Minutes-PC 1980/12/15~. ,;
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Civic Center
Anahelm, Califorhla
December 15, 19t30
REGULAR
ME~TING
PRESENT
AUSENT.
itEGULAft MEETING QF TNE ANAHEIM i.ITY PLANNING COMMISSION
- The regular meeti~g of the Anaheim Ctty Planning Commiasion was
celled to order by Chal~man Tolar at 1s3~ p.m.~ D~cenber ly~ 1980
tn the Council Ch~mber~ a quorum being present.
- Chairman Tolar
Comml ss loners : Barnes ~ i,ouas ~~ushc+re ~ Fry ~~;) ng
• Commissioner: tie~bat
AL.SO PRESENT - R,on~ld Thompson
Annika Santalehti
Jsck white
Jey Ti tus
Shtrley Meredith
Pam Kats~r
Oean Shcrer
Edtth Narris
Plannfng Olrecf r
Assistent Dir~ ~r f~r Zo,~ing
Assistant City ~~ttorney
Office Enqineer
Traffic Engtneering Assistant
Nousing and Net~hborhood Pres~rvotion
As•istant Ptanner
Plnnnin~; Commisston Secr~;ary
PLEDGE OF - Thc Pled~e of Allegiance to the Flag wes lcd by Commissloner B~sho~e.
AILEGIANCE
ITEM N0. lt EIR NEGATiVE ~ECLARATION~ WAIVER OF CODE RE UIREMENT AND CONOITIOHAI USE
R~H~T NO Z1~5i
PUdLIC HEARII~G. OwNERS: R. H. AND TNEODORA R. SIEGELE~ 5Q0 South Atchison Street~
Anahetm~ CA ~280y. AGC.NT: E. E. ROUNDS, I,ERQY D. OWEN COMPANV~ 50~ 5outh Main
Strset. O~a~ge, CA q2Gf,p. Property describad as a rectengula~ly-shaped parcel of
lend conststing of a~roxlmately b.5 s~sre. located on the northwest corner of South
Street and Rose Street, 91~ East South Street. Present classificatlan Ml
(INDUSTRIAL~ I.IMITEO) ZON~.
CONUITIONAL '~SE PERMIT REQUEST: TO PERMIT AN AUTOMQ8ILE REPAIR FACILITY IN THE NL
ZONE uITN W AIVERS OF (m) MINIMUM LANDSCNPED SETBACK Al10 (b) REQUIREQ SITE SCREENiHG.
Subj~ct pe~tition was conClnued fron- the mectings of November 3 and 17. 1g8d at the
request of the petittoncr.
it was noted the petitioner has rec••~ested that subJect petitio~ br withdraw~.
ACTION: Com~ntssioner King ofifered a rrotlon~ scconded by Co~wnission~r Fry and MOTIOtJ
~ft~p (Commlssioner Herbst betng absent). that Petitian for Condtt'.onal Use Permit
~bo. 2125 be wtth6rewn ac the ~equest of the petitia~er.
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MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PLANNIHG CONMISSION, DECEMBER ty. 1~8Q 80-745
ITEM N0. 2: ENVIRpNHENTAL IMPACT REPO~'T N0. 113 ~PQEVIQUSLY APPRAVEDL WAIVER OF
'~'6'~'1~T~EM E"ai~i f Aa"~'i + .'~ - - -•
PUDLI C IIEARING. ONNERS: M. J. BROCl; AND SONS, IN(.. ~ G767 Forest Lawn ~rivn~ Los
Angeles~ CA 90~68 and T11E CIIURCH Of JESUS CIiRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS~ REAI ESTATE
DIVISIQ~~~ ~0 East Templn~ Salt Lake City~ Utah 04150. AfENTS: M. J. BAOCK AND SONS~
i':C.~ iG9~ Greonbriar, Sulto 22~i~ Brea, CA g2621. Property descrlbed as an
irregularly-shaped pa~ce) of lartd consisting of approximetely 19.3 acres~ heving
app mximate frantegea of 30~ feet on the north side of Falmouth Avenue and 9~A feet
on the south side oF Coronet Avenue. having e nu~xlmum depth of approximately 1500
feex anci betng located approximately Gy~ fe@t west of the centerllne of Romneya
Ortve. Property prese~tly classified RS-A-4;~Of1Q (RE510ENTIAL/AGRICUITURAL) ZONE.
CONDITIONAL USE PERM11' REQUEST: TO PERMIT A 126-UNIT DE'ACHED CANDOMINIUM COMPLEX
WITH WAIVERS OF; (a) MAXIMUM STRUCTURAL HEIGHT AND (b) MINIMUM LNNUSCAPED SETBACK.
SubJect petitlon waa cont(nued from the meettng ~f November 1y, 19An ~t thc~ ~equest
af the pctiti~ner.
It was nated that the petitioner has requested that sub)ect petitlon be continued to
the January 12~ 1~30~ m~ettng in vrder for a tentative map to b~ hea~d conJunctively.
ACTIQN: Commiss(oner King off~~c~ a motlon~ seconded by Commlsstoner Fry and MOTION
tA D(Commissloner Herbst being abscnt) ~ tt~et thc ~neheim City Planning CarMnisston
does hereby grant continua~ce ~f the aforementionec! item to the meeting of January
12~ 1981~ at the request of t,~c pctlt~onc~.
ITE~` N~O~~: EIR N~GATIVE DrGLARl1T1011. RECLASSIFICATIA!~ N0. Q(1•81-17 AFID VARIA~ICE N0.
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PUDLIC i;k~RIP~G. 01JNER5: BILL J. NICKEI~ ET AL~ 8151 Ketella Avenue. Stanton~ CA
90Gn0. Pro,~erty described as A rectan~ularly-shaped parcel oP land constsCtng of
approximate~y 0.4 acre. located at 1217 5outh liutwood Street. Property pres~ntly
classlfied AS•A-43~000 (REStOENTIAI/AGRiCULTURAI) ZOtlE.
RECLASS I FI CA' t ON REf~uEST : RM-12n0
VAiiIANCE RCQU~'ST: HAIVERS OF: (a) MINihUM LOT AREA PER DNELLING UNIT~ (bj M.4XIMUM
STRUCTURAL Ntl~"T. (c) Mi111MUM RECREATIO~IIIL•LEISURE AR~A~ AND (d) M~NINUM DISTANCE
~ETWEEN BUILDtNGS r~,^POSEU TO CONSTRUCT A 16-UNtT APARTMENT COMPLEX.
Subject pe[ition was cantinued from the n+eeting of Noven+brr 17. 198~ at tt~e request
of thC pttittoner.
There wes one person indicating hcr presence tn oppositton to subJect request, and
although the steff report was not riad~ it is ref~rred to and madc a pert of the
mtnutes.
Bill Nickel~ ewner~ explainad r~vised plans were submttted roduci~ig Che number of
units to 14~ and increasing the s~xe of the units providing additional two•bedroom
untts. He stated h~ still foels [his is a good proJect.
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MINUTES, ANANEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. nECEMBER 15~ 19~ 80-746
Rits Rayes, 1927 Chateau~ statad sl~e is st111 concerned ~bout the density tn the
entire arca becsuse of the exlsting traffic and psrking problems. She reed n portton
af the RM-12~~ zoning ordinance which explsined tho pu~po~e of thc zone and notnd the
verlance procodurc is to prevent discrtminetion •nd is not to g~~nt specls)
prtvilagas end noted tha property next door to the north Is also prapoaed for simtler
development a~d thet there ls enother property ac~oss the street whtch cauld be
similarlly devnlaped and Trident Junior Hiqh School is availeble for development.
Sh~ qu~ationed the net density es indiceted tn the statf report of thc ortqinal
r~~ upo4al .
~ean Sher~r~ Asalstant Plannar~ stated the November 17th staff repart was celculated
on tha g ross area, rt~ther tha~ thc net aree, end the December 15th st+~ff r~p~rt ts
correct.
Ms. Reyes asked if the recreattonal srea is still propoaed fur the ge~ege roof. Dean
Sherar explained it is still in that lacetion~ but ht+s been enlarged. Ms. Rcyes
stated since the~e wtll be Mo-badroom units~ they wil) probebly be occupied by
f~mtlies and ~,t~e did not think the grrage ruof recreatiQn ar~~f ~rQducedc thetnumber~of
fami ly recre+,t~on. She felt evon tP~ough the nur-~er of units -
people living the~c wlll be Increased.
Ma. Reyes stated she is concerned beceuse the Cortmtsslon cannot deny e similar
request In the futurt end there ara defl~Itely rarking problems tn the arca. pointing
out other developers in the ~rea have I~ed to tnstall gates ~nd issue cards to
tenants. She referred to a church dcvel~ped In the srea whicr~ was grdnted a speclal
privlieg~ and constructed without ;~n~n~~~~Gallaw this requast~.te p~rki~g. She
stated she felt it would be poo p 9
Mr. Nickei statcd epartments are not bGf~r theearea~anddmak.eeltuSCanef ut~fi~sncielly
that he is trYing to meke a good project
for him.
THE PUBLIC NEARING 11AS CLOSED.
Commissioners King and Bushore stated they ~o~id not lustify the herdships.
Mr. Nickel statcd the hardship is on the property bccause it ts located next to a day
care center; that subJect p~operty and the single-famlly d.r11fn9 to the south are
suttable for this Cypr development '~eceuse of the commerclal and multi-fsmliy
developments in the area; and thst he proposns t~ bulid the same typa bullding for
the area. He stated he did not think ht should be penalized becausc of the existing
traffic in t-~e erea and bect+use the property does not have a m~+)or freeway through
it.
Ghatrman Tolar stated the Commtsslon has granted simllar watvers. snd the code
relates to a different tifestyle; th~t apartments are nteded i~ this citr and state
and obviously are nat beinq canstructed~ b~ ~ he is not in favor of simply ignoring
the extsting cod~as. Nowever~ h~e stated he did not think this revised project would
cause some of the adverse effacts that couid be caused by some other type
development; that Ball Road and Nutr+ood are v~ ry busy, but hn did not thi~k ty untts
next tc+ a day car~ center would create that much m~re of a problem and r+tll bnswer
most of the cnnce~ns of apartu+ent development; end that this Commtssion has approved
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proJectt with more v~rlances th~n ~-~Is en the b+~sts o' the unusua) sht~p~~ stze ar
topogrephy af the la~d. 11e stet~0 he felt thts ~ioul ' be a comprttble use.
Commisstoner King ~nd Commissioner Bushore stAted they favor the praJact but still
could not Justify tl,e requested harclshlp,
Chatrr.~sn Tolar st~ted the Commis~i~n h~ns granted many simi lar v+~ivers.
Cpnmisstone~ Qarnos stited the wa(ver fo~ the mtnlmum lot err~a is minlmel; thac the
waiver of maximum structurAl helghk h,.<, d hardst~l~; the wn~ver of minimum
recreatl~nal~-leisure~ arc~i has bcen deleted; and tf~c wa(v~- of minimum distanca
betwaen bulldings is an interlor problem. She stated she felt the only real concern
is the minimun lot area~ but since state low encaurac~es t~~e city t~ try to provide
apartments and lcrw cost u~its, that the herdship c~uld pronably be Justtfled on that
basts.
ACTION: Commissiancr l~arnes offered a motian~ seconded by Commissioner iCing ond
~~N CARRIED ((.~~rtm(ssioner Herbst belnq absent). t~. t tho Anaholm Lity Planning
Commtssion f~ns revi ~wed the proposel to rec ~ issi fy s:,b}ett property fror~ thm RS-A-
43~00(1 (Resldential/Ayricultural) z~ne to ti~c RN•11~~ (aesidentlal~ Multlple-Family)
zone to permit a 14-unit apartrta~nt compicx with r+aivers of mtnlmum lot srea per
dwelltng unit~ maximum structural hnt~t~t and mi~imum distance between buildtngs on a
rectanyulariy-shaped parcel of land conststing of a~proximatnly 115 feet on the west
side of NutwooJ Strcet~ tiaving a rt-eximum depth o~ apt~raximetely 17~ feet, bcing
located approxtmately 2y0 feet sauth ~f the centerline of Ball Road; and does herQby
approve the Negative neclaraclon from thr. requlrPme~t to prcparc an anvtronr~ental
impect report on thc basis that thcrc wouid be no sianific~+nt indivldual or
cumuletlve adverse anvironmental tmpacC due to tf~e epprova) uf thts Negatlve
Declaration since the Anehelm Generrl Plen designaces the subJect propcrty for medium
density land us~es cormiens~rate wttl~ the pro~osal; t~at na sens(tlve envtronmental
impatts are involvEd in the proposAl; that the Initial Studv subm(ttcd by thc
petltloner lndtcates no sfgnificant irtdividual o~ cumulative adverse envl~enmental
trtq~acts; and that th~ Nec~atlve Declara~'lon substantiattny the foregoing findinga Is
on f(le in tl~e City of A~Ahelm Planning Department.
Commtsstuner 3ar~es offersd Resolution Na. PCB~-226 and movcd for its passage and
adoption that ~the Anaheim City Planning Commissia~ docs hercby grant Reciasslfi~- ~on
No. IIO-ai-17, subJect to Int~rdepartment~l Committce recoi+w~endations.
On roll call, the fore:,olnr, resolution was pBSSed by ti,e ~ollvwtng vote:
AYES: COMMISSiONEaS: DARNES~ BOUAS. BUSNORE, FRY~ KING, TOLAR
NOES : COMMI SS I Ot~ERS : NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: lIERDST
Commissioner Barncs offered Fte lution No. PCBQ-227~ in pArt, end movcd for ics
passage and adoptton that th~ Anaheim City P1a~ning Commlssian does hereby gr~nt
Vari~nce Na. ;17~ on the basis chat v+aiver ~e) is minlma! and watvers (b) and (d) on
the basis that denia! would deprive subJect p~aperty of privilegcs enJoyed by other
prope~tles in the same zone and viclnity and de~r~t~g waivGr (c) on thc basis thac the
nced for sA(ci waiver was delnted by r~evfsed plAns and ~uh;ect to Interdepartmer.*al
Committee recommcndet~ans.
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY ~LANNING COMNISSION~ DE~t~!BER 15~ 1980 80•7W8
On ~oll ca11~ the foregotng resolution w~s passed by the followtng votes
AYES; COMMISSiQt7ERS: DARNES~ BOUAS~ BUSf10RE~ FRY~ KINC~ TQIAR
NOESs COMMISSIqt~ERS: NONC
A85f..NT: COMMI SS I~NEaS ; MERdST
Jack Nhite~ Assistant City Attorney~ presented rhe written right to app~al the
Plennfng f,-~mtsslon's deciaton within 2? days to the City Council.
ITEM N0. 4: EIR NEGATIVE DEGLARATI011 RECLASSIFICATION N0. 8f1-81-1 WAIVER OF CODE
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PUaLIC HEARIt~G. OWNERS: MARY 5. NELSOt~, ApMIt~157RAT4R FOR IDA M. RANN(ri/ ESTATE~ c/o
WEtNFELU t MIXON. ATTORN~VS AT LAW, 6A1 North Parkcenter Drive, Suitc 203~ Santa Ana~
C~~ 92701 . AGEN7: L I NbRORG-DA11L I NVESTORS ~ 172f1 Pac i f i c Coast N) c~hw~~y ~ 11unt i ngton
Bea~,l~~ CA 9Zf~~~a. Property ~iescribed as an Irreguldrly-shaped narcel of iand
consfsting of appraximt,tely 12.3 acres located at thr. gouthwes; corn~r of C~erritos
Avanue a~rl Euclid Street~ having epproxtmate front~ges af ~30 fect on the 3outh sid~
of Cerritos Avenue~ and 4?.5 fect o~ the wc:st sidc of Euciid Street. Ptoperty
presently classif;~d RS-A-4~,~0~ (RESIDENTIAL/AGRICUITURAL) ZOPIE.
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CONDITIONAI USE PERMIT RE^~UEST: TO PEt~MIT N 22J-UNtT C~ '~.,MINIU~; COMPLEX (2y;,
affordablel ,IITiI WAIVERS OF; (a) MINIMUFt I.OT AREA PER OWELLINf, UN17~ (b) MAXIMUM
STRUCTUf~AI HEIGHT~ (c) MINIMUM F~OOR ARE^~ (d) MINIMUM RECREATIONAL•LEISt)RE AREA AND
(e~ MINIMU~1 NUMBER ANO TYPE OF PAaKI~IG SPACES.
TENTATIVE MAP REQUEST: TO ESTABLISM A 5~L07~ 220•UNIT C4NGJMINIUM SUBDIVISION (25b
affordeble) .
Subject petition wAS continued from the meett~g of December 1~ 1980 et th~ quest of
tha petltiane~.
1'hert wer~e ttiree pers~ns indicating thelr presencr, in opposltion to subJect request.
and alth~ugh the staff rcpart was nof read, tt is referred to and made e part of th~
mi~utes.
Bri~n Norkaitis. agcnt~ William Lyon t:ompany, stated he has reviewed staff's
condiCions and they are ac~aptable; that tt~ey have msde s concentrated effort to
contact the reside:~is to thp s~uth ana have revlewed fhe plans with mast of them and
they seemrd satisfEed Niih the proposal. H~ stated the netghbors were conce~ned
about the affordal.'.e aspects of the p~o)ect~ but wcre sattsPted after thr exnlanAtion
Lhat crnly 2y$ of the 220 unics proposed would be cissslfled as affordable as defined
by the C.ty cf A~ahelm using Hl guideline.
Mr. N- .attis exulalned the or~Ject's street loop system e~ebied them to maintain an
adoq~..~te distance from existing aS•7?~0 zoning to the ~outh. He pointed out the
tnteriar parking wlth garages close to untts~ tt~e lsndsc~e ~ berms~ etc. He stated
there are three dtfferent fic~or plens canststing of r«ro and th~ae-bedroom townhouse
units wteh basic 1lving quarters downstairs; that :~~e main access is off Euclid; and
that basicaily from ~_he reer, the units will appear to be one-scory single-Family
res i dences .
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MiNU~ES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ DEC6M8ER 15, 1980 80-749
Rlte Reyes~ ig27 u~st Chate++u, asksd why a nngative cleclaratl~n wes recommended for a
pro)ect this large rather than an envtronmantal irnpact report and ~eferred to
Conditi~nal Usa Permlt No. 214~ wherein a full report was requi~ed for a 126-unit
condominl~xn compleron Romneya Drive.
Jack White~ Assistant City Attarnay~ explai~ed the environment~l process ts pursuant
to th~ State Envira~mrntal puality Act and guldelines adopted by the Ctty of Aneheim;
ond th~t the flrat step ts a two-page cnvlronmentel asaessment submitt~cl by the
petitioner of any possible envi~onrr~ ntal Ir-~bcts; then the E~vironn+ental Revtew
Cammi ttees~ compose~d of representsct ves oF seve~al departrt+ents ~ reviews the ~ro.ject
and determines whether or n~t the p~o.ject c.c~uld conceivably h~ve adversc impacts; and
if tt ia felt~ as a result of that Initl~l assessn+ent~ thrt the proJect wouid not
rcasonably have an adv~~~ ' ~t on the envlronment~ a nag~tive declsracion Is
prepared and postcd at ~~n days befor~e the hearing. tle stated the uttlm~te
declsfon is made by the ~~ in;,~ Commisslon or City Council ancf thts woula b~ the
proper time to voice any obje~tlon.
Chairman Tolar stated an environmental impect rcport ~- ala atth the flo~a~ fauna,
topo9rapl~y~ traffic, etc. of the proJcct area end In many ca~es such as this~ the
Commission cioes ~ot feel a~~11 repc~rt is rcqulred and only certain srees of conce~n
are discusscd.
Ms. Rnyes statcd thcy dc~ not liave a homeowne~'s assoctation and maybe they should
because Anaheim N111- has them and there are no affordable houses betng bullt there;
that she (s not objecCing to conclc~m.lniums~ but to the denslty ~nd parktng. She
referred ta the 25~ affordable housing requlren~nt and a~tked if it ts true the Ctty
of Anaheim wtll loose their grant monics from the fe~e~al governne~t tf affordable
hous(ny Is not provided. She felt there are ways of providing efPordeble housing~
other than tenants.
Ms. Reyes ytated she has lived on Wes; Avenue 23 Yeers and does not like seeing
single-family residcnccs being removed ta rt+eke room for apart~nents; that she was not
sure wheCher other apartments (n the area meet codn requtren~nts }or ps~king, but all
a~partment pro}ects she I~as seen doas have parking probiens and pointed out a single-
family residence is requtred to have flve pa~king spaces.
She pointed out this proJect request is for a 43$ density bonus Ni~h 25~ affordable
units; and that the pArkiig sp~ces are 271 short accarding to code and code does not
require adequate space; and that there (s no ~arking eliowed on Ce~ritos durtng
s choo 1 hou rs .
Anrtike Sant ahti, Assistant Dlrector for Zo~tng~ explatned th~ states law mandates a
25$ density bonus or such other bonuses rs the ctty may d~em appropriate~ so the 25$
denslty may nc>t be what the Gity accepts in the end and ts Just one of the
possibilitles. She stated all develope~s have always requ~st*d tt~e density bonus
specificaliy but could ask for another kind of bonus whtch couid be ecceptable to the
clty.
Dean 5herer, Assist++nt ~'lanner~ ~xplalned in response to Ms. Reyes' question that an
envi~onmen~al impact report was ~equtred for the entire Anaheim Shares Planned
Communlty and the Lommisslon will hear Candittonsl Use Permit Na. 2{43 which is on a
po~tion of that area.
Sharon Elie~rs, 1407 Nutwood, stated she agrees with everything Ms. R~yes ~a~d; that
C~r~itos floads ~11 the wsy ac~oss the street everytime tt rains au~d she felt thatr
shauld be revicwed very cermfully. She stated it is almast impossible to get In and
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING :OMMISSION~ DECEHBER 15~ 198~ 80•750
out of the high schnol ~nd ~he understands the e~trance to the htgh schoo) perking
lot and the entrance to tl~ls pro,J ct will be ex.;ctly opposite each other.
Cl~rirmen Toler stated the City Traffic Engineer recomnends to the Commiaslon thet
streots always be allgned.
Ms. Elians felt a signal should b~ i.~stalled bec~use at 8:00 a.m. the school traffic
ts heovy.
Sh~ axplAlned there is discusston ~eg~rding closing K~ey School bec+~usa of l~ck of
enrollme~t and Trident ~unior Nigh School has been closed so if thc-e sre Junlor high
achoo) aged chlldren tn thts proJect~ th~v would attend 8~11 and ti~ll is overcrowded;
and that James Madis~n Elementery 5choo) fa not fuil, but this woui: put a load on
the schnol.
She stated she is not against the nro,;ect but wanCs these concerns revlewed ve ry
cerefully. gH~ stated thcre n~c acctdents on Ccr~tt~s ~nd Nutwood ten ttmes a week
and felt thcre should be some way to control the tre~Fflc f{~y.
Another ~ers~n prosent In the audlence indtcate~d her conc~rns were the sbme as thost
voiced.
Mr. Norkeitts stated tha project was redesic~ned ta mc~ve the pcx~l to the ir~tde of the
p~oJect because of the ccr.~er. Ne dld not have a,~v conr+~nts to n-ake relating to
parking and traffic.
TIiE PUE3LIC HEARItdG WAS CLOSED.
Chairman Tolar statNd he agrees West M ahetm is an outstrnding area~ but realtty
dtctatea tt~at lifestyles have cl~ang~d end ~ lat less square footage ts required for
living araas and that is bor~,e out by the fact that the schnols ere closing due to
iack of enrollment becausc households do not hev~ as many peapie tn them toda~; that
whe.n the RM-3000 cc+de for condominiums was orlg!n~lly wrttten three years ac ,
itving areas were required to be a gre~t d~al larg,er than they need to b' today; that
the city will gain some beneflts from the developrt~nt of thts property; and thet he
is aware of the floading and traffic prabl~ms, but felt this developrttnt wtll cause
Imp~ovements tn ~elattonship to thosa problems.
Jay Titus, Office Engi~~eer, explained there is an extstinq undersized ~torm drsin on
Cerritos, wec~ of this property~ and cannot accept ~deiitional~aater; that the nearest
drain on Euclid to the south is about 3/4 of a mile uwsy and there is a proposed
drain in th~ Master Plan of Storm O~ains far a larger pTpe. (102" i~ diameter) to be
put (n Euclld, but this is probably beyond the res~onsibilPty af this development.
He stated after much discussion on drsinage Qroblanrs in theC a~ea, i~ wa~s recanmanded
that thts d~veloper construct ~ storm drain laterat in Eucltd which wi11 be a dry
line at this time until the ultimate faclli[y is constructed in Euctid; and then ft
wili takt all of the storm water from this developmont back to Euclid; hawever. in
the me~+nttne it is not going to inQrove the exfsting situatton. He stated nane of
tho existi~g probtems wiil be corrected with thls development ~nd they w111 not be
corrected untli tl~e master facility is constructed in Euciid. Ha explained the city
tiad a storm d~aln bond issue on thc last ballot which waa passed; and that this
fa~cility was ~ne proposed for co~struction under thet bond tssue~ but i'ropositton 13
prevented the ctty from selling those bonds, and there is ~o other money available tv
build faciltties like this.
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Chai~nK+n Totar askad the impact on the flandinq sltuation tf thls ~~.,Ject t~
co~structed. Mr. Titus ststed the tmpact ts going t~ m~ke thc flaodtng slightly
worse in Cerritos~ but he dIA not think it would be te such a degree thet tt wtt)
make e gr~at deel of difforence at thls ttme; that probably one travel lane and the
pa~king lene would be floodad on Cer~itos and thls proJect moy r~ise the wster leve)
two inches.
Chalrman Tolar explained Corritos would be widened to tw~ ful~ cravel lones tf the
pro.Ject is constructed.
Mr. Titus stated tl~e largest problan- Is caused by water fic~wlnn dawn Cerritos from
e~st of Euclid, crossing Euclld and going on dawn Cerritos; And th~t this pro)ect
will add ~ome to that~ but it will not b~ of such a mnqnitude thet It wtll be
nottceable; thAt when this proJect ;~uts in the strQet Improvements on Carritos~ the
exlsting sltuatton will bc Im~roved and th~re will still be one travei land availeble
during ttmes when the street )s flooded.
Ms. Eliens steted larqe ptpes were rccently put tn CQrritos. She statcd shz did not
kr-ow if thls took: car~ of tha situatiAn and asked who is respansible for that
dralnaye.
Mr. Titus statad the elty put in some asphalt bernn along thbt property~ but he was
not aware af any underyrounJ plpec. Ne statc:d that ~~ea does noC have curb and
gutter at this time and when thfs developrt~cnt ts done~ that situAtlan wtll be
improved with tt~e curb and ~utters.
Chelrman Tolar statcd until the actual 1~2" storm draln pi~e is construtte~l in Euclid
there will be woter at that Intersectton.
Commissioner Barnes as~:ed if the fncilttles are ulttmately planned to take care of
the watcr in Carritos and Euclid ~nd M~. Tttus replled they are ultimately pl~nned~
but the city does not have the money right naw. Ne ~xplatned this cieveloper will put
in a lateral to take the water bac~. to Euclld and ssttmated that would cost aboiit
$SO~Q00 nnd $6U.000.
Chatrrrwri Tolar noted a private canaultant +vas ~ont-acted to review the t~afftc which
was one of the rcasons t!~is wes recommcnded for a negative declaration. He steted he
recognizes ther~ is a probiQm w(th ingress and ~gress, but felt the Improv~nts and
addtng the traffic lane wfll help the trafffc situatlon. Ne was concerned a5out the
inqress and cgress on Euclid opproxlmaCely 4~Q feci from Cerritos end felt it should
be right-turn only er.iting the proJect patnting out that access is not very far from
a left~turn pocket.
Mr. Norkattis stated he shares that concern and will be giad to work with the Traffic
Engineer and have thair traffic c~ns~ltant work wtCh him ta try and mitigete that
problem; and Chat the actually polnt of ingress and egress wrs pre-established to
align with the other street.
Chairman Tolar stated traffic studles have shown it is i~aortant that s;r~~ets align
far safety, but he wa~ concerned about ~reffic going straight across Euclid St~aet.
He asksd the petitioner to sttpuiate to a right turn only or mttigation measures as
appr~vod by the Traffic Engineer. Mr. No~kaitis egre~d.
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MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PIANNING COMMISSION, DECCMBER 15~ 1980 84-752
Commtssionar B~rnc,s st~ted she did not think the Commissian has c.ome to grips with
what they ~re pc~in~ to do ~bout the tremendou~ density bon~~ee~ being reque~ted~ snd
she wat noi sur~ this is what ~a :;r~ted In the cttyt tht~t ~ of these unit~ ere at QO$
of the medle-~ tnccxnn but ret~l i:ing tho kind of monies involved in this pro.ject and
!he kind of denstty bonu~es snd w~iv~ra being ~equested~ she was concerned that the
Commisston is just thrawing sway ou~ codes and glving sway too much on this klnd of
proJact. She was not sur~ the citl~ens wtl) get enough fram this proJect to warrant
A 43~ density bonus.
Chairman Toler egreed ~nd polnted out affordable housinc~ does not rr~~n government-
subsidtzed houstn~; thst the Commission should come to c~rips wit~~ hav fer they are
going to go grantinq thes~ denstty bonuses; that he can deal wttli gran~ing e 2~~
denslty bonua far e 25~ affordebie proJect. ~le agreed the RM-30~~ code was
antiyuated beforo it was completed and needs to be flextble; but that these parking
walvers~ atc. would not be necessary if the developer w~s not asking for auch e big
bonus ~nd th~ density is more tf~an he woulcl like to s~e on thls project.
Ccmmlasioner Barnes ~ompercd thts ProJact to A converslon epproved p~eviously on
Brookhurst for a cotel nurber of units of 22:~ ~nd the percenta~e affordable wes G~?$;
that thls proJGCt is 2?~ units ~nd tt~e perce~~tage Affordable ts 2~$. and neted that
project on Br~okh~urst was ~ conversion And this is A ncw building. She stated ahe
fett thc Commis~ton would be going ovcrboard appravinq this porttcular proJeet.
Mr. Pk~rkaitis stated they did review thls chart prepared by staff and uscd (t as a
reference polnt and pcyintad out other ncw praJects epproved by the planning
Cammission~ one wtth ~i~ affordable units witl~ a density bonus of 68$~ another one
2yZ afforciable witli a E:OZ bonus and he did not feel they have asked for anythl~g that
has rn~t been approved previously.
Commisslone~ Dushore r~ferred to the proJect approved on Lcmon Strect and stated that
property was ve ry uniquely shapcd.
Canmissioner Bernes stated sa~ of the ath~r pro)ects wh~ch were apprave~i were able
to ~rovide more p~rking~ etc., but Lhet she just felt this rcquest for a 43$ ~ensity
bonus is too hiqh.
Commissioner King polnted out the density bonus in this application Is next to the
lowest and Commissioner tiarnes pointcd out the number of affordabie units is next to
tfie lowcst also and this is a much bi~gger project. She felt if more affordable units
were prov!~1ed or a higher perc~ntage of the ~+ffordable units were for a0$ of inediu~,
she would be more Favorable ta+ards this pro~ect.
Cammissioner aushore stated m4st of these proJects ere providtng affordable units for
the 100 to 120$ of inedisn and the real need for housin~ i~ at the 8!1$ ar loa-er of
median.
Chalrman Tolar asked the proJected pric.:s of the ma~ket r~te units and Mr. trorkattis
repliod he would estimate the prtces at S7~~000 to $9~,Q00. Ne ~xplained this
estimate is based on tt~eir reseerch and the actua) prices weuld not be set unttl much
further along o~~ the praJect. He stated the whole project could be looked at as
affordable ~~tth nnv house prices tn Orenge County.
Conrnissioner Bushore asked how it aas dctermined that 25~ would be designated as
affardeble And Mr. Norkaitis explainod that was worked out by Zommunity Housing
Oepartsnent.
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Mfi~~fES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ DECEMBER 15~ 1980 80~753
Pom Katser~ Hausin9 and Nel~hborhood P~osArvetlaR, •:<plel~od 25~ ts the mintmum state
law requlrea; and that the devclopar canes to thc~n and the aftorciabie houstng po~tton
Is worked aut~ then he works with ths Pl~nning ORparl•mcnt on the dsn~ity.
Annika Santala~hti expldlned tha ~eneral Plrn ciestgnetes the area for tow-medtum
density whlch does permlt a nwxtmum ~~3$ dAnslty bonua wtthou~ e Genert~l Plan
Amendment boing processed.
Comml~sioner Bushore stated three Conmissloners would like to sec a 1lttle more
aff~ruabilltv and sug!~ested more untts at the lower cnd of the affordeblitty
~ange.Cammissioner 9arnes noCed tl~e aver~+ge ncrcenta~e of eff~rdable units approved
has been ;t$ on o~her proJects.
Chat rma~~ Tolnr stated thcse affordable unl cs wi 11 scl l tor SG1~!1Q0 ancl e person would
have to earn In cxcess of S2~~OOQ a ycar to qualify.
He stnted if the Commission rcally belleves they arc trying to crcet~ housln9 the
public can affc~rJ, they must ~aok at ~ffo~dabt~ hausing from another standpoint
bcscausa all the c~sts of providing parking~ etc. will be pas~ed on to the buye~s.
CommisstonCr Barnes stat~d she (s not opposed to tl~e density bonus ~nd she has
nothtng agetnst thts projeGx~ but would 1tE:e to sec more effordabie unlts in the 80~
or iower renge a~d would not vate in favor of this proJect as it stends.
Commisstoner Bushore stated there is a neecS to creatc housing and the Commission has
not refused to approvc affordable housing proJects a~d It hes worked with oehcr
devNlopers with greater density which are muct~ mare affordnble; tf~at no one has
questloneu the 4~f ~a~king spaces and the Commtsston probahiy feels the parktnq is
adequate; and that no one has obJected to the two-sto ry units within 15A feet of
single-famlly xo~ing and thes~ are the things that create affordabilitv and he wanted
to be ure the tradenffs are equal.
Chairman Tolar st~ted affordablc in Southern Celifornla or this ma~keting area is
between $70~Q00 and S~rO~OOf1.
Commissioner Barnes statcd she is only interested tn the ~ercentage of affordable
unlts and felt it should bc higher and noted this is ona of the largent projects and
is tied for the second lawest percentag~ of affordable units comparing it again with
the conversio~ proJect on 9rookhurst.
Chalnnan Tolar stated anyone looking fc+r tyis ktnd of condominium lifestyle would
raC`ier live in one af these units. He stated the problem is the oost of the land and
the builder has ta build thts high number of units in order to make a profit.
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MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PLANNING CQMNISSION~ OECEMBER 15~ ig$0 80-754
Conxnissioner Bushore stated he has ~o objectton to the walvers~ but felt wlth this
density thane should be more ~ffordsble units; that there is no herdshtp an the land;
that only 55 units are consldored affordeble and only 5 of those are going to be
offe~ad at 80~ of ths median IncoMa; that young famlilas who redlly ~eed the
affordabla housing a~e in that ranqe or lawer and cannot qualify; and that gover~ment
s Ceps i n when these p rob l ems ~re not so 1 ved wh 1 ch i s wi~y the s tet~e has •! I awed th 1 s
den'ity bonus.
Commisaloner Barnes steted she woulcl bo In favor of thls pro,Ject If the developer
woulc! put 10 mo~~ ~f the units in tho 00$ r~nge or lower.
M~. Norkaltis eskcd if rhe distrfbutlon In the affordable renge Is the bigges L
p rob 1 em.
Commtssio~or Bush~re stited Orange County has ane of the highest per captta incomes
but there are a lot of people wha cfc~ not make 52ct,~f1~1 e year.
Commiss~oner Barncs suggcsted > units bc r~ddcc+ in tha ~1$ or lawer rAnc~e a~d
Commissioner Eiushore suggested 10 addittonal untts nc Q~$ or below the medtan and did
not thtn~ w(th the density bonus requQSted that thet would be too much to as k.
Shirley hkredith. A~sistant Trr~fflc Engineer~ responded to Co~m~issioner Busho re's
question regarciing havinc~ left turns going north on Euclld out of the proJect and
explatned that the strepts have be~sn eltg~ed whicl~ would allow a safe move and the
siy~als should provtdc thc spacing~ but ric~ht turn from a drivewey Is hard to
enforce.
Cammi ss loner Elushore s tated he i s request ( nc~ a med 1 en and added he does not want to
see this proJect b~comN a problem in the futur~; Lhat there Is heAVy tr~ffic the re
now and the developer should take care of the problem.
Chairn~an Tolar skatec! the appllcant has stipulAted to a right turn only subJe ct t~
approval of the City Trafflc E~gineer.
Ms. Meredith stated a median would prol,tbit left turns ~For Mells Lsne.
Commissioner Bushore stated he felt it is worth !t if one Iife (s save~, if the
doveloper works it out to the Traffic Englneer's sAtisfaciton~ he wili accept th at.
buC wanted it known the CortmisSion is concer~ed. tle suc~gested lhe no parkin g
restrictlon be extcnded to the south side of thc street.
Ms. Meredith sta ., parktng couid be restricted~ Lut it is e h~rdshtp to any a ~k a;
that in this k(nd of area that could be beneflctal because the c~ars would no t be out
on the street and site dtstancc would also be Improvcd.
Commts~inner 9ushore stated there was a concern on Orange Avenue where there was a
nursing school across from an elementary school and perking problertis were created.
Chai~man Tolar state;~ he did not think tt wou1J be feasible to add cen units to the
60~ ~ange and suggested redlstribu~!ng the untts ar-bng the 80$~ t00d and 120$ ranges.
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MINUTES, ANANEIM tl'rY PLANNING COMMISSION, DECEMER 15, 1°8~ 80•755
M~~ Norkeitis ststed he wo~sld be wil ltng to redi4trtbute the ten units within the $0$
and lti^`'. distributlan groups~ but not to incre~s the totel n~m~ber of effordable
untts. •no ~uggested redistrlbuting thosa snme 55 unlts for a total of 1Q In the 8~1Z
or batow rengc., 1~ tn the ! OOb a~ below ~ange end the bal~nce in the 12~Z ranqe.
C~rtxnl s s i oner dushor.~ s tat~d he wan ted 6> af ford+~b 1 e un I t s~ w 1 th th~ 10 add I t 1 ona 1
untt~ in the b0`~ ar b~lar irange~
ChAirman Tolar falt cor~ccrn~cl that tl~e Commlssion is dict~ting p~ices.
C~mmtasi oner Be~nes felt ttsis is a falr offer to the people of A~ahelm and the people
who would llve here and CoRanlssloner Fry stated he takes a dtm view of th~ Commission
getting involved i~ ecor~omi cs and felt this discussto~, Is completely out of Itne and
the Commisslon Is dicteting prices to the •fe~veloper; and thst It Is all rlght to be
opposcd to the r~3$ donsity bonus~ versus th~ 2r$ denslty bonus. I~e stated
percentages ere probably ona of the most dangerous fo~ms ot methmatlcs to deal wi th;
thet thi s probabl~~ fs one of the last chances for ncw construction to provtde low
eost ho+~s(ng and within six months tlierr wi 11 be no such thtng as affordable hous tng.
Commiss i oner K( ng stated 1~~ 1 i kes thc proJect.
Goinnlss ionPr Uarnes statec she ls votctnc~ hcr optnion so thc developer wll 1 know whAt
she thin~:s is wronc~ wlth t'~e proJect.
Commiss ioner Dushore statecl the Comntssian Is becoming more sophlsticAted tn
approvi ng affordable proJeets, but st) 11 havs nat discussed the mrin problem and are
trytng to reach a falr c~rr~romise; tl~at 1~ edditional units in the IIO$ range is far
better than an additiona! ln~ or 26 units. fle f~lt thc Gormisslon is being
re~sonable and is denling i~ land use~ not economlcs.
Mr. Norkaitis statecl thei~ c:o~any would be comfort~ble in having a distributlon of
the ~f fardab 1 e un 1 ts w( th 1~ un I ts i n tt~c T.~~ r~nge , 11 1 ~ the 10~~ rane~e and 34 ; n
the 120$ rangc fo~ a tota 1 of 5; un 1 ts .
ACTION: Commisslancr Uarn~s offered a rrotion~ seconded by Gonrnissioncr King and
MO^TIpN CARRI~O (Cor~missi~ne~r Nert~st being absent), tfiot the A~aneim City Plenning
Comr+~i ss tun has reviewed th~ prAposal ta reclass i fy subJect pro~erty from the RS-A-
~3,400 (Residenttal/Agri~u ltural) Zone to tf~e RM-30~A (Residential. Multiple-Fami lyj
Zone to permit a 5-lot~ 22~0-unit condominium subdiviston (2;$ affordable) wfth
walvers of minimum lot area per dwelling unlt~ maximum structural height~ mtnimum
f)oor a~ea~ minimum recreatlernal-ielsure area~ and minimum number of parking spaces
nn an i rregul~rly-shaped parc.el of iand conslsting of approximately 12.3 acres
located at the southwgst carner of Cerritos Avenue and Eucltd Street~ havln~
ap~roximete frontages of 930 feet on the south side of Cerrltos Avenue and 425 feet
on the west slde of Eucltd Street; and does hereby apprave the Negattve ~eclaration
from the requlrement to prepare an environmentai impact rep~rt on the basis thaL
thert vrauld be no signifieant individual or cumulative adverse environmental impact
due ta the approval of thi s Nr_gatlve Declaration since the Anaheim Genera) Plan
designates the subJect prvperty fnr law-medium density land uses commansurate with
tha proposal; that no sensiti~ve environmente) imp~cts are involved i~ thc proposal;
that the Initial Study submltted by the petitloner tndic+~tes no signiflcant
individuai or cumulative adverse environmental impacts; and that the Negative
Declaratlon substantiating the fore~oing findings is on file in the Ctty of Anahefm
Planning Department.
~2i~ siao
ANANEIM CITY PLIWNING COMWISSION,
Commissloner 9a~nes otfared Reaolut~~n No. PC80-228 snd m~ved fo~ its pass+~go snd
edo~-tlon thst the An~hetm City Planning Commisslc,n does hereby grant Recl~sslficatlo~
No. 80-~1-13. subJact to the Interdepartmi:ntal Comn+ittee reconmendatlons.
rasolution was passed by the follawing
COMMISSIONERS:
CONMISSIONERS:
COMMISSIONERS:
Commissione~ Barnes offered u motion. seconded by Commissloner Fry and MOTION CARRIED
(Commissiuner lierbst being absent), that the Anah~im Ctty Planninct Commission does
hercby grant weivcr of cock roquiren~nts on the besis that the developer has
stlpulated to provide no less then 25~ of the praJect for sfford~ble h~using~ with lf1
units design~ted at th~ a0L of mcdlsn income range, 11 units deslgnated at the IOQ~
of ined i an t ncome rangs and 3~i un i ts a t tF~e 120$ of inect i an t ncc~me range.
Commisslaner Barnes offcred Rnsolution No. PCB~-22~ in pr~rt, bnd moved for Ics
passege and aduptlon that thc Anehelr+ City Planning Coi+mission does hereby grent
Condi t tonol Use Permi t No. ?.119. I n ~art ~ granti ng wa( vers (a) ~(b) ,(c) and (e) on
the bas(s that thc devcloper hes ayrecd to entcr into an agreement with the City of
Anahaim~ pu~3 uant co Govcrnmcnt Code Section G591y to p~ovide no less than 2y$ of the
unlts for affordable i~ousing~ in accordance wit~~ ~;uidelines establ ished by the Ctty
af Anaheim, and to pr~vide 1~ unlts at 8~~, or lcss af inedlan income~ 11 unlts at 100~
or less of inedian income and 34 units at 12~$ or less of inedtan inc~xne and denying
walve r(d) on khe basis that said w~iver was delrted by revised plans ancl subJact to
Interdepertmental Committce rec~mmendations.
the farcgoing resolution was
COMMISSIUNLRS;
COMMISSIOIIERS:
COhMISSI0NER5:
Commissione. Barnes offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Fry and MOTION CARRIEO
(Commissioner Herbst being absent), that the Anaheim City Planning Cnmmtssion does
hereby find that the praposed subdlviston. together wlth tts design and trnprovement,
is co~sistent with the City uf Anaheim Gencral Plan. pursuant t~ Government Code
Section 66473•5; and does, therefore~ approve T'entative Map of Tract No. 110y3 for a
5-lot, 220-unlt condomtnium subdiv(sion (2;4 affordable) subJect to the following
conuitions.
the approvai of Tentative Map of
of Reclasstficatton tdo. 80-81-13•
2. Th at should this subdiviston be developed as more than o~e subdivlsion,
subdivision thereof shail be submitted in tentative form for approval.
3. That the original do:uments of the covenants~ conditio~s, and restrictlons~ and a
letter acidressed ta developer's title compAny authorizing recardation thereof, shall
be submitted to the City Attorney's office and approved by the City AttornCy's
Office, Publtc Uttlities Dept.. Building DivisloR~ and the Engineering Diviston prior
to final tract map approval. Said documents~ as approved~ shall be filed and
reco~ded in the Office of the Orange County Recorder.
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MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PLI'~NNING COMMIS510N, DECEMBER 1~~ 1980 80•757
4. Th at st~eet names shsll bo approvad by the City Plenning De~artment prlor to
epprovel of a final tri~ct map.
5. Th at drelnega of subJ~ct property shall be dtsposed of In e n-anner satisfacto ry
to the City Engino~r. (A storm drain latcral shall be constructed In Cerritos Avenue
so that ultimatcly ell dralnafle from subJect praperty will be taken back to the
proposed dra) n i n Euci id Stree! .
6. That tha owner of subJect property sfiatl pay to the City of Anahei~~ the
apprpprl~te (~ark and recreetion ln-lteu faes as determined to bo approprlate by the
City Counr.ll~ said fae~ to be paid at the tin~ tha bulldtng permtt Is isaued.
7. That al) prlva~e streets shall be ck ve.loped tn eccordence with the Clty of
Aneha(m~s St~ndard Detail No. 122 for prtvate streets~ including Instslletlo~ of
straet nnme stc~ns. Rlarts fo~ the privAce street Ilqhting~ as requlred by the
standard detail~ shetl be submittcd to tho Bullding Otvtsion for approv~) and
(ncluslon with thc building pinns prior to the tssuancc of bullding permits.
(Private stre~ts are those whlch provlde prtma~ry eccess and/or circulation wlthin the
proJect.
$. If permanent street namc signs havc not bcen (nstalled~ temporary st~aeR nama
sTgns shall be tnstallcd prlor to any occunt~ncy.
9. That Che owner(s) of subJect propcrty shal i pay che tr.~ffic signal assessment fee
(Ordlnance No. 3G9G) in an nmount as determtned by the Clty Council~ fnr eacfi new
dwelling urit prior ta the Issu~nce of a buildtng nermit.
10. Prior to the se1N or final bullding and r.oning lnspection of any residrntial
candominium untt~ the a-ner(s) of subJect troct shAll preaent evidence s~tisf~ctary
to the Chief Bullding Inspector that the unit Is in confarmancr with the Noise
insulAtian Standflrds spcctfied tn the Galifornt~ Adminlst~ettve Codc. Title 25,
Chapter 1~ Subchapter 1~ Artlcie -+.
il. The seller shall provide the purchaser of each condomintum unlt wtth wrltten
i~formation cc~ncern(ng Anahelm Municlp,~l Code 14.32.~~^, ~ertaining to "perking
restricted ta facilltate str~et sweeptng". Such written (nformatlon will cl,early
fndicate when on-strect p~irking is ~rohtbited end the penalty for vfolatian.
12. "No parking for street sweaptn~" stgns shail tse installeci prior [o fina) street
insp~ction as rec~uired by the Public Works Cxetuttve Qirectnr i~ eccordance with
spatificdtions on file witfi the Street Malntenarsce Division.
13. 1'hat al! on-sfte sanitary s~w+crs sheli be prtvatc.
14. Th~t the p~tittos~er shall presen~ evide~ce th~at the ~roposad aondorntntum complex
conforn~ ta Council Poltcy I~o. 5G2 •"Sound AttenueCion in aesidential Projecta"
prior to issuance of building parmits.
15. That pri~r to approval af t~e final Trect M~p No. 11053 the developer shall ~nter
Into sn agreeme~t with the City of Anaheim pursuant to Governrt+ent Code Sectton 6y915
agreeing to maxTmum sales p~icas ss epproved by the Clty Qf Anahetm for a minimum of
25$ of the units t~ be law and moderete cost housPng as defined by sald Government
Cvak Sectlon, wi~h no leas than 1~ units destgneted f~r sale ta householda at 60$ or
lc9wer of inesdian incr~me, 11 untts at 100~ or iower of the medlan incoma and 3~ units
at 120$ or loaer o~ tha median lncon~, together wtth such edditional covensnts and
r.onditiorn includtng rosale controis as„by; be requirod by the Ctty of Mahei~.
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MINUTES, ANAH~IM CITY PLANNINO COMMISSION, DECEMBER 15~ 1980 8Q-~58
Commis~innsr Bushore asked tf the 5~~ot subdtvi~ton is ~ecasssry to~ finenclnq ~nd
Mr. Norksttis ropllad that Is Just the way thetr develope~ pisnned tho proJect and ho
wss not sura of tha reason.
"ommissio~er Bush4ro asked if the stfo~deble untts w111 be stretched out through the
v~rious pheaos of the proJect noting the aft~rdability ts tted to e o~e year tima
limit~ ond Mr. Nor4celtis replied It would not be destrable to heve all affordable
units in one phase of the proJect end they wt1) be wo~king wtth the Cortnw~ity Housing
Depa~tment.
Jack White~ Asststant Ctty Attorney, presented the wrttten right tu appeal the
planning Commisaton's d~cision witt~ln 22 d~ys to the Ctty Counctl on the
Reclasstficatton and CondltiAnai Use Permlt and 15 days for the Tantattve Tract Map.
iiE_CESS The~~ wes a fl fteen minute rece~s At 3:15 P•m•
REC~ ON_ VENE The meeking was reconvenod at 3:34 p.m.
12/1S~80
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MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ DECEMBER 15~ 1980 80•7~9
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PUBLlC NEARINC. OWNER: CAI.IFORIaIA CASTLES~ INC.~ &l6 South ~each Boulevwrd~ An~heim~
CA 92COt+. AGENT: KEYSTQME DESICII ASSOCIATED, 7~7 West No~th Street~ Anahelm~ CA
92305. Prope~ty descrihed as rn Irreg~~lariy•shaped ~erc~l of land consisting of
approximatc0y 1.QG acres~ locetr,d at u,16 South Qeach Uoulavard. P~operty presently
cl~ssiffed CL (COMMCRCIAI. lIMlTCD) ZOtIE.
CONDITIONl1L USE PERMIT RCQUEST: TO CDf~STRUCT A 73-IiNIT MO7EL W1T11 WAIVERS OF; (a~
MAXIMUM STRUCTURIIL IiE1G1~T AND (b) MI!~IMUM l.A~lO5CAPED SETUACK.
Sub,ject ~ctition was c~~tlnur.d from th~ meetf~y nf December 1. 19a0 et the request of
tlin petl tloner.
There was onr person indicniing hcr ~+resence in appositlon ta sub)ect reque.st~ and
alth~u~h th~e st~ff repc~rt was not read~ it is referr~d to and madc a pArt of the
mtnates.
Deveriy Jeckson~ ayent. expleined the pro~oxal ls a 3•story, 72-unit mote) wlth e
two-aedronm managcr's unit; that the ravised plans show a 10-fo~t widc landscaped
area adJaccnt to ttse stngle-fteml ly restdence to the north end thc wali has wlnciows
nvw becausc it was felt that would give A bett~r appr.arancc thAn a blank wall. She
statcd guests on the flrst and second floors can sce the 10-foot gardcn area from
thet r w 1 nck~ws .
Rick Covay, awner of the adjacent single-family ciwclling to the north~ stated he
b~sically has the san~e cnn~crns hc t~Ad two weeks aho r~garding thf 32-foot high
structu~e very closr to hls property. Ile stated hts is a~~-b~droem~ two-bAthroom
home with a swtrtminy poo) th re~ feet fram the south property itnc and the 32-foot
high structure along th~ prope~rty line will eliminet~ the sun from thc back ya~d;
that he felt this ~~ill definitely t~arm hls t+rnprrty; that to the easc ther~ is an
apartn~nt complex~ but i t hes e iR-feot setbacl. w1 th ct+~~orts and drt veways between
the campi~x and hi~ propcrty. 11e stated he felt the w(ndows wfll probably be wo~se
than Just a blan{. wAll because pea~le In the mot~l ere qotng to be able to look right
da+n into his back yard and there wlt) be ev~en less privacy.
Ch~olrme~ Tolar :asked if the petitione~ and Mr. L~vey have discussed the possibility
of the tao pro~•~~erties being dcvcloped together. Mr. Covey stated hc spoke with Ms.
Jackson and she had tndicated she ha~ talked with s~meone in th~ ctty and wt~s
lnformed that even lf she owns the property~ she woulci nat be allowed to hav~ the
structure on ~he prape~ty line~ so she did not want to purchase his p~operty and
would try thls destg~ and if it did not worG. out~ would contact hIm ~ga1n.
Ms. Jac.kson explained Hr. Covey's {~roperty is actualiy not 1t•i, snd evo~tually should
be dlVElOpCr) os canmerclal and she dld ~at think thts developrt~nt kill hurt the vaiue
of that p roperty at ail because right naw it is next door to a gasoltne station~
across the street fram a commercial store~ and there Is a large apartment devalopment
to the e~st with a large sign 10 feet from the property 1(ne.
TE1E PUBII C HfARI ~IG WAS CLOSEO.
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM C11'Y PIANNING COMMiSS1QN~ QECEM9ER 15, tg80 80-760
Jahn SNi~t~ ~07 West Narth Street~ answe~ed Commissianer Bushore thet he has de:igned
13A nwtols. Commlssioner 6u~hare statad thts la e large p~r ul of u~operty. and
asked why the mot~) wrs not deslg~ed in the cente~ of the property wtth perking on
tf~e periphcry Mr. Swint ~eplled r+lth singi~-loa~ied driveweys~ 2~, feet of p~aperty
Is wasted and with the motel t'n the middte, two stngle-load~d driveways would be
requlred.
Ms. Jacks~n explalncd there is a sln{~le-famlly zoned p~opcrty ta the south and the
motol had to be locnted 1;0 feet from that area.
Mr. Swint explainea the wtncluows wero locatcd an the north b~~cause tl~at would be more
enerrgy efflcient a~~d woulci loak better than a blank well; that If the Commisslon does
not want any wincfaws there, I~e would stl 1! 1 i ke the windo~+s on the f i rst f loor
beceuse thr.rc Is r~ six-faot hic~, wall at the ~roperty line and anyone In the gueat
~ooma could not s,ee the nelghbnr's property and the winck~ws could be reloceited to the
south sidc an the setond and third flcars.
Mr. Swtnt stated if the swinuning pa~i on Mr. Covey's property is onfy three feet fram
thc property Ilne~ it Is tilegal because accordlnn to code marG th~n a 3-foot deck is
requi red.
Chairman Talar stAted hc dld not think just moving tha rrotel bACk ten feet
accompllshed what needs to b~ accomplished; And that he recoc~nizns the property Is
unlque with thet ~~e residr..nce~ but it is ciiffi~alt not to protect that property
beceuse thc Lommission norn,elly prot~cts the R-i x~ncs and a Ilfes~yle that peopie
~re enjaying, whether it ls a rent~l property or their awn homc~ and he feels that
obligaCton h~ero; tfiet thia is ccxrrnerclAl oroperty a~d he has nc~ problem with the use
and R two story resldcntiel structure cnuld be bullt adjacent to thc single-famlly
home with no oppositlo~. Ne st~~ted he agrccs !t lc~aks better with windows. Ha felt
maybG a tr~dr. off cUUld bc two stories along that back proNcrty line and noted thet
four unlts would be lost and he falt that would mak~ it ~ r+~ore pi+latable situ~tion.
Mr. Swint asked Abnut the three-story units to the east~ ~nd Cha~irmsn Totar stated
with three storics to the east th(s house wlll be dawn in a well and hr. f~lt a little
rx~re open spacc is necrssary.
Ms. Ja~kson stated the best and htghest use of sub}cct property would b~e a 3~story
unit; that she bought thts p~npctty G or 7 yeers agc~ and has suffer~d through the
years keeping up the payme~ts and really thinks she is tntttled to usG the properCy
to its best and fullcst use.
Chairman 7olar stated a lot of peopic wouid lik~ to take a residential propcrty and
develop a high• rise ~part~ent bullding on it; that he has no problem wlth a motel on
this p~op~rty, but did nat see any lmmediate change in tfie property co thc north and
it is the Commission's obligstlon to protect it es they wo~ld [he ones to the south.
Ms. Jackson asked tl-e Gommisston's oplnlon of a three-sto~y~ unlt in the middle and
Chairman To{ar exptained tf~e Con~missioR can only discuss what ts before them today;
that anather vartance Mould heve to be r..lvertised, etc. He steted t~e wc~uld support
the request with four less ursits~ with only Md siarles tn the area of M~. Covey's
proparty.
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Commtsstaner F~y stated twc- weekt ago it was suggested thst the mate) be moved back
10 feet and the pAtit~oner has canpitnd and thst nothing was mentioned two weeks sflo
ebout elimtnating four units; that there i: ~~ervice stati~n edj~cent to thst
singie-family dwelling and commerct~i use and ~ecr~atlonrl vehtcle storage loceted
nearby and cor~nan s~nRe dictates wh~t is gotn~ tn happen to thAt property in the
future; and that he would be in fevor of the pro)ect the way tt is p~oposed.
ACTIO~J: Commissianer Fry offered e motlon~ s~c~nd~d hy Commissloner pouas end MOTION
CARRIED (Comm(ssione~r lierbst being absent) ~ that the Mahetm City Planning Commtsslo~
hes rdvluwed the proposel to permlt a 73-untt motel wtth watvers of maxtmum
~tructural h~ight And minimum landscAped sethacl: on a~n irregularly-shnped pe~tel of
lancl consls[iny of approxlm~tely 1.06 acres~ having a frontage of ep~roxtmatety 17y
feet on the oast slde of Beach Boulavard, having a m~ximum depth of approxfmately ?.75
feet and being locat~d ap~roxlmstoly 115~ feet nort-i of tha centerline of l3a11 R~ad
(aQG South Bea~ch 8oulevA~d); and does hercl~y epprove th~ Negetive Declar~tion from
the requlrement to prepn re an environn~ ntA1 tmpact re~rt an the basis thrt there
wauld be no significant ind~vfdual or cumulative adverse envir~nmenta) irr~ect due to
the approval of tlils Neyative Declarattan since tl~e ~naheim Genera) Plan designates
th~ subJect property for generel ccxnmercial land uses commenxur~te wtth the pr~posal;
tf~at no sensittve ~nvirorrr~ nta) impacts are Involved in the proposal; that the
Initta) Study submttted by th~ pet~tfoner inditates no signlftcant (ndividu~l or
cu~ul~t(vc adverse e~vtronmental Im~acts; and that thc Negatlve Declaratlon
substantiatinn the foregoiny ftndings is on flle tn the City of Anahelm Planning
Department.
Commissioner fry affcred a motton~ secnndc~J by Corxnissioner 8~rnes and MOTION CAR~IF.D
(Commissioner lierbst belhg absent)~ that tlie Anaheim Clty P1Anning Cormiisslon does
hereby granC request for w~ivers of code r~qufrement on tho basts that denia) ~oulsi
deprive subJect p ropcrty of n privilege being ~nJoyad by other othar proparties in
the same zone And vicinity.
Commissloner Fry offercd Resalutton -1~. PCt~~-23~ r+nd mnv~d for its passac~e end
adoption that the Anahctrn Clty Planning Conmtssion dc,es hereby grant ~Conditlonal Use
Permit Ho. 21~i2~ subJect to Int.erdepartmental Comntttee recom~ndattons.
On r~lf call, the foregoing resalution wes passed by the following vnte:
AYES: COMMISSIQ~IF.RS: BARl~E5. ElOUAS, kiHGligiK, FRY, KI«G, ~9t~tft
NOCS: COMMISSIAi~ERS: 11W~1~- ~j?oS~raR„f ~''Ci...,t~~
AOSENT; tOt~NiS51Ut~ERS ; NER45T ~
Jack i~htte, Assistant Ctty Attorncy~ presented the written right to appeal the
Planning Cammissfon's dectslon wlthin 22 days to the City Council,
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PUIiLIC HEARING. OWNER: ATLANTfC RICNFIEI.Q COMPANY~ 178G West Lincoln Avenue~
Anaheim, CA 92F101. AGENT: P. D. LiPPERT~ 17$~: West Lincoln Avenue~ Anehelm, CA
92~Q1. ''rope~ty descrlbed as on trregulerly-shaped p~rccl of lend conststing of
approximntely 0.5 acre~ loceted at the sauthoast corner at La Palma Avenue and
Imperlal Nighvay~ and further descrtbed as ;7~1~ Eaat La Palms Avenue. Rroperty
presently classified CL(SC) (COMMEi~CIAL~ LIMITFD SCENIC C4RRIDOR OVERLAY) ZONC.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUtST: TO PERMIT A CONVCNIENCE MARKET WITf~ GA50LINE SALES
IN TNE CL(SC) ZON~.
SubJect petltlon was continued Fram the mee~ing af December 1~ 1980 +~t the request of
the pctltloncr.
At the beginning of the meeting, there wes e request for a contlnuance from a
repr~santattve of Atianttc Rlchfietd Company. Commlss~on~er Kinq offered a motion~
saconded by Commissto~ar Fry end MOTION CARRI~D (Corrmissianer flerbst being ,~bsent)~
that the aforemcntionad item bc conttnued to t1~e meeting of Jsnua ry 12~ 19@1.
Following consideration of ttem No. 3~ Tom Goodman, agent. staCed he also represents
Atlantic Richfleld Company and there was n leck of conmunic.atlon b~tweGn their
offices and he would like this item heerd today.
Commissioncr To{ar offcred a rn~tlan~ secondcd by Cammissioner 6ushore and MOTION
CARRI~D (Cortimissioner 1lerbst b~tng absent)~ that the prevlaus continuance actlon be
res c t nded.
i'homas Goodman, agent, stated t t I s Arcn's dest rr to c~r~nvert three se~vt ce statton
sltes to mini-marts in M ohelm and one has elready been approved o~ 6a11 Road; that
this request is vastly different than the other two where the naln tssue is the rlght
of the property owner to use I~is propcrty so iong as it docs not unnecessarlly
Infringe upon legttimate municipal inte~est; but that tF~is epplication should be
approved nat becausa of bencfits to the property a+ner, b~t it rvould be a tremendous
benefit to the i~unicipality bec~use it ts in the scenlc corridor end the grease and
grime of a service station with butane tank~~ taw trucks, etc. is net the best use in
that a~ea. plus that area has a tren~ ndous traffic problcm on La Palma at the present
time and a~s that area graws. the traffic wtll increase; that they feel the conversion
of this servicc station to a minl-mart improvc the tr~ffic problcm; that when Arco
selects a station they wish to convert. it is required to have a ce~tain ameunt of
gasoline volume becausc they know it wTll lose epRroximately 3S to ~~Ox of (ts volume
because It becomes 10~$ se1F-service and 14ses those cu~tomers who do not ~ish to
pump their own gesollne. He stated as A result by converting trdfflc is, in fact,
r~duced. 11e felt the rec~uest shouid be granted for those two reasons.
Mr. Goodrnan referred to the waivers req uested and stated they are willing to withdraw
the slgn variance and wtll comply with code except where required by state law to
heve price sigrts of a cnrtain slze. t~~ steted tt-ey wouid also be willing to comply
with staff~s recommendations tn itam ~~o. Zj~ except they seP no reason for closing
the m~st westerly drivaway and that if the landsca~cd plsnters to be widened are
along impe~ial Nighway~ they wAUld not object to that~ but felt closing the drivaway
would create tremendous internel trafflc probl~nn.
TH~ PUOLIC NE/1RING WAS CLQSED.
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY P~ANNING COMMISSiON~ DECEMBER IS~ 1980 80-763
Chetrman To1ar stated convarstons of gasoll~a service stettons to mtnt-marts creete a
cortbined use on the praperty and thts is a new concept to Anehelm; that he telt from
hts observation of that corner, he wauld ~gree closing the westerly d~ivewey would be
ridlculous; however~ the petitioner had c~tven him al) the valid roasons whY thts
sliauld not be granted; (1) thst there is a Just about every maJor market chain wtthin
abaut a ono-mile radtus; (2) that there are tow trucks and every type of ingress and
egrt~ss poaslble for a~as station to cloud th~t carner worse; (3) th~t Arco anJoys
o~e r~f the two gss stetions anywhere in the Anaheim Hills area and the primary
functl~n on that corn~r should only be gas, If even tha~ bPCause th~t ts one of the
worst ~arners in thts ctty; and that enather use would cloud that carner worse and he
woulcJ never su~port it and cannot sea compounding the problem with e double use.
Mr. Goadman stated the volun-e at that statlon and the traffic wt-1 not be (ncreesed,
but decreased.
ChA(rman Tola~ stated he dld not agrce with that argur.~ent; that there is al~eady a
loadtnq problem there and when cars beck u~ because thcre are very few gas statio~s
in that vicinity~ the bacE-up zone is out into La Palrrws Just fo~ gesoline and he felt
when it takes l~ngcr for the custamer t~ go in and out to buy things, there would not
bc holding Zonc.
Mr. Goodrtx~n siated the sarne custome~s woul~! not bc coming there and would noi spend
as mucli ttme there; that the back-~.:~ of cars and conyestion and t~r~ffic Is extsting
and the only way to ~liminate it is with this convarsian; th,~t the benefit~ to the
clty, in his oplnion~ autweigh the beneflts to thc ~roperty awner; that the operator
w111 profit by not having ta spcnd as mu~h t(me at the station. end with less
overhe~d and only sfx employees in a 2~~-hour period~ but his income wil~ be reduced.
Cortmissioner Bar~cs sta[~~d shc frequents that corner, but
because it is difficult t~~ get in because of the traffic.
one of the nast succ~ssfut Arco stations and that. she did
mart wi11 stop al) those peaple from getting c~as there a~d
because of increased development. She staced there is not
p ropcr ty .
ioes not buy gasoltnt there
She sxoted It ls probablY
not thtnk havtng a mint-
the traffic will get worse
cnouqh parK(ng nqw on thot
Mr. Goodman stated parking does meet code rec~u~rements; that wlth the convarston the
service bays will bn el(minated~ the cars rrill not bc ltnzd up on the side, the
butan~ tank will be ellminated and the two toa+ t~utks wlll be gone; that the ingress
and egress problem is ~xisting a~d (f some actian is nut taken, ic will not ge+t any
better and he feic this convarsion wlll imp~ove the situatlon.
Commisstoner Barn~s asked if the Knotts-Berry Farm sign which Is suppose:d to be
portabic can be remr~vcd. Mr. Goodman stated they wlil be happy to remove it.
Mr. Goodman stated the problem is that ~ustomers coming out of the stattan have to go
up Le °alma and make a turn into the sho{~pi~g ~enter parking lot to turn around. He
stated the conv~rslan will solve that proUlem tn a ccrtain extent because there will
be less traffic volume.
Cammtssioner Fry steted he has seen several servlce station/mini-marts in his travels
throughout Califo~nta and has tried ko frequant tho!s~e stations necause of the price
differantia~~ but tha parking sit~atlon areund the faclliti~s has been so bad that he
has driven past them.
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MiNUTES, ANAt1EIM CtTY PIANNING COMNISSION~ OECEMBER 15~ 1980 SO-764
Commissloner Bushore ciarifled the patitloner sttpulated to eltminate th~ tow trucks
and illegal slgns~ except the price aigns. Ha stated Itie seQS thls es rn Improvement
on that cornar.
ACTION: Commissioner 9ushore offered a mc~tion, seconded by Commisstoner King and
~~l CARRIED (Commissloner Herbat being absent), that the Anaheim Ctty Planning
Commisslon has reviaved tha propesAl to permit a convenience market with gasoltne
sales tn the Cl.(y!,l Zone with waivers of maximum size of price signs~ proh~bitad
free-standing signs and maximum number of wall stgns on an i~reqularlyshaped parcel
of land conststing of ~pproximately 0.5 acre located at the southaast corne~ of La
Palma Avonue And Imperla) Nighway (570~ East La Palmn Avenue); and does hereby
apprnve the tlegat(ve Declaratlc,n from the rec~uirert~nt to pr~pare an environmental
impact report on the bssis ~het there whuld be no signlficant Indtvidua) o~
cumulativc advcrse envlronmenta) impACt duc to the opproval o~ thts Negatlve
Declaratian stnce tt~e Ana~hetm Go~eral Plan designetes thc subJect property for
generAl comrtierct~~l land uses commensurAte with the propo~~l; that ~o sensittve
environmental Impacts t~re Involved in the pr~posal; that the In(ttal ~tudy submitted
by the petttloner indlcaces no siqnificant indivldua) or cumulative advers~
envi ronrr~nta) Impaces; and that tlie Negatlve Decl~ratlon substent(ating the foregofng
findtngs Is on ftlc in the City of Anahelm Planntng Departr-x:nt.
The necd far a sic~n wai~er was briefly discussad wtt-~ ARniE:A S~ntalnhtl ~ Asslstant
Dtrector for Zonin~. e xplainlnc~ if this is converted to self-service only~ the number
of price stgns needed will bc reduced and the regulattons are that a stgn is requtred
for eve ry grade of gasol~ne~ plus tha self-service and futl-servicc signs and that
other scrvic.e ststions liave be~n able ta comply wftl~ thc stnte re~ulat(ons under the
sign ordtnancC~ even thouc~h admittedly the scr.nic corridor re,+uletions rre more
restrictive.
Mr. Gondman ~tated he could stiputate to cc~mply with all sign reyuir•.nents under the
Anahelm codes~ except the price: signs required for meeting state rec~ulattons.
ACT10~1: Commiasioncr Bu~hare affered a mQtton~ ser.onded by Commlssione~ King And
0~1 CARRIEp (Cornr~is~ione~ 11erEst bcing Absent) ~ that che Anahc{m Clty Planning
Commission does hcreby deny the request for waivers of codr. rr_qui rement on the basis
that the p~titioner stipuiated to mcet the sign ordinencc requirement thereby
eliminatin!~ the necd ~or the waivers.
Cc~mmtssfonEr 8ushore offered Rtsolutlon No. PCAO-231 and moved for its pass~ge end adoption
thdi the Anafieim City Ptanning Commis~ien does hereby'grant Conditlonal Use Permit No.
21b8, subject to stipulatians and Inte~dcpa~tme~tal Committee recortmrndetions.
Commissioner King asked if ltquor would b~e sold at this facility And Mr. Goodman
explained generally Arco docs not allow any hard liquor to be sold.
Jack White, Assistant Clxy Attor~ey, explained the staff recommendstions on Qage 6•e~
Item 24~ should be a nart of the approvel~ deleting thc rcquiremant far closure of
the mast w esterly driveway.
Ue.:n Sherer responded to Mr. Goodmen that the landscape pl~nter to be w{der+~d is
alo~g Imperial flighway.
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Chairman Toler st~tod he felt this wili causa drastic changes In treffic and would
conipound the extstin~ problem~. He •tatnd he ~oes not belleve thts operation wtll
changa a~a oP th~ n~o~t IucraRive gas •tations to hsve ~+ les~e~ business and felt this
w111 tncrease tha busineas by addinp another source.
On rol) call~ the foregoing ~esolutlon FAItED TO CARRY by the follaving vote:
AYESs CQMNISSIONERS: OUSNORE~ KING
NpES: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, BQUAS~ FRY~ TOLAR
a~SCNTs CQMMISSIONEaS: HERt3SY
Commissioner 9arnes offored Rasolutton No. PC80-231 ~nd moved for its passage and
edoption that the Anahetm Clty Planning Commtsslon does hereby deny Condltiona) Use
Pe rmlt No. 2148 on tha basis that the commercial use wt11 cause Increased traffic
problems at the intersection end create an undesirable precede~t In the Scenlc
Corridor Ovcrlay 2one.
On roll call~ the foregotng resolution wes passad by the foliowtnq vate:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: QARNES~ 80UAS, BuSHnR~~ sRY, TO~AR
NOES: COMMISSIONERS; KINi,
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS; HERBST
Jeck Whita~ Assistant Ctty Att4rney~ presented the written right to ~+ppeal th~
Planning Comm(ssion's decislon wtthln 22 derys to the City Cauncll.
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MINUTES~ AN/W~IM CITY PLANI~ING COMMISSION~ DECEMBER 15r 19~ 80-~66
!Tk_ M_NO_„Z: Ela NEGATIVE OECLARATI011 ANO COt~01TI0NAL USE PERMIT N0. 21,~i5t
PUDIIC HEARIt~G. dWNER: IIARRY S. RINKER~ TRUSTEE~ 3~a8 P~~lmen Street. Co~tn Mese, CA
92626. AGEI~T: RAYMO-~U SAIMI ASSOC111TES~ INC.~ 11+8 Wesc M~in Street. Tustl~~ CA
92680. Property descrihed es an I~regule~rly•shaped percel ot lend co~ststing of
approxlmat~ly 12.?. acres. lacatsJ at 5401 East La Palme Avenue. P~ope~tY presentlY
classified ML (INpUSTR1Al, LIMITEO) IONE.
CONOITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST: TO PERMiT A CHURCII IN TIIE M4 ZONE.
It (s noted Item No. a was heard prior to this Itam.
There was no one Indicating their presence in opposltia~ to subJect request, ar.d
although the staff report was not read~ It Is referred to rnd mede a part of the
mtnutes.
Roymc~nd Salmi~ agent~ stated they need a place to meet while the chureh is bel~g
constructed and are asking for a permit to use the f~ctlitles at 5~+~1 East La Palms
Avanue; ihat parlcing is adequate and thelr traffic Is bastco) ly on Su~day from 9s3~
to 11:00 a.m. and in the evenings from G:00 to A:00 p.m. and :here wi 11 be veryr
little dally trafflc; that they cantacttd all the tenents and deternined therc are 43
vehicles ustng che parking lot t~nd they do n~t work on waekends or Surid~ys end only
occasinnally on Saturdays. Ile steted they are requesting this use ~o~ three yeers
end have an option on thls leasc for the fourth yeer lf needed.
TtiE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Chairman Tolar asked ha+ iong it would tAke to com~+lete the ~anctuary oF the new
church. M~. Saim) repl ied i t wi 11 probably tAke 1F, months to qet sta~ted on
construction and about 2-1/2 years to completa construction. He stated they heve a
aub~tentfal engineerinq probtem to deel with.
Commissloner 6ushore stated he Is concer~ed that maybe the pro~ect ti+ill not get off
the ground; that many chu~ches have tried to locete in the industrtai area and the
Commtsslon is st~ongly oppos~d. -1e stetcd the present Cammtsaion would be very
reluctant to oppmve this request beyond the origlnal term.
ACTION: Commlssloner Ki ng offered a mction, seco~ded by Commiss ioner Fry and MOTt ON
R EO (Comrr+isstoner Herbst being ab'~nt). that the Ansheim City Ptenning Cammlsston
has revlewed the proposal to permit a church In the ML(SC) (Industrial. Limtted-
Scenic Corrldur Overlay) Zone on an irregularl~r-shaped parcei of land consisting of
approximately 12.2 acres, having a frontage of spproximetely 5~0 feet on the narth
sid~ of La Palma Avenue, having a maxlmum depth of spproxtrnately 1.325 feet and being
located approximately 2,020 fee~c west of the centerline of lmperisl Hlghway (SG~~
Eas t La Pa I ma Avenue) ; and does hereby approve the NegAt i ve tkc t ara t L on f rom the
requi remc~t to prepare an envi ronments) impsct report on the basis that there would
be no slgnifieant (~dlvidual or cumula^ive adverse environment ~1 tmpact due to the
approval of this Negativc~ Declaration since the Anaheim Genmrai Plan designates tha
sub}ect property fo~ generai industr:sl land uses cc~mmensurete with the proposal;
that no sensitive environmentel impacts are invalved tn the proposal; that the
Inltial Study s~mltxed by the petittoner indicates no slgnificani individual or
cumulative adverse environmental impscts; and Lhat the Negative f•eclart+tion
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MlNUtES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSIQN~ DECEMBEa 15, 1980 80•769
Ch~ir-nen Tolar thought tho wording sugyasted Por thn conditlon Is ebout as strong at~
the Commtasian cen c~at to imposa thl~ obllgation on A~ehalm Illlis~ Inc.
Mr. Titus •tated the Engin~ering Olvlslon w111 work wlth the developer and AnaMelm
H111s~ I~c. to qot this do~e at the proper ttme,
Mr. Salm) stated they wanted to bring the sltuatlon to everyonr's ette~tlon.
Chslrmain Tolar stated I~e has no ~+roblem with the holght 1 imitatlnn and thought this
would be a good use and la delighted that Anaheim Ilills Cortmunlty Church hes found s
place.
ACTIQN: Chairman Tolar offcred a mc-tfon~ sec~nded by Commissfoner King and MOTION
~0 (Commissinner Fierbst boing absent)~ tl~~t the M~h~tm City Planninq Commisslon
has revicwed the pro~osal to p~rmit a church and prtvete ~ducatlc-n~~l fnc(llt' i wtth
welvar of maxlmum structurrl hcight on an irrcgularly-shaped porccl of land
cansisting of approxim~+tely 10.$ ocres heving a frontage of approxlmately ~+00 feet on
the southeast side ~f Senta Ana Canyon Road~ having a maximum depth of ahproximately
1100 feet and being located sp-~roxlmete~ly 50A feet east af the centerl tne of
Eucelyptus Road; and doess hereby approve tl~e Negative Qecleration from the
re~ulrement to prep~re an environmental Impact repart ors the bASls th~t thnre would
be no stynlfica~t Indivldua) or cumulatlv~ adverse envtronmental Impact due to the
opprova) of tf~ls IJegattve Declarattnn since tt,e R~ahelm Goneral Plan desic~n~tes the
a~b]ect property for residcnttal hi~ls(de density land uses con~r~nsurate wi~kh the
proposal; ti~et no senslt(ve anvirone~nta~ Imp~cts ere lnvolved in the proposal; thet
the Initlal Study submitted by the pet{tlon~r Indicates nn slc~niflcAnt Individual o~
cumuletivc advcrse envi ronmenta) imt~ects; and that the Negative Decla~attan
s~bstantlating the forogoing findings ls on file in the Clcy oF Annheim Pl~nnfng
Uepartment.
Chatrmon Tolar offered a motlon~ seconded by Commlssl~ner Fry ~nd MQTION CARRI~D
(Commisstoner Nerbst being absent), that the Anaheim Ctty Planning Commission does
hereby grant request for walver of cade rcqulrement nn the basts af the hillsidd
topography of s~bject prc~erty~ wtth the structuro proposed In a Canyon and would not
adversely affect or abstruct the vissbility nr llnes of sight from ad]acent and
nearby p~operties.
Chairman Tolar offe~ed Resolution No. PCBf!-232 and moved for its pa~sege and adoptton
that the Anaheim City Planning Commlsslon does hercby grant Cond(tlona~ Use Permit
No. 2156~ sub~ect to Interdepartmental Conmittee recommendatfons.
Cheirman Tolar noted another conditlon Mas bean requested by the Traffic Engineer
that the access deceleration lano and median island on Santa Ana Canyon Roi+d confor'~;~
to clty standards as appravod by the Clty Traffic Englnee~. H~ stated this is a
normal requlrernent and should be e part of the resolution.
On roll call. the foregoing resolution was ~assed by the follawing vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES~ BOUAS, BUStIORE~ FRY. KING. TOLAR
NOES: COHMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMiSS10NERS: NER85T
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Mr. S~Imt refer~ed to Conditton No. 14 pertelning to dralnaqQ. ~nd stated there wes
an •greemant on May 2~~ 1975r indicattng that it Is the ~eap~nstbillty of A~eheim
Hilis~ Inc. to provide tha dratnage Irtprovements for thls property; snd that he
racoynlzes tho petltloner is ~ospontlble for tl~e dnsl~n of the dralnage fec111tles
and there wss e sttpulation for relmbursen~ nt. II~ steted they would itke the
requtremont (ncluded that when they a~e ready to butl~~~ these dratnage faciitttes
wtl) be Installed. F1a referred to Conditton No. 1f~ AnJ st•~t~d they wiil provl~o an
e~semert to ths Water Distrtct p~operty If It Is r~ssibic.
TNE PUl3Ll C IIE~RI NG WAS CL~SED.
A~ntk~ Sontalahtl, Assistant Uir~ctor for Z~ning~ steted the petltioner recommended
sonw additions to Condltlon No. 1G that primarily mekes a reference to a lettar ta
Ana~~elm Hllls~ InG. thet discusses thet.• responsibilities tn canstructinn the storm
drain after th~ de~slgn has beesn prep~red and the conditton wlll lnclude that a
relmburserro nt agreern~nt will be m~de available to the dcveloper for the engtneering
and deslgn fees; that the praperty awners in thQ drainage basin as they develop wil)
be requlred to reirtb urso tliis d~veloper ond the ctty wouid not be lnvolved.
Chairman Tolar furtf~er explain~d thare Is an a9reament that Anahetm Fillls Inc. has
ayreed to build a storm d~ain end if tt~ey had not butit It by the ttrr,~ a property
awner further dnvn ck velopeci their ~roperty, the perso~ below would clesign the storm
drAln and Anahaim Hltls. Inc. would subsequently develop lt.
Commissioner aushore pointnd out the petttioner wanted sort~ assurancr that the sto~m
dratn ~ould be finished by lhs timc he Is reedy to butld and Mr. Salm1 stAted they
want the co~peratton of the city to sce thet the improvements wtlt b~ available to
them when they are ready.
Chairman Tol~r clerlfied that the condition es s~. ~ested would allow Anaheim Htlls to
go ahead and develop the storm drain fr~m their sautherly property li~e south whlch
would satisfy the watcr runoff from ahovc.
Jay Titus, Office Engineer~ stated thfs condition would permlt Anahetm Hlils~ Inc. to
phase const~uct thst draln fmm the proposed develapmnnt on the south property line
to the ultimate dis~sal. Ne stated the City Engineering Department will work with
the devr.loner and Anaheim Flllls, Inc. to see that the storm draln is constructrd by
thP tl rr~ they need i t.
Jack Irhite~ Assistant :ity Attorney~ stated he ~iid rat want to see the city in the
positton of guaranteeing a proJect that would be constructed by Anaheim Hills, Inc.
Jay Titus explained Anaheim Hills~ inc. was involved in Drainage Dtstrict 41 at the
upper end of Chts drainage basi~; that whcn they did some davelopn+~nt one of the
requirements was for them to construct this storm drain and tt~ey declded at that time
that thcy would rather postpone this constructlon and asked the City Council for a
waiver and Co uncil approved the postponement of that requiren+ent subject to certain
co~ditfons; thet ane of thc condittons requires that if Anaheim tiills, inc. doas any
further developmcnt within Diatrict 41~ they will wn~truct the storm drain and it
further states that if any downstream property develops~ that downstream property
o+-ner will d~sign the drain ~nd Anahetm Hills~ Inc, w(11 construct it.
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ DEC EMBER 1~• 1~80 80-y6~
•ubttsntiating the foregoing findt~gs Is on fi le In the City of AnAh~im Pienning
Oepertment.
Commissioner King offernd Reiolutlon Na. PC80- ~23 and moved for Its pessege and
adoption that the Anaheim f,ity Planning Commtssl~n daes hereby grant Condirional Use
Permit No. 2155 for a period nf 3 years~ sub)ect to review for possible extenslons of
time upon wrltten request f~om tha petitioner. And suw}act to Interdepertmantal
Committee ~econr~nd~tions.
On rol t cal l~ Cha foregoing resolutton ~-as passed by thn fol lawing vote:
AYCS: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES. pOUAS~ BUSNOR E~ FRY~ KING. TOLAR
NOES: COMMISSIONCRS: NONE
ApSEt1T: COMNISS10fJER5: NERBST
ITEM N0. ~: EIR NEGA1~1
P~RM- IT N0. 215~-
DECLARATION. WAIVEP, Of CODE REQUIREMENT AND CONDI
AUBLIC HEARING. OWNCR; ANAHEIM COMMUNITY CNU RCH~ 52n7 East Northrop Avenue, Anahet-,~~
CA 92807. AGCNT: RAYMOtID SALMI ASSOCIATES, 1 NC.. 14$ West Msin Street~ Tustin, CN
92Ga0. Property is descrihed as en lr~egula~ty•ahaped of irnci consisting of
approxlmately 1~.fi acres~ having ~ frontage of approxinwtely 400 Peet on the
southcast sidr. of Santa Ana Canyon Road. having a maximum de~th of approximately 1100
feet and being l~cated approximately ~0~ feet cast of the centerllne of Eucalyptus
Road.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT aEQUCST: t0 PERNIT A CHURGH Af~D PRIVAT~ E;IUCATIONAL
fACILITIES WITII WAIVER OF MAXiI~UM STRUCTUR/-L HEIGMT.
I t was notcd I tem fdo. S shou 1 d be heard beforc I tem -In. 7.
There was n~ one 1 ndi cati ng the 1 r presence i n op~si t Inn ta sut~J~ct r~r,uest ~ a~d
although th~ staff report was not read, it is referr~d t~ +y~~d made ~: Farr. ~~f thr
mtnutes.
Raymond Sa lmi ~ aqent, stated he egrees w) th s Zaff's recammendation; t~ :c t~~e~ aroperty
ls in a valley aff Santa Ara Canyon Road and that they liave designed the p~~~Jetk to
be integrated tn:~ trre site; that thetr goal is ta ultlmatcly cfevelap a sa~ct~uary and
educ.. t i on:, I f~~ i 1 i ty ~+i th t,~e 100~ seat s+anct s~~ry be i ng the f i rs t ph,~se af
development; that the educario~~l faciiities r+ould ba the secor~d nha,e of development
an~1 thr: thi rd ph.,se woulel br. en txtenston af the recreational f~ct 1 ities and athlett c
field; [hat tn desi_yning tht facillty, they wauld have to appreciably change the
gra-Jing of the stte ta produce the play field which would be shared with tfie
community; and that the church is very strong Into the youCh programs. Ne stated
they hope ta start construction of phase on~ within 18 rtanths and thc rest In the
tliree years.
Mr. Salmi stated the helght waivcr ls requested because of th~ terraln ancl thetr
desira to preservG the hillstde and also it I s an econantc sltuation; and that the
height of the building ts ~+ or 5 fcet hiqhe~r than the slope.
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ANIIHEIM
CITY PLANNING CQMMISSION~ DECEHBER 15~
1960 •
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I TEM N0. 9 t E I R NEGAT I VE DE~LARAT I QNa R~f C_L~SS i F 1 CAT I ON N0. 8A-81 2--. VAR 1 ANCE N0.
PURLIC HEARING. OWNERS: GER.ARD F. AND JQYCE M. WAaDE~ ~~33~+ East La Palmo Avenue~
Mahetm~ CA ~2df17. P~pPerty dascribed as e rectangularly-shaped parcei af Iand
cansisting of apProxim~tety O.G~+ ecre located at the northeast corner of Katella
Avanue end Dalles Drive~ and further descrtbed as 2035 West Katelle llve~ue. Property
presently clessified RS•7200 (RESIpENTIAI~ SINGLE•FAMILV) ZONE.
aECL~S51 F 1 CATI ON REQUEST : RM-3~M
VARIN~CE aEQUFST: WAIVERS AF; (a) MINIMU~/ LOT l1REA PER Ot~ELI.ING Ut~IT~ (b) MAXI~IUM
STRUCTUftAt H~AT~10-~AL(1.E15UREMAND (f) M~INIMUI~~tENUMHERMOF'FARKINGpSPACES TOTESTA6LISt1 A
MINIMUM RECRE
0-~E LOT~ il-UNIT COIIDOMINIUM COMPLEX.
TENTATIVE MAP aEQUEST: TO COt~STaur.T A oNE LoT, 11-UI~IT CO~ID~MII~IUM SUBDIVISION,
Thero v~e re th ree persons 1 ndl cat 1 ng the 1 r rresence i n o~nos ~ t t ~~ to sub}cct request ~
anJ althouyh the stnff retwrt was not read~ It la referred to and made a part of tha
minutcs.
Gerard Mlarde, owner~ was present to answer Any quostions.
Gordon flastings~ 1771 Soutl~ Oallas Driv~~ stated his propercy ts across the street
from the proposed access; tt~at saveral nei~hbo~s wanted to attend~ but could not;
that they do not want to stand In the way af prog~c~s~ but felt six walvers woul~i
have an aAvcrse tmpsct on the nelghborhood; that they are asking for 157$ af the
allowable de~sity and no afforJAble units are proposed; t~~et Dall~s Drive (s a cul de
sac with three branching streets and t~++ffic travels fasr. on thrse streets; that th~
parking waiver cuuld creatc qulte A p~~blem for th~efer9to~parkdonnthe streetththat
people who would hevc p~rking spaces on site may p
Chls report addresses a lot of pcrcentages and tho wet vers seem to be lerga beGause
they wa~t to construcC eleven two-story untts on this property and there are no other
two-story units on chis property and there are no other twa-st~ry units in this area;
that they are also concerned about traff i c and there are sma) l chi 1 dren in the
ncighbo~haad end tt is difficult t~ kc~p tl~~m off the stre~ts snd driveways where
potential u-turns wiil be madc; thac his property faces directly Into the access for
the project; and that thare is a potenti~) problem for parking on street sweeping
deys.
Margare t Geal l~ 1775 South pa 1 I as . s ta ted she has 1 f v~d there 2~- yea~s and agrees
with Mr. Hastings; that the traffic is bad alre~dy a~nd this ts a smril area~ but felt
11 two-story units in a one-story area is Just too much.
LelAnd Woods stated he avns p~operty bdJace~t to the northern boundary and ls
obJecting to the two-story structures 12 feet from his property line and the whole
structure will be o~e massive wail be~ind thelr throe p~operties; that there is
already en atr p~ablem because of the trees and dur(ng the sumner he feli this
structure wiil tompletely block his air clrcute~tlon; that there is a single-story
cort~lex to the esst and he s~w no reason for this massive structure; and that he
agrees t~ct aimost do~bles allbthe code requi eme~tsess to Katella Avenue. He ststed
the pr+a j
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TH~ PUBLIt NEARING WAS CLOS~D.
Chalrman Tolar pointed out a~ earller roquest fo~ 14 units on 1/?. Acre h~d had a
difficult time gotting ~pprov~l end thts request Is far 11 unl~s on s p~rcel 2/3 thot
siset th~t (t is up to the patitioner to Justlfy the hardshtps for granting the
w~ivsrs becsuse stete law dlctatos the hArdsht~ must be due to the size~ shape or
lopogr~phy at the lAnd itseif; end that the Commtssio~ cannet conslder the cast of
l~nd and cons~ruction sa a hardship.
Mr. Werde steted the property ts srn~li and ho did not think singlc-famlly ~esldence
would be feasible.
Chairmsn Tolar stat~d this proporty ts roughly 7200 shuere feat and abuts th ~~e
resldenttal propertlos and he could ~ot ~upport this mnny units and coulc! not
envis lon even wanti ng to put uni ts an th~t corner.
Mr. 4larde atated he thinks thet area noeds rt+ore housing wtth the Conventlon tenter
there~ etc. •
Chairn~an Tol~~ stated fhe whole city needa hou3ing~ but nat at a cost Co eve ryone
els~e; that e lot of property awners would love to put eleven u~its on their single-
fami ly lot. but that would create big problems.
Commlss(oner Barnes agreed that oleven units wou;~l be ,just tao meny units; that she
is not particularly opposed to the reclassificatl~n~ but Is opposed ta the number of
untt~ because of the two-story units and Increased traffic. She stated reducing the
nur-~er of units would eltminate those prc~blems.
M~. Warde stated with the cost of the land~ (t Is ~ot fe~sible to put less unita on
the property.
Commissioner Bushore st~:~d he would su~port a maxtmum of stx units.
Chairman Tolar stated he ts also conce~ned about the reclassificstion.
Commisstoner Bushore stated this proposal wouid ovtrbuild the property and the
Commlsston can either vote o~ these plans or the petitloner can redeslgn them. He
stated he would want to se~ stx one-story units; and that this proposel 1~ short on
pa~king spaces. Ne pointed out a letter was sent to the pettttoner informing him of
wh:,t he needed to do.
Mr. Warde stAted he had talked to Communtty Housi~g and there ts no way this praJect
wouid be feasfble ustng thelr criteria.
Comnissioner E~hare stated he could r,ot ~upport this proJect. He explatr.~d even
thaugh the s! 'f report indicates tF~e p~ope~ty would suppc~rt 7 units, the Cortmission
could not vote on that today and su~~gested a six-week continuance. He stated he
realixes the c'*y needs housing an<< the Cammission does try to be reasanable.
Mr. Wsrde stated ha would like a vot~~ on thts proJect as submitted.
ACTION: Conmissioner Bushure offered a motion. seconded by Commissioner King and
MOTION CARRIED (Comnissloner Nerbst b~eing absent), that the An~heim City Planning
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Commiasion h~s rovlawed th~ proposal tc+ recl~ssify subjecc property f~om RS•7200
(R~eaidential, Singia-F~mily) Xoncon~minium subdtvtstonewith~watverapof mtntmYum lot
to construct a one-lot~ 11'unit g m~~~mum
sroa per dwelling unit~ msximum structural hei ht~ maxtmwr site coverage~
land:ceped s~tb~cl.~ minimum recreatlon~l•lelsure area snd minimum number of pe~~ia~ra
~paces on a recten9h,esty corna~dofaKatetla llvenue ands Da1~~sfD~Iveoxh~vingYaAf~o~ta9e
locatad at the nort e
of opl~~oximataly 1~A faat on the north slde of Kate11~ Avenue and 17~ feet o~ t a
a~st aide of Oallas (2~35 West K+itella Avenue~; and does hareby approve the NegAtiva
Declar~tion from the requiren~ent to prep~ra en environmental tn~act report on the
basis th~t there would be no slgnificant individual or cumulative adverse
environmental Ir~ act due to the approval of thla Neg~+tivc Dec~ArAtlon sinte the
Anahalm General Pl~n deslgnotes the subJcct prnperty f~r low-n~edium denalty land uses
conxr~ensurate wl th the t~roposai ; that no senst tl ve envi ronrr~ental impacts ~+re involvad
in the propossl; that tt~e lnittal Study submlCtcd by th~ petitloner indicAtes no
slgnificant Individnasubstantlating thevforegoingrfi dings tsnontfi~~ndnt~hc City of
Negativn Ueclarati~
Anahelm Planning Department.
Comnlssionar Bustx~re offered a resolutlon rpproving Recl~sslficatian No. B~-R1-:.p.
Jaek uhtte~ Assistant City Attorney~ tilained sev~ral of th~ staff conctitions ~a1Ate
to the vari ance and tract ePi rLoeanerove~thecrecl ass 1 f t cat ionsubm) t ted ~rnd su99es~ted
thc Commisslon mi~ht not wls P
Annika Santalahti explalned that ln che past t~~e Corm~lssion has denlccf Simll~ar
requests wt~hout preJudice.
Conmtssloner Bushore °fimrCitReplanning Cortmissian3doesdhereby deny~Reclassiflcation
adoptian that the Anahe Y
No. 8-51-20~ without prc)udice.
On roll call. the fore9o~~9 resolution was passed by tf~e following vot~:
AYES : GOMM I SS I ONERS : B ARl~ES ~
NOES: COMMISSI0NER5: NONE
A85Ef~T ; COMMI SS I Ot~ERS : NERDST
SOIlAS ~ BUSNORE, FRY ~ KI NC ~ TOIAa
Gammissloner 9ushore offered ReP~enntng Commlsslon~d~esdhereby de~y'YariancepNo.nd
adaption that the Anmheim C tY
3~oz.
On rall call, the faregoing rGSOlution was passed by the fol{owEng v~ote:
AYES: COMM15510NER5: BARNES~ BOUAS~ BUSNOaE, PRY, KING. T4LAR
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: t10NE
ABSENT: COMMISS IOIIERS : HERBST
ACTION: Commissio~er Bushore offered a motion, second~d bY Co'R"~qsi°~°~ p~annin
~ CARRIED (Ccmn+bssfi drafL~rsrevld+ingbthetp~oPosedtaubdlviSion~itogether wlth
Conmission does here y
lts design and i+riprovama~t~ th~t the site is not physically suitable !o~ the -,roposa
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Mr. Jah~son stated the avner Is in fevor of free enterprise~ but want~ to make sure
the city h~s rutea and ragulatt~ns so tt~ero wil) not ba a~y conflicts.
~h~irman Toler statad the Commis~ton can revake the permft of eny w a thst vlolates
the health~ or ssfety of the public.
Mr. Butter statad he thought the Commisslon waa on his stde and pointed out that ha
has promised the awn~r qulte a is~ge runt Incranae if thte (s qrantad.
Responding to Commissioner ~v~ho~~~ Mr. Dutler ex~lained the tsctlity will hendle 127
p~opi~; that thQ musie is coantry and v+sst~r'n N-d thst'~ har~ `~ ne~ P~~~~9 P~~~
b~c.aw~ ch~ •ncert~in~wnc ssara •t 9:00 '.~. i M+d t~c h~ hts a 1tv.-~roa~ 1Mt~.
t t w~s not~d th~ ~ 1 a~nt n9 ot nato~ or h Is autho~l s~+l rap~wnt~t iw has ~Mt~n~l r-sd
tMrc !M~ propos~d pro~~ct falls witl+In tM dsfinitioe~ 01 Cat~ari~1 E~NII~tIOR~~
Class 1, as Geftnerd in pa~~p+'~ph 2 ot th~ City of Anaheln- Envl~e~-w~ntal Impsct Raport
fuidelinas and is~ therefore~ categoricelly exempt Prom the requirement to prepa~e an
EIR.
ACTION: Cammisstoner Dushare offered ~~ motion~ seconded by Comm{ssloner Fry and
M OH CARRIED (C~mmissloncr Ilerbst being absent)~ that the Anehelm Ctty Planni~g
Comnlssion does hereby grant the request for watve:r of mintmum number of parking
~paces on the basis that the exlsttng use has not created any parkinq problems slnce
tho ma}o~ity of patrons are thtre after 9:0~ p.m. when o~her businesscs ln the center
arc closed.
Conmissioner Bushore offered Resnlution Na. PC80-23~ end rrbved for its passage and
aJaption that the Anahcim Clty Planning Commisslon does hercby grant Condtttenal Use
Permtt No. 2138 for a period of ; ye~rs. subJect to revicw for posstble extenstons of
time upon written requcst of tl~e petitioner~ a~d subJcct to Interdepertmental
tomni t tee rQCamnendat ions .
9n rull call, the foregoing resolutia~ was passed by the following vote:
AYES : COMMI SS I ONE RS : QARNES, aOUAS , DUSIIORE ~ FRY, K 1 NG ~ TOLAR
NCES: COMM15510NER5: NONE
A6SENT: COMMI SS ~O~~ERS : NERBST
RECfi55 There was a ~ecess at 5:15 p.m.
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dansity of development end~ tharefore~ the Plenning Commission doas hereby deny
Tentattve M~p of Tract No. 11030 for e o~~s-lot~ 11•untt candomintum subdtvislon.
Jack White~ At~sistant City Attorney~ presented the wrttten right to sppeal the
Pianning Commisslo~'s declslon pe~telning to the Reclassificatlon or Vartance wlthin
22 days to the City Council~ and the Thnt~tive Map af Tract No. 11~;0 within 15 days.
TEM N0. 10: Ela CATEGORICAL E:XENPTION CLASS 1. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT AND
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PUgLiC HEARING. OWN~RS: EWALD F. DARGATZ~ CT AL~ 1A4;~ West Almond~ Orange~ C~
92668. AGENT: SY•ROY~ INC.~ JONN ~UTLER, PRESIDEt~T, 324~~ West llncoln Avenue~
AnAheim~ CA 92G~1. Property descrlbed as en trregularly-shaped parcei of land
conststing of approxtmat~ly 1.; e~r~s located south and eest of the southeast corn~r
of ~tncoln Avenue a~d Westchester Urive~ and further described as 32~~~~ West Llncotn
Avenue (Trails West). Propcrty presently clessifted CL (COMMERCIAL~ LIMIT~O) Z~NE.
COWDITIOt~l1L USE REQUEST; TO PERMIT A Pl1DLIC DANCC NALL I11 TIIE CL ZONE ~'1T~t uAfVER OF
MINIMIIM NUME3ER OF PNRKI~IG SPACES.
There was one intrrested person lndic~ting his presence .~nc! atthouah the sta~`f report
was not rcad~ it ts referrecl to and madr, a ~art of the minutcs.
JoFin Buticr~ c~wner of T~at Is 41est Cocktat i Luunge~ stnted thts is a requsst for a
publtc dAnce permit because they have been operatln~ u~der a c~inner dance permlt. but
have discontinued the fcx~d service.
Woody .lohnson s tated he rtwnages th 1 s cenLe r for an out-of- t~swn ow~rr; that the un i t
was leased as a restaurant opc~ration w(th cocktails~ hut t~e dWi1C~ h~~s a questton
about discontinuing the food service and wondered if people gol~g there for drtnks
would have a de[rimental affecc ta tlie overall usc of thr cantar; and that the owner
does not went the permit granted indeftnltely.
TNE PUBLIC HEARII~G iJAS CLOSEO.
Chalrman ~olar stated most requests of this nature are granted for a certain time
perlod ~o if there is a probiem~ the use can be reyfewed. Ne felt since the operator
has had a goo~ operatlon for stx years that it wlll continue.
Mr. Butler stated therc are vacant parktng spACes at the present time~ but the
kenants interested in this center seem to be those uses which would use the parking
at night such as karate~ exotic exercises~ etc.
Chairman Tolar stated the owner will have to control tha on-slte parking; that the
owner sic,~ ed this applicettan and is now saying he wants It co~trolled, buL the clty
cannat co~t~ol the parking on private property.
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M N0. 11s EIR NEGATIYC OECLAMTION WAIVER
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PUBIIC NEARING. OWNER: MOBIL OIL CORPORATION~ G12 South Flower Street~ Los Angeies~
CA 90017. AGENT: TAIT At~D ASSOCIATES~ iNC.~ P. 0. Box b~+25, Anahetm~ CA 9T.8~3.
P~operty described as en irregulariy~shaped parcei of lend conslsttng of
approximately 7.70 acres~ having a frantage of approxlmetely 313 feet o~ tho west
aldo of Jeffenon Street~ hevtng a maxtmum dopth oF Appr~xirtwtely £~h0 feet and being
tocated e~proxlmately 3Gh feet south of the centerllne of O~anQethorpe Avenuc.
C4NDITIO~~AL USE PERMIT REQUCST: TO EXPA~ID Atl EXISTIMG FUEL TERMINAL (AT1J000
MARKETING TERMINAI,) wITH WAIVERS OF; (a) F1INIMUM LAHDSCAPEO PRONT SETBACK~ (b)
MAXIMUM FENCE HEIGfiT~ (c) REQUIRED ENCLOSURE OF OUTDOOR USES AND (d) MINIMUM t~UM9ER
OF P/-RKING SPACES.
There was no one I~dicatl~g their presence in opposttton to subJect request~ and
although tho staff roport was not read~ it is referred tv and mnde a part of the
minutes.
Vincont 7ait. agent~ stated there Is a 50-foot setback of tha existing building of
which 1Q fcet is l~ndscaped.
Denn 5harcr~ Assistant Planncr, statcd cod~ ~equires etther a fully landscaped 5Q-
foot area ad~acent to Jeffers~n Street which is en arterlal liighway o~ a minlmum 10-
foot wide landscaped strtp with pArktng in that front area and the parkinq is not
located in that 50-foot landscaped setbaclc area, theref~re~ the entire width has to
bo landscaped but if there is publlc or ert~loyee pa~king adJacent to Jefferson, less
than >0-feet would be pe nnttted.
Coiranissionc~ Bushore gtated he reviewed the site and the 1~-feet of tandscaping
eonsists of 4 or 5 trees and wes approved for annexation In 1~71; ehat since this
property is coming into the city~ the Conmisston should consider It in relattonshtp
to what they are trying to da In the Canyon Industria) Arca; and that he realizes
there Is an existing hardshin since the office and warehouse platform are riqht next
to the 50-foot rtqht-of-way and it ts necessa ry for vehic'ies to pull in there. tle
felt somethtng could be donn to improve the landscaping; and he felt there should be
stte screening on the frant and probably on the northern portion of the property.
Mr. Tatt stated Englneering is requiring street tmprovements up to the channel and he
would sttpulate to providing site screening between the northern driveway and the
channel.
Comnlssioner Bushore explained approval wtll be condltioned on the landscaping being
provided with irriaation faciltttes~ with slatted site screenin~~ along the eniire
easterly portton and that portion of the graveled parking area on the north for
approximately 5~ feet.
ACTION: Commissloner Bushore offered a motion, seconded by Commisstoner King and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Nerbst being absent), that the Anahetm City Planning
Commission has rcviewed the proposal to expand an existing fuel tarminal with minimum
iandscaped front setback, maximum fence helght, requlred enclosure of outdoo~ uses
and minimum number of prking spaces on an irregularly-shaped parcet of land
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the west side of Jafforsrx~ Street~ heving e maximum depth of ~pp~oxinMtely 840 feet
~nd bei~g locatsd ep~roximately 36~ feet ~outh of the centa~line ot O~engethorpe
Avenue; a~d does hereby approve tha Nagative Oaclar~tlon from the requlrement to
p~eper~ an ~nvironment~) impact report on the ba'is th~t thera would be no
significeu~t indlvidual or cumulsttva adver~e environmental Impact due to the approv~,l
of this Negative Declsr~tlon slnce tha Anah~lm Genera) Plen destgnates the subJect
p ropa~ty for general induatrial l~nd uses con-men~urete with the proposal; that no
sensitlve environmentel impacts are Inv~lved 1~ the proposel; that the Initiel Study
submlttad by the petitioner indicatas no significsnt tndividual o~ cumuletlve adverse
envtranmenta) Impacts; end that the Negattve Declaratton subat~ntleting the foregaing
findings ts on filc in the Clty of Anahalm Planninq t~partrnent.
Commtssto~e~ Bushore offered a n+ettnn~ seconded by Commissioner Fry dnd MOTION
CARRIED (Cortrnissioner Horbst being absent)~ thet tho Anahetm City Planning Commtsalon
does hereby gr~~t requested walvers af code requi~en~nt on the bssis that the
petitloner stipulated ta p rovide sita screentng snd landscaping with irrigation
facilitles along tl~e easte rn property line and SO feet of the northern property ltno
(n the area of tha g~aveled parking lot ond on the basls that the use is exixting and
has had no adversn effect on the cnvtronment.
Commisstonc~ 8ushorR offered Reaolution Na. PCBA•231 and mc~ved for its passage and
adoption that the Anahetm Clty Planning Commisslon doe~ hereby gront Condition.~i Use
Permit No. 2147~ subJect to Interdepartmentdl Committee recorm~endatlons.
On roll call, the foregoln4 resoluttan was passed by cha following vote:
AYES: COMh11SSI0NERS: BARN~S~ 80UA5~ BUSHORE~ FRY~ KING~ TOLAR
NOES: CGMMISSIONERS: NOtIE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: 11ERBST
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IER OF CADE RE~
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PUtfIIC NEARItIG. OWN~R; A9El ANp CAROL A. MEND~Z~ 10A4 North ~em~n~ Anaheim, CA
92t30y. AGENTs IIUMBEaTO VILLASENOR~ 713 West Fourth St~eet~ La Habra~ CA 90631.
Praperty dcscrtbed as An Irragularly-shapad parce) of land canststtnq of
approximately 0.14 sc~e loceted at the southaaat carner o4' l~n~helm 9ouleverd and
Lemon Streat, ond further deacribmd as 10;~ Morth Anaheim Boul~vard. Prnperty
presontly classifted CG (COHMCRCIAL~ GENER~L) zQNE.
CONOITIO~~AL USE PCRMIT REQUEST; TO PERMIT A USED AUTOMbt31LE SALES LOT wIT1~ WAIVER OF
MININU~t NUMBER OF PARKIF~G SPIICES.
James Rucker~ attorney, 172~ Nest Ball Roed~ AnAheim~ was present to answor any
q ucsttnns.
THE PUIlL1C 1iCARING WAS CLOSFD.
Comnissloner King felt more than t~•+o par~.ing spaces can bQ provtded.
Mr. Rucher stoted they da not fac) tt~Qre woutd ever b~ more than two customers there
at any one tlme; that they anticipate havirx~ 13 to 15 cars ta show; that there is one
ertploy~!e now and they antlc(pate having two; and thet ther~ is some street parking on
Anaheim aouievnrd.
Cornmissloner Bushore askcd if any work will b~ dane outsidc and Mr. Rucker ex~latned
the repalr w~r~, wtll be cbn~e instdc the bullding; that thare is a canopy on the side
usad for detalitng; that the mote) (s on the east sid~ of the property and the
d$tailing wark wlll nat disturb thet proparty.
Gommissia~er Bushore asked thc tcrm of the leas~ and Mr. Rucker responded five years.
Commissioner Bushore feit the use should be tted to a limtcr.d number of ahow cars and
a time ilmit.
Commisstonar Fry asked that the hours of deteiltng operatlon be llmited And Mr.
Rucker responded $:00 a.m. ta y:00 p.m. wduld be acc~ptable.
ACTION: Commtssioner l;i~g offerad a motlon, scconded by Commissioner Fry end MOTION
Cl,RRiED (Conmfssioner Ilerbst beinq absent), that the Anahelm City Planning Comnission
has reviewed the p roposal to pe~mit a used automobtle salcs facility tn the CL
(Commercial ~ Limi ted) 2one with waiver of mi~imum nuurrrber of parking spaces on an
irregularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of eppraximately 0.14 acre located at
the southeast carnar af Anal~eim 6oulevard and Lemon Street~ having approximat~
f rontages of t33 feet on the south side of M ahalm Bouleverd and 75 foet on the east
side of Lerron Street (1039 North Anahelm Bouteve~d); end does hera~y approve the
Negative Declaretton fFOm the requirement to prepa~e dn environmentai Impact ~eport
on the basis that tl~ere would be no slgnificant Individual a~ cumulative adverse
envlronn~ental tir~,act duo to the spproval of thts Neqativ~ Dectaration stnce the
R~aheim Gnnerai Plan dasl4natea the subJect praperty for general commerciai land usea
con~menaurate with the proposal; that r.o sensitlve~ envtrenmentel impacts ~re involved
tn the propasal; that the Initia) Study submitted by the petitioner tndicates no
signiftcent individual or cumulative adv~rse envtronn~ntal impacts; and ehat the
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Negative Deciaratlo~ substAntlAting the foreqoing findinqs fs an }ite In the Ctty af
Anaholm Plenning I~ pertment.
Commisslane~ King offerod s motlon~ acconded by Commta~i~n~r Fry and wOTl~~I CARRIED
(Ccxnmisaloner Horbst bein~ absent)• that the Anahaim City Pl~~ninc~ Ca+imission does
hareby grent the wal~~er af coae requlrome~t ~n tl~e besis ef the unusua) stze end
shape ~f ~ubJact p~operty.
Commiasionor F:ing ofPered Resolution No. PGO~-2~C end nx~~~ed For its c+assage and
Adoptton tF~at th~ Anehetm Clty Plennlnc~ Comml~sian does hcreby ~rent Condttlonal Use
Permit No. 21;1 for e periocl of ~ ycnrs~ subject to revirw for possiblc extenatons of
time~ an~ subJett to tho petttioner's sti~ulntion tt~At th~e Ix-urs of detallin~
operatlon tn thc outcJoor canopy area shnl) h~ limit~d to the hours betNeen E;~~ ~f.m.
and !;:Otl p.m. and thet tha nurnber of cars slial 1 be 1 iml ted to 1; and sub.ject to
Interda~artment~l Gommittce reco~xnanJatlon~
Concernin~a the nur~ber of show c~rs~ Commissioner I3us~~ore stnt~d he does not went an
ovcrflc~w of vel~iclcA into tt~c straet and Commissfnner BA~nes st+~ted the Commission
wil) be wntchiny this usc and daes not want t~ sea eny park{nn problems in th~t oros.
She explainecl the perritt c~n be revoked tP there ~re pr~blems.
On roll call~ tlie furegoing resulutton was passe~ t~y thc follawinc~ vote:
AYLS: COHMIS5IUNCRS: ~ARNES, BOUA,S~ BLSIIORE, FRY~ KINr.~ TOLAR
NOES : COMMI SS I ~t,ERS: NOt~E
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: NERBST
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. 13: Ela CATECORICAL EXEMPT10~1-CLA55 1 WAIVER OF COUE RE UIaEMENT ANO
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PU1fLIC 11EARING. ONt~~R: LOUIS At~D NANUEL WAL7Efi C~. ~ ET AL~ 93r~~ W~ lshirc Bouleverd~
3uite 212, Bevorly 11111s~ CA ~0212. A~ENT: JAMES STAVAII~ 111~1 West Ketella Avenue,
Anahetm, CA h3lic~2. Proporty described as an Irregulerly•shA~eci parccl of land
cansisting of appr~ximately 3•~~~~ Acres located aoutl~ and west of the southwest corner
of Y.atella AvunuQ and W~st Street~ and further described as 111Q West Katella Avenue
(Inn of Tomorrcaw). ~rnpe~ty presently classiFied CR (COMMERCt11L, RECREATtON) ZONE.
CONDITIOt1l1L USE PCRMIT RL2UEST; TO PERMIT 0~+-Sl-LE OF ALC011(1LIC ~EVERAGES IN AN
EXISTING MOTk.L WITfI WAI!lEli OF MINIMUN NUMBER Oi' PARKIN~ SPACES.
There was no one tndicat(n~ thelr ~rNSence in c~ppositi~n to sub~cct roquest. and
althauyh thc staff rcporc was not rcad~ tt is r~ferred to and ma~ic e part of the
minutes.
Jt~mes SC~voll~ 1110 West Katelia~ statect he w~uld Itkp a lounhc at the Inn of
Tortwrrow; that oriyinall~~ therc were 17E~ ~Rrt:ing spnces~ but further revtew Indicates
additionol parkiny for a CocA1 of 222 spar,~s.
71iC Pl,liLlG IiEARIt~G WAS CLOSCD.
Commissioner Fry pointed out the staff rr.nc~rt Sh~uld be c~rrected to shc~w the hours
of o~crAt(on frc~m 10:0~ e.m. to 2:d~ n.m.
!t was noted thc Planning Direct~r or his ruthorizPd re~rescntative has dete nninr.d
that the praposed proJect f~lls withln the defint;ton of Cate~orical Exemptions,
Class 1, as defincd in paragraph Z of the Ctty of An~heim Environnantal Impact Report
Guluclf~es and is~ tl,ercfore~ categorically exempt from the requir~ment to prepare an
EIK.
ACTtON: Cammissioner King otfer~ed a motion~ soconded by Cortmissloner Fry and hSOT1~N
CARFtIEU (Commissloner Herbst be(nc~ abse~t) ~ that the Anahelm City P1Annlnc~ Cammlss~on
dce~ hereby grant tlie waiver af ca~e re~uircment on ttu basis thet the re4uest is
minimal and a~crtain percentayc of g~ests arr~ve by t~ansportrtion modes other than
private autcmiobllc.
Commissioner Kinc~ affercd Resolutlon Mo. PCa'1-239 and moved f~r Its passege and
adoption th~t thc Anaheim City Planning Conemission clocs herzby g~ant Conditional Use
Permit No. ~152~ subjeCt to Interdcp~rtmental Committce recommendatl~ns.
0~ roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the followin~ vote:
AYES: COMMI SS I ONf.P,S: E~AR~~ES. BOU~S ~ I3U5HQRC, FRY, KI ~~G, TOLAR
NOES: COMF1155101~ER5: NQNE
AdSEfIT: COMh1155IONCRS: tiERISST
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ITEM N0. 1~~: EIR NEGATIVE DECLAMTIAt~ AND CONOITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. Z153t
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PUBLIC NEARINC. OWNER: NORTIIWEST KENDALI PROpERTIES~ 73fA Narth Kand~lt Qrive~
Miami ~ Fin~tda ;315f~. AGENT: F. T. C. INC. ~ ATTN: G~ER BOTICII~ 1~~26 East Katel la
~ anue~ Anahetm, CA 92805. Property desc~ibed as an Irraqularly-sheped percei of
land constating nf e~proximetely ~.G~ acre~ loc~tad at ;1~ Sauth Euclict Street
(Burgor I:Iny Resteurant)~ Pro~erty presently claes(ftud CL (COMMERCIAL~ LIMITEO)
ZONE.
COI~DITIOIIAI USE PERMIT REQUEST: 70 PCRMIT A DRIVk-TNRQURFi RESTAURANT IN T11E CL ZOt1E.
Thorc wss no one Indlcating th~lr presence In ~~nostc~on tc+ sub)ect request~ end
although the steff repo~t wes not reac~, tt Is rcf~rr~d to end nx~de a part of the
minutes.
3~rey Elc-tlch~ Agr.nt. was present to enswar eny qucstlans.
Tt1~ PUULIC lIE11RIHC, WAS CLOSLD.
ACTfON: Commissioncr K.tng offered a rtx~tion~ secundcd by Conxnlssloner Bouaa and
MO ION CAkR1EU (Commtssioner Nerbst betng absent)~ thet the Anaheim City Ptanntng
~ommissicm has revlewnd the proposal to p~err~it a drive-through restaurant in the Cl
(Commercial. ~~nited) Zane on an Irregularly-shaned ~Arcel oi lend conslsting of
epproximately O.f,g acre. having a frontagc of bp(r~oXimAtcly 1;0 feet on the ea~t side
of Euclid Streat And having A n~axtmum dcpth of approxlmately 22~ feet and beinq
located approxir~~tely 340 fect ~outh of the ~enterl tnc of 1~edn+nr Avenue (51~ South
Euclid Street); snd docs hcrcby ap~rove the Negative Declerattun from thc requiremen~
to prepare ~n environmenta) impact report on tht besis th~t there r~c~Uld t~ no
significnnt tndividusl or cumulat.ive advcrse envlronmcntal tmpACt ~iue to the approval
of this Negat(ve ~^claratiai sincr the AnahelM ~eneral Plrn designetes the sub)ect
property for gener~l commercial lahd uses ccxnrne~surate with the proposai; that no
sensitive envlronmental Impacts arc i~volved in thc proposal; thrt the Inltfal Study
sub mttted by tt~~ petittc~nar Indicntes no st~nificant Individual Qr cumularive adverse
envircx~montal impacts; and that the Negacive Declaratto~ substAnttating :he foregoing
findin.ys is cn filc tn the City of A~alirim Planning Uepa~tment.
Cortimissioner Ktng offered Resolution No. PC8f1-2~-~ and movcd for Its psssege and
adoptl~ that tl~e Anaheim City Planning Ccxrrn+++lssio~ does hercby ~rant Condtt(ona) Use
Permit ~lo. 2153~ subjcct to Inte~dEpartmental Committoe retr~mmendations.
On roli call~ the foregciny resolutioi~ Nas passed by the followinn vote:
AYES ; COn~~I S5I Or~ERS: BARNCS ~ BOUAS. BUSNORE ~ FR1r ~ KI NG, t4LAR
N9E$: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSI~NERS: HER85T
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ITEM N0. 15 WA5 HEARG AFTER ITEM N0. 18.
ITEM N0. 15e EIR CAtEGQRICAL 6XEMPt10N-CLASS,.~y AN.O CONDITIOkAI USE PERMIT N0. 2_1~~~:
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PUpLIC NEARING. OWNER: ROBERT EU6ENE AND 511AItON LYNN aENTLEY~ h33 wost Llncaln
Avenue~ Anahelm~ CA 92805. AGENT: GARY SCHRdCDER~ giA North Lemon~ Orango~ C~
92~G7. P~operty described es an irre~ulariy-sl-eped parcml of land consisting pf
spproxin-etaly 2.1 acres~ located ~t the northeesL c~rnar of Lincoln Avenu~ and Narbor
Bouleverd~ and further described es l~l~ North Flarbor Boulevard ~E) Camfno 6usiness
Center). Property presently ciessified CO (COMMER~ti1l~ 4FFICE ANQ PROFESSIONAL)
za~e.
CONDIT14~~111 U5E PCRMIT ftEQUEST: TO PCRMIT TkA FREE-STANDING SIGNS IN TIIE CO ZONE.
it wea nntea tl~a p~titlonnr was not present end Chairmen Tolar felt in all feirness,
the mattar should bc contlnued.
A~TION: Comr,~issionor ~ushore offered a mation~ aeccx~ded by Conmtssioner King and
M ON CARRIED (Conmissloner Merbst belnq ebsent), thAt cc~natderatian of the
afo~ementloned itcm be cor+tlnued to thc rec~ularly-scheduled mreting of J~nuary 26~
1g131 eince che petit~oner was not preaent.
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ITEM N0. 1G: EIR NEGATIVE DECIARATIdN M~tD CONDITIANAL USE PERMIT ~• . 2157t
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PUDIIC HEARING. OWNERt ROVI PACIFIG REAITY COaPOiiAT1AN~ 1t101 Century Perk E+~st~
p I 111 ~ Los Ange 1 e~ . CA 9A~67• p,GE N? s NESTOR M. aUQDY , 7573 Ees t Ca I I e C~a~nada ~
Anahelm~ CA ~12807. P~~p~rty doscrtbed ~s a rectAngularly-sha~+ed parcal of land
conalsttnc~ of approxirrMtely 3.n ecres locatud at th~e northoaet corner of Se~rano
Avenue and Nohl Ranch aoad~ and furtF*~r descrtbed es h~~~ Sarr~no Avenue. ProAe~tv
presently classified CL-IIS(SC) (COMME~tf.IAL, IIMITf:D-NILISIDE SCENIC CORRIDOR OVERLAY)
tONE.
CONDITIONl1L USE PERM17 REQUEST: TO P~RMIT A VETERINARY CLI!IIC IN TNE Cl-NS(SC) ZONE.
There wes nu one Indicating thelr presence in o~positic~n to sub)ect request~ and
although tl~e staff rep~rt was not rcad, (t Is roferred to and rtu~de A pa~t of the
mt~utes.
It was nated thAt this requ~st for o taet cllnlc general ly stems from the study
prevtously submlttt~d by Dr. Buddy rcg~rdinc~ the ratto of housinh units~ pet
populatlon~ etc.
TIIE PUOLIC iIEARING WAS CLOSED.
Chalrrt~an 'folar clArified that this t~raperty Is loca~ted an Nohi Ranch Road and Serrano
anci thet th4re wi I 1 be minimum ~vtrni c~ltit care~ snd al 1 aperetlons are inside the
feciitty.
~~~:T''`~: Commisst~ner Barnes offered a~~+otion, seconded by Commissioner King and
1~i~~~°i ;ARRIED (Commissir~ner Hcrbst being absent)~ thbt the Anaheln~ City Planning
Commission has review~d tF~e proposal tn permlt a veterint+ry cltnlc in the CI.-HS-(SC)
(Gommnrciai~ Limited-tltlislde/Scenic Co~rid~r Overlay) 2o~e on a rectangularly•shaped
parcel of land consisting of rpproxirrsately 3.n acres. iocated at the nertheast cornor
of Serranp Avenue and Noh) Ranch Roac~ ~ having ~approxin~te. fronteges of ~~85 fQet on
the north slcie of Sarrano Avc~ue and 2r~n fe~t on thc east side of Nohl Ranch Road
(650~ East Serrane Avenue); snd does 1~e~eby epprove the. Negattve Decirratton from the
requirement to prepare an e~v(ronmen zal Impact rcport on the basis that there would
be no signlficant individual or cumulative advcrse environmental impact due to the
approve) of this Negattve Deciarottors sTnce the Anaheim General Plan designates the
sub)ect property for gencral cortrurci dl land uscs co~nsutete wtth the proposai;
that no sensitivic environmenta) Imp~~ ets are involve~ Tn the proposal; that the
I~i;lal Study submitted by the petitioner indtcates r-a stgnlfSca~t indlvidual or
cumulative adverse envtronmrntai tmp ac[s; end that th e Neqetive Declaretlon
aubstentioting the forc,qoing finding s(s on file tn th e Ctty of Anaheim Planning
Oepartrtr.r, L.
Commisstoner t)a~rnr4 offerCd Resolutton No. PCBA-2G1 and moved for lts passage and
ed~ption that the Anaheim Gity ~la~niny Commtsslen d~s heret+y gr~nt Condittonal Use
Permlt No. 2157~ s~bject to Interdcpartmental Committ~e ~ecommendati~ns.
On roi l c~l l. the foreqoing r~salutivn rrss passed by +the fol laving vote;
AYES: COMMISSIQt~ERS: BARHES, 60UAS, BUSNORE, FRY, KING. '1'OLAR
NUkS: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABS~tIT: COM~IISSIONERS: NERBST
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ITEM NOY17; EIR NEGATIV~ DECLARATION AND VARIANCE N0. 31~33t
PUaIIC HEARiNG. OWNERt RODERT C. AND FRMlT.A R. VELTRI~ 227 Nilic~e~t St~eet~
Anaheim, C A~2a0~. Property descrlb ad aa an Irre~ulariy•shaped ~rrcel of land
conslating of approximntely ~.35 ac~e~ lecated at 227 Nt Ilcrest Str~et~ Property
preacntly clasalficd RS•7?~~ (RESIDENTIA~., SINGLE-F~MILY) ZONE.
VARIMICE REQUEST; WAIVERS OF; (a) PERMITTED PRIMARY USES~ (b) MINIMUM FLOOR ARCA~
(c) MININUM FRONT YARO SET~AG K, (d) MINIMUM REAR YARQ SETDACK~ (e) MAXIMUM FENCE
HEICHT AND (~) MINIMUM NUMBER OF PARY~ING SPACES TO RETAIN TWO D4IELLINC UNITS.
There wore twn persone i nd 1 ca t i ng the i r prr.sencG I n oppos i t 1 on to sub )ect request ~
and elthough the staff report wos not rcad~ it Is rcferrcd to and mede a part of the
minutes.
Robert Veltri~ 227 Illllcrest. Anal~elm Hilla~ stated he Is re~~~esting this variance
ber.ause lie li~s to care Fpr hi s clderly ~arents who are beth very t I i and he does not
wAnt tn put his them Into a eonvalesent home; thr+t he built thts S51.0~~ structure
which c~nnot be seen frnm tl~e street; bccause there ere Italian Cypress trees al)
around It; that this Is an unusual 1/2 acre flot lot In Mahctm liills rnd that he
origint~lly had no intention of doinh this ond I~nd plented fru(t t~ecs~ etc.~ but thts
is someChing that has to bc aona.
I i~ne Myl~ro~ 225 ~~111~rest. stated hcrs ts the adJacent lot; end that w-~en
constructton began o ttic s eeond structurP at 227 Nillcrest Strcet~ she wes told by
Mr. Veltri that a tx~ol or rcereatlon hause was being constructed. She stated it was
not unti 1 much later tllen shc was inforr~eA t~~At a s~cond home Nas betnq constructed
for Mr. Vcl[rl's elderly perc nts wha necded nursing care; that she spoke w(th the
builder~ Robert Deer~ who said that ttiis couid be done (f the ~.(tchcn was put in
after inspcctton and that this -~as thc incr.ntlon nf the Veltris. She stated she wes
shocl.ed that tl~oy would be yetttn9 away with havin~ a second fomi ty hane on one lot
In this nciyhborhood and that shc dld attr.m~+t at that timc to find ~ut if anythinq
could be c:one. She st~ted n~evious construction I~as i:-tcrf~red with the p~op~r
drainage p,ittern wt~ich has a dlrect effect an her nroperty; and that Mr. Velt~l has
indicated this past week tf~at (f this is not ~ppraved~ additionel constructioR would
be done Jaining the twa tiomes which would constitute a single-fnn-ily I~ome.
Ms. Myhro stated sl~c would 1 ik~ to sce that additional co~stru~tion d~es nat occur
and that tf~e existing structurc is ncver us~d t+s a rcnt~l to family members or
otherwise and thr~t if the praperty (s sold that the natu~e of the sccond buitding be
chenged or the structure rer~oved entirely. She stated tfie strucure was not butlt to
be acsthetlcally in line with ocher homes in the area and obstructs views of other
neighbors and changes thc ge ncral atn~snhcre and nature of the stngle•family home
neighborhood and could possibly changc the valuG of other homes. She stated the
inguiries she made in the p ast did not glve her any clear directions to fallow to
oppasc the construction and usc of this struc,turc and sh~ is nleased she now has the
Ghance to ask that condittc~r~s be placed on the future use ~nd nature ef this
building. She stated she is in cnmpltte~ sympathy wich M~. Veltrll taking te~e of his
parents; that the structure is there and xhc cloes not mtnd that it stays the~e for
now as 1 ong es tl~ese cond i t i c~ns a ~e p 1~,ced on i t.
Charles Malmtstcr, 23~ Franciscc, Piace~ dlrectiy bet~ind the Yeltr~ property~ stated
when this constructlon stArted he canplained bitterly to the Bullding Depa~trnent s~d
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was told Mr. Veltri hed permits; that the Valtrl tot is approximately 8 feet hiqher
~hAn ~djacent proparty and the sCructure ii 1~ feet hiqh end ht~s no windows so 1t is
a tarriblo looking structure overhanginc~ their bocky~rd; thet he ~aid extra for the
vlaw and now hAS no view; that oll the requests he hes heard tontqht havo bee~ othe r
peopla asking to do things~ but this ~ottttoner has already done th~se thinqs end now
is ~skinc~ permission to ledve them end he did not understand haw this heppen~d. Ile
stated the housn is located ciase to the prUperty Itnes ~nd Mr. Veltrt ca11s it e
canvorted bath house~ but it nove r wes a b~th house.
Mr. Veltr) stated he had politely gone ~ver and talked to Mr. Malmister's son; that
Mrs. Malmister has a nervous condition and the ctty representatives had asked htm to
tall: with them and that he has ncvcr had eny troubi~ wlth his ncighbor~. tle stated
ttiis structure wAS planned as a b ath house and no stove or garbege dtsposAl was
pl~nned and he wanted to build a nlce structure; that the gentlemen behind them can
only see the top of the raof; tt~at he anreed t~ plent whatever the nelghbors wanted
and they were h~pry at thet time; that tl~e Itc~ltan Cypr~ss t~ees wll) grow fest and
cover the whole slde; thot L~~e nefghbor on the othe~ slde cannot eNen see the house;
end that the drainage yoes out the driveway and h~s nothinc~ to do wlth Ms. Mtyhro's
property; and th~~t she is talking about his pool which floods when it ratns; that hc
told h~r she could have har contractor dic~ un hfs sldc~ buc he Is not going to pay
for it boc~usQ (L I~as nothing to da with him; that the pool house Is completely
ncstled in thc bac~; and everything was done eccording to plans anc! the only thing he
did was mov~ ~~is folks in. Nc stated his parents have a ib-hour nurs~ who stays all
day. Ne statcd in the past he cbneted property tn eve ry onc of his neiqhbors all ttie
way up to corrcct ~ problen-.
Tt1E PUE3LIC NEARI~~f, WAS GLOSED.
Chairman Tolar steted the petitloner contractcd co huild r S5~.~~~ bnth house in hTs
backyard and asked if Mr. Vel[ri was Aware of ttie zoning ~equirtmencs that only one
1lving unit is permitt~*d on tlia ~ropcrtY.
Mr. Velt~t stated he was toid tt~at if he h~d the structure attac~ed to hts house~
there would nc~t bc a problem.
Dean Sherer, Asslstant Planner~ stated essentiaily if thc petitt~n~r wanted to attach
a rnom to hls hausc, he would not bc allc~red to excecd lot wveragc and other code
requirements; that this was originally approved as an accesso~y structure and it met
code requirements~ but as soon as the k(tchen w~s install~d~ a varlanct was required
to rctatn ft as a dwelitng unit and these wafvers bec~me necessary. Ile stated the
bullcSin9 perr~its were for a bath h~use but nav the kitchen unit has been added.
Mr. Veltri stated they werc originally told by city representatives th~t blood
relatlves could live i~ tha structure, but later informed htm he could not do (t;
that he then toAk the inftiativc on hfs own to construGc e bath house without a
kitchen a~d the intcntion vr~s not to havc a kitchen and his wife w~a going to bring
th~ food co his folks, but they got so bAd they had to havc a full-tin+e nurse and she
ts ther~ from Fa:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and has to do everything for them and that is
why thc kitchcn w~s installed.
Commissianer Bushore stated the ~srnblem is there end the only thing ta do is work ~ut
an amicabie solution to abate rhe problem. Ne asked i'` thare is any way to
motle~ that the problem be abeted in two years.
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Jack White, Assist~~t CftY Attorney, ~tatsd the situation currently constitutes a
zaning vlolatlon which constltutes ++ crime and anyone cAn place an ~ctlon agatnst the
petitl~n~r~ Ne ~dded the Commisslan cannat set a two-ye~r period to correct an
tllogal usQ of the property~ Ne stated if this we~~ a condittonel u~e permtt~ tt
could be granted for a time perl~d~ but a ve~l~nce is fo~ devl~tions of the
reyulatla~s thst are goinq to remaln permanent and cannot bo qranted for a llmtted
period of time.
Chalrman Tolar ssked w-~y this is a rcquest for a veriance rather than a condltlona)
us~ permit and Dean Sherer explolned staff felt A vs~tence was logical becduse of the
waivers required; and in the past chet a simtlar request fo~ a duplex on Thorntan
Avanuc wes advcrtised as a conditional use permtt~ but the Commi~slon wented it
advertiscd as a varlance and based on that fact and the fact this 1s ~ land related
type usa. it was declded a verlance would be approprlate.
Responding to Chairman Tolar's questlon as to hc~w n structure was allowed with a 3'
foot setback, Doan Shorer explained the plans were originAlly appraved as a detached
accessory butlding and the setback requirements are different.
Jock White explatned the deterr.~ination whether to edvertise a variance or conditional
use permtt is not a mattcr of staEf discretlon; thet thcrQ arc legal guideltnes to
follow; that tf the request (s ~or a use not authorixed In the zone, then a
cond(tional use permit Is necessary~ t~ut thts is a restdsnti+~l use in a residenttal
zo~e and is perrnitted; encl that thts re~uest pertains to the number of resiclenttal
units on tl~e property.
Commtssioner Bushore questioned the comroents t!iat these structures could be ,Jalned
without any p~oblrm. Mr. Velt~l stated hG was told by city staff that he could have
added an nddltion to his residence wtthout any probier~. Ne stated he would not ~ent
this st~ucture and it is for his parents And not his ct,ilelren.
Chairman Tolar stated he has a lot of emr~thy and c~rcern for what Mr. Vcltri is
trying to cio with his parents, but was concerned that realistically this would be
enather strutture permitted by approvai of tt~e variance wh(ch would be an Ideal
second residence on the ~roperty for his children or anyone else. tle stated he
uncierstands the hardstiip and would support it far a given period of time~ but the
varia~ce process does not perrnit time ltmits.
Cammissloner Bushore stat~d the onty alternative he sees is deniai oP :hc request and
allowing a re~sonabte plan to abate the problem.
Commissianer Bouas asked if the kitchc~n can be removed or if the nurse can use the
Veltri's kitche~. She also asked who stays with the parents at night.
Mr. Veltri replied his residence is S~ feet from the second structufe; that khe nurse
is there f~om E:00 a.n. to 7:3o p.m.; and that there is an emergency bell which his
father can use if they need anything at night.
Commissianer Qushore asked why the declslon was made to call this a bath house since
it was placed so far away from the poot and stated the ideal locatlon for a bath
hous~ probebly wauld have been north of the existtng slab.
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Mr. Veltrl replt~d this wat the bs~t lvc~tlon on the prope~ty becausc it cannot be
see~.
Commissianer K1ng steted Mo opponents say it can be se~n.
Chairman Tolar stated ~he structu~e ia alroady located where it is and the problam
has to be de~it with; th~t Jack Whtte t~as suggestad iF the Commtsslon wishes to Arant
this requea~t. that stipulatlons be made by the petitioner thot the strueture only be
uaod as ~n accessary guest house for a maxtn+um of two yeArs with no rent~al or sale of
the sec~nd unit~ or lot spiit~ and that tt be rcvtewed in two years; that this is
really the "milk of human kindness" and the kitchen r+ust be removeci at the end of the
two years. lie statad he has a problem esking som~one to remov~: a SS~,Q~O structu~e
encl alsa he has a problom deating with th~ reason for the construction of this
strucCuro and understands; but that it does not neclete the fact that in this city
there are probabiy thousands ~f structures which c~uld be used in the same ma~ne~ and
the reasoning ln thfs sttuntion does not valtdate bullding A second structure on a
single-family lot. He stated the use docs affect the nelghborhood in an adverac way
and is a vtolation o` the tr~tent of thQ cude, He stated~ hawevcr~ he would support
lt for two yer+rs, assuming ~11 the other conditlons and stlputatlans mentloned a~e
mnt.
Mr. Veltri stated hc would yo along wlth the condttions and stlpulatlons, but asked
whot he would do et the cnd of two years if hc sttll needs this structure for hts
parents.
Chairman Tolar replled hc u~uld request a~ extenslon. He steted if cveryane works
tagather~ they can keep this~ an extremely nice ncighbo~hood~ brt if something lika
this causes an 111 effect on thc neighbors. the structure should not be there,
regardiess of the reasons.
Mr. Veltri stated la netghbc~rs offered to come and soeak (n favor, but he did nat
thlnk it Nould be necessory~
Commissioner Fry asked abou~ the orainege p~oblem. Hr. Veltrt rrplied tha drainsge
comes from above and out his drivaNey and tt has not chang~d.
Commissio~er ~ry asked Ms. Myhro to explatn the drainage n~oblem. Ns. Myhro atated
her property ~s 5 fcet lowCr than Mr. Veltri's and with thc sidewaik~ patio~ bath
house, pool, decking. ter.nis court~ shuffleboard~ etc.~ there is no place for the
rain to go and that sl~c had tt~e drainage problem uefore the secand structure was
buiit and (t is Just increasing.
Chalrman 'toi~r asked if there is anythtng Mr. Velir! can do to ~Iteviate the drainaga
problem~ such as instal 1 ing dratns~ etc.
Mr. Velirl stateJ the new st~ucture hed nothing to do wlth Ms. Myhro's prablem and
the problem is the paol since her property is lawer and the wall was not
watarpraafed~ so wster does ga onto her property when the pool overflows.
Ms. Nyhro stated she shauld not have water in her yard bacause Mr. Veltri's pool
overflows and they have tried to weter proof th~ir side of th~ wall to prevent
seepege.
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Nr. Valtri statod hc h~s info~rt~d Ms. Myhro th~t ~t,e could hir~ a centractor and he
wtil allow them to dig up his side and waterproof the wall and hr thought thet wouid
allevleto th~ problem.
Cha~lrman Tolar statcd he ts suggesting stncc Ms. Myhro understands tho s(tusti~n, and
is w111tng to acc~pt It and wants ce~teln time limit end oondttions, which have been
egreocl to~ that e trade-aff might be to ~e~elvc tha w~ter problem. Commlss{oner Fry
agreed and stated Mr. Veltrl W.nc~-s tt-ere ts a+ prablem now end it Is up ta htm to
carrect it.
Mr. Veltri stated he wi11 do his best tn t+~1:e care of the dreinaqe prc~blem.
Commisst~ner Bushore asked Ma. Myhro if thQre (s ~ parking probl~m on th~t :traet~
polnttng out iie hAJ notlced a IAt of ca~s whe~ he was therc. Ms. Myhro ex~lalned
there Is adQquatc room on Mr. Veltri's~ pro~crty f~r ail his vehicles.
Mr. Veltrl stAted they ha~ve four vehlcles end hAVC 25Q fect far parkfng but no one
excopt the nursc parks on the st~cet.
Cortmissianer Fry ctarifled he does want the petitloner to try t~ take care of the
drainage problem, but wants it takcn c~rc of end did not feel Mr. Veltrt has a
cholce. Mr. Veltri stated he would bring th~ waterpraofing of the wall ~bove the
ground lcvel because It couid be cav~red by l~ndscapinq~ but he cannot stop the
problem of raln water runoff.
Commissioner Bushore stated he knaws of one r.ase wherP two ncighbors had a dratnage
problem and could not comc to an agr~eement a~d the casa endrd up (n court and the
neighbor obave was found Ilablc. ~ie pointed out the petitioner (s asktrg his
~aighbor to tolerate thc water problem and the prnblem of the second strutture and it
does nat appear he is Lrying to work wtth his n~ighbors.
Mr. Melmi~ter stated he has no obJection to Mr. Veltri kee~+ing his parents, but was
cancerned what wouid happen if the property is sold.
Chairman Tolar explained if the propcrty is sold~ the second structure cennot be used
as a residcnce ~nd it cannot be sold or rented a~d the 4:Itchen has to be rert~ved and
the use would be revlewcd in two years.
Jacic White clarified thr variante would not be granted for a tNa-year period. but
that the ~,itchen would havt to be rertavr.d in two years. Ne scaCed the petitioner
should exetute a covenant ta be rec~rded on the prop~erty to the effect that in the
event af sal~ any purchaser would have constructivG notlce thet the second structure
is not a sep~rate dwPlling untt.
Cortmisslaner King suggested a time limit to correct tt~e drainage problem and Jack
4ThiCe suggested a condition to that effect.
M~. Veitri sCated iie wil! pay fc~r a cantr+~ctor tn taG:e cere of the dratnage problem.
AC710N: Chairmen Tolar offered a motion, seconded by Canmissloner Kirtg ar-cl MATIQN
CARRIEO (Commissiane~ Herbst bei~g nbse~t~~ that the Anahetm Clty Planntng Comrt+~ssion i
has reviaved the praposal to retaln tao dwelling units on an R5•72A~1 (Residential, ~:
Sinqle-Famtly ) Zoned lot with waivers of permitted prtrt-s ryr uses. minimum floor area, ;
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NINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSIQt~~ DECEMBER 1S~ 198A 80-789
minimum rear yard setback, maximum fence height, mi~imum number of perktng s~eces on
an ir~egularly-sh~ped of land consistin~ of approximately ~.;5 acre~ havinq a
frantage of ~~~proxlmetely z~~9 f~ct on the northwostarly slde of I~Illcrest Street~
having a maxlmum depth nf spproximetely 151 feet and being I,~cated a~p~oximately 190
feet west af the centerline ~f L~ Paz Street and further described as 227 t1111crest
Straet; and daes hereby approve th~ Negative Deciaration from thc requirement to
prepare an environmont~l Impact rcpc~rt on the basis t-~at there wauld bc ~o
significan~ Indivldual or cumulntive ndvcrse envfronrnent~l Im~~ct due to the epproval
of this Negative Declarattc~n since the Anehelm Gencrel Plan desiqn~tes thc sub,~ect
property far hillside low-dcnsity residenttel I~nd uses cor+mensurate with the
proposal; that no sansttivic e~vironmental Impacts ere lnvolved in tl~~ proposal; thot
the I~itlal Study submitted by tt~e petitianer indlcates no si~ntficant lndlvldudl or
cumulatlve advarse e~~v) ronn+ental Impacts; and tl~t~t the Neelative Declaratton
substAnttottnn thc f~regotng ftndings is on flie In the City of Anahelm Plenning
Departr.~ent.
Chairman Toler offered Resolutton I~o. PC80-242 .~nd movcd for tts passege rnd adoptlo~
that the Anai-etm City Planntng Conmtsslon do~s hereby grant Varl~nce No. 3183~
subJect to the petitloner's stipuldt(on thAi the soc~nd structu~e shall only be used
aa an accessory guest house; that there shall be no sale or rentel of the second
unit; that thc kltchen shall bc removed and thc structurc conve~t~d to a bAth house
at tho cnd of two years or upon sale of tf~e propcrty whithev~r comes first; and that
the property awner shall execute t~ cov~nant to be recorded ~n the tttle so that it
will ylve constructive nottce to Any purchaser that this is not separate living
quarters; that mltlgatton measures st~all be tal;en tc~ s~lve the dr~tnag~ problems
cAUSed by the ~oal, etc, wtth~In sixty (GO) days, and sub)ect to Interdepartmental
Commlttee reccrtnxsndettons.
On roli call~ tha foregoing resclution was pnssed by the fallowinq vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONER5: DARNES, BOUAS, BUSHORE, fRY~ KING~ TQLAR
NOES: COMMISSIOt~ERS: NONE
ABSCNT: COMMISSIOtiERS; NERE35T
J~ck 4lhitc, Assistant City Attorney~ pres~ntcd the wrltten rlght to appeal the
Planniny CoRrntssion's dccision within 22 days to the City Cou~cil.
Cammtsstoner Bushore stat~cl he wauld like staff to revlew the definltlon of bath
housc. lie felt a structure this targe !s more than a bath house~ and maybe the stze
should be itmited.
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ITEM N0. las EIR NECAt1VE ~ECIARATI~N AND VARIANCE N0. 318~~:
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PUaLIC HEARINC. OWNER: RAFAEL ~NO ESTNER fERHAN0E7~ 1S3W Camdan Place~ Fullerton, CA
92G33. Prope~ty descrtbed as ~ r~,Gtengularly-shapcd parcel of lend tonatsting of
approxtmataly ~73l~ sc~uare f~at~ loc.~tcd at 911 North Sabtna Stre~t. P~ope~ty
presently clossifiod RM-Za~O (RESIDEyTiAI~ MULTIPLE-FAHILY) ZO~IE.
VARIIINCE REQUEST: 41AIVERS OF: (a) MINIMUM BUILDINf, SITE AREl1 (b) MINIMUM FLOOR
AR~~, (c) MININUN aEAR YARQ AND (d) MI~~IMUM NUMiIER OF PARKItI.r, SPACES To CONSTRUCT A
DETACIIED SI~IGt,E-F/U11LY OWELLi11G.
There was no one i nc~ i c.it i ng the i r pr~sencc i n o~~+os i t i on to subJ ect request ~ and
alCl~ouah the staff report wAS not reaJ~ it Is referred to and made a port of the
minutos.
Refae) Fernandez~ owner~ was pres~nt to answer any questluns.
THC PuaLIC NEARINr, WAS CIOSED.
Commissioner Bushore asked if thcrc Is a cc~~dltian rcquiring that the extsttng
restdence be braught up to code requirements. Dean Sherer~ Assistant Planner,
rep) i ed that that ts not a recc~+imenciecl cond i t ton ~ but can be added. Commi ss toner
Bushore stated thAt is the only way he cuuld vote for approval of two sepsrate untts
on tliAt lot. lie stated he was concerned and felt mure pnrl:tng should be provided
because there Is already a p~rkinn ~roblem on that strcet and this will ~dd to tt.
M~. Fern~nde: statcd the er.lsting garage will be remc~ved and he did not think there
witl be t~ny parking probtems be~cause there will be a 12' x 5~' driveway with a two-
car garage. plus the space in frant af the c~arage. He steted the parking p~~blem ts
not caused by hls property.
~1r. Fern~~ndez ~esponded to Gommissloner Bushore that there will not bs any plumbt~g
i n t~~e garage.
Commissioner Bouas referred to the minimum rear yard setback and the requirement to
dedicate 10 feet from the center of th~ alley. Dean Sherer expiained that will not
present a probtem because it is an existinc~ setback and he thought that alley has
been i~rovcd.
Mr. Fernandez stat~d the existing structur~ is 54 years old and he was concerned
about brinying It up to code standards.
Commissloner Bushore stateJ he had looked at the h~use and tt is substandard and that
is thc only wa~ he wil) suppc-rt the request.
Mr. Fernandex steted he is not requesting a~ything for the rear house and is mostly
concer~ad with building a front house; that he and the person who drew the ptans
misinterpreted the r.oning and thought all that was needed was 700 square feet and
provided 850 square feet and later found that 12QA squ~rc feet is required.
Ron Thompson, Planning Director, statnd the rcar house would be brought up to the
Hausing Code and not the 8uildinq Code~ whtch would make it safe.
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MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ DECEMBER 1S, 1980 ~•791
ACTION: Commis~loner King offerad ~ motton~ seconded by Commissloner Fry and MOTION
R Ep (Gommissioner liarbst betng absent)~ that the An~helm City Planning Ccmmtsaton
haa ~evlewed the proposal to eonstruct n detached stngle-tnmtly dwellinq wtth wt~ivers
of mintmum building site area, mintmum floor ~~ea~ mintmum reHr yard and mintmum
n~imber of pn~king spaces on a rectengularly-shapcd pa~cel of I~nd consisting of
approxtmat~ly 5~73G squarc feot~ heving a nx+ximum depth of approxlmately 115 feet a~d
baln~ icaceted apnroximately 1~-0 feet south of the centeri Inc of l.e Palmr~ Avenue (~11
Nartt~ Sebina); and does t~ereby approve the Negative Declaratton from the requlreme~t
to p~epare an environmentel Impact rcport on thc basls thAt there would he no
significant Individual or cumulntive aciverse envlronmental tmp~ct dur to the approval
of thls Negat(ve Declaration since tl~e An~helm Genern) Plon d~signAtes the sub_ject
propcrty for med i ur~~ dens i ty i and uses commensurnte wl tt~ thc proposAl ; that no
sensitlvic environmentt~l impacts are involved In the prorasal; that the Initia) Study
submttted ~y tlie ~etitloner indlcatcs ~o si~~nificant Ind(vldual or cumuletive rdverse
environmental tmpacts; and thbt the Negative Declaratton substanttating the foregotng
findings ts on file in thc City of Anahetm Plannin9 Uepartment.
Commisslcmer King offereJ Resolutlon No. PC80-2G3 and rn~ved for its passage and
edoptlo~ thr+t tt,c Anahcim C(ty Plannln~ Commission does hereby yrant Varlance No.
31~31~ on ttir. basis that denial would cieprive subJect property of privlleges e~Joyed by
otlier property owners In the Same zc~nc: and vicinity anel subJect to the existing reer
structure beiny brou9ht up C~ the Housing Code~ aryd subJect to Interdepartmenta)
Commi ttee recor-xnendations.
On roll c~~ll, the foregoing resolution w~s p~~ssed by thc following votc:
AYES; COMMISSIC,~~eP,S: DARNES,
NOCS: COMMISSIONERS: TIONC
AdSENT: COMMISSIOtIt:RS: NERE~ST
I TEM N0. 1
REPO t~D REC011MC~i~ATI0P~5
BOUAS~ auSr~ORE, FRY~ KINr,~ TOLA°,
The following Ret~orts and Recommendations staff reports werc presented but not read:
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 12~3G - Request for terminatian from Mlchael G,
Mack~ Orange Caunty rans t D strict for property at 17l7 East Via Burton
Street.
ACTION: Commissioner King affered Resolution No. PC$0-244 and moved for its
pa- ss~ge and adopti~n that the Anaheim City Plannfng Comnission does hereby
terminate all proceedings i~ connection with Conditional Use Permit No.
12~6.
On roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMI SS I ONERS : BARNES ~ BOUAS, BUSHO~tE ~ FRY ~ KI NG ~ TOLAR
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: HERBST
6. CONDITlONAL USE PE_RMI_T N0. 1359 - Request for extensian of time from leo
r~ eedman~ owner o~ Hyatt ouse Notel~ for property at 1700 South Harbor
6oulzvard (Nyatt Hous~ Notel).
ACTION: Comn(ssioner King offered a motion~ seconded by Coromissioner fry
ana'F~T~`TION CARRIED (Cammissio~er Herbst being absent)~ that the AneheTm City
Planning Commission does hercby grant ~equest for extension of time to
Conditional Use PermtC No. 1359 to expire o~ December 27~ 1981.
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ OECEMQER 15, 1900 8b-792
17~M N0. 20s EIR CATkGORiGAI EXEMPTIOt~-CI.ASS 1 WAIVER Of CQDE RE~UIREME_T1
~iDj'~bf~C US . , ~ • t
PUBLIC HEARING. OHNER: ZLAK~t~ JENSEN AN~ QUIS1', 2081 Business Center Drive~ Suite
1y4~ Irvine~ CA 9271;. AGENT; ROaERT 0. MiCKELSpN, 1~~+ South Gla:sell Strect~
Orange~ CA 92GG6. Prope:rty described es u rectanguta~l~•shap~d pArcnl of land
consisting of approximately 2.'-4 acros loceted at the so~~thwest corner of Cypress
Street and EASi Street, 201 North East Street. Pro~e~ty I.~estntly classified RM-1204
(RES I UENTI AL~ MUI.TI Pl.E-FAMI l.Y) ZQNE.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RCQI~EST; TO PERMIT A ONE-L~T, (~3-Ur11T , 257 AFFOROABI.E
CONUOMINIUM CONVCRSION WITN WAiVCRS OF; (a) MINIMUM LOT AREA PCR OWELLINC, UNIT~ (b)
MAXIMUM SITE COVEaAGE~ (c) MINIMUM FLOOR ARE~, (d) MINiMUM LANDSCIIPED SETBACK, (~)
-tINIMUM RECRE~TIONAL-LEISURE AREA~ (f) PERMITTED ORIENTn,TIUN 0~' sUILDINGS IW D(gl
NINIMUII NUMk;ER A-t0 TYPC OF PARM,INR SPAGES.
There were approximatcly ten persans indicAting their presence in oppositian to
subJect request~ and ~lthou~h the staff ret~ort was n~t raacl, it Is referrad to end
made a part of tl~e minuces.
Bob M) cl:e) san ~ acicnt ~ stateef they h~ave worked wi th thc ~~^~~~~ i n~ Derartment and have
agreed to seil 2!;:; of thc unlt5 in tl~e afforciAblc range a~d ferl the~e untts wlll
appeal to th~ first time buycr, hnpcfully~ Co rt~+ny of tl~e current tenants. E~e
expla(ned they hac' two mcetings with the tennnts in an atteMpt to inform them of the
proposal and liad reiatively sMall attendance at boti~~ and only those opposed to the
proJect were at tiie second me~ting. Mr. MicKelson ex~+lained thts is a new praJect
Just recently fully rcnted and the reaso~~ for tt~is request ~s ecanomics because the
owner is stlll und~r ti~t• constructlon loan process rnd tl~e interest rates have rtsen
drastically and the proJect is ~unning in a serious neg~tlve co~h flow.
Ne stated since this is a new ~ro)ect~ nonc of tl~e tenants have est~blished a long-
tern+ resl~tency tlir.re; and that. they have subm(Lted n prop~isal to assist the tenants
to c:ither buy or ~elocate.
Ne referred to tl~e Conrnu~ i ty Ibus I ng ~cport ~peg~c 2f1 i of the s taf f repo~t)
recorm~ending tf~at eight units rPmain as rPntal units for one ye~r~ four units ~t
~3~3~700~ 6 uhits at 547,10~ and (~ units at S5~+,7~0. Ne stated b~cause the~e are new
units and because of the current ecnnor~ic ptcture~ they do no~ fe~) they can Gnm~ly
with staff's recommendation~ but would retain 12 units Eor ~entals for one year and
provi~l~ 10 one-bed~oam units at SW7~ »~.
Patricia Clancy~ stated s-~e owns and lives at the apartment complex at 3~1 North
Bush; that she basicaliy has no obJecti~ns to condominlums, but feit sure this was
the awner's intention when the units were oriyinally co~structed; thot if
~onuiaminiums haci been ~rtginal{y proposed~ this many units would not have been
allvwed; that single-family residents directly tp the west ob,jectcd to these
apartments and wented condominiums because there is quite a difference with "pride of
ownership". She s:ated there have been raeny problems wtth this proJect. She
referred to tfie recenely approved apartrnent pr~Ject at East and la Palma a~d stated
she feels stronc~ty ~hat if tl~is project is approved for condominiums~ there wiil be
other similar requests. She stated she does not like the wry these developers are
pulliny th~ wooi ove~• the eycs of Anaheim.
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MiNUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ DfCEMaER 15, 198Q 80-793
Mary Ellen Ma~olf~ 21~ Narth Rosa~ stated thesc apartn-ents are right in he~ bsck ya~d
and are still ceusing dratnagc probleme. She stated she fett If these unlts are
cc~nvc~rte~d to condominiums, thnre NI11 be prhblems wtth the number of people llvtng in
thc units; tl~ac cu~rently it is cantrolled by mnn~+~ement. She rr,ferred to ep~rtments
on Cypress where two or tl~ree fI1Rf~) IeS i lve in one unit and v+~s concerned the seme
thinq wtll hap~-cn here. She statcd she aisc+ Pelt this was the awner's o~iginel
(ntont ond that is really wh~t si~c :.bJects tc?.
Pat Clanccy rcFarred ta tti~ PAC cortmittce's recervncndatlon that thls requcst be
denied anJ it was n~ted tf~e Canmisslon did re!celve thAt fnformAtton.
Inez Shellc~ 2on r~orci~ Rose~ st~tod ti~ey I~~ve notse~~ distu~bence, gnrbage and trash
ov~r tl~e fence now and she was cnncern;d t1~at converting these units Co condominiums
wi ll r~el:e tl~e situation worsc.
Len~le Green, tcnnnt in l1p~~rtrnent 1~~, stated he ~attendPd both tenent meetings; that
g0 Jays aFtcr f«11 accu~aney nottcc w~s given of Chis plan t~ convc~t; that
Inf~rm~7tian of thc rnr~#~a inc~nx ~f the tenents in ch{s cc~mplex was presented at the
meetlnr~ ~nc1 he wAS co~cerned tl~et tfie dPVelopc:~ hecf this personal~ confidentl~l
information, lie stated as nffordable un{ts ot SS~~~~'1~~ with~ a~t1-year note far
S~0~00~ at a Cun~.erv~~t~vc• interc5t r~tc of 15$~ tt~r. prlnc.ip.71 rnd Inter~st payment
alone woul~l be $G32.~~ p~r r+~anth~ ~+lu~ t~~xes. insurnnc~ and r+~intr.nnnee assoeintlon
fees. 11e stntca lie is xorry t-~c nwner of t~~e c.on~lex does nnt feel it is in his best
intcrest to ~.cc~ thcse units at this ttmc~ U~,t dtJ nc~t thin~. A rcc~uest t~ canvert 9~
deys after full nccupancy should be ~allaweA and fclt if there ts na ardinance
prohibiting it, onc shoul~i t>e oclopt~d,
Mr. Green referred to [I~e prorosed rrlocation fre af twn ~onth's rent and statecl tt
Is not aclequat~ fc~r rcloc~~+tic~n; conalc)r_rinq first and last month's rent. sccurity
d~rosits~ utllitir.s, etc. t+~ot they will be ~ivrn t-~e first righc of ;~efusel for
units rru~nage~ by Satclitt.e Manage.r~r.~t Conmany and they on~y ha~~e 1~7 units in
Anaheim~ wi[h a long waltlnq list fnr o~r-bedre+or~ units and ane avallable two-bedroom
uni t at tl~e prescnt ttrnc.
Mr. Graen stated it scems unusual that the c~wner wants to convcrt these units due ta
cconomics. yct has indicatcd a willing~ess to carry a second trust deed for the
tenants.
Mr. Grcen presented slgnatures af otherS who could not be presr.nt and obJect to thts
cdnverslo~.
Mr. 111ckelson referred to comr-~nts of the op~sition that they dicf not ltke the w~y
this is bcing handied and explained hc has discusscd thts witli the owner and they
intended to buiid an aparcment project and malntr~ln it as nn (ncome source, but
economic thAnyes have happened quicl~ly recently. Ne stated he felt the term
"condominiu~' is a form of ownershln and not design and iP thts proJact had been
developed to Che condominium standerds~ the units would sell for y1S0~On0 to $200.OA0
i nsteed of thc propascd $75 ~OQO to S~4,OQf1.
Mr. Mickelson stat~d the, dr~7inaye is a problem and it has been discussed wtth
Engineering and te was t~ieir recommendation that the nuisance water be pun+Qecf to East
Street and that salution Is acceptable to them. He expleined Chere is a sump and
storm water is pumped out and is ciea~ water~ but the problem is during the dry
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MINUTES~ ANANEIM CIIY PIANNING COMMISSION~ DECEMOEit 15~ 1980 80'79W
seaaa~s ~vF~en landsceptny is sprinkled~ atc. ~nd silt Is pumpe:d into the gutte~ e~d
settle~. ~!a stated thGy will change thac situatton by putting ~+ lerqer pipe ever to
Edst Stroct.
Mr. Mtc~:eison steted h~ belleved Individurl ownership of cnnAc,miniums wtth e
hamaowner's esaociation is a better situatton beceuse t1~e rasidents are permanent snd
the turn-over rete Is much lowcr.
Fie stated they heve essured the Housin~ Dapartment thet no one would h~vr. to relo~ate
until August 1961 bacausc it Is im~osstble to prnccss the ~roJect eny faster and they
enttcipAte it will teF:e longer.
T11E PUI3LIC HEAR1~~~ WAS CLOSED.
Commtssioner dushore refcrred to prcvtously-approvGd Affo~dable heusing units and
polnted out thls request is far a density bonus af 11~+~~ and only ?.r~3, of the units
ere oFfr:red as affnrd~~bi~ units and in other situatlons as much as 1~t12 of the units
was oP f er~~! as af ford.~b 1 e and I n~anr s I t unt i ons , thc un 1 ts arc new and not
converslons.
Mr. ~ltckels~n explained tt~e ~5~ figure wAS tt~c guidclines cltwen h(m by the Nousing
Qe{~artmeni and a~reed that tl~esy ar~ only offerin~ wt~at is Absolutely nccessary. 11e
stated they are in a ftnancial situation of rwt being able to offcr more units ~s
eff~rddblc.
Commisstoner B~shore stated hc ~ioes not llke conversi~ns, but would rather sse a
newer building converte.i. fie clarlfled il~at the mar~ket prEce for this proJect as an
apartn~ent is ap~+roxin~ately $3-~~~~nno a~d SLAL~ci I1C falt the entire proJect could be
offere~ as affordable units. and a ccrtaln ;~ercentage at the L0~ or betc~w of inedtan
incorn~s and th~ owner could make thc necessary profit.
Jack Wh~te, Assistant City Attc,rney~ explained provisihns of CovernmentCt3de Section 65915
pertaining to density bonuses f~r affo~dAble hnusinc~ is n~t ap~llcable to
conve rs i ons ~ and app 1 i es to ncti+ -ious i ng ; ha~reve r~ tt~e Comm 1 s: i on may f f nJ tha t a
certatn amount of low or mc,derate incon~e ls nece~sary but still must make the
findings for approval of these waivers unc.~er existing zoninc~ codes.
Chairn~an Tolar statcd these are the same owners who develflpcd the property as ~n
apartment cortiplex; that the current candominiuin ordinance is outd~ted and it is
possible morc than 15 u~its would have bcen p~ermitted if it had been developed as a
canck,minium con~plex. Ne stated hs did not be:lieve the owners had built 63 units
without having dnne a marketing survey (n that area and thought they receg~ized then
what their cash flcwv wouid be and the apartmcnc complex was their determ{natto~. Ne
stated the Planninc~ Commissfon is gotng to have to ccxne to grtps with the p~oblam of
creatinet afforJable housing; that approva) of these canversions for affordable
hausiny is e{iminattng rental units; that the Cornnisston has been pretty liberal in
their attitude toward condominium canve~sions~ but ayreecl that the new apartment
p~o,Ject on La Palma wlll be the next converston request and stated he dld not think
the owners could iive with making the proJect 100~ affordable.
Commissioner Tolar stat~d he would take a hard look at any futurc conversions in this
city~ end does not a~ree that new rental untts shoutd be c~nverted and felt the older
structures built under Rreviou^ co~~s could be braught up to existing codes 4~y
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY rLANNINC COMMISSION~ QECEM9~R 15~ 1~80 8~1~795
canversinn He stated he could nat su{~port i condominium conversi~n on thls praperty
and doos not think it would be tn the beat interust ~f the city. Ne feit rentsl
untts will make a corneback. He stated rueii~tic~lly he cannc+t support an~thcr
condominium convRnton under thr guise c.' affo~dnhle housing end felt this city hes
done tts fatr shere tciwards creAting affo~dable houstng as mandated by th~ state and
felt convarting e good rental project (s far and ebove whet tt requlred.
Chotrn~an Tolar com~lirn~nted Mr, Mic~clson and stated he felt he had done a ntce Job
by talking to the t~nants~ etc. Ne stated. f~owcver, he cauld n~t support the
pr~Jcct, even If It werr. 10~? aff~rJt~bin.
Lomr~isstoner Fry .~greed with Chafrmen Totar. tie statad he Iikes t~ kQep government
anJ bur~ ucrac:y out of privat~~ enterprise~ but thnre are tlme~ such as thts when
furtt~cr review st~~ula be ylven because he cAn foresec trouble wtth Jevelopers
buil~inr; apartments and subseyuently within 9~ c~flYS requestinq conversion. Ile asked
staff ta lorak intn thc edvisabllity ur feasibility of a regul~ition to ~rohibit the
c~nverslon ~f new unirs for 1 ye~r after Notiee a( Com~letian is filed, or something
simllar.
~ir. Mickclson respanc~d to Cormtssinner dA~nc4 thAc with the prime interest r~te ~+t
2'1~~ it 1s almost 1rt~ussible to 9et a tAke aut lonn; anJ th.~t thc owner currently h~s
a construction loari wlth a flaattng Interest rate ~t 3-1/2a n-~ove {~rlme. He stated
that was onty niven as a rc:-sun os Lo why th~ oamr.r Is rsquesting a converslon.
Mr. Mickelsnn stated mast builclers of apartments nre ex~cting e short-term negative
cash flow anct are looktng for inflation or low interest lonns to bail them ou~. lie
stateci he sh~res the cancern that rrntal sLoc4: is being ~educed~ but after consulti~g
on over ?~0~~ proJccts in th~: last twa yer+rs. hes fnund ~Oo of the buyers come from
apartn~ent 1 iving; anc! that many pcopte arc only Iivin~ tn r+partments unti 1 they can
afforcl to buy thcir own unil.
Mr. Mlckelson s[atc~d they are wi ~ l ing to w~rE: wlth staff to try and provTde more
affardablr. units.
Commisstoner Darnes felt thc:se units couid be canvcrted very ea;ily to make good
living untts; bu~ that sl~e is concerned about elirninotin~ apartments. She felt some
cr i teri a l s needed to s tart denyi ng these requests . She stated she 1 s concerned
about ~roviding more affordable untts. but was also concerned that somet tng may
ha~~pen and these unl ts wi 11 "~o d~rnhi t 1."
Chairman Tolar stated he felt tiic units wili ~otbe neglected and will be maintained
to protect 'he avners investmrnt and he fel t this p~oJect is far ~emoved fron
a-,y rr~ i ~~ e 1 se tt~at has been ~pproved.
He stated he is not oppnsed to ylving the petjtloner additionai timc to try and
provide more ~ffordabie units, but that he ~rould not sunnort this condominium
conversion even if it is 100$ affordable. He felt these conversions under the guise
of "affordable housing" havc to stop somewhere and poinced out in arder for a
purchascr ta qua) ify for on~ of tt~ese $4~+,~40 units, he wrouid have to earn in excess
of $2~~n0U. Ne stated a lot of people need rental units who cannot afford those kind
of payments.
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CiTY PLANNING CONMISSION~ DECEMBEa 15~ 19$0 80-79b
Commitsloner Barnes atated the Ctty of Orenge aska dev~lopcrs to •ubmtt lists of
avetlsble resntal un~ts and felt thst would be helpful ~n the t~nents who live In
these untts would knvw where they cAn relocete.
M~. Mtckelsan stntad he would be ht~p~+y to submlt this type Informatton~
Commissioner Bushore st~t~d ona month ego the Conxniss ian henrcf e renuest for a 12-
ye~r o1J apartmont c~nvr.rsion on Le Palma and he had volced the seme concerns on that
projoct that Chnirmen Toler and Commi~stoner Fry hnve volced on this ~ro)act; that he
d I d not wan t a pA 1 nt-up ~ f i x- up condom) n t um conve rs t on and wan ted to see n q tui 1 I ty
eo~vorsion, but went along wtth thet for affordable housing; d~d that he loaks At
this as beinc~ a good converttbla proJcct b~c~use It fs new.
He falt Lhe pr~~Ject can be 1A0$ affordabl~e ~ncf would ylve the Commissfon the tool to
prevont thls In the futurc and tf they ar~ 1~~1; effordable~ the g~nora) publ ic wi) l
berreftt. He sceted tie felt a conttnuance to January 2G~ 1981, woulcl be only falr to
allow the dcsvel~per an op~rtun(ty to revise th~ nlans~ ~le encourAg~d Mr~ Mickelson
ta work furtt~er wtth Housing and try to providc 10~~ affordrbt t ity end to ~rovlde
sort+~ unlts below the H(l;; medtan.
Mr. Green eskeci thet the c~ntinuance be lon~~cr in orcler th~t Mr. Mlckelson ean
e~ntinuc to notify the tenonts nf the ~lans.
Conxnlssioner Qernc~s expiained no ncw notices wi 1 I be sent out Ca tenants end askad
tl-ose prescnt to n~tl fy other tenants. Comm(sstoner E3ushcire su~gesttd cene~ts cal 1
the Planning Dep~rtnent on the day af the hearinc~ to make sure the develaper has not
roquo5ted anntl~er co~tlnuarsce.
Mr~ Mick~lson asked that the mattcr be continued unti i February q~ 1q81 because he
plans to be out of town on January 2Gth.
ACT10t~: Conr~lssioner 6ushore offered a m~tion~ seconded by Commtssioner B~rnes and
MOTION CAaRIf.D (CommlSS(oner Nerhst being absent) ~ that eonsicierat(c~n of Condltlona)
Use Ne ~mi t Ilo. 21 ~~~ and 7entat 1 vc Map of Tr~ct Na. 1 1 313 be cont I nued to the
~egulnrly-scl~eduled meeting of F~bruary ~t~ 19~1 at the request cf the petitioner~
AUJOURNMfNT Thare being no further busine~s~ Coramiss ion~r King affered a m~tlon~
seconcled by Comnissioner 8arnes and MOTION CARRIED (Commissiener i~erbst
being absent), that the Planning Commiss ten does hereby cancel its
regularly-scheduled rtweting oP December 29~ 19R~, and adJaurn this
meeCing to the next regulariy-schcdulyd meeting of January 12, 1~81~
The mceting was adJourned at 9:20 p.m.
Respectfully s~mttted~
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Edi th L. Har~is , Secretary
Anaheim City Planning Cortmission
E~H:Im
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