Minutes-PC 1994/08/08
ACTION AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
MONDAY, AUGUST 8, 1994
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11:00 A.M. - PRELIMINARY PLAN REVIEW
(NO PUBLIC TESTIMONY ACCEPT°_D)
1:30 P.M. - PUBLIC HEARINGS BEGIN (PUBLIC TESTIMONY)
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: BOYDSTUN, CALDWELL, HENNINGER, MAYER, PERA7A, TAIT
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: MESSE
PROCEDURE TO EXPEDITE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. The proponents in applications which are not contested w(II have five minutes to present iheir
ovidence. Additional time will be granted u;~on request if, in the opinion of the Commission,
such additional time will produce evidence important to the Commission's consideration.
2. In contested app~ications, the proponents and opponent will each be given ten minutes to
present their case unless additional time is requested and the complexity of the matter warrants.
The Commi~aion's considerations are not determined by the length of time a participant speaks,
but rather by what is said.
3. Staff Reports are part of the evidence deemed received by the Commission in each ~~earing.
Copies are available to the public prior to the meeting.
4. The Commission will w(thhold questions until the public hearing is closed.
5. The Commission reserves the right to deviate from the foregoing if, in Its opinion, the
ends of fairness to all concerned will be served.
6. Ail documents presented to the Pl~.nning Commission for review in connection with
any hearing, including photographs or other acceptable visual representations or
non-documentary evidence, shall be retained by the Commission for the ~ubiic
recorc! and shall 6e available for public inspections.
7. At the end of the scheduled hearings, members of the public will be allowed ;o speak
on Items of interest which are within the jurisdiction of the Planning Commission,
and/or agenda items. Each speaker wiil be allotted a maximum of five (5) minutes to
speak.
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ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN AND CHAIRMAN PRO-TEMPORE
Commissioner Henninger nominated Commissioner Boydstun for the
position of Chairwomen and seconded by Commissioner Taft
(Commissioner Messe absent). Commissioner Henninger moved that
the nominations be closed. Commissioner Boydstun was
~~nanimously selected as Chairvvoman.
Commissioner Mayer nominated Commissioner Tait for Chairman Pro
Tempore and seconded by Commissioner Caldwell (Commissioner
Messe absent). Commissioner Henninger moved that the
nominations be closed. Commissloner Taft was unanimously selected
as Chairman Pro Tempore.
Elected Phyllis
Boydstun as
Chairwoman and
Tom Tait as vitairman
Pro-Tempore
1a. CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION Continued to
1b. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT August 22, 1994
1c. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 3669
OWNER: MANUEL GARCIA and RUDY A. BALDERRAMA, 1200 S.
Highland Ave., #106, Fullerton, CA 92632
LOCATION: 606 East Orangewood Avenue. Property is
approximately 0.34 acre located on the south side of
Orangewood Avenue and approximately 156 `,eet west of
the centedine of Spinnaker Street and further described as
606 E. Orangewood Avenue.
To permit a church with waiver of minimum setback for Institutional
uses adjacent to residential zone boundaries and maximum structural
height adjacent to residential zones.
Continued from the April 4, May 2, June 27, and August 8, 1994,
Planning Commission meetings.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION N0.
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION.
OPPOSITIODI: None
ACTION: Commissioner Henni^ger orfered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Caldwell and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissloner Messe absent) that consideration of the aforementioned i
matter be continued to the regularly-scheduled meeting of August 22, 1994 in order to submit
rev(sed plans and that the Petit(oner be advised that no further continuance will be considered. ~
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2a. CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION Continued to
2b. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT September 7, 1994
2c. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 3685
OWNER: EUCLID SHOPPING CENTER, 2293 W. Ball Road,
Anaheim, CA
92804
AGENT: FANCHER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, 1342 Bell Avenue,
Ste 3-k, Tustin, CA 92680
LOCATION: 1600 West Katella Avenue. Property is approximately
18.6 acres located at the southeast comer of Katella
Avenue and Euclid Street.
To permit a 1,989 square foot drive through restaurant within an
existing commercial retail center with waiver of minimum number of
parking spaces and minimum landscape setback adjacent to a
residential zone boundary.
Continued from the June 1, June 27, and August 8, 1994, Planning
Commission meetings.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION N0.
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FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION.
OPPOSITION: None
ACTION: Commissioner Henningar offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Caldwell and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent) that consideration of the aforementioned
matter be continued to the regularly-scheduled meeting of September 7, 1994 (Wednesday) in
order for the applicant to have additional time to submit exhibits.
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3a. CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION I Continued to
3b. RECLASSIFICATION N0.93-9411 September 7, 1994
3c. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 3687 (Wednesday)
OWNER: WILLIAM TAORMINA, P.O. BOX 309, Anaheim, CA 92815
AGENT: DAVID STOLL, 327 N. Anaheim Blvd., Anaheim, CA 92805
LOCATION: 423 North Anaheim Boulevarcl. Property is
approximately 1.08 acres located on the southwest
comer of Anaheim Boulevard and Sycamore Street.
Reclassification from the CG and PD-C Zones to the CL Zone. To
permit a bicycle racing track wfth accessory uses, including a recall
area, concession stand, and picnic area.
Continued from June 13, and July 11, 1994 Planning Commission
meetings.
RECLASSIFICATION RESOLUTION NO.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION N0.
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION.
IN FAVOR: 1 person spoke in favor and submitted a petition with 56 signatures in favor of
subject proposal
OPPOSITION: 2 people spoke in opposftion/correspor,Jence was received
Commissioner Boydstun declared a conflict of interest as defined by Anaheim City Planning
Commission Resolution No. PC7fi-157 adopting a Conflict of Interest Code for the Planning
Commission and Government Code Section 3625, et seq., in that Commissioner Boydstun has
property on the market in the area that could be affected and pursuant to the provisions of the
above Codes, declared to the Chairman that she was withdrawing from the hearing in
connection with ReclassKicatlon No. 93-94-11 and Condftional Use Permft No. 3667, and would
not take pert in efther the d-scusslon or the voting thereon and had not discussed this matter
with any member of the Planning Commission, Thereupon Commissioner Boydstun left the
Council Chamber.
PETITIONER:
Dave Stoll, 327 N. Anaheim Blvd., Anaheim, CA 92805. He submitted a copy of his speech
to the Planning Commission. He was here to clarify the questions that were brought up by
both the staff and the audience at tha last two meetings. He stated on July 11th they heard II
from Esther Vi'!3k as she presented her views on the proposed bike racing facility in
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He explained Ms. Viljak's family owns the three residential rental properties near their site.
She has expressed a series of legitimate concerns that if not handled properly could affect
the value of her property and the piece and quiet of her tenants.
He asked the Planning-Commission to please not approve his proposal if they thought
there was any chance whatsoever, however remote, however slight, that his BMX facility will
be a negative impact on their neighborhood. He explained he has decided to be an asset
to the neighborhood and to solve the numerous problems that exist today.
He added, again if they had any doubt that this will be the case, please do not vote in favor
of his proposal.
He stated the VllJak's agree that the BMX is a great concept, however, they would like it to
be in an industrial park. He explained the youth he wants to reach do not live in Industrial
parks, but they live hero within the Ciry. He further stated he did not believe that children
should play in an industrial park and that is why the Ciry has Commercial Zoning.
He explained he cannot help it if Ms. Vlljak's home is adjacent to their commercial property.
He stated he has no control over this.
He stated in Chandler, AZ and Orange, CA, hundreds of homeowners have chosen to 11ve
adjacent to BMX facilities. The Vlljak's own their property adjacent to their proposed
location. He added, again he has no control over the zoning in Anaheim. He stated his
property is commercial and their property is residential. He stated he will be sensitive to
their rights and he only asks that they are sensitive to his needs as a commercial
businessman in Anaheim.
He stated Ms. Viljak states that she opposes their facility for the following reasons:
operating hours; noise, BMX competkion; capacity; parking and proximity to residential
homes.
Operating hours. He explained their facility is a commercial business. It will operate
per the allowable operating hours of commercially zoned property. He further
explained there are many commercial uses that they could Install at this site-many
of which would operate 24 hours per day. He stated their bicycle racing facility will
operate only 1P hours a day.
Noise. He stated as per the results of their independent noise study that they
submitted last week, they have proven without a doubt that kids on bikes, on dirt do
not make noise. He stated they will not exceed the noise standards applicable to
the commercial zoning in Anaheim. He stated if they exceed any noise standards,
or if they exceed any noise complaints, they will simply shut the track down until the
problem is solved. In addition, they will not have overhead speakers; public address
horns; they will not play loud music and there will be no more noise coming from
their facility then what comes from Pearson Park or a Little League game. He stated ;~::_
in summary, if the sound of children's laughter is annoying to the neighborhood,
then things must be different then when he was a kid. I
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3. Capacity. He explained they will not exceed tho permitted capacity. He stated
~ there are limits to everything and they will follow the limits that will be placed upon
them by the City of Anaheim whatever that might bs.
4. -Parking. 'He stated they will not exceed the parking Iirnitations with their adjacent
parking lot plus the parking at other properties in the area that they have permission
to use. He explained there will be more than enough parking available. He stated if
they recall, they conducted a full parking study by Mr. Paul Singer to verHy this. He
emphasized parking will not be a problem, but if it turns (nto one they will shut down
the facility until a solution can be found.
5. Proximity to residential homes. He stated he has already addressed the fact that
their commercially zoned property has just happens to adjoin residential property.
He stated what is most important to him Is a letter he received from Mr. Tucker
which is also included in the packet.
He explained Mr. Tucker, who actually lives adjacent to their sits, support their concept and
are willing to work with them as a team to Improve the neighborhood.
6. BMX competition guidelines. He stated the Viljak's claim that they are tied to the
ABA's guidelines, this simply is not true. As their letter from the President of the
American Bicycle Association, President Clayton John will state, Anaheim BMX is the
track of the future for the entire sport and will set a new standard for the American
Bicycle Association members across the United States.
He stated as to Ms. Viljak's statement that this could be a gang hideout, this could be no
more further from the truth. He stated frankly, this offends him personally because as a
business owner, his entire business plan is focused on gang prevention. He added
allowing the use of their area gives them something productive to do with their time-no
gang members will set foot on his property.
He stated Ms. VilJak claims that the amount of money they will be charging their riders is
contrary to the rules and guidelines established by the BMX or ABA. He added again this
is not true. As he stated at the last meeting, their track will follow the exact pricing
guidelines of the American Bicycle Association.
He explained, however, for those children who cannot afford to purchase their own bicycle,
they will provide bikes far rent for .25 cents per hour. He stated this is their right and
privilege as business owners. He added if that is how he wants to spend his money, he will
do so.
He stated please remember all they are trying to do is provide the youth wfth a place to
play. He asked is there something wrong with that? He hoped not.
In closing, he restated his goals and purpose for develo~iing this facility. He wants to
provide a place for children to have fun just like Lirile League, soccer, Disneyland Goais,
Ice rink or the Boys and Gids Club. He explained his focus is on youth and if the
neighborhood is dissatisfied with his business once it is in operation, he will basically shut it
down. He stated he wants to be an asset to the City and this neighborhood. He asked,
please allow him the chance to try.
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IN FAVOR:
~ Sandra Perez, 412 N. Claudine, Apartment 5, Anaheim CA. He stated she took it upon
herself to take a petftion and go around her neighborhood and taik to the neighbors who
were in favor of having the BMX track. He stated he obtained 56 signatures. She
submitted the signatures to the Commission.
She stated she asked them about the children having a place to go. She explained the
situation and she told them she was coming to a meeting today and she wanted to get
whoever was in favor in the neighborhood. She added everyone seems to be in favor of it
and there seems to be no problem.
OPPOSITION:
Esther VilJak, 1296 Lighthouse Lane, Anaheim, CA 92801. She stated they own the
properties at 122 W. Sycamore which Mr. Stoll eluded to as well as some properties on
Zeyn Street and Lemon Street. She stated she did not want to rehash everything that has
happened in the last 2 months because she thought that was very well documented.
She stated the applicant submitted a noise study to the City and she believed it was
Incomplete. She stated last month the applicant completed a video with no criteria or
decibel ratings. She stated this month it is a study that has been completed by an audio
visual specialist and not an acoustical engineer as requested by staff.
She stated they are left with the conclusion that the applicant knows that the noise study is
not within the guidelines, therefore, the applicant is choosing to ignore the request to
complete a formalized study.
She stated the applicant's commitment to following directions is questionable. They talk of
concerns for the community, however, she thought their actions speak differently. She
stated it appears that the applicant wishes to continue taking shortcuts thereby wasting all
of their time.
She stated Mr. Chang, one of the owners of apartments on Lemon Street, contracted the
services of Gordon Bracken & Associates who are acoustical and energy engineers. They
completed a noise Impact study utilizing 122 W. Sycamore, the area adjacent to his
apartments on Lemon Street to measure existing noise. She stated they also visited the
BMX facility (n Orange and basic findings are that the BMX would far exceed the
acceptable level of the noise, i.e., 65 dba's called out by the Municipal Code.
She stated in the study they did not measure parking lot noise or people nolse, but they
did measure the level of the starting gate; the starting loud speaker and the paging loud
speaker. She stated allowing for design differences the Orange BMX versus the Anaheim
BMX the level of noise, when all factored, will exceed Coda.
She explained for example, the starting loud speaker noise level was 80 to 86 dba's at 40
feet; the paging loud speaker was 69 to 72 dba at 100 feet; the starting plate drop which
drops every 30 seconds was 71 to 73 dba's at 40 feet. She emphasized that these
measurements were taken at 40 to 100 feet. She stated the closest residential area to the
BMX in Anaheim is 10 feet, so she would have to assume that the decibel reading would I
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She stated the applicant also wishes to place a P.A. system 57 feet' from the west
.1 residential property line. She explained the Anaheim Municipal Code prohibits the
operation of amplified equipment for commercial use within 200 feet of a residerttai zt,ne.
She stated with the above levels of noise, the P.A. system should not be allowed unless it is
over the 200 feet from the residential area.
She stated other concerns they continue to have are the placement of the 20-foot tower so
close to the property Ilne; hours of operation, i.e., 12 hours a day seven days a week. She
added 84 hours of operation with these noise levels are totally inconceivable.
She referenced attendance restrictions and stated she thought attendance levels should be
defined and the applicant needs to be held to it. She questioned the height of the walls
between the property line and where the applicant wishes to build.
She stated the level of noise is the overriding concern to recommend that this proposal not
be accepted.
She explained the exterior noise will exceed 65 dba's and it can be, therefore, assumed
that the interior noise will also exceed 45 dba's. She stated the effect of this facility on
interior noise needs to be measured as ft does have an affect on the quality of Iffe of the
tenants. She stated when you factor existing noise, BMX noise and the noise from parking,
all of those levels will probably far exceed the 60 or 65 dba that is required and based on
that she asks they turn this down.
She stated she would like to address a couple of the Issues that Mr. Stoll brought up. She
clarified that ner concern has not been that it is going to be a gang hideout. She
questioned ~•~hat the hours of operation were, and the type of Individual that would visit this
type of a focally when it is open 12 hours a day, seven days a week.
She stated Mr. Stoll indicated that the residents close to this site were for the proposal.
She stated that is all fine and well. She did not think that anyone has shared with them the
noise Ievei of Impact so she would like to think ff that was reviewed with the residents,
which she planned on doing, they might have a dHferent opinion of this project.
She had a summary of what she just stated and in addition her father wrote a letter
summarizing his views opposing the project and ff the Commission did not have a copy of
the Gordon Bracken study, she had an extra copy.
Casey Chen, 1265 Minr,esaro Street, Anaheim, CA. He stated he represents the ownership
of 410 N. Lemon apartments. He stated since he learned from staff that the applicant did
not complete the noise study, he just went ahead and hired an independent acoustical
engineer, Gordon Bracken & Associates, to address the issue of the noise and he came up
with the report which he submitted last week. He stated he would not repeat what Ms.
VilJak Just mentioned.
He stated the result of this report is that the noise level that BMX will generate will exceed
the Ctty standards and h Is black and white on the report unless Traffic can come up with ~
something otherwise. In addftion, he understands that the applicant has discussed the
traffic or parking situation with staff and he has not had a chance to review the complete
traffic study.
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He expressed his concerns that traffic would Interfere with the existing traffic volume and
circulation pattern in the residential neighborhood. He added he thought the noise and
traffic were the most crucial points.
REBUTTAL:
Mr. Stoll stated they were given a list of qualified engineers to do a noise study. He stated
Gordon Bricl:en & Associates were tops on the list. He explained they called them the first
day they received the Ilst and he Informed him that Mr. Chen was going to be having his
noise study done. They offered, in good faith, an unbiased report and tho, they would be
more than happy co split the cost with them. He stated it took them over a week to get
back to him and stated that for whatever reason they were not Interested in doing that.
He stated they were then short on time and the other two people he contacted were unable
to do that. He stated John Schippers who is a qualified sound specialist spoke with Greg
McCafferty on the phone; he went to the City himself and picked up all of the requirements
that were needed for a noise study and that is what was used.
He stated he met with Mr. Yalda and his superior last week and they discussed the parking
situation and have come to an agreement that best suits everyone so that once again
parking is not a concern.
He stated in regards to the sound travelling to their house, the Ciry only requests a 6-foot
wall. They have gone one step further and have already told the people that they will be
putting up an 8-foot wall which will pretty much all but deaden the noise going back to their
properties.
He stated in regards to her statement that the other people were not aware of the noise-
they have been made aware of the noise and are fully aware of everything and they have
their support. He added they are Just trying to do something nice for the City
John Schippers, 1150 W. Brlardale, Orange, CA. He stated he is the owner of Premiere
Sound and Video, Incorporated. He stated he went to the Orange track and took all of the
db readings. He stated that was based on the ambience sound, i.e., the freeway and the
sound of children riding the bikes. He stated there Is no sound. He explained you can
stand right next to them and the db meter does not even register.
He referenced the gates slapping down. He stated he will not d(spute the other engineer.
He stated the gate slapping down is Irrelevant because that is gate is not being used. He
stated they are using a very old gate. He explained the new gate that Mr. Stoll will be
using has a pad that the gate lands on; the hinge portion will have rubber on it which will
quiet the hinge when it slaps down.
He referenced the paging system. He stated the typical paging system uses horns; they
have a long throw and these are all mid ranges and that is what really carries the sound.
He explained that is not what Mr. Stoll is planning on using. He shoved a model and i
stated the bleachers are counter sunk into the ground. He stated the ground Itself will
deaden sound Immensely. He explained sound does travel somewhat line-of-sight, i.e., it
does not go up and throw curves unless the wind carries it.
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He stated the paging system they are going to be using uses small, low wattage speakers
~ along the tops of the bleachers pointing back down; the sound will be going Into the track
and deadening in the track. He added the sound will not travel far at all, so it is not like
you are at a swapmeet with big horns throwing sound everywhere. He referenced the
model and stated the sound will have to travel up 10 feet plus there are tress that will
deaden sound plus an 8-foot block wal;. He stated an a-foot block wall will usually stop
sound all of the time and referenced how they are used on freeways and that it works.
He stated the wall will be 8 feet high and the residence house is a one story building and
the top of tie window is not over 8 fesi high. He added the sound will have a hard time
panetrating the house. He stated as far as the apartment complex and on the study he
submitted, he took a ten second sample and gave tham the low, high and average. He
stated the average number does not mean that you do your standard mathematic addition
and division to get the average. He elaborated and stated the average reading of the traffic
is 59, 64, and 56 driving by the street. He gave some further statisti•~s and stated every
area is different. He reiterated that the sound of the racing itself does not even register.
He eluded to a child riding by on a bicycle and all you hear is the chain on the gear. His
professional opinion is that he does not see how this will be unsatisfactory as far as the
Anaheim Code goes.
Commissioner Hanninger asked if it was his company that is going to provide the sound
system at the track?
Mr. Schippper Indicated that was correct.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
DISCUSSION:
` Commissioner Mayer stated she had a question about what type of sound is going to be
on the 2U-foot announcer's tower.
Mr. Schlpper stated that is Just basically where the announcer will be standing. He
explained he is in a tall tower so he can see the track. He will have a microphone in order
to speak to the people at the starting gate and talk to the people observing.
He stated the people observing will have small speakers right by them and h will be like
having i~eadphones on, I.e., you can hear it but the person next to you cannot. He stated
the Urange track is using a horn. He stated they are going to be using an outdoor speaker
and it is going to produce more low levels and the low levels will die quickly. He explained.
It was clarified that there are no speakers on the tower and that it is there for visual
reasons.
Commissioner Mayer asked what the highest level above the ground level that a speaker
will be located?
Mr. Schlpper stated it will all be at ground level except for at the hut. He explained they
have not laid out exactly where everything is going to be, but the concapt will be that ~
everything will be at ground level facing down. He further stated at the booths and huts
where they have cafeterias, etc., :hey will be up in the ceiling facing straight down. He I
stated with that type of set up the sound travels down and if it bounces it will bounce up. i
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Chairman Peraza asked how they were going to mute the sound of the starting gate?
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Mr. Schipper explained most of the sound of the starting gate is coming from the metal
slapping on metal and wherever there is a metal contact there is going to be a rubber pad
put as well as the new gate. He added he has not personally seen the new gate, but he
has been assured that ft is a totally new gate and he will have ft totally quieted down and
as Mr. Stoll mentioned earlier, if that is not the case then he will shut ft down until it is fixed.
Chairman Peraza stated when he vie'ted the facility in Chandler, AZ, the gate was noisy.
He explained the speaker system was on a pole located in the middle.
Mr. Schipper stated the track will be state-of-the-ar<, therefore, the design of the system will
be a key factor.
Chairman Pera~a stated in Chandler, AZ they were in the process of building the homes
across the street and no one lived in them; on the west side he vlsfted a family and they
said inside they could not hear the noise, however, they could hear noise on the outside.
He stated they did not seem to mind because the children were Involved.
Mr. Schipper stated he visited the site on a Friday night and sat in front of the apartment
buildings to see how loud the concerts were and the concerts on Friday evenings v,ill
roughly be at the same decibel level. He added the Disneyland fireworks will be at a lot
higher decibel level than this track will ever be.
Commissioner Caldwell asked ff he has heard of Gordon Bracken & Associates?
Mr. Schipper indicated he has heard of them, however, ho has never dealt with them.
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Mr. Schipper indicated he did not.
Commissioner Caldwell asked ff he read page 4 of our staff report regarding their analysis
of his report?
Mr. Schipper stated ha has not.
Commissioner Caldwell addres:aed Ms. Viljak. He asked ff they were able to mitigate the
sound, would she have any other problem with the track?
Mr. VilJak stated the hours of operation relative to the noise/sound.
Commissioner Caldwell asked if they could do away with the sound problem, did she have
any other problems with the track? He explained they need to figure out ff this will have a
detrimental effect on the properties that currently neighbor this one. It appeared to him
that they could nail this down to a noise problem. He stated he could not vote for ft ff
there was going to be a noise problem. He wanted to know ff there were any other areas '.
of concern?
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Mr. Viljak stated if the noise level would not exceed what it is right now, then she thought
they could entertain the possibility of having a BMX next door. She stated based on the
study Brirken did, if that noise were to be there 12 hours a day 7 days a week, then she
could not live with that type of noise. She stated he summarized the environmental noise
as it is right now and if it stays at that then I guess she could entertain it.
Commissioner Mayer addressed the Parks and Recreation Department and asked about the
Pearson Park Theater and whether they had a chance to look at this Information and how
that might or might not affect the theater programming.
Terry Lowe, Recreation Services Manager, reponsible person for Pearson Park
Amphitheater's programming. He stated thus far he has not specifically seen the noise
study although he has had contact with Planning staff and have given them some Input as
far as showtimes and what concerns they have. Their shows vary a great deal. He
explained th^_y are generally acoustic in nature due to the fact that they do not want to
disturb their neighbors. He further explained up until about 4 or 5 years ago the types of
shows they were doing was a concern of the neighbors. He stated for the most part they
have limited the shows to acoustic or slightly modified sound to not be a burden to their
neighbors. Additionally, they have had thair sound system totally redesigned as part of
their master planning process to reduce the noise as much as possible. He added it is his
understanding that they have not had a complaint from the neighbors for several years.
Chairman Peraza suggested placing some conditions on the conditional use permit.
Mr. Lowe stated the two major concerns they have are the parking and any noise that
might Interfere with the productions they are doing. He explained thus far the
arrangements they have with Pacific Bell to utilize the'• parking lot under contract during
`~; their performances has reduced the impact of their shows on the neighborhood.
He stated in addition to sound they have not had a parking complaint in some time as well
because of the contractual arrangement with Pacific Bell.
Commissioner Caldwell stated he is very much in favor of a BMX track, but not at the
expense of the neighbors and right now based on legitimate information he has, this BMX
track is going to exceed the Ciry's Municipal Code in regards to sound at the property line.
He further stated this is a land use Issue and not an emotional issue, and unless some
additional information can be provided, he would be forced to vote no. He stated some
additional information may be helpful to the neighbors that are opposed as well as the
Commission.
Commissioner Henninger stated they have spent a lot of time on this and have had a
number of hearings. He stated there have been requests for a noise study by a qualified
professional and the applicant has not chosen to do that. He stated they could continue
this and provide that Information or they could deny this.
Commissioner Mayer stated she was feeling a little more comfortable with the
understanding that there are not going to be speakers on the 20-foot announcer's tower j
and that they are going to be at ground level and further going into the ground. However,
she would really like to see infrrmation on this proposed new state-of-the-art starting gate
and she wondered H fire manufacturer would have some information on how much sound i
his product would make when it is functioning.
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She stated she did not have enough Information at this time to go forward with this. She
added h appears that the quality of life will be at risk in the neighborhood.
Commissioner Henninger stated in summing up the testimony from the applicant, they have
had testimonial, and not factual style testimony, and he found that not to be very
persuasive. He stated there was some testimony if there were some noise complaints that
they were going to shut their doors and not operate. He added he has yet to see a
businessman who would do something like that.
A4r. Stoll stated his partner is Bill Taromina and he is the one that stated that. He added
they are doing this more for the City.
Commissioner Henninger asked ff they continued this for 2 weeks, could he get a qualified
noise professional to come and talk to the Commission about this system?
Mr. Stoll indicated he could.
Commissioner Henninger stated that is what they have asked for ail alor.;~ and that is what
the staff's recommendation is right now. He stated he gets the feeling from the testimony
that the sound system is not exactly designed yet. He explained he would Tike to see a
specific design of the sound system that goes with their plans that would show the exact
location and the specifications on the equipment and gate so that a noise professional
could look at that and tell them one way or another ff they will meet the requirements or
not. He stated that is what they have all been looking for and they have not gotten that
yet.
He stated he agrees that the Orange track may not be exactly Ilke this because of
r . equipment variations and if that is true maybe there is a way to do this.
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Mr. Borrego stated they mentioned in the hearing that they were now Interested in raising
the height of the wall up to 8 feet and the current Code Iimftatlon is 6 feet, therefore, ff they
did want to come in wfth an 8-foot wall they would need to readvertise this application to
Include that as a waiver from the Code.
Commissioner Henninger suggested that they continue this hem for 4 weeks and
readvertise for an 8-foot wall for sound attenuation and then they will not be delayed again.
Greg McCafferty, Associate Planner, suggested that the applicant meet with staff first before
they do the study in order to make sure that the Planning Commission at the next hearing
gets what they need to get past the CEQA finding.
Mr. Stoll stated when he got with Mr. Schippers they called Greg McCafferty on the phone
and requested a meeting. Mr. McCafferty stated they should go down, get the Codes and
that is all they needed and that was exactly what they did. He explained they tried to do
everything that they asked them to do.
Mr. McCafferty explained in his letter attached to the staff report, he requested a meeting
w Sth the property owner, applicant and the consultant to discuss the parameters of the
;:cudy before the study was done and that was not done.
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ACTION: Commissioner Henninger offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Caldwell
/~, and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent and Commissioner Boydstun
& ~' declared a conflict of interest) that consideration of the aforementioned matter be continued
to the regularly-scheduled meeting of September 7, 1994 (Wednesday), in order for the
applicant to submit a noise study and to advertise a wall height waiver.
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4a. CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION Continued to
4b. VARIANCE N0.4256 September 7, 1994
(Wednesday)
OWNER: R.H. SIEGLE, 919 E. South Street, Anaheim, CA 92805
AGENT: PHILLIP R. SCHWARTZE, 31682 EI Camino Real, San
Juan Capistrano, CA 92678
LOCATION: 919 E. South Street. Property Is approximately 3.6
acres located at the northwest corner of South Street
and Rose Street.
Waiver of dedication and Improvements for Tentative Parcel Maa No.
91-164.
Continued from the July 25, 1994 Planning Commission meeting.
VARIANCE RESOLUTION NO.
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION.
OPPOSITION: None
ACTION: Commissioner Henninger offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Caldwell and
l MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent) that consideration of the aforementioned
matter be continued to the regularly-scheduled meeting of September 7, 1994 (Wednesday).
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II 5c. CONDITIONALOUSERPEQ MITENON3662 PreviouslR advertised I GPan~ed
OWNER: WEST STREET DEVELOPMENT INC., Attn: Doug
Browne, P.O. BOX 18021, Anaheim, CA 92817
LOCATION: 6270 E. Santa Ana Canyon Road. Property is
approximately 0.94 acre located on the south side of
Santa Ana Canyon Road approximately 515 feet west of
the centerline of Fairmont Boulevard.
Revised plan for a private educational facility and a church with
waivers of minimum setback of institutional uses adjacent to
residential zone boundary, maximum fence height and minimum
structural setback abutting a scenic expressway.
Continued from the July 25, 1994 Planning Commission meeting.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION NO. PC94103
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION.
IN FAVOR: 1 person spoke in favor of subject petition
~. OPPOSITION: None
PETITIONER:
Doug Browne, 151 S. Quintana, Anaheim, CA. He explained this item was trailed to this
meeting because one of the variance requests was omitted from advertisement.
He explained that after this matter was approved early in the summer or late spring, he met
with the neighbors to discuss the concerns that they had with their project and one of the
concerns was that parking near the property line on the west side of the property would
facilitate ingress and egress by other than conventional manners over the fence, therefore,
they requested ff the fence were made taller, then it would be much more disconcerting as
far as being able to jump over it in etcher direction.
He stated originally it was approved that the cypress trees which are permitted across the
westedy site of the property were going to be planted at 36" on center. He stated one of
the neighbors has the same type of cypress trees in his back yard and after measuring it, It
was determined they were 28", therefore, he has agreed to modify the plans to reflect that.
He stated in raising the wall and by moving the playground closer to the wall so the wall
becomes the sound barrier and the sound bounces off the wall, it does not have any length
of travel and he believed that tha sound report that was produced, i.e., the modification to
the original noise study, reflects even a lower amount of decibels at the property line based
on the combination of the playground's proximity to the wall and the Increase in the height 'I
of the wall.
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He stated the third request, after speaking to Sanitation, is that the orlglnal location of the
trash enclosure was tough. He explained there are some retaining walls and other
(~1 structures which are already appearing in the front 100-foot setback which do not require a
variance because it fs not considered to be a structure.
He stated although freestanding by ftself, it was Interpreted by staff to be a structure. He
explained what they are doing is hiding the trash enclosure in the walls and effectively it
disappears behind landscaping and blends right in and makes it much easier for Sanitation
to pick up and handle the trash. He added those are the modiflcations that he is
requesting to the original plan.
IN FAVOP,:
Ray Pontius, 6276 Calie Jaime, Anaheim, CA. He stated they have had conversations wfth
Mr. Browne and they are totally in favor with what is being done at this time. He asked that
the Commission vote yes on this.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Henninger stated he wondered ff there was some way they could readjust
the trash enclosure so that the doors did not front on Santa Ana Canyon Road.
Mr. Browne stated the requirement of the Santation Department is that a double enclosure
be provided. He explained the occupants are not going io be high producers of refuse and
that one of the enclosures will be used for recycling. He asked ff ft would be possible to
use two old style Cfty single enclosures, one for recycling and one for normal trash and ft
was decided that would not be possible.
He stated ff ft is stipulated that he can use two City designed enclosures, then he can
adjust it so that the doors will not face Santa Ana Canyon Road wfth the existing site plan
and iii l;e a minor modfficatlon which probably could be handled at the staff level.
Commissioner Henninger suggested that they put the trash enclosure in the location that is
currently occupied by the most easterly parking stall.
Mr. Browne stated he will lose one parking space if he puts ft there. He is currentlly
overparked.
Commissioner Henninger stated with the st(pulation that he will arrange for the trash
enclosure so the doors of ft do not front on Santa Ana Canyon Road, this is a good
proposal.
ACTION: Commissioner Henninger offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner
Peraza and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent) to approve the
previously approved Negative Declaration (findings in Paragraph 15 of the staff
report).
Commissioner Henninger offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner
Peraza (Commissioner Messe absent) to approve the waiver of Code
Requirement (findings in Paragraphs 22). i
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Commissioner Henninger offered Resoution No. PC94-103 to grant Conditional
Use Permft No. 3662 (findings in Paragraph 23) subject to Interdepartmental
Committee recommended conditions, and with the following changes:
That the trash enclosure shall be relocated so that the doors do not front
Santa Ana Canyon Road. Sa(d enclosure shall be planted with clinging vines
to upgrade its appearance.
That the proposed Italian Cypress trees shall be permanently maintained by
the property owner.
VOTE: 6-0 (Commissioner Messe absent)
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6a. CEOA MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION Approved
6b. RECLASSIFICATION N0. 9495-01 Granted
6c. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT Approved
6d. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0.3702 Granted
6e. TENTATIVE TRACT MAP N0. 14697. REV. 1 ~ Approved
OWNER: JEROME MARKS, SHERRIE R. MARKS et al, 29 Invernes
Lane, Newport Beach, CA 92660
AGENT: HUENNEKENS, QUINN and TALCOTT, 17895 Von
Karman Ave., #340, Irvine, CA 92714
LOCATION: 2144 W. Lincoln Avenue. Property Is approximately
6.47 acres located on the south side of Lincoln Avenue
and approximately 102 feet west of the centerline of
Empirs Street.
To reclassify the subject property from CL(Commercial, Limited) and PD-
C(Parking District-Commercial) Zones to the RM-3000 (Residential,
Multiple-Fam(ly) or a less Intense zone.
To permit a 60-unit, RM-3000, detached condominium development with
waiver of required lot frontage, maximum structural height and minimum
interior setback requirements.
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To establish a 60-lot (including 4 lettered lots) RM-3000 subdivision.
RECLASSIFICATION RESOLUTION NO. PC94104
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION N0. PC941o5
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION.
IN FAVOR: 2 people spoke in favor of subject proposal
OPPOSITION: None
PETITIONER:
Don Huennekens, 2418 Ridgepark Lane, Orange, CA. 92714. He stated this site has
previously been approved by the Planning Commission of 108-units of condominiums
under the RM-2400. He explained they are asking to build 60 detached single-family homes
under the RM-3000.
He stated they have assembled a team of consultants and advisors. They have worked
together with this team to produce a nice single-family home development at affordable
prices. He stated their price range, as they perceive h, will be in the range of $19D,000 to ~
$225,000. He explained the prices in this neighborhood range from around $160,000 to ~
$180,000 on the adjoining single-family development.
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He stated their plans provide for a private open space for each home. He explained the
staff report states a minimum of 1,600 square feet and indicated he would like to have ~
some discussion on that. He stated they thought it is close to 1,000 square feet on the i
r , minimum and gees up to about 3,400 square feet.
He stated they have had a meeting with the adjoining homeowners and the previous plan
of 108-units had a greenbelt on their south property Tine where there are some large
existing trees. He stated homeowners were concerned that the greenbelt be maintained.
He stated they were able to point out to them that the greenbelt wouid not have public
access.
He stated this project will pay its typical fees which includes $264,000 in park fees. He
stated they thought this was a very good use of the property. He asked that they approve
the project.
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IN FAVOR:
Usa Marks Webber, 2166 Pacific Avenue, Costa Mesa, CA. She stated in addition, her
sister Jill Marks and her mother Sheri Marks are the present owners of the property. She ~
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gave some background.
Elizabeth Gerlach, 2117 Hiawatha, Anaheim, CA. She stated the neighbors are satisfied
with the project.
CONCERNED PARTY:
Ross Davis, representing Mullican Medical Center, 5000 Airport Plaza, Long Beach, CA,
who neighbors the property. He stated they were very happy that the lot is being tended
to and that finally some good use could come of it. He explained it has been derelict for
some years and has been somewhat of an eyesore. He expressed his concerns if a Zone
~^- , variance Is being sought he did not want ft to affect the neighboring business or Interrupt or
~ interfere with their ongoing business.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Henninger stated there is no common recreational facility in this proposal
and he thought the rear yards were not big enough to have swimming pools. He
wondered if the applicant had thought about putting in a recreation lot.
Mr. Hunnekens stated they did spend some time on that thought. He explained some of
the back yards would have room for pools and some would also have room for a Jacuzzi.
He stated their concem is the cost factor. This will not be heav(ly populated with children
and they estimate this project will generate 25 students. He explained they do have a
concern for the future affordability of homeowners. He explained further that their
marketing Input is that h would not be a real asset to them and could be a liability to the
homeowners.
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He stated they did pay a lot of attention to try and put a plan together that gave private '
yards quite similar to any residential development. The size of these lots are smaller than h
what the 5,000 or 7,200 are, but with the working couple ft still gives them some private
area to have some outdoor entertainment, but not be lacked !nto a large maintenance area. i
Commissioner Caldwell stated he did not see where the children were going to play and he
did not see where 600 square feet in the back yard was going to be a place where chiidren
can play. He added there was no park close by.
Mr. Hunnekens stated there were several parks close by. He stated there were some parks
off of Anaheim Bivd. He stated not far from where the community centar is located there
is a large park area that would be within walking distance.
He stated there is some question whether 600 square feet is the right measurement. He
stated they have gone over it since they listened to them this morning. He stated at most
there are 6 homes that would have the 600 square feet. He added he thinks ft is closer to
1,000 square feet. He clarified that 6 out of 60 homes would have 600 square-foot yards
and the rest of them would all be larger.
Commissioner Caldwell stated this (s a great thing to have and he is glad to see something
approaching single-family to go in. He stated the weakness in an area like that is no
recreational space and there is no way he seos pools going in on many of those lots
looking at the site plan.
Mr. Hunnekens stated he agrees, however, if you look at an aerial photo of the surrounding
residential, the 5,000 and 7,200 square-foot lots in that area do not have pools in their back
yards etcher.
.°~ Commissioner Caldwell stated he is In favor of the project, but it would enhance it
incredibly if he would devote a lot or 2 to a pool and some kind of recreaticnal space-not
necessarily a structure that would have to be maintained on the backs of the owners, but tp
offer them that option.
Mr. Hunnekens explained that a pool costs money and the homeowners would have to
have liability insurance.
Commissioner Taft stated ft has always been his understanding that pools carry a very high
association liability insurance which can be quite costly. He stated the trade-off in his mind
is ff this was a condominium project they would want a play area, but the trade-off is they
get a private back yard. He stated if he were a new buyer he would go for the private
1,000 square-foot back yard and give up the community pool.
Commissioner Henninger stated he is fairly satisfied with the project the way ft is proposed.
Mr. Borrego stated he would like to mention one condition that was inadvertently left out of
the file which they do attach to all multiple family projects and that is in regards to the
covenant that needs to be recorded informing prospective buyers of possible overcrowded
condftions in the local schools. He stated that is a standard condtion :hat they attach to
all multiple family projects and it should be made a condition of the reclassification as was
in the previous reclassification that was previously approved on the property.
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Greg McCafferty, Associate Planner, slated one additional thing in regards to schools, the
School District claims there is going to be approximately 25 students generated from the
project. He stated Just to note, for the record, there has been no evidence submitted
~!A through the Initial Study process that that in fact is going to occur. He referenced
paragraph 5 under Background, and stated the original reclassification, the legislative
action, actually called for 108-units so this is a less intense project.
Chairman Boydstun asked for clarification that he heard about the covenant that the buyers
will need to be notified that they will probably have to be bused.
Mr. Hunnekens indicated he understood.
Commissioner Tait asked what the school fees were on this project?
Mr. Hunnekens stated $1.72 asquare-foot for the homes. He stated ft runs approximately
$3,600 a home.
Commissioner Henninger offered a mot!on, seconded by Commissioner Tait and MOTION
CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent) to approve the Mitigated Negative Declaration
(findings in Paragraph 18, page 6 of the staff report).
Commissioner Henninger offered Resolution No. PC94-104 (Commissioner Messe absent)
to grant Reclassification No. 94-95-01 subject to Interdepartmental Committee
recommendsd conditions, listed on page 10 of the staff report wfth the following added
condition:
1. That an unsubordinated covenant shall be recorded wfth the Office of the Orange
County Recorder agreeing to provide the buyer of each dwelling unit wfth written
information obtained from the school district(s) pertaining to possible overcrowded
conditions and busing status of the school(s) serving the dwelling unft. A copy of the
covenant shall be submitted to and approved by the City Attorney prior to recordation.
A copy of the recorded covenant shall be submitted to the Zoning Division.
Commissioner Henninger offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Taft and MOTION
CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent) to approve the waiver of Code Requirement
(findings in Paragraph 28 of the staff report).
Commissioner Henninger offered Resolution No. PC94.105 to grant Condftional Use Permit
No. 3702 (Commissioner Messe absent) (findings in paragraph 29 of the staff report) and
subject to Interdepartmental Committee recommended conditions.
Commissioner Henninger offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Tait and MOTION
CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent) to approve Tentative Tract Map No. 14697, Rev. 1,
(findings In Paragraph 30 of the staff report) and subject to Interdepartmental Committee
recommended condtions.
VOTE: 6.0 (Commissioner Messe absent)
MOTION: Commissioner Henninger offered a Motion, seconded by Commisslo~~cr Peraza and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent) that the Planning Commission does hereby
direct staff to agendize a Code Amendment to develop standards appropriate to single family
detached condominiums.
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7a. CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION
7b. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT
7C. CONDITIONAL USE PERMiT N0. 3703
OWNER: SIDNEY E, I.EWIS FAMILY TRUST, ATTN: John 0.
Franklin, 6375 E. Tanque Verde Rd., Tucson, AZ
85751
AGENT: LEWIS R. SCHMID, 1725 S. Douglass Rd., Ste. "C",
Anaheim, CA 92806
LOCATION: 2610.20 E. Ketella Avenue. Property Is approximately
1.32 acres located south End east of the southeast
corner of Katella Avenue and Douglass Road.
To permit a 22,000•square foot planned unit commercial shopping
center including a 14,000-square foot semi-enclosed restaurant with
on-premise sale and consumption of beer and wine with waiver of
minimum landscape requirements and required parking lot
landscaping.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION NO.
Continued to
September 7, 1994
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMIS51ON ACTION.
OPPOSITION: None
PETITIONER:
Jeff Bergsma, architect for the applicant. (No address given). He stated the proposed
project l~ a planned unit shopping center. He explained they are taking 3 buildings and
doing a facade renovation to tie them in and that the project is located across the street
from the Arena. He further explained the anchor tenant for this project is a browery that
is a combination of a small brewery that produces beer and restaurant.
He stated they do agree to the proposed conditions by the Police Department. He
stated regarding the landscape design and layout of the project, their initial Intent was to
make the landscaping compatible with the Arena. He elaborated.
He explained they also had the Idea of removing the pole signs out on the street and
have all of the signage on the building. He stated that is why they spread out the trees.
He stated they are 20-foot on centers along Katella and also even more dense along
Douglass, but they would like not to have the tree islands along the 30 spaces in the
front. He explained that is where they are taking down the pole signs and asking for
wall signage and why they are asking for the waiver for the landscape requirements.
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He stated the parking exists on the site in the front, side and back and there are
additional spaces they are leasing from the County and City in agreement for additional
parking mainly for the brewary for event times.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Henninger asked how he was providing parking for this project?
Mr. Bergsma explained they have an agreement with the County and the Ciry on the
adjacent lot. He stated there is a tentative agreement that is in the process and they are
very close on terms as of last week. He stated the Ciry and County are agreeing on
parking and they would use them on non-event nights. He explained their patrons are
mostly event patrons, therefore, event patrons would be their patrons in that they would
be sharing the lot during event times. He stated on non-event days they would get a
certain amount of spaces and it would be open for lunch and dinner during non-event
times.
Commissioner Henninger asked iF this was the agreement they have seen that would
allow parking during week days up until 5:30p.m.?
Mr. Bergsma indicated that was correct.
Commissioner Henninger clarified then there is no parking after 5:30p.m. or on
weekends?
Mr. Bergsma indicated that was not correct.
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property. He explained they have a lease option on the balance of the subject property.
He further explained the agreement they have been working on with the County is to
supplement or wipe out the present license agreement the Ciry has with the County at
this time for parking adjacent to their site.
He stated they have a 5 year agreement which can be cancelled in 90 days and the Ciry
is desirous of a longer term lease and they are desirous of the same. He explained they
went to the County and proposed various methods of achieving a longer term lease and
they think they are close to that at this time. He stated as of this morning they would
have 150 parking spaces available to them from 10:OOa.m. (or 11:OOa.m. m the morning)
to S:OOp.m. or 5:30p.m. After that time they have unlimited parking of the 300 spaces
which are available providing the Arena does not have an event whereby they are using
those spaces for patrons at a charge.
He stated ft does mention that the lease has to be recorded and that is fine with him,
except the agreement as it stands today, is between the County of Orange or the Cfty of
Anaheim. He explained that is the initial agreement. He will be ratifying it and attesting
to it, but that aspect of it does not give him any control. He stated once it is
established, the Ciry of Anaheim is going to draw up another lease with himself and
Ogden and could be recorded also. He added he just wanted to point out that it could
be that maybe the County does not want to lease record h. `
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He asked that they possibly make available, In this situation, a vehicle that would
substitute having to record a lease if the legal department or the County will not allow
the lease to be recorded.
' Commissioner Henninger asked how long they anticipate the agreement is going to last
regarding these parking spaces?
Mr. Schmid stated 10 years. He explained ff it is not 10 years they cannot go ahead
with the development and in addition the County does not want to go beyond 10 years
either.
Chairwoman Boydstun asked ff they had just 2 restaurants on the premises?
Mr. Schmid stated right now they Just have plans for one and they may have one more
in the future.
Chairwoman Boydstun asked ff he would have a problem if they place a condition that
limits the number of restaurants you can have?
Mr. Schmid stated he did not. He added they would not want anymore than two.
Chairwoman Boydstun asked how may feet did he think they would be allotting to the
second restaurant?
Mr. Schmid stated approximately 3,000 square feet would be fine.
Commissioner Henninger asked for clarification if the parking analysis was based on just
' • the one restaurant?
Jonathan Borrego, Senior Planner, stated the numbers that were generated in the staff
report are based on the one square footage of the restaurant that is shown on the plans.
He stated ff they were to propose another rest¢~urant in the future then there would be
some additional parking that would need to bo provided in order to meet Code. He
explained that also goes along with some o- the uses that were shown in the letter that
is attacY ed to the report outlining certain uses. He further explained that some of those
uses, for example, the medical uses havo a higher parking requirement than the
standard retail. He stated the result of those uses would only be permitted ff they had
an excess of the amount of parking that they were currently proposing at this lima.
Commissioner Henninger stated for clarification the parking that is proposed covers a
14,000 square foot restaurant plus 4 retail stores used for general retail use.
Mr. Borrego stated that Is 5.5 per 1,000.
Mr. Schmid clarified that the 14,000 square feet under roof is actually 10,000 square feet,
and then there is a patio area that staff has added to that.
Chairwoman Boydstun stated they have to allow parking for it.
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Commissloner Caldwell stated the applicant or the applicant's architect made reference z
to a pole sign. He stated they wanted them to waive their parking lot landscape F
requirements because they want to put signage on the building. He asked ff pole signs
were allowed in that area?
Mr. Borrego stated ff they were legally permitted to begin with, they would be
grandfathered in ff they met Code. He stated pole signs are permitted and there are no
restrictions on having a pole oign.
Dialogue not audible.
Chairwoman Boydstun asked ff they could place the trees a little closer and get a couple
of more trees in there?
Dialogue not audible.
Mr. Schmid stated they are 20 feet apart now which is what Code requires. He stated
they do want good visibility and ff they get rid of signs people need to be able to read
the signs on the buildings. He stated on the southwest corner there is an existing
tenant called National Skate Locker and that pole sign runs with his lease. He stated
the tenant has Indicated to him that once they do their restoration he is willing to get rid
of the pole sign. However, he cannot go to him until this has been approved.
He stated the pole sign and the landscaped area exists in the corner and when you exit
from the Arena attar an event, they crowd up and spill over onto the Curb. He explained
the City asked them to create a plaza?? to serve as a collection point. He stated that
_ took out another pole sign, therefore, those design elements were atrade-off.
~ Con-,missione- Henninger asked for clarification if the trees along the frontage in the
rendering were on 20-foot centers?
Mr. Schmid indicated that was correct.
Commissioner Henninger stated then that is the Code requirement and he asked ff the
reason there was not that many in there Is because there are driveways? He asked ff
that frontage met Code?
Mr. Borrego stated they may meet Code along Katella Avenue as far as the trees are
being shown on 20-foot canters because that is all that is required, however, the
deficiency may actually come in on Douglass.
Commissloner Henninger stated there is no great need to have visibility along Douglass.
Therefore, they could put trees in on 20-foot centers along Douglass.
Mr. Schmid stated they have trees at less than 20-foot centers on Douglass--it is Just
hard to see in the picture. He explained there are pine trees and more trees than the
minimum required along Douglass.
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Commissioner Caidwell stated they should be able to find a way to meet the Code and ~
® have exposure. He asked about using palm trees. He was not certain as to much the c
l!"~ palms would block the view of the building. He thought the Arena was not a good g
comparison. f
Mr. Schmid stated he spoke with Mr. Bates prior to the meeting about a way of meeting
this requirement and they could group the trees in places which has been done before.
He added they are more than willing to do that on the back and on the side and among
their parking. He stated he wanted to make it clear that they wanted to try to keep the
trees on Katella to 20 feet ff they can. He stated he thought ft was consistent wfth what
the Arena has done also.
Commissioner Caldwell stated they were not building an Arena and that he did not think
ft was fair for them to try to compare this with the Arena. He stated the Arena is a
whole different use and whole different concept. He stated the parking requirements are
also different.
Mr. Schmid clarified he was Just trying to make it compatible.
Commissioner Caldwell stated he would personally like to see the trees go in according
to Cade and would like them, if ho could find a way, to group them and still enhance his
business which is important as well.
Chairwoman Boydstun asked if he could put some planters in the front of the building
that would not be so high as to intedere Kith the signs on the bu(Iding to soften it?
Mr. Schmid stated they do not have the room with the setbacks.
~ Further discussion took place regarding the Idea of the planters.
Commissioner Henninger asked about taking every tenth parking space and putting in a
planter.
Mr. Schmid stated that is the one they are in contention wfth. He stated he did not think
the point was how many trees they have, they can do that. They can have the amount
of trees they need to have and they can do the minimum. They are just saying they do
not wsnt those Islands and what they are giving them for islands is pole signs.
Commissioner Henninger asked why they do not want the Islands?
Mr. Schmid explained they lose parking spaces and every single parking space is
Important to them they could have planters. They would not want to put in solid trees to
block the signage of the center itself.
Commissioner Henninger stated you just contradicted yourself, i.e., you stated you did
not want planters and now you say you can have planters. Which is ft?
Mr. Schmid stated it is at the Commission's discretion.
Commissioner Peraza asked if he was talking about planters on the parking spaces?
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Mr Schmid stated between the parking spaces. He stated they could have the required
amount of trees and they can have those spaces between M that what they are telling
them they have to do. He added they are trying to create some kind of compromise.
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CommissionerCaldwell stated the only problem was the Ilne•of-sight to the signs. He i
stated there is certainly landscaping that will not obscure their signage. He stated they
can still put in the landscaping and still have the visibility of the street which is Important ,
to the business.
Chairwoman Boydstun stated they are looking for more planters and not necessarily
more trees but something to break it up a little bft.
Mr. Schmid stated they would be losing parking spaces H they did that. He stated he
understands they want landscaping in the parking area.
Commissioner Henninger stated that is what their Code requires and that improves the
look of the parking lot. Commissioner Henninger asked if they could do that?
Mr. Schmid stated it was possible to do that.
Selma Mann, Deputy City Attorney, stated it appears from the testimony that has been
given that the parking that Is off-site would not be available at all times and that a
parking waiver would be required for this application. She stated the Anaheim Municipal
Code has very specific requirements with regard to the use of off-site parking spaces.
She explained that the rule Is that the spaces be located on the same lot as the main
building for which the parking is required or on the property immediately contiguous to
said lot provided said parking is located thereon within reasonable walking distance from
such building.
She stated they are talking about a situation where k is adjacent to or in close proximity
to the site, and it is not owned by the applicant. She read the Code into the record.
She explained since these spaces are not being provided at all times, that the use is
going to be in operation, a waiver would be required that would allow for the types of
flexibility that they are talking about. In addition, the waiver procedure should provide a
parking study that indicates that the type of joint use that is being proposed is going to
Indeed satisfy the parking requirements for the center.
Commissioner Henninger asked if they should continue this to advertise the waiveR
Ms. Mann stated that would be the only meaningful way to do it. She stated
alternatively it could be approved with a condition that states the number of required
parking spaces indicating that a parking agreement has to be recorded which provides
for off street parking at all times that the use is in operation which would be meaningless
to them at this point.
Commissioner Mayer stated that they had parking, but after a certain amount of time it
would become an Arena patron paying to park that could also go to their restaurant.
Commissioner Henninger stated apparently the parkiny is not for them, it is for Arena i
events. Therefore, it is really not available to them, but an Arena customer would j
probably also be their customer. He added this is a matter of dual use and it requires a
waiver. Ii
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Commissloner Henninger stated ff they advertise for a waiver, k would give them time to
~ come back with a plan that would show the Commission how they were going to
landscape also.
Commissioner Taft stated he would be more concemed wfth the landscaping along
Katella. He was not so sure ft was necessary in the rest of the lot. They would lose a
large number of parking spaces.
Chairwoman Boydstun stated they need all of the parking they can get.
Commissioner Caldwell stated they are less concerned with Douglass.
Commissioner Henninger stated the testimony is they have all of the parking they need
over and above the 150 spaces after hours. He stated presumably the parking Is not
critical.
Chairwoman Boydstun stated then they should place a restriction that there is just the
one restaurant wfthout coming back in again to change the CUP so they know that they
have enough parking and that ft would have to be businesses that meet the parking
Code the way this was figured, I.e., 5.5. She added anything that required more than
5.5 parking they would have to come in for an adjustment on the CUP.
ACTION: Commissloner Henninger offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner
Mayer and MOTION CP,Qi~IED (Commissioner Messe absent) that consideration of the
aforementioned matter be continued to the regularly-scheduled meeting of
September 7, 1994 (Wednesday) in order for the applicant to readvertise a parking
waiver.
Commissioner Henninger requested that staff speak with the applicant so that the
appiicant clearly understands that they had agreed to provide parking and eliminate
these waNers, therefore, they should update their plans to reflect that when they come
back.
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8a. CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION Approved
eb. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT Denied
8c. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 3704 Granted, in part
OWNER: EVERETT H. and ELMA M. MILLER, TRUSTEES, 270
Roycroft Avenue, Long Beach, CA 92803
AGENT: TAIT & ASSOCIATES, INC., Attn: Timothy Virus, 1100 Town
& Country Road, #1200, Orange, CA 92668
LOCATION: 956 S. Brookhurst Street. Property is approximately
0.47 acre located at the northeast corner of Ball Road
and Brookhurst Street.
To permit a remodeled automobile service station and to construct a
car wash facility with waivers of (a) minimum distance between service
stations, (b) maximum self-service sign area and (c) minimum
landscaping at street frontages.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION NO. PC94106
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION.
,' ; OPPOSITION: Nane
Commissioner Taft declared a conflict of Interest as defined by Anaheim Ciry Planning
Commission Resolution No. PC76-157 adopting a Conflict of Interest Code for the Planning
Commission and Government Code Section 3625, et seq., in that his firm represents Shell Oil on
this project and pursuant to the provisions of the above Codes, declared to the Chairman that
he was withdrawing from the hearing in connection wfth Conditional Use Permit No. 3704 and
would not take part in either the discussion or the voting thereon and had not discussed this
matter with any member of the Planning Commission. Thereupon Commissioner Taft left the
Council Chamber.
PETITIONER:
Timothy Virus, 1100 Town and Country Road, Suite 1200, Orange, CA. He stated this
project is a station where the owner, several years ago, converted to a gasoline operation
only. He has now found that his market is changed to the point that the Shell Corporation
would like to add a car wash operation to this facility in order to Improve the service to Its
constituents.
He explained as part of that modernization and improvement of that facility, he proposed a
visual update to the new corporate standard imaging. He stated they will be relocating the
existing kiosk structure which does not meet handicap, Titla 24 or ADA requirements to an
addition onto the new car wash building in order to provide the adequate clearances for the i
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He stated in working with staff they have made some modfficadons; they have agreed to
.-~ the closure of the driveway and have raworked the large planter area which was a previous
attempt at greening by astro turf to a nice planter closing off the driveway.
He did have some concerns. He explained one concem is the waiver and staff's
interpretation of that waiver. He expressed his concerns regarding signage. He stated
staff's Interpretation (s essentially saying that the Anaheim logo on the back exceeds the
sign requirement because the wall panel is too large. He gave some further statistics
relative to the signage. He stated their total signage is well within the City requirements
and they are asking for one deviation from the elevational package.
He explained on the canopy they Indicated that there would be Shell text and a pectin on
the front and the back, but that was a drafting error as there would be no reason to have
signage facing the adjacent apartment complex. He asked that they could remove that
signage and place it on the ends of the canopy which face onto Ball Road and onto the
adjacent Commercial property.
He stated their other concern regarding the staff report is a request for a condition to limit
their corner signage to an 8-foot monument. He understands that most cities are going to
monument signs and in some ways, because or .~~ual blight, ft is a good move. However,
in this condition they would be limiting his client any "+eir may:~etability in that the
monument sign would be the only monument sign in that area for 4 or 5 blocks in either
direction. He stated he drove Brookhurst this morning anc~ Ball Road and every sign in
that area is 12 to 20 feet tall. He eluded to the Brookhurst t'-iall signage and others. He
asked that they not place that condition on this package and allow them their 25•foot
signage as is currently allowed by Code.
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DISCUSSION:
Chairwoman Boydstun stated the station at the corner of Ball and Harbor is a nice looking
station and it has a monument sign.
Mr. Virus indicated that was true. He stated Ball and Harbor is a very nice station but that
entire area has been redeveloped with the new hotel and bridge.
Chairwoman Boydstun stated they want to Improve the area where this project is going to
be also.
Commissioner Henninger stated they have to start somewhere.
Mr. Virus stated he recommends that they start with a revision of the City Code.
Commissioner Caldwell stated he has a tendency to agree with Mr. Virus on the second
waiver (maximum self-service sign area) and he agrees with the Chairperson regarding the
monument sign.
Chairwoman Boydstun stated she has no problem with the 6 square feet. She thought it ,i
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ACTION:
Commissioner Caldwell offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Peraza and MOTION
CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent and Commissioner Tait declared a conflict of
Interest) to approve the CEOA Negative Declaration (findings In Paragraph 21 of the staff
report).
Greg McCafferty, Associate Planner, stated he would like to add one condition to the staff
report.
'That the building plans indicate a dryer unit with the same noise specifications as a thrust
throw dryer mentioned in Paragraph 28, or one that is equally acceptable in terms of noise
specifications."
Mr. Virus stated they have no problem with that. He stated the acoustical engineer has met
with City staff and was out at the site last week. He explained he is in the process of
finalizing his report and they will have that report to the Planning Department with their
building submittal.
Commissioner Caldwell offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Peraza and MOTION
CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent and Commissioner Tait declared a conflict of
Interest) to deny waivers of Code requirement (a) and (c) which were deleted following
public notiflcatlon and to approve waiver (b) (findings in Paragraph 30 of the staff report).
(Note: The above motion was later withdrawn. Rater to 'Action Continued" on page
26).
~'" ~ Commissioner Caldwell offered Resolution No. PC94-106 to grant Conditional Use Permit
' No. 3704 in part (Commissioner Masse absent and Commissioner Taft declared a conflict of
Interest) (findings in Paragraph 31, page 6 of the staff report) subject to Interdepartmental
Committee recommended conditions, and with the following added conditions:
1. That the proposed sign shall be limited a monument sign wkh similar dimensions as the
monument sign located at the Shell service station on the northwest corner of Ball Road
and Harbor Boulevard.
2. That the building plans shall indicate that the dryer unit has the same noise
specifications as the Thrust Pro dryer unit mentioned in Paragraph 28 of the August 8,
1994 Planning Commission staff report or one that is equally acceptable in terms of
noise specifications.
Mr. Virus asked since the ordinance for the monument signs are not prepared yet, is there
any Iimft as far as the square footage of that signage? He stated ff they go up to the 350
square feet allowed by Code or that is going to be a very long 8•foot sign.
Chairwoman Boydstun stated they did that on Euclid and let us not do that again.
Mr. Borrego stated the only thing he would offer is to perhaps limit it to a dimension of 6
feet in height and 10 feet in width.
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Chairwoman Boydstun asked if they could have it come back to the Commission for
~.-~ approval as a Report and Recommendation Item before ft is built?
Mr. Borrego indicated they could do that. He suggested they use the sign at Ball Road
and Harbor Blvd: as a reference point and that would be acceptable to staff. It does clearly
Identify the prices on the sign and it roughly has the dimensions he Just gave.
ACTION CONTINUED:
Commissioner Caldwell stated he would modffy his resolution to use the sign at the Sheli
station at Harbor Blvd. and Ball Road as a criteria and that they will get a sign package
back as a part of their Reports and Recommendations.
Selma Mann, Deputy City Attorney, stated she wouid like some clarification on the waiver
that was approved on the maximum self-service sign area. She asked ff they meet the
intent of that Code requirement or that no waiver was required?
Commissioner Henninger suggested that they deny that waiver and Just make a finding that
they believe that those signs meet the intent of the Code because they are not as large as
staff thought they were.
Commissioner Caldwell offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Peraza and MOTION
CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent and and Commissioner Taft declared a conflict of
interest) that the previous motion pertaining to waiver of Code requirements be wffhdrawn.
Commissioner Caldwell offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Henninger and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent and Commissioner Taft declared a
~'°; conflict of interest) to deny waivers of Cade requirement (a) and (c) which were deleted
following public notffication and to deny waiver (b) on the basis that the proposed sign
meets the intent of the Code (findings in Paragraph 30 of the staff report).
VOTE: 5-0 (Commissioner Tait declared a conflict of interest and Commissioner Messe was
absent)
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9a. CEOA NEGATIVE DECLARATION I Continued to
9b. WAIVER OF CODE RFOUIREMENT August 22, 1994
9c. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO 3706
OWNER: SHELL OIL CO., 511 N. Brookhurst, Anaheim, CA 92803
AGENT: SERVICE STATION SERVICES, 3 Hutton Center Drive, Ste
711, Santa Ana, CA 92707
LOCATION: 3125E Orenaethoroe Avenue Property is
approximately 0.53 acre located at the northeast corner
of Orangethorpe Avenue and Kraemer Boulevard.
To permit a 372-square foot convenience market within an existing
service station.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION NO
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION.
OPPOSITION: None
Commissioner Taft declared a conflict of Interest as defined by Anaheim City Planning
Commission Resolution No. PC76-157 adopting a Conflict of Interest Code for the Planning
~'~ ; Commission and Government Code Section 3625, et seq., in that his firm represents Shell Oil on
this project and pursuant to the provisions of the above Codes, declared to the Chairwoman that
he was withdrawing from the hearing in connection with Condftionai Use Permft No. 3706, and
would not take part in either the discussion or the voting thereon and had not d(scussed this
matter with any member of the Planning Commission. Thereupon Commissioner Tait left the
Council Chamber.
PETITIONER:
Suzanne Hazell, Agent for Shell Oil Company, Service Station Services, 3 Hutton Center
Drive, Santa Ana, CA 92707. She requested a continuance. She stated Shell is taking this
project under further consideration and possibly may be withdrawing the application.
ACTION: Commissioner Henninger offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Caldwell and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Mosse absent and Commissioner Taft declared a conflict of
Interest) that consideration of the aforementioned matter be continued to the regulady-scheduled
meeting of August 22, 1993, in order for the applicant to further consider this project and
possibly to withdraw the application.
RECESS: 3:25P.M.
RECONVENE: 3:35P.M.
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10a. CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION I Approved
10b. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT Denied
10c. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 3707 Granted, in part
OWNER: SHELL OIL CO., 511 N. Brookhurst, Anaheim, CA 92803
AGENT: SERVICE STATION SERVICES, 3 Hutton Center Drive,
Ste. 711, Santa Ana, CA 92707
LOCATION: 2100 South Harbor Boulevaiti. Property is
approximately 0.52 acre Ierzted at the southeast
corner of Orangewood Avenue and Harbor Boulevard
and further described as 2100 South Harbor
Boulevard.
To permit an existing service station with a 1,215-square foot
convenience market with waiver of (a) max(mum number of
permitted freestanding signs and (b) minimum distance between
freestanding signs.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION NC;. PC94107
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION.
"' ~ IN FAVOR: 1 person spoke in favor of subject proposal
OPPOSITION: None
Commissioner Tait declared a conflict of Interest as defined by Anaheim City Planning
Commission Resolution No. PC76-157 adopting a Conflict of Interest Code for the Planning
Commission and Government Code Section 3625, et seq., in that his firm represents Shell Oil
and pursuant to the provisions of the abcve Codos, declared to the Chairman that he was
withdrawing from the hearing in connection wfth Conditional Use Perm(t No. 3707, and would
not take part in either the discussion or the voting thereon and had not discussed this matter
with any member of the Planning Commission. Thereupon Commissioner Taft left the Council
Chamber.
PETITIONER:
Lawrence A. Ross, 26066 Ravina, Mission Viejo, CA. He stated he is the sales manager for
Shell 011. He stated this is Shell's ongoing commitment to upgrade their service stations,
i.e., to take stations that were built as many as 30 years ago and upgrade them in the 90's.
He explained they have an ongoing commitment to each and every City that they market in
to be the best retail marketer in that City. He stated not only signage, but landscaping and
exterior design. He stated he was pleased to hear about Harbor Blvd. anc; Ball Road
because that fs a location that he Is also responsible tor.
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He stated they have an existing service station on the site right now with the bays boarded
~ up. He explained they have also an existing silverado toMUre over the bays and they are
basically used for nothing. They have proposed to tyke the existing site where tum h Into a
lood•mart where the customer can have the opportunity to purchase snack items.
He stated they would not do much modiFlcation to the dxisting she. He stated the plans
show they would be opening it up and that means taking out the boarded up walls and
enhancing the overall appearance of the project.
He stated they have some concerns in the Recommendations. He stated in listening to the
eadidr conversation, he understands they are very pleased wfth the sign located at Harbor
Blvd. and Ball Road. He stated they can INe wfth that and they will shrink down what they
asked for to the exact same sign at Harbor Bivd. and Ball Road. He stated they do have
one concern and that is visibility.
He approached the exhibR board and stated they have asked for an additional sign on the
Orangewood skfe. He explained Orangewood will eventually be a well traveled street and
that Is because they are going to have some improvements down around the 5 Freeway
and that people coming out of Disneyland quite possibly would use that street to get back
onto the freeway and hopefully they will have a little more traffic on that street.
However, K does Ilmit the visibility. He elaborated. He explained the customer would be all
the way up to the str light before they would have any good visibility to the price sign.
He explained further that at that particular point, his options would be limited, I.e., they
could not pull Into their station, they would be beyond that entrance. He stated the small
monument sign would gNe them visibility when they travel up and down Orangewood.
,'" Chairwoman Boydstun asked ff he wanted 2 monument signs?
Mr. Ross stated they would have one monument sign and one small price sign.
Discussion took place regarding the Harbor Bivd. and Ball Road sign.
He stated they would be more than willing to shrink down their request for a taller sign to
an 6-foot monument sign as long as they could have some additional signage so the
customer could see as they come up Orangewood what their product pricing is.
He stated their main goal Is to make It as easy for the customer to choose Shell 011 as they
can and they need to have the price sign available so they can make a purchasing decision
before they get beyond their station.
Chairwoman Boydstun stated they can tell your station is Shell Oil without the sign and
there is no other station on any of the other comers.
P' Ross explained that is correct, but the price is the major consideration for anyone
pu. ;hasing motor oil fuels. He gave some further background.
He stated it is important that the customer knows what they are paying fo; in gasoline
before the customer gets to the station and has an opportunity to make a purchasing
decision.
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He stated regarding planting, the Commission has Shell's full support (n making sure they
f-, will adhere to ail of their conditions as far as image of planting matedal. He thought they
set the standard in most communities they were in and they would be more t~ian happy to
provide them with a plan that would hide the vacuums. He stated they generally go one
step further by using planters and planting the red and yellow flowers that you see at the
Shell stations. He added they will plant the required number of trees and do whatever is
necessary.
He referenced Condition No. 1. He stated this is an ongoing business and he would be
concerned about them not having the opportunity to come back and ask for a beer and
wine permR.
The Commissioners explained fl they wanted that they would have to readvertise this
application and that they could always reflle and come back before the Commission.
IN FAVOR:
Marilyn Ellison, 440 Orangewooa (comer of Orangewood and Acama). She originally came
to the hearing to be against having food in the Shell station but after listening to Mr. Ross
she changed her mind. She explained the Circle K next to the Shell station is a home for
the homeless. She elaborated. She was against the beer and wine, but beer and wine Is
not a consideration here today. She added she came here with a negative and is leaving
here with a positive, therefore, maybe that is good.
Chairwoman Boydstun suggest that Ms. Ellison contact Code Enforcement about her
concerns wfth the Circle K
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
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DISCUSSION:
Jonathan Borcego, Senior Planner, stated there was one person who voiced his concerns
earlier and who was not able to stay. Hls name is Tony Zannini, 2134 Acama Street and he
wanted to state for the record that he was concemed about the trash and debris at the
Circle K.
Chairwoman Boydstun asked staff to contact Code Enforcement to see what could be done
about the Circle K.
Mr. Borrego indicated they could do that.
ACTION: Commissioner Caldwell offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Henninger and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent and Commissioner TaR declared a conflict of
Interest) to approve the CEOA NegatNe Declaration (findings in Paragraph No. 13 of the staff
report).
Commissioner Caldwell offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Henninger and MOTION
CARRIEC (Commissioner Messe absent and Commissioner Tait declared a conflict of interest) to
deny Waiver of Code Requirement on the ba:,~s that waiver (a) was deleted following public ~~
notification and waiver (b) was denir,.rl (findings in Paragraph 20 of staff report).
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Commissioner Henninger offered Resdution No. PC94-107 to grant Condklonal Use Pernik No.
~ 3707, In part, (Commissioner Messe absent and Commissioner Tak declared a conflict of
Interest) (flndings in Paragraph No. 21 of the staff report) subject to Interdepartmental
Cammktee recommended condklons, and wkh the tdiowing added condkians:
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1. That the proposed sign shall be Iimked a monument sign wkh similar dimensions as the
monument sign located at the Shell service station on the northwest comer of Ball Roed
and Harbor Boulevard.
2. That the code required trees shall be planted along the interior property Ilne.
3. That the planter area located northwest of the carwash tunnel shall be enhanced and the
planter adjacent to Orangewood Avenue shall be planted wkh a hedge to screen the car
wash vacuum equipment ftom public view.
VOTE: 5.0 (Commissioner Messe absent and Commissioner Tak declared a conflict of Interest )
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11a. CEOA NEGATIVE DECLARATION I Approved
11b. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT Approved
i tc. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 3705 Granted
OWNER: DIONISIE GOIA AND DANIELA GOIA, 8932 Tracy Avenue,
Garden Grove, CA 92641
AGENT: RAYMOND MARTINEZ, 11152 W. Norwood Avenue,
Riverside, CA 92505-2663
LOCATION: 1771 W. Katella Avenue. Property is approximately
2.04 acres located at the northwest comer of Katella
Avenue and Humor Drive and further described as 1771
West Katella Avenue.
To permit a church with waiver of minimum setback of institutional
uses adjacent to a residential zone boundary.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION N0. PC94-108
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION.
IN FAVOR: Approximately 35 people present in favor of subject petition.
~"" , OPPOSITION: None
PETITIONER:
Raymond Martinez, representing the applicant, 11 t52 Norwood Avenue, Riverside, CA. He
stated he has read through the staff report and there are a couple of ftems he would like to
bring up at this time.
He referenced page no. 3, item no. 10 regarding times of operation. He stated he was not
sure where the misunderstanding occurred. He stated under Sunday services, there was ona
additional afternoon service that was not printed on this form. He added the hours would be
on Sunday afternoon between 6:OOp.m. and S:OOp.m.
He referenced page 6, Item no. 22 (a) regarding activity within the parking area shall cease
by 9:30p.m. He explained it is quite common for people to see each other in the parking lot
on the way in and out of the service. He stated they would like to extend that time from
9:30p.m. to t0:00p.m.
Commissioner Caldwell explained they are trying to make this request compatible with the
surrounding neighbors and people who may be sleeping at 9:30p.m. He stated cars starting
up at 10:OOp.m. and leaving the parking lot could be disruptive. He further explained they are
trying to get everyone out of the parking lot so they can be a good neighbor. He added not
all of the people located behind them will be attending services.
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He stated the only time that would impact them is the evening they have choir practice which
lets out at 9:OOp.m.
/~ Chairwoman Boydstun suggested they make Saturday evening to 10:OOp.m.
Mr. Martinez agreed.
Chairwoman Boydstun clarified that the rest of the week would be 9:30p.m.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
DISCUSSION:
No further discussion took place.
ACTION: Commissioner Peraza offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Henninger and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent) to approve the CEOA NegatNs
Declaration (findings in Paragraph 14 of the staff report).
Commissioner Peraza offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Henninger and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent) to approve Waiver of Code
Requirement (findings in Pamgraph 19 of the staff report).
Commissioner Peraza offered Resolution No. PC94-108 to grant Conditional Use
Permft No. 3705 (findings in Paragraph 20 of the staff report) subject to
Intercepartmental Committee recommended conditions, and wfth the fdlowing added
condtlons:
~~^; 1. That the actNfty in the parking lot shall cease at 9:30 p.m., Sunday through
Frkiay, and at 10:00 p.m. on Saturdays.
2. That subject use shall be Iimrted to the following hours of operation:
Sunday: 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon and 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.
Saturday: 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.
Tuesday and Thursday: 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.
3. That eight (6) addftional 15-gallon trees shall be planted along the north property
line. SakJ trees shall be of the same variety which currently exfts at said location.
It is noted by the Planning Commission Secretary that Condftlon no. 2 will remain as ft Is.
Jonathan Borrego, Senior Planner, stated this has been discussed with the petftioner during the
Interdepartmental Committee Meeting and that the petftioner was to work wfth the Traffic
Engineer to work out some of the drNe aisle concerns that they had.
Chairwoman Boydstun asked for clariflcaflon ff they removed the 4 end parking spaces?
Mr. Borrego nxplained that was one of their options and he felt confklent that they could work
around that based on their excess parking and the existing wkJth of the parking stalls.
VOTE: 6-0 (Commissioner Messe absent)
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12a. CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION
12b. RECLASSIFICATION N0. 9495.02
12c. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT
12c. rONDITIONAI. USE PERMIT N0.3708
OWNER: JOHN H. ROCHE JR. AND MILDRED G. ROCHE, P.O.
Box 2760, La Habra, CA 90632
AGENT: PAUL KOTT AND BOB KIRK, 1225 W. Lincoln Ave.,
Anaheim, CA 92805
LOCATION: 874 S. Anaheim Blvd. Property is approximately 0.16
acre located on the east side of Anaheim Boulevard and
located approximately 265 feet south of the centerline of
Valencia Avenue and furher described as 874 South
Anaheim Boulevard.
To reclassify subject property from the RM-1200 (Residential, Multfple-
Family) Zone to the CL (Commercial, Limfted) Zone.
To permit a construction company ofOce headquarters within an
existing 1,134-square foot residential structure and detached garage
with waiver of required site screening.
RECLASSIFICATION RESOLUTION N0. PC94109
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION N0. PC94110
Approved
Granted
Approved
Granted
Note:
Reclass was
granted
unconditionally
FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION.
OPPOSITION: None
PETITIONER:
Paul Kott, 1225 W. Lincoln Avenue, Anaheim, CA. He is requasting to reclassify the
property at 874 S. Anaheim Blvd., which is currently an older single-family dwelling and has
been sold contingent upon the ability to place a small 4 employee construction company
on the she. They are asking for a reciassrtlcation from the RM-1200 to CL which would be
consistent with the 3eneral Plan. They are also asking for a waiver for the 6-foot high wall
between the project and the property next door.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
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DISCUSSION:
Chalrvvoman Boydstun stated they had a letter from the property owner to the south
~ wondering ff they could put in strips to screen the existing fence and from the alley skle so
ft is screened from the apartments.
Mr. Kott indicated that would be fine. They thought putting up a block wall would Impose a
hardship on the property because it is inconsistent with what has been proposed in the
area.
Chairwoman Boydstun explained they were planning on putting in a parking lot, so ft will be
landscaped. Further discussion took place regarding this Issue.
Commissioner Henninger stated he would like to add some language to Condftion No. 1
regarding outdoor storage. He suggested they add the word 'materials.'
ACTION:
Commissioner Peraza offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Caldwell and MOTION
CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent) to approve the CEQA Negative Declaration
(f(ndings in Paragraph 13 of the staff report).
Commissioner Peraza offered Resolution No. PC94-109 (Commissioner Messe absent) to
grant Reclassification No. 94.95-02 uncondftiana!ly.
Commissioner Peraza offered a motion, secondec'i by Commissioner Henninger and
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Messe absent) to approve the WaNer of Code
Requirement (findings in Paragraph 17, (a) and (b)).
Commissioner Peraza offered Resolution No. PC94-110 (Commissioner Messe absent) to
('~~~; grant Condftional Use Permft No. 3708 (findings in Paragraph 18 of the staff report) subject
to Interdepartmental Committee recommended conditions, and with the folowing
modification:
1. That the outdoor storage of construction equipment, materials or vehicles shall be
prohibfted.
Added the following condftlon of approval:
2. That the chainlink fence shall be slatted wfth PVC slats along the entire south sloe of the
property.
VOTE: 6-0 (Commissioner Messe absent)
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13. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS:
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0.2686 FOR SUBSTAMTlAL Found plans to be in
CONFORMANCE DETERMINATION: Burger King Restaurant, substantial conformance
1201 S. Anaheim Blvd., Anaheim, CA 92805 requests with originally approved
substantial conformance determination for revised exhibfts for plans
Condftional Use Permit No. 2686 (to permit two (2) drive-
through restaurants and an outdoor children's play area). Asked staff to make sure
Property (s located at 1201 i. Anaheim Bivd. all appropriate building
permits were issued.
DISCUSSION:
Aman Sattar, 26082 Kiacresta, (street name phonetically spelled), Mission Viejo, CA. He
stated he is the franchisee for the Burger King restaurant at 1201 S. Anaheim Blvd. He
explained recently they upgraded the playground by removing the old equipment. He
stated it :=:as in the view of Burger King Corporation that some of the metal playground
equipment gets very hot in the summer time and small children can get burned. In addition
the children could be Injured on the moving carousel.
He further explained he had been planning to renovate his playground for the past 3 years,
but due to the recession he was unable to do so. He stated at the beginning of this year
they finalized plans to go ahead with the renovation of the playground. He stated he has
Invested approximately $40,000 to install state-of-the-art playground equipment which is
made of soft plastics and takes care of all of the previously mentioned hazards involved.
He stated this playground not only gives a facelHt to his business, but also the surrounding
businesses would benefit from a good appearance on that side of the road. In addition, it
also provides for the children in the community a place to come and enjoy the evenings or
weekends.
Commissioner Henninger stated it was a nice improvement.
Mr. Sattar commented on the Code Enforcement investigation. He stated he went to the
Planning counter in February to Inquire ff any permits were required to remove the existing
equipment and put in new equipment. He explained he was informed that no such permit
would be required.
He stated, in addition, in the month of May he spoke with the equlpment supplier to verffy ff
he had heard correctly and the equipment supplier was told the same thing. He stated in
June he was given a citation that he nseded a permit and that is why he is here.
Chairwoman Boydstun asked for clarification if he enlarged the area?
Mr. Sattar explained he did not, only the equipment was replaced.
Chairwoman Boydstun stated she did not understand why he was here.
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Commissioner Mayer stated she passed on a request from a cftizen to Code Enforcement
^ to check into ft because ft is a 2-story Improvement and ft does not have a fall zone. She
stated the concern was that there was a wrought iron fence. She stated ft was single story
equipment before and now ft is 2-story equipment and a child could fall onto the wrought
Iron fence. She further explained ft was brought to her attention that there should be a fall
zone. She added simply passed on the request for Code Enforcement to look Into ft.
Commissioner Henninger stated he did not want the Cfty in the middle of this Ilabilfty Issue.
He asked ff the City checks to see ff there is a fall zone, etc.
Jonathan Borrego, Senior Planner, stated he had a discussion with a Code Enforcement
Officer in regards to this ftem and she was under the impression that some of the portions
of the equipment dki actually need building permfts. He explained in that process he is
assuming that they look at the safety aspect of it. However, to his knowledge there had
been no contact wfth the Building DNislon and ft was his understanding that the Building
Division would need to review this. In addftion ft would also need to be reviewed for
handicapped accessibility.
Commissioner Henninger stated then the recommendation could include a requirement that
they review what they have done wfth the Building Department to make sure ft meets all
applicable Codes.
Mr. Borrego indicated that was correct.
Commissioner Mayer stated she thought ft was a beautfful structure--they Just may need to
move the fence out or put a capping on the fence so ft is not sharp points.
l Mr. Satter state< si:~':ar playgrounds have been installed in other Burger Kings around the
area. He eluded '.:, one in La Habra wfth similar equipment. He was not certain ff the area
was the same.
Commissioner Mayer stated ft was not the equipment but the fall zone in case a child falls
out of the equipment.
Commissioner Henninger asked ff the manufacturer has delivered a letter to him saying
thAy approve of the Installation? Typically the manufacturers of that type of equipment
carry a IIabIIKy insurance and in order to protect himself he probably should get from them
a letter that says they approve of the installation and that ft meets their requirements and
therefore qualffies for their liability Insurance.
Mr. Satter stated he was not sure that they would gNe him any such letter. He stated he
did receive a letter of completion from them requesting the payment.
Commissioner Henninger asked ff the manufacturer Installed the equipment?
Mr. Satter explained they were contracted to supply and install.
Commissioner Henninger stated then ft probably does meet their requirements. He
suggested he look Into that and that ft meets the Ciry's Code n3quirements.
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Mr. Satter stated this area is totally enclosed. He stated k may be high, but k is so
~ designed that there are no exks except when the child comes out from the bell pod or the
slkfe. There is no reason why any child should trip or fall out ftom anywhere else. He
explained at the exk they have a rubber padding.
Commissioner Caldwell stated they are not making a determination for the safety. This Is a
land use request.
Mr. Borrego agreed and stated the request Is only that the equipment kself is consistent
wkh the equipment that was previously approved under the dd CUP.
Commissioner Henninger asked staff to asK the Building Department to make sure that all
of the appropriate pennks have been obtained.
Mr. Satter stated they do carry Ilabilky Insurance. He added they will do all k takes to
conform to the Cfty requirements.
14. OTHER DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Henninger inquired about the Sign Ordinance.
Mr. Borrego explained they have had meetings and have looked at some preliminary
requirements. He stated he had a conversation wkh his Supervisor and he will be pulling
himself out of the Planning Commiss(on loop for a couple of meetings to get the Sign
Ordinance expedked. He further stated they are progressing and have surveyed other
~,~ , ckies. He stated based on what happened today they see the need to get moving on this
F _.: issue and they will do so. He estimated they would have some preliminary standards for
the Commission to review by the last meeting in September.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:25 P.M.
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