Minutes-PC 1982/03/08Civic Center
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REr,ULAR NEET I NG AF THE ANNIE I M C 1 TY ~.AH1~1-Ir• Cc1MM I SS 10-1
RECULAP, The regula~ meeting of the An~+hetM City P1!ln~l~~ Canmts~to~
MEETING was cailed to orde~ by Chelrman ~ushore at 1~:0~ a.m.~
M~~ch 8~ 1^~32~ in the Counci I Chember, a quorum being p~esent.
and the Commisston revtQwed ptans af thr. items on today's agenda.
Recess: 11:00 a.m.
Rec~nvene: 1:3f1 p.m. for pubi(c testimony.
pRESENT Chetrman: Dushorc
Commtssioners: Darnes. Bouas. Fry~ tierbst, King~ McBurncy
AaSE!IT Commissinners: NONC
ALSO PRESENT M nike Santalahtl Assistent Dircctor for T.aninq
Jeck 4!h 1 te Ass tstant C1 ty Attorney
Jay Titus Offtce Ennineer
Paul Singer Trafftc EngtnRer
Mary McCloskey Assistant Planner
Dean Sherer Assistant Planner
Ed1tfi Fia~rts Pl~anning Ccxnmissl~n Secretary
PIEDGF. OF ALLE~IANCE TO TNE F~Af; LED BY - Commisaloner 1lerhst.
APPROVAL OF NINUTES - Comntssioner King offered ~ motion~ secanded hy Conimissioner
ouas sn NO ~CRRIED, thet the mtnutes of the meeting of Fehruary 22, 198?.~ be
epproved es submitted.
ITEM H0. 1: EIR NEGATIVE DECIARATION RECI.ASSIFICATIAN N0. 81-a2-13 WAIV~R 0~' C
O~T. ND N E M 0. ~1. N . .
on no . ~ r :
PUBLIC NEARING. OWNER: EPMiN li, 41. AND WERA P. KERSTEIt~ 1f197 Ino Obrero Avenue, P.
0. Box 5-73b. Gusdsi~Jara~ JAL. Mexico and ~RANfE C~t1NT1' ~100D CONTROL DISTRiCT~ c/o
County nf Ora~ge Envtranmental Agency, Division af Aeguiation, P. 0. Box 4048~ Sa~ta
Ana~ CA 92702. P~operty dastribed ~s a rectanqulerly-sheped psrcel of t~nd
consisttnq of spp roximately 2G(? feet on the south stde of Crescent Avenue,
approxtmstely 33t1 feet west of the c~nterltne af Broakfiurst Street.
RECLASSI~ICATION REQUESt: RS-A~b3,0A!1 TQ RM-3AA(1.
CON01710NAL USE P.E~2UEST: TO PERMIT A 1-LOT, 3E•UNIT, 45-FOOT tiIGH~ CONDOMINIUM
SUBpIVISInN WITH WAIVERS OF: ta) MININ~IH BUILDING SITE AREA, (b) MAXIMUM STRUCTl~RAL
HEICNT~ (c) MiNIMUM L.ANDSCAPE~ SEYBACK. (d) MiNIMi1M SIDE YARD SEYBACK. (e) MINIMUM
RE~REA1"tON-LEISURE AREA AND (f) REQUIRED TYPE AF PARKlNC SPACES.
Subject petition wss continued fran the meetings of January tl~ end 25, and February
8, and 22, 1982.
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MINUTES~ ANNIEIN CITY PLANNINC COMMISSION~ M~rch ^, 1qR? a2-11A
There was one persan indicating her presence tn ap-~osition to subJect request~ and
although the staff repo~t was not read~ tt (s referred to and made a pa~t of the
mtnutes.
Chel~msn 8ushore rellnqul~hod the CHAIR to Chalrman Pro Tempore Fry.
Alex aelle~ State-Wide De~elop~ n, stat~d they have ~evtsed the plans as recommended
st the prevlous meeting end prosented en axhibit~ p~lnting out the density has boen
reduced from 3~ to 3G units and by elimineting the 3 unita on th~ westerly t~ortton ~f
the property~ they have provid~d a bedmintan court~ incr~asinc~ the recreational-
'eisure eren and have als~ decreASed the slde yer•d wAlver ~e~uested nnd increased thc
amount of lendsceping and provtded nare grecn belt nrea wtth IArner moundinh for
screening. 11e expiained the density waiver request~d ts approxtmately 2Q° end the
~ecreational-letsu~e area has been tnc reased from 57~ square feet t~ 775 square feet
per unit.
Mr. aolle steteci thcY rne~ntioned ~t thc prevlous meetin~ thnt thty were in
neqotiatlo~s with the Fiood Cont m 1 0lstrict regarding coverlnc~ the channel And are
recommend t nc~ mound t ng ~+~d dense 1 a~ndscapt nct ( ns tend ; h~+eve r~ they have not conc 1 uded
thetr negotiatians but fee) opttmistic that cavering will nnt be necessa ry. He
referred to Paqe 1-t of the staff raport. Condltton No. 3~ an:i Condtti~n No. 17 on
Page 1-k pertelnlnc~ to the rtc~ht-ef-way ag~eement between the developer an~1 th~
Orange County Flood Controt District~ praviciing for the reconstr•uction of the Carbon
Creel: Channe) on sub.Ject pro~~ty as an undergmunA condui t. E~e stated the
constructEon of ~uct~ a conduit serves no purpose and landscaninc~ would be more
attractlve. lie asked that the~e c~on~itti~ns be m~dtfied and subject to the mandate of
the Flood Control District.
Rita Ray~ 1927 Chotoau, indicate~i her conrern that if thts is ~pproved~ even thoueth
it wlli not affect anyone. since there are no reslciences nearby~ It will set an
undesirable preccdent for simllar future requests.
Nr. Belic stated hc doubted there has ever betn a hard and fest rule r.hat upon
Justtfi~ble circunstances c~ulcf n~t be modtfled acc~rdingly e~d noted eve ry condttion
ltsted on Page 1-e~ paragraph 27 (A-E) has been met.
TNC i'UBLIC NEARIt1G I~AS CLOSED.
CortmiSSioner Ilerbst noted this is a hardsh~p parcel beceuse of the flood cont~nl
channel tfir4ugh It and that the ordinances do ellc~w for hardships and he dId not
think thc prope~ty wauld ever be developed for any nur~se unless there are soMe
walvers. Ile stated hc thoue~ht the developer has done a ret~sonAbly goc~d Job as fer as
the design is concerned and that he has na problem with tht heiqht because there is
r~o development around.
AC710N; Commtsstoncr -~~,rbst offered a motion~ seconded by C~x++missioner F.tnc~ ~nd
MO tl CARRiED (Chairman Bushore being absent). that the ~naheim City Plann;^q
Cornnissic~n hos r~vtewed the propasal to reclasaify subi~ct property from RS•A-~.?.000
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MINUTES, ANA}~Elt~ CITY F'LANNIN~ Cf1MMISSIAN, M~rch R~ 1~A2
~?-itt
(Regtdnntlai/A9rtculturel) Zone to the ~M-~~t1n (Restdentiel~ Multipie-~'a~~~lly) 7ane to
parmtt a t-lnt. 3G-unit, ~~5-foot hiqh c~nriominium suhdivislen with w~ivers ~f minimum
bulldtng stte ere~, mAximurn st~ucturAl height~ minlmum ianclscaped sethack~ mtntmum
sida yard •etback, mtntmv~ r~creatlon~l-letsure ares end requir~d type of p~rktng
spsces on e rectangulr;•Iy-sheped psrcel of land cansistin~ of ~pproxim~tely 1.9 acre
havinc~ a fr~nt~ge of approxim~tely 2F~~ feet on the south stde of Crescent Avenue~
app roxtmbtely 33~ fcaet west of the centerllne af Brookhurst Street; anA does hereby
~ppr~va the Negattve Decleratian from the re~utrement to pren++re a~ environn~entat
impact roport a~ the beat~ thot there would be ne stgnlficent indivtdual or
cumulative adverae environn+ontal tm~act duo to the epproval of this ~leq~tive
Oecleration since the Anahelm Ceneral Plan designates the suh,~ect ~roperty for wnte~
uses and gencral open spece lancl uses tc~mmrnsu~ate with the pronosal; that ~o
senstttve envtronmenc++l tmpacts arc Invelved In the propesAl; that the Inittal Study
submttted by the petitioner indicates no significant lndtvtdual or cumutAtlve adverse
environmental impACts; nnd that the Negativc pecl~r,~t~on suhstr~ntiatlnc~ the f~reqc~ing
ftndin~s is on f1)c in the City of /1n~heim Piannln~ De~a~tm~nt.
Cortmissioncr Ilerbst offered Resol~tl~n No. PC82-31 and moved f~r (ts passAge and
adoption that the Anahaim City Planntng Conmission does her~by qrant Reclassiflcatlo~
!~o. 81-$2-13 sub,ject to Interdep~rtmental Cortmittee recc~mrt~endatlons wtth Conditinn
No. 3~ being madifled to read ~hat e rlght-of-wcry Anrcer-+~nt between thc developer of
subJect property end the Oronge County Flc~od Control District shall be executed And
recorded; saic! egraement shall be satisfacto ry to the County of Orange Environmental
Managert~ent Agency; and modtfying Condttton No. 2i to inc~ud~ Revision No. 1 of the
axhibits.
On roll cell~ the foregc~ing resolution was passe:d by the foll~wln~ vot~:
,~YES : COMMI SS I ONCaS : $ARNES ~ ROUAS ~PY, NE pOST, Y,I NG ~ NtDURNEY
NQES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
AfiSENT: CONMI SS I ONERS : dUS11ARC
Commissloner 1lerbst offered a motion, seconded bY Ca~nnisslo~er B~ouas and MOTICN
GARRIEO (Chairman B~shore beinq abxent), that watve~s a through f be granted on the
basts that the property is irregula~ly-she~ed wlth a f)ood control channel through
it.
Commissioner Herbst offared Resolution No. P~82-32 and moved for its passage and adeption
that the Anaheim City Planning Cw+anission does h~raby grant Conditionai ilae Permtt No.
2292 tn conpfiancc Wlth Sections 18.~3.~3~; .~31; •~132: .~33; .~3~+ and .~35~ Title
it3 of the Anahetm Munictpul Coda and sub,ject to Interde~artmental Commtttee
recommendatfons.
~n roll call, the foregaing resolution was pessed by the followiny vr~te:
AYES : COMt~15510NERS : BARNES ~ BOUAS ~ FRY ~ IIERBST ~ KI flt; ~ HcBURNEY
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ADSENT: COMMISSIONERS: DUSIiOpE
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Canmiasi~ner Na~bst affered a motien~ seconded by CamTis~loner 8~+uas And NOTIf1N
CARP,IEQ (Chairn-sn 8uehore being absent)~ th~t the Anaheim City Planninq Commisston
does hereby flnd that the nroposed subdivision~ thqether with tts dd4fqr~ Ancl
Irt-provartwnc is constatent with the Ctty of AnAhetm f'ener~+l PI~~ pursunnt to
Government Code Sectlo~ f,6473~5; and do~s~ the~efore~ r~pprove Tentative Map of Tract
No. 117~7 (Revislon ~lo. 1) for a 1-lot~ 3h•untt, G5•foot htah condominle,~n suhdlvision
subJect to the following condltions.
1. Tha~t the approval of Tentative Map ef Tr~ct ~b. 11~27 (Revision Nn, 1a is
grnnted subJect to thn s~preval of aeclasatflcetton Ne. t~l-F2-13,
2. That the ~pprovnl of Tentative Me~+ ~f TrACt No. 11727 (Revlslen Ne, 1) is
grantad sub)ect to the epproval ef C~ndittonet iJse P~rMft No. 2 292,
3. That ahould thls suAdivlsion be ~:e~v~lop~d ns more then one subdivlslon~ eech
subdtvisto~ thereof shell b~ suhmitt~d In tentettve form fo~• anprovel.
4. Thet xhe ariginel dc~cument~ of the covennnts, condittons~ and restricti~ns,
ond a letter eddressed ta developer's tltle company ~uthorizin~ recnrdeCion
tt~arcof, ~hell be submitt~d to the f.ity ~ttorney's offlee and approved hy
thp Ctty Attorney's Offlce. Public Utilitles Dep~rtn+ent~ Buliding Dlvisinn~
and the Engineertng Dlvtslon prior to final trACt n+ep appreva~. Seld
docume~r~ts ~~s appruved, shAl l b~ fi 1~d rnd recorde!d in the f1f f 1 ce of the
Oranye Cou~~ty Rec~rder.
;. Thst street nemos shal l be ~p~roved by the City Planntn~ Oepartn+ent ~~ior to
approval of a ffnal tract mep.
6. Thet subJect property sh~il be served by unuerground utiltti~s.
7. That drai~ege of subJect property shalt bc dlsposed af tn a m~nncr
setlsfacto ry to the Glty Enqineer.
F3. In the ~vent thAt subJect prope~ty Is to be divtded for the pur~,~sa of sale,
I ease, or financi nn~ a parce) map. to ret; ! the approved dt vi slen of
subJect property sha~l 1 be submi tted to and apprnved by the C t ty ~f ARAheim
and tfien be recorded 1n the office ~f th~ Orange County Recorde r.
~. That the avner of subject praperty shell pay to the City of Anah~i~n tfie
approprtate par~ end recret~tton In-lieu fe!es as cletermined to b~ appropriate
by the City Gouncil~ aaid f~ees to he pald at the tin+e the but)dinvp~rmit is
( ssued.
10. That all pr~vete streats shat) be develc~ped In accordsnc~ wtth the ti ty of
Anehaim's Stande~d Oetat) No. 122 for privete ~treets, Includinq
installat!on of street nems s~Tgns, plens for the ~riv~te st~eet Ilghting~
ss requi red by the stand~rd detai 1. shal i be subrol tteJ to the But ldln ~
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MIHUTES~ ANIWEIM CITY PLANNIN~ COMMI5SI~N~ M~~ch 8~ 1~8?. 82•~~3
Oivlston for ~pp~oval and Inc~u~lon wfth the bull~i~q plens prlor t~~ the
(ssu+m ce af buliding permtts~ (Privete streetf ~rR tho~e which pr~vide
prir~ary ~cce:~ ~nd/or circulaticm withtn the proJect.
11. If pe~manent straet neme signs have ~ot been i~st~lled~ tem~orary street
narne sig~s shall be Inst~iled prter ta ~ny accupancy,
12. That thn owner(s) of subJect property sh~il p~y the trafii~ signa)
asaessmant fee (Ordinsnce No~ 3~F~ ~n an emou~t es determtned by the ttty
Cauncii~ fc-r s~ch new dwelltnq unit prlor to th~ Issuence of a bulldinn
pe rm 1 t .
13. Prlor to issuance of buildina pe n~its~ the ep~llcant shnll nres~nt evidence
setisfact~r~~ to tha Chtef Bulldinq Inspector thet th~ units wil) b~ in
conformance with Nolse Insulotlon Stenderds spectflRd tn the Ce~~fornlA
1ldministr~tive Code~ Title 25.
1ri. Prior to tssuan u ~f bulldtn~ n~r~+its~ the a~plicAnt shail preaent evidence
satisfACtory t~ the Chlef Butldin,y Inspector that tl~e proposed ~ro_le~t is In
conformrnce with Council Pollcy Number Si~2, Sound Atcenuetion in Residential
Pro~ects.
15. That e minimum 1~-foot wfde access easement fran Crescent Av~nue through
sub,Jecc pro~erty~ allowtng for pas~eac of heavy equl~nt for constructlon
and realignment of portions of the Dad Mtller Ro1f Cours~~ shAll he
dedicated to the City of Anahelm.
16. Yhet lf a record of survey prepered by a registered civil enqlneor s~
indicates, the owners of subject protxrty shall quitcialm by deed to the
City of llnahetm th~t portton of subJecC p~operty occupied by an existinq
gol f cart path and restroort~a .
1/. Thet a rtght-of-w~y sqreement between the developer of subJect property end
Orenge County Fiood Control District (OCFCO) shall be executed and recarded.
Sald ogr~ement shall be sat(sfacto~y t~ the County ot Aranqe~ Environmental
Management ~gency.
1~'. That all proposed structu~es sha~li confr+rm to the City's Flood Hazard
Reducttan Code and that said structu~es sha11 be sub~cct to approval bv the
Building Department in eccordanc~ with Section 17.2P.1~~ of the Anah~tr~
Municlpal Code.
Jack Whlte, Assistant City I-ttorney~ Rresanted th~ wrTtten ric~ht to rppeal the
Plenning Coernisslon's detlslon wlthln 22 days to the City Council.
Chalrman Duahore returned to the meeting.
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MINUTE5, ANANEIM CITY pLANHINR COrIMISSIAM~ March q~ ~nR2 8~-11-i
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PUSIIC Ii~l1RING~ ONNER; CALIFpRt~IA bRiVE•IN Tf1EATRCS~ 12~1 FMrth Pabertsen Boulevard~
Los Angeles. CA 9+10hQ. AGE~~T; KEITN A. NURtN1~F1, 51~ W~ig~n,,,ood~ Anahelm~ CA ~2~~11.
Property descrih~d as en Irrequie-•Oy-shaped perce) of land c~nststi~~ of
epproxlm~tely 23 acres~ 152A No~th Lemm~ Street (Ansheim Drtvr-In Thertre).
CONDITIONAL USC R~~UEST; T~ PERMtT S~dAP HCETS ~T AN EXISTINr, ~RIVE-I~1 TlIEATPE WITN
wAIVERS OF REZUIRED I-iPROV[MENT OF PARKIHr, SPACES~ MIt~IrUM LANOSCAPf.D SETDACK AND
MAXI NUM FE~~CE HE 1 ri~T.
Sub,~ect pctltlon was continued from the n+eQttng ~f Februa~ry 22~ 1~C2~ et th~ reques:
hf the petitioner,
There wer~ feur persons Indtcatinq thelr presenc~ in oppe~ttion to sub(ect request.
and although the ~tAff report was nc,t read~ tt Is ~ef~rred to and mede a ~nrt of the
minutes.
Kelth Murciock, egant, stated this request car~es obout because there appe~rs te be a
demand for addtttonai swap mcet activltles in this area ~nd the Calif~rnie Drtve-in
Theatres have been on~rating a swap mnet at thls loc~tlon for the past two yeers on
those week-ends when the Rsms utiitz~ the ~n~helm Stadlum ~n Sundays end tfiey us~ thr.
Orange Drive-In Theatre porktng. II~ statecl thts ap~ r~tto~ has proven to be qutte
Sdttsfactory end th~ petitiorter is requestfn~ to continue this oper.~tion on a yeer
rou~d basis on S~turdeyS ~nd Sundays.
Mr. Murdoch s tateri they rea 1 1 ze the Anahe i n Pa 1 1 ce ~~ ~~-r tn~nt hAS re~ i s tered
opposttion to the Idea of sw ep inerts~ but his investiqatlon h~s shown that the
concerns expressed by tho t'ol (ce Uepartn+ent dn nqt accur a~nd durinq the tir+~ the
Anahaim Urlve-In has operated sw ap merts~ no trafftc probien,s have been created and
thQy d~ not anttcipate there will be problems.
Conca rning the waivers~ Hr, MurcinCh expia~ned th~ request is actually f~r time anc!
not to waive the requtremen:~ entirely; thrt the waivers pertatn tn e 5-acre parcel
which is currently u~developed between Lemon Street and the theAtre property end
there is ~ 6-foot high chaln link f~nce exlstinq with no landscapinc~ snd they ~uld
i lke to d~lay complytn~ with these candi tlons untt l they cr~n determine how successfui
tF~is swep meet ~ratian wtll be. 11e st~ted it mey be th~nt that additiona) parking
will not be ~eeded since they have pr~king for t~Or10 cars ~~ the Northrc~p property
and on the northern part of the th sacre propertv withtn the existinry fence a~nd feel
that should be adequate at this time. t~e stated they Nould Iik.r te deley pavtng the
~-ecrs parcel and when the pavinq is done~ the existing ~-foat fence would be r~oved
and the i0-foot lundsciped strip would be planted.
M~. Mu~doch stated another walver perteins to e S-foot lAnciscaped sree and ren+ovel ~
relocation. and reduction of the height of an existing metal fenc~ aiong Durst St rert
end explained this fence has been the~e for 27 Yea~s and is primsrily to bloc.k the
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light t~truslon into the thaetre end not~d therc is no l~ndsceptn~ in that ~reA. H~
stated when Conditlonel Use Permlt ~~o. 111h was a~prove~d ond later c~nstdered ~~aln
in 1~7~~, wh•~ the thaetre wes ~sxpandrd ta three xcreens, this fe~~ce NAS discussPd~
but apparently. tha feeiing of ihe P1Anning Commtsston wa~ that the fence should
~enrin as is.
Mr. Nurdoch referred to Condttton ~lo. F reautrin~ a perpetuai reclprocal ~erktng
agreement wlth the owner of the property to the east (t~o~thro~ Corn~rntton) and
stated they are concerned about the wording ~f the cr~nditlo~ hec~use thts Is not a
rectprocal or perpetu.~l egreement since It Is fer twa years wlth opttons to r~new.
Ile stAted they would rec~uest that thts permit be gr~nted witfi a delny of
implern~ntatlen of Condi tlons 3q G and ; and that Condttion ~Io. ~i er.clude any
referonce to the rr~tol fanc~ adJ~cent to ~urst Street ++nd that the AqrrPrnent with
North rop shall tx~t be perpetual or recipr~cal hut would be tn f~rce fo~ the ltfe of
the p~oposed use.
Jerry Knud~on~ repres~nting R. S. I~oyt~ Jr. And Oryan Industrlal Pr~perttes~ 1~~6 East
Oranqethorpe Avcnue~ prescnted A petttton containing sf~nntures ef epproximntely 3t1
tensnts ln the area and also presentcd a n+np of the aree. Ne stat~d they are
concerned basicAlly with the 14-ecr~ parcel of i~dustriai ck velnnn,ent wfth 18
industrlal buildtngs on lt wtth two ~rtv~te riqhts•af-way irtn~ dtately to the rx~rth ~f
subj~~ct propcrty. He stated taxes assess~d against this propertY were S31+,~1~~ p~r
year as opposed to 524~~A~ per ycar on the drtve-in theatre ere~; th~t the industrlAl
development h~s been there since iqS7 and Bry~n Industrlal Properttes has been in
Anahelm since 1~1hE. He stAted they are co~cerned and oppose the annlicetten because
of the trash which hes been a reat prohlem. I~e explatned when thts was flrst
establishsd. M~. F~oyt anci aryen Industrial Properties .issumcd thls was A short term
use and no oppos 1 t lon was mF+de becausr 1 t was for Prm's ~ar~s end i t was to be a
ltmtted use. Ne steted althnugh nc~ complalnts were riade~ eve ry Monday~ after a swap
meet, the~e w~s an incredible amount of tr~sh arourtd the premises. Ne exol~tned
patrons of tha swap meet used a prtvAte street (Durst) and 1t h~+s created a problem~
but it wasn't of a ma_ynltu=1e to complain about because it wes only y to 12 tinks a
year, but that 5? tirt-es a yaar is a very real and different prohlem. He stated the
tenants are also cancerned about the pote~ttal problem of trafflc bec~use there is a
lot of trafflc up and '~vrn thase private streets~ Orangethorne Wsy and Missile Way,
and noted a substantial amount of money is bein~ spent maintaininq these p~tvate
street~ a~d there (s additional traffic and park~na when these swep n+eets occur. Ne
agreed that the fence should stay as hic~h As it is end stated part of the problem ts
aggrevated by the gar.e at the northeast corner of the theatre and people have gone
through the gate down Durst and the pro~~sed plan is for the patrons to enter the
north parking lot. directly through the drtv~-in. F1e stated they were concerned th~t
the gate would be opened at thn end of Durst. 11e cl~rified that he had referred to
Durst as a private street~ but it is a public Street.
Lieutenant Nutchinso~~ Anaheim Poltce Depa~trtr.nt~ st+~ted he is speaktng on behalf of
Captain Kennedy of the Traffic Divislo~ and the Chief of Poltce; that the City of
Ora~ge Police Oepartment has inditated by letter that they have fiad no p~ablems with
the Orange swap meet; however~ in hTs experTence, as Canmander of Crir~es~ Property
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Section of the Oetactive Divislon~ he has found th~t prob~bly on a continuaus hesis
they are recovering stole~ property threugh SvrA~ meets and that is not t~ Infer that
this would be thQ situnticx~ et thla s~•~np n~et; hc~+ever~ es at Janurry 1~P1~ there
were new rest~ictions placed by the Depsrtment of Justice. ~c~ardinn the sele nf
c~rtaln sQrialized or identiflahle merchandise through secand•hen~i daalers~ s~rap
rn~ots ~ etc. fle stnted ho and the Ch tef of Pol Ite fee) 1 t would take ~~ to ~
ddditional tnvestig~tors to fulftll the requlr~ments of the stalte I~w to enf~~ce thts
type reguletinn at swap meets I~ our City.
He statad one of hls sergeents discussed the matter wlth an investic~ator of the
Oranye Po 1 I c~ Department And he 1 nd i c~ted thet they bas i ca 1 1 v s t~pped enfQrc i ng tha t
legislatton because of the lack of mnnpower; ond that f~r a full year they ~0 1~ced
the swt~p rt~ets (n the City of Orange end cc~ntinunlly had encnunters with stoten
property or contrabflnd and nfter they dfsc~ntlnued the wc~kly pol~cing of the swap
m~ets~ therc were seve~al t~~sE, forces In on~rntlon in Or~n~te County f~r the purpose
of cheGking on swep meet acti vi tles end every task force act i vi tY that took ~ lace
resulted In recc~very of stolen pro~erty, in additlon to other contr~~h~nd; and they
further found that the people were not ahtding hy the statc t~rv In r~cordlnq tf~r
necessary sale of seriallzed or ldentlfiable prorerty to th~ OnpArtn+ent of Justlce in
Secrame~to.
Lt. tiutchtnson stated as far as trAff{c ts toncerned, the Arange Swap Me~t h~s 4 ~r S
entranccs And ex(ts and the llnahefm Urlve-In only has ~ne entrnnce and exlt onto
Lnmon Strset. lie stated he has heen with the departnent for 22-1/2 years and
belt~ves this will create a prot~lem and he could not envisicsn that there weuld not be
sane sort of trefffc problemwith only one entrance and exit onto one street, In
addi tion ta the activi ties of the shoppinq centers in the area. !le stated th~ Pol Ice
Chlef IndicRtes that he does not feel that tha Addltional ~evenue thts miclht bring ta
th, ~tty of Anahoim would offset the expenditures of the ~dditional 4 to (,
investtgators to ~Iice It and addcd they do not have the addltional manpaver in the
depa~tment to take on that additlonal assignment.
Hr. Murdoch rep 11 ed ta thc oorm~nts reqardt ng thc ( ndus tr i t-1 Area to the north of the
theatre property and stated there was a~roblem wlth swap n+eet aatrons golno inte the
industrir~l a~aa when the gate an the northeast corner aAS open; hc*-ever~ that qate is
not to bc opened while the sw~p meets ere in operatton naa. Ne explalned the swt~p
meet uti 1 i zes on ly one ent ran~:e and exi t and there would be no way fer pAtro~s to c~et
in except through that g~te s~~ they feel that wil) solve the problem. Ne stated they
were not aware of the trash si tuation and Nr. Swerdlow has i ndicetcd thAt i f that is
a prob lem~ the~r wi I 1 take u+re of I t at the! r own expenRe.
Mr. Hurdc+~ ti stated appa~~ntiy Lieutenant Nutchins~n of the ~'olice Departn-ent ~s
getting different information than what they recelved and that a copy of their
correspandence is avai labie and presented a c~py of the letter from the Oranq~ Poiice
Depertment to the Commissior,.
Mr. Murdoch stated whon swap meeis inltiaily started~ there rvas a problem with stolen
property, but the practicas havo~ changed censlderAbly and the laws have ch~nq~ed and
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MINUTfS~ ANIWEIM CITY PIANNINf COMMISSION, March 9. 14$2 82-117
It is now s ro~ul~eme~t by stete law that e11 the sertalixed merchandise hAS to F~e
listad on tha appitcaticx~ of each vendor, together wtth the Identiftcatlon of the
sales tax permit~ snd the home sddress of each vender~ ~nd every v~ndor has to flle
tha r~eport~ whether intermittent o~ rec~ulnr ve~der. Ile stated ihts report is turned
over to the Potice Dapertnwnt ~t ths end of eve ry woek.
M~. 14urdach •tatod -~e talked with Csptatn Jerry Creves of the Orenge Police
Departme~t s~d with the Mayor and City Manrger nnd thei~ ex~erience is consid~rebly
different than what Lieutenant Nutc--tns~n has tndtc++ted and their estlm~+te was a cost
of s3on co 540~ per weakend to tnvesttc~ete the sw~~p n+eets. Ile aAded thet Pacific
U~tve-In Theatres warked wlth the stete legisletura and with the crlminal
invastigetlon secRicx~ of th~ strte to develop the ordinenc~ qoverntng swap meets so
that oantr~is would be provtded. lie stated the stAte did an Anelyses and surveys of
swap meet o~erati~ns which reveeled thet the ~•xistence of stolen pro~~rty Is ne~rly
neqii~lble.
T1~C PUtfLIC HEARINr, WAS CLOSEO.
Commissio~er McBurney asked if Pacific Drive-tn Thentres tntends to provlde the
investlgators and survelllance at each ;wap meet and Mr. Murdoch replled th~t they
will do that with thelr pers~nnel but that would not eliminete the need for an
occeslonal check on the part of the An~heim Potice Departn+ent.
Commissloner Barnsa steced she w~s not concern~d about the crlme problem hut was
concerned about the tr~sh prablem whlch Nr. Knudson discussed. -1r. Y.nuds~n steted
they have noticed the trash particularty on weekends follc~wing the sw~p meets at the
bulidings tlosest to the awap meet. He stated they hAVe )ust cleenec! it up in the
pas L because the t r re 1 at i onsh I p wi tfi the dr i ve- t n has been qc~od over the yet+rs . tie
explalned the t~nants we~e particutarly con u rned ahout crine with peaple goinct up
and down the streets. He stated he wes not sure if there h~d been any parttcular
incldents~ but that there had been aeople areund the area and he was not sure if that
wes only when the Durst entrsnce was ot~en. Ha stated they have handled the cle~n-up
without complalning.
Commissloner McDurney suggested closin~ off Misslle Way ~nd (lrangethorpe 4/ay so
there could be no access fror+ th~ rear. He exnlefned Missile 1Jay and Q~angethorpe
Way are privAte streats but they are open ~+nd if they ~nticip~te a lat nf people will
attend these swap meets~ they prob~bly wtll be using those prtvate streets.
Mr. Knudson clarified for Chairn~n Bushore thAt the pl~+n is that petrons would drtve
into the drive-in theatre to get into the parking lot but there is nothing to
precludc the~ from opentng the nerthern gate. He stated Ourst Street is not their
only cantarn but it ol+vi~usly contrihut~s ta the prohlem,
Commiasianer pouas asked if the Orange brive-In The~tre swaa meets will be continued
and it was clartfied that bath will be operattng except an Ra~+ qame days and th~t the
mlleage between the Orange Drive-In and the Anrhetm Drive-In 1s apprnxTmatety sevan
~ni les.
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MINUTES, ANANEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSI011~ Mt~rch R, 1~82 A2-118
Commtsstoner Boues asked how they keep ~~ple from perkinq c~n the unpeved five ~+cres
end Mr. Murdoch replted thst Is currently fenced and was opened for occ~sion~l sw~+p
meets durtng the ~ast tvro years~ but they do not think I~ ~~111 be necesse ry to use it
wlth the Incre~sed Northro~ prrkine~ lot end the northern pc,~tton of the~+tre parking.
!le explalned inittelly they were thinkinq they would n~~d r+beut ~ne y~ar hefere
peving that erea, but the Rams geme~s will he occurring tn the ft~ll nnd by that ttme
the ~ctual use of the arer could necassitete o~entn~ the five-~+cr~ percel so nrobably
1~ stx rronths they could have it paved. 11~ stated when the Oranne Orive-In Is cleted
far s Rams game~ the bus(ness at the Annhalm Drlve-In is ~xpected to lncrtase. fle
explalned thoy hAVO 8;~ st+~lls but have h~~n ~nereting nt about ~i~x ~f thet level;
th~t th~ Orange Drive-In swap meets heve epproxirt-etely f,A~~ t~ 7~~~ pAtrons on
5und~ya and half that am~unt on Ssturday; and that thcy would get apc+roximatr.ly 45~
of that figure at the Anahelm Drive-In.
Chelrmsn bushore stotod he vnted agatnst thls requsst in 1~11~~~ And was qutte
concerned then that there was rrc~t a reamm~endrtl~n fnr denlel frcxn the Po11ce
Department. lie clarifled the~o was a similar r~que~t at thts t~cation in 1~17~~ which
was denied. He af+~ted he nu~dc the stAtament tn ~~Rn tl~at what the Ctty wants~ the
Ci ty gets and he was real ly concerned because dlw~~-s (n tf,a ~nst, swa~- ~eets wer~ not
allowed tn thls Ctty because of the sart~ concerns the Police Dep~rtment nc~w hns. but
suddenly when it w~s to acconmodate the Rams~ it could be +~~proved~ And th~t was what
led Pactflc Urive-In to ~ome In today~ thinkl~o they h~~ve proved their cr~se and could
now havQ swap meets in this city and naw th~rr, are recommendetlons that it not be
e~proved; and that the neic7hbors have sAld it is not quite fatr to them~ su any
decision will either hurt the netghbors ar Paciftc ~rive-In. Ne stated it was
discoverec' that the pArking at Oranqc rr(v~-In was nat needed by the Rams hecause it
was too far fr~m the stadlum.
Commissioner McDurney ~tated he can understand the cance~n of the nelghbors to tne
north but the way the fe~cing Is loid out alon~~ the publlc road, d b~rrier Is created
whtch does not allcaw them Lc~ qo through and if saneone wanted to tt+ke sc~methtng fran
the Industrial area, th~y certainiy~ woulci noc do (t with this ~+ny people around and
would oome back late~. Ne stAted he felt allawinq admlttance to the drive-in et one
locatton does control the situatior end thrt h~ is i~ favor oF the proposal.
Responding to Commissioner Fry~ P~ul 5inger. T~r,ffic EnqinePr. stated the proposal is
for the prt+nAry access to be through the existt~c~ drive-in theatre on lemon Street
and the sr~n~e parktnc~ lot is accesslhle from ~rangethorpe and havTnq two entr.~nces and
exits would dive~t tha traffic und reduu the overflaw ot parking into the
neighboring areas; and that l~rge slgns should be posted that the~e Is free parking
for the swap meet which w~uld discaurage overflc~w parl~ing inte the industriAl aree.
tle stated he helieved one af the htggest prohlems o~ Durst is people trying to evoid
perking fees by pprking an p~ivnte praperty. Ile stated at ttmes, especlt~lly tn the
morntngs when the swap meet first opans~ thcre would be queuetng of traffic trying to
get into the faciltty. but the exitir~g traffic leeves sparadically and he dtd not
enticipate lerge que uss building up. lie stAted this is weekend tra~fic which does
not pQek tn the same manner as we,ekday treffic and he expects mintm8l interference
wTth no~mal traffic. Ne stated obviously there wiil be tirnes when ther~ wilt b~
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MINUTES~ ANAI~EIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSIOl~~ March A~ 1'18?. BT.-11A
congestlan but not very serlous because thera prof~~hty wc~uld not br. mc~re thAn t(1A~
cars at the swsp meet and that ths streets have the capacity to ca~ry the traffic.
Commissioner Fry asked if Mr, Sinc,~r w~s a~ncerned with people exitinq the facility
and cro~sing the double lines t~ go left on Lemon. Mr. Stnger replted that If this
is epprovod~ ~ne of the condittons should b~ that a ecx~tinuous left-turn lano be
installed on l.emon Street te acc~mmadate tn and out left t~rns.
Thert was a response from the audience that the trafftc ta alr~edy had in the arer~.
Mr. Singer clarified the lcft-turn l~nes are scheduled in all ~+rterta) streets;
however~ It has not been budqeted for len+on Street~ ~s yet, and if this swap meet
should be appraved, the developers should be requlred to parttcipate in the
constructlan of this teft-turn l~ne on a very informal basts.
Cha+rme~ aushore stated he would have t~ vote no on thts request because he would not
compromise his opinton of 198A, that he has nothi~g a~a(nst Paclfic Drive-Ins but
doas nat like swap mcets. Ne suggested tf this is approved, ;hat It be lirotted to 2
years, ln ord~r to protect the citizens and Judge the treffic and trash that wil! be
cr~used and also tt should be specifted thet the parking sh~li be free at All tirtres
and the parktnc~ should bn located right next to Lemon Street and paved so that pe~ple
will see it is paved and Is fre~~ which would encourage them to go in and use it; a~d
that in addltl~n to the S1AA a year fee for swap meet pius the .S'1 cent p~r stall per
day charge~ there should be +~ master fee paid to the city to pdy for the extr'a
enforcement required and that LhQ appltcant should ~~y fQr at le~+st two peltc~
officers to be there at all tirnes; and thot sales tax must he cotlected; and that the
goods sold should be limitcd to new goads only.
Hr. Murdoch responded that approximately 60Q parking spsces could be developed on the
five-ecre site and ~oted there are tn~n sn~+ces avAllahle on the Morthr~o parkinq area
and epproximately 4~~ on the theatre property wlthout the ftve-acre parcei.
Cortmissioner Nerbst asked if the Anahetm Orive-In swep meet would have more people tf
the Orange Drive-In parking is needed for P,ams. -~r. Murdoch atated the Orangc Drive-
In currently has off-site pa~king whfch is loceted in the City of Anahetm and thet
parking ts not avatlablr when the Ran~s ploy.
Mr. Swerdlow stated swap meet huyer fees erc .54 Per person or S1.~~ pe~ wrload. Ne
clarifted that no walk•In custa+~rs sre al~a+ed at the Anaheim Drive-In swap meet.
Mr. Swerdlaw further explained there is no entrance o~ Durst and a qate was cut
bQhlnd the box office so the patrans could driv~ straight th~ouqh to the Northrc-p
parking lot; hawever, there is an exit onto Durst f rom the no~therly pa~king lot.
Ha stated they can restrict the traffic to go all the way dayn Durst to ~emnn and
btock Misstle Way and Orangethorpe ~1nY with saw horses and a guard. Fle explained
thei~ hours of operation a~e fr~m 6:~~ a.m. to about 3:3~ P•m.~ wtth the last buyer
ent~ring ebout 2:00 p.m.
3/8/82
MINUT~S~ ANANEIN CITY PIANNING COMMISSInN, March 8, 1A8?. 82•120
Respo~dl~g to Commtsatoner Nerbst an ha, ~~les tex is collected~ Mr. Swerdlow
replted thet ell regular seller~ are required to have a Stat~ eoard of Equalizetton
hrmlt. lie expielned there ts a casuel seller which Is permitted to seil three timas
a year and no 6oard of Equelixatton Permit is required~ plus the~e are exclusions for
produce sellera.
Cammla~loner tlerbst asked if the cosuai seilers miqht possihlv be thr problem with
stolen mr.rchandise and asked if the c~sual seller cauld go from swap r~et to swap
meet.
Mr. Swardlow statc~i they have worked ve ry herd for 1~ to 1S yesrs with the St~te
6oard of Equalitation ~nd thc Statr Attorncy ~encrai's offtce to tighten the taws ond
regulAtlons; and that the casual selier ts not the proble~+~ but ts the setl~-r who
comes to tha swap meet instead of hevtng a gar~qe sale. Ile clartfied chat tho
maJority (over 90$) of sellers are re~uler sellers. Ile explained the swAp meet
operetor records the casual seller's Iicense number~ etc.
Commtsslaner Nerbst ~sk~d tf the cnsual seiler could be eliminated frcxn this
co~ditlonai use permit. Mr. Swerdlow replled they wouid ehide with whetever the
Plenning Commisslan seys~ hut they feel the casuAl seiler is hetter off at the swap
meet than the garage sales or on str~et carners.
Commissioner lierbst s~ated swap mcats hnve e stigma; ha,~ever, he felt tf the problems
~ were that great, ather cittes would not p~rmit them to cnntinue. tle stated he would
~ be tn favor of the use providinq tf+err_ are restrictians and e ttme limit In order to
give the petitinner ti~c to prove his polnt. tle agreed th~ city open~d the doar by
allowing this use because the~r neaded the parking for the Pams. Ne steted he hes not
heard anythtng adverse except the prot:ler~ wlth the tresh accumulatlon on a~dioininq
properties; that t~affic doesn't appesr to be a maJor prabiem and as lon~ as the
~ walk-tn patrons are controlled~ tR would elimtnate parktng on scxneone else's
'- property. Ne asked if the Commissien could require that ail sellers have n r~sale
permit before getting a stall and indicated he would want the pe~mit approved for one
year only.
Jack Nhite. Rssista~nt City Attor~ey, stated the Commission could add a conditton
requiring all sellers to have permtts.
Carimissianer King asked if the tw a pallce offlcers should be r~nuired as suggested ~~y
Chairman Dushorc. Commissioner llerbat ~tatcd he fclt they shoutd have e~uards
patrolling the activlties and if there are any prebtems, they cauld c~li the Anahetm
Police Department.
Respanding to Commisslo~er Herbst, Mr. M~rdnch stated they usuaily have about ~~5
employees an duty and that they do have prtvate guards, n~ re for securtty than
investigaticx~ of stolen n~rchandise. Ne stated they do make sure th~t the ve~der has
fited a tist of matertals which ccames under the stat~ code, but invest~gative
survetllance wouid not be to the extent the Police Oepartment would provide.
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MINUTES, ~NANEIM CITY PL~NNIN~ COMMISSION~ March R~ 1~82 AZ•121
Chairnien Bushnre st~ted h~ wes Mferring to ~we otf-duty t~allcr. officers b~ing hirad.
Mr. Murdoch st+~ted Pacitic Drive-In has of/ered tc+ hire oFf-duty offlcers~ both wtth
An~helm and Ar~nga.
Jsck White ~uggest~d if auch • oonditlon Is cer+sidered~ It should he that they
provide for securtty porso~nel rather than 1lmiting It to off•duty police offtce~s
because he falt there could ba sorr~ remificatlons fer M~tentt~i city liability wfth
thet stipulatlo~.
Chal rman Bushore asked about che S1A~ fee for each awep rr~et operater and 1 t was
clarlfied that fee was from the swap rr~et opernter anci each v~ndor wi11 pey .S~ per
stel) per day or e total af approximetely S22~A~~ per y~er.
Chairman Qushore stated he felt the Po11c.e (~epnrtment lost the hattle two years ac~o
when they dtd not recommend denf~~l to the ~Pquest.
Commtssloner Herbst referred to Condltion ~lo. 1~nd Mr. Murdoch replled there are ~o
stdewalks fn tha~t aree snd thcy wouid Apply fnr e w~tver of thet unti) such time
there a re oti~er s i d~naa 1 ks t n the aretf .
Commisaioner ~ierbst referred to Conditio~ No. b end it wes cierified that the fence
would be relacat~d whcn the parktng lot is ~AVCd.
Cammisxioner 9arnes indiceted conce~n ahout adequate perktng wtth i~5n~ p~aple
expected to attend and It wAa nc~ted that mc~~e than one pe~son would arrive per car.
She clarifted with Mr. Swerdlow that there had been no p~+rking prebler+~s In the past.
Comnissioner Barnes stated she sees no problem with thr us~. hut would like to see
the lemon Street property ir~proved; and also sh@ would ll~e to sre attend~nts
governing the parking with Misslle Way tlosed wlth everycne extttnq on Durst to
Lema~. She ~ointed out Durst is a pubitc street. Sne stated she felt trafflc can be
controlied so it dx s not go through othr.r proDarty and wil) not harm other
businesses in the a~ea; and that the swap rneet will brtng addittanai revenue to the
city; and she does not thlnk there will b~ a trer+iendous p~c~lem wlih crim~ because
thAt daes ~ot seem to be hsppening at swsp meets anY~r~ and refer~ed t~ tht letters
receivad from tha Mayo~ of Orange a~d the Chlef of Police of Orange about these
people who will be operating the swap meet In what she felt would be goc~d fo nn. She
stated she does feei the parking lot on Lemo~ should be improved right away a~d also
that provistcx~ sh~uid be made for son~one to pick up the trash in the area afte~ each
swap meet.
Commissione~ aouss asked if the petltior4er would stipulate to clostng the swap meet
wha~- the parking lots are full and r+et allowtng mc~re people in ~~ntil sc+nieone leaves
end Mr. Swerdlow replled they do try to enfarcc that no welk-in buycr poticy 100$ of
the tin~. Referrtng to the Lemon Street parkinq lot imc~rovement~ he steted their
ooly concern wes for a delay to aee if that parking wes rea~ly warranted; and that
wfth the Orange swsp n-eet aperating~ they do ncat anticipat~ a big influx af bustness.
He explaincd the Lemon Street I~t ts entt~ely fentcd and they had to cut an opening
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNINC COHMISSION~ Merth $~ tqBZ ~2-i22
when it wes ~eeded and they would Just keep the gete clAt~ed ~nd not~d whe~ p++trons
park on the Lemon Street lot~ they h++d to driv~ thrauah c~to thr_ theAtre property.
Ne expt~irx•+ thelr {~rsonne) would be et th~ heed ot the entrrnce drive contrelitng
truffic en~ the box offtce ia set back eppr~xin+etely 2t1~ yarda end thet na one wauld
w~1k up the entrance drtve.
Cammiasioner King ~greed thc license fee of S1A0 fs very lav.
Jack Whtte expleined the Comr++ission couid recemmend the City Ceuncil modtfy the
ordtn~nc~ adopted in Novertber, 1~1@~~ hut nc~w must Ilve within the erdin~+nc~ and the
Commission cannot Impose fees greater than allowed hy that ordinence.
Commissioner Ilerbst steted business Itcenses are norm~liy prndicated en th~ volume ef
dcllars the bustness does in r yeer. Chalrman Bushore stated th~ mini~um f~e is S2~
and these people are not requlred to have husiness licenses and if they were at the
awap meet 52 weeks that w~ul~ an~~rnt ta 525 per yerr.
Commisslonar souds stated she would not he~ in f~~~r of thts pro~ect t~ecnus~ she did
not think twa swap meetY are necded wtthln a seven milc r~dius.
ACTION: Cammissloncr Ilerbst offered a rrotion~ seGended by Cortomissioner Fry and
MOTION CARRIED~ that the Anaheim City Planning CoR+misslon has ~cvtawed the proposa)
to permit swap meets at an existtng drlvc-(n thestre wtth waivers of required
improvement of parl;ing, minl~um landscaped aetb~tk and maximum fence hel~ht on an
(rregularly-shapr.d paru 1 of land consisting of a~~roxt~cety 2Z acrr_s locateA at the
southeast corner of Durst Strnet and Lemon Street (152~ North le~non Street~ Anahr,im
Drive-In Theatre); and does hereby epprove the Ne~ative !kclaratlon from the
requlrement to prepa~e an envtronn~entel 1rt~rct report on thc basis th~t there would
be no ~ig~(fict~nt indtvl~iual or cumulative adv~rse environnr_nt~l impact due to the
app roval of this Negativ~ Ueclaratton since the flneheim Generel Plan designates the
subJect pr~perty for qene~al tndustriat land uses cc~+nmensurete with the proposel;
that no sensttivic environmental impacts arc involved in the proposal; tha~ the
Initial Study submitted by the petitioner tndlcates no stgnlticant indOvidunl o~
cumulative odverse environmental ir.pacts; and thAt the ~~egative bectaration
substantiating the foreyoing ftndtngs Is o~ file in the City of Anahetm Planning
Department.
Commisstoner Ilerbst offered a mocton~ seconded by Cor+missioner F~y and MATION CARRIED
(Commtsstoners Bushorc and Bauas vottng no)~ thAt the watver~s of code requlreme~t be
grantcd for a pcriod of nir~:ty days or at such time that the unpaved 5 ecre parcel on
Lerr~x~ Street is needed for parktng on tw~ consecutive weekends~at .~hich time tt shall
be ii~ily icprov~d and all condttions rn~t.
Commtsstoner Nerbst offerod Resolutlon tb. PC82-33 and mnved for its pass~ge and
adoption that th~e Anahelm City Planning Conmission does hereby grant Condittonal Use
Permit Na. 2296, in part, for e pnrlod ~f one yesr. subject to review for possible
extensions of time, and g~anting walvers a and b far ~ pe~lod of nTnety days or until
such time tfin improved area Is needed for parking on two mnsecuttve weekends and
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HINU't'ES~ Af1AHE1M CITY PLANNING COIINISSION~ Msrch `~. tA82 A2-123
granting watver c~ in part~ raqutrinq thot th• existing fence ed)ecent te Lemon
Street ~hsll ua relocated and roduud tn helqht withln ninetY days o~ at ~uch time
as the Irr~raveci area is neerkd on twa cona~cutive weekends, and permitting the
exl~ttng 6 foot to 25-foat hl~h rr~tsl end ch~in link fenctnq on Durst Street to
remsin tn its p~esent lacatlon and et its ~resent heir~ht pern-~nently en the hesis
that it cbe~ p~ovide llght intrusian h~rrlor for tha theatre orereti~n and dnes
pravida security to the au~rnundiny lndustrial ares end granting said ccm dltlenAl use
permit subject to the follawing stipul~+tions by the petitloner: (e) that a left-turn
lene shei) be installed along Lamon Street at the preperty owner's ex~rnse~ (b) thr~t
four security personnet sh~il be err~loyed for investigative surveillnnce for stolen
property or contrabond being soid at the swap n~ects~ (c) thet securitY P~rsonrx~l
~hal) be on duty at tha parkinc~ lot entrance snd exits end thnt no access sh~ll be
p~rmttted onto Misslle way or Ora~gethorpe Way~ (d) thet the aree surroundtn~ the
swap meet shal) be cleanod to remove any trash nccumulated from patrons and (~) that
all sellers at tha swap meet shall heve the State Doard ~f F'qualizntion rasr+ie permtt
(added following the recess) and in con~ltanc~ wtth Secttona 13.~3,~3n; .A'~1; .032;
.~33~ •~3~~ and .A35~ Title 1~3 of the Ansheim Municlpal C~de and suh~ect to
Interde~artmentei Committee recommendatlons ds madificd to refiect the nbove ch~nges
and Conditio~ ~la. I, ~odlficd ta delete the words perp~tuel ~nd reclpr~c~l.
Qn ro) l cal l~ the~ forag~ing re-solut(~n wes passed by the follorrtnq vate!:
AYES: COMMISSI~NCRS: UARNES, FRY~ -iER85T~ KING~ McE3URf~CY
NOES : COMMI SS I ONE RS : dOUAS ~ tlUS110RC
ADSENT: COMMI SS t OtlERS : NOtlE
Prior to vr~ting on tho st+ove resolution~ Jack Whitc asked that Condltlen No. 6 be
mndtfied as fallows: "That a parkiny agreen+ent with~ the owner of thc property to the
east (t~orthrop Corporatlon) provtding for a t~trl of 6~~1 parl;ing snaces c~n Saturday~
and 1~OQ0 spaces on Sundays~ which agreeMCnt shall remain tn effect at all times
during the exercise of thls co~dttlonal use permtL. shall bc submltted t~ the
Planning 7epartmcnt for transmtttal to the ~lty ~tt~rney for review end approval a~d
be recorded (n the Office of the f?rnnge County Recorder".
J~ck White~~ Asststant City P,ttorncy~ prescnted the wrttten right to ~pneal the
Planning Commission's decislen within 22 dnys to the City Counctt.
R~~CESS Thcre was e ten-Mtnute recess at 3:1~ p.m.
RECO~ E The meeting was rcconvened ~rt 3:2~ p.m.
Immediately followtng the recess, Comrnissloner 1lerbst asked that the stipulation of
the petl tiar~er be addcd to the prccedinp reselution. that al l sel lers at the swap
rtwset must have a valid resale permtt from the State doard of EqualizatJon and that
casual sellers would not be pernitted.
Jack White indicated if there was n~ opposition frcxn other pe~sons Nhn had voted in
favor of the condltional use permit. that was an expressed stipula2lon +~nd could be
added.
3/~/82
MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNIHG COMMISSION~ Ms~ch R~ 19$2 ~2•1?.4
ITE~ N NQ. ;t EIR NEGATiVE DECLARATION ANO CQt~pITIAtI~L USE PERMIT NA. 2x9q:
PUBLIC IiEARING. 011NER: NATIONAL DISTlLLF:RS PRODUCTS, CORP.~ ~A Park Avenue~ New York~
N. Y. 10016. AGENTt RYOER TRUCK LINES~ INC.~ JOHN MANGU~ P. 0. Box 2G~A~
Jacksonvllle~ Florida 322~3. P~op~srty descrihed as en irrec~uterly-shAped percel of
iand oonsistfng of appraxinu~tely 3.Rb ecres tocoted at the northwest cornar of L~
Palma Avenue and Kemp Street, 201 E~st la Palm~ Avonue. Pre~ertY pre$entlY
clasaifte~l f.G (Canmercial~ Renerai) 2one.
CQNDI T) ONAI, USE RCQUEST: TR PERMI T A TRUCK TE RMI til-L.
It was noted the pctitloner h~d requested that sub)ect petition he conttnued for ~~o
waeks.
ACTION: Commissioner King offered a r.otton~ secnnded by Commissiane~ Beuas and
1~~ Cl1RRiED, thet c~nsiderati~n of the aforerr~ntlenQd item be centlnu^' to the
regularly-scheduled meeting of March 22~ iQ$?.~ at the request of the pct~ticm er.
I TE1~ 1 N_0.~: E I Pt NEGATI VE DECll1RAT10~! AND RECL~SS I F 1 CATI ON t10. 81- $1.-15 :
PUOLIC HEARING~ 0'~lNER; RO!~ALO D. PARK~ 2!;47 f.. Mies Avenue. Anehetm~ CA q28~F,.
AGENT: REDFIfLL O~VELOPMENT CORP.~ t61h French Street, Santa Ana~ CA Q?7~1. Pronerty
described as an Irregularly~sha~ed ~arcel of land consisttna of approximately 0.5
acre et the na~thwosc corr+er of ;;enter Street and Coffma~ Street.wlth approximate
frontages of 72 feet an the north sidc of C~nter St~eet and 2~1 feet on the we~t stde
of Coffman Street.
RECLASS I FI CATI ON REQ~JEST: RS-7~~1~ I~ND RM-?4~0 T~ f,0.
There wAS no o~e indicating their presence tn opposition t~ subject request, and
although the staff ~eport was not read, it Is referred to and mede a^ert of the
minutes.
Ken Fishback, representfng Ryder Truck Lines. w~s pres~nt ta ansNer any questi~ns.
TNE PU81.1 C HEARI NG 1JAS CLOSED.
ACTIQN: Gomr+issioner Ktng offercci a mott~n~ secondrd hy ~~isstoner Fry and MOTI(1ft
CARRI D~ that the Anahelm City Planntng Commission has ~evie-wed th4 proposal ta
reclassify sub,ject property from the RS-7200 (Residential, Stngle•Pemity) and R1~ 2b0~
(Residentlal, Multipte-Famtly) Zone to the CO (Commerciel, Office and Professicmal)
Zone to construct a 2-sto ry affice buttdtng on an irr~gularly-shaped parcel of lend
cansisting or approximately ~.5 acre located et the nc~rthwe~st aorner of Center Street
and Coffman Sc~eet; and d~es hereby approve the Negattve Declaraticx~ fronz the
requirement ~o prepare an environmental tm~act report on thQ basts that there would
be rx~ signiflcant individual or cumutative adverse onvi~onmentat impact due ta che
approvai af thts ~~egativc ~aclaratlon sTnce the 11nah~im Generai Plan desiqnates the
subject proo~rty for conn~ rcta) professinnel and 1ow medium restdentiai denstty 1:-nd
uses commensurate wtth the propossi; cl+t~t no san:ittve envlronmental impacts are
tnvolved in the proposal; thet the Initlsl Study subenttted by the petttionar
indiu+tess na slqnificant indlvidual or cumulative adverse envtronmental fmpacts; and
that the t~ gative becleration substanttating the foreqaing findings is ~n ftic 1n the
City of Aneheim Plertning bepertm~nt.
3/8/82
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MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSIQN~ March 8~ 19$2 8x-1~S
Cortmissicx-or KIRg offered Resalution No. PCBZ-3k ~~d m~ved for Ite passAge ~nd
edoptlo~ that the A~ehaim Clty Pla~ntng Commtssion do~4 hAreby g~ant Reclassificatton
No. 81•8?•15 sub)ect to Interdepartmental Committee recenNnend~tions.
Mr. Fishbsck refc~rad to Conditian No. 1 and stated the stroet improvements h~ve been
constructed end tha property hss already been dedtcat~d ~nd r~ferred to Con~iitton Nc~.
2 and steted t~ose f~es have alresdy baen p~id. 1t was Gl~rifl~d th~t ance the Fees
ore paid~ they wtl) not bs cher~ed egaln. Nr. Fishbeck referred te Conditior~ No. ~+
pertaint~g to tree planting fees and not~d they are devetoping the property across
the stroet a~d feel they could bW and nl~nt better tooking AnJ bic~c~er trees th~n
they could get from the City and wauld like theC condition reconstructed ta E~e~mit
the owner ta take care of planting of trees.
DeAn Sherer, A~sistant Planner~ stnted the Parkw~y Naintenance nivtsion wouid ~llow
the dnvelopor to tnstell treas of a varlety subJect to the~r approvnl in lleu of the
fQea.
Conce rntng Co~ditlo~ No. ~~ Mr. FIsF~ ack not~d that the underqround uti}tt-es have
been constructed.
Ueen Sher~r referred to CAndition No. 3 whicl~ reads the owner is heir~g nsked to
install a street ltqht on Coffman Street, or post a bond to guarantee the
(nstallation of th~t llght and C1ty rec,ords indtcate the~re ar~e no streot ltghts a~t
thts time in that location ~nd this will be one of th~ re~uirements ~nd the condition
pertains t~ actual street lights and not in-lieu fees and port~tns to a specif{c
1 ight in front of subject praperty on Coffrr~n Street.
Mr. Fishback atated thay have alreedy pasted a band for street lic~hts on the ~ther
side of Coffrt~an a~d he dt~ not th{nk thAt meny itghts would be needed in thts sre~.
Mr. Sherer stated he feit that concittton could be anrnded to rrad "that street lights
would be installed as rcquired by the Utilittes General Manag~r" and Jack White
suggQSted the words "as ~equtred" b~ changed to "if renutred" nnd that the petttione!r
can then discuss the matter wltl, the Utiltties ~epartment.
On roll call~ the f~regoing resolutton wAS possed hy che followtng vote:
AYES: C4MMIS~I~tJERS: pARNES~ BOUAS~ DUSHbRE~ FRY~ t1ER85T, r~INr~ McBURNEY
t10ES : COHh! I SS { ONE RS : F~ONE
ABSENT: C~MMISSIONERS: NOtIE
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NIHUTES~ AHJWEIM CITY PLI~NNI~IG CONMiSSIt1N~ March 8, 1482 82-121G
I TEM No. ': E I R ttEGATI VE DECIARAI I ON ANO f ~flpt f I ONAI, uSE pE RM~ T NA. ?.;nn :
.~..._._...... ..._.~~.~._.._...._,__.
PUBLIC lIEARIN~. 01~NERt RICNARD C. IiJKSAKER, 2~t~~ South Heln Stre~t. SAnt+~ Ana CA
927A2. Property de~scrib~d as an Irreaulurly-s-+~ped parcei of irnd consisttn~ ef
appmximately 1. Z acres ~ 272~ East Reget Perk Dr) vc (Ar) te Sales Carx+~ny) . Property
claastfied ML (Industrlel~ Limlte~!) Tone.
CONDITI~')FJAI USE i~EQU~ST: TO PERIiIT PFTAIL S11LES IN TNF. ML ZA11~.
There wos no one tndicatlnq thelr pres~nce in ap~+~~ltlnn tn suh~ect requrst, and
although the ~t+~ff report ~~~as not reacl, (t is referred tn ond nu-de e~ert of the
minut~s.
Bob Walter~ Administratlon NsnagRr~ Arlte Sales~ stated ~hey went t~ o~an an outlet
and shawroom fnr products el r~ady housed in thel r wrreh< use.
TIIE PUDLIC ItEARiNG WA~ CLQ5E0.
Chaf rman ~ushore asked how p~oplc• wc~uld be attracted to this loc:~t Inn. Mr. NAlter
raplied they havc had twa warehouse s~les ~~d adv~rtisr In the news~n~~r and Also
have t+ malling i(st. lie explnlned rmst nF thelr cust~r~era find thelr I~cetion by
telepl~on(ng first.
Chalrman Bushore stated by code a certaln anr~unt of retalling wnuld be ellowed.
Uean Shorer~ Rsststant t'lsnner~ explatned the ~et~tioner can. hy riqht~ reta~i
merchendlse in the Canyon Industrfnl a~r.A~ provlded th~ product retail~d is something
that has been n~nuf;~ctured nn the p~emises~ dnd thts is only war~hausin~ anc; thAt is
what necessitates the condittonal use pc.rmit.
Conmissio~er Herbst asked hvw much rnerchand'se wi11 be sold on the premises ++nd
actually rermved by the customer. Mr. ~atter replled thnt probebly ?$ of the sales
would be retefl and the rest of the rnerchandis~ is Jistrthuted th~euqhout thc United
StatES.
Ghalrman Bushore asked tf eny adver~ising is planned on the huildinq adjactnt to the
f rBCway and N~. Na 1 ter rcpl i ed "no" and sti ~ul ated they wl I 1 not be dotn~ sny
ad.~rtixing on the outlding.
Responding ta Commtsstcxur Etarnes, !~r. Walter stated the custcxners comirtg there are
those people w!K+ may have purchased ar i tem at the May Gon~any or B~oaidway stores and
want to get sddi tional ptec~s which the stores do not handle. t!e axp;atned they d~
not currently have ra+m to display their rr~~thandise in thei~ vwn facillties and
wouid llke to use the adJacant bui iding for display.
Commissioner Flerbst stated the use bothers htm beceuse tt wil) be attracting
retal i customcrs into a purely Indu~trl~l area and he dtd not tt~ink this twpe use
beiongs in this locat~on anci that th{s (s the tyRe uf thing that just opens the door
for marc requests.
M~^. Nalter stated bostcally they wtll just show their preduct 16ne ~nd w~t to mnke
an a~ea t~ display second qualitY goods~ merchandisr thathas baen returned rnd
dlscontinued items.
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MINUTES~ ANWIEIM CITY PLANNING CQMMISSiWI~ March 8~ 1~82 ~2'127
Dean Sherer respcmded to Chelrman Bushore thAt the~e ts nethinc~ to prevent the
patttloner frnm getting permits to p~rtltion the huildin~ i~sici~, If he continued te
only do wholesele from thet l~c~tton~ but hs indic~ted he w~nts tn hevc ~atall
business.
Mr. Walter respond~d to Chairmen Dushore that he currentiy rdverttses in the
Pe~nysaver and the Sent~ Ana Re~iater ~nd the ~ds Are usuAlly 1/3 ~f A ~age and the
sales are ltmlted to twtce a year.
Chei nnan Dushore stated he could go alc~ng ~yf th the request i f that ts Al l the
edve~ttsing Chat weuld be done. Mr. Nalter st~ted they cc~uld not affnrd ta adverttse
and would not went [o lose the valume of husin~ss wtth the de~artrt+~nt stor~s. Ne
further axplained they probehly did a vbtume of 51~,000 in threc dAys when thoy had e
warehouse sale bnd ~xplAlnAd they sel ~ dinnerware (chlna and ston~wArc but not paper
products). Responding to Commisai~ner Y,ing h~ stAted if the retait sel ~s portton
grows~ they would havc to r~locatc~ to ~noth~r faci 1 i tY and waul~ l imt t th~ sales to
2;~ of their totol v+olume s~tes.
ACTION: Commissto~-er Darnes offered A mc~ti~n~ secc.,:fed hy Commisstoner Ktng an~f
M 1 CARRIED~ that the P,n:+hclin CitY Plannlnq Cur+~~!ssion has revlewed the propost~l
to per'mft reteil salcs fn tf~e ML (IndustrlAl, LIm~tE~di 7one nn an irregulArly-shr-ped
parcel of I~nd cons isting nf appr~xi~~+te1y 1.2 icre~-~ hrvine~ a frontage of
approximat~ly 4) feet on the 3uutM~~est siJe of RegA) Park f-rtve (272'1 fest Pe~a) Park
Drtve); and does he~ehy a~Nrove the Necu+tiv~ Ueclaratton frcxn the rrqulrernent to
r~rcpare an ~nvlronrnental Impr~ct rc~rt on the basls thet therr would be. no
significant Indivi~luAl or cumulativr ~dverse envlronr~ntAl innact due co the ap~rovt+l
of tt~is Negetive ~eclaration since the Anaheim t, ernl Plan designrt~s th~ subject
property for genera) Industrial t~nd uses comnensurnte wlth the nroposel; that na
sensittve environmental Impacts are invc~lved in the proposal; that the In{ttal Study
subr~itted by the petitloner tndicates no slynific~nt individuri or cumulative adverse
envi ronmcnt~+l tmpacts; and that the Negative Oeclaratlon substanti~:ting thr. foregoing
f!ndings ls on fi le in the City of An~heim Planning Departn+ent.
Commi ss foner aarnes ~f fercd Rcsol ut ion No. P~82-35 and r+bvcd for t ts passagc and
adoption that the ~naheim CitY Planning Commission dc~es herehy g~ant f,onditionai llse
Permit Nn. 23~0 subject to retail sales bein9 Iimited to 29; of the total sal~s volun~
for a pe ri od of one-year, sub j ect tr rev i ~~N and i n cor~ 11 ance wt th Sect 1 ons
1$.03.03~; .~3~i -n3?; ~~33t •~3G and .~?5~ Title 1n of the Anaheim Munictpa) Code
and subJect to Interdcpartnr_ntat Comnttt~~ recommendAtlons.
On rol ~ call. the forcgoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIOt~ERS: Bl1RNE5, E~OUAS, BUSNOREo FRv~ HERtiST~ KING. McBUP.NEY
NOES : :Or~~~I 5510~~FR5: NfN~E
ADSE~~T: COMMI SS 1 ONEFtS s tlONE
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MINUTES, AtUWEIM CITf PLANNING CAMMISSIAN, M~rch 4~ 1~~Z
ITEN Nt1._ 6: EIR NEfATIVf DfCLARA71~~~ ANp CANQITIANl1l IISt PEP,NIT NA. 2~~
PUgLIC 11EARING, OWNER: NERRICK AND JANICE Hl1NSON~ 2~1 Vle S~n Rer~o~ Na+t~^-'t seech~
CA ~Z6F3. AGENT; JAIiN PATTERS~~I ~ 31( Olympl e P 1~ce ~ Anah~im~ CA ~?n~~ . r~Atx~c~t-
descr?bed ~s e rect+~n9ulerly-shaped of lancl consisting of approxlru+telY
loc~ted At tha n~~rtheast corner of nran~ethc,rpe Avenue ene! Post Lane, 5?.i7 ~est
Orenyetharpe Avenue, Praparty presentlv cl+esslfied Cl. (Comn~rrcial, Llmitrd).
CONUI T I ONAI USE REf1UEST: ?o rfr-11 T 0~~•511L~ AICOH~L I C HC~-ERA~ES I N A PR~P~Sf Il
RESTAURANT.
There was ^~ onaffnre~ortnwash~t re+~d~~lt is re erre~'Atotandum+-d~tr-r~artsof the
althauc~h the st P
minutes.
John Patterson~ ec~ent~ refcrred to Para~rA~~h 12 0~ PsRe ~-h of the atnff report
concerning ~pposltlon hv resldents in thc areA to on-st+le alcohc~l tc f.rve!rnqe!s nnd
stnted the onlv o~aositlun tl~e Alcoholic Eleveraqe Control Ba~rd recetveci f~~m their
investigati~n ~~as from the G1ty ~f Annh~im~ which he understoc~ci ts routin~.
TIIE PUBLIC IiEARI~I~ ~aAS CL~~Cn.
Respondlne~ t~ Chairmen Bushor~~ Nr. Aatt~rson explrined fie wtll be servinQ lunches
and clir.ners and wtll cAter to tl,~ tndustri~l nre+~. I1e stnted h~ wants to h~ve o^'
selc alcohol ic beveragts becsuse sor~e custcxhers n~~f~r cocktai ls. ~le ex~l ~(ned th~re
are restricttons on hls type naC ~i foalcmust~bet~~rye~k dcx~r cnnnot he nnen~ (2)
thcre c~n be no laud musit and ~3)
Cha( r~?Ln ~nearW' ~ ~e~cc~ue3tWte~~-1'nntl~n~ofrthe~ex) sti ngF~condi tiont~inuse~p~rmi t.
prope , .
U~an Shetcr~ ASSIStAnt Planner~ it~~r`ounctl~that~CanditionaltUse~PeRS,itr~k~~.n175~ h~
Gom*~i ss i~n to reccx-xxnd to t~~~dtb the Counc 1) .
t~rminatcd~ since it was app Y
Ccxnmi ss loner Eiarnes Askcd i f any o~ the nei ghb~rs hr-~f t nd i cat~d any concern anct
clarified that they werr notifted. paan Shr_rcr stated thr neighhors were ~tified
and painted out PIC~m,tw~.~7~~,~A~db~lsacathtthehtime Yhe4pret?~rty w~s rez~ned for
Gondi tio~a) Use
ccv~merci at usee .
Coirmiss;nner Oarnes asked the petl tiunen c~~w he wc~uld keep persons under eighteen
from entaring the faciltt~, indicecing s~e wAS concerned about the y~un9 1~~p~t "fi~
live in tne arca. Nr. Patterson raplie~d. mi~ors tan bc :dmitted as lon~ as they are
accompanied by an aduvP~ident~ficationYand whoever~is wo,~kingCwnuldlhaveStobcheck the
years old and must ha
idtntific~tions.
Respcrndtng npt~~i~~°tables,bbut wilipbetf r~eatin~~,i~d the tabies shown on the
pians wi 1 P
Jack i~lhite~ Ass:atant City Attorney, exP'~Ined the Alcohollc Bever~qe Control 8oard
wiil have )urisdictlon ov~rtohMr~ attersoneise~orsac~~estaurant8which sert-esYpe
I( cense the AISC has i saue
alcahotic beverage~.
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MIIIUTES~ ANJWEIM CITV PLANHING COMMISSIQ-N~ March 8~ 1~18Z 82-12^
ACTION: Carxni~-sio~er McDurney offerdd a notlan, •econded by CMnni~sianer 8ou~s ~nd
M ION CARRIEU~ that the An~heim Ctty Pianning Cvmmisslon t,aa revlewsd th~ pr~~s~l
ta permtt on-sele ~lcoholic bevereges in a propased re~tAUrAnt on ~ rect~n~ulerly-
shepad ~~col of land conslstl~g of epp~oximet~ly 1.5 scres l~coted An the north~eest.
ca~ner of Qranc~ethorne Avenue ~nd Pae~t Lene ~(5217 E~st (1r~nqrthc+~pe 1lvenue) ;~+nd
does herchy Apprave the Ne9sttve ~ecl~~~tio~ fron~ the requlr~ent te prepAre an
eRVi ronment++l f mpacc report on the has 1 s th~i there would he no t tc~nl fl c~nt
tndividu~+l ar cumulative adverse onvirc~mont++1 tmpact due t~ the ~nl+rovrl ~f thts
Negative Decl~retian since the Anaheim t+one~r~l Pten destanntey the subi~^t p~operty
fa~ gene~el oartn~rciel land uses cmm~ensur~te wtth the nroposal; thAt no sensltive
envi ronma~ta) impects ++re Involved in the pr~posal ; that the I ni tl al Study subMi tted
by the petitioner indic~tes no sl~nificant individual or cunul+~tive edverse
e~viranmentAl Impects; end that the Ne~attvc OeclerAtion substnnti~+tin~ the foregolnc~
fi~dings is on file in the CitY of Annheim PlAnntng tkparr ~nt.
Cortanisstoner Mcliurne~y ofFa~reci Resoluiton Na. PCa2-36 end rmv~d f~r its pess~+~~ and
adaptlon that the Anahelm City Plennir-c~ CAmmtsstor does hereby grant Condttional Use
Permit No. 23~3 tncludi~g the candttic~r~ th~t the owntr ask f~r terr+lnatton of
Condl tianal Use Permi t Na. 175~ by submi tt in~ n letter to the CI ttr Councl l nnc! tn
ccxn~itance with SectTons 1a.~3.~3~; .~31; .~32; •~33; •~3~+ dn~ .~35. Title 18 of the
Anaheim Munlctpal Code end suUJect tn Interde~~rt~c~ntal Cortr+ittr.e recortr+endetions.
0~ ro) I cel l~ the f~~egoing resolution was passod hy tt~e f~l lowing vote:
AYES: COMM1551AtIERS: DARNES, UOUAS, nU511~RE~ FRY~ l1CP,BST~ Y.ItI~~ Mr:sUR'!FY
NQES ; COMMI SS I ONE RS : NOf1E
AEiSEt~T: C011M1 SS 1 ANERS : NON~
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MINUTES~ ANAFICIM CITY P~ANNINR C(1MHISSIAN~ Nerch 8~ I~A2 R2'~'~~
ITCM II(1. : EIR I~CGATIVE OCCLARATIQN A~IO CQNDIT~~JAI USC Pf.RMiT 110. 23~12:
PUBLIC Nf.ARt-~G. AuN~R; LURARO CNTEPPRISES~ ItIC., G?~ North Mt~qn~llr Avcnue, CA
~2E301. Property describr.d as an irregulerly-sha~ed percel of iand cnnsistinct nf
approximetely 2.y~ ecres 53$ North MeqnoltA ~venue, ~nAhelm, CA ^2~~1, Pr~~erty
presently classiftcd CL (Comnerctrl~ Ltmit~d) 'nne.
C~t~01TI0NAl USE REQUEST: TO f'ERMIT At1 AJTO RENTIIL ~~ENCY I~~ YIIE Cl ZONf .
Th~re wes no one Indtcatinc~ thelr presence tn c~p~+~sitlc~n t~ suhi~ct rectu~st~ tnd
although the stAff r~~rt was not read~ ft IS re~fe~rred to an<t mAc1P a ~ert ~f the
minutra.
~rwin Devis~ ~ul) Servlce Cer R~ntal, 115~~~ Trr~sE. ~venue~ Garden R mv~. re~~d a letter
concerning t~~C proposed o~er~+t~on (coc~y of Ietter is an flle In th~ c'lanntn~
peqertment),
Mr. Qavis referreJ to the staff report~ Iter~ -10. 1 i~ In<ilcatinq tf~ac thls ap~roval
wauld set e precedent for this ty~e of use in e cnrtr~ercial shopptnry center in
Anaheim. Ne stated they primarlly M this ln shn~nin~ centprs similnr to the
Cresc.ent and 1~agnal ir locfltion and there is ne cong~stton ~r+useci. Ile statcd they
deal in ne!w automabiles wlth ~ vehiclcs ~ver ? ve+vrs olc'. Ile explAlned they hAVe
salesmen wtia cal l on insurAnce cnn+panies, autortnl~i te dei+lers, encf a) t cc~mprnies that
~ id have e rer~utrement for suhstltutc auto~robiles. Fle stAte~ tfi~y have been in
business for 1; ye:ers anJ have had no ~r~hl~n+s with ~etqhhc-rs and fe~l thts would be
a good or~+ortunity for Annhelm in ~len~~~ this ty~e huslness.
TI~E Pl18LIC HEAPIlI~ WA; CLQSkp.
Comr i ss ~ancr Y.i ng was cc±nccrncd wheth~r or n~t the cha i n 1 i nk. f~nce wc~u) d b 1 end i n
with the surraundir~gs, ~lntinc~ c,..: therc is a hl~c~. wall at the c~+~t ~rape.rty line.
Nr. Davis s[atecl ch~y feel the chain link f~nc~ will n~t dana~e the environr+ent a~d
will I,lend In satisfectorily. IIe r.xplained the rerson for the Fence is to ~+revent
v~ndalism ciur{ng closed hours, becnuse vandellsm has increased durinq the past few
years. iie pointed out the fenceJ or~A woul~ be adia cent t~ the property behtnd the
service strtion. ~le clerified the fence dnes cor+plctely enctose the parking area.
~ Commissioner McBurney asL:ed if reirovinn this numher of parkinc~ sneces fron+ the
ahopplRg center will put it below code. Dean Sherer. Assist~+nt P1Anner~ renlied that
' that shopping center was constructed with excess parking snaces and eliminatlnc+ xhis
ar+rcw nt of spocrs with this enct~sure will not create a problem and sufficient parkinq
wE ~ 1 be provided cx~ si te te serve the ccxnbtned us~s ~f the shop~in~ center.
ChAtrman 1lushore dgreed end thought the use cauld tse a~~roved. subJect to rr~vie+y in
one year.
C4mmissioner Herl~st stated he has a prAbltm with putttna a chain link fence in a
shr~ppl~~ centcr parl:ing lot ~nd asked why the v~ehiclas rmuld be stc~red in this ockn
lxation.
Mr. Davis StALC~ the vehiclcs nee-d ta be ln close proximity ef custw-*ers. Resnondin~
to Commisslon~r Herbst's oppositian to the~ cheln ilnk fence~ Mr, flrvis steted ehis
location is unique and feit it woulcf be satisfe~ctary becausc the shapnina center {s
recCangulerly-shaprd enc! to tt~e trnnoedtat* ~rth there is e servicr. statio~ nn the
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PIANf~IN~ C~f~MIS51~N, March R~ tAT2 ~?-131
carner with axtra space to the re~+r which hns he~n us~d for in~ress ond cgress. Ne
palnted out the are~ ~ohich w~uld hev~* chsin ilnE: f~ncing so lt blcn~ls in mo~~ with
the ~orvice st~tion th~-n with the sh~•r~+in9 center.
Cu~nmisstaner Ktng agre~d that e chein link fence In tf~is l~catton w~uld seem ~ut ~f
plACa ancl asked if It woul~i be 1x~ssl~le to o~esrnt~ wlthout the chr!In link fenclnc~.
Commtssioner Qarnes poin~rd out the fence would he hehincf the servtc~ statlon,
Mr. Davis replied tl~at they coulJ etiminn~e the fence~ but durtn~ the tast tw<., yea~s~
eat their West Cov1nA location~ they hnve~ hnd a l~t uf v~ndr+lism and situatlans where
tho young people are coming out of thc ic~-skatlnr rink~ welkinq Alr~nn with b~sehs~ll
bots anJ breeking every win~lshiel~l ar bre~ktng ~ff the stde mi rrars or sttckinc~ Ice
picks Inta the tlres ancl the chsin link fence wc,ul~i ~revent ttiAt tyne ~f vanc.teltsm
end ttiey can opcrate witt~out tt~ but wnuld c~rt~inly ~refer to hnve it. Ne stat~d
the propCrty owner has c.~ntacted all the peo~lc In the she~pine~ cent~r and *hey d~
not see any p mhlem with the ro~u~st.
Commissloner Fry stated he diJt-'t see wherc Lhc~rn would be a prohler~.
Commissioner Kiny su97ested a hlnc~. wall with ornarne+ntA1 fencin~ on t~n And it was
nated th.~t cou 1 d crc~a te a gra f f i t t proh Iem.
Dean Sherer, Assistant P1Anner, stated the Apnllcant Is re~uesting chain Iinl: f~ncing
with a gate for ~~ccess~ hut there is nc~th(ng In thr c~le -~ ~rc+hibit A block wA11.
Corxnissioner NcBurney suggested sl~ts in the ch~in link fencr and Commisstoner Kin~
pointe~i out there ls an attrncttve blcck w~~ll tn the east And he thnuc~ht r- ch.~in tink
fence would be obnoxious.
Mr. Qavls stetcc! they will be oomPatlble with the stngl~-famlly are~ to the east and
that meny people fea~ autorrohi le rent~l .:~encles, but they hAV~ nev~r bsen asked tc+
leave an area after they heve g~[ten in A~d do -x~t have ~+rablems oi any kind,
Commissic~ner Nerbst asked if the fence would have harbtd wire for secu~tty on top and
M~. Davis resronried th~t was thtir intent.
ConWnlssioner Ner6st stated he still does not think any parNtng l~t in the shopping
centar with chain iti~k fenc~ng with harbed wir~ on top would ~e the proper thing, ile
stated he realizes t~~e petitioner needs security. but just aelt this wan the w mn~
place and did not think it belonged ln a sho~?ptng center.
ormi~ toner Bnua asksd if thet~ c~the~ ~e t 1 o rati n err. in l~opoing ~nt~rs
~nd i~ thay ar~ ~enced. M~. Davis repliec~t~iey ~irve e~~~it ope~AL~nns In s~oppln~
centers anJ they are not f~nced.
Con-missioner Nerbst stAted if they feel they have tc~ have the fence ar~und the cers.
he wilt recomrnend de~tat or deny the permtt and the petitioner ceuld lcx+k for ~ new
locat~an.
Mr. U~vis stated they awuld prefer e fence but can do without it.
Commissioner 8arnas stated she has no probl~m wi~h the use and wo~uld have gonr elonq
Nith the fencing until berbed wir~ was n~ntioned.
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MINUT~S, ANAH~IM C1TY PLJINNING CUHMISSION~ Mt~rth A~ 19E32
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Mr. Devis stated they definttcly cnuid ellninete the hArh~d wirG. Ile steteci if he
had to make a cl~ctsic~n~ I~e woulc! s~ry th~y wvuld ~ltmtnnte the f~nttnq entirr,ty.
Respot~ding tn Commissloner Qauas~ 11r. Davts s~Ated tho vehitles a~e withtn 20 fcet of the
street and the e~ress And Ingross is quite c~ood ~~d there wlll nne h~ ~ny con~esti~n
and nated tl~eru ere dr I voways n~ -~agno' i a and one un C rc~ :ent .
ACTION: Commissloner Nerbst off~red a motion~ scconcied by CcxnMiSSinn~r Kinn And
M~~ CARRIED~ that the An.ihetri City Plannin~ Cor~r+issl~n hns rcvlrwed ~ pro~sa) tn
permlt an autocx~t,lle rentet ec~ency tn the CL (CCmr+erci~l, Limited) "on~ ~n ~n
Irregularly~ShApOd p~~rccl of Innd c~~nststln~ of rpnrnximat~ly 2..~ AC~~S IACA~~'d s~uth
and a~est of thr southenst cornor ef Cn±scent Av~nue ~n~i Ne~nn1 ir ~v~nue (53~' No~nnlla
llvcnue); end cioes her~-~~ appr~ve the Negntive Dec!art~tlun f~om the requirer~nt to
rrepere an envtranment~l impnct retx~rt on tf~e bnsis thet ther~ wc+ulci hr r~
signtficant (ndiviciual or curmilative adverse tnvir~nmental in~ACt due tn the apnrovAl
of this ~legatlve Datlorrtlon sinc.e the Anehelm ~ener.~! Plan dest~natP• the subiect
property for gener~l corr~erctnl i~~+nd uses t~rmensur.~te wtth th~ ~rn~+~ i; that rx~
sEnsttlve environmental Impr~tts er~ Invr~ivod in the! pro~osnl; that the Intttal Study
submitt~d by the petitloner Indtcatea no slnnlficant Indivtdual or cunulAttve ndverse
envtronmental Impacts; and that ~hr. ~Ie~dt(ve- ~eclAr~tlon substAntiotino the forer,~in~
findings ls ~n flle in the Clty of An~hcir+ Plnnn{nc; I-epartmcnC.
Commissian~r Hcrbst offcrtd R.esalutlc~n lio. Pf.82-;7 and rmved f~~r its pass.~ge ana
adoptlon thn[ the Anahcim f,lty Plannin~ Corv+stsslon cfnes F~erehy grant Condition.il Use
Permit tlo. 23~2 on thc basfs thet thcra will bc no fencln~ around the ~+utc~obtle
storaye area slnce this ts pArt of an extstinn shappinc~ center and an the b~+sts that
the u~~~ wil) b~ limtte~i to 2~l vehlcles for A rx~ri~d of ~ne venr suhject t~ rPView And
In compli+antr with Sectic-ns 1'~.~3.~13~; .~31t •^32; •^33; .~31' ~~A ,~3'',~ Titl~ i° nf
the Anehetm Nunictpol Code and sub,ject to Interd~parte~ental Crm+mittPe
recc~r.xnendat i ons .
On roll call. thc forenn~~g resoluttnn was pASSI'd by the foll~einn vnte:
AYCS: ~"~~+hISSIONERS: OA~~+~S~ BQUAS, 4USIIORE~ FRY, HER85T~ Y.I~1~~ -~cRU~-1FY
NOES: CbMhIS510t1ER5: N~l~E
ABSENT : CdMIU SS I ~NE RS : N4t~f,
Jatl: Nhite. Ass(stant City Attornoy~ ~resented the~ orrittcn riqht to apneAl the
Planning Cortr~tssion's decis~on wtthtn 27 dr~ys to the Clry [~uncll.
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MINUTES, ANAMEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSIQN~ MarGh 8~ 1982 82-133
ITEM f~0, a; EIR CATE~ARICAL EXEMPTI~N-c~ASS XI. WAIVER OF C~DE REQUIRF.nENT ANb
.
PUBLIC HEARING. Q41NER; RALPI~ t3. AND DEVERLY J. CLARK, 1~AR u. br~n~ewaod ~lvenue,
An~heim~ CA ~z802~ At;ENT: RANNET7 OUTp00P, I1~yERT1~-N(; ~f1.~ 17;1 Norkmnn Street~ l.~s
Angelos~ ~nn33. 11TTLNTION: LYNDA SIIATTEEN. Pr~~c-rty described ns A rectAnqulArly-
shaped parcei of l~+nd censisting of r~p~rexir+etely .~i1 ac~e toc~ted at the sauthwest
corner of ta Pel~a Av~nue and Magnolle 1lvenue~ z~nl~ West I.a Palnn 1lvenue. Property
presently ciasslft~d CL (Commerci~l~ Limlted) Zone.
COHDITIO~IAL USE RE~UCST: TO ENI.ARGE At~ EXISTiNG pILL80l-RD iN TNC CL ZnNE wtTH
WAIVERS OF MAXIMUM DISPLAY ARE/1 AND NA?(IMtI-' 11EICtIT.
It was noteJ th~ petttioner had r~nuested a two•weel: cc+ntinuence.
IICTION: Commissioner tCing offered a m~tion~ seconded by Commisston~r poues and
MOT10~I CARRI E~, that cons i de rat lon of the afor~mr.nt irx+ecl i tem be cont 1 nued to the
regularly-schedulecf rt~eting ~f March ".2~ 1~182~ at the rectuest ~f th~ n~tltt~ner.
I TEM N0. ~
REPORTS ANO RECOMMENDATIONS
The following P,eparta and Recommendatlons staFf repores were presented h~t rx~t read:
A. CONDITI~IdAL USE PER~11T N0._ 1])~ - Rr~tuest fro~~ John Thnmson and Frrnk E.
~cox or a~~rov~ o revlye ~lans for ~mnerty {oc~~ted at ~31 S~~uth
4lestern Avenue. (Lutheran Olble Instltutc of Calif~rn~a)
John Thoms~n and t'rank E. 1lilcox, apnlic~nts, were present ta answer ~ny
questt~ns. !~r Thomson expl~tred thcy wish to construct e classrnom
bui lding wtilch .~' 11 consist of a library an~ one cl+~ssraen~ ~nd also are
requesting to charge the location of the swimming paol to get ft away from
th~ neighb~rs an:t ~llow better access bv the stud~nts. Concer~tng the
; perking, he ex~-lai~~ed the part:ing tat Is not fully used ~+t this time.
Mr. Thomson stated the schc~ol is up for accredttrtton and nceds a libra ry
that will hold l~,~t~ volumes.
ACTIOfI: Commisstoner ~:~rhst offer~d a n+~tlon~ seconded by Commissfoner
Bouas and NOTION GAft~ttEO~ that the Anahelm Clty Plnnning C~mmisslon does
heret~y flnd that submitted r~vlsed plans ere tn substanti~l conf~rma~ce with
praviously approw~d piens und~r Condittonal Use Permit N~.t?75 ~~tth the
exceptfon of the south p~r{:inc~ lat which wi 11 !,e r~located t~ Lht north
prevtous to the next phase of construction,
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MINUTES~ AkANEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. March 8~ 1982 82-1;4
~. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. Z~ - Request from h~bert l. Banner fo~
ter~n t~on o~C~ona se Permit No. 2Ay~! for p~op~rty located nt ~860
and ~A72 Mtreloma Avenw~.
ACTION: Commtasioner Y.Ing offe ~d Resalutlon No. PC~2- 3$ anci moved for Its
p~sssge and adc~ption thst the Anahelm Ctty Pl~nnln~ CoMmissla~ does hereby
terminate Conditional Use Permit No. 2~T4.
Qn r~~~ call. the faregoing resolution was pessed !+y the folic~wtng vote:
AYE~. COMMISSIONCRS: aARNES, 90t1AS~ QUSIIOPE~ FRY, t1~RtIST~ KIN~~ McBURNEY
N~~ :~ : COMMI SS I ONE RS : NONC
F-SCNT: GOMMI SS I ONERS : f10t~E
C. CONDITIONAt, USE PERMIT N0.__1F,35 - Request frn-n John P. t~tch far ter~ninatton
0 on t o~a Use erm t o. 35 for property loc~ted at t400 S~uth H~~hor
3oulevArd.
ACTION: Cormissi~ner ~:ing ~ffered Pesoiution Nc~. PCR?-;~ And m,ved for itt
pesseye and acioptton that the Anaheim City planntna Cortrissten dees herehy
terminate Conditia~ai Use permtt Ilo. 1t'3~.
On roll call, the for~going resolutinn was p~+-4ed hy the follc~wing vo•.e!:
AYES : CO~IMISS i^NEP,S : t3ARNES ~ Ot1UA~ ~ 611SHORF , FPY ~ HERt+ST ~ KI N~ ~ McBURNEY
NOES ; CONNI SS I ONERS : t10NE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: ft~NE
^~
D. CONDITIA~IAI U5~ PERMIT N0. 17~ - P,equest f~om Joh~i R. Mlch for termination
o~ f.ondt tioneT vse Perm~~t tb. 173f fo~ pr~perty loceted at 1~-f1~ South Herbor
Doulevard.
ACw TION: Commisstoner M.ing offered Resolutian No. PC82-~+~ and moved for its
paRSage and adaptton th~t tt+e An~ahetm City Planning Cammission dor~ hereby
terminatc Conditional Use Permlt tlo. 173h.
0~ roll call, the foreyotnc~ resolutlon was passed bv the folla~ri~g vete:
AYES : COMMI SS I ONERS : Ul1RRIES ~ BOUAS ~ tiUSNOP.E , FRY ~ IIERaST~ KI NG, 11c8URNEY
NOE~ : CQFIMI SS I ONE RS : NOHE
AtiSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
3/8/82
MIt1UTtS~ Al111NEIM CITY PLANNING CAMMISSI4N~ Merch 8, 19Q2 82-135
E. VARIANCE NOS. 268A and 2828 - P,enues~ frn• theedore '^dor~ff '.~r t+n
extens an o t~no or Var ance Nos. 2rg8 and 28?P~ for prope~ :y loc~+t~d At
thc southwest corner of Ls Paima l1o•enur a~d Ant~hetm ~oulevArd.
ACTIOt~: r,o,~„nissi~ner King o~fered a matton~ sQCen~ted by Conx++issioner Elernes
~~ M TION CARRIED that the An~hrtr+ City Plannir~c~ Com~nisslon dc~es hereby
grant five-year extensi~ns of t1rt,~ f~r Varience ~bs. 2~,C8 end 2~28 t~ expire
March ;1, 1987.
F. RECLASSIFICIITION N0. 7- 8-~~5 - Pequest from ;.31vin Neekhef fer a~ extenslon
~LT ~r pr~~erty Tocat~ spproxim~tely 1~~2 feet on the w~yt s(de of
Western Avenue~ approximately ll'~ feet north of the c~nt~ritne Af Qall R~~d.
ACT I ON: Commi ss tonc r Y. i ng of f~red A f110C I An' ~econded hv ~~~t ss loner Bn~nes
an-iT~F~T10N CARRIED~ thet th~ 1lnahcim City Plennin~ Commtss-~n do~s h~reby
grant a one-ye~r extenslon of tin~ for Reclnssificnttcx~ ~la. 77-;~-GS to
expire on March 13, 1nA3.
G. VAP,IA~ICE HI1. 2515 - Request frar~ Ilt~rold Abedor~ h-^^v Furn~ t~~rr Ltqutd~tors.
o~clar~ Ic~ at o of permt tted uses f~r pre~erty lc~cnted at 1225 South State
Colleye Boulevard.
Ilaral~l Abedor~ ~pplican[~ Qxplained he is the owner ~f ~+-Day Fu~nttu~e
liquldators, end that tl~ey prescntly have onc liccnsee~ h~it +vould likP to
have the {ndividuels as Iicensees. 11e stateci he proposes to h~ve
approxin~tely 1~ vendors in the hcginning and that he is going te ftle an
appllcatlon f~r a c4nditlonel us~ ~ermit tc~ allaw as n~~ny r~s 5~ itcens~es.
Ilo steted alsa they would lika to start advertising And th~ original permlt
daes not ailc~w advertising. Ile expla'neA the h~il~dino has been partttioned
and all the dcalers would Ii{;e t~ be repr~sentcd by their own name; that he
thought. therc are approximately (~~ par~ing sh+~ces and that hts brot~er
obtalned the ariqtr.al use per~nit in 1~73. tle clArlfied the n~ly thin~ to
chanye wou1G be the rlqht to advertise.
Chalrman Bushore Sta-~d the applic~nt is presently violnting the oriqinAl
~onditional use permit and t5 her~ because the venAors h~ve heen denied
business licenses. fle added it sounds like the uses would be toa hi~ for
this propertY.
Mr. Abedor ~tated there would ~~ n~ more than 10 vendors there at any o~e
time and they wi11 be open eventngs and weekends. He explained !he sr-aceS
represent diFfe!~nt manuf~c.turers with grouns of furnitur~, wtth maybe ane
iicensee havinq 1~ spaccs for bedreom furniture. Ne explalnec~ 75? of the
bus'ness wc~uld be wF.~lesale and 25$ retri 1.
Commisstoner ~!e~h,st felt this use is i+ -iol~tlen of thc original approval
and a publtc hearing should be heid to consider a ner~ ~e rn,it because thts is
industrialiy ~o~ed pro~ rty and thp Co~+isslon shoulc praceed wlth cautlon.
t~e fclt the n~w applicatlon should bG flled taday.
Jact:~lhite~ Asststent City Attorney~ stated the anly thtnq before the
Plenning Commission is e reouest for clari'~catlon of ~rmitted uses And
suggested the applicant file for a new conditio~al u~e ~ermit an~ the
Planning Conxnission should ccnsider setting a hearina t~ either modify or
terminate the existinc~ use varierce; th~t if the requ~stec~ new c,onditiona~
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MINUTES~ ANANEIM CITY PLANNING C~MMISSION~ M~rch ~3, 1~A2 ~?.-t3~
usa permlt w~s donled~ the Cammtssi~m wouid stili h~ve the outst+~ndinc~
variance and would havo ta find whether or not he Is In vtalaxion of
existtn~ condittans and olther mr~dtfy er add t~ those conditlons h;~ ltn+itin~
the numher of vendors permt!ted, edvertisine~, etc.
Commtssione~ Fierbst potnteci out staff c~n pr~vt~ie the ~pplicnnt InfermAtlon
as to whst us~ns have !+eon allowed~ etc. He iteted the appllcant sheuld be
ewar~ thr~t he ts in vtolatt~n of the ~riglnal ap~roval and a hearlnq on thAt
matter will be heid at the same tin~.
M~. Abedor stated he undrrst~nds end che reeson he Is hrre is b~cause th~t
sre~ hes chenged so much in th~ lnst 1~ years with nlmost 2/3 being used for
retal 1.
ACTION: Comr•+issloner 11erNst offered ~ mntion~ sec~nded by Commlssloner Y~inq
an M TIQtJ CARRIED (Chairmen ~ushc~re helnc~ nhsent), thnt thls mettrr he
constdered et o publlc F-eertng on Aprii ;~ 1~182~ to consider mndif~catt~n or
t~rmination ot Varien u Iio. 2515•
Jac4: White oxplained thi• action does not inltl~t~ n new tondtttonal ~ise
permit, and th~ appllc::nt shhuld fil~ for that ds sc-on As possible so the
heering ct~n be hr.ld at the sHmr ttme and tt should bc fil~d by tlednesday.
March 1~~ tn order tn he Me~rd on A~ri) 5~ tA8?.
li. PARKING CODE P,EVISi~ : STUDY - Corrnents from th~ P1Anninc~ Commisslnn
pert~ n ng th o ra t rr.so uti~n of A propnsed pa~l•in~ ordinance.
Respcxi~fing to Chairrnan dushore~ P~ul S(nger~ Traffic Ennlneer~ stnt~~' the
CQmmisston re~efved ~ frirly gc~ai hriefing fron Nr. r,r~~nspan ~nd ~Iscussed
thc plan at the wo~k scssion; end that he baslcallv a~rces wi+h the R~~Pesed
revisions. I~e st~ted certain st~ndards for design of the driveways and
parktng structures wi ll be ~velop~d as recon+~enden and the ?.oni;~~ Code
M~endrt~nt ~~i t l ba quf te rtiodern nnd fiexihte and should be ap~,! ied very
cauttously. tle sta~ted the Cortrnlsslon wi11 prohahly be gettt~q some
unreesonabi~e r~quests from dcvclock!rs heca~ae tFe Cade wtll pmvide such r~
provtsion~ if it ts spPrev~d. I~e st~tcd It will be stnff's responstb111ty
ta eval uat~ thc requests and rr~~kc recornrtx3ndat lons and i t wt i l be up to tF+e
Planning Commission to be very cautiou~ tn hcyw much c rytng they will let the
dev~loper da to get r~ducttans tn pAr'>:f~c~. i~e ststed he feels this wttt
resuil In mare e~tuitablc req:~tr~ments fcr pa~king.
Cha) rman 6ushare tndi cat~d ~~ncern that th~r~- would be no rectui rements for
aingle-Family structurex 2o h~ve at 1e~~sr two s~r~ces encl~sed an~ he thaught
that adds to the y~+~11tti~ of the community E1e was also concerned about
spaces in the inr~.•strlAl .~rea being used for outdoor stora~p.
Mr. Singar star . this is wnere the ~'ianning Commission would requlre that
those spacaa be availablP for parkir,g and not ~sed for stara,q~c. He ~tated
it is po. ~ible lcss parking than requirfd woutd be needed and wich t.~e help
of a stud~~ the Pla~ning ConmissEon couid determine to requir~ less spaces
and require that the parking I~ri be designed ln such a way that accass would
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NI-~t1TES~ ANlWEIM CIrY PLANNINC COMMISSIaN~ March $~ 1~82
62-137
not be obstructed and a portton could be fonced t~ pr~vide on-~ite outicx,r
s toraye.
Chalrmnn dushore painted out uses ch~+ng~ co~stantly.
Commissloner Ilerbst agreed there arr. Industrtal uses r~ith excesslve unused
parking; using ~ facllfty across the street from his place of business as an
axample where merchandtse ts hr~unht In hy reil and they only have 5
employees. fle nc~ted~ howevar~ prohlems could arise if anothcr us~ such as
n+~nufa~turing c:ame in with more em~loyees.
Conmissloner Fry stated, historic~llv ~v~r~il~ wlth r~ f~w ts~lnted
exceptlons~ Anahelm has don~ pr~ with parkln~ r~~uirements. Ile
stated his rcal concern i~ ~•~Ith ~arklnq.
Commissloncr Ilcrbst steted hc ts r+lso concerned ~,hout b~nuses for bus bays,
etc. and didrt't thtnk Anahelm ts nrepnred far anything like th:~t s~nce Ne
Jon't have public trans~rtatlo~. iIG wag a!so concerned About dua) uses
such as thc Civic CCntcr parking structure and what tv~e c~nt ml there wc~uid
be.
Mr. ~inger stated no parking is permitted an erter'ai str~ets In th~
industrla) aret+ and if an .rw-x•r or -~usin~ssr+~n doe~s n~t provtde nclequat~ on-
slte parklnc~ for hls employees and cus;omers. the~e Htll be a prabtem.
Concerning the corx}w rcial-recrentlon area, Hr. Stnger ~~ated he felt thare
should I,~ no waivcrs granted for r~rking in that ArFO; and Instcad
developers should hP re~uired tn pay a very suhstrnL~A1 f~e~ the ~~n-e as it
would cast to construtt par~inc;~ and the Clty of /Inahcim shoutd cc+nstrutt a
very large (up to t~~-1~7) space Q~~-:ing structure with hrtdgc:s directly
across l~arbor, Katclia ~nd Wcst Streets. He stated this will CAUSP r~n
fncreas!~ tn the nuni~er of av.~tleblc hotel rc~or~, etc. ~Ie stnted the
developer~ of the hatels cA uld be renufred to pey the CttY the exact cost of
the per~:ing spaces and the stn~ctu~e ct~uld be bui lt in lncrert+ents as the
money is u~llected. lie stat~d the repc-rt hAS a chr~oter of ~uidelines for
hotel part.ing ~equirements.
Commisslaner 4a~nes stated she has a prablen+ with tha r~cdicAl of~ice
re4ulr~ments discussed on page i~ and 11 because it recorm+ends d~creASina
the perkin~ requtrements from f, to ;.5 when medicai offices are adJacent to
a hhspital and noted therc is a definite prahlem At Anaheim NeMOris+l
Nospital.
Mr. Stnger sLAted the medical offices actually have adequate parking. but
they do nc~t get reciprocat par~:l~g aqreements with the hosoltal and tti:.•
proDlem is caused by emplayees of th~ hospital. He statr.d the repart
recommends thai hospitals ~rovtde mn~e pt+rklnq.
Gommissfaner Y,tng refrrred to problems of rennvat of strcet trees and Mr.
Singer replied sny tir-c removAl of a tret ts invc~ived~ a scparete action is
requircd and noted even a lbrge tree c~n successfe,ily be relocated.
Commissioner pouas questibned o discrepancy concsrning sp~+ces required for
banks with drive-through wins~aa~s and Mr. Singer indtcated the figure
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MINUTCS~ ANANEIM CITY PLANNING COMfSISSIQN~ 11rrch 8~ 1992 82•13q
contstned fn the tebl~ ts correct. 5he alse questloned renuired spacas fer
fast food reat~urants. Mr. Singer replted the current ~eq~iirerrKnt Is for
c~no spece for each 6~) square feet and the recemmendAtlon ts for 18 spaces
for 1~An~ sq~are fent and that ts h~sic~ily thc same~ lust r~-worded in
order to make it uniform stnce everythtng e~re fs keyed tc, the square
footege of a hullding.
OOan Sherer~ Assistant Planner~ stnted this cl~~n~e would )ust about dauble
the parking required for fost fc~od rest.~urants.
Commissloner Bouas referrod to comments partalntn~, to rACquptbell end tennls
courtr~ and the requireme~nts t~esed on the AncillAry uses and asked how this
would affect coin-operated facilitl~s simllAr to these in AnAheim.
Mr. Singer replied the developer would provt~ie whAt is recc~mrnended ar con~e
up with ~casons why they shouldn't; and then a s;udy would Fave tc be made.
Ile stetod thPSe changcs will provide tf~e flexihillty t~ pr~vtd~ a rensonnbl~
am~unt of parktng~ stating Lhe City docs not want to penailzr_ owners by
requiring them to provide tn~ much parl:lnh but ~+lso dr~es not w~snt t~ come up
short.
Commissioner pouas referrad to the rc±cur:xr~ndt~tfon that mokcls wlth kttch~ns
be caiculated the san~ as multi-frr^Ily us~s and asked if that would mean
those spaces must be ~nclased. Mr. Singer res~onded the rP~rt r~f~~rs to
thc nunber.
Dean Sh~rer responded to Commissto~~tr llcrbst that now that stnff hns heard
the Commisslon's co~m~ents~ they wilt prPper~ i draft erdinanc~ +~nd hrtnc7 it
boe~;~ prc~bably in 1~ to F we~ek~.
Commisstoner ~arnes stated she Is wtt 11 concerned al~out parkinq for r+x~dical
offices and suggested staff find out rrhet othcr cittea reouire and she felt
the parki~g should be tncreased rather than decreased.
CortKnisslon~r I~e~b~t referred t~ parking for crxidominiur.~s tn the hill and
canyon area betause af privatc roacls~ etc. and staLed hc felt the
reouirement shoutd rematn at 3.~ spaces per unlt.
Mr. Singer stated the prohlem with prtv~te roads -s th+~t parkinc~ is not
allvwed on erteria) st~eets and thet has not been done thrUUghout the
flatlend, but is currently being done.
Nnnika Santalahtt~ Asststant Directer for Zoninc~~ st~ted a I~t of th~
condominlums (n the hillslde area were butlt with larcx unlts and t~e oede
was ame~ ded to 2.5 for units under 1~22; square f~et.
ADJOURtIMENT the~e being no further business, CoRVnt~siener N~rhst offered a motton,
sec~ded uy Corm~issionar Fry anci MOTIAPI CARRIED~ that the meetlnq be
aJJaurncd t~ Ma~ch 9~ 1~62, ?:Ob p.n.
The meettng was adJourned at ~+:55 p.m.
Respectfut ly submi tted~
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Edtth L. I~arris~ Sacret~ry
A.nahatm C1ly Planning CommisaTan 3/n/$2