Minutes-PC 1986/01/06REGULAR MEETING OE THE ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
RECULAR MEETING The regular meeting of the Anaheim City Planning
Commission was called to order by Chairwoman La Claire
at 10:00 a.m., January 6, 1986, in the Council
Chamber, a quorum being present, and the Commission
reviewed plans of the items ot~ today's agenda.
RECESS: 11:30 a.m.
RECONVENBD: 1:35 p.m.
PRESENT: Chairwoman: La Claire
Commissioners: Bouas, Fry, [?erbst, Messe, McBurney
ABSENT: Commissioner: Lawicki
ALSO PRESENT:
Anni'~a San~alahti Assistant Director for Zoning
Mdlcolm Slaughter Deputy City Attorney
Joseph Fletcher Deputy City Attorney
Jay Titus Office Engineer
Paul S~n~er Traffic Engineer
Greg Hastings Associate Planner
Kendra hlorries Assistant Planner
Edith Harris Planning Commissio^ Secretary
MINUT~'S FOR APPROVAL: Cammissior.er McBUCney offered a motion, seconded by
Commissioner Bouas and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Lawicki absent) that
the minutes of the meetings of Novembec 25, and December 9, 1985, be
approved a~ submitted.
ITEM NU. 1 EIR NEGATIVE OECLARATION, RECLASSIFICATION N0. 84-85-43__AND
VARIANCE NO. 34°U
PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: LUCION W. AND BARBARA MYLES, 2609 W. Savanna
Street, Anaheim, CA 92804 and ROBERT Z. AND LINDA L. ADAIR, 3623 {7.
Savanna Street, Anaheim, CA 92804 and JAMES ~. AND KATHLEEN ANh PICKART,
3621 W. Savanna Street, Anaheim, CA 92804. AGENT: WESTERN PACIFIC
2ROPERTIES, ATTN: RAi SEMAZN, P.O. Box 5370-319, Santa Ana, CA 92804.
Ptoperty described as an irregularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of
approximately 1.76 ~cres, 3609, 3613 and 3621 West Savanna Street.
RS-A-43,000 to RM-1200. Waiver of maximum structural height to construct
a 95-unit apattinenr complex.
Continued fro~ the meetings of July 22, August 19, Novembec 13, 1985.
Kendra Merries explained sta:f had received a letter requesting that
subject petition be wi.thdrawn.
ACTION: Comm:ssioner Herbst offeced a motion, seconded by Commissioner
McBurney and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Lawicki absent) that
consideration of Reclassification No. 89-85-43 and Varzance No. 3499 be
with~rawn at the cequest of the petitioner.
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ITEM N0. 2 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION iREADV.) GENERAL PLAN AMENPMENT NO;
204, RECLASSIFICATION NO. 85-86-15, WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENTl_
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 2726 (READV.) CONDYTIONAL USE PERMZT N0. 2727
(READV.) AK^. REQUEST FOR WA:VER OF COUNCIL POLICY NO. ~43
OWNE~S: CALIFORNIA LUTHERAN HOMES, 2312 S. Fremont, Alhambca, 91603.
AGENT: Ell A. STRUTHERS, 721 N. Euclid St., M307, Anaheim, CA 92801,T. A.
Jone~ z Assoc., 485 E. 17th st.. ~608, Costa Mesa, 92627. Property
described as a rectar.gulacly-shaped parcel of land consisting of
approximatel}~ 10.6 acres, located at the northwest corner of Ball Road and
Walnut Street, 691 S. Walnut Street (Walnut Manor).
To consider alternate pcoposals of ultimate land use, including, but not
limited to low density cesidential, low medium density cesidential and
medium density residential uesignation.
RS-A-43,00~ to RM-1200 oc a less inr_ense zune.
To permit a 3-stocy, 134-unit a~fordable senior citizens apartment complex
and a 95-bed skilled nursing facility in conjunction with the existin~
senioc citizens retirement facility ~ith waivec of minimum building site
acea per dw:lling unit.
ACTION: C~.!issioner Herbst offeced a motion, seconded by Commissioner
McBurney an~ MOTION CARRIED (COmmissioner Lawicki absent) that
cons~deration ot subject petition be continued to the regularly-scheduled
meeti.ng o: Januacy 20, 198G, at staff's request in order for petitions to
he readvertised to include an additional waivec.
ITEM NO. ~ EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION, WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT AND
CONDI~IUNAL USE PERMI: NO. 2'.38
UWNERS: EUCLID STP.EE': BAPTZSl CHURCd OF ANAHEIM, INC., 1408 S. Euclid
Street, Anaheim, CA 92&02, ATTN: CHRISTOPHER LOWTHER. AGENT: HOPE
UNIVERSITY, P.O. Box 4818, Anaheim, CA 92802, ATTN: GEORGE NEWMAN, SR.
Psoperty desccibed as an ircegularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of
approximately 3 acre~s, located at the noctheast corner of Buena Vista
Avenue and Euclid Stc°et; 1408 South Euclid Street (Euclid Street Baptist
Church).
^v permit Hope Univecsity, an elementary schonl, a pre-school, and to
construct a 2-story, 8-unit housing facility in conjunction with a church
with wai~•ers of (a) required setback of playground area, (b) min. number
of parking spaces, (c) max. fence height adjacent to Euclid Street and (d)
max. stcuctural height adjac~nt to single-family 2oning.
There were approximately thirty-nine persons indicating their presence in
opposition to subject request and four persons indicating their presence
in favoc cf subject request, with one person indicating she would like to
speak in favor and approximately eight people indicating they would like
to speak in opposition, and although the staff report was not read, it is
refecred to and made a past of the minutes.
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Gcegory w. Sandecs, ittocney, 3200 Park Center Dcive, Costa Mesa 92G26,
representing Euclid Street Baptist Church, referced to a letter written to
the Commission la.>t week asking for a two-week continuance in order for
him to meet with some of the neighbors in the area to try and resolve some
of the alleged pr.oblems. He explained he did meet with Mr. O'Neil from
the neighborhood on two occasions, but would like the opportunity to meet
with more of th~ neighbochood cesidents.
rhaicwoman La Claice explained this matcer was co~tinued from the meeting
of Novembet 25, 1985r in o[der for the petitioner to meet with the
residents and she did not think the issues have changed and did not think
a continuance would be beneficial.
Mr. Sanders explained Mr. O'Neil i,°, a spokesman for a group of neighbocs
and he did meet with him cn two occasions and the problem is that he was
not present at the previous hearing in November and believed he could
bring some fcesh ideas and approaches to the problem to help minimize some
of the dif.ferences and thought a con::inuance would be beneficial foc him,
the neighbors, the church and the Commission if some of the outstanding
problems could be cesolved.
Chai~woman La Claire statec' che Commission feels that they should go ahead
with this hearing since a continuance was previously granted for this same
purpose. She explained if it seemsevident after some of the testimony has
been presented that a continuance should be granted, it could be granted
later during the neeting.
Mz. Sanders stated one of the main issues seems to be the traffic impact
on the neighbochood; that apparently thece are a rumbec of drop-offs and
pick-ups during the day fo~ students attending the pre-school and
elementary school existing on the site and the favored ingress and egress
point is Edda Lane at the ceac of the church pcoperty which is in the
middle ot the ~esidential neighborhood. He stated in an attem1~t to
minimize the Craffic impact on the neighborhood, they wuuld propase
restricting the use of the Edda Lane access in an effoct to decrease the
traffic using that access and all of the traffic would be required to use
Euclid Avenne and that would reduce the impact on the nei9hbochood by
about 658.
Mr. Sanders stated the second alleged pcoblem concerns noise and that the
playground is iargely responsible for most of the noise. He stated he
understands the City of Anaheim and County of Ocange have both conducted
sound tests to measure the amount of noise and there wece no violations of
any noise ordinances and they do not think the noise is as big a problem
as has been alleged. He stated in an attempt to fucther minimize
prcblems with the ~eighborhood, they wouZd pcopose removing the playground
from the parking lot, which impacts several lots, and move it to the
cornec of Euclid and Buena Vista which would limit the impacts to about
one oc two homes i~i the neighbochood and this would also make the drop-off
and pick-up of the children much safer.
M:. Sanders stated thece was a concecn regatding invasion of privacy and
apparently that is the result of windows in the second stocy of a building
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which t~.cks up to the [esidences in the neighborhood and he understands
all of those windoHS on the second story are frosted glass and it is
impossible to see into the backyards of tne neighbors and all the windows
are supposed to be screwed shut and if they are not, they will be, and
they will put an effort into seeiny that that situation is monitored to
mahe sure they remain shut.
Mr. Sanders stated in fairness to the Commission, the neighborhood and the
church, the cather ccitical issue is the presence of the pre-school and
elementary school on the property and all these problems flow from that
situation. He stated the church would like to move the school to another
location entirely out of this neighborhood and they would propose a
condition included in the conditional use pecmit that would cestrict Che
presence of the schools to no moce than 3-1/2 yeacs from the date of the
conditional use permit and at the end of the 3-1/2 years, the pre-sctool
and elementary school would no longer be permitted uses on the propeity.
Mr. Sanders stated the property will probably be so2d to Hope University,
and in about three years, Euclid Stceet Baptist Church and schools will be
transitioned out to a new location in Anaheim Hi.lls, and Hope University
would be tcansitioned in and they expect that the schools aill be gone
much sooner that the 3-1/2 years, but they cannot foresee all
contingencies and would like to be ablwouldhauarantee that both schoolsn
that propecty, and then in 1989, they 9
would be gone and that most of the major problems would be 9one.
Concernin9 the off-site parking issue, Mr. Sanders explained a study was
prepared by Justin Farmec, a iraffic Engineer, who physically measured the
impact of off-site parking in the neighborhood and found that on a typical
Sunday morning, a maximum of 8 vehicles were parking off-sita on the
residential street, and they did not think that was as lazge an impact as
originally indicated; nowever, they do believe theic property is large
enough to park all vehicles using the church pcoperty and propose to wotk
with Hope Univecsity in testriping the parkin~ lot and making sure that
there are e~ough spaces on-site for parking all vehicles and to constantly
remind the people using the school to park on the school property.
Mr. Sanders referced to Condition No. 5 proposed regarding removal of the
southerii driveway on Euclid Street and added they feel that should be
eliminated as a condition because if their traffic plan is instituted,
they will have to have as much access on Euclid Street as possible an~.
would like to have both access points on Euclid Street pceserved. He
ceferred to Condition No. 14 regarding removal of the portable classroom
trailers within 30 days and stated they would find that an intelerable
burden on the school and would pcopose tt~e trailecs be allowed to remain
to the conclusion of the current semester, ~l• which time they would be
cemoved. Concerning Condition No. 15, regardinr cesttiping of the parking
lot, Mr. Sanders stated they would like more time to comply with that
condition in order to work with Hope University officials to make sure
they maximize their efforts.
Joyce Howerton, stated she own~ ptopecty at 1660 Chanticleer, and
explained she moved in that house in 1972 and raised he[ children in that
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neighborhood and is also in the process of purchasing another property on
Chanticleer. She added she has seen this school since its inception :nd
has had total cooperation from Reverend Bryan Crow. She added the City's
own report indicates there is no noise ot tcaffic problems; that som~hat
people who signed the petitions live over 1/2 mile from the school,
she has had no problems with it; that it is directly across f~om Loara
High School and theeacsVe She statedctheretwasfaccomplagnttabout £umeslat
the time over the y 12 students at this
7•30 in tne motning and explair.ed thece are only
school at 7:30 in the motning. She stated m~esent~because1Rev1dVCrowen
hece to suFoort this petition, but ace not p that this
announced in church yestecday and again at school this morning
meeting was goin9 to be continued and there are people who have to work
and did not take time off to come to this meeting. She explained Rev.
Ccow is not present because he was told the meeting would be cancelled.
She added there is suppoct foc this school and it has been a goodoundool
and there are not more than 5 houses wtiich bacR up to that playg
She added a show of hands in favoc and in opposition to this request at
this time is not appcopciate.
Joe O'Neil, 1408 S. Adria, referred to the wcitten correspondence
submitted to summarize theic meetings with Hope University and explained
it was a well-attended, good meeting and was very informetive toximately
subsequent to that, the neighbors had anothec meeting with app
45 to 50 people attending and asked if CUP No. 1170 permits the school.
Chairwoman La Claice explained this mattec has been discussed with the
City Attocney's Office and the Commissioners have read the correspondence
from the Planning staff and the Director of Planning to the chu~ch and it
is the Commission's opinion that, although there is some q,uestion
tegarding the day-cace centet, thece is no question that thece is no
permit for the elementacy school.
Mr. U'Neil stated the latest pruposal before the Commission seems to be a
step in the opposite direction; that thece was indication for a thcee year
phase-out pcogram at the beginning which is now being discussed for 3-1/2
years; and stated there is a problem getting such uses off the pcoperty
once they are there. He stated they a~e especially concerned because the
school is not an entitled use and they have not complied with the Codes.
tdr. 0'Neil stated the traffic discussed today refe~red to on-street
parking and that is not the peoblem, but cicculation is the ques~heceawill
they believe as long as the entrance on Edda Lane remains open,
be a p~oblem and the staff repoct does not even address that pcoblem;
however, the staff did mention that and stated the use of that entrance
should be discoucaged. Concerning moving the playground, he stated he did
not know when the noise readings were taken, but he has heard some of the
noise and it is vecy loud and moving the playground closec to the
residents would be a problem which would not be solved for 3-1/2 or more
years. He stated obviously the trailecs are a Code violatioa which needs
to be addcessed immediately.
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Mr. O'Neil stated there ace ovet 300 signatures on the petitions in
opposition and the neighbors ace conceraed fuatherl tHe addedethe n the
site need to be addressed before going Y
university is no longer an issue.
Do~othy Rubin, 1574 Chanticleer, stated ~esentedlin oppositionrinsubmitted
and petitions with 125 signatuces wece p
November, and she is adding 21 additional letters and petitions containing
135 additional signatures for a total of 45 lettecs and 311 signatures and
explained these ace the immediate residents adjacent to the subject
propetty. She stated M~s. Howerton who spoke in favor of the tequeL~ aonS
not live in the neighborhood at present, even though she owns prop Y
Chanticleer. She stated she lives directly accoss the street £rom .1677
Chanticleer which is the pcivate cesidence owned by the church and she
would want to question why this home has not been listQd in the request
for CUP No. 2738 because resentedeat thedprevioussmeetmngfshowed 40 chairs
and the Qhotogcaphs she p
in that structure. She stated they believe those 40 children have been
moved upstairs in that home and that the immediate neighbocs have seen and
heacd them and that this has taken place since the November Planning
Commission hearing and the Fire Department and neighbors are very
concexned about the safety of those childrehaveStheSOptionHtoepurchaseity
officials informed the neighbars that they
that same house ana it has 4 bedrooms and~ol~s°oratecreationaleareas,Wall
be used by Hope University for temporary
guest home for toucists, etc. until the new dorms are built and they want
that house ~eturned to its original use as a residence. She stated since
the last heacing, the neighbors have noted a re-direction of traffic in
the drop-off and oick-up of students and the neighbots on Bayless,
Lullaby, Loara, Chanticleec and Edda Lane have noticed avaouesnandatheyn
traffic and this cannot possibiy enhance their pcoperty
would urge the Planning Commission to deny this ~equest.
Bruce Newell, 1679 Buena Vista, stated he is speaking on behalf of the
petition signers and letter writers on Buena Vista Avenueanotheron
November 27, 1985, just tNO days after the last hearing,
advertisement appeared in the PennySavec soliciting stude~ts for the
Euclid Stceet Baptist Chu~ch School and presented a copy of that
PennySaver as evidence. He stated it is cleac to the tesidents that Rev.
C~ow does not plan to decrease the number of students or if he does, he
plans to build the numbers up ficst and then make the promised
~eductions. He asked what would pr.event another school from legally
starting in the place of the church school, if thwiLCOyole1Universityeonit
is approved. Mr. Newell stated at their meeting P
December yth, Mr. Vincent Lupo stated that Rev. Crow had offeced the
p[operty fo[ sale to three othec sch~hesexistinglschooltandathe Hope
condi~ional use permit is needed by
Univetsity is incidental.
Regarding school traffic, Mc. Newell explained Reverend Crow has made a
proposal to make gceater usage of the entraxice on Euclid Street which will
give some relief to the cesidents on Palai. Road and Edda LanQ, but will
probably cceate a bottle-neck at the intersection; that the tcaffic ~epo[t
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indicates that in the first year between 7:30 and 8:30, 105 trips will be
made into the ptoperty and 105 trips will be made out of the property for
a total of 210 trips or 3.5 vehicles per minute during tliat peak traffic
period and that is a heavily travelled road and is a great concecn.
Concerning the request Yor the housing units on the corner of Buena Vista
and euclid, he stated it is their request that no permit be granted
because the residents of Buena Vista Avenue have cegularly conplained
about the hospital staff and visitor's cars parked on both sides of the
street causing real problems and ane resident reported a neac-miss on
January 3, 1986. He stated moce vehicles using the street would only
inccease this problem. He stated he did not want a pecmanently occupied
hostel or docmitory building with 24-hour activities next to his home. He
stated the Commission is well aware there was na school operating on the
corner of Buena Vista and Euclid Street until 9 months aftec he purchased
his home in 1y81, and, in fact, the school site was not on record until
1982, and after Rev. Crow was told to get a conditional use permit. He
stat.ed John Poole, ~ode Enforcement Supervisor, can confirm the
information that the church was informed to obtain a conditional use
permit in 1982.
Mr. Newell stated the code Enfoccenent Officers had the children removed
from the field adjacent to his home in July of 1985, and that they were
playing 15 feet from the property retained by a piece of rope stretched
accoss the acea, which often was falling down and his gardener, Gary
Deutsch, has written a letter stating that until July 1985, he could hear
children yelling and screaming over the noise of his power equipment, and
that now Rev. Crow's latest proposal is to put the children back into that
area which is zoned CL with a 25-Eoot area between them. He submitted the
gardener's let~ec for the recocd.
Mr. Newell played a tape recording made trom Mrs. Jean Dyer's yard t~ show
what they have to listen to 4 to 6 houcs a day, five days a week with
children yelling, etc. He stated that was recorded with only a few
day-care children pcesent on January 3, 1986. He stated if the Commission
has any doubts about the noise, John Poole can confirm the level of noise.
Mr. Newell stated Rev. C[ow is still operatin9 a school illegally, placing
considerable undue stcess on the er,tice neighbochood and he would request
this permit be denied.
Marilyn Richey, 1655 Palais, Anaheim, stated the residents of this area
have presented to the Commission, for the second time, a united L-ront with
a total of 311 signatuces of p[otest and produced 45 letters and testimony
of opposition to the school. She stated in a letter from the church's
attorney to the Commission on December 30, 1985, it was stated in writin9
and it has been implied by Rev. Crow many times that there has been some
confusion on the part of residents with regard to the traffic, noise,
parking, etc. and stated tt;ey are an intelligent, well-educated
neighborhood and there was no confusion on their part and they know
exactly what the issues are and why they are here and if there is any
confusion, it is on the pact of Rev. ~row. She stated in 1962~ Rev. Ccow
went through the proper legal proceedings establishing his church by
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having neighborhood meetings, approval of the Planning Commission, etc.;
however, since then he has expanded the uses without the usual legalitie.s
by saying it was his 'ignocance'. She stated they came today to this
meeting expecting the protection and help of the Planninq Commission,
which the City is supposed to provide, and they look to the Commission to
fol.low through with the cecognition of their problems. She stated the
residents would ask that the Commission close the present illegal schools
and thaC the pcoperty remain for a chucch as it is zoned and that
Conditional Use Pe[mit No. 2738 be ~enied.
Debbie Katz, 1678 w• Palais Road, explained he~ house backs up dicectly
behind the 2-story classroom facility and it was stated the windows on the
second floor ace screwed shut, but that is not true, and they are frosted,
but can be opened. She stated childcen and adult men look out those
windows in the ~ummer and she will not go into her backyard and the little
girl ne~t doot, 7 years old, will not play in he: backya~d because the
kids from the school laugh at her. She stated the noise is there from
approximately 7:30 a.m. until afler 5:00 p.m. and if there are only 12
students available that early in the morr~ing, they are really noisy. She
explained she does not wock and is home all day and she was not awace of
the problems until she stacted staying home last year.
Ms. Katz stated when the house was purchased, it was with the knowledge
that the church was there and the church isn't the problem and the school
would not be a problem, if it was not growing so rapidly and if the
students behave as if they had some adult supervision. She added the
adults who are there yell even loudec than the kids and that the Loara
High School Band plays across the stceet and is dcownded out by the yells
of the childcen. She added the lights ace left on in the second story of
that building at least once a wee~ and it does disturo her sleep. She
asked if the windows screwed shut Would create a fire hazard since there
is no other exit fcom the classtooms.
Howard Ritchey, 1655 Palais, cead a letter from Palma Vasile, 1694 W.
Palais, indicating opposition ta the pre-school and elementary school
existing on the property because of excessive noise, ~a~oblemmcausedeby
fenee around her pcoperty, a flagrant fice and health p
accumulation of pine needles, grass and tree ttimmings and general rubbish
and papecs against her fence and an infestation of rats, burglaries,
causing highec insurance p~emiums, broken water lines or malfunctioning
sprinklers on the church property causing flooding on her property and
decreasin9 pcoperty values.
Lillian De Valis, 1624 W. Chanticleec, stated it is unclear what Hope
University intends to use the property for and at the last meeting, it was
undetstood that they would be using the property in conjunction with the
Baptist Church. She stated it should be noted that the lady who apoke in
favo~ of this use is a membeco backutohthesrhurcht~ithoutnthehchildrentwho
the use of that pcoperty to g
are there illegally.
Mr. 3andecs stated they take the position that Conditional Us~ Permit No.
117U does allow for the presence of both the schools and the church and
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thete has been a historical pattern of use over the past several years
under the two conditional use permits on the pcoperty and the City has not
objected nor have the neighbors objected to the existence of the school
prior to this time and they ieel secure in the knowledge L•hat the use
permits cucrently in effect validate the uses on the property. Concerning
the question regarding the length of time the schools will be located on
the pcoperty, he stated the plan is to phase out the schools over a period
of 3-1/3 years and Mr. O'NEil indicated the assurance was given that the
school would be gone within 3 years and they would be willing to eliminate
the schools with:n 3 years, if 6 months makes that mucti difference.
Mc. Sanders stated concerning the ingress and egcess at Edda Lane, that
they have offered a traftic plan which will reduce the impact of traffic
on the neighborhood by 658 and eliminate the use of Edda Lane access.
Concerning noise, Mr. Sanders stated the City staff ineasured the levels of
noise and found no violations oi any of the City's ordinances with respect
to noise; that the presence of the trailers was mentiuned as a Code
violation and indicated he was not awacP of any Code violations caused by
the pcesence of the t[ailers; that all of the Code violations on site have
been detailed by the Code Enforcement Officers who visited the site and
all of those violations have been cuced; that the ~esidence located at
1667 Chanticleer has not been used by khe church for ovec 1 yeaz and
certainly not been used for the last month. He stated he ~ill assure the
Commission that the propecty will not be used by the church beyond the
time the pecmit is issued for anything and they uould not vi.olate the
conditional use permit. He explained they intend to abide strictly by the
permit. Mr. Sanders stated he did not believe the issue of propecty
values is a pcoper issue for this Commission to considet in their decision
on this application foc a conditional use pecmit. He explained there is a
recent U.S. Supreme Court decision regarding foster homes and the students
w1~u will be attending Hope University are categorized as "special' by the
U.S. Supteme Court and a:e granted special treatment under the
Constitution and that impacts certain land use decisions nade by local
governments. Regarding the issue of advectisements in the PennySav,er, Mr.
Sanders statad is it natutal for the churct~ school to want to perpetuate
itself and whether or not the school remains on the property or moves to
another location has nothing to do w.ith the presence of PennySaver ads and
the school is reccuiting students and it will move if the permit is
condicioned to force it to move within 3-1/2 yeacs. He referred to
comments made by a membec of the opposition cegarding his letter and
clar;fied that his lettec said that the neighborhood seems to be confused
about the intention of the church and wanted to make it clear that the
chucch intends to sell the pccperty to Hope University and move to Anaheim
Hills and also move the current pre-school and eiementary schools with the
chucch and they would be willing to accept a condition on the conditional
use permit that required the schools to move within 3 or 3-1/2 years.
~oncerning the windows and invasion of privacy issue, he stated the
windows will be secured and thar. he was not aware of any Code violations
resulting from that action. He added the issue of vandalism and tcash
were taised and he did not think the presence of the church and school
constitute a problem in that regard. ~e stated if vandalism is a problem,
the chuzch would like to know the specifics and take appropciate measures
to make sure tnat it does not happen again or te-occur while the chu~ch is
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Mr. Sandecs stated they have attempted to meet all of the objecticns of
the neighborhood in a reasonable manner and believe their plan is or wil.I
be one that will minimize or mitigate many complaints of the neighborhood
voiced today.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissionec Bouas asked how many pce-school students are enrolled at this
time. Mc. Sanders responded there are approximately 250 total students
encolled at this time, but did not know how many are pre-schoolecs.
Mrs. Rubin stated they presented documentation at the previous meeting of
seventy pre-school students and evidence that there are 260 students
enrolled and explained those aff=davits wece from the Community Services
Department of the County.
Gerald Busyore, 721 N. Euclid, Suite 201, Anaheim, stated he has been
workin9 with Rev. Crow foc the past three years and explained that the
numbec of pte-school students is limited by the playground acea, with one
student permitted pec 75 square feec of playground area and one student
per 35 square feet of inside area; howeve~, he did not know the exact
number of the enrollments, but they ace licensed fo: a maximum numbec of
students and thought the pre-school is below 70. He stated he is employed
to work for the school, but has trieuestion aboutttheVnumber fVStudentsd
the only person who can answer the q
is the school administrator.
Mc. Sandecs explained he is the only person gresent today who can speak
fac the school.
Commissioner McBUrney asked how many students are being requested by Hope
University. Mc. Sanders responded the University proposes a maximum of
100 students and a staff of 20. He stated the plan is to phase out the
existin9 schools and phase-in Hope univetsity and that Hi~pe University
plans would be restricted by their need to construct a facility on siHe
and that structute would begin as the existin9 schools are leaving.
stated they ace not proposing that all the uses be there simultaneously.
Chairwoman La Claire asked the puspose of the proposed residential units.
Mr. Sandecs stated that some of the parents of the students live quite a
distance from the facility and it would be impossible to transport the
students to the school daily, so tr~ey need to have a dormitory facility.
He stated he does not know how many students would be in each unit and
that pa~ents would stay with theic students in the residential units when
they come to visit.
Commissionec Messe stated a statement was made that no City or County
U*dinances were violated for sound, but that the letter indicates the:e
wete 66 times when the n~~se exceeded the County's limits.
Commissioner Hetbst stated Mr. Sanders had stated they feel the church and
schools are thete undez t~e authocity of Conditional Use Permit No. 1170
and that he has reviewed the cecocds which indicated the church was
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allowed with related activities, but that does not include an elementary
school, and a specific conditional use permit is required for a~
elementary school from the Planning Commission.
Mr. Sanders stated he believes the definition of 'related activitSes'
includes the school. Commissioner Herbst stated he would disaaree. and
that an elementary school with 250 students is a totally different
ballgame. He stated a conditional use permit is requiced which gives some
control over the use with conditions, etc. He added h2 has seen a lot o#
requests come befoce the Commission, but has nevec seen one so vague with
a chucch saying they are going to move in 3 to 3-1/2 years to Anaheim
Hills, and that he lives in that acea and has never seen anythin9 cmme
before the City that there is property available for tl~em to move to~and
asked how they know a church would be approved in that area. He stated
this request is too vague and he could not vote in favor of it ~ithout a
specific idea as to times, where they are moving, and how they will move,
etc.
Mc. Sanders stated they would agtee to a condition in tne conditi4nal use
petmit providing that the school must leave in 3 to 3-1/2 year~.
Commissionet Hecbst asked what would happen if the church does not hav~a a
place to relocate at that time and noted there have been several
conditional use permits exteiided ovet the years under similar
circumstances and that a lot of residents are affected by this use and he
felt they ace entitled to know exactly what is going to happen. Mr•
Sanders stated they are trying to pcovide a guarantee by saying they will
accept a condition saying the school has to relocate and then the
obligation will be on the church to find another site. He stated there is
a site in Ananeim Hills owned by the National BapGist Organization which
the chutch is going to acquice.
Commissioner Herbst stated he did not think 3-1/2 yeacs was soon enough
because these people have been putting up with this situation for a long
time and they have not complained because it was a church, but the use has
cut9rown the ptopecty and has out9rown its usefulness now and has to be
changed.
Mz. Sanders stated the 3-year time period was discussed with the neighbors
and it was his understanding that the 3-year phase out progcam was
acceptable with most of the neighbozs. He stated he had suggested that
this matter be continued so he could meet with the neighbors to find out
exactly what their problems were and pechaps come to a decision that would
be satisfactozy to both sides.
~ommissioner Hecbst stated the same problems were expressed in November
and the matter was continued at that time in order for the ct,urch to meet
with the neighbors and take care of the problems and there are 39 or 40
people p~esent today who have taken off work etc. to attend this meeting
and discuss the ptoblems.
Commissionec Fry stated he thought Mc. Sandecs had just found out first
hand what the neighbors really think and he agreed that 3 years is too
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long and he thought if the church owns the single-family cesidence on
Chanticleer and it is being used for purposes other than a residence, it
should be stopped immediately. fie added he is not opposed to a church in
this location or a pre-school, but he is vehemently cpposed to the
elementary schoo]. and would vote no on Conditional Use Permit No. 2738.
He stated he would not go along with a joint venture to add anything more
to this site. He stated he thought the elementary school should be
eliminated by the end of this semester in July of 1986.
Chairwoman La Claire stated there are some real legal issues involved
here; and that she has asked hecself khe question, 'what is the best the
Commission can do for the peopl= who live in the neighborhood?"; and she
is not asking that same question for the church because it is a business
and so is Hope Univecsity, even though they aee providing services foc the
community; and that the neighbors are the homeowners and desecve the
Commission's first consideration. She stated if the Commission denies
this request for a conditional use permit, the churci~ can continue to
oper.ate as a church and a pre-school and iL they eliminate the stucents
frcm th~ elementary school, they can increase the number of the pre-school
students. She stated, however, if the Commission approves the permit in
part, with some controls, such as eliminating the elementary school and
day-care center and limiting the maximum number of students for the Hope
University, the neighbors will be getting some relief of their current
problems. She stated if this is granted in part, the Commission could
cequire the closing of Edda Lane as an access and the trailers would have
to be cemoved right away and the number of pre-school students could be
frozen at 70 for a bcief period of time and that the elementary school
could be allowed to the end of this term in order to allow the parents to
find a new location for their students, and the constructiun of the
housing complex would not be allowed until all the activities of the
church are phased out, and no new students would be enrolled in the
pre-school or day-care center, and within 6 months thece would be no
school there, except Hope University for only 100 students.
Commissioner Herbst stated he would not want to deny this request, but
felt it should be granted in pact, denying the elementary school,
pre-school and housing units and noted approval of this request as
proposed, would make the existing schools legal. He stated he would want
to see the elementary school phased out at thF end of this school year in
1586. He added because of the letter written by the Planning Director,
the pre-school should be allowed as long as it is limited to 70 students.
He suggested the permit should be to permit Hope University for a maximum
of 100 students when the elementary school is phased out at the end of the
school yeat and the construction of the 2-story building units would not
be commenced until all the students and the church have relocated; and
that the trailers are in violation and shouid be removed at the end of
this term, July 1986; and all the Traffic Engineet'~ requirements should
be met regarding the parking and citc~±7ation.
Malcolm Slaughter, Deputy City Attorney, stated the ~ommission has 40 days
in which to act after the public l~earing is closed and he would suggest
:.hat because of the complexity of this issue the Commission disect staff
to prepace a resolution for their consideration at the next meeting
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containing the Commission's intentions to make sure t~.ie intergretations
have been pzoperly made.
Commissioner McBU~ney asked about the cequired number of parking spaces,
~aith Kendra Morcies expiaining the number ~equired is a cumululati notal
based on the square footage of the chutch and the student pop
total. She explained the number of parking spaces required may havp to be
amended with the proposed changes, but she would have to do some
calculations.
Chairwoman La Claire ex~lained it would be the Commission's intent to
permit flope University for a maximum of 100 students, to deny the
elementary school wich the existing school to be eliminated by the end of
this school tezm in July of 86 and denying the pre-school and permitting
the construction of the 2-story, 8-unit housing facility in conjuncti.on
wi~th Hope University to be constructed after all students have been
removed fcom the pcoperty, except the students elrolled in Hope University.
Cotnmissione~ Hetbst stated there has been some indication that the chu~ch
and Hope University intend to use the pLOperty as a dual use and explained
the pre-school would be permitt~d for a maximum of 70 students in
conjunetion with the church and the church would be enticely phased out
within 3 years.
Malcolm Slau9htec asked if the number of stu~ents being referred to is the
number en:olled or the number in attendance on a particular day. It was
noted the number referced to is the number of students enrolled.
Concerning the trailers, Chaicwoman La Claire stated the krailers wou.ld be
cemoved as of July 1966, and that the entrance on Edda Lane would be
closed as of July 1986.
Concecning ~.~ving the playground atea to the corner of Buena Vista and
Euclid Stteet and that it should be fenced, Mr. Sandets exQla:ned the
pte-school uses thE gymnasium andound to the cornerrbecausehthattisttheuld
be apprepriate to move the playg
neac~s'c legitimate playground area to the ~ym and church facilities. He
explained the playg[ound was moved from that a[ea originally and placed on
the parking lot.
Commissionec Herbst stated this is a conditional use pecmit and if the
condi*_ions are nut complied with, it can be considered for revocation ar.d
wanted che church t~ know that after reading all theandcbrdsiantinls~ho$
feels that the Plementary school is there i.ilegally Y 9 9
conditior,al use perw?t. they are still khere illegally and must move out
no latec than July, 1~86.
ACTIOtd: Commissioner Herbst offered a motian, seconded by Commissionez
Bouas ar.d MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Luwicki absent) that the Anaheim
City Planning Commission does here6y direct Planning Department staart,~to
prepare a resolution gcanting Conditional Use Permit No. 2735, in p
permit Hone ~niversity for a maximum of 100 mentally retarded adults with
the elimination of the elementary school by the end of the present schoel
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term, July 1986, that the pre-school shall be pe~mitted for a maximum of
70 enrolled st~dents in conjunction with the church and thJanuar•c1989h
and pce-school shall be eliminated by the end of 3 yea:s, i
that the construction of the 2-story, 8-unit housing facility shall be
permitted in conjunction with Hope University (constructi~~n not to
commence unti? all school and church activities have been eliminated) with
waivers of required setback of playgcound area, maximum fence height
adjacent to Euclid Street and maximu~ scructucal height adjacent to
single-family zoning, being granted on the basis that there are soe~aah
circ~mstances applicable to the property such as size, shape, top g P Y.
location and surroundings which do not apply to other identically zored
ptoperty in the same vicinity; and that strict application of the Zoning
Code depcives the property of pcivileges enjoyed by other p~operties in
the identical zone and classificatio~ in the vicinity; and further that
the waiver of minimum numbec of parking spaces be granted on the basis
that the parking waiver will not cause an increase ir. traffi~land9uses~and
in the immedial2 vicinity nor adversely affect any adjoining Will
granting of the parking waivec under the safettland general,welfare,of the
not be detrimental to the peace, healtY~, Y
citizens of the City of Anaheim, and subject to the petitione~~sert to
stipulation to record a covenant restric~ing tha nse of the prop Y
Hope University for 100 gifted mentally retarded adults and fucther
eliminating access to the site at Edda Lane, effective July 1986, and
cemoval of the trailers by the end of the school term, July 1986.
Mr. O'Neil stated the neighbors would like for the playground to stay
whece it is located now because moving it back to the corner would piace
it against the rteighbor~' p~operty again.
Chairwoman La Claice stated this playground wauld not be phased out until
the church is moved.
John Poole, Code Enforcement Superviso~, stated the majority of the
complaints wete ceceived when the playground was located at the corner of
Buena Vista and tiuclid and moving it back to that area would have an
impact on the neighborhood because it is a very small lot.
Commissioner H~rbst stated he wouldwhatetheirtplansuare forSthelnext three
cevised plan July 1986, indicating
years. Regarding the playgzaund and circulation, John Poole explained
ci[culation is rEStcicted now by the placement of cne of the trailerso
Commissionec La Claire clacified the removal of both trailers should be
accomplished by July 1986.
Mr. Sanders stated if they ate required to close the access on Edda Lane,
traffic has to use the two accesses on Euclid, and there would be a flow
of traffic through the parking lot which is currently being used coLOSed
playground which he felt would be a hazard and that is whY they p P
tu move the playground. He cesponded to Commissioner Fry that the
ciscular drive is part of this same packing area and the problem would be
wk~en parents want to pack their •~ehicles and go inside to drop off ot pick
up theit childten.
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Annika Santalahti, Assistant Director for Zoning, stated the current
situation may not show c~early on the plans, and that there is a circular
drive off ~uclid for entering and exiting in the same direction and the
playground, at leost several weeks ago, was fenced from the driveWay and
if parents drop off students there is no probl:m, but if the parents
parked to go inside, there would be a problem.
Commissioner Messe stated pre-school parents usually do not just drop
their children off.
Annika Santalahti stated if Y.he parents were yoing to the building at the
rear of the property which is at the Edda Lane entrance, there is a
problem, which might be another reascn for the removal of one of the
tzailers.
Commissionec Herbst stated a condition should be included that all traffic
circulation should be approved by thc Cil•y Traffic Engineer.
Mr. Sanders stated they have a definite problem re5arding circulation and
the piesence of the playground at tne current location and need the
flexibility to move the playground to maximize circulation on the
property, and if Edda Lane remains open as ]ong as the ore-school is
operating, chece will be no problem, but by not using that access with
cars accessin9 the site from Euclid, the cars would be causing a definite
impact with childzen playing on the playground.
Commissioner Fry stated the closing of Edda Lane and the ci~culation both
shall be approved by the City Traffic Engineer. Mr. Sanders requested
that this decision be postponed to the next meeting or as sooa as possible
so an appeal can Ge made quickly to facilitate tt~e closing of escrow.
Mr. O'Neil asked if it is Commission's intention that after 3 years the
only use on that site will be ~ope University and Chairwoman La Claire
responded that it is Commission's intent and will be part of the
resolution. Commissioner Herbst pointed out anyone still has the right to
request a change. Chairwoman La Claire stated it is Conmission's intent
that Hope University will be there with no moce than 100 studen~s.
Mr. O'Ueil asked if the Commission would make a~otion stating
speciEically that this conditional use permit is for Hope University
exclusively and noted they plan to develop this site as a model for their
universit~r.
Malcolm Slaughter stated as a normal practice, a conditional use permit
stays with the property unless it is tied co specific uwnership or time
limitations and would continue normally until revoked; however, the
Commission could require the cpplicant to record a covenant that the
pecmit would terminate upon their vacating the property. Mr. O'Neil
stated Mr. Lupo of Hope University has indicated they would be willing to
record such a covenant.
Chairwoman La Claire stated that would be included in the resolution.
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Chairwoman La Claire stated the Commission will vote on this resolution at
the beginning of the meeting of January 20, 1986, and the public hearing
has been closed and thete will be no public testimony at that time.
Commissioner Herbst noted copies of that resolution will be available
prioc to that meeting for review.
RECESSED: 3:25 p.m.
RECONVENED: 3:40 p.m.
ITEM NO. 4 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND VARIANCE NO. 3523
OWNERS: ORVILLE b. WO~DS, ET AL, 621 N. Pine Way, Anaheim, CA 92805.
AGEN:: RONALD J. CROWLEY, 1700 Raintcee Rd., Fullerton, CA 92635.
Property descrObBZ acren 1224gu1228yanda1236PEast1LafPalma Avenueting of
approximately
Waivers of (a) required type of Yacking spaces, ib) maximum structural
height, (c) minimum structuzal setback and (d) maximum wall height to
construc*_ a 20-unit apartment complex.
Continued from the meeting of November 25, 1985.
There was no one indicating thei~ presence in opposition to subject
cequest a~d although the staff report was not read, it is referred to and
made a patt of the minutes.
Ron Crowley, agent, explained they have cevised the plans after working
with the City Traffic Engi~eer, to rectify some of the problems and the
new p.lans provide 50 parking spaces on site (33 covered an~ 17 open with 2
compact car spaces) and also p~ovide an 8 to 49-foot wide landscaped
buffer adjacent to La Palma Avenue; however, they are still encroaching
into the setback with tho corners of 2 parking spaces and explained one of
those spaces is for the handicapped for easy access to the buildis9aces.
explained the handicapped unit will be adjacent to those parking P
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
ACTZON: Commissionet Fty offered a notion, seconded by Commissioner
McButney and MOTION CARRIED (COmmissioner Lawir,ki absent) that the Anaheim
City Planning Commission has reviewed the proposal to construct a 20-unit
apa~tment complex in the RM-1200 (Residential, Multiple-Family) Zone with
waiver of cequiced type of parking spaces, maximum structural height,
minimum structural setback and maximum wall height on an
ir~e9ularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 0.82 acres,
having a ftontage of app~oximately 226 feet on the south side of La Palma
Avenue and further described as 1224, 1228 and 1236 East La Palma Avenue;
and does hereby approve the Negative Declaiation upon findin9 that it has
considered the Negative Declaration togethec with any comments received
during the public review process and further finding on the basis of the
Initial Study and any comments received that thece is no substantial
evidence that the project will have a significant effect on the
envitonment.
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Commissioner Fry offered Resolution No. PC86-1 and moved for its passage
and adoption that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby grant
Variance No. 3523, waivers (b), (c) and (d) on the basi_~ that there are
special circumstances applicable to the propecty such as size, shape,
topogtaphy, location and surroundings which do not apply to other
identically zone;: property in the same viciniiy~:eL~a ofaprivileges enjoyed
application of the Zoning Code deprives the p P Y
by other properties in the identical zone and class:fication in the
vicinitst and granting waiver (a) on the basis that the parking waiver
will not cause an increase in traffic congestion in the immediate vicinity
nor adversely affect any adjoining land uses and gtanting of the parking
waivec undec the conditions imposed, if any, will not be detrimental to
the peace, health, safety and general welfare of the citizens of the City
of Anaheim and subject to Interdepartmental Comnittee recommendations.
On roll call, the faregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: BOUAS, FRY, HERBST, LA CLAIRE, MC BURPIEY, MESSE
NOES: [~ONE
ABSENT: LAWICKI
Malcolm Slaughter, Deputy City Attotney, pcesented the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's decision within 22 days to the City
Council.
ITEM NO. 5 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION RECLASSIFICATION NO. 65-86-14 AND
VARIANCE NO. 3518
OwNERS: DOROTHY LEE MACDONALD, 925 S. Webstec Ave., Anaheim, CA 92804 and
THOMAS CHRRI.ES CONWAY, 917 S. Webster Ave., Anaheim, CA 92804. AGENT:
BLASH MOMENY, 25283 Cabot Road, Suite 205, Laguna Hills, CA 92653.
Property described as a rectangularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of
approximately 0.87 acre, 917 and 925 South Webster Avenue.
kS-A-43,000 to RM-1200 or a less intense zone.
Waivers of maximum fence height and maximum structural height to construct
a 25-unit apartment building.
Continued from the meetings of November 25, and Decembec 9, 1985.
ACTION: Commissionet Herbst offered a motion, seconded by Commissionet
M~sse and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Lawicki absent) that consideration
of the aforementioned matter be continued to the regularly-scheduled
meeting of January 20, 1986, at staff's request.
ITk~M N0. 6 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT N0. 206
R~CLASSIFICATION NO 85 86 16 AND VARIANCE N0. 3524 AND REQUEST CITY
COUNCIL REVIEW OF 6a, 6b, 6c, and 6d
PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: AHMED JAHANPANAH, ET AL, 520 N. Rexford Drive,
Beverly Hils, CA 90210. AG~NT: MAGDY HANNA, 4000 MacACthur Boulevacd,
~680, Newport Beach, CA 92660. Ptopecty described as a
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rectangularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 1.35
acres, 1585 West Katella Avenue.
RS-10,000 to RM-1200.
Waivers of maximum structural height and minimum recreational-leisure
aceas to consLCUCt a 48-unit apa~tment complex.
There were five persons indicating their presence in opposition to subject
request and although the staff report was not cead, it is referred to and
made a part oi the minutes.
Magdy Hanna, agent, explained the reason for the request is to change the
general plan desi~nation from commercial, professional to medium density
re5identi3l because ~.nere is no need for office, pcofessional units in
this area. He stated they zealize there are single-family homes in the
reac and thi~ project is designed to pcesecve the privacy and enjoyment of
their homes. He added there ace no openings in this project ca the north
overlooking those homes. He explained there is a nursery school on the
west which is actually designated for single-family residential uses and
thece is a possibility that that property will also be rezoned from~.
multipie-f.stnily uses in the futuce. He stated he talked to the propecty
owners on Katella and some of them did express interest in seeing this
prop ty developed because right now it is an eyesore. He stated the
nearesk point to single-family homes is 62 feet and the City Council has
approved projects at 49 feet.
Joe Bryan, 1582 W. Sumac, explained his property is just north of subject
property and that he has lived there for 17 yedrs and would like to see
the propecty developed because it is a problere cight now. He stated every
development proposed would have had an adverse affect on the properky
owners to the rea:; and that he realizes this area has been designated for
commercial uses and there are some older businesses which aze no lo~ger
operating and stated he thought a business complex would be a boost to the
area. He stated he tealizes it is not too far from the commercial acea of
Disneyland with th~ hotels, etc. and from his backyard he could hear the
traffic from that area and he sees a potential tcaffic problem with 48
additional u~its in this project and also having that many people living
cight in the middle of a block could be a problem. He stated the
petitionec had indicated they ieel this project would compliment the area,
but he did not think it would because there are no other apartment
complexes in that area and it w~uld set a precedent.
Mt. Bryan referced to the setback between his property and the project and
indicated the staff report indicates the setback would vary 48 feet to 62
Eeet and was concerned that the 48 feet would be adjacent to his
ptoperty. He stated it is inte~ded to make Katella a 6-lane artecial
stceet and constcuczing this pcoject with the additional traffic pcoblems
would just add to the congestion. He added he was also concecned about
the propecty values with a 2-story building behind his property. He
stated two othec neighbors asked him to speak on their behalf because they
could not get off work to attend this meeting and that those are owners of
the ptopecties immediate?y behind the pcoposed project.
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Dorothy Purdue, 1782 S. Cacnelian Stceet, Anaheim, stated her pcoperty
backs up to the pre-school and she was concerned about apartments bev~cse
of the congestion on the street and also taki.ng away some andhthe Y•
She stated thece are trees there now between her propercy
pre-school which would be removed. She ptesoseddto thiseprojecther next
door neighboc, Barbara Peck, who is also opp
Rick Landrum, 1596 W. Sumac Lane, stated his property bocders the northern
edge of the nursery school and he is concern~d that the propecty where the
nursery school is located will be rezoned for similar apattr,ients and
although this developet has taken great effort to design the units not to
overlook his p*operty, he was concerned that future developers of other
properties miqht not be as considerate. He added he could close his
drapes in his residence, but was concerned about the security of his back
yard because thece have been a loe activobYemight~inccease withlthishrough
his propetty and he felt that typ
apactment project as propo~ed.
Clarence Hutchinson, 1813 Bayless, explained his properteL~s developeduth
side of this project and they would like tu see the pcoP Y
He added that is a highly traveled street and there a~e a lot of accidents
at the intersection of Ninth and Katella and adding 48 apactments would
inc~ease that hazard. He added parkin9ackinvlistnot allowed on Katellauld
also create a parking problem because p 9
and they would tre patking on Ba}less. He added they do not object to
peop2e using the public stteet for parking, but the visitors to their
homes will not have a place to park. F:e stated with childcen in the
project, it could be a real hazard beWOUld 4eedetrimentalytoothe areahe
street and feel a complex this large
Sill Droess.lec stated he has an office right across the street and is
cectainly for growth i.n Anahei~a, but this acea is developed with
businesses and he felt it should remain that way. He stated he felt this
pcoperty should be developed with offices.
Mr. Hanna stated the owner has tcied to sell this propecty e°use incthis
but could not sell it because there is no need for that typ
area. He stated he thought this is a good viable alternative and that he
is also concerned about traffic on Katella, but did narkinel heestatedt
fcom this project would be significant. Concerning p 9~
this ptoject will be providing 2.5 spaces per unit and it would be
subtercanean parking with security provided and no one would park on the
side streets and walk to the units. He stated he feels with the
development of this project a lot of the other problems in the area, which
are going on behind the nursery school, will be eliminated.
THE PUSLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Fty stated some good questions have been raised by the
opposition and ceferred to the petitioner's Statement os Jeallyleconomicst
approval of variances in which he states the hardship
and pointed out the Commission cannot consider economics in their
decisiort. He stated he cannot find justification for approval of this
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project and felt putting 48 units there would be an impact on the area
because of additional traffic.
Commissioner rlcBUrney stated he feels changing the General Plan would be
in conflict with what is existing and he could not~spot zone something in
this area.
Chairwoman La Claite stated she understands that commercial office uses
ace not really in demand at this time, but apartments are, and she has
been on the Commission for a numbec of years and has seen things change a
lot and a few years ago, apartments were not being buil.t because there was
no demand and off9.ces were in demand and things are constantly changing
and sometimes apactments can be good buffers to residential areas, but did
nol• think this is the right place for rezoning.
Commissioner Herbst stated the nursery school is zoned RS-10,000, even
though it is developed with a nursery school, and subject property is
RS-10,00t:, and he would like to see a review of the area because he
thouyht a cul-de-sac could be constructed and pechaps both prooerties
developed as RS-5,000 with single-family homes constructed. He stated
combining these two properL•ies would make a good size paccel of property
and would be more compatible with the neignborhood than the project as
proposed.
Commissionec Fry stated he would rather see a commercial development than
single-family homes with traffic coming out onto Katella.
Chairwoman La Claire stated the Stadium Acea is being developed and
Katella will be one of the nicest stceets and, hopefully, it will be
mostly professional and commercial and that maybe the rezoning of this
property for commercial, professional would be the best move the City
could make at this time and then it would be the same as the commetcial,
professional uses in the area. She added she is concerned about putting
houses thece because of the busy st.reet and the traffic will be increased
on Katella without this development. She added she thought the best
General Plan designation for this area would be commercial, pcofessionai
instead of `spot zoning for apartments. Commissioners Fry and Messe agceed.
Commissioner Fry offeted a motion, seconded by Commissioner McBUrney and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissionec Lawicki absent) that the Anaheim City
Planning Commission has reviewed the pcoposal to change the General Plan
designation from commercial, professioral to medium density residential on
a rectangulacly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 1.3
acres and approximately 190 feet of frontage on the north side of Katella
and approximately 315 feet east of the centecline of Carnelian Street and
ceclassifying subject property from RS-10,000 (Residential, Single-Family)
zone to the RM-2200 (Residential, Multiple-Family) Zone to construct a
48-unit apartment complex with waiver of maximum structural height and
further described as 1585 West Katella; and does hereby approve the
Negative Declaration upon finding that it has considered the Negative
Declaration together with any comments received during the public review
process and further finding on the basis of the Initial Study and any
comments received that there is no substantial evidence that the pcoject
will have a siynificant effect on the environment. 1~6/86
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Prioc to voting on the General Plan Amendment, Greg Hastings explained if
the Commission does not wish to approve Exhibits A o[ B, the General Plan
Amendment should be denied.
Commissioner Fry offeted Resolution No. PC86-2 and moved fot its passage
and adoption that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does heteby deny
General Plan Amendment No. 206 on the basis that medium dencommercial
tesidential uses would not be compatible with the existing
professional uses in the area and the Genecal Plan designation should
remain commercial, professional.
On coll call, the toregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: BOUAS~ FRY, HERBST, LA CLAIRE, MC BURNEY~ MESSE
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: LAWICKI
Commissioner Fxy offered Resolution No. PC86-3 and moved fo~ its passage
and adoption that the Maheim City Planning Commission does deny
Reclassification No. 85-86-16.
On roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: BOUAS, FRY, HERBST, LA CLAIRE, MC BURNEY, MESSE
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: LAWICKI
Commissioner Fry offered &esolution No. PC86-4 and moved for its passage
and adoption that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby deny
Variance No. 3524 on the basis that there are no special ci~locationeand
applicable to the property such as size, shape, topography,
sutroundinys which do not apply to other identically zoned prope~ty in the
same vicinity; and that stzict application of the Zoning Code does not
deprive the property of privileges enjoyed by other properties in the
identical zone and classification in the vicinity; and further on the
basis that the reclassification to multiple-family zoning was denied.
On roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: BOUAS, FRY, HERBST, LA CLAIRE, MC BURNEY, MESSE
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: LAWICKI
Malcolm Slaughter, Deputy City Attorney, p~esented the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's decision within 22 days to the City
council.
ITEM NO. 7 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2741
PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: ANAHEIM HILLS DEVELOPMENT CORP., c/o GUNSZON
HALL CO., 6507 E. Secrano Avenue, Anaheim, CA 92807, ATTN: GEORGE MASON.
AGENT: ANDREW WILLIAM EDWARDS, PH.D., 6352 E. Nohl Ranch Road, Anaheim,
CA 92807. Pcoperty described as an itregulaily-shaped paccel of land
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To permit expansion of an equesttian center.
Thete wece fouc persons indicating their presence in opposition to subject
request and although the staff repoct was not read, it is referred to and
made a part of the minutes.
Andrew Edwards, agent, explained subject property has been conveyed to him
and Anaheim Hills Development Corporation no longer owns the property. He
explained there were several people present earlier to support this
cequest, but had to leave due to the time. He stated thece is a dedicated
trail Eor horse back riding in the Anaheim Hills Master Plan for
Development and the trail connects with the South ozange County Trail
System. He stated the riding center has very few new openings for
bearding cpaces and there is a waiting list which is getting bigger and
they cannot satisfy the need for boarding spaces for people living in the
Anaheim Hills area and some peo^le have to wait as long as 3 or 4 months
for a space. He added this is the only equest[ian center in Anaheim Hills
and the property is deed restricted for equestrian uses. He stated the
new facility will match the existing facilities in quality and appearance.
William T. D. Taylor, 201U Royal Oak Road, stated the expansion of this
facility is needed and explained he has been on the waiting list for a
long time to get into the facilit}~ and there ace other members of his
family who would like to get into the facility and also, there are other
people in Anaheim Hills who would like to get into this facility.
Ann Acquidino stated she presently has a horse at this center and they are
expecting a new acrival and need a place for it. She sdded they are in
the p:ocess of purchasing a home at Kings Meadow which is right above the
stable and are in favor of this expansion.
Jo Arnett, 1275 N. Chrisden, explained she has her horse in Carbon Canyon
in Brea which is about 8 miles from this facility and would like to be
able to transfer to this area and has been waiting sevecal months for
space. She stated this is a beautifully maintained facility and there is
a need for more spaces.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Fry asked what the expansion consists of because he felt the
word"expansion'is very broad. Kendra Morries stated the south 10 acres of
this entire site is currently undeveloped and the existing center is on
the northern part of the propecty and the plans indicate a veterinarian
hospital and clinic, additional holding stalls for the clinic and some
foaling stalls, etc.
Chairwoman La Claire stated she was on the task force committee when the
Anaheim Hills plan was fizst developed and fought very hard to get this
equestcian centet and is in ravor of the expansion. She asked about the
new riding ring and whether or not :t would be regulation size so that
horse shows could be held there.
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Mr. Edwards responded that they will need a new riding ring for the new
spaces and explained they have had the first year of their own shows and
they were very successful and a lot of outsidets have started coming in
fur the shows. He explained regarding the hospital that there was some
interest from two veterinarians in Yorba Linda in moving their 50 foot by
70 foot pre-fabricated building to this site which houses their surgery
and pharmacy.
Commissioner Messe clatified that this veterinarian hospital would just be
for horses. Commissioner McBurney asked if the riding ring would be
retained in front on Anaheim xills Road and it was responded that it is to
remain and is quite good for their business.
Responding to Chairwoman La Claire regarding screening of the metal
buildings from the above and sucro~nding homes, Dr. Edwards state:9 ~here
is a large clump of Oak trees which will screen the building and %..9ed he
did not think anyone would be able to see it.
ACTION: Commissiorec Herbst offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner
McBurney and MOTION C~RIED (COmmissionec Lawicki absent) that t;e Anaheim
City Planning Commission has reviewed the proposal to permit expansion of
an equestrian centec located on an i~regularly-shaped parcel of land
consisting of approximately 14.7 ac~es, having a fcontage of approximately
469 feet on the southwest side of Nohl Ranch Road and further desccibed as
6352 E. Nohl Ranch Road; and does hereby approve the Negative Declaration
upon finding tt,at it has considered the Negative Declaration together with
any comments received duriny- the public review process and further finding
on the basis of the Initial Study and any comments received that there is
no su6stantial evidence that the project will have a significant effect on
the environment.
Commissioner Herbst offered Resolution No. PC86-5 and moved for its
passage and adoption that the Anaheim City Flanning Commission does he~eby
grant Conditional Use Permit No. 2741 pursuant to Anaheim Municipal Co3e
Sections 18.03.030.030 through 18.03.030.035 and subject to
interdepartmental Committee recommendations.
On roll call, the foregoing tesolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: BOUAS, FRY, HERBST, LA CLAIRE, MC BURNEY~ MESSE
NOES: NONE
ABSBNT: LAWICKI
Malcolm Slaughter, Deputy City Attorney, presented the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's decision within 22 days to the City
council.
ITEM NO. 8 EIR CATEGORICAL EXEMPTZON-CLASS 3 AND CONDZTIONAI, USE PERMIT
NO. 2744
PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: TEMPLE BETH EMET, 1770 W. Cerritos Avenue,
Anaheim, CA 92805, SHIRLEY GLOWALLA. AGENT: JIM LEVY, 1596 W. Ccone
Avenue, Anaheim, CA 92802. Property described as a rectangularly-shaped
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parcel of land consisting of approximately 4.8 acres, 1770 west Cerritos
Avenue (Temple Beth Emet).
To retain a residential trailer.
There was no one indicating their presence in opposition to subject
cequest and although the staff ceport was not read, it is cef2rred to and
made a part of the minutes.
Shirley Glowalla, administcator, stated they have had this residential
trailer on the premises for the past 3-1/2 yeacs and have had no security
problems and the neighbors are pleased with it.
THE PUBLZC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
It was noted the Planning Directoc oc his authorized representative has
detecmined that the proposed project falls within the definition of
Ca~tegorical Exemptions, Class 3, as defined catehoticall Eexemptmfromlthe
Impact Report Guideli~es and is, thexefore, 9 Y
requirement to prepare an EIR.
ACTION: Commissioner Fry offeced Resolution No. PC$6-6 and moved for its
?assa9e and adoptio^ that the Anaheim City Plannin9 Commission does hereby
gcant Conditional Use Permit No. 2744 pursuant to Anaheim Municipal Code
5ections 18.03.030.030 thcough 18.U3.030.035 for a peciod of three years
and subject to Interdepa~tmental Committee recommendations.
On co?.1 call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: BOUAS, FR't, HERBST, LA CLAIRE, MC BURNEY, MESSE
NOF..S: NOhE
AHSEI~T: ~.AWICKI
Malcolm Slaugt,tec, Deputy City Attorney, p[esented the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's decision within 22 days to the Ci*_y
Council.
ITEM NO. 9 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2745
PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: PABLO V. AND LAURA KNOWLTON DOMINQUEZ, 13572
Laurina Way, 5anta Ana, CA 92705, AiTN: RONALD DOMZNQUEZ, CO-EXECUTOR.
AGENT: SHELL OIL CUMPANY, 511 N. Bcookhu~st Street, Anaheim, CA 92802,
ATTN: RICHARD MEYERS. P[operty described as a cectangularly-shaped
parcel of land consisting of approximately 0.52 acre, located at the
suutheast corner of Ball Road and State College Boulevard, 1200 S. State
College Boulevard (Shell Service Station).
To permit a self-service car wash in conjunction with an existing service
station.
Thece were two persons indicating their presence in opposition to subject
request and although the staff teport was not ~ead, it is referred to and
made a part of the minutes.
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Gary Demele, architect with Clyde Carpenter 5 Associates, 2750 S. Harbor,
Santa Ana, referced to Condition No. 2 requiring the removal of the
westecly most dciveway on Ball Road or a median island to be constructed
on Ball Road anu explained they would elect to construct the median island.
Elizabeth Meyec, Pacific Coast Management Company, explained they manage
an approximate 6,000-square foot office building on this same corner and
are opposed to this request on the basis they feel a car wash would not be
in the best interest of their tenants. She stated they feel people who
use the car wash could pull into their parking lot and noted during the
lunch hour there is a lot of congestion on that lot with the E1 Torrito
a~id Benihana Restaurants and the customers would continue washing their
cacs and waxing them and during the evening hours, since the car wash
would be ogen 24 hours a day, they could come into their office building
which is open until 11:00 p.m. for a computer school to us°: their
facilities. She added they could also cause a security hazard to the
tenants since there is a lot of very expensive equipment in that building
which could be vandalized.
Rick Crushion, 10592 Katella, P.naheim, explained he is a partner
representing Sand Dollar Plaza and they are opposed to this request. He
stated the tenants would all like to see this denied because of khe
possibility of vandalism, etc.
Mr. Demele stated in this opecation a customer would purchase gasoline and
be 9iven a code number to get into the car wash and then drive through the
car wash without getting out of the vehicle and then drive off because
ttiece is no attendant on duty and thete are no dryers or blowers.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Mr. Demele pointed out the driveways to the car wash and service station
on the exhibit displayed and [esponded to Commissioner Bouas that there
are 4 parking spaces with vacuuming facilities in conjunction with the car
wash.
Commissioner Fry stated he thought the traffic situation would be
intolerable because of the liquor store driveway and pointed out
otiginally there was no driveway, but subsequently, an access has been
constructed to that liquoc store parkin9 lot which is almost an impossible
situation. He stated he thought adding one more use at that corner would
be a traffic hazard because people would come out of the car wash and not
want to turn right and will pull across several lanes of traffic. He
added the site is just too small to accommodate this use.
Commissioner Messe stated these ace two very busy streets and it will be
extremely hazardous.
Mr. Demele stated the driveway was reviewed by Paul Singer, City Traffic
Engineer, and that was one of his recommendations. He stated the planter
space has been added to buffer the next door neighbors.
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Commissioner McBurney stated the Commission cannot dictate the driving
habits of the public and he did not think this would be a severe impact
because the number of cars will not be significantly increased.
Commissioner ~erbst asked if this is similar to the facility on Lincoln
and State College. ~Ir. Demele stated they are looking at this as an
improvement to service their existing gasoline purchasers and not to add
additional customers for just the cac wash. Commissioner Fry stated
anyone can use the facility at Lincoln and State College.
Mr. Demele stated this facility is 16 feet by 36 feet and will wash one
vehicle at a time. Chairwoman La Claire stated she has used this type of
car wash and Qeople do wash their car and then dcive away and she did not
think it would be a problem with appcoval of this :equest.
Mansour Roshan, owner of the Sand Dollar Financial Plaza, explained they
have a computer training center in their complex with more than 300
students and explained he has been in this location for 25 years; that
area at Ball and State College is vecy congested; and that the service
station is open 24 hours a day and they do have vandalism and traffic
problems. He stated this site is not 150 feet by 150 feet and it is
really meant L•o be a service station only and none of his tenants approve
of this. He stated there will be two driveways next to each other.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
F1r. Roshan clacified his property is 5 acres adjacent to the shoppir~g
center at 124U State College exactly south of Benihana's.
Chairwoman La Claire stated she did not understand the opposition's
complaints; that she thought one of the reasons for the traffic problems
was because of the computer center and not the restaurants. She stated
she cannot understand why they are complaining about this request. Mr.
Roshan stated in the evenings there is alsn congestion and the problem is
there are too many peoole coming in and o~t of that southeast corner of
Ball and State Colle9e and they have a continual problem with vandalism
and people getting into theic building and bathrooms at night and they do
not want any more uses on that corner. He stated a self-secvice car wash
historically does bring in an undesirable type of people.
Commissionec Herbst stated if a person buys gasoline and wants a car wash,
he would drive through and go ~n out, and he did not see a problem with
parking and traffic on the property. He stated the customer will not stay
on the ptoperty. Mr. Roshan stated there will be two driveways next to
each other and if this is allowed, the liquor store driveway should be
closed.
Paul Singer stated there is a problem with that drivew:ay to the liquoc
store, but he did not think th~.s will be a serious problem because thece
is a median and both driveways are going right in and right out and felt
by creating a median on Ball Road the capacity at this intersection will
be incceased with the elimination of left turns from any portion of that
setvice station site. He stated the tcaffic volume caused by the car wash
is negligible. 1/6/86
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Commissioner Fry stated he knows there is an island thece, but he would
disagree with Paul Singer because he comes by that szte every day and sees
people coming out the driveway from the liguor stoce, going across traffic
so they do not have to make a right turn on Ball Road. He stated he
thought the same problem will be created by this driveway.
Commissioner Messe stated he did not understand the concern about
vandalism because anyone leav:no the car wash would have to make a right
turn on State College, a right turn onto Ball Road and go past the
cestaurant and right turn again into the parking lot and drive up to the
building to go in and he did not think that would increase vandalism. Mr.
Roshan pointed out every morning there are lots of beer bottles, etc. on
their parking lot.
Chairwoman La Claire stated she thouyht this is a use that should be in a
gas station. She stated the Commission is aware of the traffic problems
in that area, but did not think this would add to those problems. Mc.
Roshan stated there are no walls to the s2rvice station and the driveway
will be close to the li?~;~~= store driveway and he felt one must be closed.
Chaizwoman La Claire stated the plans show a wall. Mr. Demele stated
there is a wall and a portion is just an open planter, and pointed out the
stocage ~oom and fire wall would afford pcotection to the neighbors. Mr.
Roshan stated thece are no walls on the east and south side of the service
station and it was pointed out walls would be constructed.
ACTION: Commissioner McBurney offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner
Herbst and t40TION CARRZED (Commissioner Lawicki absent) that the Anaheim
City Planning Corn,nission h.is reviewed the p~oposal to permit a
self-service cac wash in conjunction with an existing service station on a
rectangularly-shaped pa:cel of and consisting of approximately 0.52 acres
located at the southea~st corner of Ball Road and State College Boulevard
and further describe~] as 1200 South State College Boulevard; and does
hereby appcove the Negative Declaration upon finding that it has
consideced the Negative Declaration together with any comments received
during the public review process and furthec finding on the basis of the
Initial Study and any comments received that there is no substantial
evidence that the project will have a significant effect on the
enviconment.
Commissioner~Pry~o,ffered Resulution No. PC86-7 and moved for its passage
and adoption that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby grant
Conditional Use Permit No. 2745 pursuant to Anaheim Municipal Code
Sections 18.03.030.030 through 18.03.030.035 and subject to
Inl•erdepactmenkal Committee recommendations.
On roll call, the fo[egoing resolution was passed by the follor+ing vote:
AYES: BOUASr HERBST, LAWICKI~ MC BURNEY, MESSE
NOES: FRY
ABSENT: LAWICKI
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Malcolm Slaughter, Deputy City Attorney, presented the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's decision within 22 days to the City
Council.
RECESS~D: 4:53 p.m.
R~CONVENED: 5:00 p.m.
ITEM NO. 10 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION, WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT AND
COi~DITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 2747
PUBLIC HEARING. Ob~NERS: McDONALn'S CORP., 8840 C<~mplex Dr., San Diego,
CA 92123, A?TN: SKIP STERLING. AGENT: DONALD DUNKLEMAN, 940 E. Chapman
4venue, Orange, CA 92660. Property is described as a rectangularly-shaped
paccel of land consisting of approximately 0.51 acre, 3210 W. Lincoln
Avenue (MCDOnald's Restaurant).
To expand an existing drive-thcough cestaurant with waiver minimum number
of pa[king spaces.
There wece two persons indicating their presence in opposition to subject
request and although the staff zeport was not read, it is referred to and
made a past ot the minutes.
Don Dunkleman, agent, explained a parking waiver was approved when they
a~ded the drive-through thcee years ago; and that this expansion will not
inccease the traffic and is simply for their own convenience, except for
impcovements to the men and women's cestrooms.
Ken Bewley, 6217 Hill Avenue, Whittier, stated he owns the property where
the car wash and restaurant ace located directly south of subject property
and that he pu~chased the property and built the coin-operated car wash in
1974 and ducing construction of the car wasn noticed employees of
McDOnald's were parking on his propecty and he offered to rent spaces to
Mr. Dunkleman, but he was not interested. He stated the map shows
MeDOnald's has ingress and egress ovzc his pcoperty, but that is not
dicectly adjacent to subject property, but there is a 20-foot stcip that
is his propecty where the vacuums are located 3nd whece custoTers park to
dry their cars. He stated over the years he has had a constant battle
with Mr. ~unkleman in trying to keep his customers and employees from
parking on his propezty. He stated numerous times he has requested they
help maimtain the driveway, which they use, and Mt. Dunk.leman has
cefused. He stated when the people at McDonald's clean out the dumpster
where they alsc stoce cooking fat, occasionally they wzsh the cooking fat
across hi~ property onto the apartment complex property to the west and he
t.as had to have the Health Department out to investigate and they have
indicat~d they cannot do anything until they catch someone actually doing
it. He statea his operators of the car wasl~ are still having numerous
prc•blems with parking and he felt decreasing the parking cequirement will
cause mo~re problems. He submitted copies of two letters, one he wrote to
McDonaldl's Gorporation and one he received in answer which sayc they have
legal draiaage cights, but cooking iats do create a hazard.
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Mr. Dunkleman stated he and Mr. Bewley have not seen eye-to-eye for many
years and have had mazy problems; that Mr. Bewley has done things in
violation on his property and his employecs and customers park on
McDOnald's property and use the toilet facilities because they have none
at the car wash and they are constantl~ asking for change because the
change machine at the car wash is not working. He stated they do have an
easement and he frankly cannot understand the problem. He stated they
will not be losing any more parking and if his people are parking on the
neighbor's property, it is not with his blessings and if they are towed
away, it is at their own expense.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Responding to Chairwoman La Claire, Mr. Dunkleman stated the cooking oil
is hauled away once a week and occasionally when the barrels are filled,
before it is hauled away, some of it does spill and they mop it up rather
than hosing it. He explained they have to discard the fat once or twice a
week and it is hauled away and when the barrels are filled and perhaps
when it is being hauled away some of it is spilled. He explained there is
an opening in the barrel where they pour the oil. Concecning the
dumpsters, he explained they usually call the City and tell them when the
dumpsters are getting dirty and if *_hey do not bring one out right away,
occasionally they do have to clean them and the water will flow to the
adjacent property, but he did not think it is a problem.
Commissioner Fry stated there is a 31-foot easement going wESt into che
McDOnald's property and added he did not see any need for it. Mr.
Dunkleman stated the easement is the entry to the property and noted there
is a median strip on Lincoln and people traveling west on Lincoln can make
a left turn at Western and enter through the rear, otherwise, would have
to go past the site and come back one block.
Chairwoman La Claire stated the Commission will not get into the property
owner's problems with the easement situation, but would like the
petitioner. to stipulate to making an effort to keep the oil from spilling
and she hoped they would be able to work out the difficulties. She stated
this expansion will not increase the packing and is a very minor change.
AcTION: Commissioner Fry offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Bouas
and MOTIOt: CARRIED (COmmissioner Lawicki absent) that the Anaheim City
Planning Commission has reviewed the proposal to expand the existing
drive-through restaurant with waiver of minimum numbec of parking spaces
on a rectangul3rly-shaped parcel of land consisting of appr.oximately 0.51
acre, having a frontage of approximately 165 feet on the south side of
Lincoln Avenue and further described as 3210 West Lincoln Avenue
(McDonald's); and does hereby approve the Negative Declaration upon
finding that it has considered the Negative Declaration together with any
comments received during the public review process and further finding on
t:~e basis of the Initial Study and any comments received that there is no
substantial evidence that the project will have a significant effect on
the enviconment,
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MINUTES, ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMNISSION JANUARY 6 1986
Commissioner Fty offeced a motion, seconded by Commissioner Bouas and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Lawicki absent) that the Anaheim City
Planning Commission does hereby grant waiver of Code [equirement on the
basis tnat the parking waivec will not cause an increase in tcaffic
congest:on in the immediate vicinity nor adveraely affect any adjoining
land uses and granting of the patking waeace,uhealthhesafetytandsgenerald~
if any, will not be detrimental to the p
welfare of the citizens of the City of Anaheim.
Commissionec Fry offered Resolution No. PC86-8 and moved for its passage
and adoption that the Anaheim City Planning Commission doesaieCode 9rant
Conditional Use Pecmit No. 2747 pucsuant to Anaheim Ftunicip
Sections 18.03.030.030 through 18.03.030.035 and subject to
Interdepartmental Committee tecommendations.
On roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: BOUAS, FRY, HERBST, LA CLAIRE, MC BURNEY, ME5SE
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: LAWICKI
plalcolm Slaughtec, Deputy City Attorney, presented the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's decision within 22 day~ to the City
Council.
IlEM N0. 11 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2748
PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: STEINY & CO~iPANY, INC., 2230 E. Orangethorpe,
Fullerton, CA 92631. AGENT: BAY DEVELOPMENT CORP., 19600 Fairchild,
Suite 200, Icvine, CA 92715. Property is described as a 4,6 acces
rectangularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately
located north of the northeast corner of La Palma Avenue and Lakeview
Avenue.
To pecmit constr~ction of an industrially-celated office complex in the
ML(SC) (Industrial, Limited, Scenic Corridor Overlay) Zone.
There was no one indica*.ing their presence in opposition to subject
request and although the staff report was not read, it is cei-esred to and
made a part of the minutes.
IIrian Poliquin, Sttock Architect~ uestionsine Avenue, Suite 312, Newport
Seach, was present to answec any 9
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Responding to Chairwoman La Claire, Paul Singer, T[affic Engineer, stated
the ratio of pa~king requi~ements for an of:ice is coasiderably highet
than for purely industrial building.
Chairwoman La Clair~ stated she is really concerned about this area
because the traffic on Lakeview and La Palma is really heaey many times
during the day and evenings and traffic backs up all the way to
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Orangethorpe. She stated she would vote against this project and felt
this property should be developed for industrial uses.
Commissioner Herbst agreed and stat~3 the attitude of the property owners
in the whole canyon area seems to be for commercial uses and this project
is for G2,489 square feet of office uses and only 1i,600 square feet of
industrial uses and this is prime industrial property. He stated some
industrial uses have been allowed, but this far exceeds what is needed to
service the industrial community.
Commissioner Messe stated t~e City has just lost some of its prime
industrial land around the stadiu~ and he thought it should stop.
Paul Singec stated this entire area is in Pcoject Alpha and the
Redevelopment Agency is in the pcocess of hiring a consulti~g firm to do a
total impact study, and they have hired a land use planning firm to
determine the long-range uses to be proposed in that area which extends
from about Red Gum or Blue Gum to Imperial Highway. He stated he is
concerned about the a~ea because the office uses cause traffic impacts at
very key locations with only 4 ramps serving the whole area,( Kraemer,
Tustin, Lakeview and Imperial Highway) and to further compound that,
larger developers constantly resist any TSM measures. He stated recently
Rockwell, with a large employment force, issued a new directive that all
employees as of Janua~y lst will work from B:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. with no
deviation permitted. He added the office uses allowed into this area mean
that 8 to 5 peak traffic will be impacted in the area and a study has to
be cond~cted and the Redevelopment Agency recogniaes that and is engaging
a traffic engineering firm to do such a study.
Kendra t4orries stated staff cecommends that Condition No. 14 be deleted.
ACTION: Commissioner Herbst offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner
Fry and MOTZON CARRIED (COmmissioner Lawicki absent) that the Anaheim City
Planning Commission has reviewed the proposal to permit construckion of an
industrially related office complex in the ML(SC) (Industria~, Limited,
Scenic Corridor Overlay) Zone on a rectan9ularly-shaped paccel of land
consisting of approximately 4.6 acres, located north of the northeast
corner oi La Palma Avenue Lakeview Avenue; and does hereby approve the
Negative Declaration upon finding that it has considered the Negative
Declatation together with any coinments received during the puhlic review
process and further finding on the basis of the initial Study and any
comments received that there is no substantial evidenca that khe project
will have a significant effect on the environment.
Commissioner Herbst offeced Reaolution No. PCS6-9 and moved for its
passaye and adoption that the Anaheirn Citl Planning Commission does hereby
deny Conditional Use Permit No. 2748 on the basis that the use is not
industrially oriented and compatible with the su:rounding industcial area
and office uses create significantly more traffic.
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On ~oll call, the foregoing resolution was aassed by the following vote:
AYES: BOUAS, FRY~ HERBST, LA CLAIRE, MC BUkNEY, MESSE
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: LAWICKI
Malcolm Slaughter, DepuLy City Attorney, presented the writken right to
appeal the Plannin9 Commission's decision within 22 days to the City
Council.
ITEM N~• 12 EIR NEGATZVE DECLARATZON, WAIVER OF CODE R_EQUIREMENT AND
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2749
P~]sLIC HEARING. OWNERS: THE PRESBYTERY OF LOS ANGELES, c/o SYNOD OF
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA & HAWAII, 1501 Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA
9U017~ ATTN: A. W. GARRISON. AGENT: DARWIN MANUEL SERVICE CORP., 238 S.
Orange Avenue, Suite 207, Brea, CA 92621. Property is described as a
rectangularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 3.49 acres
located at the southeast cornec of Orange Avenue and Magnolia Avenue, 2580
W. Orange Avenue (St. Pzul's Presbyterian Church).
To permit a 51-unit senior citizen's apattment complex with waivers of
minim~~m building site area and maximum stcuctural hei9ht.
ACTION: Commissionet Bouas offeced a motion, seconded by Commissioner
McBucney and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Lawicki absent) that
consideration of the aforementioned matter be con~in~ed to the
~egulacly-scheduled meeting of January 20, 1986, at the petitioner's
eequest in ordec to submit cevised plans.
ITEM N0. 13 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT t•]O. 2751
PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: JONATHAN ~. Y. YEH, ET AL, 1308 Elm Street,
Alhambra, CA 918U3. Property is desc~ibed as a rectangularly-shaped
paccel of land consisting of approximately 0.76 acre, 420 South Beach
Boulevard (Arenal Ho~el).
To construct an 18-unit addition to a 27-unit motel.
There was na one indicating their presence in o~position to ~ubject
request and althou~h the staff report was not read, it is referred to and
made a part of the minutes.
Jonathan Yeh, 420 S. Beach Boulevard, Anaheim, was present to answer any
questions.
THE PUBLZC HEA~ING WAS CLOSED.
ACTION: Commissionec McBUrney offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner
Fry and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Lawicki absent) that the Anaheim City
Planning Commission has reviewed the proposal to permit construction of an
18-unit addition to a 2?-unit motel on a rectangularly-shaped parr.el of
land consisting of approximately 0.76 acre, having a fcontage of
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approximately 137 feet on ttie east side o= Beach Boulevard, having a
maximum depth of appcoximately 239 feet and further desccibed as 420 South
Beach Boulevard (Arenal Motel); and does hereby approve the Negative
Declaration upon finding that it has considered the Negative Declaration
together with any comments teceived during the public review process and
furthec finding on the basis of the Initial Study and any comments
ceceived that the:e is no substantial evidence that the project will have
a significant effect on the environment.
Jay Titus, Office Engineer, stated staf£ would recommend that Condition
No. 2 be deleted requi[ing the reconstruction of driveways, inasmuch as
Beach Boulevard is a state highway.
Chairwoman La Claire asked about the satellite dish on L•he roof and felt a
condition should be included that it be screened from view. Hc. Yeh
stated the satellite dish will be set back and will not be seen.
Commissioner McBurney offered Resolution P7o. PC86-10 and moved for its
passage and adoption that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby
grant Conditioral Use Permit No. 2751 pursuant to Anaheim Municipal Code
Sections 18.03.030.030 through 18.03.030.035 and subject to
Interdapartmental Committee recommendations, deleting Condition No. 2.
On roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: BOUAS, rRY~ HERBST, LP. CLAIRE, MC BURNEY, MESSE
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: LAWICKI
6lalcolm Slaughtec, Deputy City Atto~ney, presented the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's decision within 22 days to the City
Council.
ZTEM 1J0. 14 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION, WAIVER OF CODE REQU.IREMENT AND
CONDITIONAL US~ PERMIT NO. 2752
PUBLIC HEARING. UWNERS: JEAN K. FOGHRTY, 6617 Canyon Hills Road,
Anaheim, CA 92807. AGENT: HUGU VAZQUEZ, 619 S. Live Oak, Anaheim, CA
923U5. Property desccibed as an i.cregularly-shaped parcel of land
consisting of approximately 1.04 acres. 2860 East Lincoln Avenue.
To permit an automobile ~epaic facility in the CL (COmmetcial, Limited)
Zone with a waiver of minimum number o: parking spaces.
lhete were five persons indicating their presEnce in opposition to subject
request and although the staff cepott was not read, it is referced to and
made a part of the rainutes.
Robert A. Locke, agent, explained they plan to upgrade this propetty
because it has been an eyesore for the community. He explained he has
been in business in Anaheim for 13 years and has a business at Lincoln and
Westezn.
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Betty Miller, 2857 Gerald Circle, Anaheim, 92806, stated she is very much
against this pcoject; that 5 years ago there was a motorcycle business on
this property and for 3 years she could not use hec backyard, swimming
pool oc open her drapes and it tcok 3 years to get cid of them, and then a
paint store moved in and that was a much better use, but now this will be
a noisy operation; that Lincoln Avenue has a latge volume of traffic
creating a lot of noise. She stated most of the work bays will be in the
cear of the building. She stated she went over to their other facility
and they have big steel doors in the tear and she thought they would be
open in the summer. She asked the hours of operation and stated she
understands they would be open 10 houcs a day. She added she noticed on
the plans that the trash bins will be adjacent to her fence. She stated
also there is a light there now which has been a problem and it lights up
her pcoperty all night. She stated she would like to be able to enjoy her
home.
Dale Bradford, 2861 Gerald Circle, stated he has lived at this address for
23 years. He stated he would like to discuss the illegal landfill put in
on that property 8 to 10 years ago; that when he moved to his house, he
had a 6-1/2 foot high concrete block fence and complete privacy in his
backyacd, but with the illegal landfill which was refuse, concrete blocks,
asphalt, etc., he now has a 9-foot fence from the Lincoln side and he felt
befoce anything is done on this propecty, they should be required to
restore the propecty to its original gcade level because it takes away his
privacy.
He stated the noise and odors created by this use with the revving of
engines will be unbearable. He stated there is a facility at Lincoln and
Rio Vista which repaics vehicles and it is simply a'junk yard' with cars
that have been there for a long time which will probably neve~ be moved
and he is afraid this is what will happen on this packing area which is
tight behind his home. He stated he was told thete would be an alley and
landscaping, but from the plans he thought there is going to be park.ing
spaces right up to the wall behind his property and there is no alley.
Aileen Bradford, 2861 Gerald Circle, stated they were promised an 8-foot
high fence and she heard that if there was going to be a wall it would
only be 6 feet hi9h and that would not provide them any privacy.
Mr. Locke stated the building adjacent to Mcs. Miller's property on the
south will be a solid wall with no doors except one small door to a
storage acea and that the noise Erom Lincoln Avenue will actually be
buffered by the building and the noise from their operation will be inside
the building. He stated the houes of operation will be 8:00 a.m. to 5:00
p.m. Regarding the light fcom the sign, he explained that would also be
blocked by the building itself. He stated it has always been one of their
policies to keep any cats there for repairs inside the facility and they
would nevet be parked outside avernight.
Concerning the problem with the landfill, he stated he was not sure what
they are talking about. He stated he believed the Bradford's pcoperty
will be enhanced by the landscaQing prop~sed and that the residents of the
community will be pleased. He stated it is their desire to get along with
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their neighbors because they want them to be their customers. He stated
they will constcuct a wall at whatever heiqht will be required by Code.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner Bouas pointed out there is a door on the plans on the south
side of the building. Mr. Locke explained that goes into the storage area
and will only be opened when the delivery trucks make a delivery and it
does not open into any service bay.
Commissioner Fry stated the word 'repair' is very broad permitting a lot
of different types of uses and asked exactly what this operation will be.
F1r. Locke stated basically 758 of their work is repai~s to brakes,
front-end work, tune-ups, alignments, tire balancing, etc. and is in and
out on the sane day, unless on a rare occasion, they would have a pzoblem
getting parts. He stipulated there would be no outside overnight storage
of vehicles.
Responding to Chairwoman La Claire, Mr. Locke stated they do install tires
and do use automatic tire changers and they have all the latest modern
equipment. He explained they have 14 employees at their facility at
Lincoln and Western and would er.pect to have 3 or 9 employees at this
facility in the first phase of the project and after Phase 2 is completed,
there would be 8 to 10 employees.
Rasponding to Chairwoman La Claire, Mr. Locke stated there will be no
windows on the south side of the building and only that one small door for
deliveries to the stocage room and thete will be a architectutal treatment
completely around the building which will benefit the homeowners to the
rear. He explained they seldom do any work that will actually require
revvin9 the engines. He responded to Commissioner Fry that they do not do
any body work.
Concecning the wall, he stated they will be constructing a wall at
whatevec height is requiKed and explaine~, basically, they are expanding
this building and ate extending 30 feet into the property and that the
majority of the property being developed will be landscaping and parking
lot.
Kendca Morries explained the requirement is for a 6-foot high wall
measured f[om the hi9hest grade; and that thece was a fish market proposed
on this propecty a numbet of years ago and there was discussion at that
time regarding the grade differential and the ~esidents to the south have
a gcade differential of approximately 2 feet lower than subject property.
Concerr.ing the lighting situation, Mc. Locke stated the sign in question
is presently on a timer and they have it set to go off at 11:00 p.m. and
he did not think it was that much bcighter than the neighbor's sign;
however, he does wish to please the neighbocs. Chairwoman La Claire
stated there have been complaints from two people and she felt lighting is
a very serious intr~sion into someone's house. Mr. Locke stated right now
there is nothing to block the light and it is in front cf the present
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facility and when the new building 9oes in, it will block that light. He
explained the only light in tha rear may be a light on the corner of the
building which would be directed down to the ground.
ACTION: Commissioner Fry offered a motion, seconded by Cr,,;;missionec Bouas
and MOTION CARRIED (COmmissioner Lawicki absent) that the Anaheim City
Planning Commission has reviewed the proposal to permit an aui:omobile
repaic facility in the CL (Commercial, Limited) 2one on ar
icregularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 1.04 acres,
having a frontage of aoproximately 691 feet on the south side of Lincoln
Avenue and futther describe~ as 2860 East Lincoln Avenue; and does hereby
approve the Negative Declaration upon finding that it has considered the
Ne9ative Declaration togethEr with any comments received during the public
review process and further finding on the basis of the Initial Study and
any comments rer.eived that there is no substantial evidence that the
project will have a significant effect on the enviconment.
Commissioner Fry offered Resolution No. PC86-11 and moved for its passage
and adoption that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby grant
Conditional Use Permit No. 2752 pursuant to Anaheim Municipal Code
Sections 18.03.030.03D through 18.03.030.035, in part, denying the request
for waiver of Code requirement on the basis that subsequent to
advertisement the waiver was deleted by revised plans and subject to
Interdepaztmental Committee recommendations.
There was a brief discussiun pertaining to the alley prior to the vote and
Kendra Morries explained that is a private access and not a public alley.
On roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: BOUAS, FRY, HERBST, LA CLAIRE, MC BURNEY, MESSE
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: LAWICKI
Malcolm Slaughtec, Deputy City Attocney, presented the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's decisio~ within 22 days to the City
Council.
RECESSED: 6:00 p.m.
RECONVENED: 7:00 p.m.
Commissioner McBurney left the meeting and did not return.
Zi WAS NOTED THE FOLLOWING ITEP1 WAS HEARD AFTER ITEM NO. 16
ITEM NO. 15 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND VARIANCE NO. 3519
PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: ARTHUR J. AND BARBARA C. POWELL, 613 S. Webster
Avenue, Anaheim, CA 92805. AGENT: HUGO VAZQUEZ, 619 S. Live Oak,
Anaheim, CA 92805. Propecty described as a rectangularly-shaped parcel of
land consisting of approximately 5,313 square feet, 613 South webster
Avenue.
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Waivecs of maximum structural height, maximum site coverage, minimum
landscaped setback and minimum recreational-leisure area to construct ~
3-story, 4-unit aiartment complex.
There was no one indicating their presence in opposition to subject
request and although the staff report was not read, it is ceferred to and
made a part of the minutes.
Jerry Drukin, 1280 E. Flower, Anaheim, was present to answe: any questions
and explained the pcoject to the Commission.
THE PUBLI(; HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissioner He~bst stated he th?nks this project is overbuilding the
peoperty by tryin9 to put a 4-plex on an 60 foot by 60 foot lot with
sevecal waivers being necessary. He stated he would not agree that a
3-story project will be an asset to the community.
Commissioner Bouas and Chai[woman La Clai[e agreed. Commissioner Hecbst
asked if the petitioner would like a continuance in crder to redesign the
pians. Mr. Drukin responded he would like a two-week continuance. Kendra
Morries explained revised plans would have to be submitted by Fciday of
this week.
ACTZON: Commissioner Herbst offeced a motion, seconded by Commissioner
t•tesse and MOTZON CARRIED (Commissioners Frya Lawicki and McBucney absent)
that consideration of the aforementioned mattec be continued to the
regularly-scheduled meeting of January 20, 1986, at the request of the
petitioner in order to submit revised plans.
ITEM N0. 16 EIR NEGATIVE DE;CLARAiION AND VARIANCE N0. 3:26
PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: JESSE AND GRACIELA GUTIERREZ, 11792 Della Lane,
Gacden Grove, CA 92640. AGENT: ARTURO ~1IER, 11702 Della Lane, Garden
Grove, CA 92640. Propezty described as a rectangularly-shaped parcel of
land consisting of app[oximately 0.77 acte, 2230 South Loara Street.
waivers of maximum structural height and minimum recreational-leisure
areas to construct a 26-unit apartment complex.
Thece were approximately thirty-one persons indicating their preser.ce in
opposition to subject request and although the staf.f repoct was not read,
it is referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Bob Williams, 17088 Button~ood, Fountain Valley, agent, explained they are
proposin9 26 units with one pottion being 89 feet from a single-family
residential boundary to the east; that this pcoject pcoposes two less
units than permitted by Code and they are providing as much setback as
possible on Loara Stceet due to the nice homes that are existing already;
however, there will be no windows or balconies to look down on those
single-family cesidences and there are 11 guest parking spaces in front.
He stated they tried to talk with the immediate adjacent neighbors.
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Gene Felling, 2220 S. Loara, Anaheim, stated he has lived at this addtess
for 23 years which is adjacent to the north and it is a good neighborhood
and is constantly being upgraded and the houses are valued itom $700,000
dcwn to $160,U00 with the average being $350,000 to $400,000. He stated
Loata Street narrows and is only about 50 feet wide at one point which
could create a bad situation. He presented a map showing the location of
homes of people who signed the petition in opposition and stated all the
neighbors do not want this project due to the density and the height. He
stated subterranean parking is an excellent idea, but not in this
single-family residential area and stated the first floor of this project
would be 6 feet above gcade which would be cight at his fence line. He
stated the design is nice, but this is the wrong location and it does not
fit with the characteristics of the neighborhood. He stated there are 40
single-family residences on Loara Street and they are beautiful home~ and
there are 80 single-family residences fcom streets leading into Loara. He
stated there are 3 single-story apartment projects on the street. He
stated 26 years ago there was a zoning change to allow some condominiums
in the area and there was a 25-year restciction for single-stocy units and
those 25 years have expired and now two stories are permitted. He stated
they ace opposed to a 3-story project and feel it will not fit into this
neighborhood.
Mr. Felling presented petitions, maps and pictures of homes in the area.
He stated tt.ere is a beautiful home on the propecty now which has a
swimming pocl and tennis courts and they would like to see it remain as a
sin9le-family residence. He presented maps showing all the residences on
the street and also photographs of every house on the street. He stated
the noise 9enerated in a subterranean garage which is extremely loud and
there are two vents out of that parking garage for ventilation and his
bedroom will be right next to one of the vents.
Mike Fallon, 1531 Wakefield, stated he owns propecty that backs up to
subject property and is also a ceal estate broker in the area and he
agrees with everything that has been said; and that this is a lovely
nei9hborhood and the psoperties are well maintained and this project would
certainly change the characteristics of that neighborhood and he would
strongly object to this development.
Harry Morissey, 1623 Lorane Way, pointed out there is a school to the
south of his property for crippled children and the buses cceate qaite a
traffic proUlem and he felt added traffic fcom this apartment complex,
will create a~remendous traffic hazard in that acea.
Ray Walton, 1617 W. Larane, stated he also owns property located at 1510
Kimberly Street near the intersection of Ninth and Katella and in April,
1985, he purchased this property on Locane and one of the reasons was the
desirability of the neighborhood and the surroundings with the quiet
cul-de-sac. He explained he moved fcom the previous residence to escape
the undesirable conditions of living near the very lar9e apartment complex
located at th. cornec of Ninth, Cerritos and Walnut and thought Police
ceports woulr! show there was a latge number of calls for Police action in
that project and he sees the possibility of tt~at same thir.g occurring with
this complex. He stated also, a lot of people who live in apactments walk
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to local shopping areas and in his previous residence, in order *o get to
the major shopping cenr.ers, they wo~ld go past his house and leave
shopping carts, etc. in front of the houses and he could foresee that same
problem here. He stated they also had vandalism and graffiti and a lot of
people who resided in those apactments would drive recklessly. He stated
he would strongly oppose high density apartment~ in thi.s neighborhood.
Bob Williams explained concerning the question of densitp, that the
property is zoned RM-1200 which would permit 28 units and they are only
proposing 26. Regarding the height, he explained the neighbor to the
north of subject property has a 2-story house which was built after 1959
with a variance. He stated the house on subject prooerty ri9ht now is in
bad condition and that the propecty was sold for apartments with the
zoning of RM-1200 for 28 units. He stated the units are all 2-bedroom, 2-
baths aimed at adults. He stated the owner has no problem putting in a
6-foot high fence around the entir~ property. Regar~ing the 2-stories, he
stated there are 4 units looking down onto the neighbor's property and
they have agreed to screen the balconies so the residents cannot look down
at all. He statetl the decks are only 60 square feet and are mainly for
the owner's cunvenience and would not be a place where people would
congregate and most of the living area is towards the center of the
ptoject. He stated there is a tennis court and pool on the property right
now and they could have kept those, but felt they would be too close tu
the neighbor's property. Regardin9 the subterranean parking, he explained
there would be no openings and the ventilation will be mechanical and he
did not think t:iere would be a lot of noise and they would be providing a
sound study to pcove that. He stated the entire project will be
sprinklered and will be a high-quality project with a higher rent than
normal because they are going to ma~e it really nice a~d also the owner
will live in the project.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Commissionec Herbst stated this parcel is zoned RM-1200 and the only
variance needed is for the 150-foot setback. Ke[idra Mocries stated the
apolicant is requesting two waivers, maximum structural height and minimum
recreational-leisure ar.ea. Commissioner Herbst staL•ed if the project met
Code, they could t~uild it without coming before the Planning Commission.
Chairwoman La Claire asked how far the project would be from the dwelling
units on the opposite side of the street. Mr. Williams stated they would
be 150 feet away. He stated the streets are 64 feet wide and they are set
back anothez 32 feet to the 1-story portion of the buildings. Mr.
Williams stated it is 149 feet, 7 inches to the stairwell which is 9 feet
wide so it is actually more than 150 feet to the structures.
Chairwoman La Claire stated she usually votes for some of the 2-story
projects, but in this case there are no other 2-story projects on that
block and this property is the same size as the others. Mr. Williams
stated the one to the south was developed 24 years ago and if today's
codes did not have such extensive open space requirements, he could
develop a similar project, but because of the cost of the land today, it
would not be feasible.
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Chairwoman La Claire stated a lot of people are paying too much money for
pcoperty and are not checking it before they purchase it. She stated when
the Commission grants a variance, it is suppose to be because of the size,
shape, oc topography of the property and this property is irregularly-
shaped and flat and there is no justification for a waiver.
Mr. Williams stated the property is between two single-family residences,
even though the properties are zoned for multiple-family units.
Chairwoman La Claice stated it is not the properties on either side which
limits development of this property, and there is no diffecence between
this pcoperty and other properties in the area.
Mr. Williams stated in order to develop the property to its highest use, a
waiver would be necessary and they have eliminated a lot of the waivers;
and that there is a possibility they could develop 26 one-story units, but
would need a lot coverage varianr.e.
Chairwoman La Claire stated she is having a problem with this pcoject
because the other projects in the acea are single-story. Mr. Williams
stated there are othPc 2-story projects in the area, even though they are
sin9le-family residences.
ACTIUN: Commissioner Herbst offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner
Fty and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Lawicki and McBUrney absent) that
the Anaheim City Planning Commission has reviewed the pcoposal to
construct a 26-unit apactment complex with waivers of maximum structural
height and minimum recreational-leisure areas on a rectangularly-shaped
parcel of land consisting of approximately 0.77 acre, having a frontage of
approximately 112 feet on `he east side of Loara Street and further
described as 2230 SouL•h I.^,ara; and does hereby approve the Negative
Declatation upon finding that it has considered the Negative Declaration
together with any comments ceceived ducing the public review ptocess and
further finding on the basis of the Ir.itial Study and any comments
received that khere is no substantial evidence that the project will have
a significant effect on the environment.
Commissionec Herbst offered Resolution No. PC86-12 and moved for its
passage and adoption that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby
deny Variance No. 3526 on the basis that thece are no special
circumstances applicable to the property such as size, shape, topography,
location and surroundings which do apply to othe~ iden~ically zoned
pcoperty in the same vicinity; and that strict application of the Zoning
Code does not depcive the property of privileges enjoyed by other
propetties in the identical zone and classification.
Commissioner Herbst pointed out the devaloper could develop an apartment
complex without a public hearing before the Planning Commission as long as
he does not need a variance and that anyone can request a change. He
stated many variances have peen granted in Anaheim at less than 150 feet.
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On roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by che following vote:
AYES: BOUAS, FRY~ HERBST, LA CLAIRE, LAWICKI, MC-BURNEY, MESSE
NOES: NONE
ABSENi: NONE ~. ~ ~- ~-
Malcolm Slaughter, Deputy City Attorney, presented the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's decision within 22 days to the City
Council.
Commissioner F'ry le:Er_ the meeting and did not return.
ITEI~ NO. 17 EIR CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION-CLASS 5 AND VAP,IANCE NO. 3527
PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: GERALD R. AND BEVERELY V. BUSHORE, 721 N. Euclid
Street, #2~2, Anaheim, CA 92801. Property described as an
irreyularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 1.0 acres,
381 South Henning Way.
Waivers of minimum side yard setback and minimum rear yard setback to
construct a single-family residenc~, guest house and detached accessory
garage.
There was no one indicating their presence in opposition to subject
request and although the staff report was not read, it is refe:red to and
made a part of the minutes.
Gerald Bushore, owner, explained this is a hardship piece of property and
is irregularly-shaped and is smaller than other properties in the area;
that this is a very unique area with only 5 houses developed and this will
be the last one to be deve~oped. He explained he is requesting a variance
due to the topography of the pcoperty and is placing the garage where is
it proposed to all~w maximum use of the property and it is designed to
compliment the main house and moving it one way or the other will cause
circulation problems. He stated the nei9hbors have been given copies of
tlie plans and they did not have any problems with the plans. He stated he
has to put in a septic pit which will take a large piece of the property
because there are no City sewers in that area. He stated there will be a
pool, a water fall with a cobblestone creek running the e~tire width and
most of the length of the property, a covered bridge, etc.; and that there
is a guest house designed in such a location and manner that if the
propetty is ever split, it can be a property unto itself. He stated the
neighbors have garages with similar setbacks. He stated there is a large
canyon behind the property and he has tried to buy other pioperties in the
neighborhood.
t9r. Bushore referred to conditions requiring that the project be
constructed in accordance with plans and stated there may be some changes
and also there is a condition reguiring that the guest house be used by
persons employed on the premises or by temporary guests and shall not be
rented separately or used fot commercial purposes and that he hoped that
condition would not apply if the propetty is split in the futute. Eie
referred to Condi~ion No. 9 requiring that fees be paid prior to issuance
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of building permits; howevet, he cannot pay the fees until he is ready =o
get permits. Malcoln Slaugl~ter, Deputy City Attorney, stated the City is
only entitled to req~ice the payment of the fees when they are necessary
and if they were paid, the City would have to pay them back. He stated
there are a couple of conditions which refer to specitic amounts and the
otdinanc?s which impose those fees have some flexibility so at the time
they ace paid, they could be more than the specific amount mentioned and
the petitioner would be subject to the highec fees.
Mr. Bushore stated the condition states, "whichevec occurs ficst', which
means he has to pay tne fees within 1 year or bring in the plans within 1
year. Kendra Mocries stated if the building permits are not obtained
within 1 year, the applicant has to request an extension of time for th.^
variar~ae and that is ttie intention of that condition. Malcolm Slaughter
stated these conditions have to be construed in light of Code pcovisions
and that they provide that the petitioner must execcise the rights unde:
the permit within 1 year or it shall terminate.
Commissioner Bonas asked where the creek will drain. Mr. Bushore stated
it is a recirculating creek.
Chairwomdn La Claire asked why the variance is needed for the setback.
Mr. Busho~e stated the setback is a minimum of 9 feek. and may be more
because it has to be far enough away from the ravine because of slippage,
etc. He explained he has retaining problems on possibly thcee sides and
could not move it because he would not have adequate back-up areas for the
main garage or the accessory garage. He explained he studied several
diEfecent configucations in o:der to get the main structure on the
property and maximize his view and this is the best plan he has been able
to come up with. Mr. Bushore stated he pcesented his plans to Mr. Stody,
his neighbor to the south, and he had ~o problem.
Chairwoman La Claire stated if tt~e propecty to l•he south wants a variance
ir. the future 9 feet f~om suUject property, the Commission woul~ p[obably
ha~re to gcant it.
It was noted the Planning Director or his ~uthorized representative has
determined that the proposed pcoject falls within the definition of
Categorical Exemptions, Class 5, as defined in the State Environmental
Impact Repoct Guidelines and is, therefore, categorical.ly exempt from the
requicement to prepare an EIR.
ACTION: Commissioner La Claire offeced P.esolution No. PCSF-13 and moved
for its passage and adoption thak the Anaheim City Planning Commission
does hereby qrant Variance No. 3527 on the basis that there are special
circumstances applicable to the property such as size, shape, topography,
location and sucroundings which do not apply to othec identically zoned
pcoperty in the same vicinity; and that strict application of the Zoning
Code deprives the property of privileges enjoyed by other properties in
the identical zone and classification in the vicinity and subject to
Intezdepactmental Committee cecommendations.
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On roll call, the foregoing cesolution was passed by the following vote:
AY~S: BOUAS, HERBST, LA CLAIRE~ MESSE
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: FRY, LAWICKI, MC BURNEY
Malcolm Slaughtec, Deputy City Attorney, pcesented the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's decision within 22 days to the City
Council.
ITEM N0. 18 L•'NVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT NO. 259 (PREV. CERTIFIED) AND
VARIANCE NO. 3529
PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: D 6 D DEVELOPMENT CUMPANY, 711 E. Imperial
Highway, 83, Brea, CA 92621, ATTN: CAMILLE COURTNEY. Property described
as an ir~egularly-shaped pa~cel of land consisting of approximately 7.5
acres, approximately 1,340 feet south of the centerline of Rio Vista
Street.
Waivec of required lot frontagQ to permit a 4-lot, condominium subdivision.
There was no one indicating their presence in opposition to subject
request and although the staff report was not read, it is referred to and
made a part of the minutes.
Camille Couctney, agent, was present to answer any questions.
THE PUB~IC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
It was noted Enviconmental Impact Report No. 259 was previeusly certified
for subject pcoperty by the City Council on December 6, 1983.
A~TION: Commissioner Herbst offered Resolution No. PC86--14 and moved for
its passage and adoption that the Anaheim City Plannin9 Commissi.on does
hereby grant Variance No. 3529 on the basis that there are special
circumstances applicable to the property such as size, shape, topography,
location and surroundings which do not apply to other identically zoned
ptopecty in the same vicinity; and that stcict application of the Zoning
Code deptives the property of privileges e~joyed by other properties in
the identical zone and classification in the vicinity and subject to
Intecdepartmental Committee recommendations.
On roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the followin9 vote:
AYES: BOUAS, HERBST, LA CLAIRE, MESSE
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: FRY, LAWICKI~ MC BURNEY
Malcolm Slaughter, Deputy City Attorney, presented the written zight to
appeal the Planning Commission's decision within 22 days to the City
Council.
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ITEM NO. 19 EIR NEGATI4E DECLARATION AND VARIANCE NO. 3530
PUBLIC HEARING. Ol9NERS: SOUTH STREET PARTNERS, c/O THE HAYEu COMPANY,
MANAGIi1G PARTNER, 150 Paularino, #142, Costa Msha/edA arcel~ fTland DAN S.
HAYES. PXOperty described a20a4racresglocated atptheFnorthea~t cornec of
consistiny of approximately
South Street and 02ive St~eet.
Wai~ers of maximum number of compact Qarking spaces and minimum number of
psrking spaces to construct an industrial wacehouse facility.
There was one person indicating hec presence in opposition to subject
request and although the staff regort was not read, it is referred to and
made a part of the minutes.
Dan Hayes, representing the owners, referced to Condition No. 8 pertaining
to the abandonment of Water Stree~ on the northeastern portion of the
property and pointed out Quikset was the owner of that property and at one
time requested the abandonment of Water Street beginning at Olive Street,
east to Atchison and it stopped just short of Atchison Street and they are
in the process of filing for the abandonment for the balance of Watec
Street for the full imp~ovement of the cui-de-sac. He refecred to
Condition No. 11 pertaining to a reciprocal access and packing agreem~nt
accoss a recorded parcel map lot and stated he would like to have it
clacified that the ceason for that is to make certain all the lots have
free emergency ar,c?ss available. He stated they do have a~roblem with
vehiculat access between the lots and explained the end of Atchison Street
terminates into a cul-de-sac and noted there is current flooding pr~blems
when it rains, but allowing free access between the lots for vehicular
traffic of a non-emergency nature means people employed on those lots
could go through their building lots to the sc•itti on Olive Street aarkinat
is not acceptable to them. He stated the issue of the reciprocal p 9
agreement is incocrect and that the lots should stand on their own and
stated they recognize they cannot decrease the number of spaces on any one
lot, but did not think it is the intention of staff to allow people
leasiny Building No. 1 on the north to utilize the parking stalls in front
of Building No. 2 0^ the south.
Malcolm Slaughter stated Condition No. 8 is to cover two possible
contingencies, one being the abandonment of Water Street b~°ing ~equested
and approved or alternatively being denied•reviewedyby thetadjoining
abandonment is bein9 pcepaced and is being
property owners and they expect to have it signed by the end of this week.
Jay Titus, Office Engineec, stated the 32 feet referced to is if the
abandonment of Water Stceet is not approved, the petitioner would dedicate
32 feet from the centerline of Water Street and improve that. He add2d
the dedication is for a cul-de-sac at the end of Atchison and if the
dedication is approved it should be included as a condition and the
standard radius for a cul-de-sac should be 50 feet.
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Mr. Hayes stated t:~e~• have cffeted to the adjoining property owners that
if the abandonment is approved, they will remove the existing asphalt when
they regrade the' property and repave the~r F~operty at the same time and
will improve Atc~ .~on Street. He add~ed they are putting in a storm drain
to cure the drai.age problem.
Jay Titus stated a condition should be added that a 50-foot dedication for
a cul-de-sac would be required if the abandonment is approved. Mr. Hayes
stated the plans approvpa ,ray be less than 50 feet foc a cul-de-sac.
Kendra Morries stated it wzs staff's incention re9arding Condikion No. 11
to require a reciprocal access agreement, but not a parking agreement.
Angelina Veyna, 601 South Olive, stated she is not opposed to this
request, but is concerned about the entrance near the intersection o£
Olive and Water Streets. She stated she would like to request further
consideration for either a stop sign on Olive or a traffic signal at this
intersection because if future traffic enters at this entrance, there is a
concern with children walking tc and from Thomas Jefferson School and
intense traffic movements alceady exist at that intecsection because of
the thriving businesses at the market and cafe and the traffic movement
generated by Quikset employees and with increased traffic from their
employees and the railroad tr~ffi.c, she thougnt there could be a problem.
She pointed out there are 5 or 6 train trips per day through there and
that Olive Street is sometimes used as a drag strip.
Paul Sinyer stated there is a stop sign presently at South and Olive and
his staff will review the intersectian at Water and Olive to see whether
or not it warrants a stop sign, but that does not have anything to do with
this development. He explained there is a dciveway out to Olive in the
vicinity of Water and it was noted Water Street has been abandoned.
Malcolm Slaughter stated a parcel map would not come before the Ylanning
Cummission unless *_here is a condition requiring that it be reviewed by
the Commission. Jay Titus further explained if there is such a request,
the conditioaal use permit or variance would come before tne Planning
Commission, but not the parcel map.
Chairwoman La Claire asked i£ eac5 property could stand on its own without
a ceciprocal parkin9 a9reament and Kendra Morries responded that they
could.
Mt. Hayes responded to Commissioner Herbst that he did not think there
would be any interstate trucking firms at thie location because they
cannot get to that location and he did not think they are allowed on the
City streets.
Respondin9 to Chairwoman La Claire, Mr. Hayes stated the smallest building
on the southeast corner is currently Quikset'~ powdered metal division
which is in the process of being marketed for sale and the buyer may be
closin9 that business and that building may become available. He stated
he doES not have any specific tenant in mind for the other building, but
they are typically warehousin9 distribution buildings capable of being
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serviced by the Santa Fe railroad from the east rather than from the west
by Southecn Pacific. xe stated there may be 1, 2 or 3 tenants in the
facilities.
Paul Singez stated plans showed futute openings i°.cant~to removelthen line
with the driveway and he has worked with the app
driveways from the front of those overhead doors and would like that added
as a condition because that would encoucage large trucks to back onto
South Stceet.
Kr. Hayes stated they would agree.
Chai~woman La Claire stated she is concerned about hazardous waste or
chemicals since ehis is close to the cailroad. Mc. Hayes stated the Fire
Marshall has control over that type of use and they would have tothere is
before the City for a Business License a~ndh~ouoheand statednhe would
a very rigorous exercise they have to g 9
stipulate to see that no lease is granted to anyone who has hazardous
waste oc chemicals.
Malcolm Slauyhter referced to Condition No. 15 pertaining to oversized
vehicles and sug9ested a covenant be cequired to give notice to future
buyecs of the property of the City's concbeingndonetbyetheaCityrinHthat
asked if there was not something already
regard. Paul Singer stated oversized vehicles are cegulated by the State;
however, any company can make th~mselves available to accommodate
oversized trucks or vehicles and the City of Anaheim is concerned about
getting the oversized vehicles to and from the freeway. Mr. Hayes stated
he would have no problem with a covenant and that they would suppott
ceview of the stop signs on Watec Street.
ACTION: Commissionec Herbst offe[ed a motion, seconded by Commissioner
Bouas and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Fry, Lawicki and McBurney absent)
that the Anaheim City Planning Commission has reviewed the ptoPosal to
construct an industrial warehousing facility with waivecs of maximum
number of compact parking spaces and minimum number of parking spaces on a
cectangulacly-shaped parcel of land c•~nsisting of approximately 20.4 acres
located at the northeast corr,er of South Street and Olive Street; and does
heteby approve the Negative Declaration upon finding that it has
considered the Negative Declaration together with any comments received
du~ing the public review process and further finding on the basis of the
Initial Study and any comment.s received that there is no substantial
evidence that the project will have a significant effect on the
environment.
Commissioner Herbst offered Resolution No. PC86-15 and moved for its
passage and adoption that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby
grant Variance No. 3530 on the ba~is that the parking waiver will not
cause an inccease in tcaffic congestion in the xmmediate vicinity nor
adversely affect any adjoining land uses and granting oi the parking
waiver unde~ tl~e conditions imposed, if any, will not be de:timental to
the peace, health, safety and genezal ~relface of the citizens of the City
of Anaheim and subjeck to the petitioner's stipulation to record a
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covenant against the property wit:~ the Otange County Recorder's Office in
a form approved by the City Attorney's Office to guarantee that no
oversized vehicles will be accommodated at this facility as indicated in
Condition No. 15 and subject to Interdepartmental Committee
recommendations.
On roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the iollowing vote:
AYES: BOUAS, HERBST~ LP. CLAIRE, MESSE
NOES: NONE
ABSENl: FRY, LAWICKI, MC BURNEY
Malcolm Slaughter, Deputy C?tv Attorney, presented the written right to
appeal the Planning Commission's aecision within 22 days to the City
Council.
ITEM N0. 20 EIR NEGATIVE DECLARAT70N (PREV. APPRGVED) AND CONDIT70NAL USE
PERMIT NO. 2274 ~READVERTISED)
PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: ORANGE COUNTY WATER DISTRICT, P. O. BoX
Fountain Valley, CA 927U8. AG~NT: PAT WELSH OR ELLIOTT D. NEFF, Jr.,
1124 N. Richfield P.oad, Anaheim, CA 92807. Propecty described as an
ictegularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 19.2 acres,
having a frontage of approximately 1,336 feet or. the east side of
Richfield Road, 1124 North Richfield Road (walsh Engineering and Neff
Contracting).
To consider revised plans and conditions permitting expansion of a truck
and heavy equipment storage yacd.
There was no one indicating their presence in opposition to subject
tequest and although the staff report was not read, it is referred to and
made a part of the minutes.
Elliott Neff, agent, stated when they came into the City for a Business
License it was denied, so they ace requesting this conditional use
permit. He stated basically, nothing in their operation will change, but
they were tolcl by the Water District they would have to take all the back
two acres adjoining this property because it was landlocked.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
It was r.oted a ~~gative Leclaration was previously approved on subject
property on December 25, 1981, in conjunction with Conditional Use Permit
No. 2974.
ACTZON: Chairwoman La Claire offered Resolution No. PC86-16 and moved for
its passage and adoption that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does
hereby recommend to City Council approval of revised plans and conditions
for permitting the expansion o£ a truck and heavy equipment storage yard,
subject to the amended conditions.
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on roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AY~S: BOUAS, dERBST, LA CLAIRE, MESSE
NUES: NONE
AIISBNT: FRY, LAWICKI~ MC BURNEY
Malcolm Slaughter, Deputy City Attorney, presented the wcitten right to
appeal the Planning Commission's decision within 22 days to the City
Council.
I:EM_ N_ ~_~_Z1 REPORiS AND RECOMMENDATZONS:
p, TENTATIVE TRACT NO• f~AnaheimeHillside GcadingVOcdinance asSitfoL a
waivec of the City
celates to the location of manufactured slopes within residentia
lots artd within the ttact boundary of Tcact No. 10968.
ACTIOH: Commissionec He~bst offered a motion, seconded byLawicki and
Commissioner Bouas and MOTION CARRIED ~Planning~Commission does
McBUrney absent) that the Anaheim City
asrityrelateswtoVthe locationtof~manufacturedlsl pesGwithin TractaNoe
10968.
g, SENIOR CITIZEN CONDOMINIUMS - Request fcom State-Wide Developers,
Inc., that the City consider Senior Citizens' Residential
Condominiums unde~ the development standards for Senior Citizens'
Apattments.
Annika Santalahti, Assistant Dicector for Zoning, presented the staff
cepo[t and explained the current Senioc Citizen Ordinance addresses
apartments for senior citizens aneCtainingeto condominiumsmenotltoe
there had not been any requests p
include condominiums in thbe shouldebeadiffecent betweenlapartmentsy
be some standards that may
and condominiums. She add=o ecttfot1s~niorecitizens,ebutttheSCodeln
developing a condominium p] uestin
would have to be amended. She stated the developer is req attments
these condominiums be allowed with the same swhethersorsnot the
under tlie same ocdinance and Sofftheystandacds such as parking or
Commission wishes to have any
unit size reviewed and whether or not they should be different.
Tom Tincher, 8442 Aspinwood, Westminstec, stated they believe thete
is a va~iety of housing needs for senior citizens and a vari~he focus
housing types in order to meet those needs; that p~imarily,
has been on the vecy poot senior citizen through the government
subsidized programs and recently, many cities have developed
affordable cental stand6rbeyond that andetherelishasneednforcognized
that the needs really 9 osed to rental units. He referred
affordable 'for sale' units as oPP una Beach and Seal Beach and
to the Leisure Wocld facilities in Lagton Beach have developed senior
pointed out also Fullerton and Hunting
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citizen condominium standards to allow such developments to move
forward. He stated he was involved when the Huntington Beach
standards were established for the Emerald Cove project and that
pcoject plus the Fullerton project can be studied to help provide a
standard for Anaheim. He stated the standards for Emerald Cove
project were basically the same that are imposed on senior citizen
rental projects with the option to provide open parking o[ covered
parking and the parking standards for rental units were .6 space per
unit and 1.15 space for condominium project. He stated the Fullerton
project has .8 space per unit requirement which is consistent with
Anaheim's rental project requirement. He stated they analyzed those
projects and believed the .8 space per unit foc the stu~io and
1-bedcoom units is adequate based on the Fullerton project; however,
do not believe 1.15 space per unit is acceptable for a 2-bedroom
condominium unit and would recommend 1.6 space per unit for a
2-bedroom unit. He stated they feel comfortable with the City of
Anaheim's parking standards for apartments based on theic e~perience.
He stal-ed the question af affordability has been discussed and
Anaheim Senior Citizen Code has a 258 affordable built in and neither
Fullerton nor Huntington Beach have an affordable requirement, except
when a density bonus is used. He explained they met with staff in an
attempt to address the affordability issue and they feel the project
as designed could support the 258 affordability requicement. He
stated they ace trying to provide affordable senior citizen housing
without a need f.or public subsidy and have looked at a lot of
different concepts in ordec to put in a quality project and still
have the affordabiliti. He stated under the shared housing option,
there are 2-bedroom, 2-bath situations to accommodate a shared
housing situction and that program has real advantages in that it
allows the senior purchaser to have a steady revenue in the future
and in addition, it oper.s up an affordable rPntal situution for
another senioc citiaen and is an unique opportunity to work directly
with the City and its shared t~ousing efforts currently undec way. He
stated one of the major obscacles in shared housing is the fact that
they aze usually established homes where regardless of early-on
compatibility between the two persons involved, there is still the
'my liome' versus the 'your space' situation and the unit is designed
to provide independence and separateness in the living areas and they
would work directly with the City to market that product. He stated
62 of the units proposed for this site cauld provide affordable
housing oppoctunities. He stated this concept was discussed with the
Orange County Agency on Housing Advisory Committee and the response
was very positive.
Responding to Commissioner Messe, Annika Santalahti stated the
minimum square footage for senior citizen apart~ents is about 100
feet smallec than for regular apartments. Commissioner Herbst stated
he has a problem with using the same ocdinance for
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apartments as condominiums and does not agree with the proposed
project because the parking is all at one end of the units and he
thought they should be designed so each unit has its own parking
spaces.
Commissioner Messe stated he thought the location is questionable for
senior citizen housin9 because there are no banks, post offices,
shopping centers, etc. close by.
Mt. Tincher stated they are requestin~ information as to the
Commission's feelings on the shaced housing concept fo~ this
particulac site because tF.ey alceady own :t. He stated this site has
some very serious problem~ with the r"lood Control Channel which runs
thcough it ar.s they have fo~nd, aftec a lot of research regarding
what is happening in the senioc citizen housing f.ield, that the needs
ace eeally mixed. He referred to the Orchard project of about 500
units in San Diego which received a lot of publicity and pointed out
they have consolidated their parking to the pecimeter in order to
maintain security and open space in the pcoject. He stated this
project will be oriented towards the more active senior citizen,
those who are mobile and not in a situation to need assistance.
commissioner Herbst stated that is why he feels the City's ordinance
will not meet the parking requirements for that type of living
environment because the people who could buy those units will
probably have one o~ two vehicles. He stated he is not concerned
about the size of the units, but he will be concerned about the
design with the common parking area a long way from the units,
pacticularly to senior citizens when they go shoppin9 and have to
bring in groceries.
Mr. Tinchec stated the Com~issionecs should ~~isit the Emerald Cove
project because it is a similar situation somewhat removed from the
senio~ services, but there is a t:emen~ous market for that type
quality pcoject and the units were sold before the project was
developed. He stated affordabiliky is a primary concecn for the
seniocs and most of those people are buying down, getting rid of
their bigger homes. He staced a large number would probably have an
automobile, especially in this location.
Chairwoman La Claire stated she feels this is a good area, but has a
problem with the size of the units. She stated if the ordinance
remains the same as for apartments, thece will be a lot of people
trying to co~vert to condominiums and she did not like the idea with
that small unit and maybe the ordinance sl~ould be changed requiring
higher parking requicements and largec sized units.
Commissioner Messe agreed that both should be increased. Mr. Tincher
stated they ace proposing 1.6 spaces per unit as compared to
Huntington Beach at 1.15 and they are currently
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considecing thei~ requirements, but the developer feels comfortable
with 1.6 for the 2-bedroom situations.
The size of the condominiums were discussed and Mc. Tincher explained
the project at Huntington Beach had 1-bedroom units at 60C square
feet, 2-bedroom units with 720 square feet; however, the Fullerton
p[oject had 508 studio units and 50$ 1-bedroom units, but there is a
less demand for the studio units so their proposal is to minimize the
number of studio units and noted the studio units in Fullerton are a
little less than 400 sq~are feet.
Commissioner Herbst suggested 450 sguare feet for a studio unit, and
600 square feet for a 1-bedroom, and S50 square feet foc 2-bedroom
units and 1 parking space for each bedroom. Commissionec Messe
stated that is exactly the apartment requi[ements and felt the
square footage should be higher for condominiums and sug9ested 450,
700 and 800.
Chairwoman La Claire suggested the studios at 500 square feet because
those units will be purchased and after the senior has made the
purchase, they woul.d not want to move if they do not like the size.
Mr. Tincher pointed out tre affordability is the selling point and at
SUO square feet the developer probably would eliminate the bachelor
units. He stated some nice units can be developed at 450 square
feet.
it was suggested this matter be continued foc further consideration
for two weeks. it was suggested the Commission visit the Fountains
in Fullerton and the Enerald Cove project in Huntington Beach.
ACTION: Commis~io~~~* Hecbst offered a motion, seconded by
Commissioner Aouas and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners F'ry, Lawicki and
McBurney absent) that consideration of the aforementioned item be
continued to the regularly-scheduled meeting of January 20, 1986.
ADJOURNMENT: Commissiorier Souas offered a motion, seconded by
Commissioner Herbst and MOTION CARRIED (COmmissioners Fry,
Lawicki and McBurney absent) that the meeting be adjourned.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
Respect£ully submitted,
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E ith~s, Secretary
Anaheim City Planning Commission
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