Minutes-PC 1993/03/08.^
ACTION AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
MONDAY, MARCH 8, 1993, AT 11:00 A.M.
PRELIMINARY PLAN REVIEW PUBLIC HEARING
(PUBLIC TESTIMONY)
11:00 A.M. 1:30 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: BOYDSTUN, CALDWELL, HENNINGER, MESSE, PERA7~4, TAIT
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: MAYER
STAFF PRESENT: Meeg Hast ngsSDetectfve Jackson,ISe ma MannrcGreg McCafferty, Margarka Sdorio,
Nna-' Yalda
PROCEDURE TO EXPEDITE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. The proponents in applications which are not contested will have five minutes to present their
evldence. Additional limo will be granted upon request ff, in the opinion of the Commission, such
additional time will produce evldence Important to the Commission's conskleration.
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2. In contested applications, the proponents and opponent will each be gNen ten minutes to present
their case unless additional time is requested and the complexity of the matter warrants. The
commission's considerations are not determined by the length of time a participant speaks, but
rather by what is saki.
3. Staff Reports are part of the evidence deemed received by the Commission in each hearing.
Copies are available to the. public prior to the meeting.
4. The Commission will wfthfiold questions until the public hearing is closed.
5. The Commission reserves the right to deviate from the foregoing if, in its opinion, the ends of
fairness to all concerned will be served.
6. Ali documents presented to the Planning Commission for review in connection with any hearing,
including photographs or other acceptable visual representations or non-documentary evklence,
shall be retained by the Commission for the public record and shall be available for public
inspections.
7. At the end of the scheduled hearings, members of the public will be allowed to speak on items of
interest which are within the Jurisdiction of the °{anning Commission, and/or agenda Items. Each
speaker will be allotted a maximum of five (5) minutes to speak.
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ta. rEOA MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION Continued to
1b. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT March 22, 1993
1c. CONDI i ONAL USE PERMIT N0. 3538
OWNER: EUCLID STREET BAPTIST CHURCH OF ANAHF'~A
AND BRYAN CROW & EVANGELISTIC ASSO(!IATES,
Attn: Rev. Bryan L Crow, 8712 E. Santa Ana Canyon, Anaheim,
CA 92808
LOCATION: 8712 East Santa Ana Canvon Road. Property is approximately
3.3 acres located on the south side of Santa Ana Canyon Road
and approximately 5,460 feet east of the centedine of Riverview
Drive.
To permit the phased development of a 100,000 square foot church facility
including a 2,000 seat sanctuari, bible study classrooms, nursery, gymnasium,
amphftheater and botanical garden with waiver of permitted number and size of
freestanding identification signs.
Continued from the November 2, 1992 and February e, January 11, and
February B, 199s Planning Commission meetings.
CONDITIONAL USE PEriMIT RESOLUTION N0.
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FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO BE
CONSIDERED OFFICIAL MINUTES.
No Discussion
ACTION: Continued to March 22, 1993
VOTE: 6-0 (Commissioner Mayer absent)
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2a. CEOA NEGATIVE DECLARATION Continued to
2b. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT April 5, 1993
2C. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 3592
OWNER: JEAN K FOGARTY, 6671 Canyon Hills, Anaheim, CA 92807
AGENT: RON JOHNSEN, 6757 Eastwood Drive, Anaheim, CA 92807
LOCATION: 2gQ0 E. Lincoln Avenue. Property Is approximately 1.34 acres
located on the south skle of Lincoln Avenue and approximately 330 feet
east of the centerline of Rio Vista Street.
To construct aself-serve car wash facility in conjunction with an existing commercial
retail center with waiver of minimum landscape setback abutting an arterial highway
and minimum landscape setback abutting a single-family resklential zone boundary.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION NO.
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO BE
CONSIDERED OFFICIAL MINUTES.
PETITIONER'S COMMENTS:
Ron Johnsen, 930 N. Grand Avenue, Santa Ana, explained hs and his wffe are
planning to develop aself-service car wash at 2880 N. Lincoln Avenue.
His project will be located at a non•usage type of property. It is the pie shaped left
over of a shopping center and nothing can be butt on k. He stated he and his wffe
have operated a car wash in Santa Ana for four years. They have had no
complaints from Santa Ana Code Enforcement or the Pdice Department on how
they operate their facility.
He submitted pictures of the site and stated that site !s being used as a parking lot.
He stated the owner of the property is aware of the problem and is trying to solve
it by allowing a capable and community ;~on::.ience type of business to operate
there.
He stated the usage of this property is very limited. The most Important thing they
were concerned on building on this property is the environment. How does this car
wash affect the environment? The car wash has been designed to implement very
low noise standards. He designed the car wash taking the neighborhood into
consideration.
He stated they went around and talked to a lot of the neighbors and got a list of
signatures of people in favor of this project.
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~ He stated this area is in high demand for a car wash because there are over four
thousand homes and over one hundred apartment buildings in the area. He stated
this car wash is designed for the people in the area.
He stated this is a very unique car wash. It will have a basement where all the
louder equlpmeM will be located. it is far below the decimal readings that is
required from the Cfty. The vacuum station, being the largest contribution to noise,
will be below surface, in the basement. It will be a motor assembly wfth dust
collectors. The car wash will have twelve foot lights and only two will be located
on the back. They will have blinders, so there will be no glare to the reskfential
community.
He stated they will be creating an environment that is pleasing to tha
neighborhood. The front area will be landscaped. He is proposing a six foot
cylinder block in the rear for the total length of the property. The wall will be a
sound barrier. Uncoln Avenue has an excess of thirty two thousand cars that travel
on ft every day. This creates a constant noise factor. The cypress trees will be
another sound bawler.
He stated they will have signs posted prohibiting radios blasting and they will have
Ilmfted hours. They will have trash receptacles.
They are building something which is strongly needed in the community.
This property is compatible wfth regards to the curcent zoning regulations.
He stated he met with the City Traffic and Transportation Manager to review the
project and was assisted with the design of ingress and egress of the property.
He designed the car wash for the neighborhood, for the people that are going to
be using it and for the people who are affected behind the property. This is
reflected on the design and that is how ft will be built.
The place of property Is vacant and has different types of fences in the
background. Ho stated his protect will Improve the area because of its beauty and
the overall design.
The car wash will benefft the area, the closest one is about two miles sway on
State College.
Mrs. Johnsen, 930 N. Grand, Santa Ana, stated she would Tike to talk about water
conservation. She stated in this era of water shortage many people do not wash
their cars in their driveway, Instead, they find other sources to comply. They tend
to go to aself-service car wash. Although water officials in the area, such as Santa
Barbara and Ventura, have announced the end of the drought, the State Is advising
consumers to continuo monftoring their water. We could have another long hot
summer and go back Into the drought.
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She stated since many of the driveway washers are people who want to do K
themselves, the self-service car wash is a natural choice for washing their
automobile. The advantage of the self service iaciliry is that, on a national average,
h uses less than ten gallons of water per vehicle. In your driveway you use fifty to
sixty gallons of water, if not more, depending on the type vehicle you are washing.
She would like Commission to take recognition to the water conservation and
support them with their project.
George Leighton, consultant in noise control, stated he would like to address the
negative report. There are three areas where the report is Incorrect. The first one
is found under the Environmental Impact Analysis. It incorrectly refers to Council
Policy 542 which specHies that the acoustical analysis report, which he completed,
did not address this Council Report on a 65 CNEL requirement. He pointed out
that Council Policy 542 has to do with land use, not with noise contrd. He stated
the Acoustical Study dkf correctly analyze it with respect to 60 dBA area.
He stated the report referred to high pressure water nozzles as being a noise
problem and they are not. The nozzle Itself makes no noise. The report also
referred to conversations that take place while people are washing their cars. He
stated the car wash booths will be separated by partitions where there won't be
cross talk between areas.
He pointed out car washes come in three basic varieties. There Is the full-service
car wash which is noisy, without proper noise contrd measures. He stated the
self-service car washes come in two varieties. One where the vacuum stations are
individual vacuum cleaners which are noisy and then there is the one which Ron
Johnsen has selected for this property which is a central unft that has the noisy
equipment remote from the station kself. He stated he pointed out in his report
that this type of car wash is inherently quiet, it Is not noisy. He stated car washing
is no more noisy than a person washing their car in their back yard.
He stated the report also stated in Paragraph 22 that adequate mitigation for noise
Impacts upon residents to south has not been provkfed by the applicant. He stated
this is Incorrect. The applicant worked with him in selecting the equipment and the
housing for ft to be certain h would be virtually inaudible because they are in
acoustical enclosures and any air in and out would be passing through silencers
so the noise will remain within the structures.
He stated the report concludes by saying that this will have a negatNe noise Impact
upon the residents. He challenges this, the applicant is going to put in a six foot
high block wall which will act as a noise b~ 71er to traffic noise. This will reduce
noise to the adjacent residential areas not a ;d to k.
Louise Grim, representing the property owner, stated she has reviewed Mr.
Johnson's file in fts entirety. She stated she has visited his car wash In Santa Ana
and found it runs in the best manner you could expect. He does a very good job.
She has reviewed the plans for this project and noticed he is trying to do his best
to please everybody.
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OPPOSITION CONCERNS:
1. Dolly Peterson, 502 South Cinda Street, stated she has INed in this house for
twenty years. Her house is behind the Reliable Auto Care Center and has an
eight foot fence behind her house. She appeared before the Planning
Commission about three and half to tour years ago when Carl's Jr. was asking
for a variance on a drive through window. She stated then, there would be
debris and trash tossed out of the window.
She suomftted a stack of pictures taken for tha last three and half to tow' years
of that alley. She has complained several times to Code Enforcement.
She stated her lot is also a pie shaped parcel. It runs past the Reliable Auto
Center and Into the vacant property. They have numerous trucks parked c+ut In
the alley. They have no privacy oven with an eight foot fence.
She stated there is a steady flow of traffic through the alley. Heavy duty trucks,
moving vans, cement and dump trucks drive through that aliey every day.
She stated people coming from Carl's Jc, park on her alley to eat and then
throw their trash over her fence. She stated her dog goes crazy with the activfty
that goes on in the alley.
She stated the conditions seen on the pictures are a fire and health hazard.
They get rats, mice and homeless people sleeping on the couches that get
tossed on that alley.
She stated the applicant stated there was no car wash around her
neighborhood. She stated within four tenths of a miie east on Lincoln Avenue
there is aself-service car wash and even though ft Is not In the City of Anaheim
ft is still very close to their neighborhood. She stated there is a pakl car wash
on the comer of Glassell and Lincoln and there Is another one on State College.
Do we really need another car wash?
She asks that this car wash not be permitted in her backyard.
2. Betty Miller, 2857 Gerald Circle, stated she has looked over the plans for this
protect. They have suffered many years because of this lot and would love
nothing better than to have something compatible wfth their area.
She asks that this permft be denied. She stated the petftioner said the six foot
fence that they are going to build is going io deter the noise from Lincoln. She
stated her fence is not doing it. She stated she had a six foot fence and ft was
graded up to where now she has a 4.4 fence at her highest point on the alley
side. She stated there is a partial fence behind Reliable Auto Center that Is
suppose to be six feet high and that fence does not deteriorate the noise from
the slamming of the hoods, the slamming of the doors and the racing of the
motors.
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`.y She stated she went to the self-service car wash located on the northeast comer
of West and Lincoln, sat there and listened to the vacuums, aril found that they
do make noise. She stated some people were laughing with their car doors
open and others were drying their cars and had their radios blaring. She stated
this is what wili be happening behind her backyard. She stated, unless they
provide an attendant constantly on duty, they cannot stop the people from
playing their radios.
She stated she will be surprised if all the lights shown an the plans can be fbced
without some sort of a glare going into her house. She stated she cannot enjoy
her home until after nine o'clock, as it is, until Reliable Auto turns off their neon
sign. She stated she cannot go Into her back without keeping her head bowed
because their neon sign is shining right in her face, in her INing room and in her
bedroom.
She stated within a 2.5 mile radius this will be number 5 car wash. She stated
the othar four car washes are sufflclent to take care of all the dirty cars in their
area.
She stated the proposed closing time is ten o'clock and asked ff anyone would
like somebody washing their carat ten o'clock at night while they are enjoying
their back yard, their pool, or sitting in their room wanting to open the drapes?
She stated the petftioner stated they had gone out to the neighborhood and
spoke to the residents and that they seemed to be in favor of the project. She
stated her property takes up about sixty percent of this project and nobody
came to her door, and she is retired, so she is home. Her neighbors that came
to the meeting Haver mentioned anyone coming and talking to them about ft
either.
She asked C~?n•,mission to please consider tint they would like to have some
privacy and enjoyment of their home which they have not had for a long time.
3. Dale Bradford, 2861 Gerald Circle, stated he has INed at his home for more than
thirty years. He has approximately one hundred and ten feet of property
adjoining this vacant lot. He stated there is a foundation for a fence on the
vacant property that was supposed to be installed. He stated this foundation
is ten Inches from his stx foot fence. He stated ff a fence is built there h will
leave aten-Inch wkle, six feet tall trench for refuse, rats and possums. He saki
there will be no way to clean it out.
He stated there are plenty of car washes around his neighborhood.
He went to survey the closest self-serve car wash located in the City of Orange
early Sunday morning and found various types of debris. He stated he does not
wish to have anything like that behind his house.
He indicated the nearest car wash is not two miles away it Is six tenths of a mile
to a car wash similar to the one being proposed today.
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Fry 4. Edward Cook, 507 South Jeanine Street, stated he would Ilke to express his
opposition to the proposed car wash. He stated these types of car washes
become a crime magnet. They provide screen for a narcotic's transaction. He
stated the other car washes of this type tend to draw a large amount of pdice
resources that could be better spent in other places.
He stated the noise problems are not controllable. There wail be a lot of radios
and mechanical noises and In no way will a stx foot fence keep the noise
buffered from his neighborhood.
He has never seen a self-service car wash that enhanced the beauty of any
neighborhood. He believes this car wash will have a negatNe Impact on the
enJoyment of the resklentfal property that is behind this sfte.
5. Mark Kemal, 506 Cinda Street, stated the problem is not the car wash, but the
kind of people h will attract. He stated most homeowners wash their cars at
home and the apartment dwellers are the ones that will be coming to that area.
He stated it will attract people who will wash their cars and hang out. Narcotic
transactions, drinking and possible burglaries will occur.
He stated a business like will attract undesirables that they are trying to keep
away. Mr. Johnsen has done a very good job trying to develop an area that is
conscientious to the homeowners as far as noise and looks, but he will not be
able to contrd the type of people that are going to be coming to that area and
using the car wash.
REBUTTAL:
Mr. Johnsen stated he dkl visR the neighborhood and presented a signed petftion
with signatures in favor of subject petition to the Planning Commission. He stated
a lot of people were not home.
He proposed a full-time attendant on the property. He stated they would Ilke to
raise the wall further than six feet, eight feet to be compatible with Mrs. Peterson's
wall. He stated he could fill the ten Inch trench between the fences.
He stated this area has crime already. He will have limited lights on the area, and
the lights will deter burglars from coming Into that area.
He stated this property will be maintained. He is proposing everything possible in
order to make the levels of the sound compatible to what Is required by the City
of Anaheim.
He stated people who are going to be using this car wash are the neighbors.
He stated the lights are going to be blind folded which will produce no glare.
The vacuums were designed with reference to the noise situation. He stated there
will not be noise above what is tolerable by the City of Anaheim.
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~ He stated he dkl eMensive planning, not only with the selection of piece of
property, but with the Planning Department meeting wtth every head chief of Fire
Department, Maintenance and Traffic. He has taken their criticism, applied k and
implemented tt in the plans for this project.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED
STAFF COMMENTS:
Greg McCafferty, Planning Department, stated, for clarification, the sound
consultant was right, Council Pollcy 542 would not apply because this is not a
proposal for residential construction. However, the General Plan pdicies upon
which that policy was based do apply. He stated noise levels in reskendal areas
should not exceed 45 dBA CNEL for interior living spaces and 55 dBA CNEL for
exterior area.
He stated, although they can engineer the mechanical equipment to reduce the
noise to those acceptable levels, they can't engineer the human component which
are the radios and the conversations.
He stated the water pressure nozzles and the vacuums do create noise.
COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Caldwell -complimented the Jchnsen's far trying to squeeze this car wash onto tha
lot and mitigate any problems with the neighborhood. This does not change the
fact that not only is tt incompatible with the neighborhood, but also wtth the lot.
~~ Commissioner Henninger -something that came clear wtth the photographs
submitted Is that a ten foot landscaped setback is needed between the commercial
and the residential zone. He has never voted for a waiver of that requirement and
does not plan to do that today. This use could be compatible ff this setback was
provided.
Commissioner Messe agreed the enure ten foot setback along the south property
line could make this use compatible with the area. He stated the pictures gNen in
evidence were something that should be taken to Cade Enforcement immediately.
Feels that the Johnson's love tried their best to design a facility, but tt would be
a great Incumbrance on the cttizens to the south. He noticed none of the people
on the south property Zino signed the petition that was submttted by the petttioner.
Commissioner Peraza -felt there should be some type of restriction on the trucks
that park on the alley. Commended the Johnson's for doing their best but thinks
the property is too small for this type of use.
Commissioner Boydstun -asked if that alley is private or dedicated so that those
trucks could not drive through there.
Melanie Adams -responded that is a private property tt is not a Ctty alley.
Commissioner Henninger stated tt looks like the function of that alley is storage of
trucks.
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Commissioner Taft stated this use does not fit in th(s s(ze parcel. He stated the ten
foot setback requirement is Important and he is not willing to waive k.
Commissioner Henninger stated the distance behind the other buildings is
approximatelytwenty-six feet. They have some doors and there only appears to
be one dumpster back there. They could fit ten feet of landscaping and still have
a one way drive aisle adjacent to the building to provkte places to drop things off.
He stated ff they could find some way to do that and then have the ten foot
landscape setback next to the new facility, he could be persuaded.
Mr. Johnsen asked for clarification of what they are proposing.
Commissioner Henninger stated, typically, when they have a commercial use
abutting a residential use they require a six foot wall measured from the highest
grade and a ten foot wkle fully landscaped setback. He stated they are suggesting
for the applicarn io provkle a wall measuring six feet to its highest grade and also
that ten feet of fully landscaped not only behind the car wash but behind the
existing commercial buildings be provided. He asked ff this would be an
acceptable compromise to the petitioner.
Mr. Johnsen answered yes, that would be acceptable and as red ff tt would be the
same type of landscape environment they are proposing for the front of the
property.
Commissloner Henninger answered a ten foot fully landscaped setback behind the
vacant lot and also the other buildings, all the way to the street.
Mr. Johnsen stated this parcel ends at the Carl's Jr. and Commissioner Henninger
agreed that it would be landscaped to the parcel Tine.
Commissioner Messe asked ff he was going to plant mature trees and Mr. Johnsen
answered they were looking at either fifteen or twenty-five gallon boxes.
Commissioner Henninger stated the Important thing is to get the setback there so
that there is curb, and in that way people will be discouraged to walk up against
them. He stated the wall would have to be brought up to standard which would
be six foot minimum from the highest grade.
Mr. Johnsen stated there is an existing eight foot wall and would like to know ff
they Just wanted him to continue it all the way down or do they want an additional
new wall that is six feet.
Commissloner Henninger stated those old walls are probably not structurally sound
enough to heighten them, so it will probably require a new wall.
Mr. Johnsen pro{,osed to build an eight foot wall.
Commissioner Messe stated iF he built an eight foot wall h would be ten foot wall
on the resident's side.
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,r~ Commissioner Henninger felt a s[K foot wall from the highest grade would be an
S eight toot wall on the rasklents side and that would do the job and Mr. Johnsen
agreed.
Commissioner Messe asked why they chose those cypress trees because they do
not have very large crowns to them. He asked H k wouldn't be better to select a
tree with a larger Brown?
Mr. Johnsen stated they could put in what fs desirable to the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Henninger preferred to see a crown tree Ilke the one proposed,
spaced on the center so that when they mature they will have a wind row affect
along there.
Commissioner Messe asked H the applicant would be willing to ask for a
continuance so that he could come back with landscapa and wall plans and see
how that will fit Into the neighborhood and Mr. Jo!msen agreed to do that
immediately.
Jonathan Borrego, Planning Department, suggested a fourweek continuance tothe
April 5, 1993 Planning Commission meeting.
Jonathan Borrego suggested that the Acoustical Engineer get together with Greg
McCafferty and address some the additional noise analysis concerns that were
brought up at the meeting.
' Commissioner Messe stated he heard a stipulation by the applicant that this
unattended business would become a fully attendant business and asked N he had
heard that correctly, that there would be someone on duty there thirteen hours a
day and the petitioner agreed to h.
Commissioner Caldwell asked if this new landscape plan will include the required
three feet of landscaping along Lincoln Avenue.
Jonathan Borrego stated they are required to provide a three foot planter along the
entire length of the property adJacent to Lincoln Avenue and the current plans do
not reflect that.
Mr. Johnsen stated he will take the landscape area Into conskleratlon and will meet
with his architect and have him redesign it with a ten toot rear setback wfth
landscape and a three foot planter on front.
ACTION: Continued to the April 5, 1993 Planning Commission meeting.
VOTE: 6-0 (Commissioner Mayer absent)
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3a. CEOA NEGATIVE DECLARATION I Approved
3b. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO.3590 Granted
OWNER: TOKIKO NAKAMURA, 8430 Pebble Beach Court, Buena Park,
CA 90621
AGENT: ELLIOTT WAINER, 13234 East Palm Place, Cerritos, CA 90701
LOCATION: 2625 West Lincoln Avenue. Property is approximately .85
acres located on the north side of Lincoln Avenue and
approximately 395 feet west of the centerline of Magnolia
Avenue.
To permit a pawn shop.
CONDITIONAL U5E PERMIT RESOLUTION N0. PC93-28
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FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO BE
CONSIDERED OFFICIAL MINUTES.
PETITIONER'S COMMENTS:
_ Elliot Wainer, 13234 East Palm Place, Cerritos, stated his proposal Is to inftiate a
pawn shop at 2625 E. Uncoln Bivd. He read the staff report and agrees wRh all the
conditions.
IN FAVOR: 2
COMMENTS:
1. Steve Rendez, property manager for Tokiko Nakamura, stated prior to the
remodeling of this property, ff Commission would have seen this property, they
would have condemned h. The remodeling cost was an excess of $270,000.
Prior to the remodeling they had two tenants. One was a bar and the other one
was a massage parlor. They gave him nothing but headaches. He is
economically concerned right now and in need of renting the spaces. The
mortgage rates aro high and he has to get tenants. He cannot see anything
derogatory about a pawn shop. It has more security than any other tenant.
There are other pawn shops in the area, but there are liquor stores all over also.
He cannot see anything negatNe about this business. If Mr. Walner becomes
a tenant he will still have three other vacancies that need to be filled up very
quicMy.
2. Larry Walter stated pawn shops are like retell stores, light and bright inside and
they look nice. He stated they don't attract crime.
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IN OPPOSITION: 2
OPPOSITION CONCERNS:
1. Joseph LaRoche, PreskJent of the Board of the Carbon Creek Homeowners
Association, 199 N. Magnolia Avenue, stated they are opposed to a pawn shop
opening on that property. As the property manager indicated, that property
should have been condemned if you would have seen h some time ago, k was
deplorable. The Improvements greatly improved •he property, but now to see
a pawn shop go in there does not make sense. You have taken what should
have been a condemned place of property, made h look decent, Improved the
area and now by putting a pawn shop, it is 11ke going back in time.
Ha stated in 1991 they appeared before the Planning Commission to oppose a
44-unit triple deck apartment complex on that vacant field right behind where
that pawn shop is being proposed. It was rezoned to RM~000 to allow fHteen
condominium unfts to be built there. When the unfts get built it will be very easy
for everybody to Jump the wall and go to pawn shop.
He stated within a quarter of a mile there !s a pawn shop and wfthin four miles
there are four pawn shops. He does not think they need another pawn shop in
that area.
They don't want the extra crime In that area, they like the area as k is right now,
and so, they are opposed to the pawn shop.
2. Dennis Wynn, 205-B N. Magnolia, stated if the development proposal was for
retail sales and jewelry repair it would be great. He has been inva' led with
pawn shops before. The Police Department took him to a pawn shop to klentiry
things that were stolen from him and they were there. He stated he is not
saying pawn shops are bad but a second consideration should be given to this.
This pawn shop will be fifteen hundred feet from the nearest pawn shop and he
thinks one pawn shop in the area is plenty.
REBUTTAL:
Elliot Wainer stated ha has been in the pawn shop business for over fifteen years.
He has worked in three different stores in the LA. City district. He has a goad
record with the LA Police Department. No additional crime will be coming Into the
area. He has taken measures to reassure everyone that he Is doing whatever is
necessary to prevent it. He will put In security buzzer gates and surveillance
cameras. He works very close with the City of LA now, in recovering stoen goods
that are on the streets. He stated he recently experienced the LA. riots and that
is one reason why he has chosen to move out of the LA. area and open up his
own store.
He has been looking at this area between Lincoln and Magndla for the last ten
years. He works out and trains in physical athlet(cs at the Holiday Health Spa
located on the comer of Broadway and Magnolia. This area is in need of anothor
pawn shop. He stated the one located to the east is not capablo of handling all the
needs of the area. There are many people that are in the low income breckets And
there should be more availability on money to be lent to them in neeYl.
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~., As far as free enterprise, he sees no problem of having two pawn shops down the
street from each other. That gives the customer a better choice of who he wants
to do business wfth and at the present time in LA. he has three pawn shops all
within one hundred yards. He stated competition is good.
He chose this area for the need of the people.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED
STAFF COMMENTS:
Detective Jackson stated there are no specffic regulations that the Pdice
Department Imposes, everything is State mandated. He stated they Just fellow laws
that are pre-mandated by the State that have to do wfth reporting items that pawn
shops take in on a dally basis to the Police Department. This is handled through
the mail and flied.
Commissioner Messe asked ff they look at the reported items and DetectNe
Jackson answered they don't have the people. They file them.
Commissioner Messe asked what is the experience wfth the existing pawn shop in
Anaheim and Detective Jackson answered the pawn shop in Anaheim has been
very cooperative.
Commissioner Messe asked ff they take in and sell guns and Detective Jackson
answered yes.
Commissioner Messe asked ff this pawn shop will also take in and sell guns and
the applicant answered yes.
Commissioner Henninger asked how the other pawn shops around are doing.
Detective Jackson answered he has not heard of any major problems. He has
been in charge of the pawn shop detail for two months and he has had at least a
half a dozen dealings wfth the pawn shops in the general area in Buena Park,
Garden Grove and South County recovering stolen property that has been pawned
in the shops.
Detective Jackson stated there are pros and cons to this type of business. The
pro being that ff ft was not pawned at the pawn shop ft would have never been
recovered and the con being that ff there was no market to give money on ft then
maybe it would not be stolen to begin with.
Commissioner Messe asked how much of the stolen property ends up ir, pawn
shops and DetectNe Jackson answered a very small percentage.
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t~.1 COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Commissioner Messe stated the staff report indicates that the hours of operation
would be Monday through Frklay 9 a.m. to 7 p.m and asked the petftioner ff he
agreed with that.
Mr. Wainer stated he must make a correction, he stated the hours and days will be
Monday through Frklay from 9 a.m. to 7 p.m., it will also be opened on Saturday
from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. and closed on Sunday.
Commissionsr Caldwell stated he grew up in North Long Beach and spent some
time in Compton and ft has been his experience that most businesses that cater to
people that are less affluent than others, who are walking the line economically, are
usually taken advantage of. He stated he would not be surprised if the Interest
rates are higher. He is also very much opposed to bringing any more guns and
allow another avenue for guns to be sold in our neighborhood. As long as guns
are sold there he will be opposed to this use.
Mr. Wainer stated he has an outstanding record wfth the Department of Justice in
the fifteen years that he has been in the business. He stated this type of business
is not Just for the poor man, ft is also for the lower middle class that cannot fled an
extra Income. He stated when someone needs to make their monthly payment on
something, they can go to a pawn broker, turn in same collateral maybe a diamond
ring for some cash, so ft operates the same as a bank.
Commissioner Messe asked ft the rates and the length of time the goods stay In tho
shop are dictated by the State and Mr. Wainer answered yes.
Commissioner Boydstun asked fF he had to register the guns like a sporting good
and Mr. Wainer agreed.
Mr. Wainer stated he plans to sell strictly hand guns.
Commissioner Messe asked fl he will be selling new guns and Mr. Wainer answered
that he will be selling new and used guns.
Commissioner Henninger stated the property owner has done a very good )ob in
rehabllftating this piece of property. He stated they new they had a problem and
the+! have solved ft. He Imagines that it would be in their best interest, having
Invested all that money, to make sure they police this tenant. The property owner
has re~'ently got rid of some tenants that were a problem on that parcel.
Mr. Wainer stated the property owner knows the type of business he conducts.
Commissioner Henninger stated the property owner has shown an Interest to do
remedial work to that property and he does not want to discourage him from doing
that by not allowing him to fill that space.
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ACT1ON: Approved Negative Declaration
Granted CondRional Use Permit No. 3590
Amended Condition No. 1 to read as follows:
1. That the hours of operation shall be limited to the following:
Monday through Friday: 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.
Saturday: 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
Sunday: Closed
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VOTE: 5-1 (Commissloner Caldwell voted No - Commissioner Mayer absent) '
Commissioner Henninger stated we need to direct staff to begin processing revise zoning on
this property from the CG to the CL Zone. Iii
Commissloner Messe stated we can do that at the April 5, 1993 meeting.
MOTION: Commissloner l3oydstun offered a Motion, seconded by Commissioner Peraza and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Mayer absent), that the Anaheim City Planning
Commission does hereby direct staff to Initiate reclassfffcation proceedings forthis
property located at 2625 West Lincoln Avenue to reclassify subject parcel ftam the
existing CG Zone designation to the CL Zone.
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4a. CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION Continued to
4b WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT April 5, 1993
4c. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0.3591
OWNER: WEST ANAHEIM COMMUNITY HOSPITAL, ET AL, 3033 West
Orange Avenue, Anaheim, CA 92804
LOCATION: 3033 West Orange Avenue (Humana Hosoftal. West
An h im .Property is approximately 11.2 acres located on
the northwest comer of Orange Avenue and Beach Boulevard.
To permit a mobile medicaV (MRI) trailer with waiver of minimum number of
parking spaces.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION NO.
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO BE
CONSIDERED OFFICIAL MINUTES.
PETITIONER'S COMMENTS:
David Culberson, Executive Dire^tor of West Anaheim Medical Center, stated the
staff report recommends dental of their conditlonal use permit. He stated a
conditlonal use permit was granted to them back in March 1991, at which time the
hospital expanded its parking capacity to their present configuration. He stated the
project before Planning Commission today is an MRI unit that parks on their facility.
Although this protect eliminates six parking spaces, they still meet the parking
needs of the hospital. They have not done any construction to the facility since
March of 1991. This project will only eliminate six parking spaces and they feel
there are plenty of parking spaces available at the hospital for patients, visitors,
physicians and employees. A parking study presented to the Planning Department
showed that the maximum that the hospital is operating at is fifty two percent of
capacity. The loss of six additional parking spaces will not affect the parking
requirements.
He stated this project is a temporary project. They propose to implement a mobile
MRI unit on a full time basis to determine the Head for a full time permanent
structure. MRI units are very expensive pieces of equipment The equipment alone
runs anywhere between $500,000 to $2,000,000 excluding all building costs. They
have a temporary approach where they will determine feasibility and after one year
of the mobile truck use they hope to be able to find they have adequate volume
and business to permit the construction of a permanent facility.
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f~ He stated the Planning Department recommends relocation of the truck off of
Orange Avenue to an area elsewhere on hospital property. Although, they do have
adequate parking spaces throughout the hospital, the movement of the mobile
truck will cost at least $25,000 to $50,000. They feel for such a short term
feasibility project, the additional $25,000 to $50,000 is an undo burden. The
relocation will also cause the disruption of the easy access by the radidogist in the
emergency personnel, when he is needed In the mobile truck. He stated at the
present time the truck is adjacent to the emergency room and the radidogy
department.
He stated they have not evaluated the installation of any structures to screen the
truck from Orange Avenue because they are looking at this as a short term protect.
This project is temporary and they hope to proceed with implementat(on of a full
time permanent MRI Center ff the volume is sufflclent to support the unk.
OPPOSITION: None
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED
COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Commissloner Boydstun asked if the MRI unit could be moved to the back east
comer of the buliding? She stated there is a ramp and a door back there. She
thinks it is teMble to have an MRI unit blocking the driveway on Orange between
the Emergency Room. Someone coming in, not knowing where they are going, will
go in there, and will have to back out because they will not be able to get through
to emergency.
Mr. Culberson stated they can relocate the mobile truck to a site which would be
in the northwest side or the north side of the hospital. The northeast side would
be very difficult because there is very limited access. In the back of the hospRal
there Is a small alley that separates them from the convalescent hospital on Beach
Blvd. They could go direc0y north or northwest from the hospkal.
Commissloner Messe stated they have a door back there with a ramp so that the
patients can come down h and they also have a physician's parking lot. He
suggested to take eight or nine parking spaces out of there and put that truck right
in there, in the shade.
Mr. Culberson stated that would be right outside of the ICU, which Is typically not
an area where they have out patients. That would be the problem putting h there
in addition to the $25,000 to $50,000 cost.
Commissioner Boydstun stated the MRI unit should be moved anywhere on the
north side of that buliding so that it is away from the street and away from that
driveway.
Mr. Culberson stated there are people who enter through the west skle of the
hospital and then turn right into the area of concern.
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Commissloner Boydstun stated she did that herself. She thinks it is very confusing.
She knew what she was looking for, so she did not panic, but someone wfth an
emergency will.
Commissioner Henninger stated one of our members noted, on one of their sfte
visfts, that there were a number of vehicles stacked up in front of the emergency
room where they were getting blocked In because they dkf not have that through
access way.
Commissioner Messe stated there was a police car, an ambulance and a private
vehicle.
Mr. Cuiberson stated at times there Is even fire trucks that pull Into the area. They
have not heard of any complaints from them.
Commissloner Messe stated an emergency room Is set up to handle mass
emergencies where a neighborhood could be hft and Impacted by a fire. He
believes this is asking for a lot of trouble and he is not willing to go for ft.
Commissioner Henninger asked ff it is absolutely necessary to have that access
blocked in that location wfth that MRI unit?
Mr. Culberson stated at the present time, it i~, because of magnetic requirements.
Each MRI unit puts off a magnetic field and that field cannot be Impeded by people
with pace makers or vehicles.
Commissioner Henninger asked how close is this unft from the sidewalk?
Mr. Culberson answered the field is small enough so that ft Is not Impinging upon
the sidewalk. They have a fence around the area to keep pedestrians and cars o~4.
That does not pose a problem, but to allow access would be Impossible.
Commissioner Peraza stated three of the six parking spaces that are being blocked
by the MRI unft are for handicapped clients and asked ff those have been provkied
somewhere else.
Mr. Culberson stated they have created additional handicapped parking out in front
of the main entrance and in front of the emergency room.
Commissioner Taft asked ff a permanent facility is planned in approximately a year.
Mr. Culberson stated they hope to have the feasibility study done by December of
this year. He anticipates that a year after that they could have a permanent site.
Commissloner Messe asked after the feasibility study, where are you planning to
put the MRI unft?
Mr. Culberson answered they are planning to put k right where it is right now and
build out the structure to match the brick wall. It is close to the emergency
department and more important ft Is also closer to the radidogy department.
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Commissioner Messe thought the south portion of the receNing area is a goad
place for the MRI unit.
Mr. Culberson stated that area already has power lined Into h because they used
to have a CAT Scan there in the early eighties. He stated one thing that Is unique
about an MRI unft is that ft generates a magnetic field which cannot be Impeded
upon by any large metal objects. That will be a dHflcult location for that to not
occur because trucks back in and out to the loading dock.
Commissioner Henninger thought that would look unsightly out front, but k would
be okay on a temporary basis. The circulation problem troubles him and k has to
be solved. A dead end skuation into the emergency room is no! goad planning.
If we had a major emergency there would be a problem there.
Commissioner Messe asked the applicant if he would like to spend some time in
looking for another area for this MRI unit or would he Ilke for Commission to vote
on ft today.
Mr. Culberson stated he would be happy to look at other ekes on their facility.
Commissioner Henninger stated there might be some other way of solving the
circulation problem.
ACTION: Continued to the April 5, 1993 Planning Commission meeting.
VOTE: 6-0 (Commissioner Mayer Absent)
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5. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
A. REQUEST FOR PLANNING COMMISSION INTERPRETATION OF Determined
OUTDOOR STORAGE IN THE CG ZONE. that outdoor
storage is not
RESOLUTION N0. PC93-29 permitted in
the CG Zone
Greg Hastings, Planning Department, stated this is a request for the Planning Commission to
determine ff outdoor storage of restaurant equipment, in particular, is permitted in the CG
Zone.
The Code Sections cited in Paragraph 10 of the March 8, 1993 staff report appear obvious
to staff that outdoor storage Is prohibited in the CG Zone.
Commisslon may wish to note Code Section 18.45.025.070 which reads "All uses except
normal service station operations and those uses specifically excepted hereinafter shall be
conducted wholly within a building" and there is no exception hereinafter for the outdoor
storage of restaurant equipment.
He stated, by practice, the Planning Department has looked at the list of permitted and
conditional uses as being supplement to a service station and they are typical uses that are
outdoor only, such as billboards, golf courses, mobila home parks and dr(ve-in theaters that
would be permitted as outdoor uses. He stated, other than that, staff feels that this type of
use is not permitted, however, the Planning Commission has the authority in the Zoning Code
to make that determination. The determination taken will be sent to Council on their consent
calendar.
Commissioner Henninger clarified that this is a general question that relates to how
Commission reads the Code. It relates, in general, to every Commercial General parcel in the
City.
Commissioner Messe stated the letter they received from the law offices Indicates that there
seems to be a lack of uniform enforcement with regards to outside storage and wanted to
know if that Is the case.
Mr. Hastings stated the applicant has cited some other locations in the City that have grown
in the same way and evolved into a similar situation. The Code Enforcement Division Is
looking at those individually. Some of those may have been grandfathered.
Commissioner Henninger stated ff there are other places that are storing outside, it is a Coda
Enforcement problem that will be looked Into.
Commissioner Boydstun asked ff some of those other uses might be grandfathered in and Mr.
Hastings agreed and added some are also in the Industrial Zone.
Commissioner Boydstun asked how come this one is not grandfalhered in since it has been
there since 1925?
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~ Mr. Hastings stated there has never been authorization nor does the Planning Department
y have any records that there was ever an outdoor storage yard permitted.
Commissioner goydstun asked about the court case where they settled and it had the
outdoor storage when it said that they were in compliance after the court case.
Roger Bennion, Code Enforcement, stated, in regards to the compliance, that took place In
January of 1988. They have a photograph in the file that shows that all the lots adjacent to
the property in question were in compliance and there was no outside storage at that time.
ADJOURNMENT: MEETING ADJOURNED AT 3:30 P.M.