~u4h thc^ arc~; that the ~tgn
ori the west end dc~ns not have to be as largc br.c:ausc peoplc q~ing west arr Icavtng [he
a rea and startiny out thel y d~y. lic statecl hc would ~upp~rt a slor. on the east end, but
noth i ng on the wes t en d.
Cvnmissloner Tolar stc+tcd h~• fcit the Comnission has spent enough ti~rr trying te get
sorn~wherc wi th the pet i t iuner and i t doPs rxit appcar they can agree, ~md s tated he had
t rled to wor4: out S~~u~Lhlnq r~ascx~ablc by cutt`.nv cfown tl~e sizc ~f thc slgn and th~
petitioner was nut interrstecf,
1 t was nQtec! thc Planninc~ Di rector or hiS authorizcci rr.prescntatlve has determined that
the proPosed project falls wicl~tn t-~e Jefinltiw, of Catcgor(cal Cxem~tions, Class 3~ fls
deflnr_d in paragraoh 2 of thr_ City of An~heirn Envirnnmr_ntal Impact Fteport Guideltnes and
is, thercfore, catcyorically exer~pt from the requirement ta ~repar~ an EIR.
ACTIC~~: Comniss ioner Tolar offcred Res<~lut(o~ t~o. PG7?-1~1 and ~nved for tts passage and
a~op ~on~ k1~Ht thc Anaheim City Planning Com~~lssiun does t,ercby deny Petition for Variance
No. 3112 c~~ tl~e basis th~~t n~ hardship was dcmc~~istrate~! and on thc basis th~t the property
is locacPd ln the scenic corridor overlay zo~e, ~~nc: an undesir~ble p~ecedent would be
estab 11 shed.
Qn ro11 cal l~ thc foreg~ing resolut(on was passed ty the fol lowiny vote:
AYES : COhNISS I~1~CR~ : BAPNES~ BU51't~RE ~ Ul~VI 0~ FRY ~ KItIG~ 70LAR
NOES: COM1115510~iCR5: NERBST
AdSENT: COt~11115~ IO~IERS : ~~Ot~E
J~ck White. Deputy Gity Attorney, presentecl che petitioner with the written ri~ht t~
appeal the Plannlny Comni ss ion's deci siQn wf thtn 22 days to th~ Ci ty C~uncl 1.
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MINUTES~ ANAFIEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSIDN~ SEPTEMUER ?.~~ 197~ 7~'7~9
I TEM ~~0. 4 PU~L I C 11EAR1 NG. OWNER ; B I RCII R I D~E' ES TATES ~~~?~~2
ENVI ONf~NTAI IMPACT REPOR7 Campus Drlve~ P. ~. Box 1Gf,A~ Newport B~nch, C~
1~0. 1 (ADOENDU~1 N0. 1 9?.6(,~. AGENT: R I CIIARD L. 041C~t } 42~~2 G amp us Orl ve ~
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EN ~~f' OF TRACT N0. 1~R~1~ consisitng oC e~prox(matcly 3.5 Acres ic~cnicd
' on the n~rthwest sid~ of Sllvcrspur Tra il, nnd bct~~i
located nn~roxime[~ly 17~ feet et+st ~f the ccnter-
line of Covercd Wagon Tratl; and Port lon 4- An irrcnularly•shapcd narce) of land
conslstin~ of appr~r.irnntcly 5.~~ acres l~c~~ted ~n thc Southcast s(~ie of Stlv~rsQur Trall,
bcing a~pproxlmately 21~ f~et ~ast of thc centerlin~ oi Covcred Weqon Trntl. P r~perty
prescntly clas~ifted RS-NS-1~~^00(SC) (Restde~tlal, ~~lnylc-F~mily Hillsidc-Se~nic CorriAor
Overlay) Zone.
REQUESI'ED GLASaIFIC~,T10-d: Rrt-3~~~(SC) (RE51I)EtITIAL, i~1UlTIPLE:-Fl1MILY-SCENIC
~nn,a~ pqR OVERLAY) 20'dE.
RCQucSTE D vnr I N~C~: : wni vE. ~ ~ F nnx i Mur STPUCTU~n~ Hf I GHT.
TEI~TATIVE TfJ~CT RCQUEST; bE~-LOT~ ~~-~-UNIT~ RM-3~ro(SC) CQND~MI~IIUM SU(~DIVISin•i,
There was na one i ndi ct+t Ing thel r ~resence ( n oppos 1 ti on to s~.~1~ jec t reques t. and al though
the staff r~port ta th~ Plannin9 Comnlssio~ d~~ted ~e~tentier 24~ 1^7~ Wgs not re~~d et thc
oublic h~ariny~ It Is re~~rred to rnd made n part of the minutes.
Richard Oweri~ agent~ expl~ineci the rcason fnr th(s rcqucst ic an ~co~ornic o~e becauxe they
want to reduce the coct of the homes In thls ar~a, ond stated this T~~ ^,q classi ficatlon
will ellow them to bulld ln ~~ lrss expersivc cateclory, Croh~hly ~n t' rfln9r of ;115~00~
to S1~~~~OQ~; that the plans are (-~ conformar,ce with the zoning anrl thc Gerie~~l Plan; that
t~e hos a lettcr from the property cnvnc,rs tr, the lrtr+edir,tr ~+~st and north~ Indicat~ng they
do noi oppo5e Lhr_ reque5t; anc~ thet the traffic iMpr~ct (n tt,e area will he mi nlmal. Mr.
Owen presenteJ the Cortx~(sston wI th an ~r.hibit shc~•~ing ~ pmJe!ct Simi l~,r to the pra~~sal
with squs~c foatages ranging from 1~+7~ squar~ fcrt to ovcr ?n~n sq~~arc fcet.
A1 Crisp~ V.T.~J. ~?. i~1 Car~us Drlve, I rvinc~ sca:~d a tr~ffic s~rvey was do~~ and th~
increase tn density of thr propos~~l is mcasurAbic on the avcragc of 1Q~ vchicular trlps
per day, wi th !~~Ox on thc futurG A~~hr. im H1 l ls Road and the other ~~,~ al c,n~ Nohl Ranch
Road.which c;onitiCutes less than 1/3 of ~" of the ultir+x~tc~ trRffic ~ror~sect by thr.
ConSultln~ enginccr for Anahelm lii Ils, I~,c. in ig~i. He skated the.re wl ll be some
upgracfing of tl,e underground uti littes and t!~r strect Sn~rovements ~~re ~0`t, ec~mplrted; that
the lot sizes arc more than adequate, cven though they werc unablt co come up wlth RS•5~~~
size pads for every slCe~ whlch is tl~e reason they r~ave requested the RN-3(10~ zoning~ and
the lhts avcrage 400Q syuarc feet and thc miiiimum siae ts u~Qf1 squarc feet. with some
yreater than E3000 squere fPet; that RS-500C housing is devcloped to thc nortti and
northeast and Rhh3~00 to thc east, Nh6ch dc,cs not provide thc livable space this
devetopment w111 provtcie; and that they feel !his serves as a huffer to the residential
dcvelopments t~ tf~e ens[~ west and northwest. 11e stated this prnJect. provides rrbre
1(vable space and thcy feel thesc arp *.hc outstanding qualities of the proposed
deve 1 opme n t.
THE PUI3LIC NF.ARING WAS CLOSFD.
Cortmissloner 9ushore asked ( f the propcrty owncrs locat~d where Bri yhton way turns Into
Silverspur were natified of this hearing~ end it r+as dr,termined thc~ develop~rs of chose
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MI~IUTES~ AWIHEIM CITY PLANNING COMNISSION~ SEPTCMPER 24~ 1973
79- 7, o
EIR N0. 1~7 (~pDENpUM N0. 1), REClAS51FICATIO~~ N0. 79-$A-?3~ VARIAtICE N0. 311; AND
TCNTIITIVE MAP OF TRACT r10. IOE300 (contlnued) ,,,_
propertles as shown cx~ the tax nssessor's bool:s were notified and th~~c pr~~erty owners
wlthin 3!1rt feet as ll~ted on the tax essessor's roics wer~ natificd.
Comnlssioner Herl~st was concerned about the 21~ pa~king snaces, and Dean Sherer~ Zeniny
Representat I ve ~ exr lalnec! a ~~rrcct ion shpuld be ru+dcA to the staf f re~port ~~ar~gr~ph (9) ~
shawlny 17h par~~.ing 5~1AC1'!5 rAthc~ than 7.17 and a par~.in~ ratio of 4,r1 r~~thcr than ~+.'1. Hr.
explained thts figure l~cludes thr tanden spaces in the drtvcway And the enciosed sp.~ces
in the gnrag~,
Commisstcmer Nerb~t was concerned ~bout the numb~r of unlts on the cul-de-sac wlth 1~
drlvewnys bac~:~ng out ont.o one cul-dr-sac..
Mr. Crlsp statPd staff', conccrns after thc Interrtep~yrtrnent~+l Comr~ittee r~eetlnc~ bas(cAlly
were that there was no street p~ir~ lnq in th~ cul-~le-sac nnd indicated they undr.rstc~od thnt
an~! those spaces were nc+t counted in thelr park(nc; rec~uirements.
Cnmmisstane~r 6ush~~r~ ,~s~.ed if thnse rc~sldents can pt~rG. ihcir c~rs in the drive~ways and
st 1 I 1 open the gar~c~e doors ~ and Mr. Owen repl (eci that thcy eou) d,
Cortmissloner lierbst felt thts rr~ny drlveways wl[h~ut any spnca betwcen them would overlord
the tul-de-sac; that he sces thr devclo~er as taking the st~ndor~ Ra-1'1,~~"1 lots and
cutttng them in r,~lf; and that it is not desl~~n~d f~r the purpase of cnndoninlum
develonmenc. tle felt putttng thls ~uch drvelopment ar~und thc cul-dc-sat ~~ill Ic~ok ltke a
row of houses w( thaut any bre~ks, Ile stated there are ~ lot of c.ul-de.^s~~cs in tlie city~
but most are allowed to h»ve only s~v~n units. Ne did noi think this is ~~ gcx~d dcst~n for
the people l iving thcrc wi th evcrycx~e h~ic~.~ny out that clos~.
Chairwoman Elarnes SLALP.C~ she is c~ncerned about that and Lhe ,yuests pa~~:inr~ nn the- cul••c~•-
sac and th~ fact that this is a~~1i-unit development w(thout recreatlonsl f.~,c!~lcles ~r
som~~lace for the ch( ldren to p1aY, and stated the only proJect a~~rov~d wi th~. u[
recreation faci li ties was a 24-unit projett which had A lot of open spacr and there was no
traffic through i t.
Mr. Crisp refcrrcc to Lot A and st%~fc' ~L ~s av~i lablc far recreational use or p~rkinq if
~arking becomes a crlti~P~ probir.~~+. ~le stat~~' the recreatlonal ~rea wtll be ~~s the
Planntng Commission des:res. Ne stated .hey ~~~~vc pc~tential mer~ership in the tc~n~s club
which is not neCC55%sriiy expressed ln the a~c 1~cAticxl~ but ic has been discussed with the
developer and it is thetr noticx~ to ~,tili~e the facilities on i~and.
;ommi s~ lonc r I3ushore di d n~t fcel therR~ i s adequ~tc room far a tenn 1 s cour; on th i s
property. and Mr. Crisp stated hc vras r~ferring to making use of the existinc~ t~nnis
courts in the area~ not on th(s property.
Commissioncr Bushore clarifled the v~cant lot is to he used as a trade-off for e(ther
parking or recreatlonal faci lltfes.
Mr. Owen potnted out an arca owned 5y the City of Anaheim for park purposes north of Nohl
Ranch R~ad and a private tennls club in the area, explaining they plan tA pr~vlde
membershlp in tt~at tennis club for thelr hamevwners and st~ted there is not a lot of flat
area for chi Idren ta play basebal l, but did not thl~k havtng duplex~s rather than single-
family unlts would affect that situat(un. and felt people buying the homes wtll recognize
there ts n~t e baseball field around their homes.
Lommissloner 7olar pointed out thc exist~ng and proposed ~F~-3~~~ developments in this area
and stated the developers are inciicating thei~ marketing surve;s show we need ehat stylc
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MINUTCS~ ANAH~IM CfTY PIANNING COMNIS5101~~ SEFTEMDER 24~ 1979
79-711
EIR N0. 197 (ADOE~~DUM NQ, 1)~ AECLASSIFICATIOl1 N0. ~~-80-1j~ VARIANCC N0, j~~~~ l1t~0
TENTATIVC MNP OF TRl~CT N0. IOfl00 (contlnued)
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ef I I vi n~ And fel t the hi I 1 s end c.~+ny~ns are
af the pcoplc l-v1n~a thcrc wt 11 bP trr~acted,
proJeets In this eren nnw. all yrantcd undor
start ovcr 5150~~0~.
golny t~ be over-imp~cted and the llfestyles
lie steted there arc th~ce bty cnndomintum
the qulse of econamic housing, all of whtch
Commfssioner Nerbst statcd these h~uses w~l) be larger th.~n the av~ra~~~ homc In the dren
And wlth unttS of tt~is st~c an thr. lot~ t~~~rc r~ill bc no open spnc~ or a plecc f~r the
children to play ~xcept an the slo~~s~ end there ts nothing to rP~lacr, the rr.cr~atlonAl
amenitles and chlldren wit) play in the str~ets. '+c statcd hc livcs In onc of thcsc flreas
and he lf~;r.s it~ but tl~c chil~'ren da ricir their s~.ateboards and pl.iy (n the streets~ hut
that th~t rroJect is Isc~lat~d ~nd the ~ro(~~5ed ~roject Is on Anahclm !I; l ls i~ir~d end
Silverspur Trnll~ wh(ch are both throuqh streets. He statc•c! this wrs one are~ nf c~neern~
in ad~lltlon tn thc f~ct thrrc ls nn ~,l~~c~ for ~ucsts t~ ~Ark ~n th~ cul-~ie-sac.
Mr. Owen stated hr co~~curs wl[h sc~me of the comments regardln~ the par~.inc~ nnd that they
h~ve considered this would he a prnblem and could use o~rti~n of Lot A for additlonAl
parking. He stt~t~d thcy h.~ve ccxnplled ~~~Ith the crdinances and denslty as shown on the
Gene~al Plan.
Cammissloner Busl~c~rr statrd thP ordln~ncrs are mini~um st.indar~fs .~nd ci~ not nrcessarlly
flt every project~ ~nd stetcd he felt this is onr. of tl~e worst pro;~cts he has sr..en in a
la~g tlme; that there are no nr~enitir..s for the pc~~~le .~~d nc, place for the chi idren to
pley and no plocc for thc C~nants to have thelr guPSts {~~rE., a~c1 that Lot ~ fs being
offered for either park~nc~ r recreatlon and he dc~es not lik~ the tr~d~-off And wants tc~
se~ a ni~~~ly designsd pmjc.ct whtch will enhAncr the surrnun~iin~ propcriy. He sug~ested
!he de.vslaper ~iiscuss chr~ Planning Corr~iss(on's cicsires wlth Anaheim Hills~ Inc. Ne
stateci thls plan shows nocl~ing that ~.~f 11 mAG:r.. him wari t~ i~pact this ar~a with that ~.fnd
~f hc~using. Nc stated he ts als~ concr.rncd bcc~~usc the h~~~p'^ to thc nort~~ of subject
~aerty have not hren noCific~i and fctt surc thosc prn~+ic wo~~l~ ift.e to havc sorr~ say In
~nis development because thoss are the homes closest to the cul-~le-~ac~ and he felt the
guests wauld be par~:ing in f~~nt o~ these hamrs.
C~rtmissloner Tolar as~.ed ~bout :he proposed projects already approvcd °or 14-~ units on the
othe~ two proJects to the north in that arca~ and Itr. O~.:en replied that hr. owns 57 lots
And has owned them f!~r two years.
Corrmis~toner Tolar stated tl~ere arc il~~ RM-30~0 units which have been approve~ in that
area and fe~lt tt~is plan meets the criteria t,ecause of the open sp~ce~ but that the open
space is mostly slc,pPs. He stated hc does not see the need for morP of this type houstng
in that area; that no par~.iny his been created for gucsts a-~d no on-site ar-enitfes nor
recreational facllit(es have been provided, and stated he could not support this reque~t
as presente~. I1~ state~l he is interested in mo~~ hausing and r~coc~n(Zes a higher density
will have to be c~eatcd to permit law-cost housing~ and if these units wcre gainy Lo be
selltng in the price range of S7~~~~0 to 58n~non~ thcn he would he more Interested In tha
higher ~ensity.
Mr. Owen expleined these u~i ts wi 1) be 1470 square feet to ?_OOC sGuare fcet and the pr(ce
range will be from $11r,~1~~ to $145~00~.
Chairwoman E3arnes stated she felt there sl~auld ~e samc s~rt of staff study as to the
number of Londoninlun c~~y*iopmr.nts which are existina or approved. She felt the property
owners should have been . tified ~nd stated tl~e Cartmission has never allowed a project
like thls with no guest u~.tricing and has always required on-s3te recreatlonal ar~as and she
could not vote for the project without some parking and ~ecrtational facalities being
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MINUTCS~ Al1AI3EIM CITY PLANNI~IG Cl1MMISSION~ Sf.PTEME1fR 21~~ 197~ I;~-712
EIR k0. 197 (AOOEHDUM N0. 1)~ RECLASSIFICATI01~ f10. 7'1-8b-13~ VARiA11CE N~. ~>>`.~ AND
TENTATIVE MAF' OF TfWCT N0. 10800 (continucd)
pr~vided, She Indiceted shc was elso cmnccrncct about traffic into th~ ~roj~ct An~i
su~gested the develon~r ~sk for a cantlnunncc and sub~~lt r~v(scd plrns.
Commisstoncr Kiny stt+ted thcrr_ ds r nced for u>nd~~^~in(u~~,s snd fcit if somcthiny is n~t
dcN~c M C~~'~vide housing f~r rrx~dcrate-InCOmr peapl~~ thr ryoV~l'nrtk!n~ wlll strr tn And sce
~hat rl Is done,
Comnissioner Devtd ~sked ht~w th~ drvel~pcr knows thr renulr~ments for recrc~ttonal/lelsure
areas~ and Oeen Sherer explalnec' norm~illy a sltr ~lan is revi~~~rd int~rdc~artm~ntally
prtar to Its submltt~+l tr, thc Plann;ng Commisslc>n~ ~r,d state~l thc develop~r was ~fware of
the code~ requlrcrnents for recreat(on<~l/Ie~lsure sp~ces~ hut, ln th(s n~rticular instanc~~ he
was using thc prd areas for mr_rttn~~ that requir~r~nt,
Mnika Sant~lahti~ AsslstAnt Uirector for r'.onin~a~ scatr_~1 thc st.~ff is :+wAr~ of thc
Conr~(551on's coneerns o~d dnes dtscuss [h~se conc~rns wi th the ,ievel~~cr5 when these
proJects ar~ prescntccl~ and that parkin~~ nnd us~~t~le r~crPational/l~lsur~ s~~~c~ arc thc twa
standerd concerns ~f(scussed. She steteci~ r~latinc~ to usnble recr~atlon~il/lfisure space,
the codc does not S~~y it has to k>c c~rtnc~n r~crcitlonal spr~c~~ hut strn{~ly SAyS you have to
hov~ open~ usablc ~ecrr.~ti~~nal spt~ce ~iliich rwiy ~e prlvr~te ~r c~m~n~ and the developcr has
the choicr_,
Commfss{oner Herbst asked hcrv staff deftnes "usat~lc arc~i"~ and shc re~lled it ls the flat
area around tl~e pads. Shc statc:f thc codc rcquirement for this ZOne ts 12Q0 iquare feet
per unl t anci~ cornpareJ ~•+i th single-faril ly dcvelr~~rrnt~ Is not a huue amc~unt ~f open sp~ce.
C~mmissloner Qav(d askr.d v+hetticr the dcvcloper is a.lvised of the Planninq Comn~ission's
current thinG,ing~ and AnnlE.a Santalahti cxplAlned thn code requires 3•~ 5p~ace:s per ui~(t
for parking an~i the staff encourages the.m to provid~ more spacc, but that 3.; does meet
code reyui rement. She ex~lained t~nclen spaces would h~ve Co he coun[e~f ns extra spaces
and coulc! ^ ~ t,~: cons(~Sered as a part of m~eting the code requi~ement.
Commisstoner Iierbst stated this arca has been genrral planned for RS-10,'l~~ and all the
public utilitie~s~ sewers~ water~ etc. have been planned for that de-nsity and now the
proposals are dout>led what the area was gener~l plannc~l fo~~ and hc felt eventually
someone wil) run out of scrvPces because the utilities were not planned f~r this high
densi[y.
Mr. L~w~-•~ stated thc densities proposed tn the area arc lcss than arhat the area is zoned
for a -~t lt was ~en~:ral planned for~ a~d those things have all been approved. He
stat~ .,ould revise the plan to provtde p~rking; that this pr~Ject is addiny 22
familir:~ on about 20 acres and ti~ey did not think the irpact of 92 familles on that much
area is a significant factor, particularly when you consider ;,'i the existtng recreattonal
opport~nittes avai;able in thr ~heim Hills area~ su~n A5 the tennis courts, the qolf
cou~se. the park~ etc.~ and tt:.;. adding recreational facilitics to the pro~ect would add
slgnificantly to the homea~wners' payments.
Commissioner Qushore scated the exlsttng facilities .:, the area cannc~t be used by the
small child~en. 11e suggested the petitioner requesk a conttnuance and revise the plans to
show parking which will not impact the are:a and s~me usable recreationai area shauld be
added, and indicated he was not reAlly requesting a swimming pool or tennis courts be
provided~ but there should bc some rPCr~ationa) area b~scause the buyers and Planning
C~rrmissloners have to llve wltF~ tfie deciston after the developer goes on to anothe~
project and the developer does not real ize the ul ttmate impact of the projGCt on the area.
9/2i~/79
MIt~UTLS~ ANAIIEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSI0~1~ SF.PTEMBER 2~~~ 197~3 ~`~"~~3
EIR N0. 197 (AODEI~DUM H0. 1)~ RECLASSIFICATION N0. 79-~-13~ VARIA~~CE N0. 311; ~-~p
TCNTATIVE MAP_ OF TMCT N0. 10$00 contlnued -
Commissioncr Tol~~ stated th.it adding 22 femilles to the s~rea Is an ad~iit(onel 9L' pe~ple
and even In Lake Surtmit. which has very narrow str~cts with no perking, therc is a
recraatlonal butlding And a poal, and stntcd he felt this pr~ject would hav~ to have S~irx~
kl~d of recreationel facllittcs. even though thr.,re Ar~ recreation~l facilitles in thc
Anehalm ~ltlls nrca~ beceuse peoplc have to drivc hac~ end f~rth to q~t to those r~nd the
chlldren cannut drlve to thr.m and more trlp c~unts per day waul~l he cr~nted. -1e stAted
the resldentlal trAffic I~as to go right thr~ugh thts proJcct nnd the f~anninn Commisston
hss not allowed that typc sltuatlon !n the ~ast. I~e f~lt the developcr needs to
reevaluate the proJect.
Mr. Owen stated he w~u1~1 liV.c to rcquest o continuanc~ ~f two we~c4.s, ~ifter Chalrwonan
~~rnr.s explalned ~lans must br, submittrd hy Friday in ordPr to be I~cAr~i at thc nert
mecti ng.
ACTIUN: Comrnlssloner Tolar offcrcd a mc~iion~ scca~ded hy Cor~nissloner I:tn~; and MOTIO`:
~`~~p~ that consf ~ierat lon of Envi rannxnt:+~ ~mract Rcport -lo. 1~37 ~~c1~Pndum ~lo. 1) ~
Rcclassificatlon I~o. 7^'IIQ-13~ Vartancc !~o. 311~,~ and Tentattvr. MAp of Tract ~~o. 1~~~~ be
continuEd to thc regularly-schecfuled mecting of tt~e Planning Commisslon on Oct~ber 8~
1q~9, at the request of thr. petl tlaner In ordcr to subr~l t revlsecl plans.
R~CC55
_.__ Thc meeting was recessed at 3:35 P•m•
RECONVE~~E
------ The meeting was r~cconvened at ;:~~~ P.m.
ITEM N0. S PUDLIC HEAP,ING. ~4lMEf': CLnSSIL DEVELOPMFNT GORP,,
~`JE DECLAFATIQ-1 17~:A?. M1 tchcl l tlorth~ Sui tc A. I rvi nc. CA ~?7~4.
REQUEST OR APPR VI1L OF AGEN7: SNALLER L LOIIR~ INC~ 1;03 Sauth Coast Drive~
REMOVAL OF SPECIMEN TREES Suite ?.~3~ CosCa I~ksa~ CA 92G2G. Pcti tioner requr_sts
- APPROVAL OF aEMOVI',L OF 'R10 SPEC~ ME-1 TREES on ~~~~p~~ty
descr(hed as an irregularly-shaped p~ircr..l af land
consisting of a~proximately 5.2 acres having a frontagc ~af approximately 834 feet or~ the
norkhwest side of Santa Ana Canyon Road, havin!~ a maxir~ur+ dep[h af approxima;ely 4~~a f~et,
and betng located approximaraly 1800 fe.ec northeASt of the centerlinp of Mohler Orive.
There was no one indicatiny their presence In opposition to subJect request. an~l althc' ~gh
thc staff report to the Planning Commission dat~d Septemhcr 2~~. 1q7~ was not r~ad at the
public heAring~ it ts rFfcrred to and madt a part of the minutes.
Haury t~ichols, Classlc f3evelopment Corporatian~ owner. was present to answer any
questions.
TIiE PUaLIC HCARING WAS CLOSED.
ALTtO~J: Commissic~ner Y.tng offered a motion~ secanded hy Comnission~r Nerbst and MOTtOi~
~D. that the Anaheim Clty °lanning Commissicx~ has revlewcd thc requcst for removal of
two specimen trees on an i rregularly-shaped parcal of land conslsting of approxlnnately 5.2
acres having a frontage of approximately 8~4 feet on the ~orthwest side of Santa Ana
Canyon Road~ having a maximum depth of approxlmately 4-~0 feet, and 5eing lac~ted approxi-
mately 1$00 feet northeast of the centerltne of Mohler Drive; and dae5 hereby apprave the
Negatlve ~eelsratlon fram the requirement to prepare an environmental impact rep~ort on Lhe
basfs that there ~outd be no signiflcant i~dividuel or cumulaXivs adverse environmental
impact due to the appruval af thls Negative DeGtaratfon; that no sen~itlve envlronmental
9/24/i9
;
MINUTCS, ANAIIEiM CITY PLl1NNING COMMISSION~ SEPTEMaER 24~ 1979 79'11~
CIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND REQUEST FOR APPROVl1l OF aEMOVAL OF SPECIMEN TREES (contlnued)
..._._.. -
imp~cts are InvolvaJ ln the prop~s.~l; that the Initlal Study submittcd by the petitloner
inaicetes no siqniflct~nt lndivldual ar cumulAtivc ~~dverse envir~nmental Impects; and that
the N~yative Declnratlan s~bstanttating the foregoing findings Is on filc in the City of
Anahcim Rlann~ng Ikpartmcnt.
Cc-mmlasioner King offered a motlon~ seconJed hy Cormission~r N~rhst ~~nd MOTIQ-I C~RRIEO~
tha~ thc Ans~hair+~ City Planninq Corr~,Isslon ~lors h~reby grant the requ~st for remavel of two
sp~cimen tree un thc basis that thc reasonablr. and prACtical develupmr.nt of the property
~n which the lrees arc loc~~teci rr.ryulr~s rcrnUV.~I ~f tl,c trec5, an<f that subsr.r~urnt
cvaluatt~n of tt~c• ~rading And cc~~nstrur.cion opcr~~tt~ns havc rrWCalcd two addttl~nal
s~~ecimen tri,es wcu1J nrecl tc~ hc rn,rxrvr~! in addition [~~ thc flve nppr~ve<i for Tentetive Mdp
of Tr~~ct rla. 102~;4.
iTLN N0. f, PUULIC HEI1R1"~G. 01Jt~C~.: S7. MAR1;S UNITEC METNQOIST
tl . N f~ IVL OCCI. nRATI~'~`I CiIURCF:~ 37~~ uest Oranc~r Avenu~~ llnahe(m, CA ^21304.
Rf.CLASS I FI GI~TI n!~ I~C. 7.'1-$~- ~~ AGE11T : uIILTCR FOPSYTFIC ~; t~ South aroo4;hurs t St rcct ~
~1 , t1 E t~0. 111+ AnahelM~ CA ^2n0~~. Propcrty described as a
rcctan~~ul~~rly-shapzd parc~l of lind consistlnq of
approxir~tcly 0.7 acrc havin.~ ~i frontag^ ~f approxl-
nateiy 7.3~ feet on tf~e n~rtl~ sidc of Ilun~a~l) Urivc~ havinq a maximum depth of approxl-
mately iZc~ feet. anJ befn~7 lc~cated approxic~,~tely 7~0 f~et w~St of the centerl ine of Y,nott
~+i~d further Jescri;,cd as 31"1 WcSt Mungal l Drlve~. Pra~erty nr~sently c1 ~ss? f(ed
Strect
,
RS°~,• t~;,~l~O ( RC ~ I ;1f:'ITI AL/A(',R I Cl!LTU'tC.L) 70'IE.
RE~ULS7ED CI.AS'.~IfICATIQI:; P.M-1?.~7 (RCSIDENT{~1., HULTIPLE-FAMILY) .'_~!lf..
RE;UES7CR vnrir,~,CC: ~JAIVER OF (!1j t+l,XIHUM Qt11LDIt~G -IEIGIIT AND ([t) PCR-+ITTEJ VEf~ICULAR
ACCC`.iS~ i^ CCI1STRlJfT AN li',~U~IIT AP/~,1'71'E~!1T C(1NPLFX.
Ti~ere wa, n4 onr lncfi~atiny thefr pre~sence in oppositio~ to subject request~ and although
che staff report tu the f lanniny Co~(ssion dated S~pterr~ec' 21-~ 1~7~+ ~~as n~~t rcad at thc
pu~,lic hc~riny, ic 1, refcrred to and made a part of the minutcs.
tlalte~ Forsythe~ ayen~~ Jal.e Culvcr, and .Jim Parkcr were present to ansv+er any ques[tons.
THE RUQLIC HEA~ING WAS CLOSEO.
Lomr~~ssioner lierbst asb.ed staff if the allcy as sl~o~m on thc plans is adcquate for acc~ss~
~nd Dean Sherer, Zoning ftepresentativc~ indicated it is adequatc as far as staff is
concerned.
C~~nrnission~r E;ushore stated the wt~ule street is currently developed as apartments dnd he
nas noticec! a lut of restcients parking on the street, and was concerned t-:ere v+lll be
y~;est parking averftch~ into th~ street.,
Mr, Parker statcd h~: was to the sit~ at lcast five different times duriny the afternoon
and th~re was no par~.in3 on the street~ but that it fs passible there would be some
overflow. t!e 5tated they have complied with the minimum code requirements.
CommiSSioner King stat~~d i~~ had been at thc site at a:30 a.m. on Sunday and there were
only two vehicles parked on the south side of the apartmenLs most westerly.
g/24/79
MINUTES~ At~AHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSl~~~, SEPTCMDER 24~ 1~79 79-71}
E I R N~GAT I VE: D~CLARIITI ON ~ RECLAS51 F! CATI ON N0. 7a-$0-12 AND VARI ANCE ~IO. 3) l l~ ( cont i nued)
Comm(ssloner Dushor~ (ndlcated he had becn by thc slte At 11;~~ a.m, cxi Sunday and the
church parklny lot was full~ and askeci if thc churct~ is planninc~ any future expanslon thet
would requirc odditic>n.~l parking~ and Mr. Forsythe responded that thcre arc no future
plans except for expanslon of the present buildlny for ~~ses at diffe~ent tirtx~s~ with no
Increase (n pnrking requlred.
ACTION; Cormiissloner Kin~~ offc.red a motion, se~ondccf by CommisSioner ~lerbst and MOTI~N
~_
CIIRRIED~ that th~ M ahelm Clty Plannin~ Commisslon has revlewed the ~r~pQS~il to reclasslfy
the subJcct pro{~rrty fr~m t-~~~ RS-A-W3~~Q~ (Residcntlal/A~~ricultural) zonc to the RM-12~~
(ResiJential~ Nultiplc-Famlly) tonc wlth waivcrs of maximur; bu(ld(ny licinht and permttted
vehicular acc:ess to construct an 1~'-unit a~artment c~mplex on e rectangularly-shaped
parce) of lend consis[ing of .opproximat~ly 0.7 acre~ havinc~ ~ frnntAC~e of approxlmatr.ly
230 fcet an thr. north side of Mungall Orlv~~ h~ivinq a maximum depth c,f oppraxim~tely 1?.~
fcet. and be(ng l~cated a~proxlcu~[cly 7;0 fect west of the centeriinc of Knott Street; and
does hereby anprov~ the Nc•c~ative Declaration frc-m thc requlrr_ment to preparc an
enviranmental ir~~»ct reoort on the hasls th~it therr. ~rould he no slgnificant lndfvf~tual o~
cumulativc odverse environr~ant~til imp~ct duc t~ the approval of this Negative Declaratior
slnce thc AnAheim General Plan deslyn~tes ihe subj~ct ~ran~rty for mrdlum-dr,ns(ty
residentinl land uscs conrnensuratc wlth the pro~asal; ch~ic no sensitive envfro~ricntal
(np~cts ~3rp invc,~lvrd in the propas.il; t~~a[ the Initial Study ,ubmitted hy the p~~titiorcr
indicates no si~~nificant indivlaual c~r cum~~lativr. acJverse environmental im~~+cts; .ir~+1 th~t
the !~egative Uecl~ar~tir,n substantiating the fnr~_yninf~ findin~s is on 'filr in the C~ty of
Mahr_ir~ F'lannln~~ DeE~artment.
Lonm(,siancr King offered Resolutian t1o. PC/~-lh2 and ricvrci fnr (ts n~~ssa7e an;f a-'optinn,
that the Mahcim City Plannin~ Commissie.~n does hercby yrant Pc[i[ic,, for Rec!.1551fic~tion
tJo. 79-~0-i?_~ subject Lo Interck~artmen[al Cummittee recommcndations.
U~~ rol l cal 1~ tf~c forcyoi nc~ resol ut ion ~•r~,s ~~,ssc~f ~y the fol lowi r~c, v~~cr. :
AYCS: CUMl11SSI0~lf_R5: ElAR!IES~ (iUSNORE~ GAVID~ FR1'~ IIEPB;'~ KIt~G~ T;;I.i~P,
~~OCS : CON~11 SS I OI~E RS ; ~!~'~E
ApSEla7: C011HISSIOfI~:RS: NONC
Commissioner hing offcred Resulution !~o. PC79-1~3 and mc>ved for ic; ;~assage and adoption,
that the Anaheim Clty Pldni,iny Commissian does hereby grant Petition for Variance t~o. 3114
on the basis that surr unJl~g propcrties are currently devclopcd as mult(~le-family uses,
and although the adjacent property to tt~e west is currently zoneu RS-A-G3~000
(Residential/Agricuitural}~ lt is deslynated on tlie General Plan for medium density
residentinl land uses and strict applltatlon of [F~e zoning code would deprive the property
of privi leges enjoyed by other properties under iden[ital z~ninn classification in the
vic;inity~ and subject to Inierdepartn~ental Co~r+~lttee recomraendations.
On roll call, the foreg~ing resolution rras passed by the followiny vo[e~
AYES: COMMISSIQNERS: [iAR~~ES~ 6USI~OR~~ UAVtQ~ fRY~ NFRBST~ KIIJG~ TQLAR
f~0E5 : COMMI SS I 0'IE RS ; I~ONE
A.BSEI~T: COhu11 SS! ONERS: NOP~E
9/24/79
~
MINUTES~ ANAIIEIM CITY Pi.ANNING COMMISSI~N~ SEPtEMBER 24~ 1979
79~715
ITEM N0. 7 PUDLIC I~EARI~~G. OWtIEP,: REGE"I
Huntington Be
Grrficld Avenue CY PLl17A~ 100~2
ach, CA 926~6.
~
E DECI.na~TIOr1
AGEfJT; TRI-ST/1TE ENGINEEaI~~G
1085~ COMPA~IY~ 615 South
i
N ~IO.
Raymond Avenue~ Fullerton~ CA 92G3~• Qub'~
~Cf~S
pr~perty~ consisting of appraximately
having a frontega of t~proxlmataly 4;0 fcet on the snuth slde of Ball
~
~ Road, havtng o
'
t
f
maximum depth of ep~roxlmate~Y ~~furthc•r desc~rtbed~a~
Da11
15~+Or~esc
d proposed As
is
Road~
centerline of Euclid Street. on
t~ one-lot~ 22•buildl~c~~ RM-1~04 subdivision.
There was no one indtcating their presence in oppositlon to subject
1~7~
tcmbcr 21~
~ Se
d
t
i re~uest~ and nlthough
~~as nat re-~d at t`~e
~
p
r~
e~
on
the stAff rep~rt to thc F'lann(ng Commiss
publlc hear(ng~ it is referred to and maclc a pirt of the minutes.
Philip McName:e~ 100~2 Garfleld Avenuc, Huntington E3each, t~nd Walter Ib~ge of Trl-StatF
Enyincering werc present to Ans~iE:r any qucstions.
TIIC PUI3LIC I!Cl1f~ING 41A~ CL~SED.
Commissioner flerhst stateu some of these buildings ~-~ill n~t face .~ public street~ and
llnnika Santalahti ~ llssistant O1 rectc~r for lonlnq~ exnl~~lnecJ thls does not involve
subdivisi~n of the land .~nct tf~is is basic.'+lly tl,e same way these havr been ha~dted in the
past.
Commissloner E3ushore asked if thc s~r~~ r~~ta+ office v:ill handle the malntenance~ and Mr,
McNamee replirJ the owners associatlon ef a prevl~us sir~il~r aroJect h~ici hired their on-
site manayer 'to cuntinue r~anaginq the project and stated a corpnrAtlori ls formed of the
owners and they are frce to do ~ahatevcr tt~ey aaant.
Corrr~issloner Elus, asked if Inc!ividuai owners couid clect not to use the ~~ntral
managertx:nt comp~ „ and Mr. McNamre rr.plled tticy coulrl cb thc mainten~'~nce thems~lve...
Commissioner Nerbst ~skPd -~~h~~t c~ncr~>) there woulci be to ~.revent the owncrs from
converting the ~nhevirdividualsbui ldinqmvltt~frc~mn4 to•:'~`'unlts insiciedeachybulldi~ng~.,y
be ablc to sell t
Jack 1Jhi te ~ Deputy Ci ty Attorney ~ explained th~t wi 11 bc control led through the c.ovenants.
cond~ttoned thatrth~.rCCfR's5beaaparov^_d~and recorded priorvto ~ec~rdationeof the1final
condi t
map.
Jack '~Ihi te suggested Condl tion t~o. ~~ be modi ficd~ providing tf~at the CCbR's shal l pr~vide
that ind(vldual living units cannot be canverted.
Comnissiancr Fry su~gested the conditlons of the Ci.bR's provlde that afcer the Individual
buildtngs are sold~ tl,cy must rcmaln in tfic r~anaqement program.
ACTION: Commissioner King offered a motion. seconcied by Commissioner fterbst and MOTION
~ t ED~ that the Anat,etm City Planning Commis~lon has rev(~wed tt~e proposal to permit a
one~lot~ 22-bui lding, RM-1200 subdivision on an l~re~ularly-st>>ped pa;ce~~~f feetdon the
cansisting of approximatety 9.1 acre having a frantage af approximate.y ~
south slde of Ball R~ad~ haviny a Maxirnum depth of approximately 782 feet~ and being
located approximately 17^~ feee east of the centerl ine of Euclid Street; and dc~es hereby
approve thFfi~ee~asigethat,there~wuuld behnorsignificanttindivtdualaorCCUmulativeaAdveset
~eport on t
9/24/79
~~ 79- 717
MINUTCS~ ANIW~IN CITY PLANNING CONMISSION~ SEPTEMI~CR 24~ 1979
EI il NEGA71 VE DECLARATI ON AND TEN7AT1 VE MAP OF TP,I~CT ~10. 108 4(cont inued)
envlronmentel Impact due to the approval of this Ilegative Declaratton since the Anaheim
General Plan cieslynAtes the subJect property for medium denslty residentlai land uses
commensurate wl th~ tlie p~~PoSa~ -~h i~ submittedtby thetPet~ti~n~ri indlcatescnonsi~nl~~cant
t1~e; proposal; that the InitiA) Stucy
lndlvldual or cumulaGfve advars4dinvsris~ntfltemjacihc CltytoftAnahe'im~PlAnni~n9~~sr~tlon
s~bstantietiny thc forcgoin<I fln ~1
pepartment.
Cornmisslo~cr King offcreJ a motio~~ 5~~~~~e~ ~Y ~~nxn(ssloncr David and MOTIQtI CARRIEO~
that the Anoheim City Pianninq ~~~'~'~~~nC~ ~econsistcnttwflthhtheiCltyr f Anahrim~General~
together wl th 1 ts desi <;n and im~rove ~
Pl~n~ pursuant to Govlrnment Coce,pLct2on~Euildin~.aRN-17.~~~SUhdlv(sion.~~subJectTtotth~ve
Mep ~f T~~ct No. 1~E3~ + for a o -
followfnq conditiuns:
1. That should this subdivision br developr.ci as nx~re tt~an ~UVt~;~d~~ision~ each
subdlvision thcrcaf shall bc submltt~d in tentativc for~r, for a~p ~n~ ~
2. That [hc orlgl~al Jocur.icnts uf thc cc~vcn~~nts~ conditions, an~ restrictic,ns,
lettcr edJrc.ssc~l to devcloper' ~ titlc° c~~n~~a a~t~tVe jiby~t'~~~City~~Attorney's~Offlce1ande
subrnitteJ to [t~c City ~tturney s Officc a ~'P
Cnglneerin<~ Divlsion t~rlor to fina;ntf%~f~t~"`c~~alntenanc~~ ofiall~corrr,~~n5ireis~lit5aid~ And
restrlct(ons shpll includc: ~rovisi
doeuments ~ as r+ppravcd~ sh~, i 1 !~e f 1 led and recorde:d i n the ~f f 1 cc of th~~ Or~nqe rr~unty
Recor~fe r.
3. Tha[ prlor t~ thc intrc~ducti~n of an ~rdin~nc<•~ a finnl tract ~TM~~ ~~f sub Pct
~ropcrty shel l be submi t ted to an~! ~~p~~~'.vcd h~~ thc CI ty C~~uncl 1 an~1 thcn be r•~carded t n
the afficc of the Orange Count~, ~~~
4. That indiviJual units i~~ this su~~'i~iision s1~a11 not be sc>id. This tr~et illows
the sale of coi~~lete bulidinys onl .
~~,mmissloner Ner'~st askecl ~yboui condorr,inium ~~"~statir ~ t~~isChas cre~t~d,sanecProblems in
wi th thc 5 C~ckhc>1 ders 1 i vl n~~ ~ n t.~~ apart~»cntc ~ _
othcr citics~ ~~~ ~~~~'~''fic~~to~~kE~sL~c~~`~~r~o~~ations;suhjr.ctctosthcrSubdivtision Hap ~ct.
lcgtslation recently p
ITEM N0. 8 f'UDLIC HEARINf,. 0'INEP.: GULF OIL CORPOR~TI~N~
€'f ~E VE DECLARATI ~tl 1 ~n 1 Avcnue of the S tars ~ Los Anye 1 es ~ CA ~~1054.
~ J. ~-~0-it+ AG~NT: RO(iERT M. TENPER~ P.O. Elox 219~ Northrtdge~
'' r CA 91;24. Property descrihed ~s a rectangularly-
VARIAtICE l~0. 311> s~~ape~f parcel of land consisting of approximately 0.4
acre loca~ ~d at the norchw~est corner ~f Sa~th and East
Strec[s~having approxlmate frontayes ofna~further~describedtas57z7 SouthuEasttStreetnd 150
feet on the west s i de of Eas t St r~eet ~ a
Property presently classlfied HL (IND1~~7RIAt~ LIMITCO) ~ONE.
COMMCRCIAI., LIMITED) ZO~~E.
REQUES'k:D CLA551FICATIO~l: CL (
RE2~~STED VARI At~~E : TA, CONS~TRUMT'+AMCbM~1ERC 1 ALOSIfOPP 1 NGE CENTER!'+G SPACES
0
I t was noted the peti ti~ner~had requested th~t this I tem be conti nued for two ~+eeks. to
the meeting nf Octeber ~, 1.79
9/24/79
~ 79-717
NIt~UTCS~ ANIWCIM CITY PLANNING CQMMISSION~ ~E~'TENUER 24~ 1979
E I R IdEGATI VE DECLARATI ON AND TENTATI VE MA~ OF Ti~ACT N0. 108~ (c~nt I nucd)
environmentel Impar.t duc to th~ cctr~ru1eQtytfar n~dlumvdensityrresidentlal landnuses~m
Gencral Plan ~feslynates thc subJ P P
commensurate wlth the propo5a;~s`U~t Submlttedtby thcipctiti~n~r'1~iicatc~scnc~ns~~nificant
the Droposal; that the Initl~~ Y
tndlvldual or cumulative adve~~~~ invyr~s p~tfilen~in~the CitytoftAnahe'im~Pinnnl~q4~arotinn
substantlating the forcgolny find y
DeperCment.
Cor~nissloner King offered ~'~ "1°tCo nisslon~cbesYhe~rebysfinclethatvthe~pror sed"~ubdivlslan~
that thc Anahcim C(ty Plannin,~
tog~thcr with its desic;n and ieiprover~ent, Is consistent wlth tt~e Clty of A~~fVC~Tentatlve
Pt~n~ pursuanNotot~~,~~rfm~~'~ onr~lotct 2nbu11d3n~.AR~" 2~lO~subdivisi~n~1sub)ect tn the
Map of Tract
fol luwi ~g condl ti otis:
~, That should this subdlvlsion ba devrloped as mnre than ane subd~vi~,~on~ each
subdivislon thercof sh~11 be s;~mlttecl in tentatlve' farm far a~provnl.
2. That t+~e orlgir~al ~o~~"'~"~~~"co~i?any~authorizingnrecorlatlonJthcrcafGtshAl) he~ ~
letter ~ddressecf ~° ~QAct~~net'stOffice and approved by the City Attornry's Office and
submittecJ to thc City 1' roval. S~id covenants~ conditlons~ and
Cnginecrin~~ Divtston c~rior co finol tr~cc rr~ip arp
restrictions s~~all Inclucle`,P~°~~CSfi,led(~andhre ordeln~in~thefofficr_~of~th,er0~r~ne~eSCaunty
docun~ents ~ as anc~roved~ s
Recorck r.
j~ That prl~r t~ th~e introciuction of ~`,v~`~'(~C~itY~Council,anel~,thenabe~~recordedtin
prapartY shal ! bc: submi [ ted t~ anc+ approvcd
the office of tl~e Orange 4ounty Recor~icr.
q. 7ha~ indivi~lual units in this sul:~7iv~5~Uf~ sha11 nat be sr,ld. This tr.~ct .illrnvs
the salc of cur~~pler.c hui ldin~~s onl .
Cummissioner iler'~si asked abo~~t. cc.~ne~ominiurn convel`tj~1` L} isthas c.reit'c:d1sc~xnecPr~blem~ in
wl th the s tockhc~l Jers 1 i vi n~} 1 n t~~e aPe-'tn~ents ~ 5 J
other eities~ and ;acaasseJr'te~R~a~ens~oc`kac~orPp~atlonsssutje(ctCtoSthefSuhdivision Nap Act.
1c:gislation recent y F
I'fEN N~. Ei Pu[3liC HEnRiNr. 0'~lI~EP,: GUl.F QIL CORP~R'~TI~N~
'~~ ~ + VL OCCi.ARl,TI~N 1£',i11 Av~nuc of the Stars ~ los Anyeles, CA 9(105~+•
_~p_~1+ 11Gf.~IT: ROi3ER7 N. 7EPPEP., P•0• aox :1~~ Northridqe,
VARIAIICE l~0. 3>> ~ CA ~i1;2G. Property descrihed as ~i rectan~ul~rly-
shaaed parcel °fheanor hwesttcarner f 5 ut~and East
ac~e located at t
Strects,having rf~Proxlrt-at~ frontages of 125 f4et ~n the narth stde of Soucl~ Street and 15~
feei on ihe wcst side of Cast Str~et~ and furthcr descrit,cd as 727 Sauch East Street.
p~~,~rty presentlY classlfied ML {INDUSTRlAI, LIMITED) Z~IIE.
REQUE57ED GLASSIFICATION;
RE~UCSTE 0 VARI NICE :
CL (COM!1EP,CIAL, LIMITED) ~~~~F•
4JAIVER ~F MINIPIUH I~UHDf.R OF aEZU1RED PARKlNG SPACES
T~ COIi~T°jlC7 A COMMERClAL SHOPPI'IG CENTER.
It was ~oted the pet(tlonernhad ~equested that thls item be contlnued for two weeks, to
the n~eting of October ~i~ 1,79.
9~za/~s
MI NU7E5 ~ 11tIAHE I M C( TY PLA11~1 i NG CQMM) SS I ON ~ S EPTEMDER 24 ~ 1A7~
79- 71 ~
EIR NECATIVE DECLARAT_ION~_ RECIASSIi'ICl1TION '~~. 79 80-1~ ANp VARIANCE N0. 3116 (continued)
ACTIOt~: Commissiuner Davfd offcred a motion~ secnnded by Commissloner Y~ing and MOTION
'~D~ that the Anaheim Clty ~'lanninc~ Commission does h~rcl~y ~~ant a twa-week
continuance for consider;~tian of Rccl~sstflceti~n tlo. 7~?-an-1~~ anci Varlance ~lo. ~116 to
the rc,yularly-sch~ ~lr.d nx~etlnn af the Plmninq Commisslon nn Octobr.r t3. 1~7~~ rt the
rcques t of tf~e pet i t lonF r. ~
ITEM N0. ~ PUE3LIC HEARING. 0'~1NER5: JJ~~~ICE Y.. AND MITCNELL
E~~~RICl~L EXCNF`Tl~tt-GLASS ~~ M. 11UNPISRCYS, 21!1 [larryknoll Str~et, Anahclm, CP
Vtii'~"~ W E N~~ 3~~~ 923~7, Petitioncr requcsts '~fAIVER (1F MItlIMUM LA~ID-
SC/1PED FP,f1tIT SCTDACI; Tc~ Cn-isi~-tur,T n r,nRn~,G noolTiori
on ~r~~nc~ty cl~scrihed ~s a rF:ctangul~~rly-shaped
parcel of l~ind consistin~i of a~+prox.irn,itcly 7425 square fect h~vlnn a frontahe of a~proxt-
mate ly GG f~eet on tl~e wNsi s(~1~ of O~~rry~:nol 1 St reet ~ h~~vtng ~ maximu~~s denth of approxl-
m~tely 112 fcet~ ~cing loc.~ted a^rroximatcly ;~~1 f~~t south of thc centerllne ~f
Dalnbrtdgr Avenuc~ and further dcscrlbed os ?1~ k3arryknoi l Strect. Prorerty prr.sr.ntly
classified f',r~']:r1+1 (k[.SIDENT1111~ SII~GLC-FJlM1LY7 In~~E.
There was one per5~n (ndicatln~~ his presenc~ in ~ppositlon tn Sub.jPCt requcst, and
although th~ staff re~ort [c~ the Plannln~ Corr~issinn cia[ed Septemher ;~~, 1~7`? wt~s not ret~d
at the public hc~rlnr,~ it is refrrrrd t~~ ~ind r~~~fe ~~+art nf th~~ ninut~5.
Mltchell Hurrphreys~ uecitioncr~ stated the rcqu~•zted varlancA is r,ecPSS,~ry in ~rder to
u~~grade h is s Landar~i si .'c' 41~~r~i~;c s( n~c tr,c rk7jori ty of th~ hpme.s i n thc arPa hav~ threc-
car yarages; th~~t his is the smallest house in che tract; tl~at tl,e ~clditlon, t~cc~rding to
lhe pl ans ~ wl 1! rk~tc`~ the exi s ti n~~ housc~ ; that thu ne i ghhors on both s 1 d~s and ~'~cross the
Strect f~ave ~il) 5ic~ncd a petition a~~rcciny ~iit-' the ~ropri5cd one-car addltlan to the
exi st 1 ny yarac1e ; th.~t the shr~~be ry~~~i ' 1 not t~e mc~ved; and that thr. 1~wn wi 1 1 he rep 1~ced.
Arvin i.ynqu(st, ?.;0 Garryknoll~ An.~helm, st~~tet; h~ is not a9afnst xhis ~articular project
and thini;s it wi11 be nice, but i~ op~~osec'. brcause he ~~~~s cc~nccrneci oihers w11) be
~equesting vari~nces a~d referred to other tracts in th~ ~~rei which are currently
eye so re ~ .
t1r. hiurrphreys ~apl ~i ned on tl,e strr.et bctiind h ir~ t~~cr~ h~s ~een a onc-car addl t!on to the
~arage~ but n~ v~rl.ince w~s ~~cess~ry~ and explained the tr.'+ct ref~rred Lo by Nr. Lynqulst
is an cyesore~ but is now f~einc~ u~c}raded~ b~~t the homes In thls area ar~ ntcc and well-
~:ept and he d!d not thtnk his addition would be detrimr.ntal to thr nelqhbarhood.
TNC P1JaLl f. HEhRi NG ~il1~ CLi15f.~.
Commissicx~er Uavi~ asl:ed for furthsr clarification regardlne~ the tract which Is an
cyesarr, and Mr, flumphreys ex~liineu the tract is between hls ~r~perty and the f~ceway;
that these were fPderal ly-subsi di zed hcsusrs and thcre wcre a loc of prahlers ~ but the
houses are currcntly bci ng bought and uF~gradcd.
It was ~oted the Pa~nning Dire;ctor or his authnrized representative has determincd that
thc propased proJect fnlls within the definition o` CategoricAl Exempcions. Class 5~ as
defined in parayraph 2 of the City of An~heim Environinental Im~~act Repor~ Guidelines a~d
is~ thercfore. cacec~orically exem~,t from thc requirement to prepare an EIR.
AC~101~: Commissioncr Htrbsc offerr_d Resolution !I~. PC79'Z'3~+ and moved for its passage and
ad pt~on that the ~.nahelm City Planning Comm(ssion does hereby grant Petiti~n for Variance
tJo. 3111 on the basis that denial would deprive the property a priv(teyz enJoyed by other
9/24/79
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM GITY PLA~~NIt~C COMMISSION, SEPTEME3ER 1.N~ 1~79 ~~`~~~
EIR CATFGORIC~I EXENPTION-C~l-SS ; A~Ih VARIAt~CE; ~10._ ~111 (continucd`
property awncrs in th~ srmc~ zonln~ classtficntlon rnd vlcinlty~ subJect to
Interdeportment~l Carn,~ittee recommondations.
On roll eall~ t~~c f~rec~oiny resolution ~aas passed by the follnwinc~ votc:
~YES: CoNr~I~SIOri~fs5:
~~OES : C01111155 I O~~C kS :
AHSENT: CU~11iI5SI0Nf.R5:
Jack Whi te~ Ueputy Ci ty
Conmfsslon's Jn_cis i~~n w
dr.cision.
QARtdES. f3US110~'E~ DIIVID~ FRY, tiERP~ST, KING, TOLAR
r~~~~E
N~NE
Attorney~ ~rr.st~ntr.c~ thc written rinht to A~peal the Pl:+nnln~~
i th 1 n 72 ci.iys t~~ the C 1 ty f,o~inc 1 1 tn ~nyone flh~~ r 1 eved w 1 th the
ITEN Nq. ln PUULIC fiFAr?ING. ~t~t~EP,S: ROf~f.RT ETC-IA~lpY~ FT AL~
~~A'T VE pECLI~R!'~TIO'! 2a~0 Su~,cn Main Strr,c~t, Unit K~ Santa Ana~ C!1 ~27~7.
CUNUITIONltL USE ~.R~11T !~~'. 1.^1~ ~1f,k'IT: CL~~f.'I '~l. EiI~INf1PIDfE ~?~3~(? South Mai~ Street~
Unit i;~ Sant:~ Ana, CA ?27~7. Petitione~r rcques[s
pcrr~lsslc•>n ta ESTnL'LI`I~ A-! Oi'fICC IIJ TNE ML Zt?!~f. on
property Je~scr(I,~•~ as .in Irreg~.il.~rly-shapeci parcel r~f lnn<.i cnnsistiny of .Zp~rnxim,~tely G.2
acres h~vfr~y a frun[e~l!' ~f appr~xi~~a[~~ly ~~ ~c.~et on thr_ r_t~~~t 5(dc of ?ustin 1lvenuc~
havlny t~ maxirx~i~ ~inpth ~~f t~~proxink~tc~ly 3~>~ fc~~t, h,cin~; locatc~i np~roxlrn~tcly i~>5 fPet
;outh of thc centerl(nr nf La Palr~a A~~•n~x~~ ancf furt!~er de,cri~,ed as 1~~'1(-i~l( t~orth
Tustln Avc•nue. Pru~~crty (~rescr~tly clossi firc! NL (f'IU~'~Tf'I~~L~ LINITEb} 7.OIif .
Thcrc wo5 no cx~c ir.cll C~iti nc~ thr i r p~~~sz~ncc• in or~~~os i c~on t~ Sui~ jrct ~p~u~st ~ ~nd al thouyh
the staff repc~rt ta thc Pl~~nr~in~i Co~~~~~fssic~n ~f~~trcf SPpcr.rd~~r ?~, 1~~7`' ;~as nat rr.~~c{ at thA
~ubi l c hc:nri n~; ~ 1 t i s rc fcrrcci to an~J r~~ric o~~.irt r>f thc r~i nutrs,
Juhn Albcrts~ ?'~~~1 business C^_!~trr Uriv~~ IrvinP~ rc~>r~sent~nq the tcr~ont~ s[atFC'• the
pwpc>srd tenant for this facillcy i~, th~: ~t.~ir c~f Californf~ f~r usr a~ a yen~^r~l office
for thc C1hp~0y~k~nt Devcic~prr.nt Departr,x~nt; [h~~t t~~is ~i I1 b~ tl~c hc~dyuarter~. for other
ic~cations wi ['~l n thr Southeern Cal i fr~rnla are.i an~' wi l l servi ce other c~ff ices wi th
trt~ining~ etc.; th~t this ~,nrtic.ular office wi!1 r,nt service, the yener~t publ(c and d3
nore a staff function; that thc fncillty is :~efn~; rclnc~~trd from Riversidc; that 7~~ of
th~ errployees current~y resicie~ in ~ranyc~ Cou~ty; •~n~J that s•ibJect proG~~tY ~s located
close to chc freeway and will fACll(tatr. kheir r~r~loyces' t avcl sincc 5~', of thcir tir~e
is spent at ott~c~ c~ffices in Sout~z~rn California. He st.~t~d Lh~ ir~~tct ~n the environment
woul d bc n~y~it ! v~ .
TiIE PUt3L I C HEl~ftl t~G '.lA~ Cl.O~ED.
Corrmissiuner E~erbst as~.ed fx»~ th15 usc would servlc~ the tndustrial cormunlty~ explalning
thc Plannin~ Cocr;issian and C1ty Council are c~osely watchi~y the Northeast Industrial
Area bec»u~e ther~: has bcen an irf'.ux ~f con~s,~rciul uses and thc Ci ty is lostng i ts
industrial I~~R~.i. Ne stated anly tliosc uses wt~ich sErvlce the industrial area wlll be
percni tted.
Mr. Alberts expiained this more centrAlly-located site was recommended so that th(s
regio~a! offtce could mo:~ adequotely se~vice th~ outlying afficr.s since half the
emplayees go out to i~tl~cr offices to as3ist In tretnin~. fle cxplained they did a verY
cxtonslve search for faciiittes In this general area to create a ge~~raphic locatton to
serve tl~e needs witl~in the c~ommunltY and came up ~.ith th(s site which rntt thtir ~eeds~ and
stated 1:~, more a quast-offic~ lndustrial usc than a strtct industrial usc.
9/24/79
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MINUTCS~ AtIN~EIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ SLPTENBCR 2b~ 1~?~ 7?'7?~
EIR NEGATIVE UECIAMTION ANQ CONDfT!ONAL USE PERHIT N(`, ?019 (conti nucd)
John Calver~s ~~715 Sunnystcle Drive, Riv~rside~ stnted thls faci l i ty does n~t provld~
direct service to thr '~dustrtal c~Mmunlty~ but cioe~ ~rovidc~ an tndir~ct servic.~ by
providiny workcrs to e,.~loyers~ nnd thir, officc wlll set prv~crdu~cs ,~nd t~ollcy and
i~ '~rectly asslst prlvat~ (ndustry Ir~ filltnci j~b c~rdcrS,
C~nmisslo~er Dushorr ~isl.ed why tl~is sitc w~~s chosen~ ather than thc acr,essthllity to the
f~~ew~~y, and Mr. Calvcrn, r~plicd thcy rccrt~it stnff fron, t-,ts r~~ion++l offlcr for vart~us
are~~s and this sit~~ Is cenlrAlly lac.it~~f to s~rvic~ the ~•ntire renion, explaintn4 chey
Scrvitr flvc c~untt~•s~ wit-~ ~r~~nr~~ C~un[y ~and S~n Dl~ac~ County hivi~q thc rx~st rrquest5.
In rCSnunse to Conxhlss icanrr f3us!iore~'S qucstlon .is t~ why the s~ut-~~ rn c~a~t of the eounty
w~a rio~ ehoscn~ Hr, C~~lvt•r~s re~lled in recruittnc; St~te civ11 s~rvic~ c~~loye~rs, this
sit~ offcrs an ~p~>orti~nlty tc~ rccru(t fr~~+ thc ~ast~rn ~~nrt. r,f Los An~~les County si-,tc ~+~1
to ~.^i:, of thc rc~~ur.!;':s c.r~ from th.~t ~ir~~,i; tt;~t >~`; of thc em~loyA~S ~t this facillty wi 11
provlAc tethnlcn) scrvicc~, tr~;nir-; ~mpinyc~S (n thr ~11~~hility insurs~ncc pro<~rar~,
emplvyrticnt Scrvi ce ~ te5t i n~a ar,~! rrcrul tr+ent, etc.
Answerinc~ Corx~~issioncr l3ushc~r^'S c~ur~Sti~n~ Nr. C,ilvr~r~~S st~~tc~1 sc~,rrtl~'r.s thc cri~~IOy~!'S A~e
yonc frur, this of(iec t~~rc~~ or fuur ~~,iys ~~t A tirx~. ~Ir statr.~i t`~cy h.~v~ hecn in P.Iv~rsidc
sinee 1`~7~ ~~~d the recru;t~'x~nt ~~f ~•n~,~,lc in th~t area has bern ~llfficult~ and currently
70,, of Lhelr prrsannrl 1 ivc in Orr ,r Co~~nty.
Comr'~fssioner Ile~hst cltirified the ~_~eneral F~uhlic wi 11 nut l,r. cc~r~inr to thi5 facility ~md
thc traffir. wil l hc f'rc~n c~,e cr~~>Ic~yrr5 curi~n~ :~nc' I~avins;, pr,intin~: out this sitc h~~s
1 imI tcd acccss.
Nr. Calvrros F>c,intcJ out thc offlees which 5,-•rviu t!~e {~u'vlir ~~r~ locatcd In Or~+nq~~
Fvllcrtcxi, Garclcn Grovc~ ~~tc.~ ~~nd th(~ ~ffic~~ i~ .~tctu~lly tt~e .~dr~=nist~:-tivc off(cc for
a 1 1 thr othe r of f i crs .
G~mm(ssioner Dushurr ~>oinccd out this sitc is in t!~,e !~~cG: of t~c corX~.lex and ~~+as cone~rned
[hc trucks anc: in~fustrl.~l traffic vlould cr~.~tc ~~rohlrrns for this c~f'flcc rnd suc~gested they
locaCe to t~~e front of the ur~m~+lcx~ wicl~ the ~~<~ent. Hr. lllberts. i nuic~~ting that porti~n
was no[ avai lablc ;c~ Lhis tenant.
;,hairwaman Garnes statcd this ~nrtinn of t'~c c~~^~~lex Was desic~~ccf norc or lcss for
cor.xnerei~~l office uSe and lnc~lcatc~f she favors Lh~ r~qu~st bec.~use she felt this use would
crcate lcss traff(c than ary us~~~ even Indu~trial. ~h~ ~~olnted out thcrc is more than
adequate parkinc~ ~v~~ilablc. Shc st~t~d shc could not thi~ G, of any bette~r use to have in
Anahclr~ than a Statc of Callfornia EnK~loyr~x•nt Ocvelo~rrnt offiCC and frlt thls would be a
gc~d lc:catlon.
ACTIQlJ: Corxnissloncr Davi~1 offcred a motion~ setunded by Con~missioner Y,ing and MOTION
~~ED. that thr Anahein: City Plan~inq Coru~issi:~n has revtewed the proposa) to permlt n
Stat~ .~fflc~ In the tiL (Inc~ustrial, Limtterl) T.onr on an lrregularly-st~apeJ parcel of land
eonsi.ti n~ of approximatcly G.2 acres havtng ~ frontaye of ,ipproxi mate~y 300 feet ~ the
east s( dc of Tustl n Ave~~ue. haviny a r+wximun clepth of approximate 1 y 3G0 ftet, and being
Ic~cated aNnroximat~ly 5f~; fect south of [ha centerl inc of La Palma Avenue; and does hec-eby
approve the tlegative Declaratton from the requirenent to preparc an environmental lmpact
~eport on the basis that fherc wouid bc no siynificant indi~rldu~l or cuntiulattve adverse
envlronmental inpact due to the approval of thls ~Iegat~ve Declaratlon since the An~hetm
General Plan deslgnates the subject property for genera) industrial l~nci uses conmensurate
wtth thc proposnl; that na sensltivic environmental impt~cts are involved in the proposal;
that the Initi~l Study s~bmitted by the petitioner indicates no s ignificant indlvldual or
cumulativo adverse e~vironn~ental fn~,acts; and that the Negativ~ Declaratton substantiating
the foregotnc~ findings 1s on file fn thc C(ty of Mahe1M Pianning Oepartrt~nt.
9/24/19
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MINUTES~ A~lANEIN CITY PLANNING CbMMI5S1011~ SCPTEMOfR 24~ 197~ 7~'721
EIR NEGATIVC DECLAMTION AND CO-~UITIOPIAL USE PERMIT ~~0. 201~ (continucd)
Commi sstoncr K( ng offered Roso) ut ton No. PC79-1~; ~nd nx~ved for 1 ts passagc And adopt ton,
that ti~r AnahelM Ctty Planning Carnr,lssion does hereby gr~nt Petlti~n for Canc!ttlonal Usc
Permit t~a. 201~ on the basis that the use as a district afflce with no servlce to general
public ~~tl) Indir~~ctly service the tndustrial cormunity~ :+~d suhJect t~ Interd~~artmental
Cummittae recomnendatfo~s.
On rol l ea) l~ thc forcqc~in~ r~solution was passed by thr f~llcrwlnc~ vc~te:
AYCS ; C0~';MI SS IONE RS : L'ARNE:S ~ I3USIIORF ~ Dl~VI p~ f~Y ~!If RfiST ~ K I Mf. ~ T~l.l1R
NOES , COI•~1~1 ~S I nt;EP.S : -IOt:E
n(3SENT: CQNt115:1~'~fR` ; t~~tlE
ITC!~ N0. 11 PUGLIC HE:ARI!IC,. Q'lNER; M b p REALTY, :`;'~-~5 West
f.l ~ tICAL C:;L'11fT1'~~~-~L{ISS 1 Olyrr~lc Bouley~~rd, S~itc 2~6~ 8evcrly Ilills~ CA
GOIIt71 IOr~AL USC f'f.R~11 t:C~, ?.'~?~ ~'~~~11. AGE~.'IT: MOSTAFP, CN~NI P~UPNI`TL~III~~d~ 12~i~
Sc~uth Kn~>tt Strc~t~ An,~hcir~~ Gn. 7?~n4. Pctit.toner
fC~~IJCSLS h~i-SAIE aCER Atlh uI~.C 1-1 l1~1 E%ISTItJG
r~E51"l1UM~IT on ~~m~~crty descril~ed A, ,~n irrc~~~~larly-sl,~ned ~arc~~l c,f land cc~nsistinq of
approximatcly 4,~) acres l~eate;i at thc souehwest c~rncr of Calt P,oad .~nci Kn~tt Strr_et~
havi ny app roxi nu+tc f ron tayes ~f 110 fcet an the sc~uth s i~1r of ~a) I RoAd and 3~'1 feet on
thc Nest Side ~f F:n~tt ~treet~ ~nci further descril~r~f as 12~+; Sout~~ Y.nott Street. Property
presently clt+sslf(i~d CL (CG-tME^CIAL, LlNITE:~) 70!~C.
There was no one in;iir_~t(nq their pr~sence in n~nc~sltion to suLjcct requcst~ and althou~h
thc stoff r~purt to thc F'lannin~~ Commission date~i 5e~temt~er ~4, 1~17!~ :,,~s nat rcad ~t the
public hcariny, it is rr_fcrreJ to and m~~de a rart ~~~ thr_ minutes.
Str~ve Derhuvr~nessian~ Z~ F.~st Luccro, lrvinc~ was ~rrsent to answ~r ,~ny ~~ucstlons,
Tt1C PUCI.IC ~IEARIIdG WAS CL~~C.D.
It wA5 nnted tlie Planniny Di rector or his authorized representAtive has ~etermined that
th~ proposed prnjr_ct fal ls ~.~f thin th: def init ion of Catc~orical Exempttons~ Class 1, as
defined i~ paragrapl~ 2 ~f th~ City ~f Anahelm Environrrntat Im~~ct Rc~ort Guidelincs and
3s. thcrefore, cacegorically exerr~,t from the requlrcment to ~~repa-e a~ EIP,.
ALTIO'I: Commissioner Tolar ufferrr+ Resolution Ito, PC7~-1~G a~d moved for its passage and
adoptlcx~ that the Maheim City Plam~ing ~omr~ission cfoes hereby yrant Petition f~r
Londitl~nal Use Perr~tt tlo. 2n2;~ suhject *.o incerciepart~rntal Committee recormendatt~ns.
On rol 1 cal 1~ the foreyoi ng resoi ut lon was passed by the fol la+i r.q votc:
AYES: CONdtISSi~NEP,S: BAf?!IES~ ~USItOPE, DAVID, FRY, IIERE~ST, KI~lG~ TpLAR
''~CS: COMNI SS IONERS : I~Ot~E
~~BSENT: COMMISSIONE:RS : ~JQItE
9/24/79
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i
1\.
MINUTES~ N~A1I~{M CITY PLA~~NING COMMISSIOr~~ SEPTEMBER 2~+~ 1^77 ~9~~2~
1 TCM N0. 12 PUUL 1 C IIEl~fil NG. OWI~ERS : ROC f~RT AND ESTHER CARL I N~
~j ~ G E OCCL~RIITION 3~~72 Liyq~tt OrIvG, San D~ego• Cl1 ~121~G. AGENT;
ND I Jt~i~. US E.N f 0.~3!+ R. A. DUKELOW~ 22j+~i VI st~+ Dc) Sol ~ Fu) l~rt~n~ CA
92~~3~. P~tftianc~ r~Uu~sts permiss~cscribedTasLan'+
~ SEIF-SERVI Cr CnRWAS-~ ~~ propcrty
irregula~ly~sh~~pe~ p~rcel of l~n~i c~nslsttny of aC~roxim~+t~~y n•5 ~cr~ l~c.ited at the
northeast carner of Lincoln hven~~e and West Street, havi ng :mpr~xim~te franteg~s ~f ~~~
feet on the north sldr of Llncoln Avenu~ ~~~~ (~5 feet on th~rsen~ly,Cl~~ssi~fied ~~~reet~ and
further descrlhed AS 107.5 Wost Lincoln Avcrue. Praperty p
(CGI1HCRC 111L, ac~~~r,n~.l ZQIIC.
Thcre we re two persons 1~c11cating their Pr^`'~m~sslon~cl~~eeltSe~te ~~.~hjectt~,~~~J~s~not~rea~i
a 1 though thr_ 5 taf f repor t tr> thr. P 1~nn ( n c~ Co
.~t the p~b11C hearinc~~ (t IS referred to ~~ii<1 m~~cf~ ~'- p~rt ~f thc minut~s.
Robtrt Ou~:el~w, ahcnt, st~it<~d hc has hc~n Ir~ th~ c~in•r~~st, buslnrss cincc l~hb nnd slx
rmnths ~go est~blishcd a sirf l.~r usc In Ful l~rt~~n an l1.~ rt~~r f'.oul~v~~r~1 ~•ihlch sr.rvlces thc
lar~e~ ~ecreat~~na) vehicle~ with s~•lf-serviec e~~-'wnsh !~y pr~vidin~ lon~~r.r, higher rind
widcr bays; that S~r, of all vchicl,•, c~n th~ rn,~c; cc~~1.jY ~rr rrcrcatlon~~l vet,iclcs. t~~
5tnied the fc+tillty in Fulic~rtun lias !~~en very successf ~~I an~1 th~~t this wii( hr .i nlce
building witt~ Spar,ish r.) lc mc,tif, ~i sl~m~~st~nc~ wall~ n•, ~1 ti~+lth rrcl tii~ on t-~c t~~ around
Chc mans~i~ct.
Mr. Dukelow refcrrccl tc the rccorr,r.nJatlan thit th~r cir i vcw,~y ~n lirc~.~ln closest to '+I~st
5treet ue closed and seatc~! the nrchit~ct. L`on E3ar~er~ has d~~.iyncd c~vrr 1'1~ carwashr,s and
dc~cs not thin~: It is ~e~.sible to ~ievelc~n Lhe t!rc~jr..ct ~•~i th ~~~`~~~~tS~cetC.,,o~~~lf `theytwere
they :xp~ct a lot uf ~-reational vehiclcs t~ullin<~ tr~i I~rs, •
gal ny i nto lane tao. 3~ 5. ~~ 7~~~~1 ~% 'r«u) d t,c b 1-~c~ ed. He s tated there i s ro way
this project wauld hc fea~, o~c with that westcrn drivcway r~~ Lincaln closed. He stated
tl~c at`ier driveway o~ We~•t Street could t~e cl ~.rc1.
Nea) De Ruyter~ ;3^ Calgate. Anaheim~ st~tecl hr has t~~E ~arv+~~~h ~t ~rc~o4.hurst anci Lincoln
an~ fe lt soon the~e ~•+i 11 bc e cn^'r~'~`h °" ~~ ~J ~ I~hurt on~n~no[hcr's'busi nc~s.th-~epreferred
3 scrvice statlon Of1 CVP_7'y wrnrr~ and th;y
to threc carwAShes ln La Hat~ra on Im~,crial ~•lhich arc ~~~t~"~hascadecuatcYdeptfi for a1ose
toyeth~:r to be SuGtcssful. Hc dld not f~cl suSJect p p' Y
carwash of thls typc t~ ~ilav.~ room to pull thc v~hicl~s i~ without bloc~.inq traffic.
MelvEn Oussey~ 11~~~'~lest Center~ AnaF~eim~ state~l thc~r~ n~r traffic prohlceis at that corner
at thc~ present tir~c+nff{~e~~elopr.dhnnd did~,~ tsthi~~, the~busincss~couldCbeisutces5fult~n
Mahe i m wh 1 ch 1 s b ~
brcause of thc traffic.
RoSerL Garlin, awncr ~f subject propcrty~ statPdr^he 'rOprnCludinryrtheuGityysg~equll'emente
has had a difflcult tirK: Icasing it far varfou; osons. .
for a substontia) nurtber of pa~t.iny ~ ~ces~ and f~ 1t this usc wi ll provide a untque
scrvi ce to Anaheim.
Mr. :.~kela~ state~f t~zis wi11 be a bea~itiful facility wi~~. ~.~ndscaping including shrubs.
palm trees~ ecc., and wl l t be en up9rade for that +~~~a.
1'HE PUCL~C NC~R1tIr t~AS CL~SED.
9i21~/79
MiNUTES~ ANAl1EIN C11Y PLA~INING COMMISSION~ S~PTEMBER 2~i, 1~7~ 79-72?.
1 1'LM N0. 12 FUDLIC t1EARlNG. OWNEaS: ROGERT AN~ ESTNER CARLIN~
N~, E DECLAMTIOII 3~~7? Ltgc~~tt Grlve, San Di ec~u, C11 ~1210~. AGENT:
ID I N L U E RN 10. 2034 R. A. DUKCLOW~ 1.24~+ Vlsta De1 Sol~ Fullerton~ CA
92~~31. Petltioncr requests permission to ESTApLISN
~ SELF-SERVICC CIIP,WAS11 on property dcscrlbed as an
i rreyularly-shaped p~rcel of land cc~nsistlnci of ~~~proximotely 0,5 acre loc~ited at the
n~rthc~st corncr ~f lineoln Avenur and '~lest Strc~t~ having ~~proximatr fr~ntag~s of 1~1~
f~~t on thc north stdc of Lincoln Av~nur. nnd G5 fect ~n thc cast side of ucsc Strcet~ and
f urther described ~s 1~2; West ltncoln ~1vc~nuc, F~roperty nresencly classifled CG
C COt1~1LRCIl1L~ GCNEnAI.) Zo~~C.
T"hcre were: tw~~ pf~~5Un5 in~f(caciny their pr~s~ncc ln ~ppnsiti~n to subject r~~~uest~ and
although thc staff rcpart [o thc Pl~inn(rq Commtsslan d.ited Sc~te~cr 2h~ 1~1~ was not read
at thc publle hc~~rin~a~ It Is ~rfcrred to and Mn~~c a ~~rt ~f thc minutrs.
Robcrt Du~clow~ agcnt, st~~tc•d hc h.~s h~en ir~ thc c~'~n•~ash busin~ss sinec t~F~h .~nd slx
mon[hs a~~ es[~bllshcd .~ sir~il,~r usc in Fullert~n on Har'~or floulcv~~r~1 which s~rvtces thc
1 ar~er recreall~~nnl vehicle:; with srlf-scrv(cc earwash hy prnvidin~ lon~acr~ higher ~nd
r.id~r b~y;; that t~'r uf ~~11 vchir.l~•5 an thc. r~,,~r1 tc~clay arc rr.crcatlonal vchlcles. ~Ic
st~ted th~~ faci ! Ity in Fu1lc~rton hns t.,crn vcry succcssful ~3n~i thnt this wi l l hc .~ nlce
bul~ding wilh Spanish tl le metif, a s1ur~~st~nr~ ~•rall~ ~ind with r~d t(lc on thc top around
thG mansard.
Mr. Dukelow referrc~ to th~ recorm~en.iati n that the drivcway on Lincoln closest to West
S~reet be c,losed and stateci the arthit~ct, Don Bar~er~ ha5 drsiyned ov~r ?~~ carwashes and
doe,s not thlnk it is feaslhle to dc~vFlop the ;~r~ject ~ylth that dr~veway closed. He stated
zheY expect ~~ lot ~f recrr_.~tional vehlcles p~l l inq ;ral lr_rs ~ boats~ etc. ~ and i f they were
~goi ng 1 nto lanc Nu. 3, 1 anes ;~ ~~ ~ 7 an~l 1.' v~ou! d bc b Irckcd. Iic stated thcre i, no way
Lh(s project wuuld bc feasiblr with that western driv~wny a+~ Linr_oin clostd, Ne stated
!hc uther drlveway on uest Str~et coulcl be r_losecl,
t~l~u) Dc R„Yter. ',~3~ Colgatc~ An~hr.i~~~~ stated h~ has the Ganr~~sh at Eimokhurst anc~ Lincoln
and felt soon there ~~il) br: a c~~rw.~sh o~ every corncr in Anahcim~ sir~tlar ~o the past wlth
~ scrvicc slatlon on cvery corncr~ and thry r,ill hurt onc ~inotticr's business. Iic referred
io three carw~shcs in La ~labra on Imj~erial a~hich are r~~n down becAUSe they were too close
together to be successful, f1e did not fecl sub,ic~ct pro~,erty I,as adcquate dep[h for a
~bnr+ash of thls typc to a! low room tc puli the vchir_Ics tn wi thout blocl:inq traf~ (c,
~tClvin Dusscy~ lln4 West Center, P~n~~heim, stateQ there nr~ traffic problcMS at [hat corncr
~t thr_ present tlr~e. Nc did nat thinl, a carwas-~ o-,oul~~ ~dd any heeutlflc~tion to downtown
Maheim ~h(ch ts being recievelop~~c~ and dld not think. th~e husiness could be successful
bccause nf thc traffic.
Robert Carlln~ owncr ot s~ject ~ropcrty~ stnted the pr~~r~erty Ix irrr_gularly-sha,ped and he
has had a difflcult tir~c lcas~ng it for varlous rcasons~ fncluding thc City's requtrement
fo~ a subs~:a~tial nurrbcr of p~~rG.iny s~aces~ a~d fclt this use wi I1 provide a unique
serv! e~ ta Anahe) m.
Mr. Dukelcw~ stated this wtll be a beautiful facility with landscaping includinc~ shrubs,
pel m trees~ etc, ~ and Ni 1 i be an ~pgrade fc~r that Area.
7HC PUULIC NCARIIIG t!!l5 CLOSED.
g/2~-/79
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIN CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, SCPTEM[~ER 2~~~ 1919 79"7z3
EIR NEGATIVE DECL~RA~ION AND CONDlTIONAL USE PEkMIT N0. 2034 (cont(nued)
Respot~ding t~ Cortmfssioner King's qucstl~n, Mr. Dukcloa~ stated thc catwash f.icllltles
mentto~ed in La Nabra In rundown eondition are not his~ and further explaired he ht~s
recolved the Oran~~c County ~rchltectural Av+ard far his factllties.
Commissioner Ilerbst asl.o~! nbout clostnc~ the drlvc4,ay~ clarifyiny it will be strlctly for
ingress~ and ~1r. Dukelow stated in 15 yeors thcy had probably h.~d if1 ~eoplc pull into the
bays the w rang wny .
Commiss(oner i~ushore pointed out ~>eople are currrntly yoing through the corner t,ecause It
(s a threc-way slgnal anc; wondercd if this structur~ wlll stop th.3t~ and Mr. Dukelc~w
explatned It would bc on ~ 15/~'1-dcqrc~ angle and woulrl he qultc h~az~+rdous (pointinq out
the driveway on West Strect wi 11 bc closccl). l,ut would not say that It wi I1 not happen
because Just about threc weeks nc~~ a mor went throuqh ~ full-serv(cc bay when it was
closed and was bc~c~l~c~i far drunk cfriving,
Comniss~oncr I3ushnre st.it^d hc• woul~i ayrr.c wlth Nr. E3usscy th~~t thts 15 onc of thr
entra~tes to 1lnaheir~ ~rid ~~c~reeci thls use c~n that ~~roperty woul~i hr. a dc~wnqradc of the
area.
In response to Commissioncr Davld'S qucstlon, Mr•. Uu~.el~~~ stateJ he oppos~:s clusing the
drlveway referenced t,ecause he ~:xprcts to c.iter to larqe recre~~tlonal vch6cles. He stated
seml truc~s and tr.~l lers ~r vchiclcs ~~ul l ing trai lcrs t~~trr.nize his Fullerton facil ity an~
if th~t drivcw~y wcrc clc~sr.~~ fnur ~~ thc bays rrould bc biocl:ed.
Commi,sio~er Fry ~sked if th~ WJT4r wi 11 be reeyclec+., and Mr, Uut,elov~ replied ttiat it
W9U~ Cj.
Commissioncr Uush~~rc ~id not tlifnE. tl~~ proprrty awncr's corr'rnt rclatin~ to strlct parking
requi rer,r_nts offers a val id reason for ~~ra,-~ting the ~equcs[ ~ec.~use ~n t~over~ber 20. 197a~
the Com;;ission yranted a park.iny varlance on this prop~rty for another use. Hc polntcd
~ut this curncr 1s Une of the entrances tc~ the city.
Cortmissi~ner Tolar slatcd evidently the drivc-In restr.ur~nt apprc?vec! in -1o~i~mb~r ~ras not
cs~veloped because tl~t lot is not laryr. enough ~~nd the owner losc the tenant. He felt
~ssenfilagc of land would Gc thc best solution for thc use of this unusual-shaped property,
~ut he aould not thin.; of a better use of thr propcrty, and staCed he had ~een this
petf tloner's other facility and !t ls nice.
Commissioncr Bushore askrJ~ i f this nperatior, is ln drmand as ruch as indicated~ whcre the
large se~•i trucks .~nd tr~~ilers would t~arG. while w~iting t~ br. wasf~cd. Ne felt thc arca
would br ir~pacted.
Mr. Oukelow s[atcd he h~s had no ~arobiem at his iulferton fncility. ~~~ explained this is
a na~row pnrccl~ but with six b~ys ac Fullertcr~ hc has tiad no problem.
Co~nlssioner tiushore was concerned that potrons wo~ild use the lanes for waxing their
vehtcles. cstc. ~ causing a stacking problem.
tit'. Dukelow statcd hc would nat invest a quart~er of n mi 11 ton dol lars i f he did not fecl
the proptrty ~s adequate. Ne stated they have rnorc room on th~t pr~perty Lhan on over 3Q$
of the coin-operated faci 1: tf es in Orang~ County.
ACT10~+: Corrmissloncr t~erbst offcre:d a motior-~ secanded by Commissioner Tol~r and MOTIOtI
~~D. tha[ the Anahetm City P1a~n1~g Comnission has ~evicwcd thc propos3l to per-nit a
self-service carwash in the GG (Commerciel ~ General) Zonc on a~ irree~ularly-shaped parcel
~/24/~9
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MINUTCS~ ANAIIEIM CITY PI.AN~~ING COMMISS18t1~ SEPTEMBER 2~i~ 197~ 79'724
EIR NEGATIVE OECLARl1TION ANO COI~OIT101lAL USE PCRMIT_ N0. 2034 (contlnued)
of land consisting of epproximately ~1.; acre located at the northeast corner uf Llncoln
Avenue and West Street~ hnvtny approximate frontac~es of i'10 fcet an the norch side of
llncoln Avenuc and 65 fcet on thc e~ist si<ie af West Strcet; ancl dc~es hcreby r~pprove the
t~eyative peclaration from the r~~yutrement to prep~re ~n envlranmenial impact report on the
basis that thcrA would hc no sic~nific,~sZt indlvidual or cumulitivc advarsc envlronmc~ta)
in~act due to the ap~roval of this I~tgative Declar~-+tlon slnce the Anahelm Gener~l Plan
deslynates the subjr.ct property for gen~ri) comnerclal I~nd uses comrr~nsurate wlth the
proposal ; thnt nu sensl ti ve ~nvi ronn~ental lrrpac[s ~~re inv~lved ln the ~ropost~) ; that the
Inltlal Study submttted by the ~~titioner indic~tes ~~o significant Indivl~iual ar
cumulritive advr,rse envlronrx~nt•~l i~~acts; ancl th~t the Hegative Declarntl~n substantlAtinn
the foregotn~ find(nc~s ls on ftlc in the City of lln~hcim Planninq Departmcnt.
Conunlss(oner Herl,st offrrcd Resolution tlo. PC7~-1~1 and rx~vcd for its pass~~g~ ~nd
adoptton~ that thr. Anahc(m City i~l~inniny Corm~isslon docs hcrchy ~;r~int Petltlon for
Conditlonal Use Permit No. 203~}~ suhjeGt to thc pct(tinner's stipulation to close thc
cas[crly~ 2~-fo~t drive~+ay ~?nd re-ilacc wllh standard curh ~~n~i yuttcrs~ ~nd sub,jret to
Inter~lepartmental Cu~tt,~l ttce recr~mnx~nclat ions.
On roll eal l~ tf~c~ fc~regotnc~ resolutinn r~~~s p~+ssed by the fol low(ne~ vate:
w AYES: COMr'11JJ1("IERS: L~~R~IES~ D~VID~ fnY, IIE.R[157~ Y,IIiG, TOL~,R
ii0C5: COrv~ISSlc~,f.r,,; Du5-+ORE.
ADSL~JT: CQtu~ 1~S I nrlE: °5 : NOttE
ITEN N0. 1~ F'l:Gl.it. IiEJ,f'll~f. !'rc,~,us.~l to ch:-nu~~ thr c•xistiiiq
!lV I~HCI~ AL I~'fl~C1' P(r'1^1 '~'.. 7:^ '~i1lsiJc es,tatc ~Irn~,ity rc~,i~'ential dcsi~m~ition to
~EIlEP.AL P1.1111 !1'!L~~D1'L(IT t~~. 1'',i ,enrral cor~~rrc(~~1 (rc~ji~,n,~l st~n~•,E,inc; cent~r) for an
..._,... - ---- '; acrc5 ~ciC.lt~ti on the south
f1ftJ Of AO('ff1Y11'1(]t('IY
si~ir af STnta lln~ Can~on Foid~ :+p(~rnximatcly 1~'1'1
fcct SUU4I~wf5i of '.1c~ r CAnynn F~oau.
I tl.~~t I1C . 1 ~~
11 ROt1l1EI~T~I I t"f'~"C1 "l.f C1fZT IiC`. "~'~
GCIIL Ri1l P ll~11 !1N[.1~ plSt tIT tl~ . 1`;~-~
2~~ ~tres lac.ate~i irs~c~!ic~tc~y narth c~f
Weir Canyon Ho~ad.
Pt.LLIC NE.A!'•!'!C, To c~~nsid~~r altcrnatc nropo5a15 of
ultiu~at~ lan~i us~ (sin~,lc~-f~r•ily residential, multi~le-
far~ily rPSi~cnti~l, cc:r~n~-rc.ial (inclucilnn re~ional
slzup{~in~; centcr) ~ officr, (r.d~strial ~ cncr~ sp~~cc a~cl
t-ny c.~~~~-~hin~iti~n ~~f t~~~c~se f~r an area ~~f approxfrately
thc P,ivcrsicic Frcev+ay on tl~c e~-+St and weSt 5iclc~5 of
It was notc.~~ Ch~~se tw,~ iter~5 ~7re ciosely rel.~teu ~ind +vc>uld t>c G~SCUSSP.(1 tc~clet+~er.
Jay Tasl,iru, ~SSnCI~iC ri~~(~ncr~ NXr~~i+nccS fencral P~At~ Ar~endrx~nt NO. ~~~ ~S property owner
initiatPd to c`~an~,e Lh<~ ~~:rrent hillsi~.le cstate denSitY resi~senti~~l desi~,nation to general
eor~Yrtercial and re>inted out thr rxhihit dis~tayed ~howln~ the current de~sictnation. tle
polr~icd out Exhil,;t A wt.ich rf~~rr.sc~~ts ap~+roxir~~~tc1Y 1'L ac.rr.s pronnsei' for a renional
sh~pping center, 11e sta[e~1 in Ja~uary~ 1~7~, the City Courecil a~~F!rovrd Peclassification
t~O, j]-/;-C4, ap~ruvin<; PC =~~~inr, on subject ~+rot~crty G.nvwn as thc Ca:~er Ranch~ and ~ne of
th~~ cond'+t+ons af aprr<~v~~l wa, thr recluircrnent t-tat a feasibility stuc'y f~r such ~mme~tial
dcvelopment be conducC~d anct thrt the app~~cant submi~ nn ar.iendment t~ the General Plan of
Deyelopmenc consistent with said study~ vrl~ich t-~ey have d~nc.
912b/79
l
MIt~UTE.S~ RIIAlli~111 GIiY PLN~~JING COMNISSI(-N~ sEPTEr~~[F 2l~~ 1^7^ 7~'7•''-5
EIR NO 22~ AtID GC~ICRl1L PLAII IIMENUNENT N0, 153 EIR 110,2~!~ ~IID f'ENCRAL PLA~~ l1MCNDHENT N0. 1;~+
General Plan Micn~mrnt Ilu. 1~1- (s alsu a E~r~'~p~rty awn~~r Inltiat~cl f,~~nr.r~l Plan ~r+c~ndmrnt
tCl ~~1.'1fl~~p tf1C CUYI'C'11C ~~~:n~.ral O~llill S~~i1Ct ~OS~!Ihi1t1;1~1 ~n n~n~~r~il GCN~1hr1'C~f1~ (inc.lu~iiny ~l
rc~~ion,il sl~~pc~in~., cei~te~r), c~m~r~erc:i,~l {,rc~fr_ss~~n~l, ~~rncrr~l inclustri~il~ ~T~e~llurn dc:nsity
resl~Jci~tiei ~flc) yCf1C~8~ t~~cfl S~~acr_~ ~~1~ ~f~~C t~1C F~I'Ul~~~tY OM/tl('t' ~~iu4~~~5t~S [c~ ~CV~~O(~ .t t~~~;t
oi' rcyi<,nal s,~o~~~iti~• ccr;tcr~ su1~{'~~rt eorrric~cl~~l (retnil/officr), li~,ht ir7ciustrl,~l~ ~~nc~
nie~li ui~~ ~c~ns i ty res i cfcnc i~~ I USl'S 1 i~t~_c;r,it~~~ ti•~i lh an ~~~~~n s~;ac.~ Sys ti•~ ,~~nJ thst i t i s ~~lsc~
th~ intcnt of thc pr~~~,crty cr~ncr t~; ~,ul,s~~c~ucrtly s~'eb, iMrr.atiun an~; ;~~,(~ro{~ri~~t~: t.oninq to
~II~~ICf~1~1~L th~~ ~~rc~~~c~5e~1 l~r~l uses, fle ~~~~~n[eJ out thc ~•xhil~it sh<w,in~_; thr. curr~nt f'enr.ral
F'lan cles(~~n~tic,n ~~ri~.f Statc~i subicc.t {~rci~,rrty is ~r~ irre~~ularly-sl~.~{,c~! ~:irccl ~~f l,~n<1
haviny an ~~rN;i c,f appro.;+n~at~•ly ~l% ~~crrs Ic~c~~t~~~; irn~rciisitc:ly nnrtl~ of th~ Pivcrside
f'rerw~y oi~ lhc c~as[ an.i wust si,~~~~, c,f '~lcir Car~yun Ro~ic'. lie cxpl~ir~~,~1 tl~re~e• of tl~e ~~ic~ht
altr.rnativcs {~ra5~rntc~l .~rc thc .iD(~1 ic:~nt's E~r~.{~<~Snis and th:+t t.!i~~ st~~ff~s ~roposal5 w~+rc
pt'e~~~~re.i lc~ refle~t Cl~c F~c~s~~i~le~ ir~~~a~.ts an~l {~rc~5~~nt ~i11 ~~o~~sihl~~ alti~~~~ativc uscs that
coul~l e~eeur ~n th~~[ ;~rc~p~~rty. ile~ cr.~lnin,r~l [h~c ,i~~~~lie~int. {+rc`~~r, thc ~~prrc,vril of Cxhihit
A, whiGh i~~~sic.~~lly I~rr~{~u5cs ^~ .+c.rc~s for ~~~ncr,~l cor~r+crc.i;il uscs~ o~ w!~ieh ;i'. wc~~~ld t~e for
a r~•glon~l Shvp~~inc; ~'.rr~trr, wii'~ c:or~nx•reic+l ufflee usct ~~n:1 rx•diun <!!~n~,i[~~ r~Si~l~ntin)
usts adjac.ent t~~ thi. Santn ,~1t~.i Rivcr .inii yencr~l inJustr}.+) uses r,n the• w~~t 51<Ie~ o( Weir
Canycin Rc~a~~,
Hc S[ateJ l~Itr~rri~~tiv~•s ls an~l C shcn~ ~,.~sicallY ~~ix~~ci us~•s nf c~~rr~Prclil~ rtsir~enti~~l, and
industri.~{; hcw~cvcr~ t1~4 rcyic~r~i s'~~~p(~inc; ~an~cr is c~xclu~lt~:~ r,n Exhi~,i[ ii. Ile ax~l~~ine~c:
Exhibit b i5 st.~ff'S recor~r~~rndrJ <~ltr•rn.~tivr, .~~~1 that it Lasic.,~lly sh~w+~, cinc rec;lon~l
shc~pF~In~~ cr~nter Ic~~..~tec1 ~Y+ithir~ tl~r p~irti~ul~~r ar~a nf `,Je.ir C,~nyon itc.i~1 ~r,! t~~e Plvrrside
Freeway. ~~e st~~[e i thr reikiinin~, ~+ltrrn,~tiv~5 shc.:- t.he c~ther nassit~le U5l`S fnr sln~~le-
family~ mcdiue~ ~1r.nsity, ~;<•ner,il ~~N~r~rci<il, in~fustri~~l, .~nd os,~n ~F>.~t~.
Lruct~ i'rip~~~ Kaufman G f~roacf, if;'•~~ li~r~1~•i•n ~ay~ I rvinc, rc•nrc•;c~n[inn t~~~ Ga~:er Ftan~ti~
Stateci Lhry ciru ~~rope~sin~. :~ ~cr~crtil ('Ir.in ,~r~nc!i~er~t ~ir~d f~ave 5uhrnittecf an Fr~vir~nrrr[~l
i~~~pect rrp~_~rt (LI~~,} for r~p~,rr~vr~l. lir ~t.i[c~d ti'~f•v :~~rrc wi~h t~ic stnff'S rc•c~x*~menc~.itiun
th~~i the. City Cuuneil certify the EIR ancl r~r~~rtrd ~ut th~ir e~~n5ult.int ~s Prese~nt to
enSrrer ~~ny clur5tiuns. 11c st~tc:~l they ~~re re~;uest~~~'; a Gen~r~l F'I.in arK•ndr,~nt efesiun.~tin~
the ~~oprrty tc~ ,e~Nr~l ~.o~r~c•rc.i~~l ~ir,~1 i~ i5 t~~+~ir ~r+2cr~t to cause ~ rcyior~~) Sh~p{~inc~
Genter tc, br cc~nstruc,t~~1. ~Ic ~•r.~~lc~inc~! at th,r ti~n• t'~~~ Lt+~cr Ranch ~r,~, ~~~~r<~v~~d~ they and
Clic Cf ty dcs i r~:~1 t~~ ; r~cec~ t~ronnt ly ~in~i exj'~•ui t ioi,s!y wi t-~ thc rc ,inn~~l sho~nin~; Ce~tcr
ft~r the ~~oc~d af thr City ai+u~ ubvic~usl•,•~ so tt~c~ rrsi~lrntia) c)evelo~rwr~t crr. ~~rntrcci. Ne
-:x~~ 1 a i i~c~ [h~y ht,vr en t~, re ~ i n to an i<~ reen~•n t a, i tt, tl,~~ Tauhnan Cor~~;any ~ Y!{1C) wi I 1
u1Ci~kii.cly Jevelc,p t~~i•, rr<;i~,nal ccr,t~r~ ar~J Ri~h,^~rc; ~;w~hn a~~~1 At,r.~•r t~ec~4nr~ rr~~rESentin~~
the Taul,n~in Cur~;~~~r~y ~~re re o resent tc~ answe r s peci f i c <~u~>s t i ~n5 rc ,ard i nc; thc Shop{: i ng
CE:f1Lef .
Ue~n i~aucr~ F'hi ~ if;;s~ lsrr~n~lt b?c~~~1~E, rc, r~'SCn~ln~; fhe SI~VI prr,rcrty, st~~tcd hc ~!i~ not
tliink thc q~e~s~ti~n I~c~re is r?~et~~cr or not thr.rr. St,c~u1~' I,e a ~~~~~onal shc~r-~ina cr~nter .~t
this loC~tiur~~ b~t w!~~'.t J~cS [~,i~ ~'~art o~ t~~r city, w!~ici~ ~5 Lf~c~ ,yrytcwiy tc~ 5.~~~t~, ~~n:~ an~
'dcir C~~rryons, r~c~~r~ t~ iCs rr.sicii•nts anc'. t!~r atljaccnC ~or~rr~nity anc3 thr county; that ihis
are~ has io~~u be•cn .liscuss:•ef hy t~:~ couniy ~r,d the cities c~f Yort>a Linda ana /!n~hri~~~
because i t is t-~~ <)at~.~way tc~ hoth ci t ics ~n~j t~, twc~ cc~urt ies; t~~t Ihey hive. revi~rwc d
staff's corm~;nts t+ri~ ~ir•~~lrrstan~ th;elr rPCar~'~rnci,it+un ;+~~d ~-~;rc•e, ir~ ~.~rt; that the•y feel
5 t runyl y i E tf,e rr. ~; i c,na ~ ch:ir.~c te~ r i a t i c~ of t~~e c,~nyons and the r.nr r~ i nc; deve 1 oe~men [
a~l{)c1l'(~~L Of1 LuL~~ `.,I~PS clre' aZnd~yICU 8f!;: Ut:~~'S~~ ~~:t- I1~~[U~B) C~1c'1-'.1CLPfS5CIC5~ i)f ~hP Canyuns
are prutecte~~. t~~cy +~i I1 I,c ~tr.strayc~f; tf~a~ this i<~ th~: last vac~nt f>r~P~'ftY unaer priva[e
c»~n~rrshl#, ~ctwc~er, '~lcir C~rri~n an~ thc f'radu L'~~~~ ~ind ihe re~li~n~i1 cenccpt o" c~pen spece
en~1 floOc ct~rtitrol ~c;tweei~ thi5 Si te anil t+~e Fr~~d~~ Jar~~and cvc;ntu~~i ly on up to fFentone Dan,~
nukes this an ev~n rx~rr• unique sitc; tt;a[ in the futurc as watcf auality is increasecl~
th~rr will b~; elean~ clear~ uncor,[a~inated M+atcr ir~ thr. Santa Ana Piver for the first time
in hun~ireds o( years and this ~fforcis a uniyut a{~p~rtuni[y tc~ the City of Anaheim. Ne
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NI':UTLG~ l1~11111C111 GITY PLAt~IJII~G CQMNISSIc}~~~ ;~.P7~NL'CR 2~+~ l~i~- 19'7~~~
L I R I10. 22'1 ~~JD GCIaE.RAL PLP~~J !1~{EIIDIICT~T N~. 1~~3-E 1~' N0, 230 ~!10 GC~lCf'l~L PL/1tl n.MFNDh1C~iT ~~U. 1 Sb
st~ted thcre arr s~~cc,ific re~s~~unsihiliti~s c~n thi5 sitc to flovd cuntr~~l and ~ir,wnstrc~~m
siltatiw~ rc~ulrc~~c.~~ts uf t~~c slc>rri w~'-t~~r cliannc~l5 c~f thc 5t~nt.~ Ana P,iv~•r~ ancl f~lt thesc
issu~s slwul~l I,~• ~lv~~lt witli.
ilc stAteu thi~ir ~~n~ilysis s~w~•r5 thcre is ~i r~~~eJ f~~r int.cnsive sc~rvicr (~~cil(tics .~t this
partlc.ulAr lo~.atiun; that f f chc '~Jcir Canyon I.,rict~~c cau~s ~icr~ss thc~ r:ii lr~a~1 as YorE~a
L 1 n~a i y cuntcr~p I~~t i r~y ~ an~1 thc cvcn tu:~ 1 hc,c~4 i n~~ ~E, r,f 'dc ( r Canyc~n f'.c~,~c1 5~ut!~ ti5 f ar ~5
Car~E~ f ciicllet~i~ is, ~ccc,r~; l ishucl, [lii s r~~~rt ic.ular si tc is nl thc ~~~ x of a sic~ni f icanl
nx~verrn~nt frcxT~ thc ne~rth/nnrll~e~~st c.li~ira~[~~rs uf thc~ cc,ut~ties c~f Uranc~e ~ Riversiele~ an~l Sar,
Lernurci~nu; ~~1~1< <~ll'I C iff1~1~Y51S S~~f!`,/S t~It1L `,(N'f :~'~) A(.~CS U~ Cnflf~(,rci~l~ ~fi~ SU(~~10ft
c~ffites~ t~npluy~~~•nt ar~i, ll~iht inuu~~triril s~•rvi~~~ c.~~rrrrci~l is r~r,uirc~l ~n t'~is arr~~. Ile
p ropo5c~f th~~ Ger~c~ r~i 1!'' 1 an ~I~s i~~n~ t i r,n ~~ f ycne ra I~_o~~~rK~ rc. i~,1 s~;uu 1 el hc~ ~~~~~~ 1 1 c~l [c, tx~th the
t,auer fianc:h ~iii~.l the ,r,l~l'I ~ru~~erty. i'c• r,t~~tr,1 they c1u not thin~. tt~r ;;auer Ranch ~Ite IS
tl~e ~ roper lo~.alie~n fc,r a r~~c;ic~nal ~•~~~_~c~t~~~~~; c.<'ntcr; t~~~~e th~~ relrtionshi~ Letwee~n se~rvice
curr.~erci~~l un .~ re~;le,n;il Sc.ale ~r,u ll~c ncr~1 f~r su~~pc?rt f,~cilities need to be• cc~nsidered,
poir~[in~a uut ~~vc•ryt,nc~ i~~ c:c~nccrn~~l ~~buut I~al~inc.r~ lan~! usc~ iud~y ~~nrl Chat b.~lenc~d
lan~ u5e starts tu ~~rc~vi~f~~ t~~~~ lin~.i~;e th~ plann~rs havc Lc~i~n nce~iiny for yeirs. He
rcferrc~~; tc~ a r~~~~~~rt rc~~cntly firii5t,i~~: cc~nc.~•rnin~~ rncr~~y c.~~ntrrvr,ti~?n usinc~ bolancecl land
u5~~ takir+~~ intU cc>nsiJ~r~~ticm th~~ trl~~ lrt~~;th5 of t`~c ~ut~~r~3hi le ~in~1 t'~e rG~luc~ic~n in
Uesoline GUI15ll~'~~~1U11~ ~F1C LflSf ~>f dCG(`~i5 c7~Q11(~ 1•ll~f1 ~lr(,~ll~l`C.~UI'cl) ~o~iific~~t(r~ns~ E•tC.~
in~.ilcaci~;~~ fror~ ~i ~/istri:,utir~n ~c,int of vicw~, th~~t stu~iy S~~rn.+ru ;'~'., c,~ the s~~vin~,s was
frcx+~ b~lanc.ccJ l~~n~f usr, ~~rr"ir,~ms ru~lucin~~ thc <~utc~rnl~i Ic lcnc;th c~f tri{, which waa
~ccompl isl~cc; thr~uqh nr ic~hbc~r!,o~,~1~ co~,r~~uni-y in~J rcc;i~n.il shn~~inc; f~c.i 1 i tlrs; and th~~t
hur~e-tcrw~rk tri,, ~;er~er~tl~,n~~ were .~lsu .~ ~~art ~f lhc~ -'Fdu~tion. I~e st~~ted th~r canyon
portlon uf tlie City c~f l~n~~'icir~ ~I~~t~S n~~t h~~ve within it thr 5c.~~c of .;•r•vicc5 that .~rc
~Cyulre:l; th~7t it h~5 tF~r nci~~h!~c~nc~x~u f~~~ilitf~~s~ '~ut n~~t the rPC;(nn;fl f,~i:ilities. 11e
st~~tr.u Jiscctir~i~ iwst. c,f uur ~icir~. wc>ui:; s`~ca+ 1~^„ c~f thcir l.~nd usc i~, not in
resi:.'ent~ ~I~ l~ut ir, er•nl~yr~ent ~n~1 servlc.es~ 7n~ in this cc~unty ~•n• h~~ve ~ e~i5(~~rtlc~nate
rclationshi~~ l~c~ri~c.r.n resiucnti~i ~n~ srrvicr5 t-nu t`~r Jistar~cr5 A~of lc rrt~ rcnuirc.d to
Lravcl. Ile St~3tc~= t~~r use~ i5 n~~t rt~'I1•; ~~!„~[ i, t,~~in~; r~vliy~~•d C~~~.~~y~ l,ut [hc futur'e dnd
huw wr {~ut ~ rit,l~u~~ c~n lf~r cr~try tu thc• Couniy ~' ~'r,!~~~~ icti~1 tl~c~ citi~~. <.~f Yor!,a Linc:a and
r~nai-eii,~. iic statc~ ~ah.~t is ~~~~~~ t,~c1~y 4~ill :fi~tatc thc futurP. Hc st~tc~ that A1 Auer~
Past F'resiun.i;t of the !1,~ti~~r.~~l A~,s<,c.i:~tir~n uf ~hc>pt~i~~y Cen;~rS, ~s present to ~iseuss
C(Jllft~)C5~ Af~S~ Gavc ..~USCIC.~'~ .%USLtGC' `~SSUCIi7ttS~ WI~) t~~SCU55 ~~fl)' S(?CCIfIC C~ ~ractcris-lCS
cpnc;ernine~ flouef {~loin ,~r~~! 'I~~c~:!:~~ys sir~ce t~e l~~i.) ~rnr6.c~ un thc• v~rious activ(Lies in
GGf1tlf:CtlUh Y~I~fI ~~~t' C~~l:fi..` Of Oran~;~'~ i1t~~.; ~~Ic~~ `lE: 4/d5 C+1C ~1t1~~1C~1' ~if dli arJlnancc' 1~~1fOVt't~
by tlit Gc;ar~ c~f •`,uprrvi~sors (~:'~) ancl st~tecl ihcr~~ was s~~r~~ ~':ISUnu~trstin~lin<: ai>out th~t
part~cular e.~ruii~ai~er sir,c~~ C-;~r~• ~•+rre four ~i(fere~rit ac;~~ncies, includin~~ the county a~~e7
fc.feral quverr.rx~nc, invc,lvrcl. He statrcl ihcrc is %- -'~:nfCSCnt~tive ~resen~ frnm thc
k.cunomic Fes~.~7rch !'~s,uci~~tc~s, ~~I~o wi 11 discuss th~~ cust!l,cncfit of tl~is ~~rojcct to the
Ci CY flf Anaheii~.
Nr, U~uer 5tat~.~ SP,~'I's ~~esi re~s ~rc tc obtain ~~encral ~oniny on t~~c rrc~p^rty fc~r that area
outs~de thc Ff'-1 flood pla~n as vutl+necl ln che coun[y or~inance~ in rclatlonship tc~ thr
Fcderal Insurancc Act (~~A}~ an~i als~ to Nu[ an overlay o` c~ener~l cormerrcial on the
property.
He ref~rteJ to an c~xhibit un t}~~ wall and pninted uut t~~e Riverside Freeway and ttie
;~roposeJ ~Jeir Canyon Road crassiny c~f thcr Sant~~ Ana Rlver into the center af Yorba Linda
and the er.tcns i ~n ~` '~e i r Canyon P,mad wh ~ ch c~oes ac ross the back. s i~1e of ftnahe i m H i 1 1 s
dc~wn t~~rouyh i'etrr's Canyc.m all the way to Car,~p Pendleton, fle stated the present Multi-
Nudr Study st~tc.s that that corrlcSor al iyn~~ent is c~oin9 to be essential tc> the south
county roads ~~nJ tl~at ver~y spetific allynn~ents are alrcady frozen on that corridor. fle
stateJ the sNeclfic, aliynr+ent, the construction sequence~ and completlonhave not yet been
set~ even thouyh it is on che gencral circul~ti~m plan study. Ife s[ated withuut the
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P11 PIUTCS, AlIA11E I M C( TY PL11~IN I tJG COMN I5S l ON. SEPTCM(~ER 2l~ ~ 177~ 7~ ~~ ~
E I R N0. 222 A 10 GLNtRAI PLAtI ~MLMUMCNT ~10. 15 -E I R'10. 2~0 ~ND GENC RAL PIAN AME~IDnEr~T N0. 15G
crossin~~ r~nd extcusian within flv~ y~ars~ the scrvic~ area docs not h~~ve the kind of
access to the {~c~pulation that is n~cess~ry; th.~t c~~~rti~ns of ~~ny ~~rop~ged t~r~~~ram shoulJ
be I~ullt upon tl~e com{,letior~ of t-~~~ br(J~e itself, ~~nJ thc ~x~~ension r~nd th~~ full s~rvices
S1~caulU not ~ecur until thr extensfc~n has been t~m~~letecl. Ile st~~trc! th~ prc~r~~rty is
~~resently ihostly citrus an.f [h~e~ natur+~l .~rr~s Ieft t~~e t,,~,ica11Y tlic flooch~~~iy .~s dt•scrll~ecf
uy t~i~ Fe~Jer]1 Ins~rrmcc ~1ct ~+n~l nuw cuunty c>r~iin~r~c~~. Hc~ St.iter.l th~ orc'In~nce .'tppr~veel
by the county rc 1 fa tr.y to tt+e r~nn by the ~ I!1 wh i ch dc f I n~s [hr. .~rca .is f 1 c,n~lwiy .~nd
currently it h~~s an rr-1 ordlnanc~~ oi~ it, which allcrors cc~n5truction nf ~ny f.icilitY whlch
does nat impe~le ti~e cc>nveyancr of f l~~c~~' wat~•r. Ilc• stitecJ they ht~ve d~~ne n ful l
hy~lrological .7n.~ly~,is nnJ '~avc ~lcterninr~l thcy can pmtcct thc cc:ntr~~l ~c~rttc~n of thc
praperty frori flou~lin~., ~nd obt.iin flourl iiisur.inGC by ~r~vicfinn clthcr a lrvy r~r filliny
it.
Ile s[atcr~ thc~ ~rc ~~rupusir~y :, full Int~:rch,inyc <~ff thc ~nr; of th~~ `.lcir C.~nyc>r~ hridc~c th~t
ta~es traffic incc~ ~i rc~;ir~n:,l f.~ci I ity th.~t is ic~~,p~•ci ar~~l -,uund.~cl h~ ~ae~~ral ~ffice.
con~or~ini.ims~ ~~n~l tomnx~rc.i.~l-reerc•,~t~c>nal wltl~ i ixc~i 1(~~ht irclustri.~l on tt~P t,AC~: sidr;
th.it thc yr~unJ is !~uncral ly slo;~in~; ~~t th~~ nrr..sent tlr,~~ nn~1 thc h~isic ~.~Ic.u'at(nns ~~,~vr
nOt t~c~~n finisl,t•J ns tu ~:!~c•['~~r that stu.,u1.: 1~r c!it.r~' ~r +i G~c>rtir~n Sh~ulcl bc d1~~,1 ~ind
fl I lt~~, ~tC.; Lii~~~ !,oth c~~~c.c't~tti ~~r~' v~~,•y fr•~~~,i1,lc~; <tin~ tl,at t-~cy Gc~ntinu~~u51y have ;~~'o{~lr
~f5~iny for ~~ (~l.ic~, tu pul uirC. fle st~~tc~; t!~~'y PrUI`us~~ ~t r~~c.rc,atic,nal I,+.~.e• ,i4 thcr ~~~1[ewAy
betwc~~n ihc t~r~~ c.i l" ii~5 ar~~: c.~unti ~s tti~<' ~~~vulcl h~iv~• i t wur'I~ ,'ts a rcc.rcat ion ~~et ( vi ty as
w~•11 ~s a fun~.t+~~~~~1 sflt~+tic~n sy5t~•r~~ t~~ thc larcr c!~annc~l itsrlf, an~1 st~tc~l thc
manayerieiit str~.~turr nf ~hat I~.•'~ nc~t f~~~cr~ Jefine~l in any ctrra[ detail~ but (t is pro~osed
a5 an o~~purtu~~i ly tu thc~ C i fy. tlc st,itc~~l i~ i t i s .i recrc~~t (u~.il lnk.c ,an~l thc assc;cl ~t ion
Uf cri ~C~S were. tt~ m.+i nt ~i n i t, Lh~n tf~e ~'~u~st icn~ uf cles i I t inc~ Crnirc~l Is marqin:~l ~ but i f
tfic Qranye County ~lo~~~ Co,~trol uistrict ~~~~u1~1 li4.c~ tc~ wr~r~. witl~ t!~c nrur~~'~v ~~~cr5 on
thc b~515 uf ci~{~lyinc~ [~,c l~~G.c c~vcry two or thri~e yenrs lnstc•~~~ ~f rt~inc, ~fow+~ thc river
{nto Llic chann~.ls ~>i~.~iti~~ up sil,at~un in truci.s~ tl~at t1~.it tuul~l ;,e r~~~~'e~ ,~vaila~le to
them.
MI'. liau~~ Slatr•u Lhi~y ,~rc ~~nxic~us C~ c~i~CU55 th<' r~ulti~~lici[y c~f tf~is proj~ct ~~hich 811c~v5
Llic:in lo lln~ C~y~•thcr a s~~rics i~f c.~~n~r.~,t'., ,~~'r;ouscc: t~y th~_ ~ounly and citfcs in [hc p~~5t,
wh i c.h can t,~~ elc~n~~ at n~! cost [e~ ~ i ther tl~e c. i ty or ce.,un tY . Ile as~.reJ th,~t ~+ des i ynat 1 on nf
yener~l connw•rcial he ( ut o~~ the Fi'-2 ~~t~rti~~r~ r~f t'~~ pr~(`~'rty, unUerrstandiny t~~at it 15
actually in excess uf wl~~t is nrce~~Sary f~r [he re,yional shupVing center~ anc! a~prove~l uf
the yene~~~l clLsi ~;n.it ic~ns .~s ctiut I ineu 1 n P.l tcr~at ~ ve: I, ~~er~•~i tt in~~ ther•. tn cor~e~ b~iC~. at ~i
1~ter tlme wit-~ ~'~rc; cJc:riils.
La~ry ~icrG,, Lx~~cut~vc~ Vicc Presi~+cr~t uf thc Anahcim Char+l,tr of C~mm~rce~ refcrre~! to
their lette:r [~ th,_ Planni~~y Cexx~~I55ion inc!(catinci the Ch~i~ber of Co~,rx~rc.e's sup~ort of
thr 7Z.>-ae.re parc.el ~+i thin t'+~• cicY 11m1 ts of !',naheir~ ~.nown as the Uauer R~7r~c'~; that they
have ~een bri~f~a u~~ t~;is proj~ct on three ~ifferent occnsions an~i the t,oar~.! ~f directors
was t~rlefe~ last ThursJaY ancJ touk. a pasitive act.iun t<r.+arcis ihe regio~al st~oppiny center
as plannc~~~ an~! fel[ ~~rt af this clrcision-i~~.lny ~~rr,crRS wa4 b~~cc~i on thc• f~ct [hat tw~
majar nam~:s whc~ nr~ ~.na~~n As ~~inners~ Kaufr~an L f3roac: and 1'auhn,an~ are involved in this
proJect.
~ran~, .;. U'Oc'u. Jr.~ 111;2 (teach Gc~ulc~vord~ Suite :7`.?~ Nuntingt~n Deach~ ~ttorney
rc~present+r~~; Sea and Sage Audubon Society ~n.1 va~ious other leg~~l environnxnta) groups.
stated they ~.1o riot ot~jecL ta Chis specifiG propcrty cn~mer duirc~ wh~t tticy vi~nt with their
lan~~ but th..~r basic ot~ject~c~n Is req~ir~ng adr_quair. disclosure. when they :lo develop the
land; that Lh. citizens of Annheir~ an~1 the County of Oranqe ~~BVP nn wAy to prevent the
property vwncrs from devel~pir;c~; thcir awn land and the only rcrtiedy the~• have is, prov(ded
in the public rks~~urccs reyuiriny adequate expc~sure and what ti~e tumuiative anc~ ultlnate
impact vri11 ~e~ rwt only in tF~is arra but elso thr annexatian area Nt~lch brought tn the
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MI NUTLS ~/1tINIC 1 ~I C! TY PIAN~II NG COMl11 SS I GN ~ SCPTEMUE R 24 ~ 1977 ~`~-728
EIR N0. 22~1 l1NU CENCRAL FL~~~ A~~ENUMENT NO 1~3-E~,i_ 2~~ ~~~~ GEN~RI1L PL.A-I ~MENUFlEIlT FIO. 1~4
I3~~uer Ranch, Ilc~ stt~~ed thcir objecti~ns are hnsicnlly rcl.itinc~ [~ t.i~c envir~nr~cnt~l
(mpact repc~rts~ specific,ally. nnd indlcet~~i thry ohject tn huth re~~rts ~n the qrounrl5
that thcy d~ nc~t aJclress tl~c ul t imitc im~,acts ~~f r+ny of thrsc {,rc~)~~tt5 ~ such ~is thc
yrc~wth-inducing ii~~pacts~ not ~nly tn the Ei~~uc•r ('r~~c {~rn~crty but a15o thc `.Jali~ic~. an~~
pouc~ ~ as Ranchcs ~[hc I rvi nr {~rorcrty ~ ctc. ~~~~hi ch ~-,rc ~~1 1 l in- c~f ~~nc1 d~~cncS~nt upon n~t
only thc shapp(nq cr.ntcr~ but upon thc southcrly extc~~sicm of '~I~ir Ganyon Rnlntin,~'~~~~ill
~ecorM ~i s i::^ I~~nc~ h i~~hw,iy , vth i cl~ thi:y f~ c• 1 wi 1 1 ~!c~, t rc;y thc r:`~o 1 c cany~~n ~ ~: 1
tlierr has bcen no Je~finite ~lic;n~~~rrt ~~f thr r~~a~!. i~r st~~t~~! t~ry wt~uld o'~jcct h~c.~uSe thr
tSaucr Ren~h pro~,os~~l sl~uulcl h,w~ ~,~:en inr.luc;rJ in Lhc [:l-'. fc,r llnnr~xtttion !~o. ;. Ile stat~J
i t is thc res~,~~ns il;i 1 i tv c>f t~,r CoiY.ilssic,ri nn~! .il 1 th~ ~~n~~rcls ~~n~, ~i~~cncic~ invc~lvrd t~.~
reciui re thc disclr,sure fr~,r th~ clcvc~l~apcr~.. !Ic fc I t~~+hcn thi , sh~~t~inc~ c~r.t^r ~s
ap~-~roved, it wi 11 in~.ii rcctly ~~ffrct al f~~ajic.ei't nro{~crtics c~nc~~rriin~~ accrss~ c[c, ~ and
fe1C nUnc of t!ic5e h.ivc '~c~n i-i~~ntificu in tlu• Elf',, li~. rrf~~rrc~1 t~ ~ lettcr from thr Fi,h
anc! fdric Ucpartmcn[~ su~t~_;r.stin~; t~~nt h~t~~ E IR's an~1 thi~ Gencr,~l f'I~~n ~~i~cn~npniS !~~
rcjccttd. Nc di~7 not fc~~l thr d~~vclorr•~~~nt riill stol~ hcrc~ esrrcit~lly ~•~itti ar~aroval of th~
Ganeral Pl~in ~me.n~fi,.~nts, ~~n~i frit t~~c• Ci?'s, thr annc.~cati~n~ ~ind the 5h~~-~ir~r~ c~nters are
~~1) Ilnkcd, le,iJin~~ to thr uitir»t~• ~i~vcio~irxn[~ ~~nd t}~~~t thcsc: itc~'~ Shc:~u1J bc idcnf.if(~d
an~i addressc~l in tl,~~ Elf''s bric~re they ~irc ci•rt~fl~d.
Ur. Glory LuJ~ric.4., ,(1: ~~~nc~~ c~f the Gauc,las Ranct~~ s[att~d ~, ~e ~lc~es nut kncx~ wht~ther or no[
she h~~s any c~hjectlems to t.-~is rC~~uest; th:+t this ~~rra i5 desi~ri.~[rc! ~5 o~en r.~:+cr. ~~n the
Gencral Plan ..~ncJ it h~~s con~loi~iniur~S on it, ttier~:forc, i[ h4°s Sor~<• rc5identi~~1 d~ns(ty and
she wantcd t~ bc. surr *,hc res i dcnt i~~ 1 dens 1 ty h,is nr~t hren b<,rrowecl f rcir^ the dens 1 ty of
the Uou~}las Ranch~ exr!l.zininy once I~efore it vr~tis Sucac•est~~1 ~~n a nroject that if the
density alloweJ nn thr G~:ncr,~l Plan ~~rrc ~~uin~i tc, t,e i~•~ r~,~sec!, that it ~>e s~htraGted from
ather arr~s. Shc st~~Lcc! [-~cy .~r~~ not dlssatisfiecJ with thc ~1en5i[y cm iheir !'~ro~rrty~ hut
fclt It should bc corsidcrrcf tha[ if one arc.~ of o~~cn ,p~~cc is ~llcwecf t,~ buil~~
condomi nl uns ~ I t ~~~i 1 1 !~e a tcndcncy if»t can !~c quot~•c1 t~~~t 1 r5tcad Of borr~xdi n~ f rom
~idj~cent prorcrtics~ ~~~j.~cent nr~~p~'~~Y ~+~n~=r• can ciuc~tr. that tc~ increase the density on
their pro~~erty~ ancf tl~~t the~ ~v~ral l planninc; of t+~e arca r^~st [a4.e intu ~ons~ideration the
f.~et th~~t densi Lles h;ivc~ ~~ tendency t<~ inc.reasc~.
Shc staleJ th~•r~, sccr~~, t~ bc a lot of c~nfusic~n in a lot of E>co;~le's r,indi ,is t~ Just
where iJe 1 r Cany~n i s Icr.at~~, ancf stated Ne i r Canyc~r. i s not re~ 1 ly ( n Anahc im and she cbes
n~t even G,noa+ the nar;~ of t-~c canyon that ~u?cs thrc~u<~h thc Bauer~ 'dall~~ce and Uouc~las
Ranchr.s and th~uqht rt.~yhc i; is callcd Euc1 id Caryon, ~hc st~itcd Wcir Canyon is i~ehind
i.nahcir. tlills ~~nJ thc hills dr:~in tr~ thc• suuth thrr~uyh Neir Canyo~,anc! thc north drainaae
tf~ruu~~h the Uouc~l~s~ Uall,~ce anel'3.'~uer P,~nches is a separate car~yon, nnc: app~~ren;ly no one
knows its namc~ but evcryc.~ne ~.nc~~s ~•+here it ls locrtcd~ t+n~f thac thc .~lignr+~nt of `,Jeir
Canyc~n Road throuyh tt,c• :~aucr~ 1da11acc and Uauc~las Panches has b~ren decid~d about a year
ago and i t ~lncs not c~~ tt,rou~,~h tt,e canyon an~f I t r~i 11 not de~troy the c~~ny~~. She stated
the ~~lan 1s to put tf,e roac! o~ the hillside and l~ave the canyon alone. She st~~tec7
apparen[ly it has been decided a b(~a expr~ss~laY w111 have tc> he develo~~ed and t`~at anyone
i nwlved i n thc trs~f f i c cx~ th~ !Iewport freeway rii 1 1 at te5t t~ thc fact that deve ~o{~~+~ent of
thc road wi 11 have t~ be done bcfore thcr~ can hc ~~ny ctrcw~th in Oranr,~ County.
Jocl FicE;~ Assls[ant Dlrcc,tor ior Planniny~ state~l t~oth of these Gencral Plan amendn~ents
dre ~ropcr;y a•~nur ini t(ated an~ would, in no woy~ af`r.ct or in~acf. thc General Plan
app rovcd dcns i[y Jcs i ~na t i on s c,n e i the r thc Wa ! 1 a~.:c or poug 1 as Ranches .
aruce Tr1pp statc~ rfien thr. Conmissior~ oppruvcd thc L'auer Ranch somc :~ontt~s aqo~ a11 the
th~~ries a~d eoncepts wer~ dis~:essed~ r.n~S af[er it was approved and annexed ic~ the Csty,
tf,ey had ha~1 tr put these theorics and concepts into action and havc made arran~ements
with [he Jeveioper to proceed tu plan and cnnstruct a reyional shop~iny certer~ and that
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r~Ir1uT[5~ ANAHEiN CITY PLNINING COMMISSInN, ~CPTEMt~ER 24~ 1~7!'~ 7~-72~
E I R I10. 22~ MIQ GE.N~RAL PLl1N AME!~QMCNT 110. 1;3~E I F, ~~0. 2 j0 I1'ID GENEML PLl1!~ l1MCNDr1ENT IdA, 15~~
Chcy havc cbne a 1 ot nK~re than J us t theorc t I cn 1 1 y~+r~~vi c1e Jrawl nys ancl that the cny I necred
plans ~nd drnwinys ~rc avnilablc.
Concerniny Lhe conu~K~nts rey,~r~iln~~ the CIP,~ he st~te~f If th~~ Cc,r~r,tssic~n would li~.e tc~
discuss the di5clusurrs~~ etc., Chat thc cc~nsultant is prc.scnt t~ answc•r any spccific
questlons.
Richard Y.uqhn~ Vlcc Ch,~ir~~~on of Tau;,r~~an Com~~any~ U~trr,lt, ~~ichfy,~rti, st~t~~1 chc ~ucstions
befurc ~hc; Conr~lssic~n ~r~~ "~~~ you ~~~ir~t a reyiana) sh~~pinc; ~:cr~t~r in this ~ircal" ~~d
"whcchcr tl~erc wi 11 t~c on~ or two rcylon~il ccnters in t!~is ~ir~a~" ~in~! if the .inswer is two
re~~lon~il cen~ers~ then possil>ly !~oth ~+arcrls shoulc! f~c 1rneJ fc~r that ~~urpr.se~ but that he
pers~nally clc,cs not fc^c•1 th~'-t that a~oul~.l bc in thc hr~~t int~~resis r,f cithcr [hc cor^munity~
the develu{~rr, ~r thc City; th~~t t!~~:~rc l5 not ~ r~<ir~.c:t fc~r t~~ro ce~~tcrs; ,~nd th.it it a~4uld
crcate ~idciitlonal traffic. ~~r•ohlcrr;, rtc. Hc st.it~.~~! if it IS thc ~'^~irc ~~f [hr. Corxnlssl~n
that anly onc ,h~~ppinri ccntcr shriulc! bc I~uilt~ thcn il waulcf be a n.~tter ~f ~ihere it
~cion~s, Hc stat~~d k~c,[I~ c~f thc,c ;itc•s arc pc~ssi~lc and f~•asiblc frc~~~ rrf;at h~: h~~s scen;
that they ~nc~w it can t~c c1~ne c>n the (3au~r Ranch, both cm ~i technic~~1 .inei en~alnr.erin~;
basis; that tl~u lc~c.~ticr~ ~n~i t~~t~l land use <~nci entirc qenrral arca on both ~,ides of thc
ro~~d ean bi~ devel~~pec' us~nc; ~ tot,~l lancl rnix~ re~~~~r~Jl~ss ~~f the sitc• ~or th~ shop~~inc~
centcr. Ht stitc~c! th~~ Taut;r~an Cor~p~~ny has re~iched an .7qrcerx~nt ~•+i th Y,aufr+.in G aro<id ,tnd
~re preporc~ to prc~cer~f; t,~ai tl,~~y h~ve checl.f~ci the ri~irL,rtn~r+cc ~in~J ~~re satisf{ec' this ls
~ yood lacation .`ur ~~t rec~i~n,il e~ntcr, ancl rc~tuc5tecl th~~i lr, thc r~(S~Jc~m qf thF f'lanninn
Comnission~ only or~e sit~~ t~~• ac~~,,roved for a rcyic,nal sho~pin~~ c.entr.n c~causr it fs nct
pos5 ib le to bui 1 u two; ~incf ti~~i t h~, ho~ed i t coul d h~ ~hti~~ ~nc ~n the I;aue r P,enc'~,
FranE. Elfend, l,'ltrasyste~~s~ rr`crrc•ci eo t!~e ~dequecy of the CIP.'s and ~~resented the
i nforr~at i on thc~~; t~avr usc~l i n~~or~ i ny on th i s r~pc~r[ ~~~d 5 tatcd thr.y havc j u.;t nrepared d
Genera) Plan of Dev~lo~,~~wrnt LIR whicl ~~aa rcviewc~f; thnt t-~~~y ~~r~pare~ ~~ rc~s~~ns~ to th,~t
rep~~rt anei the~ pre~~ared a re~ion.-~1 sho~~;~iny cent~•r r~•por~ and the r~ost recent carxnents
have bce.n ,ubr~itt~~i~an~! that ~~rof~o! Iv 1~''~%,fJ ~~r~cs r,f inf<~rr~Ati~n havc he!n s~~br~itt~•d. He
state~ the E;auer Ranc-~ rr~;ic>nal shr~ ~,iny cente~r re•~~c>rt ~ssentially f~corn~~rates a
referencr. frori the Cener:~l Pl.~n of ~~e~vc~lopmert EI~? w-~ich w~~s pre{~~~r~cf last ye,~r~ so~ in
s~rx: i~stancrs, thr_rc nic~~~t he sorx~ infr~rr~nt(on th~~t is no[ as necess.iri ly cfetai led as it
is in the f3auer Fancl~ ~enrral Plan af Uevc~lu~»cnt f.IR, but 15 t?ursut+nt to the guidclines.
Regardinq thc cc>mr.rnt5 rcl.~tin~} t~~ c:ur~~ul,-~tivc ir;~~~-~t ,~nt! ul~inatr in,n,~ct c~f tl,e pruna5ed
projt~ct~ he explainecf thc• first repurt ~~r~~5 un tF~e Rencr~~l Plan of Devolopr+~ent so there
were nc, speciflr_ p17n;~ ~~rc! t`~~ sec~>nd report is ;~n ~~enrral t>l~~n 7men~irient ~nd they do
not have any sp~cifir. infor~ri~7tion to ev~~luatc. He staicd n~~cfitic~nal docur*~~entation c~n LP
E,rov~dcd when the ('~l~ns ar~ availa:~le. ~Ic Statrd it 15 Crue Ch~y c;o not h<+ve thc ultimate
~r:;~act a~sw~r~ taut th;°y h~~ve dc;ne~ to the l~cst of L'~ri r i!,i 1 ity~ an ir~act .~n~~lySis `~35ed
on t-~c infc~rr»tic~r~ avai lab1~ to cia[c. Nc si~~tcd Lhey do cliscuss cu~ulatlve i-~pacts in
bo[i~ reparts an.: r~~frrrc~ t~~ pa!;e 1"~~ of tf~c ilauer f:~~nch Reyional ;hc~~~iny Center Rcport
~nd thc report inUlc~ites thcrc is ~~ ~ctentlal far dcvel~pr-ent of those are~~s an;t it does
indic.7[c ~~rowt-i-inducin~; in~~acts coulc: be antic:ipated fr~r~ the develonment af ~he project.
Ile ststr_d thc let[cr fron thc Fish and ~arnc Departn~eni has hecn discussed hefare and they
have sai d ln thc addenJ~~ repc~rt prepared last yE~~r i t appears thc al tgnmcnt of Wc~i r
Canyon Road w~ul~1 noc in[crfc~re with t~lclr C~'~nyor~ and th.~t is the rast recent information
they havE; that they tiave indlc~ted the Bauer Ranch regional st~opGing center would not
li~~aci Weir Canyon Road inasmucl~ as t~-e physicat constructl~n of the aauer Ranch reg(onal
shapping centrr ~~~i I) provide ~ropcr erc,sionai and developMent dest~}ns and shou~d not have
a~y impact on the cany~n~ notwithsi~~~ding the l~,cation of [he roaclway, H~ referred to the
que,tipn regardinc; the EtR anA the annexation~ including th~ regionat shonping center, and
sca[ed he had been lnvalved wlth this for approximAtely two monthy and this was t',e first
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MINUTES~ AI~!-IIf.IM CITY PLANt11fIG COMMISSIOtl~ SEPTEMEiCR 7~~, 1^7~1 ~~'~3~
EIR NO 229 AND GEtILRAL PIAN AMCNONEtJT ~IO 1~3-EIP. N0. ?3~1 ~'ID GCNERAI. PLAN AMENDMENT N0. 154
t(me he k~~cw ~m~ttiinq nhout thr. shn~ping ccnter nnd the• infornwtlon was noC evatlable when
the onnexation reports v~crc ~r~nnred, Hc st~~tcd therc is r scction in thc Statc CI~'
Guldcllnes~ 5ectlan 1~,1;~~ entftled "StanJ~rds nf Aderluacy f~r EnvtronmrntAl Impact
Reports;' and read thi: fol lowln~i: "...~i~s.~~lrcrrrx~nt ~m<~nra exp~rts ~ioes not malc An
Cnvlronnr.ntal ir~~ict re{~ort in~c~equnte. Th~ c~urts h,ivr loo~,ed n~~t f~,r c~~rf~ctior~ hut
for adaquacy~ u~mplction flnd ~~ooc1 fAlth f~r full ~ifsclc,surc," N~ titat~d hc I,cllcved [h~+t.
et Lhis tlirx: they have. prnvids~d ful l cilsclosure Inasr~uch as th~ y havc rrovi~lecl information
besed on thc ty~~c of dev~lo~~mhnt r~rc,posed.
Dpn ElauE~r addr~~sscd tl~~• conc~rn cif [hc adrr,u.~c.y ~?f thc~ CI~', an~1 stat~d tt~is u5c is ~
serviee usc ~ird~ iri fact~ ~•ri 1) rcciucc the: t~n5 of ~ollutants and reducr '~orw~-to-sPrviec
trlps fur thc pco~~~~- ~~1rc~~dy in thc ~ir~a and For thc ~rc~gr~~r•,s ~lrcncly A~p~~~~~~ ~~ thc
~reA. Ne 5tt~te~1 t`~e S~~~I ~~r~~~osal cic~es noG ,~ffrct thr hIOCIC. GA1T~U~it1C."> '~r srnsitive
p~O~~~OnS of the c~nyon fl~nr hec.~~se the~; ,~r~ nnt ~~ronosin~; dev~lorr~ent ~n that ~ortion
and are only rcr~vln~; eftrus. !le strted renarclin~~ the~ Chirx*ti.nt5 r~~n~r~iinq whcthcr or not
there shoi.il~l I>r~ ore ~r two sli~~pin~~ c~nt~•rs fs nt~t ~.~allY th~• ctur.stion h~r~ ~~nd fc~t~ of
~r~ur'sc~ tli~:re shoul~i !;c nnlv on~• shnr{~fn~; ccnt~r~ hut tht~t thc ~au~stiun 1~,~ whlch r,itc
affords the R~ost uni~,ue oc,~>e~rtuni ty for tiucccss anef the -mst ~~pF~ort~.ini ty fnr continued
Succc55 ~~ind wh i c:h ~ i t~ c_in r~c!~ t Chc ~Jr_m,~nds t~n nr f i f t~~cn yenrs f ror^ nori; that
surraund(n;~ ~ rc~c~i~n~il sh~i-~pinci ci•ntcr 4,ith r~c~iium dcns~ty ~1n~~S n~~t Ma4c srnsc ~nr1 there
is no*. n rr_~~lonnt sl~~~~~(~iny c~ntcr ~ny~~h~,rr cirvel~~e~i un~~~r t~~e curre~nt ~~ronr.,+~s and
phi las~,~ltilcs whi Gh f,,~~ t`i; [ oricntat i~~n; tl~.~t tr~icf i t~~~n.il ly one-story shc~n~l nr~ centers
eovar 3~ aer~~s uf l~~ncl anci t~~a-story C~~nLefS e~~vc•r u{~ t~ ~`.. ~lCfrS; ancf thnt thc ir~nnrtancc
l~erc is tf~,~t tlie 5!1`J) R~~nc!, c,~n ~~rc,vie;~~ i`~e cxp~~nKinn ne~es5.~ry to~f~y an~1 tnrr~'ru~~ with
mixcd U5c5 thttt ~•~i 11 ~~t• ~~ fu11 ass~~t.
In res{>on5e t~ tlic L'au~~r R~~ncl~ rcprc:,e~ntativc's st.~tcment that t}~cy ire re~icly to protced
at [hc prescnt tir;~c~ hc indlcatccf S~'~:'I is rc ,~!y to proc~cd at thc ~~rc5cn[ tinx~ and if [hcy
wcre givcn thc propcr ._oninc; desi~~nation on the pronrrty~ thcy could i~r~rdiat!~1y tntmduce
the ~.ey peop~e ~N`~o wi 11 f~,l icN~ thr~~u~~h on t`~e project, Ile ~isked Mr, Auer~ prevlously
rs~entioned~ to discuss tl~c full asset t~ thc• City ~f Si[~ ;~ on ~r~e sidr r~f the fre~eway or
Site El on thc' otiier sic1~• of t>>c free~•~ay, and s[at~•ct thc~ lasc t~in~; the City of An~helm
n~cds Is ~ eoo~.ie-cuttcr .~~lutlon t~> a r~yior,al sl~onpin~ ccntcr~ ~~nd st~ited onc~: thc Gity
gets ov~r the mr~ancc of a sliop~~inca centcr ~in.f [he ecano-:~ics o~ a s~,oppiny center~ ihen
they will get dvw~ to t~~r. s~hysic,~'+1 f~l~nniny ,~nd physi~ttl c:esi~~n and tl~e mixcd use tontept
that yoes wi th the shoppin~~ cenr.crs. I~~; str~ted st~c,{~Cinn centers today ~re different th~n
they we re f i v~~ ye~~rs a~~~>.
Al Auer~ Presi uent ~f hlbcrt .i. l1u~~r 4 ~ssociates, st~~t~.~d h~_ has bcen ln the cievelopment
bus i ness for a~~ r~xl rra tc ly 1; yc~~rs anJ has ~Icv~ lope~i a nun~hc r of nr i ghborho~d vnd
~eylonal centers. ItE statc~i hc ck>cs nut d~sagreP wlth anythin~ [hat has bPen said about
opportunities being avallat,i~~ ancl li~ also fcels the~e is a chancc for only one s~~opping
cen te ~, and tf~at th i s i s r,o t the f i rs t t i r~e t~•~c 5~ tes h~ve bcen vy i ng fo r thr. opportun i ty
an~1 he h~s seer~ Instances a;tiere chree pr four sites have been compet~ng~ and the f lanning
Cormilssfon, in its ~~isd~~m, r~iust decidf: vrhi h one mt~kc~, more sense. ~~e suyc~ested there are
opportunit(es oncc in a lifetime Co J~ sor~ethi~g that is nx~re than Just a regiona{
shoppiny center~ and frlt ihis is ~~r opportunliy to creatc another poc~et of developmenl
on the SAVI property that wi11 offer fnr i~re t~ the rrsidents if plannecf in an orderly
manner than Just a normal 5hoppiny center, and tc~d.~y a sho~pir~c~ center is rrx~re tiiings to
rrpre peop le . i1e stated i n our enerc~y-co7sc ious econ~r-~y today ~ s i te : st7oul d bF chosen
which wiil offer mc~re possibilities hy haviny a greater lan~i mass. anci suggested that thts
noi only Ge a re9ional shopping center~ `~ut that it be an office and recre~ition cente~
where people can ga in one trip to do many things, such as golnq to the doctor or denttst~
dolny theOr shoppinc~~ and then stayfnc} in t~±e evening for recreation~ and felt t~is site
is large enoug~ to provide tl;ose opportunittes. ile stated it may be that the developer
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MINUTCS. N~AIICIN CITY PLAt11JIfIG COMMISSION~ SEP7ENLiER 7.4. 1~1)`~ ~~'~3~
EIR N0, ?.29 AIID GENCRAI PLl~l~ At1E1~GMEIIT NO 1;3-CIR N4. 230 A~lD GCNfML PLAN AMCNOMENT N0. _1;4
.~....r ._.-.__.~.
who Is rea~fy tu yo flrst c~~y nc~~ bc the one who hbs the best plnn~ bectiusc I~ his past
expc~riancc it really dc>es ~A~:P. ~~ lony timr~ t>uth in analys~~ ~nd m~~rG,etlnq studles~ to
Jc:ctdc cxaclly wh~~t Is !~~~in~~ to hap~en. Nc f~1t this locAtion is thr crc~ssr~ad ~nd thls
is an cmport~u~ity to picL a sit~ th~~t ~.yill last for rnny yc~rs ~nd will scrve nwny
c11 fferent use5 Ancl Liic quc~~t ion is ~~•~herer c~~n i t t~est '~~ d~~~'? ~~e frl t the SA~'I {~rnperty
pr~vi~fes .~n o{~~c~rtu~~i ty ~~i th the ~r*ount nf l,~n~) ~~vai l.~til~ to clc~ .in nutstnndiny ~levelo{~rient
that will t~e an uE~yr,~Jc [c, tl~c City ~f Anaheim,
T,iL PU(tLIC IILAP,IN~~ Wl,:, CLUSEL.
Conxnisslon~r ,ler:~st ask~~J ~'r. f,u~,l~n if th~~i,' r7:~rt.~~t~r~y ~,urveys ar~ cc~r^~~lrt~ i~d if they
dre S:ltiSfied thi5 5'~n~{~iny trrt^r tiii I1 `>c .~ vial,lc c:~nr~ ,inu Nr. I;u~hn r~~li~r~ thc
rescarch is ec~mc~l~~t~: anr.t t'~~y ar~~ 5~C ISf ~(•tj.
Cumr^issio~~c:r 11~r~~~~t in~fic,nt<.,,! !•~c thuu~;ht [t~e nr<~~crty c~ri b~~th 5ir1c5 cnulcl hr JFVCI~~e~l
eor;plent~ntt~r'y tr, unu a~~nthc~r, r~•~r~,Jni7.lny nrily unc ri~c~{unril st~o~nin~~ cri~tcr wi11 i.~c
~Icvclo~acJ. Ilc as~.c~l !~r, I;u~;hn t~? rrhut +~hat has hcc~ri s~~ld t,y the ~r~vi~us spca4:cr~.
~tf. t:uyhn 5Cet~~J hc a,rces vrit`.~ Nr, Aur_r'S t.asic. ~hilu5~~phy~ but d1~1 ni~t w~n[ to ~)~t 1n[U
a battlc ~s to ~~hu I~+ inc>rcc c;ual if ic.l, Hc indic,~tc~~l hc ~~~antcd Lc~ 5~iy ~is f~,r ~~s th~ iaubiru~n
Campa~~y I5 i:onccri~cd~ thcy arc rc~.;ardeJ as or~c c~f thc rmst inn~vativ~~ crcet(vr. shoppinu
eenter devclopers in the country. Nr a~~reed sh~~ppin~~ eente~rs br.ing built tod~y are not
what thcy were a fer, ye~irs ayo anef tlii~~.~s ~Jn chan~~e, ~~n~i t'~cir car~~any inc~rporates thos~
changes into thcir dcvclopr~ents, lie a~arc~d the shoppin~~ cent•~r shoulci be a ~nc'SLOP~
total-envirannrent type f~ici iity~ hut ~iisa,rc~ed that dhctc~rs' offices s~iould be r(yht there
at the shoppiny ccntrr !~~"CAUSC [hey are t. t~ cliffcrrnt kinds ot tri~~s, ~fc felt rnedical
ot f i~es shoul J ~r.: deve 1 upec: on t~}e t>r ri 4~~hery vf tf~e sf7a4~~+i nr c~nte r~ wli i ch !~r.ans ~•ri th i n
the b~sic: yeoyraphic area. Ne f~.:lt el~cre should be a tc~tal n~IxeJ land use~ a~d stateu
Taubn~an Jocs hav.• that i n ~~1 1 of thc i r dcvr lopn~ents . He s t~tccl li<~ fc 1 t th i 5 i s a great
opportuni Ly aC that iniersect i~n c~n ~1 1 fe~ur corncrs tc, dr~ ~ ~rn~er 1 ind u5e af
dcvelapr:k:nt usin~a a mixed larcl usr.
Cor~missioner Herbst as~.ed wh~~t thei r prel iminary [iminq wou1~1 he on this prnJ~ct~ .~nd Mt.
Kuyhn sta[eJ there is a rk~tt~~r of ~;ettiny [hc zoni~c~ corn;,leted, c)~iny to wor~. on the basic
engi neeri ng~ anci ncyot i a[ i ng thc dea) s wi th thc depa~tment s tores and w~r4 i ng ~:~1 th the i r
time fra~~~e on apcniny their facilities. lie felt~ generally speaG.ing, if the zoninc, is
granted toclay~ the construct.ion period is approxir~ately two ye~irs fr~,m the yraunJbreakiny
to opening~ and addiny to that thc tlme f~~r ncgntiatinr~, prepariny the drawninys~ working
with the departrnent stores, of which a great deal has already t,een c.~ne~ [he timing would
be three [o thrce ancl one-half years for a total time frame.
Cc~mmEssi~ner t3ushorc asF.ed if the Taubman CumE~any hed developcd Lhe ~Jewport Fashion
(sland~ ~nd 1'r. Kughn re~li~~d the Irvine Company had developed that center and that the
Tauhman ComNany ts currently manayiny it and is currently r~-~valuating thc~ Sho{~pin~
cencer on a merct~andisinc~ basis. iIc explatned they havc~ not develo~ed any major centers
in Southern Calif~rnia an~i the clc~se.st is Eastric;rye tn San Jose and Southland tn Hayward,
~~lifornia.
Cammissioner Esushore aske:~j if tt,e Taubman ComT~any surveys have shrnrn they woutd bc
interesced in develapin~~ some of the suppc~tive-type facilities acress the freeway on tl,e
;AVI propcrty, ~nd Mr, k~.u~1~n sta[~~d they are shop~ing centcr developers~ shopping center
rnana~ers and operators~ and merch3ndising peaple and are not in the busine.ss of developing
office buildin~s~ industrial clevelupments~ or t~ousing developments~ r~hicl~ is why they have
joined wit.h K~ufman b E3road~ who are in tf~e housing business. Ne st~ted they would like
to think they are expcrts in the shopping center business. t~e explained they will seek
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R NO 27~ ANn GCNkRl1L PLAtI ~htEN~MCNT N0. 1>3-~I ~ t~~. 2
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/1;IQ GE`~ER~II Pl.l~ll I1r~E-JQML'c~T t10. 15-~
out ot-~cr dc P~~s who Arc, quallficd in tl~asc A4i~ViLICS .~dj.itent to thcir shopplnc~
cen te rs .
Com~a(ssioncr Dush~rc asl~c~1 thc minlmur~ land r~~quirrment to ~'evcl~~~ ~~ shr~ppinc~ centcr~ ~nd
Hr. Kughn repltcd the r~inimuri would ;~c 7: acres~ ~nd Cor~riissioner f3ushorr. ~s~.c<I if the
Toubrtan Cor.~pany wcrr. d~v~lc~~+in~,; on thc S~~VI prc~perty~ if thcy ~~ould dcvclop ^x~r~ of Chc
land~ and ~1r, f:ughn indiepted thac o~vuld hc: difficult to ans~rcr without studytr~ it, but
general ly i t woul ~7 l~c tt,c saMe arca.
Comr~issloncr Talar st~t~~1 hc h.~~1 unJcrs[oud t'~c r~rt~rescnt~t.~vr.s of thc S~VI pr~t~er-y t~~
sey that ~ rc~caicmal shoppinci ecnter eaul~ ro[ hc supportcd with just h:~u5~ny arouncl it~
and 11r. 1:uy~~n stotr.d he persanally fccls c~thcr devrlo~~c+rnC ~~iill occur in th~it area ~~nd
basically a rcyional ,t,~ppin,y cc~ntc:r is drvcloprd o:it and ~~~+~~Y Troci othcr dcvr~l~pmcnt a~'id
i f they are vcry succcssful ~ other( d~~n,`iriuc•sttcU~rfnw,:~ndn~thcr~dcvclc~p~ent's(~4fo1 ~~~.~c~nter
crcates thc trafflc and t~~c hausin~ c t
Commisslaner Tol~r ~~t~tccl It appcars to hin; tt~.~i thc dilrmma thc f,ity has (s a vcry nicc
dllemr~ anJ~ far thc first tlmc ~inec hc I~as been on thc Corrnissic~n~ thr_ City is in a
tatal '1~in/win" situ~tion. Ilc statcd thc CArr~ission has a s~~ec~fic rc~uest from Y.aufr~~n L
firoad a+ith a devcloper who is rcaely tc> act ~i~ th~~ i2 ~~+crrs which h,ive alr~ady becn annexed
Co the City and +•~hich have alrea~+~~ f~n~i i Grner,il Plnn nrk~ndr~nc hrariny~ and indicated he
would llkc: Lo Sec thc Cur~mfssi~in aCt ~>n thi5 rrqu~st. Ilc statc~ {c rcalizes ihcrc ~ire
5oir~ concc:rns an~i it is ~~ussi;~lc sonx: riis[al.c5 ~~ill hc~ ~,~adc~ but fclt this is an
opportu~~ity to c~o ahead an~ c~ivc specific zc~niny <~n the Gauer Ranct` 7::-acre ~ranerty ~~~~th
encourayerx~nt for support-type fac i 1 i ties on [he Sl1V1 property . tlr. pointe~f out the are~~
on the nurth slde ~f thc fre~wray has not becn ann~xcci to the City anJ the flc~od eontrol
problens havc not becn resolvc<i. recognitinc~ fror~ t~~e EI~ that thosc pro5lems c~~n bc
solved. He stated h~. is ready to act on this ~equest fc,r <~n~roval of thc speciflc
ccxnn~erclal z~n~wcould Itool~t~l~r~iaconrk,rcialcand"i~ndust~i~~lly~relit~d ~sesconnthei~`5 that
The Gvnmissi
pr~perty.
Chairwor~an f~arnes staied st,c 1,7d just returned from San Franctsco and had loa~:ec! around
thcre and noticed shoppln~l centrrs ln t;orthcrn Ca) ifornia are diff~rent than sha~pina
cen[ers in Soutliern Califurnia and 11fnLtYc%S~atningf theefederal governme.nt`ciocsdnot,want
re~.~ulations wi11 affect this devclopme ~ P
the c:nclosed-type shopNing centcrs built any lonyrr.
Mr. Auer stated he h~~ jus: attendcd a meetiny ~~i th HUU ~epresentativr.s ~nd that the
federal yovernmc:nt, from tf~c ufFice of the Presicicnt~ has nrnv taken a very scrious look at
reglonal shopping u:nter~ because ~f thei r effe~ct on tlie dc~~ntown are~~s. He expla(ned
thi~ has to do ~•+i th a case in Charleston~ West VI r~inia. whicl~ has never ti~~d a regton~l
shc~pp(ng center on lts periphery a~~d now ther~ are two developers looking at two different
sltes~ similar to this situation, towbuild t~~ro centers dn:i thaG thc yovernrnrnt Is saying
very simply~ "1fiy ;t~ould a~e expen.l .;..~ ni 1 I fon to bui lcf ro~~is .?^J Jcs2roy the. downto~rn?
11e indicated he felt this Is ~ gooc: quescion, ~'~nd that the ~~ovcrnment is trying tu
le,yislatc that ~~1 siiopping ccnters of a rey(onal nature in thc future musC yo back to
anothe r 1 eve 1 of ~yove rnr~cn t. fie s ta te d hc has nat hea rd any tF~ i ng on the ene rgy y ues t i o~ ~
althouyh a lot of studfes have beer~ macfc, ~7nd experts are divided on the issue of w~~ether
or not enclosed malls, b~:cau~e of tt~eir conservation of f•_atiny and aircondltioning,
really are rn~re economical to o{~erate C~ar an o~+en mal:. Fle did not think the governr~ent
has gutten into tl~at issue as yet~ but is involved in Che amount of o~lndow spa~e,
insulation. etc. Ilc felt this would bc a situati~~ wl~ere they ~could w~nt Co know what the
shopping center ~~i 11 cio to the downta~~n area of Ar~aheim.
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MINUTES~ At~ANLIH GITY PLAf~NING CQN111SSIG-t~ SCt'TCMi;ER 7.~~~ 17i~
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The s 1 zc of thc~ Soutt~ Cua, t P l.~za wes
replyiny It (5 i~(55,~~r) 5~1~~ar^. f~et
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diSC~~'•sc~l, wlth Ronald Thom~,son~ Pl:~nning DireCtor~
c~ 1 ~~sob lc aroa.
,1 th~~p i ny centcr woul d tom~~a rc to tht• South ~o~~s t
r, ~~
Ch31 rwcx+~an tsurncs ~~s~,rd har the propuyc .~ .
Plaza in sirc~ otc.. sincc thc Comr,issio~ Is faml Il~~r wlth thac crntcr,
Mr. Kuyhn statr.d he is nnt. fanili~r 4~ith t~~~~t shop`inct c~ntr.r ~~~Fe~~iSOf(~tht~nfcd~~,~~ ~t3
~rtrcn(ties arc cyr lts methocl c~f nerc.han~llslnc~. Ne st~~ted he has ~f Det~~it jr~
yovcrnrncnt's conccrns anJ thclr cc~mpany is involvcd ri~ht nc,~~ (n thc City
thelr redevr.lnprcnt ancl in Chat E.ind of shoppincnsiruct~irr.~. ilcis~in~~entirely d(i~fferent
structurc a~ opV~~~'~ t~ ~i suburGan-ty~ ~ ~ ~~ i~~o ~ ~r~mnunity~ thcy
Ile s t
cksiqn n.~cM.ayc becau,c ~f thc l~nd u5~ . atc~l v;hr.n t ey 9
anAlyz~ the cr~ss~sr_ction of t~~r cc~rx~~unity~ tf~c incor~ lcv~l~,, thc~ ~t.hnic back~~round~
etc. wr,ict~ ylvus thc:rn ~ hetnsi~ierecluforothehrati~nn~lfs~~cp~`~nclc~n[e~r~hey shoul~i e1o and of
tf:c design ch~~t ;hou1J t,r. c
Con~,iissiuner i3u51~or~~ state~l hc h~is rcvle.^wed beat!~ ~:ites ine: the re;~c~rts anci has cor~c~ to the
Conclusion that he wr~ula su~~~>ort thc (Saurr Ronc!~ sit~ for dcrvclc,~~r•x'nt ot th~: rr.qir,n.il
shc~p~~iny ccntcr and thc su;~partive-ty~>e facilltics tn t~~c nr~rr,h~ with 'i~ Lo ;~ acrc~ of
pul'e Gomr~~`rCi~~l ~in~{ r~ixc~ c.~~'~~K•rclal/in~lustria~ ty~~c' uses wl~ic-~ ~+re b~~~~ly nee~lrrf in thl,
~~rca~ ~s ~,r_11 a:. c.~~r~~crcial/~rnfr,~,sional offi_~ usCS, ,~r,c! :h~rrc is .~ ncr•<! fo~ 'ic fclt lf
an~! vcr l i tt lc hous i ny u~~~~~. r~c~~~,t, fr,~~ onc Srtt.'l l area.
technoloq( cal in~Just ry Y
;ec it is <i
ihc SAVI rc~rescntativ~~s c1~~ lo,~~. at thc sii~' ~~~tf~ t!•~is in r~ir~~1~ thcy r~i11
viablr ~~rojcct.
t'~c shappinc~
Glialrwor~an Carnes st,~tcJ shc is ,la~f there .+re t~~~~! ~~~•~~'i~~crs intcrescr~l 1r~
«ntcr~ but did nut ~e•c ~,hy it,c Coiir',is~iun has to Iinit t'~~r,~~1vc5 at t`~iS tin~~ to ~nc
site~ ~Uintiny out tt;is is <~ G~~~rr~~) i';-~n ar~c:n~f~~cr,:. ~`~c asb.~d Hr. t;u~hn if thc f'lanninc~
Comn~:issipn ~rcre tu ~i~{~ri,v the stt+f~'s r~~~rYtli~i,tho5~~'cve1~~^~~~i~htt~'~t~d~vclupWthed
ti~ve on khcir nlans~ irid(catiny hrr cnnc
propariy an~J there w~uld hav~, to t~e. ri~c>thcr Gencr.~tl F'lar~ amendrrnt.
Mr. Kuylzn rcplicd Cxhibit U perr~(ts t-r~ shnppinc) ccntcrs and it will
who gets thcrr: first and he dic; not thinG. that ~•rould he con;fucive ta
deve:lopment. Ile fr_lt t' Co~u~~is5lc~n nuSt ~~•'~4•e the dectsior on 4~hich
best locaticx~ so that i c ck~e~ nut o{~en the dnc>r t~~ a horsc race wi th
competi ng to scc wlio gets tLere f i rst .
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thcn bc a qucstfon
a ~cod, 5OU~G
si tc Y~oul d bc thc
two ~fi ffcrent si tes
of
Don E~auer asl.ed if thc f:astridge Shopping Ccn[cr in San Jose nent~onec~ e~3rlicr is leased
at the present tirr_~ ar.. Nr. ~,unhn replicd that it is. Mr. Bauc~ st~~t~~~i the Bauer Ranch
representatives are askic~y [hat conpetilion not hf e~tuatlonhan~l if,theyihtave~toeco`rrpete
cw~petitian places thc City in rx~r~ of ~~ win/w1n .,
with the progr~ms and land val~~es~ It only iffords the devclonfr r~c~re dollars to work
wi th. fle stat~ed a center i s rcrui red and *he concept of the center i s val i d. He as~.ed ( f
the 75"acre~ aauer Rancf; property can solve the pr~blem in an ecQnomic manner, evnn *.hough
they havc to move a yrcat cfeal of earth ~ or wc~ut d a 2~(1-a~ re s i te wi th mi xcd uses make
samethtng more viable today an~f ~rare econo~~ically feasible in the future. He s~tated
cconemic viability is the real questir~~~~ not j~~st .:onstruction of the p~~Yortunlthofor~9
center. Fle poi nted out Mr. Auer I~as stated the SAVI si lc affords thc opp Y
uniqueness and a com~ositlon of use5 which makes it more vi~e!entlyainatheiCityeofuAnaheim
t1e felt thc question as to whethcr or not the property is p
i5 not really an issue because they are proposing an immediate annexat~f~~~itH~heretto be
hors~ race is good f~rWbihhat~(`C~Am andGhh~hcevFl~oning'~o~ission~can review in the
ingenfous and came up
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NINUTE:'~~ ~t~AfICIH CITY PLAf~NING COMMISS IOfI~ SEPTENOER 2~~~ 1~'J~ ~~'~31~
EIR N0. 22~ AND Gf.'ICr,~L PLAtI ANCtlDME~;7 ~IO. l~rllt IIO. 2 0 ANO GENER~I. PLAt~ l1MENONENT !~0. 154
futu~e ls ~•xclting to thc~~ and th~ir ~fevcloper5, ~Ie fclt thc pQSitlon of the Pl~nnin~
Commt ss ion sh~ul d bc tc, rczone both pa rcrls f~r cnrrnr rci A1 u5c5.
Mr. E3aucr fclt th~~ CompoSitlnn of ~ffi cc uscs ~~ith t~r supportlnq ch~r~ictcrlstic5 ~inc~ thc
abllity t~~ brin~~ c~rp~r~te offlec f.~ci ll;ics to thls c~ntcr nrt sl~~ntfic:t+nt~ .~n~1 thc
abl l(ty to hrlnq mul~i-~~fficr u,~~ bui 1 dlnys wherc~ sinnll cr~r~»r~tn hcndc~u~rtr.rs can bc
pl~iecd is im~~~rtant for this slCr.• frc•r*, the po(nt c~f viM~r that It i~, nttr,ictlv~ to h~ve
th~SC f~~cl 11 tl c5 nc~~~ t~.~ ~'K'~'t t'~c n~e~Ss ~f thr cr,i~,l~y^^t, ~ ~rc1 th.it tti~~ ty~~ nf Se-'vl Ce5
Lf1O~ 8~C tr~i~lition,illy a part :'it i M<3~c~f1.~~ ~Sh~~~,~i~P.c~ G(`11th1' A!'~` AVA~~~~~~1` C:f1 t~;~5 ;<<C.
lic stat~d r~ost natlvn,il cc~r~or~t l n~, 1 i..c tc~ 1~,~~~t~~ .zdJ~~crnt to tf,is 4:in~.f ~f f~c;i l ity ,~nc!
thc: att r,~c.t i vcness c~f t~~~: n~inc c>! Or~n~~c C~unty ~r t~c C l t~; af Anah~ i ~n vcr5us ihat of
Riversf~ie ur Sar Uern~irc;inu :~i I I ottr.~ct ~~~~~~lc t~~ t',I~, or~ ~i. -Ic st~~tr~f thcy !~avc ~i
r~ixt.,rc ~f usc~s th~it eai~ (~c a.!j.it~~nt tc~ ~i rcylcm(~) ccnt~r ~~hrn they arc tc~~iether~ !~ut arr.
different when they ~re not toe;cthc•r~ ~r~i th~~t u'~npnsltic~n c>f multi-use fac(lities is
Iriportant and rk~kc~s thc: n~,Unday ~~ctivi tle~, vcry li~p~~~tart ard vlahlc.
Ile str~tcd t'~r,y -~~c~w tl,p, ~liffcr~~ncr in the dis;~osaGlr inc~nre ir~ adjacent corronunlties tc~ thr.
north and suuth vchi~h bcars hi~~l,ly on thr ~~hility tc; ~c~rt ~his project irr,cdiacely and~
in Goth easr.s~ Lhc im~>orfane~ ~f thc '.1eir Canyoc (load cressin~~ is nccessary and the
extension <~f lJci r C~nyon P,c~ad to Che south is unly necessary in thc futurr ~ and hoth
studies arc prcc+iGatc~1 on that hrid~ac ~~ing forv.ard. Hc stntc~l as far ~s thc ttcx~ frarr
~f twn and onc-h~l ` y~~ar5 is conccrneci, that. ~ un11k~• [hc Etauc~r P.anch who has al rcady
sel~cted their 5uilder~ th<~ SAVI Rarc~. al~o has ,~'tivin/wlr." o~p~rtunity in th,~t they do
not E.nar ~rr~ic!ti clcvcloucr tu c:~~c~osc ~~r~J currcntly therc ~r~ four ~rnpc~sals [hr.y can ~ick.
fie statc~d they eannot ~icG ~ b~ilcJ~r until thcy h~~vc ~i precis~ ~ronr~m f~r thc adjacent
land u1c5 idcntified~ and that thr intcrrrlatiohship nf t'~e c~rncr~.hl~ c>~ the m~ll and
adJacent propcrtY is vcry kr.en in th~.•sc nr.~;c~tiatlons. Ile statrd they welcork thc
con~~ctition and asi;~~~ for the cc~mE,ct i:I~n r+nd fclt tt,c City ~•~ould c~rp out thc winner~ and
it would assure the cic~~rlc;;~~:rs th~t ttie nriec 4,aulcl hr less t~, thc buildcr.
Cur~missit~ncr Eiush~rr indleatc~l I~c th<~u~ht Hr. (fauer v,as saying rx.ietly thc sar^.~ thinc.~ hc
w~s saylny and fr_lt if this wcrc a horse rac<•, thc SAVI rr~rpsent~tivc~s w~~re on the othcr
side af the trac~. bc~cause they sti 11 havc ~~ lo[ o( procPsses to cac, throuclh which the Qauer
Raneh represcntativ~s havc alrcady gone throu~~h, but fclt [hey havc a muCh rx~re unique
opportunity ir~ thr futur~ bcc~~u,e of thcir watcr amcnlties and avail~~bility c` mc~re land
and the un Ique I deas to c~r~pete wi th tl,e 72 acres acrnss thc freeway. He fe 1 t th~y wi 1 i
have a nuch mare vlaule proJect bec~use of Che uniquE:nes~ and elasticEty in the prnject.
Ne felt ~~0 or S~ a~res is not unrcasonabl~~ to tliln~. of in tcrms of office uses on thls
s i te , Ne fe 1 t ~~~e C i ty can hovc thc bes t of both rror l ds.
11r. Daue~ referred to the possit;lr. p.~ssaye of Proposition 8, which may cause a red~ctlun
of the economic eff~ct Itierc ar,c! t-~:~t tf~e cumulnt(vr effE:ct to the City on both parcels
cuuld offsct that siynif(cantly.
Ct~mmissioner E3ushore askrd if [he develo~er would 1 ik.P co see more dlrection from the
Planning C~rnmissioh relating to thei r desirrs cm how thc SAVI proptrty should be
deve toped. f{e s ta~ed th i s I s thc g rc~und f l~or of deve l opn~ent i n that area and he woul c
likt to bc very lnvolved v~hen thc deslgn~tian is placed on that ~roperty and :nvolved in
how it will be ut(lizecl~ not only ta camplementwhat is acro~~s th~ freeway, but the entire
region.
Hr. aauer SLaLE~ more anatysis is rcyuirc~d and a bettcr definttion af the total uses~ and
a possibl~ expanslan of the comn~ercial affice uses is possible. Ne stated thty have a
mlxed use of ger~ral oo~~erctal and offlce with a su9gestlon of hous(nc~~ pointing out ehls
would not be low-Incomc housing. tie stated they have Just completed an analysis for the
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MIt~UTCS~ l1flAHll11 CITY PLANt~I'IG CO~~MI5510~l~ SCPTCNCER 2h~ 1~7^ 1~'135
1;3-EI R~~0. 2 0 Ar~D GCFlERAL PLA~I A~tiENOr~E~~T N0. 1~h
EIR t10. 22 AND GCNEn,AI. Pl.l1N ANC~lpNENT N0. ----
i rvlnc Cor~aiiy for thel r r.~aJc>r sho~piny ccnP~r and t~,ey wi 11 ;,e^n^dln~~''o ;F^c~llew~~rt
Centcr S~x"~~: 3~~~'~ cc~naor~iniur~ units iu th~~ rlc~ rance ~f a.,~~~ tc~ .~~'~ '1
Commissi~ner ;)u,liure sLate~1 thr SAVI representativrs h~ive ~~ unlclu~ ^{~{>ortunity to dc~vetc~~
a supcr-vi~~ie F,rc~j~•et c1~~llar-wise~ e[c. ~1~ st~it~~~ hr lnc,l.s nt ,~ cert.iin ~ire.~ ~f' thi5
property as belnc} util iz~c1 for lcwi-C~~-nx~~1~ r~t~~ incn~~,c Iwutiinc~.
-Ir. E~auer statc~f 1crN-incoric housin~~ ~,~ou1~1 nac hc %~ c~,npatihlc us~ -~asc~1 ~~n thc~ir analysis
d~ne for the~ 'Jc~•~~r,rt Center, thfit thc:y r.ould a{~p^~~l ic~ twa ~irc+u~~s: thc youny~
profcssianal~ u~~m~•rric~l prrson or lc~ tli~ "eri{~ty~nrstPr" or ~xccutivr. ~•~hr., owns t~ sm~ill
busincss in thc arc a; ~nJ t~i~'~t ~~s lnnc~ is thc c~•nl~ r has an 1"-hour acti v) ty ~ the uni ts
would b~~ in thc rar~~<~ froi, $j`~~~^~~'~ tu ~~~~~,1~~ ancl th~~y fin~1 tt~~~inS~~vCS in thcsc t~•~o
dlstintt rn.~~~.ets. cither thc~ h1~;1~~~5t <~r Ic~~•~est i~~~1 th<•y il~ n~t nut ~inythln~~ in t.~etWCen
rclate~f tC t~~c: far~ ly bc:c:tusc It wou1~.1 nnt wor~.,
Gonr~issicx~cr ilerbst statcJ thc Et.iucr Ranc~~ has h~:E~n ,~~~ncxc~l t~ th~ City of Anaheim and
bellevecl. fi~ I~is cr.•~n perse,nal ~~iniun~ ti~nt the t1~~ucr Ranci~ ~~rc,~~rty h~~s b~~•tter access for
a regie~al 5f~~~~~in~1 cent,~r ,~n~' t!~r SAVI ~rc>~~erty h.~~, 1 im( t~~l access ~m~l rven th~u~;h they
are indicatinc~ the~y r~ktiy p<~ssibiy yet .i freeol~y .iccrss, he f~lt th~it. is virtu.illy
ii~ipossible ~nd unlcss I~~: sces sur•~cthinq frc~~~ th~ ~tatc in ~~~ricirq~ hc ~.ould not consicler
1 t and fc) t( f 1 t i s poss (lile, i t W~ulu I~c a l~n~~~drawn qut nrocrss. 11e f~l t breausr_ ~f
S~VI~S lirnltecl access it ~.~~~.ild be vcry u~m~,len~ent~iry to lhc 3a~~er R.inch ~~m~erty t~nd fe1 t
lhe support ~or the ree;i<~rial shc~,pin~; centrr coulcf !,c ~aotten from the ~AVI pm~+erty wit~~
comn~e.r'cial e~ricnteel tuwarcf~ office space al~~ny thc Freeway ~•~lth a frontanr. mad and a
lowcr p~rtion ne.~r thc flo~>~1 t~laln suita!~lc f~r an In~iustri.,t co;,~lex ,:i!h some possihl~
housin~~ in thc arca. ile fclt this woulcl q1v~ t'~e City of An~~hc(r~ .i rr,yt~n:~i ~1ev~lot~rrent
on both p.~ru~ls anci ~x~c ~+ould sur~;~c>rt tne uther~ l,ut turr~ir,, (t arc~und~ it would not
suppurt each other. Ne el t sinr.e the L'auer R~~ncf~ pro~crty is in the C1 ty c~f Anaheim~ the
Corrnissian si,c;ulc! procr.cd wi:h i~~~~ro~~it ~~f thc Gaucr Ranch site as a rcyic~na) shc~pptny
Centcr and enc~ur~~~;r the Sf{'wl rc~,~resc:nt•~tives tc ~1cv~1<`;• thc proF~crty in :+ ~~~ay that H~uld
bc support~ve to the rcyi~r~e1 shup~~iry ccntr.r with oFficc cc~~~~lexes, su~~r typc of housing,
~nd some tndustrial alony thc rivcr.
Jack 4!h i tc ~ Deputy C i ty At tc7rncy ~ c~xr~ 1 a i nc~ thc Lo~i~~i 55 ~ n!'~ s',oul ci f i rst ~~ct on approva 1 o f
the E~P. Nos. 2:~ and 2;'~, rcw~r~,en~!iny to tlic City Courcil that they b~ certified.
ACTlQtI: Conr~i5sionr.r fler;~st offcrcd a motlon, second!~d by Cornisstoner Tolar and MQTIOt,
CAP,RICO, that [f~c Maheic~ City P)annin~~ Comr~issi~n cfoes hereb•r recorm~end to the City
Counei 1 that af ter u~ns i~J~ rinr E I f; tlo. ?~'1 for General f lan Amendrtient t~o. 153 for
d e v e: l o p m en t of the reyi~nal shoppin~~ centcr ~n the Gauer Ranch and reviewin~ evidence~
both wrltten and or.~l, prescntr~l Ca suvplcment dr~7 ft E I R. No. 2 1^. t h e P l a n n i n g C o~ l s s i o ~
finds that draft Elf? No. :?'1 is in cor~llance with the Califc,rnia Environn~nt~~l '?uality
nct and wieh City and State rIP, Guf~lclincs; that cJraft EIP, ~lo. .'.2^ far the proposec~ aauer
Ranch reyion~l sl~up{~in~~ center I,fentifles the following potential signiftcant irrpacts
whieh sa(d project eouiJ hav~s on thc cnvirc~r7rx:nt:
a. Extcnsi vc yradi n~t of the 1~?n~f ~~~( 11 modi fy the topo~;r~ip`~y ~ change thc
clrainaye a~d el imi~~at~ or disf>tace flura and fauna in the pro.ject area.
b. Consi~lcrable arx~unts of vehic~lar trafftc ~ri 11 ~enerate conyestior.~ noise
and ai r pol luticx~ i n the ar^a.
G, Thcre will ~e an increase in the pollutant lc~vel in the downstream
groun~iwatcr rccharge basins;
that the project wi I1 have a local and regiur,al grrn+tl~-inducing lmpact by stimulating
residential and comnerciat development in preaer.tly undeveloped areas; h~x~~~ver.'~24~79
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MIt~UTES~ ANA11ClM CItY PL~NNI~IG COMNISSIOF~~ ~Ef'TE~Nt1LR ?.4~ 1~7~
7g•73~~
C 1 R f10. 22!1 AND GEI~ERAL PLAN AHENUMCNT N0. 1~,3'EI R t10. Z3(~ A~~D GENERAL PLA'; 11~1LI~DNF.NT N0. l;-ti
environmonta) impacts will he reduud I~y c~mpltnnce witf~~ City c~des~ p~~licie~, ~n~1
Nrocedures and thc {~r~~Jcct ~~I11 br(nc~ suf~stanllal sor.la) an~1 ~connmic benefits to thc Cfty
and its r'esidents b; {~rcvtc:inca ern{~lreyr~x~nt~ incre~~sc~i t.~x rr.venue5 and stirnulatinc~ the
developnx~nt of attr~cttvc rr.slelentla) facllitles~ and sai~l ec~nar~lc ~nd ,ocia)
tonsidcratic>ns mol:c infc~siblc~ [hc r~~itl~atlon mcasures or pro.ject .+itrrn~tlves (dentlfled
in thie EIR. Tlicrrfore~ th~; Pl,inniny Corunlssion rccc~r,r;ir,ncis tn th~ Clty Caunctl thnt EIR
t~o. 2?.~ be ccrtl fi c.~ ~~n~.' thit a StaterTx:nt of Ovcrridiny Con~ldrr,at i~,ns br_ aclc~pted,
Co~*missloncr {Icr1,St offrr~d P,c,~'iutic~r, I~u. PC'J~-1'~E' ~n~i r,uvr.cl fc>r its F»ss.~qc :~ncl
adoptlnn, th~~t thc Anaheir~ City Pl~nninq Cornni1551un i1~~c~5 hare!,y recnmr+nnc7 tc~ the City
Counci I a~aptic~n of Gcncrnl Plan l1m~~ndr.K•nt N~~, 1;;, Lan~f Usr. Clcm~nt, rcc~mmc~ndtnc~
adc~ti on uf Exlii Li t!'+.
On roll Call, Llic for~~~yufny rr~,cllution was passc~. I~y thr fallcr.rinca vcite;
/'~YES: COHt11~SI0~l~RS: l:Af,Nf:S~ I!U>IIORE, DAVIG, FRY, IICR~ST, ~:I'~G~ TbLrP
t~0E5: COMi!IS~InI~k:~.;: t~(1'~t_
l+G.,Ct~T i CO!tt1l JJ I ~~1~I. R~ i ~~'~ JC
Jael. t~li~ i tc exp l,il rxzd th.-~t Fioth these ( ter~, ~•~i 1 i he refr. rree+ tc.+ thc Ci ty Counci 1 and dn
adc;itl~nal ~iublic he~~rinc~ vr11! l,e hel~l ,ind nr~ti4~.; ~~+ftl be ~~Iven uf the ~~~blic hrarlny.
Gommissiuner fieri~st off~r^d .~ mc~[ivn~ s~•CC)r tr<1 hy Corr~i55lOf~er Tol~~r ar~d FtUT10'! C~RRICG~
that after wnsicSerlny EIR Ilo. :3~ for the pro~~osc~l cJcvelupr.~en[ uf Lhr' SAVI R~neh and
revlewing r.vlclence~ both tirri,tEn anci aral ~ presentcd to supplcment draf[ CIP, !~o. 23~~ the
F'lanniny G~mrnission fln~ls Ch~~t Jrr+ft CIR ~3~ is in eonpliarce wit~~ thr. California
Env(rc,nmental 2uality Act and wi[h City and Statc EIR Guidclfncs; tl~at draft EIR No. 2;~'1
far the proposcd develor~n~~nt of thc 5l1V1 R~nch i~rntifics the follciwln~ ~otential
siyn~flcant ir.ipact which sald prc~.ject u~uld have em the envfronr~ent:
a, Therc wi 11 br ~i(srt~tion to the flc,ra an~l fauna ln ihr project .~rca.
b. Therc wi 11 be an incrc~ase in thc pull~tanC levci in tl,r downscre~~r~
yrouncA~~at~r recl,ar~~e baslns.
c. Consicierable :~mounts of vehicular traffic ~1i11 gencr~te congestion~ noise
and ~ir pollution in the arca;
that the: praieet wI l l cause tf~e cr?nversiun af opc:n space to urban devc~lopment and wlll
have a lor_al and re<~ional c~rcn~rth-inducinc; imp~r,t by sti,nulating resi~fentlal and co~rxnercial
developr*ient In pr~sently undeveloped areas; however~ such environrx~ntal in~acts will be
redue~J by cura{~liarce: »i Ch City wdes~ pl~~ns~ pol icies and procec~ures; that the projett
w i 1) briny s~~star~t i al socl al ane; econo~.~ic ~en~~f i Cs to the Ct ty and i ts res idents by
providing eirQlayment, increasecf tax revenues and providing anJ/or stimulating the
sievelopme:nt of attr~ctive rr•si~ic~ntial ind {~erha~~s recreational facilicics~ and said
econonic ar ' social c~nsiderat(ons ma4:e fnfeasible the mltiy~ition measures or project
alternatives identified in tlic EIR; thcrefure, the Pla~ning Commisslon recomr~ndS that the
City Council eertify CIR ~lo. ;30 and aJo~~t a Statement ~f Overrl{ling Consi~ferations.
Corm~issiuner Iler~st asl.~d the SAVI property re,,resentatives if they +vc,uld like a
continuance on tt~e General Plan ar~endrn~nt In arder to corne back with a more suitable plan,
or if there is an exhibit show~ ~vhich they would like to have ciranted. He was als~
concerned about thc residcntial areas on the other side of Weir Canyon Road and asked if
the Genera) Plan w~uld allow those to be moved. (Jack Whit~ s[atecl those are possible
designations and are no1 ac~sa~~e ffgurc:s and this ~s a yeneral plan and not specific.)
9124/79
MI IIUTES~ A~~AIICIM CITY PLA~itlING C011MIS..ION~ ~E:f TEMDER 24~ 197~ 7'3'731
E 1 R tJO. 229 ti'j0 CCtIERl1L Pt,AN AMENDNE~~T N0. 153-f.IR ~10. 230 n~io ~,[rIERl1l. PL11N l1MEtdDMEt~T N0. l~ti
Ghnlrwoman Barncs stAt~d this Is n gcncrnl designt~tlon ~nd an cxhibit coul~t ha ad~pt~ci
~hat entc~mp~~sse~~ all I;in~1s ~f dcvclopmcnt.
her, Ooucr sur,ycste~l th~t the altcrnatfvcs whfch show restd~ntl~al ~djacent [o the freeway
are not oeceptable Gec.iuse of the Sound nttc~nuat(on prc>hlems of thr frer_wiy, .~nd stat~d
tho area IS ltmitecl is ta ~•~hc:rc residcntial develc~~rx~nt cc~uld t.~~.e p1,~ce. Ile s~i~qested
the percenta9es represcntac f vr. i n!11 tcrn.ittvc !1 br t.~~:en .~n<i r~ppl ie~1 to thc property wi th
no aE~cclal l~coticm,
Jack White statr.d a recor~rrn~~ation coulef f>e i7~~ie to the C(ty C~unti) thit no chan~r be
ma~e at tl~ts [inx~, hut that ~~r.rcenta~.~cs c~~nnc~t be set cirn•m for lar<1 uses.
M~, l3auer sug~cstecl that Exhibit l1 be ~~~~{~mved ~,hicl~ ~,~ould !>e ~ecept.~hle t~~ the SAUI.
Jocl Fick~Assist.~nt Di rector for Pl~nnir,q~ st~~trd thc anpl (cnn~ h~d subnfttecJ three
~3lternatives anc; Altc:rn~~tivr !1 is thc .iltcrr,ativ~ thcy ~refer~ acrP~~c~c-vr1s~ and
pe!rCC.ntage~wise, ~~ne1 ti~~~t It wnul~i acc~r;ur~~l,ite ~ ~ec~ii~n~~l sh~ppinr~ center; ±h,it
AlternAtives i~ and C~•-err. tf~~ second and t~~lr~1 choicrs dr.sic~r.~t~d hy the ~i~pl(canL.
Cnrrmissioncr Uushare stated he would li4.e tc~ ~tudy this ~ llttlc rx~rc and fclt it should
:~e kept ~cncr.~l and was conccrned b~causc rcoplc do p~lnt to thc r,,~n ~~nd se~ thc spectfic
loeations ~atf~er than ~~ ~~enr:r,~l lacati~~n.
Commiss(oner Tolar statccf the Corx-,issi~n tnuv,s it is a Gen<~ral Plan~ 6ut that hc has s~en
a lot af Genrral Pl~ns becor;,c rcallty becau5c peu~lr.. 5ee this~and s~r~c are.~s of the eanyon
f..3ve heen gencr~lly plann~t~1 for estTt~ :lrnsity ~•~ith r,ne untt ~cr ~crr.~ and havc heen
devPloped with cluster housinc and st) ll cor~pl ied ~:+i[h the Gen~r~l Pl,in. '!c stated he
w~nted to encour~~c~r. the Sl~VI repfLSCn,atives t~ devel~~ th~~t pro~~rty ~~s support to the
~egional ce~nter ancl felt 1t is f;~r tn~~ prcnat~iru to st~'~rt dr~~~ln~; lines on thc r~~~~~ and
thr+t Lhey have not E~vcn ha~~ tinx to study the r•raning ~f this rcytor~ol center,
Chairwoman Barncs asl<cd Mr. L'auer if hc ~~~~uld likc ~ contin~:~ncc.
Nr. Cauer State~i they woul~_! nre.fer tf,at thc Cammission either a~~r~ve Exhihit l~ ar deny
the :~pplic~7tion. Ne stated h~e woul~ 11're to eor~mrnt re9ardinn the ~ccess issuc ~~s
rnentioned carlier~ .~n~! statcrt tt~c -~bility- for ther~ to xal.e accAss off `.lcir Canyon Road
wlth the interchanye the.y havc pr~po,ed, which would hC constructe~ ,j~intly ti•rith CalTrans
on a fec basis yc[ tc~ be deterr~i;~cd, his rr,~re.~ c~~~~~cir.y th~n thc t~~+o ~~ess points
presently off 'Yleir Canyon Roaci to the shoppfn~ center~ and they ti•,oulu Jo it ir~ a manner
eonsistent wl th thc long-tcrm ccnce~t ~f bJeir Cany4n. He st~te~i Wei rCanyon Road wi 11 not
be able to handlc the traffic ~roposr.d from t`~is shopping eentcr with a sl~~nalization
~rocedure and i t wi 11 I~ave :o have ramps ~nd over~asses, etc. } and p~intecl out thei r
report addres~es thest ~ssues. Ile stated the Taubman Company does not have any major
stores lined up; that they are developers and are in thc ex~ct sar~ p~sltion as the SAVI
representatlves and wt 11 have to find s~mebody to corrnit ctiemsclves to lease the
fac(lities and are not ahcad in this game.
Commissioner Gushr,re stated the Cor.unisslon wants thc SAVI pe~ple Go be supportive of the
~auer Ranch property across the str~et and nc~w thc SAVf representatives are still asking
for the horse race and he dues not want tn see a horse race or a hodgepndge development.
tle felt everyone wi1) bcneftt from further analys!s and he clid rx~t ~~ant to hurt the
developer by maE:ing a fast decision.
g/24/79
~
MINUTCS~ ~",NAHCIM CITY PLAtlNING CQMMISSIO~i, SEPTCMtiER 21~~ 1'?1~ 79-138
EI R NO_ . 22~ N~0 GEr~ERl1L PLAN AMEtlpNC!!T NO ~! ~3_,C 1 R N0. 230 At~D GEIIC Rl1L PLAI~ I1NEtlDMEN7_ t10._) ~1~
~1r. I~auer inAicnt~d thelr tirne sche~lule is such that th~y need a decision. Ile stAted th~y
arc asklnh for th~ conc;r.pt or pcrccnt~iycs of Exhlt~lt !1 in ~ confl9ur,itl~~n to b~ set at a
l~~ter ~iCe.
Jack Nh 1 te 5 tated the Comr~l ss ton cannot ,~p~,r~~ve th~ Gener~i) P i~n an a percentagc basl s and
1 1 nes mus t bc s f~own ,
Cnrxnisstoner IINrt,st stt~tc:i hr~ would sup~c~rt Cx.hlbi t 4 bec~ius~ hc is 1~~oG.inq for a
supportive land usc and fclt that r.xhlbit cc~~nes closest. Ile crt~lain~d the suppor~lve I~nd
uses would be corrr~erclal offlce~ in~lustrial~ anc! some residential, and all that is shown
on Exhibit !l.
Chaitwoman (;~rr~~s stated eventually ch~ 5l1V1 r~~E~rrsent.~tivas a+lll h~ive a p1~in that is
prc~bably not c:en elosc to arh~it is shc>~~m ar~d if any nf thc exhibits wcre ap~roved, she
felt they would be requcr~tiny ~~ Gencr~~l Pl~n .irrnc;nrnt ~~y~~in anci suyges[ed that thcy
continue th15 r~q~est untll they have a plan in min~~ bec.iuse thl, woulri I~e l~~cf:ing thPm In
to a ccrtatn dec~rcc.
Jack White st~ted if th~~ f linnlnc~ Commisslon taL.es an .ictl~n at this tinx~~ even if it Is
an act (on recorm~endi ng nc~ chan~e tu the Ci Ly Cour~ci l~ I t woul d enable the owners tn get
the matter beforc the City Counci) at thc same tlmc thr. at~ucr Ranch proposul is hcard;
hcywr.ver~ If a continu~ina~ is grartt~d, tl~r mait~r c~ulcl not '~r. c~nsic!~r~d hy the City
Counci 1 at Chat ti~,c.
Commissioner Ilerbst st~~t~~! he war•~ted the Council to get a rrcorrx~ndati~n fron the Planning
Corr~ission and indicateu he ~•iould recorme~r.d Exhil,it t3, and Mr. Qauer ~~s~:eci lf they woulcf
have an opE~ortunit.y to discuss Cxhihit 11 bcfore thc City Council if Exh(bit E~ is
recormtiended~ ancf iL r~as indlcatcd they r.ould,
Joel F{ck Suygcstc~l that the Gencral Plan is for a ycncrol land usc r,ix sini lar t~ 4+h~~t is
betng considered on tt~e r~~jor ~roperties in thc ari~~ ~nd when thc pl,~nneci torxnunity zc~nin~
or speelfic zoning for [~~e SAVI Ranch i5 cansicler~el~ the Genrral Plin ~•roulcl allciw the
juggl ing of uses for thc~ a~~4~ro~~riatc l~c.ition.
11r. (3auer wantcd to sl.crw t!~~ Planniny Conu;issic,n a contcpt of ,~hat Exhibits A and t3 would
look 11{;e~ and Connissioner Qushure statr ' he ~Jic! not r~ant to lool. at tt,e concept bceausr_
this is a~eneral pl.~n .~nd nnt a spc~ci fic pl,ir~.
Commissioner lierhst st~~te~i f,c is loot.in~ for an in~iustrial F'~ar4, conce{~t, and Joel Fick
explained it w~.~i1d l,r acceptahlc unJer the 9ener~l indus~ri.~l designation and the.
applicant ti-~oul~} ask for a conditional use perr~it for an industrial center similar to what
has been approveci elsevnc~rc in t~~E City~ and Jack White st~ted t!ie Cor~mission will have to
approvc wliatever is devcleped on Che property ev~ntually.
11r. Bauer stateel the R~creational Clcr~ent ~~~hich is shoa~n on Exhibit I3 is not includfd and
polnted out tliere is a design~[ion for gnncr~~i open space and H~anted to clear that matter
up. ;{~ asked that tlie open space clesignation be ctianged to not nitural ooen space~ but
recreational open space~ and Jac4 White r.xplained the General Plan is ftexible enuugh :a
permi t al 1 of tt~at under the des i~~nat ion of open sp~ce.
Cortmissioner Herbst offered Resolution tJo. PC79-1~9 and moved for its passage and
adoption~ that the Anaheim City Planning Commissian dt~es herehy adopt and recc~nxriend td the
City Counci 1 adoption ~f Gener~•1 Plan M~endment No. 154, Ext~ibit a.
9/2~+/79
MI~IUTCS. ANAIIEIM CITY P~AN~IING COMMISSIO!!~ SEPTEME~FR 7_~~~ 1~7~1 1~'73^
EIP, N0. 229 ~~+D GEr1ERAl PI.AN nMCNnri~~~T ~~o. 153~EIR M0, 2 3~ ario c~r~FRn~ PLAN 11MCNDMENT N0, 15~+
Prlo~ to votinq on thc ~abovc nrotiun~ Commfsslr,ner Ilr.rhst ~xpit~inFd th~y arc making thls
recamnendat i~,n t o tha C 1 ty Councl 1 s i nce the P1 ann i n~ Co mm) ss ton has r~cor~nc:need approva I
of Gencr~~l f'lan Amendment tlo. 1;3~ Exhlbtt A~ for the E3a uer Ranch to ~~crmit the rec~lonal
shopping centcr, And Cliat ~'~i, desiynr~tlon on fxhih(k B ~~pp~~irs to b~ the hrst nl~n th~t
would l,~~ sup~c~rtivc f~r the regl~~nal s!~~{~p(r~~1 e~ntr.r,
Joe I Fi ck ndded~ for cl ~iri f( c~-t I~~n, th~t the uses stx~v~n i n the oren space ~ireas f~r
recreational-ty~~: ~r~iter uses cm ~il) thr e~r~c.ept pl.in5 th.it 5t~~ff has see~ a+oul~? b~
~cr~~~itc~d in th~~ opcn 5p~~cc irca~~ .~55u~~~ln~; th~+t is wh.it is beir.g ~rc~ros~~cl.
On rol) c~~ll ~ tf~e forc;c~uln~~ rrsc~lutic>n ~. ~s p~~ss~-~1 hy [hc fUllawiny v~~tc:
P~YE.S;
~ia~s: CCt'1',I
cc-~,~,i S51011LRS:
~sio~;crs: I,~';'ICS, ttU5110f,C~ U11VIb~ ~RY~ IICRE;ST~ t;l'![;~ Tn~~R
~~o~~~
AE1~E!~T: COIa,H1 SS10!1E:R5: !10'~E
Jac~. White ~,pl~~inc~: th(s r.~~tter ~~~ill ~~o to the C(ty Councll ,~nef there v~ill be another
pub l i e hr..ar nc~ anc: not I ces ~~f 1! hc sent .
ITE~t NU. 1S READVCRTISCp Pt;,iI.IC -IE~~~INC. 0',I'~E~': ~"~9EL J.
. ,,,;~~P~TIn!; ~~Q, )j-7~-(>1~ LAUCP~ TRUST UIVI51^'I~ U'11TEL~ CnIIFOR'illl NATf~!IAL
[1~t~t:~ 7^7 1!I lshl~r Cioulrvnrd, Lo5 Anc~rles~ CA ~?0~)51.
qGC~tT; -;EN7 LA'ID CONPAt~Y ~ 1 F'10:: Dardccn Way ~ I rvt n~ ~
CA ^~:7G~. Ceti tion~r r,~quests At'C'~DME."T OF TIIE QAI~E.R R!1'~Cfl G~NCP~L P~l1'I 6F OEVELOPHCtIT T~
ItJCLL'DE. A 7?-!',CitE: R~CIO'tl,L 51i0FF'I~l!'. CL';TIR - RS-!'~-1+3.~~~~SC) (RESICE~~TI~L/AGRICULTUP,AL-
~CCi11C C!.~••f.tfX1R OVff',LAY) :~~'IC T~ CG(SC) (C~MNCP,CIAt ~ GC'IEP./1L-SCf.fI1C cnr,ri~c~r. ovcr~~nY) ZO-~C
- on thc ~aut~~ si;!,~ of ;ant~ An.~ Canyon P,or~~f, .~pprc~xir~~tcly 1~~^ fcct ~~~~st of 1~lci r Canyon
R,~a~f; I1I;D AF'~~'~[~I!C'IT TO SF~1CR{+l C~I~i?ITIO'~S 0~ CITY C~U1~CIl. RESOII'TI~~! Il~. '~R-~^.
7here was na one ir~cfic~tin<~ thcir presence in c~(~n5ition t~ sub.j~ct rPqur_st~ and although
[hc 5taff rrnort te; thc Pl.:enninc~ Connission d.~tcd Sc~pt~~~t~~cr 7.r~. 1'11^ was ~~nt rcad ~t the
publlc heartny~ it 15 rc~ferrecl to Sind made .i {~art ~~f thc~ ~,inutes.
Erucr Tripp, re;prr.sentinci t;auf~~~an b;sroaci~ ~~ras ;~,r~seni to answcr ~ny ciurStl~nS.
Itanald Th~r~~son, P1.3nnin~J Uirector~ cx~~lained that thc pctitioner has f~~;uested an
amc:netrnent to th~~ planne~ co~munity zonin,y ~dopted En r.onnection ~vith the [lauer Ranch
G~c~eral Plan uf ~evclo;~rr~r~t (Re•risian tio. 1 ~f Exhlb(t No. 1) to rx~dify thc La.id Use~
zr,rning, Par4;, anr! Opcn S~~acc. Lircul~7tton, and Population Elcrrnxs. and text thcre(n, to
inr.lude an approxir~ately 7~-acre regional shappinc~ cen;cr (proposec! CG~ Corrx~rcial
Gcneral zonlny) in che northa,cst ~ortian of thc ranch ~ro~erty (Rev(ston tio. 2 of Exh1b1 t
t~a. 1) ;:3nd thnc the rxti tioner 3I50 rrqucsted ar*+endmcnt to C~ndl tlon Nos. 1~ 2~ ~+, S and
21 af City Countil Res~oluti~n tJo, 7~R-5~ to permit finalitatian of zonin~7 ~n thc threc
cr.r-rr-crGi~1 yites sharn in the proposcd revislon of thr. Qaue~r Ranc`~ Genr.ral Plan of
~rve_lopne~t {Revision tto, 2 af Exhlbit No, 1) prlor to sa•.isfaetion of sa(d eondilions of
approval, Ne further explalned that sta~f's cnmments enc!/c~r recexrmendaticx~s on each
chae~c~e a~ follor~s:
~, Condlt(on No, 2- S;~bmiti~l af a legal description ,~nd map prep.~red by a
qualified engineer a~ land survcyor is accept~hic~ In lteu of a r,•carded
parcel map.
9/24/79
~..
MI ~~UTES ~ ANA,IIE l ft CI TY PIA~INI t!G CQMMI SS I Otd ~ SEPTEMBER 2~+ • 1~ 7" 7~' ~~~~
KCCLASS I F 1 C~T ! Ot1 N0._ 77- 7~-~~~+ ~con t 1 nucd)
b. Condltion tln. ~i - ~' `f rec:xnmenclc arx~ndi~~ the condltlon t~ require tt ~c
ftnal sreclflc plo~~~ ~e approvrd E~rlor to the issu~nce of a cJr.idln~ r~r it
r~thcr than a building perrilt. an~i th~~t Chis is ~iyrecat~lc with th~•
dcve la~~~ r.
e, Condit lon !lo. ;- Staf f rceocu~nds retalnin~~ a s ir~i l~~r concil tlon requ! ri nci
dedi cntlon ~f ~3d jaccnt SGCnic ex~~rrssvrays ~ etc. ~ 5ec~~usc ~~ny ~ther
devcto~~,ment in t~~~ l'+auer f~anch f'C a1i11 suffcr if 1lcir Canyon Ra~d and Sant~
/1na Canyon Ro.~c1 ~~rc unirmr~ved~ an~1 hoth a~iTM'K'r'cl~~l I~arcels ~~r helnc~ s~ld
with ro ~ju~~rantc~ tv tF~c City thn[ clcvrl~pnx~nt of hoth ~~ill bec~in prinr t~
conr.r_ncement of ~~thr.r c~inyon ~re~ Jcw~l~~~rrr_nt; h~~~revrr~ ar i rrev~cr~hle offer
Of CjC~~Ci1t1Uf1 1'Ii1t~C ~~1Uf t.'.; ~riSlJi~nC(' Of 1flY ~~~~~L:~fl<i ~~crmit 15 .acr.chtat,lc.
J. Canditi~~r, 'ia, 21 - This r.c~nc+iti~,n ~•~as ,•rritt~n to .~llf~vi~itc City conccrns
reyarc.;iny ihc "~:~ssibl:~ .7lvcrsi, ~•cc~n<~r~ic ir~~~.~ct of ~irvcl~rinr~ thc E3auer P.~nCh
ancJ oth~~r uutlyinci c~inyo~, urc3c~~~rtlcs !>n thc rcnk~ind~r c~f t`~c~ City t,ax~ayers~
.~nc~ tl~it, ec,n~iltlon r~fers [~~ th~ {~ut~lic facility ~~lin ~~nc1 r•~~~uir~s thit
tur~r~crcial clev~lot,~.x.,.t '•,~' ~~arf~~~ priur tn s~~sec~uent r~•si~lenti.il clevelo~~~nt~
~~nJ thnt ~~l~ins bc a~pr~vc~1 prlur t~> J~vc•lo;~rr~nt of any resl,~enti.~l
devr 1~,~,r~rn t.
AnniF.a Son[alat,ci ~ A;,istant Ui rcctor for ;onin,~~ r_x~~lainc~l tt~c staff rcp~~rt should bc
corrccted: ~~:herc~ any re fe re~ce i s r,~c1e to E I P. 1l0. ? 3~ ~ I t sh~ul c1 rr..id C 1 R'~I~~• 22~ •
J~Ck 4Jhite~ Deput.y City Att~rnry~ ~oln[ec! vu! the Pl~~nnin~ Conr~is5ion's .3c[io~ woulef t:A
reconv~endati on to the C i ty Cc;~.inci 1 tc, a~+en~ t~~r. i r res~~l ut ion.
~CT1~'~: Conr~is5~c~ncr {ler~st c~ffcrc.+ a rx~tion. sccc~n~+r~f by Co~^r~ission~r Tolar and MOTION
C11RP,IED~ thac th~ 1lnaheir• C(tv Pl,inninc~ Cnrr.is;ic~n d~>es hcreby rr.ccn'~m~no~p° ~hbeCamended
Caunei 1 that thc eondi t i~.~ns of ~pproval i n CI ty Cc~unci 1 Resol ut ion ~10. 7. 5~
as fol lo~r5 i n conncct ion ~•ri th f'ccl ass i f i cnt i on !lo, 77-7"-E>1+•
1, That thesc reclassif(cation proceedings ar~ yr.~nte~J subjcct to t'~~e corplet~~~~ of
annexat ion of suh jec[ pro~~crty tc ihc Ci ty af llnnhcir~,
z. a. That ordinances reclassifyiny nny RE51UE'ITlf.l ~~ortian o~ the rropert~ shall be
adopted as ~aeh parect is rcady to c~mply with conc.'.itions pcrtaininy 2o sueh
parccl; providcd~ howevcr~ that the word "parcel" sholl m~r_ar ~resently existing
porccls of record and any parcel or parcels apj'~roved by tnc Cfty Council for a
lot split.
b. 7hat ordinanccs reclassifytn~7 any COM+~EF.CIA! or OpEN SPACE ~4iih~cor,ditions
property shall be adupted as each parcrl is rc~ady tc~ cucply
pc:rtafnin, to such p~rcel; provided~ ha.revrr, tF~at tFe word "parcel" shall mean
eithcr (1) presently existine~ ~arcels of reccrd~ or (2) unrecordec! ~~rcels for
which both a legn) description and ~e m~~p of said p~>rti~n hivr been prCpared by or
uc~der the direction of a re,istered civll e~gir~eer or llcensed land surveyor~
sald 1cya) ciescription t+nd rwp ~aving becn furnislicd to tt~~ City F~y the praperty
cn~~ncr(s) .
3. That the nur~~:r uf d~~elling units ner acre proposed (in connection wit`~ tract maps~
parce 1 rk~~~s , or other deve I opme~t p 1 ans) fo r rach 1 and use a rea i n the aaue r Ranch
Planned Gorr~uni ty rn~y be equal to but .ha11 ~~t Exceed '~~ averagc Urnsi ty as .~~p~ved
in the aaissr Ranch Genernl Pl.~r of Development unless such propasat to transfer
dw~111ng units betwecn or wt*.t,in land use are.is is submitted to and anproved by the
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MI~IUTCS~ AiIAIIEIN CITY PLANIII~~G COMMISSION~ SE:PTEMUCR ?l+~ 1~79 79~~ ~
RECLASS I F1 CAT I Otl t10. 77-7£~•G4 (cont I nued)
Planning Camr+lssian, Pl~ns far nny proposr.d transfcr of dNelling untts sh~ll Icicntify
the land use irens ~~ffceted .~nd shnll speci fy both the ~~~rc~v~d and th~ propc~sPd
dwclllny unic counts In all ~ff~~cted lnnd use ~~rct+s. ThP tot~-1 ciwr..lling unlt count In
Lhc Oaucr Rench Plr~nn~~1 Comn~unl ty sf~,il l not c•xcc~d f'~~.
4. a. That priar t~ thc (ntroduct(~n nf .~n c~r~ilnanc~ to CSCA~~I15h zoninh nn c~~ch
f,LSI'~EtITl~1l, p~~rccl ar p~rccls ~•-ithir ihc~ P1~'-nnc~~ Comr~tmity~ ~~nc1 in .~cc~rd~ncc:
with the rrr~visi~n~~ of thc~ "PC" ~l~~nn~tc! Cor^mur~lty Zonc~ thcr~• 51~.~11 b~ suhmlttr.d
to thc Gity Plirn(nq Cor,r~ission for r~~vl<<•~ ~~r~1 ~~~+~~rc>v~~l fin~~l Snrr.ific pl~~ns of
dc:vc lo{~nx:n t for thc ~ir~•a(s) i nv~l veJ.
b. That {>rir~r tc, t`~~ irsunnc~• r.~` 7~;r,~tlinn ~rrr~it c>r~ c~ich C~~~t~EF~lt~!. ~arcr.l or
p~rc~l; ,rittii~~ t! ~'l~~nnc~.' Cor^r~unity~ ~n~i in ~ccorfinc:c ~:itf~ tlic ~r~vistons of
if~~ "f'C" f lonnc~' Cu~ir,, 1 ty ~.unc~ thc~c~ shn} ~~,~ sii' r~i tt~~~ [o th~ Li ty ~lannSng
Cormis~.,fon f~r rcvi~~+r ~nd iE~prnv,~l fir~,~l s~~~ciflc ~,lan5 ~~f ~icvclanr,cnt for the
arc~(s) fnv~c~lvc~.:.
t. Not~•+1 thstincflnc~ thc ~recrdl n~; Cc~nd( Llon tlus. ~i,i ind ~~b~ thc dcvelopcr sh~~l l
cor~~ly wi:~~ thc ~~rc~vls(~~ns of "luniclp~l Co~.1r S~ction 1f',c'•„~t,n,
Final ,pcc{fic c~lins fc>r thc ;~~,rnc~se uf this r~cli55lfir,~Cit~n sh~ll lncl~jde~ but not
bc lir~ited to, thc fcllc;,~~in~~:
a. Topogrn~~h I c nt~C
b. 51tc plans an~i :~luvati~ms: ~hc,win~~ t!~~ plac~nx~rit of tt~c ~,uil~linns and
Stfucturr5; t`~r fronl~ si~ir :-~~d re~~r cl~~v.~tic,iis; an~ thc t~xt~~•io~ hu(ldlny
materials~ inclu~iiny rr~~finc~.
~. Lot dirnensians and pad six~~ ~f ai i luts auffir:icni to in~~ic.~tr thc rel~ti~nshi~
Of tt~c prcx;usal tu thr n~-~tur~• ~~nd ~xtr~rit of C~~~~ cut-.~nd-f i 1 1 nr e~~rthwc~rk.
invc~ivc~i,
d, Landsc~~(>in~~ pl~~ns: fn~~ic,itlr~~~ thcr cxtrnt and tya~' <~f nrn;,os~•c1 1~~rclSCapinc; and
incluJinc~ ~~ny c~xls:!n<~ v~c~t.~;it~n.
~, Vehiclc circulation and ;~arL.in~~ c~l~~n: irdlcatinc. thr n.iture ~n~1 ex.teni of public
and private stteets~ public alleys, or public ~~cr_es5w~~y5 f~r vehicular
circulnti~>n, uff-ctreet p<~rb.ing and veh',~t~ Cx15tri~,1 ~nd plann~dn"('thinpthGOSCd
acccss ~~<>~~LS to ~anta ~+na Can~yo~, Ro~~c.
entf rc Elauc~ Ranch Pl.ir~nc~! G~~Mmunl ty.
f. ~questrian ord hi~.inr, tr~Il~a plan: 5~1UYJIf i,hc ~I~~c~ ~c'nt ~~nd ir~prov~ments of the
tralls e~iscnci~t.
g. Fe~~cr ~nd/~r wal t pt ar~s: t ndl cati nc; ,hc tyt ~~ ~~ fenci n~; atr~ng any 1ot 11ne of a
S1 CC B~~UiL ~tl!) d SLrrCL ~ r( vcr, trecF:. nVCn SC~~1"~T' ~.ir~in ~~~7~.~ ~ fAI ~ ~C)A~~ Of OLh@f
work5.
h, Signing plans: irdir.a[In~~ tt,c propc~sed signir~g t~ro~~ram and i~cluding. but nnt
l iml tcd to, any (cient( flc~~tion~ busincs~ or other siyns; ., .f spect fying the size,
height~ location~ color~ natcriat and iighting of such siyns.
,, 7hat ~n trrevoca5le offer of dediceticn f~r all pul~lic streets intli.~~:ing scenic
expressways ancl arterfai hic~hw.~ys shall !~e made• tc~ the C1ty of An~i~-eiM in aGCO~dance
w(th the subrnittcd Circulatiun Cle~rne~t of thr flaucr Ranch Gener~l Plan of Developmec-t
and with the adopted Circulatlon Element ~~tu`retonissuancer~of~~~ny}Dulldin9ipermlts.~
dedication shall be accel~ted by the i,ity p
f,, That dedic~tic>n of vehicular access rigl~ts except at a{~proved ~ccess points ta Santa
Ana Canya+t RQOf finalcsr.ctfi~ckvclapment plaln5`j~O~c'CBCh rarcelfand~prforf to,theny
thc ap~prova P~'
9/24/79
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MINU7ES~ l111AHCIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ SEPTFHDER 2A~ 1~7~ 79~1~+2
RECLA551 F CATION I~O, )]-]Q-G~~ (continucd)
~~
Issuan..c of any yr~ding pcrr~it or F.ulldln~~ permft~ ar Crtnr to rPCOrdation af any
final trnct mop or rnrchl m~~~ whichevcr occurs first.
7. That Jedtc~~tEon ~f e~qucstrlan ~~nd hiF.(ng tralls easerx~nts shall be m~de in accardAncP
with the adc~~,tcd Equcstrir~n and Ilikin~~ Trails Element of the M~~helri P~neral Plan
followfn~~ the~ ap~roval of fln~l specific dev~lo~rr,~nt ~l~ms for en~h pnrcel ~~n~1 ~rlor
to Che (ssunnc~ ~f Any r~racitny ~~rr~it or huildin~~ rrrr+it~ or ~rior to rcc~rcl<~tion of
any fin,il t.rt-ct ~~.ip or pirc~~l nk~~~ a,hinc~vc:r occurs first. Satci tr~tis ahall b~
ii7proved in ~icce~rJ.~nce ~~~Ith ~~l~~r~s an~1 sprcif(c.~ti~r,s ~~r f(ie tn thr of~(ce of chc City
C ng 1 nrc r.
~• That thc cwiner(s) of suhJ~c! ~~ra~~crty shal) instal) all traffic si~;n~ls necess(tate~!
by thc G~u~~r f?.~neh Pl,~nnc~' Curuiun(±y unless tr-lir~ r.7ym~rt nf thr tr~fflc Sinn~l
assc:sncnt fcc (Orclinar~a i~~. 3~:'(,; is n~~~~rovc~l by thc Clty Traffic Cn~~inccr.
C~~nstr'uction of cach tr~if(ic. sir;nril ~I,all c~nr~~r.c~ ir; cc~r~~unc.tic~n ~~ith dcvclnpr~ent of
any ~~1(~~ilGCfl~~ IIC,~rby <~~ ~1t.~11`f~llStt .l~~l'(:t(:~: ~`i.rCC~ ~1f1(~ i'alGf'1 $1~~'1~~ Sh~1~) f)t~ O~Cr~ltiVC
prlor to flnti) Irullclin~i ~~n~1 tonin~~ ins{>~ctions uf ,}ny builc+iny, i;ll tr.~ffic sl~n~ls
shall ~~~ inst~~llc~i in r~cc~>rciancc• vith City of Annl,eir s-~rcifications .it l~c,~tlons
sn~cific,,lly ~~i~~~ rovcJ f.~y thc Clcy 7r~~ffic f.nyinccr.
,~. Th.it trash st~ra~~e are,i5 s-,al l l,c rrnvided ir ~iccr~rclnrc~~ ~,rltl~ .i~~~rc~ve,J rl~~ns on ff le
with the c~fficr of che Executlve pircr.tor c~f I'ubl(c ',Ji~rks.
1~. Ti~ii pr(or tc~ any ~rater connections ir•~ Lhr: i,~~ue~ R<~nct~ Pl~inned Cor~unity, the
devclapc~rs of s~ii.l ~~lanncd cnrr~~unfty (K.~ufnan .~nc! Cr~.,ad~ Ir~c, or thcir s,~cccssors~
assi~;ns~ or tr~r,sfarces) sh~~l~ subn(t t~ the l,'tllitlcs Gr.ncr~il Han~i~~er for his revicw
and ~~p~~raval, a nro~nsc:~i pl~~n f~~r thc ~~crea~ic c~~~y~rnt oF wat~r r~,i(n ~xt~~•slon fees.
Said plar~ sh~ll c~nsi~~r ,til land ~vit-~in t!'e Gt~u~r R~rc~, Plannc~! Community includin~)
ppen SG>~7CC.
11, That fi re hycir~ints s!~~~1 1 bc instil lr,d ~ina c'~ar~~ec; as rr~~ui r« ~~nd d~tcr~~lned to be
necessary by thr~ Chi~f of t!~c f i r~• Oep.~rtr~ent n~ior t~~ c~,rr~encer~ent ~f structuril
f ranln<~,
i2, That al l re:~ui rerHents of
Ordcr f~a, 7f,-'~1 cx~ fi lc i
requt reru~n [s 1 r~c 1 u~i~~ ~!~ut
and uncicr flo~~r openings,
resistive cc~nstruction of
brushland.
irr Zonc h(atherwisc id~n[ificd as Fire Adminlstrativc
thc~ office of thc Flrc Chief) sh311 bc r~t. Such
~~re nc~t llmited t~~ chlmncy sp~ir~ arrnsr.c>rs, protected attic
Llass C or t,ctter roofinca r~~terlal and one hour fire
f~orizon-.ai surf~~c~s locatcd ~•ri[hln ?~^ feet ~f adJacent
13. Tt-at fuPl ~rea4.s shal i be prc,viclc:i ~~s decer~-~ine~~1 to hc• requi re~i hy the Fi ro Chi~f.
1-+. 7ht~t no pub I i c or pri vAtc s trcet graelcs sht~l l excecd 1^:, excr~~t t~y {~rior approv~l of
thc Fire Departr~nt ~~nc! thc En~3incerin~ Ulvision,
1;. That in acc~r~lance vrith the pc~l~ ~~s of thc Flrr Deparirnrnt~ n~tive slopes (as
dfscussc~i in Ch~~~ter 17.~~ "Gra~ln;~ Lxcavatlons ~nd Fi?Is in Nlllsi~ie P,rcas" of thr.
Anahrtr~ Muriici~al Codc) I~:~cate~f adJr~cent to ntti~ly c~rsstrutted hornr_s shall he
hycirosecded with a lc~w fucl cor,~ustible serd mix, Such slnpes shall be s~rinE•.lerec'
and wc~~ed as reyui red tc~ es tat, ! i sh 1~0 fcr.. t scparat i on of f l~~mrwb le veget ~t lon f rom
any s t ruct urc .
1G. 7h~t subjeet prc~erty sii~ll be scrvcd 5y underc~round utllities,
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MItIUTCS~ ANAIICIM CIIY PLl11lNIP~G CQMNISSI~~N~ SEPTf:'!aCR 2~-. 1~7`1 ~`?"~43
RCGLl1SSIFICl1TION N0, 71 ~~ ~cont~nued)
17. That dralnagc of saiJ property sli~~ll bc dls~o~.eci of tn a manncr satlsfactory to the
Gity Englneer. if~ In thc prepo~atlon of the sitc~ sufficlent gr~~dinn is requlred to
necessitate a ~r~~ding ;,er~it, na worl. or~ ;r~dlnn will hw pei'~>>ttted between Octobrr
l~th and Apri 1 i~tl~ unl~ss al l rrnul reci off-si t~ clrain.~ge f~Gl l it(~s havr !~ecn
Installcd and arc op~r~tlvc. Positt~m assuranc.r sh,~ll he provided thc City that such~
drair-o~~e facl li ties wi i l he eon~l~~tcd ~rlor t~ ~ctoher' 1~;[h. ':eccssary ric~ht-of-way
for off-sitc clr.~in~~~~C facil~tlc~ Sha11 hr. ~c~fic.~tc•c5 to ti~r.. CSt;~ ~r the City CouncO
shal) h~~vc ini tlated eonJermntlon proccccli~~c~5 th~r~fc~r (tf~e custs ~~f ~.~hicti shnl l be
burne by the d~velo~er) nrior to the cor~rcncement ~,f c~r~~~ii nc~ o~~cratlans. The requ( re~1
dralnac~e facilitir.s sholl bc of a size and ty~c s~ifficicrt to carry runoff watcrs
or(r,in~tinq from I~i~~hcr pro{~erti~s Lhrnu~h sni~1 pro~crty to ultim<~t~ dispos~l as
a~proved by thc Ct ty Fny1 n~cr. Sai d dr~ii n~ ,c f•~ci 1 i t irs ~.h:?1 1 ht thc f i rst i tem of
c;onstruttion an~1 sh~~ll '~c cor~~lrt~rl an~ hc functi~n.~l throu~~F~c~ut thc tr~ct anc! from
t1~f, da~nstrcim hound~ry of thc ~~rnnerCy to Chc ultir~ate polnt r;f ~il5pasa) prlor to thc
issuanee of any fin~~l t,~.iildin~~ inspeccions r>r occu~~ncy ~errnics. Draina~~e district
rein~burscr~cnt a~rcerx:nts r~~~y hc r•~~~ie ~~v~~tl~~ble to lhc ~.fcvclop~rs ~f said ~~rop~rty upon
thci r requcs t.
lu. Th~t tl~c c~vmcr(s) of ,u'.~.jci.t ~~~c>PCrty shall n~~y t~ thr C( ty of Anahcim the ~pproprl~~te
p~r4; and reereati,>~~ in^lieu fee.~ n5 r1!~t~rr^1r,ec: to i~e inc~-'~~c>rinte hy the Ctty Council~
S al ~1 fees to bc p~~i d at the t I^~~' l~~ i 1 c11 n~~ F~etrr,i ts are I SS~~~1.
1~. That all priv~t.e street:~ shall ',>c ~Jevc~le~t~e~i in ac.cordan~r with th~~ City c~f Anahelm's
stand.~rds for ;~riv.itc str~cts.
20, That priur to arprovol ~` ~~ f(nal trar_t ~~F~ ~~r to thc issuancc of buildinc; permits~
Covr.nc+nts~ Conditions and rr..,trictir~n; shall ~~c subr~itte~i to .~n=! .ipProved by ihe C1iy
At[~rncy~ s Of f i cc ~nd thc Ci [y L~~~+n~~~•r; ar.d that the ~~pprove~' covcnants ~ condi ttons
and restrictic~ns sl»I1 bc rcc~~r~c;!. Sai~f c~vrnar~cs~ c.onditlons ~~~,d res~triet+ons sh.~11
include orovision for pc~rt~~nent ~~•~i~~ten~nce of i~~y w^~n oc~~n spac~ Areas.
1.1, That pric~r tu the lrtrac'uctlon of ihe flr~t or~iinance t~ estobllsh zanlr~q ~n any
pareei(s) excc~tfn~; c~~~`Y'K'rc,ial pirc,~.~ls within tlse ~aucr R.~nch Pl~inned Cor~unity~ a
socclfic r,ublic facllitics E,lan, lnciuciin~ sucf~ ir~nlcrrntatlo~ ~,m,r~ms as ~~y be
approvc~! by thc C1 ty Counci 1~ sh~-+11 bc rruvic+ed by t~,< <'•~'~~~d~'~{iss(~nsihor~nti re
P1~'~nned Cor~riu~l'_y ~Kaufr~ar. ~ind E~r~o,f. ~nc. or their succe~s~nr5~ ] ~
transferecs) . Thc s~:<<c.i fic: plan stial l inc:luc:c, hu; nc~t b~_ 1 imicc~l to~ a Jlscussion
and evaluatl~ of Che f~llc~v~inc~:
a, Identificatlon o` ~li thc ~ut;lic facilitics prn~usc~i for thc arc,3 includ(nq~ hut
not lir,ited t~~ ;!u~~lic Streets, l,indsc:+;,ed ne~':fa~~s .,nd par'Fwr~ys; public parks and
o{?cn °,s~aces; ~~iice and fire facilixies; libr:~ries; equestrian anc~ IifF.i~y trails;
bi~yclc lancs. r..lectric ;~tll+tlcs sueh as su"tit~liln~5~ tran5r~i,sion 1(ncs, and
strect linhting; anci ~K•~tcr utllitics suct~ ~~s tra~sr~~ssi~n mains and re~servairs.
!,. Ultirnate cl~v^lo4'mrnt c~~P~~icies of the public facitities for the area.
G. Land praposed to be. reservrd for p~,'.: 1 i c f,~c i 1 1 ty nurnosr_s .
d. Cosc to thc~ City of An~~heim for all {~ublic fACilit~cs.
~:. Alignnent, phasin~ a~d boncling for all riyht~af'waY fc~r all Scenic expressways
and arLeri.~sl F,lr}h~~uys includin~ equ~:s•riar. ~nd h(4.in<, trails ~~nd h(cycle ',anes;
storr~ dr~tns; utillty ~-asemrnts ~nd athcr publ~c f,-r_iliCic~s.
f. Specific ~ans of financing the lnstallatinn, construction~ a~u nai~tenance of
all pu`~lic facilitics; suc:h rcans r~ay intludc~ but are not llnite~l tc~,
reirrt~urse:wnt dlstric4s~ assrss~~~~er~t districts~ in-licu fecs~ establishr~ent of a
mas ter '~omeawners ass~~c 1 atl on ~ etc. ; provt ~ed that ihe speci f i c r~eans for each
publi c faci 11 ty shal t t~Q aPProv~d by the Ci ty .~f Anahcim.
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MtNUTCS, l1FIAHEIM CITY Pl.llii+IING COMMIS510~1~ SEPTCNDER 2~~, 1~79 7~-7~+G
RECLASSIFICATIOM I10. 77-73-G4 (cont(nucd)
22. ihat subject property sliall b~e <I~~vclopeci substt~ntially (n ~ccord~~nce ~aitl~ tl~e Bauer
Ranch General Pl~n of ~Jev~lopmcnt on file with th~ Lity ~f Anahelm and markcd Revis(on
fJo. ?. c~f Exl~iGi t t~o. 1; provi~~e~i~ ha~cver, th~t th~~ tc~tal cf~yel l iny unlt count shall
nc~t cxcaeJ ~"1~~ altFiouyh~ t~ar~sfer of units bet~~ecn land usc arc~~s m~~y h~~ arpraved by
the Planniny Commission fc~llcn~riny subr~iLtal ~~f rrecise pl~ns far such tr.~nsfer. as
discuss~d In the prece~lln~~ Cunclitlon flc~. 3.
23. No ordinanc;c recl.~ssifyln~~ any porti~n of tl~e ~~ropcrty dcslqnated cm the 7c~nin~~
Elcrne~nt of thc Gaucr Rancl, Gcncrt~l Plan of Devcl~~irmnt (Revision 1Io, ') as Are~s 1a,
3D and Lhc portinn c~f Area ;~ lyin~~ het~•~ecn Areas 1L~ and 3D sh~~ll hc intrc>duecd untll
such tlr.,c: ~15 a fr~isil,ility stucly f~r ~;c~mm~rcial drvclonmc~c `~~,s hcen cor~~IctPd by thc
City Pl~~nnin~~ Uc.part~~c,~~~t ar~i tl~c a~~x~u~~t <~n~1 rr.t~n[ of any acfc!(ti~~nal s(.c for
commercial devei~~rrnt withir~ s,~l~' area~ ~~as t>er.n ~ietr.rmin~cJ ancl a~~~rcived by the Ctty
Councll. 1n thc cvcr~t .~ny ;~~~rtion uf sF~iJ cnna,r..rcial sltc fall, ~iithin [hc abov~
spceifled r.rca or orcas. thc ~1c.vcloG~~r ~,I,al t submi t~n a~~cnr'.rncnt to [he General i'lan
uf Developrx~nt ~ncf any other a~~~~lications necr.ssary t~ rrc.lassify thc dest~tinated site
f~~r cc>mu~crcial ~l~~vclopr~icnt c~nsislc•nt wi[f, Lhtr a~provccl fc~~sihllit:y stuc~y.
2h. F'ric~r tu thc intrc~~uction of ~n <,rJir~,~ncc r~~z~~nin~~ ,~ny ~~~rt1~~~~ ~f s~~t.~jcct ~>ropcrty~
Condltlun Nos. 1~ 2, -+.~, 1~c~ ?.1 an~; .'.3, ~~'~ov~~ rxntion~J~ s~~all !~c comnlctcd.
2;. Prlor to L~~N issu~ince o` a~3radinc~ perr~it on ~~ny Sp~~ific parcel ,.~ parcels ~•~jt! in the
Planne~l Co~~r~unity~ Conditic~n Ilos. l~b. !,~ r a~~~! 7, ahove rrnti;~ne~i~ shall bc can~pleted.
2C, ThaL Condltic~n Ncs. ~~ 1~ 1~ ~~~ ~~~r ~bovr manti~,ned~ shall !~~ c.omplicd wit`~ ;~rior to
t'rie tin~e th.~t .3 l,ui!.iin~ peri~~it is ISSUeeI ar c~rior to rec~~rd~~tion c~~ a final tr~ct
map~ which~vi~r or.curs fi rst~ or sucl furthcr tirK as thc Planr~in~~ Cornnission maY
grt~nt.
2). That Coi~dition Ilos. ,. `'~ 1:, 1;, 1:,- 1~. 17~ 1'? and "1Z. abovc r~nticm~,c1, shall be
e~m~lie~1 with ~~rior t<> fin~l f,ui~~iinc~ ~~nc'. t.onirig ins-~cr.tions.
ADJOUR~lMEt~T Thcrc being no further business. Conmissio~er Tofar offe.red s r.~otion~
secon~led by Co~r+i;sioner Fry and MQTIOi~ CAP,RIED~ that the meetinG be
odjournecf.
ihc snec.ting was adjourne~i at (~:5~ ~•m•
Respectfully submitted~
~I~M. ~ %~I~i~
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E:dith L. Narris, Secretary
Anahcim Clty Plannin4 Cortxnissiv~
ELH :hm
9/24/79