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Council Chamber, City Hall
200 South Anaheim Boulevard
Anaheim, California
Commissioners Present:
Commissioners Absent:
Staff Present:
CJ Amstrup, Planning Services'Manager
Linda Johnson, Principal Planner
Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney
Scott Koehm, Associate Planner
Elaine Thienprasiddhi, Associate Pianner
Chairman: Joseph Karaki
Peter Agarwal, Kelly Buffa, Gail Eastman,
Stephen Faessel, Victoria Ramirez, Panky Romero
None
Kimberly Wong, Ptanner
Raul Garcia, Principal Civil Engineer
David Kennedy, Associate Transportation Planner
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary
Agenda Posting: A complete copy of the Planning Commission Agenda was posted at 2:00 p.m.
on Wednesday, March 25, 2009, inside the display case located in the foyer of the Council
Chamber, and also i~ the outside display kiosk.
Published: Anaheim Bulletin Newspaperon Thursday, March 19, 2009
• Trash Collection Circulation Workshop - Rescheduled to May 11, 2009
• Call to Order - 2:30 p.m.
• Attendance: 12 . _
• Pledge of Allegiance by Commissioner Ramirez
• Public Comments
• Consent Calendar
• Public Hearing Items
• Adjournment
MARCH 30, 2009
PLAMNIPIG COMMISSIOfd MINUTES
Anaheim Planning Commission Agenda - 2:30 P.M.
Public Comments: None
ITENI 1A
Receiving and approving the Minutes from the Planning flflotion to approve Aflinutes
Commission Meeting of March 16, 2009. These minutes have (Faessel/Eastman)
been provided to the Planning Commission and are available
for review at the Planning Department. Approved
VOTE: 7-0
ITEM td0.1B
COPIDITIONAL USE PERMIT P10. 2007-05195 Motion to Approve
(Trackin4 No. CUP2009-05421) Time Extens!ion
(Buffa/Eastman)
Owner: BP West Coast Products, LLC
4 Centerpoint Drive
La Palma, CA 90623 Approved
Applicant: Fred Cohen, CJC Design
1205 North Red Gum Street, Unit A VOTE: 7-0
Anaheim, CA 92806
Location: 1700 West La Palma Avenue and 1017-1031
North Euclid Avenue: This property is located at -
the southwest corner of La Palma Avenue and
Euclid Street.
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Environmental Determination: A Negative Declaration, which
was previously-approved, has been determined to serve as the
appropriate environmental documentation for this project in
accordance with the provisions of the California Environmental
Quality Act (CEQA).
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ITEM IVO. 2
COMDITIOfdAL USE PERMIT NO. 2008-05398
Owner. Beth Emet Temple
1770 West Cerritos Avenue
Anaheim, CA 92804
Applicant: Jason Kozora
Omnipoint Communications and
Trillium Consulting
3 MacArthur Court, Suite 1100
Santa Ana, CA 92707
Location; 1770 Vllest Cerritos Avenue: This property is
located approximately 522 feet east of Old Fashion
W ay.
The applicant proposes to install a telecommunications facility
disguised as a palm tree with a height of 50 feet where 30 feet
is permitted by Code.
Environmental Determination: A Negative Declaration has been
prepared which evaluates the potential environmental impacts
of this project in accordance with the provisions of the Califomia
Environmental Quality Act (CEQA).
OPPOSITIOId: None
DISCUSSIOIV TIOflE: This item was not discussed.
Withdrawn by the Applicant
(No Action Required)
Project Planner.
Kimberly Wong
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ITEM NO. 3
ZONING GODE AAAENDflAENT NO. 2009-00079 Motion to Continue to
April 13, 2009
Appficant: Planning Department (Eastman/Romero)
City of Anaheim
200 South Anaheim Boulevard Approved
Anaheim, CA 92805
VOTE: 7-0
Location: Citvwide
Request to amend Chapter 1,12 (Procedures); Chapter 14.60 ProjectPlanner.
(Transportation Demand); Chapter 17.08 (Subdivisions); vanessa Norwood
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apter 18.18 (Scenic Corridor (SC) Overlay ZoneJ; Chapter
18.24 (South Anaheim Boulevard Corridor (SABC) Overlay
Zone); Chapter 18.36 (Types of Uses); Chapter 18.38
(Supplemental Use Regulations); Chapter 18.42 (Parking and
Loading); Chapter 18.44 (3igns); Chapter 18.46 (Landscaping
and Screening); Chapter 18.56 (Nonconformities); Chapter
18.60 (Procedures); Chapter 18.62 (Administrative Reviews);
Chapter 18.64 (Area Development Plans); Chapter 18.66
(Conditional Use Permits); Chapter 18.74 (Variances); Chapter
18.92 (Definitions);Chapter 18.114 (Disneyland Resort Specific
Plan No.92-1); Chapter 18.118 (Anaheim Resort Specific Plan
No.92-2); Chapter 18.118 (Hotel Circle Specific Plan No.93-1);
pertaining to Zoning Administrator authority, drought tolerant
landscaping provisions, freestanding sign provisions within the
Scenic Corridor (SC) Overlay Zone and approval/appeal
procedures for various zoning actions.
Environmental Determination: The proposed action is exempt
from the Califomia Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) under
Section 21080 of the Public Resources Code.
This item was continued from the March 16, 2009 Planning
Commission meeting.
OPPOSITION: None
DISCUSSIOM TIME: This item was not discussed.
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ITEfiA NO. 4
RECLASSIFICATION NO. 2008-00221
CONDITIOPIAL USE PERMIT NO. 2008-05362
TEPITATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 17289
Owner: RRM Properties, Ltd
P.O. Box 3600
Corona, CA 92882
Applicant: Ted Frattone
Hunsaker and Associates
3 Hughes
Irvine, CA 92618
Location: The property is located generally south of the State
Route 91 Riverside Freeway, approximately 3,600
feet southeast of the intersection of Santa Ana
Canyon Road and Gypsum Canyon Road and
approximately 1,000 ft east-southeast of the SR-91
and SR-241 interchange.
The applicant proposes to reclassify the property from the
Multiple-Family Residential (RM-3) zone to the Single-Family
Residential (RS-4) zone and construct 56 single-family
residential dwelling units. The applicant also proposes to
subdivide the property into 56 single-family detached residential
lots and 12 lettered lots.
Environmental Determination: A Mitigated Negative Declaration
has been prepared to serve as the appropriate environmental
documentation for this project in accordance with the provisions
of the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA).
Resolution Plo. PC2009-043
Resolution Plo. PC2009-044
Resolution Mo. PC2009-045
(Eastman)
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Approved
C'UP
Approved, modifled
Condition No. 57
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Approved, added new
condition pertaining to
modifying the maximum
height of residential units
shown on the map.
VOTE: 7-p
Project Planner:
Scott Koehm
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Scott Koehm, Associate Planner, provided a summary of the staff report dated March 30, 2009 along
with a visual presentation. Mr. Koehm also read into the record an additional condition of approval as
follows: "The map shall be amended to indicate that the maximum height for the residential units shall
be 25 feet, unless another approval of maximum height is subsequently granted."
Mr. Koehm also provided the following information in response to questions submitted by the
Commission prior to the meeting:
• Reclassification findings - These findings are set forth in Title 18 and read as follows: "The
title may be amended by changing the boundaries of zones or districts to implement the
General Plan to enha~ce and preserve the general welfare by following procedures in the
Chapter." The proposed RS-4 zone impleme~ts the low medium density designation on the
property.
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• Current Status of Mountain Park - Construction of the Mountain Park project is on hold and not
anticipated to be developed for at least five years. This project would be constructed
concurrently with or after Mountain Park is developed because of grading, access to the site
and infrastructure.
• Lettered Lots - These lots are part of the tentative tract map and are typically used to
designate open space lots and private streets.
• Compatibility with the Mountain Park project - Housing plans have not been submitted with
these project actions, however, the development standards for this project are consistent with
the standards adopted for the adjacent Mountain Park single-family neighborhood.
• Condition No. 1 in the Reclassification Resolution - This condition requires the applicant to
indemnify the City in the event that there is litigation on the project and the environmental
determination.
• Landscape exhibits - These exhibits provide cross-sections showing typical fuel modification
design for the slopes.
• Condition of Approval No. 58 of the Tentative Tract Map - This condition requires the applicant
to obtain approval from the City Engineer if any development is proposed on this site prior to
the development of the Mountain Park project. This is because the environmental
documentation for this project did not anticipate this project being constructed prior to the
Mountain Park development. Additional environmental documentation would also need to be
completed.
• Fuel Modification Areas - These areas provide a buffer zone between homes and the adjacent
open space area. These are areas where combustible landscape material has been modified
and replaced with drought tolerant, low fuel volume plants to create more fire defensible space
around residences.
Commissioner Buffa asked about the number for the new condition for the tentative tract map
Mr. Koehm responded that the new condition pertaining to height would be added as Condition No.
27 and the following conditions would be renumbered.
Commissioner Buffa asked about the status of the fuel modification easement and asked what type of
assurance there is that the State will grant this easement.
Mr. Koehm said that the applicant has been working with the State to obtain this easement.
Attachment No. 6 to the staff report includes an email from the California Department of Parks and
Recreation, confirming that the State and the applicant are in the final stages of working on the
easement agreement.
Commissioner Buffa asked for clarification on the rear yard setback for two story structures.
Mr. Koehm responded that the setback would be 15 feet. He said the applicant has indicated that
only two-story homes are proposed in this development, however, housing plans have not been
submitted yet.
Commissioner Buffa asked staff to confirm that the project will comply with this setback requirement
Mr. Koehm responded yes.
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Chairman Karaki opened the public hearing.
Ted Frattone, 3 Hughes, Irvine, with Hunsaker and Associates, representing the applicant, introduced
the project team and provided a visual presentation. He described the project and said access to the
site would be provided from the Mountain Park development. He said the design of the project would
be consistent and compatible with the adjacent Mountain Park project. He also described the
proposed fuel modification easement area which would cover five acres adjacent to the project site on
property owned by the State of California. He said only three of these acres would be thinned for fuel
modification. He further stated RRM currently has an approximate seven acre access easement from
this property, through Chino Hills State Park to Coal Canyon Road. RRM is working with the State to
exchange the existing access easement for the fuel modification easement area adjacent to this
property.
Commissioner Faessel asked whether this project would be incorporating the new fire prevention
regulations, including inside fire sprinklers.
Mc Frattone, responded that a Fire Prevention Plan has been prepared for the project and all
structures will include automatic fire sprinkler systems inside. He said the plans would be prepared in
compliance with the new 7A Fire code requirements unless through a Fire Prevention Plan process,
the requirements are reduced with the implementation of other mitigation.
Chairman Karaki closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Buffa asked about Condition No. 57 and said the list of items required to reduce water
includes some items that would be more applicable to a commercial development.
Mr. Koehm said the measure is the same measure approved for the Mountain Park development and
this measure would be revised to delete the items that would be appiicable to commercial
developments.
Commission Buffa asked why Condition No. 24 was highlighted.
Linda Johnson, Principal Planner, stated the highlighting on Condition No. 24 will be removed.
Commissioner Romero asked about the feasibility of implementing Condition No. 58. --
Mr. Koehm responded this condition was placed on the tentative tract map in the event that the
applicant wanted to request development of this property prior to the Mountain Park project
proceeding. He said it was unlikely that development would proceed on this tract prior to the
development of the Mountain Park project due to cost
Chairman Karaki stated the applicant was shaking his head no, indicating he did not want to proceed
in advance of Mountain Park.
Commissioner Eastman stated she was happy that the land swap and access issue had been worked
out.
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Commissioner Faessel stated that he was glad that The Irvine Company and the applicant have
come to terms with access to both parties satisfaction.
Commissioner Agarwal stated he was glad things worked out for this development and was looking
forward to the development of this project.
Chairman Karaki commended the applicant on presenting this project. He also stated a concem
about the frequency of fires in the hillside area and said he hoped the applicant would address fire
concerns and implement fire precautions and measures, including an escape route, with this project.
Commissioner Eastman offered a recommendation that the Planning Commission adopt the
resolutions attached to the March 30, 2009 staff report, approving a Mitigated Negative Declaration
and approving Reclassification No. 2008-00221, Conditional Use Permit No. 2008-05362 and
Tentative Tract Map No. 17289, with the additional conditional of approval as read into record by Mr.
Koehm.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced that the resolutions passed with seven aye votes.
OPPOSITIOPI: None
Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney, presented the 10-day appeal rights for the Tentative Tract Map
ending Thursday, April 9, 2009, and the 22-day appeal rights for the Reclassification and Conditional
Use Permit ending at 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday, April 21, 2009.
DISCUSSION TIflAE: 36 minutes (2:34 to 3:06)
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ITEAA NO. 5
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP P10. 2008-188
VARIANCE MO. 2009-04773
Owner: Anaheim Redevelopment Agency
201 South Anaheim Boulevard, Suite 1003
Anaheim, CA 92805
Applicant: Truxaw & Associates
265 South Anita Drive, Suite 111
Orange, CA 92868
Location: 929 PJorth Ivv Lane: This property has a frontage of
100 feet on the south side of Fir Avenue and 100
feet on the north side of Ivy Lane, approximately 150
feet southwest of the intersection of Fir Avenue and
Ivy Lane.
The applicant proposes to subdivide the property into four single-
family residential parcels with a variance of required lot width, lot
depth and exterior sound attenuation requirements adjacent to
the Interstate 5 Freeway.
Environmental Determination: A Negative Declaration has been
prepared to serve as the appropriate environmental
documentation for this project in accordance with the provisions
of the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA)
Resolution PJo. PC2009-46
Resolution No. PC2009-47
(Agarwal)
Approved
TPAA
Approved, modified
Condition fdo. 5. Added
new conditions pertaining
to a maintenance
covenant, and a private
sewer easement
VAR
Approved
VOTE: 6-1
Chairman Karaki and
Commissioners Agarwal,
Buffa, Eastman, Faessel
and Romero voted yes;
Commissioner Ramirez
voted no
Project Planner:
Kimberly Wong
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Kimberly Wong, Planner, provided a summary of the staff report dated March 30, 2009 along with a
visual presentation.
Ms. Wong also provided the foflowing information in response to questions submitted by the
Commission prior to the meeting:
Construction of a 25-foot tall wall would potentialiy have shadelshadow impacts because it
would be equivalent to the height of a two-story building. It would also potentially be cost-
prohibitive to construct a wall at this height. Coordination with the California Department of
Transportation (CalTrans) would also be needed because the wall is on CalTrans property.
One of the required findings for approval of a subdivision map addresses whether there would
be an impact to fish and wildlife. Since this property was previously developed with homes
and does not include any sensitive habitats, staff does not believe there would be any negative
impacts to fish and wildlife.
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O Staff is supportive of the variance pertaining to minimum lot width because other properties in
the community have similar lot widths and the density of the project is consistent with the
General Plan and the neighborhood.
Prior to the widening of the freeway, there were parcels that had frontage along Catalpa
Avenue with rear yards adjacent to the freeway. The Environmental Impact Report certified in
connection with the I-5 Freeway widening project stated the rear yards of these properties had
a noise level of 66 dBA at that time.
• Staff has not reviewed any construction plans for the new homes. The developer has
indicated that the design of the homes would not require any additional variance requests.
Ms. Wong also read into the record a modification to the Tentative Parcel Map resolution, Condition
No. 5 and additional conditions of approval pertaining to a maintenance covenant and a private sewer
easement as follows:
Modification to Condition No. 5- An improvement certificate shall be placed on the final map to
relocate all irrigation related improvements currently within the boundary of proposed Parcel 2 as
directed by the City Engineer prior to issuance of building permits for future building or site
development plans.
• Additional Condition - A maintenance covenant shall be submitted to the Public Works
Department, Development Services division and approved by the City Attorney's Office. The
covenant shall include provisions for the maintenance of private sewer facilities and a
maintenance exhibit. The covenant shall be recorded concurrently with the final map.
Additional Condition - Final Parcel Map No. 2008-188 shall include a private sewer easement
over Parcel 2 to serve Rarcels 1, 3 and 4, and over Parcel 4 to serve Parcels 1 and 3.
Commissioner Faessel asked staff to describe the decibel level for properties adjacent to the I-5
freeway prior to the widening of the freeway.
Ms. Wong responded the EIR for the I-5 Freeway widening stated the properties adjacent to the
freeway had an exterior noise level of 66 dBA. °-
Commissioner Faessel asked staff to clarify why the additional condition related to the sewer
easement was needed.
Raul Garcia, Principal Civil Engineer responded that the condition was worded as such because the
prospective developer did not agree to pay the fair share impact fee to increase the 6-inch sewer line
on Fir and Ivy. They prefer to do their own connection and connect to the existing 10-inch sewer line.
The previous 5 home~s connected to a 10-inch sewer line that CalTrans slurried, backfilled or blocked
during the widening, making it unavailable. The developer has two options: connection to the two
existing 6-inch lines and would have to pay their fair share for the upsize and improvements; or, they
could go with a private sewer easement.
Cornmissioner Eastman asked how the private sewer easement would work.
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Mr. Garcia responded the easement would provide for a sewer pipe to be installed between the four
parcels which would connect to the sewer pipe on Fir Avenue.
Commissioner Eastman asked where the pipe would be located.
Mc Garcia responded the pipe would be located between Parcels 2 and 4. Parcels 1 and 3 would
connect to that sewer line and that sewer line would connect to the northwest and connect to the 10-
inch line. Essentially, all three properties will connect where all parcel lines cross at the middle of the
project and they would run south over to the west. The sewer easement would be between Parcel 2
and 4 and along the southerly boundary of Parcel 2, at the edge.
Commissioner Agarwal asked why the code required a 150-foot lot depth adjacent to a freeway.
Ms. Wong responded this development standard is only for lots adjacent to a freeway, not all
properties in the single-family residential zone have a minimum lot depth requirement. There are
special provisions in the code for properties adjacent to an arterial highway which requires a minimum
lot depth of 120 feet and adjacent to a freeway requires a lot depth of 150 feet. The purpose of this
development standard is to require an increased distance from a major circulation point and to
minimize the side and rear yard noise levels.
Commissioner Agarwal asked whether the sound study took into account the 65 or 150 foot depth.
Ms. Wong responded that the sound study measured the sound at points where the potential rear
yard would be. They measured the current noise level and what it would be in the future, based on
projected freeway traffic counts.
Commissioner Agarwal asked if the sound level would be higher once the houses are constructed.
Ms. Wong responded the actual sound level in the rear yards would depend upon the design and
configuratian of the homes.
Commissioner Romero asked how much natural attenuation happens between 65-and 150 feet and if
a study was conducted.
Ms. Wong indicated a study was not conducted and that the sound engineer would be available for
questions during the public hearing.
Commissioner Ramirez asked for clarification where 25 feet would be measured if the developer is
envisioning two-story homes.
Ms. Wong stated the developer is envisioning two-story homes a~d per the sound study, the 7 feet
would need to be added to the sound wall.
Commissioner Ramirez stated she visited the site and the freeway sound is loud.
Chairman Karaki opened the public hearing.
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Jeff Leeper, Colony Developers, LLC, 314 Iris Avenue, Corona Del Mar, applicant, stated the intent of
this proposal is to replace the previous homes with new, affordable homes.
Commissioner Ramirez asked the applicant if the sound level requirements could be met if fewer
homes were constructed.
Mr. Leeper responded no.
Commissioner Faessel asked the applicant if the units are proposed to be affordable.
Mr. Leeper responded the proposed price range would be more affordable than market rate homes,
but they do not plan on entering into an agreement for affordable housing with the Redevelopment
Agency.
Commissioner Eastman asked if the proposed homes would be similar to others built by Colony
Developers.
Mr. ~eeper responded the homes would be identical to the homes constructed on Broadway and
Santa Ana Street, with the exception that the living rooms would be approximately 160 square feet
larger in these homes.
Chairman Karaki closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Faessel recognized the need to add housing, but stated it was unfortunate this parcel
could not be used for park space since the parcel is owned by the Redevelopment Agency with the
goal of deriving a public benefit. He thought the developer had done a good job in managing what
was given to him.
Commissioner Eastman agreed that the City could use more park space. Knowing the developer's
track record, she stated that the developer had done a good job and this project would be of benefit to
the neighborhood.
Commissioner Romero stated he was aware of the need for housing, but was concerned about the
excessive noise levels on this site. He believed it came down to a quality of life issue.
Commissioner Buffa stated she thought this proposal an appropriate use of the land. She stated this
project will provide a choice for four families. While there may be a tradeoff in noise in the backyard
for not having neighbors upstairs. The advantage for these families is that they are aware of what
they are getting when they purchase the house as opposed to families who have lived in the
neighborhood longer and have had the freeway creep to them.
Chairman Karaki stated he hoped that future homes would be equipped with solar energy panels and
promote modern technology to compensate for the location of the homes.
Commissioner Agarwal offered a recommendation that the Planning Commission adopt the
resolutions attached to the March 30, 2009 staff report, determining that a Negative Declaration is the
appropriate envirortmental documentation for this request, approving Tentative Parcel Map No. 2008-
188 with a modification to Condition No. 5 and the addition of conditions of approval pertaining to a
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maintenance covenant and a private sewer easement, and approving Variance No. 2009-04773 as
read into record by Ms. Wong.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced that the resolution passed with six aye votes and one no
vote. Chairman Karaki and Commissioners Agarwal, Buffa, Eastman, Faessel and Romero voted yes
and Commissioner Ramirez voted no.
OPPOSITION: None
Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney, presented the 10-day appeal°rights for the Tentative Parcel
Map e~ding Thursday, April 9, 2009 and the 22-day appeal rights for the Variance ending at 5:00 p.m.
on Tuesday, April 21, 2009.
DISCUSSIOM TIME: 29 minutes (3:06 to 3:35)
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PLAPINING COMMISSIOfd MIPJUTES
ITEnA NO. 6
ZONIPIG CODE AMENDMENT fVO. 2009-00078
Applicant: Christiane Dussa
DMJM
999 Towne and Country
Orange, CA 92868
Location: Citywide
The applicant proposes an amendment to Title 18 of the Anaheim
Municipal Code to allow properties larger than five acres to display
up to four flags or banners, including a flag for non-fraternal
organizations.
Environmental Determination: The proposed action is
categorically exempt from the requirement to prepare additional
environmental documentation per California Environmental Quality
Act (CEQA) Guidelines, Class 4(Minor Alterations to Land).
Motion to Continue to
April 27, 2009
(Faessel/Buffa)
Approved
VOTE: 7-0
Project Planner:
Kimberly Wong
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Kimberly Wong, Planner, provided a summary of the staff report dated March 30, 2009 along with a
visual presentation.
Commissioner Eastman stated that one of the existing flags on the property on Harbor Boulevard
showed a company logo. If the application is denied, will they have to remove the large flag pole or
will they move the pole closer to the building?
Ms. Wong clarified the applicanYs intent is specifically for the Anaheim Boulevard property for the
new office building, not the business' property on Harbor Boulevard.
Commissioner Eastman asked if the applicant wanted to have two flag poles with United States flags
and maintain the current flag with the company logo.
Ms. Wong responded yes.
Commissioner Eastman said she had seen flags with a corporate logo at other properties in the city.
Commissioner Faessel referred to the slide in the presentation showing the flag pole requirements
and asked if another business in the city like Extron would be to permitted to display a flag with a
corporate logo, would that violate the code.
Ms. Wong responded yes.
Commissioner Agarwal asked if there was a distinction between a flag with a corporate logo and a
stationary sign on a property.
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Ms. Wong read into the record the sign code definition for a freestanding sign as follows: "...a single
or double faced sign mounted on a single pole as distinguished from a single or double faced sign
supported by no more than two pylons".
Mark Gordon, Assistant City Attorney added that the definition of "sign" is very expansive and may
include a declaration, decoration, graphic announcement, inflatable device, illumination, etc.
Chairman Karaki opened the public hearing.
Theresa Fodon, 1807 Harle Avenue, stated she was a 40-year resident of Anaheim. She asked
when the code had changed to prohibit a business to display a flag with a corporate logo.
Ms. Wong said she would need to research what the code stated previously; however, because this is
a new development, all grandfathering status was non-existent.
Chairman Karaki closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Buffa stated she would not support the code amendment as proposed since it would
not limit the number of company flags displayed.
Commissioner Romero agreed that allowing a flag with a business logo would be a more appropriate
change to the code than having four flags.
Commissioner Eastman asked if in a large parcel, would a fourth flag pple be allowed?
Ms. Wong responded the proposed code amendment would permit a fourth flag pole based on
property size.
Commissioner Eastman asked whether multi;ple flags on properties, which are not advertising
ba~ners, are allowed.
Ms. Wong responded that these types of flags are referred to as "feather flags". They are often
located in public rights-of-way and are prohibited. The Code allows businesses to obtain a Special
Event Permit to have banners affixed only to a building wall.
Commissioner Faessel stated he concurred with Commissioner Buffa that the Commission needs to
look at this issue and that he did not support the amendment as proposed.
Commissioner Buffa stated an additional objection is that the amendment would require the tallest
flag pole to be twice the height as the next tallest pole which is not appropriate.
Chairman Karaki stated he was not in favor of four flags. He did not believe that having a corporate
flag would be advertising. He believed flying the corporate flag next to the American flag reflected the
company's pride. He would like to see the code amended to allow one of the three flags to be a
corporate flag instead of adding a fourth flag pole.
Chairman Karaki offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Eastman, to amend the code to allow
a flag with a business name and/or logo to be flown on one of the three permitted flag poles.
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Commissioner Faessel stated that a height variation should be included in the amendment.
Commissioner Buffa asked if the motion should be amended to allow corporate flags to be flown on
properties with a minimum size.
Chairman Karaki agreed that there should be a minimum property size, but did not have sufficient
information to decide the size at this time.
Commissioner Romero asked if the Planning Commission needed to take action on this item at this
meeting.
CJ Amstrup, Planning Services Manager, responded that the Planning Commission could continue
the item to a subsequent Planning Commission meeting. He understood the Planning Commission
would like to see a revised ordinance maintaining three permitted flag poles, but allowing one of the
permitted flags to display a company name and/or logo and not requiring the doubling of height
between the tallest and next tallest flag pole. He also understood there was still some discussion
about whether there should be a minimum property size for flying a company flag and/or logo. He
also stated the applicant was not present at the meeting and a continuance would allow them to
participate in the full hearing.
Commissioner Faessel stated based upon staff`s understanding of the Commission's discussion,
would recommend that the item be continued to the next meeting.
Chairman Karaki withdrew his motion.
Commissioner Faessel offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Buffa, to continue the item to
the April 27, 2009 Planning Commission meeting.
Grace Medina, Senior Secretary announced that the motion passed with seven aye votes.
OPPOSITION: None - -
DISCUSSION TIflAE: 22 minutes (3:35 to 3:57)
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MARCH 30, aoos
PLANNIfdG COMMISSIOPI MIPIUTES
MEETIfdG ADJOURNED AT 4:00 P.M.
TO MOPIDAY, APRIL 13, 2009 AT 2:30 P.M.
RespectFully submitted,
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Grace Medina
Senior Secretary
Received and approved by the Planning Commission on April 13, 2009.
03/30/09
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