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Minutes-PC 1999/04/12SUMMARY ACTION AGENDA CITY OF ANAHEIM PL~NNING COIVIMISSION MEETlN~ MONDAY, APRlL 12, 1999 10:30 A.M. • CEQA UPDATE BY CITY ATTORNEY/PLANNIN~ STAFF (RESCHEDULED TO 5-10-99 AT 10:30 A.M.) 11:00 A.M. • STAFF UPDATE TO COMMISSION OF VARIOUS CITY DEVELOPM~NTS AND ISSUES (AS REQUESTED BY PLANNING COMMISSION) • PRELIMINARY PLAN REVIEW 1:30 P.M. • PUBLIC HEARING TESTIMONY 3:30 P.M. • JOINT PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING COMMISSION PLANNING COM{v11aSI0NERS PRESENT: BOSTWICK, BRISTOL, KOOS, NAPOLES ABSENT: ESPING, BO'YDSTUN AND ONE VACANT SEAT REDEVELOPMENT & HOUSING COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: KARCZYNSKI, PINSON, PROUSSALIS, TIKKER, WOHLWEND, YVASKA ABSENT: ROMERO STAFF PRESENT: Selma Mann Joel Fick Greg Hastings Cheryl Flores Karen Dudley Kim Taylor Don Yourstone Alfred Yalda Melanie Adams Richard Bruckner I Director Assistant City Attorney Planning Director Zoning Division Manager Senior Planner Associate Planner Associate Planner Senior Code Enforcement Officer Principal Transportation Planner Associate Civil Engineer Community Development Deputy Margarita Soiorio Planning Commission Secreta'ry Ossie Edmundson Senior Secretary 04-12-99 Page 1 ITEM~ OF PUBLIC INTEREST: None 1. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS A. CEQA NEGAT{VE DECLARATION (PREVlOUSLY-APPROVED) Approved CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 4049 - REQUEST FOR REVIEW Approved final AND APPROVAL OF FINAL PLANS: GPRA Architects, Attn: Dennis plans McCoilough,17875 Von Karman #301, Irvine, CA 92614, request review and approval of final sign plans. Property is located at 1163 and 1165 North Knollwood Circle. ACTION: Cnmmissioner Bostwick offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Napoles and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby determine that the previously-approved negative declaration is adequate to serve as the required environmental documentation for subject request. Commissioner Bostwick offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Napoles and MOTION CARRIEO (Commissioners Boydstun and Esp~ng absent and one vacant seat;, that ti~e Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby appmve the finai siyn glans based on the following: (i) That the propcsed sign complies with Code requirements for the ML Zone and is compatible with the existing building. (ii) That the sign will provide identification to the proposed use without being excessive. SR1104J ApplicanYs Statement: Mike Takaki, Brookhurst Towing,1165 North Knollwood Circle, Anaheim, CA: Stated he is proposing a 5' x 10' wide painted wall sign. Cheryl Flores, Senior Planner: Made a correction to staff report, as applicant stated, sign is 5' wide and 10 feet wide. 0~-12-99 Page 2 B, a. CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION (PREVIOUSLY-APPROVEDI Approved b. CONDITIONAI. USE PERMIT NO. 4098 - REQUEST FOR Determined to be fn DETERMINATION OF SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE: Paul substantial Hwang,1912 Bayport Circle No. A, Anaheim, CA 92801, requests conformance determination of conformance to allow an additional 914 square feet and design of the floor area for a previously-approved church. Property is located at 1565 West Katella Avenue. ACTION: Commissioner Kcos offered a motion, secor~ed by Commissioner ~ Napoles and MOTlON CARRIED (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby determine that ihe previously-approved negative declaration is adequate to serve as the requireo environmental documentation for subject request. Commissioner Koos offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner ~lapoles and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby determine that this request is in substantial conformance with all the provisions of the original approval for Conditional Use Permit No. 4098 based on the following: (i) That the site is adequate in size fcr this proposed addition whi~e allowing the church to operate in a fashion that is not detrimental to the surrounding land uses. (ii) That the proposed floor design refines and facilitates the conversion of the existir.g structure for the church use. (iii) That the area of the expansion will not extend t,iis use any closer to the singie-family residences to the north than the distance shown (120 feet) on the previously-approved plans. ___ __ ___ Applicant: Paui Hwang, 1565 West Katella Anaheim, CA: Was present but did not give a presentation. Chairman Bristol: Asked Mr. Hwang if he was going to have any windows to the north, to the neighbors at all from the sanctuary? Paul I-iwang: Responded no. Commissioner Bostwick: Reiterated that Mr. Hwang understands some of the conditions that are in the original conditional use permit still remain in effect. Condition No. 9- that the maximum occupancy of the building is for 49 persons; Condition No.10 - that all church activiry shall end before 8:20 p.m. and parked vehicles shall be removed by 9 p.m. That the hours of operation are as stated in Condition No.11 and in Condition No. 16 that no school facility shall be operated on this site inclusive of pre-schnol operations. Chairman Bristol: Explained to the applicant that he had four classrooms on his new plans and has expanded the building by 800 square feet but he cannot exceed 49 people at the facility. The applicant received an approval 2 months ago and is now intensifying the land use and they wan; to make sure he understands that there is no approval for a school. Commissioner Bostwick: Stated Condition Nu.16 states no school facility shall be operated on this site inclusive, meaning also including of pre-school operations. This means no pre-school facility. 04-12-99 Page 3 Chairman Bristo~; Asked applicant if he was thinking of having pre-school? Paul Hwang: Responded no, not pre-school. Chairman Bristol: Asked applicant what school he was thinking about? Paul Hwang: Responded a bible school. Commissianer Bostwick: States Sunday school is ailowed, appiicanYs hours of operation include a Sunday school. C. a. CEQA EXEMP710N -SECTIOt~ 15061(b)(31 b. SPECIFlC PLAN ADJUSTMENT N0.1. AMEND THE ANAHEIM Concurred w/staff Recommended to RESORT SPECIFIC FLAN NO. 92-2: City-initiated, 200 South City Council Anaheim Boulevard, Anaheim, CA 92805, request ta amend the adoption of the Anaheim Resort Specific Plan No. 92-2, Zoning and Development specific plan Standards (Chapter 18.48 of the Anaheim Municipal Code) relating to adjustment structural setbacks and yard requirements to reflect the redesignation of Convention Way from a Primary Arterial Highway to a Local Street. ACTION: Commissioner Bostwick offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Koos and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby concur with staff that the proposed project falls within the definition of Categorical Exemptions, Class 15t~61(b)(3), as defined in the State EIR Guidelines and is, therefore, categorically ~xempt from the requirements to prepare an EIR. Commissioner 6ostv~ick offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Napoles and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council the adoption of Specific Plan Adjustment No. 1 to amend the Anaheim Resort Specific ?lan No. 92-2 to reflect the redesignation of Convention Way from a Primary Arterial Highway to a Local Skreet and create a new sub-paragraph reflecting the existing landscape setback requirements for properties adjacent to Convention Way. SR7416KD.DOC Karen Dudley, Associate Planner: Explained item 1-C is a proposed Specific Plan adjustment to amend the Development Standards specifically the structural setback and yard requirements af the Anah3im Resort Specific Plan No. 92-2 to reflect the iocal street status of Convention Way resuiting from the Council's recent adoption of General Plan amendment that deleted Convention Way between Harbor Blvd. and West Street as a primary arterial. The proposed adjustment would remove Convention Way under the sub-paragraph listing for major primary and secondary roads and create a new sub-paragraph specifically for Convention V~lay. The existing setback requirement would remain the same as it is now. 04-12-99 Page 4 D. ltEQUEST FOa DETERMIN~CTION OF CONFORMANCE WITH THE Determined to be ANAHEIM GENERAL PLAN: Linda Barry, Real Property Agent, in conformance County of Ort,~ge Prcbation Department, 90S ~lorth Main Street, Santa with the Anaheim Ana, CA 92701-3511, requests determination of conFormance with the General Plan Anaheim General Plan for the proposed lease of additional space for the Youth and Family Resource Center. Property is located at 310 West Cerritos Avenue. ACTION: Commissioner Bostwick offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Napoles and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), th4t the Anaheim City Planring Commission does hereby determine the County's proposal to lease additional space at 310 West Cerri!os Avenue to expand its Youth and Family Resource Center is in conforrnance with the Anaheim General Plan. SR001 Kim Tayior, Associate Planner: Stated this is a request from County Probation Department to determine conformance with the Anaheim General Plan for ~dditional 1735 square feet of lease space far office and classroom uses to expand the 1'outh And Family Resource Center. Characteristics of the program will remain the same as outlined in the staff report. Staff recommends that Commission find the proposal is in conformance with Anaheim General Plan. 04-12-99 Pago 5 E. REQUEST FOR DETERMINATION OF CONFORMANCE WITH THE Determined to be ANAHEIM ~~NERAL PLAN: Michae! Woriey, No~th Or~nge County in conformance ROP, 2360 West La Palma Avenue, Anaheim, CA 92802, requests v~ith the Anaheim determination of conformance with the Anaheim General Pian for the General Plan proposed lease of classroom space for the North Orange County f2egionai Occupation Program. Property is loc2ted at 2222 West Sequoia Avenue. ACTION: Commissioner Bostwick offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Koos and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby determine the North Orange County ROP's proposal to lease space at 2222 West Sequoia Avenue for a business school is in conformance with the Anaheim General Plan. 7KT.DOC Kim 't'aylor, Associate Planner: Stated this is a request from thP North Orange County Regional occupation Program to determine conformance with the Anaheim General Plan for a proposed lease of 8,000 square foot space for a business school at 222 West Sequoia Avznue ~vhich is the Fairmont Private School. School has been in operation for 10 years without a General Plan conformity and hours of operation and student load will all remair the same. Staff asked Planning Commission, by motion, find that the North Orange County R?gional Occupation's proposal to lease the space in conformance with the General Plan. RE UEST FOR DETERMINATION OF CONFORMANCE WITH 7HE Determined not to ANAHEIM GENERAL PLAN: Barry Permenter, Real Property Agent, be in confo~mance County of Orange, Public Facilities and Resources Department, 300 with the Anaheim North Flower Street, Santa Ana, CA 92707, requests determination of General Plan conformance with the Anaheim General Plan for the proposed sale of Counry surplus propErty. Property is located at 8200 East La Palma Avenue. ACTION: Chairman Bristol offered a moticn, seconded by Commissioner Bostwick and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), fhat the Anaheim City Planning Commission doES hereby determine that the County's proposed sale of surplus property for the purpose of developing a planned commercial office/light industrial center is nat in conformance with the Anaheim General Plan at this time on basis that conformance with the General Plan is contingent with the approval of Item No. 2 of the April 12,1999 Planning Commission agenda and seid item has been continued beyond the deadlinP required tor action to be taken on this item. Recommended that the County resubmit a request for the April 26, 1999 Planning Commission meeting. Selma Mann, Assistant City Attorney: Explained l'he Political Reform Act with regard public officials making a governmental decision when there is a conflict of interest. Regarding Item No. 1-F, and because a decision is legally required to be made ~~ithin 40 day:s after the item has been submitted, or it shall be deemed a finding that the proposed acquisit~on or sale is in conformance v~ith the General Plan. This action is not in conformance with the General F'I~n therPfore it is legally necessary for the Planning Commission to act today or it would exceed the 40 day oeriod. They are invoking the rule of necessity of 04-12-99 Page 6 Section 87~00 tio permit Commissioner Bostwick to participate in the decision 1-F. They are talking about Item Na.1-F which is the one they are going to be able to act on. Kim Taylor, Associate Planner: Due to the 40 day s:atute of Iimitation that they must act within, staff recommends denial of this Item. Chairman Bristol: Asked if there were any questions or if anyone wanted to act on it. Made motion that County of Arange Public Faci!ities and Resources Department is in conformance with the General Plan for the proposed sale of the surplus property. Selma Mann: Stated Item No.1-F is linked to item No. 2. It had previously been denied because Item No. 2 had been continued and it is the same action that will have to be taken here. Absent action by the Planning Commission on Item No. 2, the Planning Commission car.^^: determine that this proposed item is in conformance with the General Plan. 04-12-99 Page 7 G. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 4076 - REQUEST FOR A NUNC Continued to PRO TUNC RESOLUTION: City of Anaheim, Planning Commission April 26,1999 Secretary, 200 South Anaheim Blvd., Anaheim, CA 92805, request a by operation of law nunc pro tunc resolution to correat Condition No. 8 af Resolutian No. PC98-198 adopted in connection with the approval of Conditional Use Permit No. 4076. Property is located at 200 West Midway Drive - Anaheim Resort R.V. Park. NUNC PRO TUNC RESOLUTION N0. I Chairman 8ristol: Explained that they had an unusual circumstance today because they lack quorum to vote on two items, Item No. 1-G and Item N0. 2. Asked the City Aktomey for legal opinion and comment. Selma Mann, Assistant City Attomey: Stated there was a Commissioner who had a conflict on these two items. Commissioner Bostwick: Declared a conflict of int~rest since he owns property within 1000 feet of subject properties. Selma Mann: Explained The Political Reform Act with regard public officials making a governmentai decision when there is a conflict of interest. Regarding item 1-F, and because a decision is legally required to be made within 40 days after the item has been submitted, or it shall be deemed a finding that the proposed acquisition or sale is in conformance with the General Plan, This action is not in conformance with the General Plan therefore it is legally necessary for the Planning Commission to act today or it would exceed the 40 day period. They are invoking the rule of necessity of Section 87100 to permit Commissioner Bostwick to participate in the decision 1-F. Chairman Bristol: Asked Selma if there was no action on 1 G and 2. Selma Mann: Asked which one. Chairman Bristol: Stated 1 G and item 2. Selma Mann: Item 1-G will be continued by operation of 12w because you can't vote to offer a motion to continue it and the same for item 2. Chairman Bristol: Stated for those in audience who had an interest in item 2 and 1 G it will be continued for 2 weeks so they may leave. Chairman Bristol: Clarified Item No. 1-G and Item No. 2 are continued. 04-12-99 Page 8 CODE AMENDMENT NO 99-03 - REQUEST FOR ~MENDMENT TO Recommended THE ANAHEIM FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE - adoption of the CHAPTERS 17.28 AND 18.90 OF THE ANAHEIM MUNICIPAL draft ordinance to CODE: City Initiated, Planning Department, 200 South Anaheim Blvd., I City Council Anaheim, CA 92805, request for amendments to the Anaheim Floodplain Management Ordinance. CA TION: Commissioner Napoles offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Bosiwick and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to :he City Council adoption of the proposed amendments to the Ciry's Floodplain Management Ordinance, Chapters 17.28 and 18.90, as set forth in Ordinance form in Attachment B of the staff report dated April 12,1999. SR0013KT.DOC Kim Taylor, Associate Planner: Explained it was a City initiated request to consider proposed amendments to the Floodplain Management Ordinance to insure compliance with the National Flood Insurance Program requirements and to maintain the 15% reduction in flood insurance premiums for residents. The proposed amendments adds new definitions, procedures, and ciarifies existing code sections. Staff recommends that the Planning Commission, by motion, recommend to the City Council to adopt the proposed amendments to the City's Ploodplain Management Ordinance, as set forth with the attachments that are in ihe staff report. 04-12-99 Page 9 3:30 P.M. - JOiWT~UEi.~C MEETING WITH TNE RBDEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING COMMI~SION ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REFORT NQ. 320 (PkEV. CERTIFIEDI Approved AREA DEVELOPMEi3T PLAN N0.120 Gotcha Glacier, Attn: Bradford Received and filed Kinney, 33159-D Camino Capistrano, San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675, and Summit Commercial Properties, Inc., Attn: Rod Oshita,1970 E. Grand Avenue, Suite 300, EI Segundo, CA 90245, request Planning Commission review of finai plans for development in Sportstown Anaheim. The property consists of about 50 acres located southeast of the southeast corner of Katella Avenue and State Coliege Boulevard. ACTION: Commissioner Bostwick offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Napoles and MOTION CARRIED (Commissfoners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seatj, that the Anaheim Ciry Planning Commission does hereby aetermine that the previously-certified Environmental Impact Report No. 320 is adequate to serve as the required environmental documentation for this request. Commissioner Bostwick offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Napoles and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby ~eceive and file the Final Schematic Plans (Exhibit Nos. 1 and 2, dated April 1, 1999) for the master site plan for the 250,000 square-foot Summit commercial office building, the 435,000 square-foot Gotcha Glacier building and 40,000 square feet of retail devefopment adjacent to Gotcha Glacier. Commissioner Bostwick offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Napoles and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby recei~e and file the Final Building Plans (Exhibit No. 3, dated April 8,1999, and Exhibit No. 4, dated April 12, 1999) fer the 250,000 square-foot Summit commercial office building. SR7428AS.DOC T~ he following is a detailed summary of Item No.1-I, a Joint Meeting with the Planning Commission and Red6°ielopment and Housing Commission. Planning Commission Chairman Bristol: We're going to reconvene the Anaheim Planning Commission meeting and we'll turn it over to Chairman Karczynski. Redevelopment and Housing Chairman Karczynski: The Anaheim Redevelopment and Housing Commission will now come to order with a joint meeting wiEh the Anaheim Planning Commission. This a public meeting and we da need to call for public comments. Are there any public comments? (None). I am going to close public comments and hand it over to Joel Fick. Joel Fick, Planning Director: Thank you both Mr. Chairmen. 1'm Joel Fick the Planninc~ Director for the City. The Pianning Commission and Redevelopment and Housing Commission are conducting this joint meeting regarding the proposed development in Sportstown Anaheim. For those of you that were not hers and involved in the project before, Area Development Plan No.120 was approved by the City Council back in July 1996. The Plan entitles the land uses and intensities for the Stadium property and Condition No. 2 of the Area Development Plan required that the final development plans be submitted to 04-12-99 Page 10 the Planning Commission for review. Also since the entire Stadium properry is located in a redevelopment project area, the Redevelopment and Housing Commission is a very important component in our review process and that is why we very much appreciate you all being here today as well. The purpose of today's public meeting is to provide the Commissions with an update and review of two things. Schematic plans for the master site plan for the first two development phases in Sportstown and for the Gotcha Giacier building and ancillary retail square footage as weli as the final building plans and supplemental information that you will be seeing this afternoon for the Summit Commercial office building. To supplement the information that is contained in the staff repo~t to the Planning Commission, representatives from Summit Commercial Properties and Gotcha Giacier are with us today. They will make brief presentations on the respective components of their individual plans and will also respond to any questions the Commission members may have. There are too many staff members who have worked on this project to name them by name but all departments because of the infrastructure review pretty much have been involved with review of this project from its inception but in particular the City Manager's office, Planning and Community Development Departments, Stadium and Convention Cenker, City Attorney's office, and Public Works have all had key r,omponent parts. As you proceed, the representatives from the project are here to answe~ questions you might have and staff is here as well. At this point what we'd like to do is to proceed with the review of the Summit Commercial office building and after that we'll go into the Gotcha Glacier building. With that l'd like to turn this presentation over to Rod Oshita. Rod Ushita, Summit Commercial Properties: Good afternoon, Thank you for this opportunity to present this to Commission. First of all I'd like to say that we really appreciate the efforts that the staff and the City of Anaheim have put forth on this project. They have worked with us very diligently and accomplished quite a bit in a very short period of time. I want to introduce Dale Yonkin with Nadel Architects who is going to take us throu~h some of the things his firm have put together, and the design of this building, as well as Joe Vargas with Cushman and Wakefield. Joe is in charge of the leasing and marketing of the project. If you have any questions in regard to that we'll be happy ;o address them. I'll take you through the site plan and then turn it over to Dale and he'll take you through the intricacies of the building itself. As you can see the building sits on about an acre and halfjust north of Gene Autry Way, just south of the new entry that will be put in and will be signalized by the City. We have a parking license agreement that we are still finalizing with the City for a thousand spaces that will be a shared parking agreement with the rest of Sportstow~i. We are realiy close to finalizing that. One of things that we have done to the site plan that you'll see is because we are constructing a Class A office building in the middle of the parking lot, we've really concentrated on putting a buffer zone of landscaping around the property to soften the feel of the offce building. The landscaping varies from about 48 to 42 feet surrounding the building with a drop off point in front of the building with a landscape berm. We are talking to various architects and artists right now and we are going to propose that we come in with our art work in lieu of a public art fee and put that in the center area and have that tie into the Stadium as well. Dale do you have the next board? This is just a little closer shot of the bigger site plan, again designating the ingresses and egresses. Dale, do you want to go ahead and go to the next board and talk to some of the physical features of the building7 Dale Yonkin, Nadel Arcfiitects: I wanted to point out a few things in the building plan itself. IYs a relatively large footprint building so we have broken the building down into two basic elements to reduce the overall scale of the project. Since it is a major pait of the sort of gateway to the new development that is occurring around the Sta~ium, we've angled the building back like we've shown here to allow views around the corner as you're coming down College R~ad (State College Boulevard). Also, to add some interest and unpredictability to the floor plan those tie into other articulations provided around the outside of the building. So the building is relatively or highly articulated in profile. The building is articulated with a number of jogs around the outside along with the two major notches into the building. This notch obviously responds to the fact that lhis is the main entry to the building since the majority of the people come from this side. However, by carving it back on the front side it gives sort of a formal entry look approach from the street whicti is actually going to be used as seating and sn forth for people coming down out of the building to be out in that seating area. All of the handicapped parking is located adjacent to the building. The overall parking at 4 per 1,000 extends around where this dotted ilne was shown. I think ihaYs it for the plan, ieYs go to the exteriors. 04-12-99 Page 11 This is the view from the College Road ~State CoUege BoulevardJ sido. Basically the buildin~a is made up of three kinds of elements on the exteriar. One is curtain wall thaYs glass ail ~he uvay from the roof to the ground. Another element is what I would cail pt~nched windews. This kind of squarish window punch into the solid exterior of the building. And then the other arpas are these longer punched windows as a different module for the accent color portions of the building. The glazed purtion or the cu~tain wall portion is a mixture of vision and fretted giass, which is a basically a clear glass but it has a fired on coating which you can see on the materials board so that while you can see through it, it obscures from the outside what is occurring behind it. The reason that we are doing that is, number one, to provide a very transparent shimmery quality to these accent eiements along the main street but also since the glass does go all the way to the floor when desks are pushed up ~;~air~st the glass it provides a masking for those areas. Alse, since it essentially is vision glass we need to i ~ask the beams and so forth which will be wrapped gypsum board behind these spandrel areas. But in lieu of having opaque spandrel glass we are ~.sing the fretted glass which gives a very shimmery quality to those glazed areas. Thp rest of the building is a cement finish on afi these solid areas with two different colors. One a basically whitish color that is shown on the sample and a sort of yellowish color for the others. That I think is about it for the exteriors. We've taken the parapets and pull these back at various points to give some additional modeiirrg to the b~ilding. I think that for a relatively straight fonvard building, in the sense iYs an extruded building from the ground up. It will have quite a bit of visual interest. QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS: Commissioner Pinson: I was concerned about reflection from the glass on the southwest corner for the Stadium. I'm sure you've thought through this but any kinds of reflections that might be impediment to #he game we really shouid look at right now. Dale Yonkin: Okay, the glass that we are proposing is not a highly reflective glass. It has a, what do you call it, a low E-coating that does provide just a slight bit of reflectivity but frankly from the oukside you won't be able to judge that this is a more highiy reflective glass than plain glass, a tinted glass. Rod Oshita: I think the nther thing is that where we are located in relation to the Stadium, I don't think we will be visible from the Stadium. We are along the third baseiine there. Our building height is going to go to about 95 feet and I believe the Stadium height is about 130 faet so we won't be within the vision of anyone inside the ball park. Commissioner Pinson: I'm sure you'll take a line of sight and make sure that's not a problem? Rod Oshita: Right. Dale Yonkin: The other advantage we have is that the building, as opposed to say an all curtain wail building which would be a very straight forward solution to a building like this since it gives you continuous ribbon windows at all lease spaces... We've gone through quite a bit of effort to give this building a solidity and a kind of exposed structural look that I think will tie in well with the Stadium and the articulated project that is going next to it. So the goal here is to provide a strong building that will hold its own against those other buildings that have some exposed structural look to them ar~d it also reduces the amount of glass by doing that. Rod Oshita: Does that answer your question? Any other comments on this or should we move onto the next? Commissioner Wohlwend: (Did not spoak directly into fhe microphoneJ I have a question regarding your original comment, when you refer to the front of the building are you referring to the east side where that turn out, drop off area is? Rod Oshita: ThaPs where the majority ... you know because we are set in the rniddle of a parking lot all sides are going to bE very visibie from every angle. While the east side of the building was where the majority of the drop offs are going to be and thaYs the easiest and closest access to the parking field. We anticipate thaPs where most of the people are going to come in. However, on the west side of the building 04-12-99 Page 12 it will be done in such a way that ... because of the visibility from State College it will have that same front door entry appearance. Commissioner Wohlwend: Will they have... it kind of appeared on the first drawing that you had, are there stairs on the west s~de or is the only entrance actually on the east side to get into the building? Dale Yonkin: Well, actually you could enter from both sides. We're not making an issue of a pedestrian entrance from the street side since we don't see it as a major pedestrian access to the building. This is just a paving indication if that was the question. Commissioner Wohiwend: Actually on the outside I saw those lines, is that paving as well to the left of where you are? Dale Yonkin: This is paving, as is this. These will just be enhanced paving. We have the three colors of paving on the color board so there will be a medley of those colors in some way we haven't designed that yet. Commissioner Wohlwend: So, if people were taking a bus, IeYs say, to come to work, they would have to walk all the way into the property or how would they get in the building? Dale Yonkin: Actually thaYs a good question. I'm not sure what the plan is for any pedestrian access along the street. If there is iPs sort o1` outside our design effort right at the moment. But if you do have pedestrian access along in here, ye~, you can come in through here and into here because this door will during business hours always be open since we expect people to be coming down sitting out here and coming back during the day. Female: (Did not speak directly into !he microphone.J Okay, pedestrian access was one of my questions and issues. Joel Fick: Commissioner Wohlwend thaYs an important point from our stand point too. IYs staff view point that on all of these projects that there is pedestrian flow through the Stadium project from Amtrak through the site over to the office area and through to the Stadium area. ThaPs important from our view point. Commissioner Wohiwend: You feel that they have addressed it in the plans that you have seen. Okay, thank you. Dale Yonkin: And these are the building elevations. They merely reiterate what you saw ir the computer generated perspective, but as you can see there is quite a bit of solid material on the outside of the buiiding. So i think it will be a very strong building as opposed to a building that might be made up of curtain wall or curtain wall and metal panels. I think this wiil have a very strong presence on the street and also a sort of toughness to it that will stand up to the Stadium. And th~t's about it, if there are any specific questions we can answer those. Redevelopment and Housing Commission Chairman Karczynski: My questions are basically about occupancy. What kind of occupancy projections are you making, who's going to be occupying the building, what type of tenants? Dale Yonkin: Luckily, as the architect i don't have ko do that. Rod OsFiita: Before Joe gets started the one thing I will say is the basic footprint ot this building, the two 20,000 square feet accumulate into a 40,000 square foot floor plan that is very similar to a building that is currently under construction in EI Segundo, California. We are probably 3'/z to 4 months away from completion on that project. What we are seeing right now, and I'll let Joe expand on that, is that the majority of the tenants out in the market place right now are looking for those types of floor plates. Those are the kinds of people that Joe is talking to right now, Joe do you want to add onto that? Joseph Vargas, Summit Commercial Properties: This building in Sportstown Anaheim is really a broker's dream. IPs not a work in progress, iPs a proven commodity. As Rod has mentioned the mirror of this 04-12-99 Page 13 building has been developed twice in the EI Segundo area and has been very successful. The most current building, Continental Grand Plaza II, has been pre-leased to about 50% occupancy with Hughes Aircraft and also an executive suite company, Regis. The building provides a tremendous flexibility for the tenants in the market today. It is essentially two buiidings joined by an atrium. Rod Oshita: You have a 40,000 square foot floor plate which is 6 stories that really provides human scale and a big plate for the tenants in the market today: service companies, communications companies, computer companies. Companies that have huge populations or large densities within their building but they also have half a floor, about 20,000 square feet, that really is reflective of buildings that are more high rise in nature or high rise, if you will, for a suburban market. So we have the advantage of appealing to the tenants that want both those types of space, large floor piates of 40,000 square feet or 20,000 square feet. Additionally, the building is very flexible. The building has the ability to go down to... to be demised down to 1,000 square feet. So we can go from 1,000 square feet to multiple floors to meet the needs of the tenants in the market today. Just to address the type of tenants that we're looking at in the market right now, we have market insurance companies, securities brokerage companies, entertainment companies, Intarnet companies. To date we are in serious negotiations with an executive suite company and we also have proposals Qut to insurance companies with tremendous interest from one of the larger security companies that is looking to consolidate in the area. At this point in time we are in the development part of the process, it is our goal for the marketing team to create an aura on the building, a sense of urgency with the tenants that the project is going to be developed. So the result today is a big step forward for us in our marketing process to be able to secure the tenants. We feel very confident that we are going have very successful prE-leasing in the building, up to 50°/a of the building prior to completion of construction. Commissioner Wohlwend: On the bottom floor, would any of that be commercial or is it strictly office space? Joseph Vargas, Summit Commercial Properties: Right now we are in discussions with a retail bank for a portion of the ground floor. The way office buildings have evnlved the ground floor has really become more of a space amenity for the buildings. So while we would like to secure the space on a direct lease basis to office tenants, we do believe that there will be some retail or amenity to that ground floor, specifically a bank. I think of some point in time if we can find the right nook and cranny, if you will, in the building we would look to provide some type of sandwich shop or sundry shop that could serve the building. Commissioner Wohlwend: i am familiar with the Continental projects. Congratulations on that. What is the duration of construction, do you a pre-leasing benchnark report set up on construction? Rod Oshita: No we don't, the transactional companies don't have any kind of a Gre-leasing commitment. Ail the projects we are currently evol•!ed with are being done on a speculative, 100% speculative basis. Commissioner Wohlwend: Great, and construction would be about how long? Rod Oshita: Construction time is about 14 and 18 months. Richard Bruckner, Community Development Department: If I may, Commissioners, just to intery'ect one thing while we are talking about the building and leasing. One of the important issues is signage, I think everyone has wrested with that, and what we have indicated to the developer, and I believe what's on your drawings is one primary tenant sign on the top of each of the four side plus the signage on the entry door on both the east and west elevation's and those are primary tenant signs. These will not be visible from inside the Stadium. Commissioner Wohiwend: (Did not speak directly into the microphone.) Had a question regarding signage. She referenced the drawings that they rer,eived and noted her concern in particular with the 3 monument signs. Oa-12-99 Page 14 Joel Fick: IYs also very much a concem of staff . I believe the Gotcha Glacier presentation that a master plan for signage is one of the things that wili be coming back before you. Commissioner Wohlwend: From a facilities aspect, I see one enclosure for trash and do you feel that is sufficient7 Rod Oshita: That is correct. Commissioner Wohlwend: Would that be compactor based or specifically bins? Rod Oshita: I think specifically bins right now. Commissioner Koos: Relating to Commissioner Wohlwend's concern about pedestrian circulation and given that I view this site as a huge opportunity to linking the train station, the Stadium, potential rastaurant, whateuer. But being big on pedestrian flow, are we going to incorporate any amenities or embellishments to that experience iike public art, a fountain or statues? Rod Oshita: Yes, if you see the landscaping berm that is out there in the middle of the drop-off point. That is the area that we are considering for the pubiic art piece. We have contacted a couple of artists that are putting together some information for us and what we see right now a piece that will be some type of a tie-in to the Stadium and to the rest of Sportstown. We have seen everything from big sculpture~ of catchs; masks, those type of things. That is where we see the public art piece being set. I think the paving areas that Dale h~s depicted will create a warm feeling to the area. We current have some Genches and some other higher landscape areas and I think that should create a pretty warm outside pedestrian feel. Ccmmissioner Koos: Wili that be carried throughout the whole Sportstown effort along these lines? Joel Ficlc: I think that is an item that Brian Myers will be walking you through as part of the overall master plan. We are absolutely aware that is of concern and interest. Rod Oshita: As do we because we have to get this building leased. Commiss~oner Bostwick: You're going to reconfigure the parking lot as of your construction with this building? Richard Bruckner: Part of what you'll hear Iater on is that the City's obligation is to reconfigure the Stadium parking area to meet the lease with the Angels. So the Stadium parking area... all that will be reconfigured and the parking analysis that has been done for both this project and the Glacier project will be addressed by Glacier and they have undertaken a series of parking studies for this project and the first phase of the Glacier. There is more than adequate parking. When we get into the second phase of Glacier what ~ve want to do is analyze how the first phase performed before we break out of thst because it is such an unusual use. But in ierms of quantity of parking there is 2 significant amount of parking and for this project well above code parking. Corrmissioner Bostwick: The City is actually taking the lead on reconfiguring it, putting in the street, the lsaffic light, doing all of those. Richard Bruckner: 7he entry way, the traffic light and the restriping of the main portion of the parking lot is the City's obligation. The obligation of the developers is essentially their on-sites. Commissioner Mary Ruth Pinson: (Inaudib/e] Indicated she would like to see it come back Rod Oshita: Absolutely. Rod Oshita: Any other questions? Thank you very mur,h. 04-12-99 Page 15 Joel Fick: Thank you Rod. Next I would like to introduce Brian Myers, who ~vili introduce Brad Kinney and his team with the Gotcha Glacier. Brian is with the Spectrum Group and has a long history of involvement with the Stadium property. At this point I will turn it over to Brian. Brian Myers, Spectrum Group: Thank you Joel and members of the Commission I'm honored to be here before you this evening. We have qui!e an exciting project to share with you. I'm sure you have seen in some of the package materials that this is a very unique project with the Gotcha Glacier and with the Sportstown project in particular and we have quite a few things to share with you. We thought it would be important to first introduce our team, which I will do, but also to give you an overview of what happens inside the facility itself because it is so unique and you certainly w;n't find anything like it in the United States although you ~ill find similar facilities across the worid. You are going to find this is an exciting new destination that we are going to bring to Anaheim and we are certainly looking forward to bringing this to fruition. 7his is our first step as we are going forward beyond the Sportstown Master Plan. This, our first step to share with you is actually the implementation of Sportstown. As you saw the office building before you, that is a very import~nt part of the economic and fiscal balance of the project. This is part of the destination attraction of the project and we will share with you sort~a of the Master Plan concepts. I have with me this evening Brad Kinney who is the CEO of Glacier Sports. I have also with me John Best who is the Development Manager Tor the project with Kajima Urban. I also have with me Jorge Anibarro with F&A Architects and I have Michael Girard over here to my left who is also a principal and partner with Glacier Sports. To describ~ some of the things that have happened with this project, I think it is very important that you understand how we are starting to piece together the operations and the construction of this facility to give you some confidence on how we are going to bring it forvvard. It is certainiy an exciting v?sion but it is something complex enough that we needed to bring on a series of people and to build a team in order to deliver our vision to the City. In doing that I introduced to you Kajima Urban, John Best, and Kajima Urban is actually the development manager of the project. In doing so they guarantee both the schedule and the construction budget for the project which is very important with something as unique as this facility. Their most recent project which you may be familiar with is the project which they just delivered i~ Long Beach, the Long Beach Aquarium project. They're very familiar with unique projects across the world, both stadium projects and entertainment project. In fact, they built the worid' first indoor sl<i mountain in Tokyo, Japan, and we're also an investor in that. In saying that, Kajima Urban is a very imporf.ant part af our delivery process. Turner Construction is our contractor and is on board providing all of the construction and constructability advised for us and again, as you know, they have vast experience here in this town, locally in Orange County and particularly with the facilities here in Anaheim and most recently come off lhe Stadium work which they were very proud of and are very familiar with the site. We aiso have as an operating partner, Ogden. Ogden Entertainment is actually a financial partner in the project. As you could imagine with the number of events and the types of attractions we are doing there we felt it was important to bring on that rype of an operating partner. Once we developed the facility and we can make some promises tp Kajima on the schedule and construc;ability of the site we have to promise to you that we can operate it with some efficiency. Again, this is a facility that is going to host a number of events, crowds that we need to be able to manage appropriately and make sure they come back so that we're all proud of the destination. We also have as an energy partner, Enron. Enron is the energy partner that is not only promising and guaranteeing the electrical paclcage, working in conjunction, of course, with the Ciry Utilities fer the electrical package for the site. They are also guaranteeing the operation of the snowmaking equipment. Of course a Gotcha Glacier without snow isn't much of a glacier, so we needed to have some guarantees there in order to move forward wiih confidence to be able to promise that we could have snow indoors. Having stated that I'm first soing to have Michael Girard introduca to you the facility, the operations that happen inside the box and if we can then transition I will come down and introduce you to the site and how the site comes together and then we will take some questions. 04-12-99 Page 16 Michael Girard, ~lacier 5ports: It makes a lot of sense to run through here and see all the dynamics going on because there is so much happening in this building that without the walk-through you don't get all the pieces. Everything we are doing inside the building has been done before. All the differen"t sporfs and activities indoors and as Brian efuded to, there is a facility in Japan that was built in 1993 that is very successful and since then another 20 to 25 additional facilities have been built around the world in England, Australia, several in Japan, the Netherlands, Malaysia. It goes on and they are all over. The footprint of the facility is 250 feet wide and 600 feet long. It is basically divided into three different zones inside the building. We have the "Board Room" as our main attraction, is the indoor snow. Underneath that we have a"Crevasse", it is called an area with an indoor surf park and a skate pack for small kids. And then in this third area, the "Gallery," is the main gathering area for non-sports particip~nts. We have an ice skating rink with a food court type of setting there. So, back to the main area, the Board Room itself is 3%: acres of real snow indoors. Again, Enron Energy is doing the entire energy package and guaranteeing 30 degrees, low h~midity, at all times. We have a quad chair that is mounted on the wall here, a little snow board train park coming down through here. This is a competition snow board half pike that meets all the specifications for the Olympics, the World Cup and all the prof~ssional and amateur governing bodies around the United States and the world. So we will have a lot of comp~titions coming through this facility. In this side of the facility is a slightly more shallow slope. We have a beginner, low level, half pike and then a tremendous first time beginners skiing and sndwboarding program. I have been in ti~e ski industry for 20 years and we nave been looking for a solution... for about 20 years, on how to get people from the City to participate and come up to the snow in Southern California. With all these millions of people iYs amazing when you see how many haven't actually seen or touched snow before. So we think it is going to be great for that. In the first time beginner area, we liave a magic carpet system. It is like a people mover in an airport. You actually stand on the conveyor, the low l2vel skiers and snow boarders can be taken up the hill that way. Just above the Board Room area we have a first time beginner skier and orientation center for first time skiers and snowboarders. Wo actually take the students into a room, show them a video of what to expect throughout their lesson get them acquainted with the basics skills of skiing or snowboarding on a revoiving carpet system. I don't know if you have seen those before but you can actually ski on a carpet that revolves in reverse, like a treadmill. We have 10 to 12 individual little stair master size revolving carpets so we will be able to provide great or,e on one instruction and take some ~f the anxiety out prior to going out onto the snow. So that is the Board Room area. It ~ti~ill be completely wired for sound and video and TV. We have had several of the networks approach us about getting involved with the filming of events and producing events through our facility. Again, that is the main area. Underneath here we have what we call the Crevasse. We have a 6 pool surf park and those are stationary wave pools. fhere are about 20 of these facilities up and running very sucr,essfully around the world and what they do is form the shape of a wave out of concrete and cover it with a dense boogie board type skin and shoot about a 100,000 gallons of water up against the feature every minute and you lay on the boogie board or you stand on a small snow board type surF board and you are actually surfing in place. These start from the very low level beginner waves from about the size of this counter all the way up to 12 foot, two pipeline waves where the pro surfers can come in and do demonstrations. The feedback from the sufing industry is very positive and they have done tremendous events and they have been featured on MN Sports and ABC and around the world. The largest wave right now is in Norway. It is 11 feet high and we're going to have two 12 foot waves, a left facing wave and a right facing wave, depending on which way you go on your board. It will be wired for TV and high profile events as well, it is very dynamic. Another thing we did is took this area underneath we've divided in half, halF will be for the wave park which will be highly themed with trees and rock formations and what not. The other half is for a skate park, similar to what they have at Vans at The Block jin Garden GroveJ, which you may be aware has been hugely successful. They are abou~t 40% over their prujections right now. It serves the pro-skaters real well but we think they did not give enough room for the small kids and a couple of our board members have small kids that spend a lot of time there. If you look there, there's a lot of tremendous skate boarding and there is a lot of very small children. Our whole facility is geared towards the family of the next millennium and the "baby boomer's" children are coming up, the family unit is much tighter than it has ever 04-12-99 Page 17 been before and the kids are really driving the decisions the whole family is making. So it is a very kid orientated society right now. So we would like to make a safe, fun, clean environment that was really designed for the kids, for small kids. In our skate area we are going to feature a much larger small children's/grown up skating area for the family. Also down here we have retail opportunities, more food court situations going on, kids entertainment box. This is a mezzanine that actually wraps entirely around above the surf skate area. It is an old rendering and it used to end here but it actually covers the whole thing now. We have a 24,000 square foot fitness center. On the back wall along the meuanine we have North America's largest rock climbing wall, it is 18,000 square feet of rock surFace with boulders. Whan Brian addresses outside retail, in the bigger site plan, we will have the retail box alony this side. A two story box that will be a nationally recognized mountaineering type sporting goods store that will have their own entrance off the second floor onto the mezzanine and they will be running the rock wall and tying that all into their merchandised in the store as well. So the Crevasse area is down there. The third area that we want to address is this area called the Gallery and this is the main gathering point for the non-sports participants. The folks that just want to come in. It is set up like a large food court in a mall. We have viewing on these bleachers for about 1,250 people and you can actually look through this thermal glass wall from the comfort of a normal room temperature into the cold snow room and watch all the activities goin~ on in here. We have an ice skating rink that is a little bit smaller than Olympic size. It is not a hockey rink in any way. It is more of a Rockefeller Center type feel. Again, we ~~ e focused on the all family environment where small kids can ice skate. Meanwhile, parents can sit a; ound the perimeter in a warm environment. I don't know how Enron is doing this but they are going to make 27 or 22 degree ice and a 65 degree room temperature work together which an engineering challenge+, I must sa~, but they can do it. If anyone can do it, they can. Lots of birthday suites for small kids whicii is a tremendous business right now. Soccer moms with a mini van of 8 to 10 year olds looking for a place to grab a birthday party. So we think it will be a tremendous, a great piace, a kids dream for a birthday party. So lots of birthday event suite opportunities so you can sit up there and watch the big snow board contest and that is the Gallery area. Above that we have a large restaurant and a balcony. From this balcony you can look across the ice and into the board room. We also have an apre's ski kind of a lounge which ties into a restaurant out in the front end. This is just to give you kind of a different perspective. This is a view from the restaurant balcony where you would be overlooking the ice and into the Board Room. The building is quite dynamic from a lot of different perspectives and, as far as the activities inside, there is a lot going on ard a complex engineering project but we feel we have the strength in our partners to pull it off. With that, I will pass this presentation back to Brian. Brian Myers: Thank you, Michael. Michael always gets the exciting part. He does such a great job of describing the facility. I just sit back and have fun listening to him. One thing that I do want to point out that I didn't say in the introduction, it is vey important as we talk about the operation of the facility, as you have probably noticed, the sponsor for the project and the partner of the project that it a brand is Gotcha Sports. Gotcha through their clothing manufacturers and their relationship with hard goods sporting manufacturers and their ownership of enormous amounts of conlant in the media industry are going to provide an image for the project. That is why Glacier Sports partnered with them and Gotcha brand also has a financial relationship with Jay Schottenstein who is not only a retail developer in the Midwest but also owns a number of retailers. So between them they own a series of 8 to 10 significant size retailers that will showing up in part of this project, American Eagle Outfitters is fairly a significant tenant that will be showing up in this project. Their Gotcha brand store, there's Girl Star and a number of other clothing goods that they have and sell in their retail stores as weil, that will be showing up as part of the validation of the retail side of this project. Having said that, one of the things that we went througi~, before I share with you the site plan which you may have some questions about, we did go through market feasibility analysis. As a matter of fact, some of that is ongoing. We are going through enormous amounts of research ERA is a very well respected consulting firm you may have rerun across in the past. They do a number of theme park projects as a consultant across the world. They have done Disney work and Universal work, etc. and we have been 04-12-99 Page 18 making some changes as a result of their recommendations. We have spent a lot of time with Ogden, with ERA looking at this faciliry, how it operates and what type of market we shouid be going after. One of the things I want to tell you just to give you assurance of where we're going, they came back after looking at facilities across the country like we're looking at for the Glacier Sports project, and feel that Ansheim is the number one market and the number one site that they would recommend in the country for the facility. Their conclusion was based on two things: one was, as you already know, that this is obviousiy an enormous tourist area but a tourist is not our main business. You heard Michael talk about families, I need you to hear that because when we talk about some of the spo~ts that are going on in here we really are gearing this towards the family experience and there are 15 million people that live within this market area that really do support the "bread and butter" business of this project. The tourist is an added extra we'd love to add to that ameniry base in the City qf Anaheim. Frankly, this is a 3 to 5 hour experiences for a tourist that comes into this market. He may come in as a repeat which would be great and we'd love to extend the stay as we look at those experiences for a tourist who comes to this market and hopefully extends their stay in a hotel. The fact of the matter is we are just adding to that amenity base. We are in no way a competition for Disneyland, you know that. This is not a full day attraction nor are we charging a fuil day gate for this but it is adding to the existing amenity base and we feel very proud of that, but it is the residenlial market, the residents in this ai ea both in Anaheim and across the County and further outreaching a good 30 miles away. We are reaching into that market base that really supplies the bread and butter support for this project. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to walk you through real quickly, if I can, ttie site plan. I'll start by just telling you, again, to give a little bit of assurance that we've spent a lot of time with staff and staff has been terrific to work with on this project and we do have a long history in working on this site. There are enormous complications when it comes to designing this site and it comes with encumbrances of the Stadium lease, of fixed access points, Amtrak and a number of ihings I am sure you have questions about. I will !et you get to those when we get there. But we have spent a lot of time studying those and we're fairly satisfied that rve have come to conclusions as we've created that matrix that we fit within the box that satisfies ail of those things. Starting with the fact that there is a signed lease with the Anaheim Anyels that we respected as we went through the design of this. So you will have questions about everything from building heights to reflectivity, I heard a question about that, was it over here? The issues of signage, issues of parking, al! of those things we tried to address in some of detail and feel comfortable that we can address and satisfy the terms of the lease. This site starting with the fact that on this master plan we are indicating the office building goes, as you remember in relationship to what Summit Commercial shared with you, off State College. There is an entry off State College over here for that office building. The main entry for `he Gotcha Glacier and the retail around it happens off Katella Boulevard. That is the main ingress and egress, although obviously we will take ingress and egress off State College as well as a relief. The Tinseltown building is indicated right here, which exists today, and the Gotcha Glacier building is right next to that. What we did is develop a si!e plan that created synergy around the no~th part of what has been known as the Sportstown site. It is roughly about 45 or 50 acres, it depends how you look at the last load zone for the Stadium and the parking issues. It is roughly around 45 to 50 acres of area that you see for the Stadium in the black outline. We focused intentionally the critical mass of the retail and the attraciions up ir the northern part of the site. The reason we started to do that is a couple of fold, one is that we look at the development of iiie Gotcha Glacier which is 435,000 square feet that Michael described to you as being the centerpiece, the main attraction, and when Michael described the facility and the different components you need to appreciate that there are two major entrances into the building itself that are actually feeding separate attractions. The downstairs area feeds the water park and the skate park is realiy fed off this entry over here. The upstairs area and the Board Room is really fed from the front entrance aver here, two front doors. So an issue that we had to grapole with is that we looked at how do you create a pedestrian atmosphere around those front doors. We wanted to feed retail off those front doors. As you can image, as we circle people in and out we wanted to feed on the outside of that to create not only a pleasant experience but, hopefully, one that would encaurage people to shop, dine or 04-12-99 Page 19 whatever the attraction might be. So you will see there are two front doors identified and they are physically separate, we needed to point that out to you why we did that. As we look at ihat issue we also know that we are not going to necessarily get an enormous amount of cross over of people that are going surf and ski in one day. I'll give them a badge if they do, I think that is great if they do. We won't necessarily get a lot of that in one day but we are going to get number of people that are going to want to see both events. As Michael described, in the interior of this facility we have public areas in both of the Board Room and on the wade park where people can hang out and look at what is going on inside. We will have controls so we do not have loitering and that kind of thing, if you may be asking that question, but we wili have public access areas so people can enjoy the events that are c~oing on within the facility. So that is why we wanted to create this circulation bebNeen the two front doors. As I mentioned we have the Gotcha Glacier facility here, iPs 435,000 square feet. We have the retail experience around the outer perimeter creating a pedestrian street, pedestrian only, going down the promenade of the front side of the Glacier, if ycu will. And then we created another critical mass at the front door of the Glacier over here which has visibility to the 57 Fwy. The Amtrak station is located back over here and our purpose was t~ try to create a strong pedestrian connection and an interesting pedestrian connection back over to the Stadium and, hopeFully, into the Gotcha Glacier itself. You'll notice that we created auto circu(ation that circles around ;he building and goes in front of Amtrak for both busses, shuttles and taxis, as well as Amtrak patrons who will park and use the Amtrak station. So we do have a slight separaticn between the building and the pedestrian area. There will be an auto circulation that happens bar,k here. The back of house for the Gotcha Glacier takes place back here where we have trash, energy and other types of storage things that happens on the back side of the building, and that would be on the north side of the building for reference on your plan. Those are described as kind of the functional aspects. In tutal, what you will see here is 435,000 square feet of Gotcha Glacier and on this master plan you see a total of 135,OOQ square feet of retail that surrounds it. Our contract reads that wE would build 40,000 square feet of that retail in Phase 1 which is this plan right here, the Phase 1 only plan. By contract that is whaYs what we have to deliver in Phase 1 but we have in that same contract an ability to exercise an option for an additional 60,000 square feet and we will work ciosely with staff to see what additional increments we can deliver beyond that and we would like to do tfiat. We need to work out some details on that and frankly the staff is not only looking at the details of the economics but also on how those pieces fit together and how the retail circulates around. Our main focus is this Phase 1 plan that you see before you. I share the master plan only to give you a connection so you can understand what we are tryiny to achieve in the master plan of this project. We feel very comfortable that we have addressed an enormous number of issues. I probably haven't given the plan full justice but I might be here for a couple of hours if I did, so what I'd like to do at this point we have between the models and the site plan. Let me clarify before I share with you some of the building elevations and the material boards. Today what we are doing is sharing with you the master plan for the building and the building locations. This is really our first step. We've delivered to ihe City staff a schematic package. It included schematics on signage and elevations. I only share with you these things in context, we are not asking for an action on these tonight. You may have some questions about them so we decided to bring them out and show you where we are the work in progress. We felt this is a big enough project and a c~mplicated enough project that it was appropriate to bring forward to you the work in progress so that we're all in the right step. So that is what we are doing tonight. Su again, these are the elevations and what we're looking at is a schematic signage package very similar in context to what happened at the Stadium and whaYs happening at the Stadium Crossing and that is this larger than life representations of what happens within the facility itself. Baseball bats and baseball helmets at the front door of the Stadium. In our case iYs action sports and action sports that you can interact with in lhe facility are things that are represented in scale on the sides of this building. It's a very 04-12-99 Page 20 tali building, you probably have noticed in both the model and in some of the elevations that it's over 180 feet tall at its highest end and it scales down to 95 feet ~verbal confirmation from Jorge] at the ~mal1est end. So it is bigger than a bread box. In dealing with a buiiding of that size, I know you foiks are going to contend with this as we coma back with the signage and elevations. How do we appropriately treat that? We would love to solicit some opinions as we're moving forvvard although, again, the action today really isn't focused on elevations of signage, we just want to share with you those in context. Having said that, I don't know if i have covered all the d2tails. Probably enough to solicit some questions at this time so if I could I would like to open up to questions. We have our architect with us and other operational people as well. Commissioner Bostwick: The letter that was addressed to Richard Bruckner from ELS Architects was very on point and their number 7 was vehicie circulation around the project for servicing a drop off and pick up particularly at the railroad station is too constricted and impeded by parking in the current plan. I would have to agree with them. Also handicapped parking. You've indicated parking for busses off to the side but if you go into Phase 2 where you've put the retail up front you loose ail the parking up close that could be handicapped. So what is your proposal for that? Richard Bruckner: Mr. Commissioner, let me jump in forjust a second. Many of those comments addressed... at the time that review happened, we weren't real clear on the Phase 1/Phase 2 questions and with the Phase 1 going fonnrard. Actually Brian putting that up really helps, you can see how Phase 2 really impacts the train station. We feel much more comfortable with Phase 1 that there is sufficient room around the Glacier. When you stark to place those Phase 2 structures, wo think it needs additional work. So it is one of ultimate design as opposed to Phase 1. Brian Myers: One of the things that we wers grappling with and finally decided with staff where we should go is that our contract talks about Phase 1 and what to deliver in Phase 1. The master plan talks about the concept. So the comments that you just gave agreed with some of the comments that we got from staff, things that we have to grapple with now as we think about a Phase 2 and how that gets designed. Again, what we are sharing with you, if am I correct here, is Phase 1. The only reason I share with you the rest is to solicit comments like that, exactly like that, on how we grapple with Phase 2. Part of the reason we decided to take that approach, to answer specifically, is that we need to address it with specific tenants in mind when we get to Phase 2. The footprints might be different, they might be different scale when we get to Phase 2. There was a requirement that we look at a master plan to solicit comments. To take these comments in context with what we would come forward to you with on Phase 2. Is that correct? Richard Bruckner: Yes, ihank you, Brian. I also think it is little bit rare that we share those comments from our internal review but we wanted to get those out there so you can give us a good direction of where we're headed. Commissioner Bostwick: One of the other areas is the back of the building, closest to Tinseltown, that is a driveway or araa of access it seems awfully constricted. If that is a major artery for traffic flowing through, I don't see how you're going to get the tra~c in and out of there and circulate around the whole project. Brian Myers: If I could address that? There are two things thai I'll point out as constraints and then we'll come back and address that issue in particular. Firsi of all, I believe our proposal is to only take bus and taxi access around the back of the house. We are ce;tainly not encouraging nor would we even have signage that would encourage a customer to go back of the house as a regular route of cireulation. Now, understanding that soma people will do that, I will nct disagree wiih what you said. People go where the path of least resistance is and we have heard that already. We are fixed in certain locations here within the fact that we have a sight line or demarcation line or a rt strict~on from the Stadium lease that says that we can not build past this line here. That dash line is actually here on the plan. And then of course we have the existing Tinseltown building. So working within those parameters is how we came up with that plan. We have since taken our landscape plan, we have star!ed to work a little bit, if you notice here with some of the landscape edge over here and possibly could have expanded access versus that landscape edge that happens at the back of the house. 7hat was one of tho early comments that we got about what 04-12-J9 Page 21 happens on the back side oF that building which is IiteraAy the back of the house for Tinseltown as well. I can assure you because it is the back of the house for both the Glacier and for Tinseltown we will not encourage customers to go back there, but they go where they go. We can't restrict them from going back there. But ihis is certainly not our major circulation access. Planning Commission Chairman Bristol: Brian, what are your hours of operation at your other facilities? Brian Myers: The typicai weekend hour of operation would be 6:00 a.m. to Midnight. Planning Commission Chairman Bristol: Everyday? Brian Myers: Yes, it would be ;he same on a weekday. Commissioner Koos: Back to the parking spaces. You're either talking about Phase 1 or 2. Are you going to charge for parking? You are right? Brian Myers: Do you want to address that, Richard, or do you want me to1 Richard Bruckner: Let me just preface it before we get into whether we charge. There are some significant operational issues and signage issues with patrons coming to Tinseltown, patrons coming to the office building and the Glacier, let alone the Angels. Greg Smi;h from Stadium Oper2tions has been meeting with all the parties and trying to sort out a package with Mr. Lower from Transportation, that works. We are exploring charging for parking and the refunding sa that we don't mix Stadium patrons with Sportstown patrons and there are certainly a separate serious of issues that go along with tha office building. It is one of the knottier issues in thi~ process. But working with Greg on the Stadium and Stadium Operations, we think we have some solutions for that. We are also struggling with is there enough parking and we think we have answe~ed that. Commissioner Koos: Are you going to start charging train users? Richard Bruckner: We can't charge train users for parki~g but in the past, a little history, in the past there have been train users who came in during the Angels game and were charged and then got refunded. There was an operationa! issue. Commissioner Koos: Just last week I took the train from there instead of Fullerton because I wanted to go to the game and for some reason I had to lease anyway, but that is neither here nor there, but I left the Stadium from the Amtrak parking lot and I saw the Ogden folks or whoever operates the parking checking with binoculars the people who said they were coming in to use the train and I heard them talking on the walkie-talkies. So even with the abundant parking we have today they are already kind of cautious about it and with this taking up so much parking it is going to be a mess. Richard Bruckner: There is potential for confusion, especially on ooening night this year there was some confusion. We are working through those issues and we will actualiy have the site that you see on that master plan cordoned off for Sportstown parking ar.d we'll accommodate all of the Angels' leased parking remaining cn the Stadium site. Joel Fick: I think it is important to note ihat the lease agreement with the Angels is very clear that there are 12,500 parking spaces, 500 of which can be located off site. Also just operationally as Richard mentioned there will neec~ to be additional agreements that the attorneys have been working on which are aperations agreements which deal with that parking issue. Commissioner Koos: I just hope that amrthing that is wurked out is not a deterrent for people to use the train station. They can just as well say they are going to go to Orange or Fullerton, and iPs an opportunity that they might miss. Commissioner Wohlwend: In Los Angeies and Ful~erton they do charge for long-tenn 04-12-99 Page 22 Commissioner Koos: Not in Fullerton, none of the other ones that he can think of charge for parking on the Metrolink lines. Brian Myers: There is a lease in place that has to be i~onored that provldes at a maximum 405 spaces for train patrons. Plannir~g Commission Chairman Bristol: Joel, when you talk about off site are you talking abo~t Sportstown7 Joel Fick: The lease agreement actually has provision that up to 5C0 parking spaces actually could be provided off-site within close proximity of the Stadium. Planning Commission Chairman Bristol: (Did not speak directly into the microphone.) Asked if it included Sportsto~,vn. Joel Fick: Correct. Carnmissioner Wohiwend: Does this plan exclude the 500 So it moves off site? Brian Myers: No it doas not. Someone asked if it was still on site with this plan7 Joel Fick: Yes. Richard Bruckner: The 500 is Angel employees, so iPs not for patrons Commissioner Bostwick: Are you planning to use the parking that is directly south of the facility as the main parking area. In other words, if traffic comes in off State College or Katella, are you going to direc; them into those lots primarily so that they don't go around to the back side. Brian Myers: We have 2 issues that we have focused on. One is game day, which is anywhere from 80 to 80Q events and a certain operating period as weil. Outdoor stadiums typically are around less than 100 events, but it is what it is when they get there. The reason I point it out is that on non-game days there are no issues and they really do have access to the full parking lot. Certainly in the off season, meaning in the winter months, which frankly are prime operating months for us and for the retail, those are times in which we can take advantage of the full parking lot. Having said that, on the game day which is somelhing we focus on a lot, the main front doors are here and here, and they would like to have even distribution of parking on both sides. In Phase 2 that is a lot easier to accommodate than it is in Phase 2 and you have already run across the issue of when you expand Phase 2 in this direction and start to pinch off some of the parking. To be honest, when you look at Phase 2 and where we put the retail, we would like to put some sort of critical mass retail at the front door of fhe Glacier because we think it makes sense. The retailers are going to tell us, unless they have a feel for the parking out there 365 days a year that they can count on, that customers are not going to gu over thera. So to be honest with you, we have to work through that issue and there is a fine balance. Tnere is a fine line as to how much retail can we put at that front door, before the retail raises his hand and says I can't go over there any more. That fine baiance is probably going to be somewhere in between the master plan that I shared with Commission, and some of the concerns that we have over it, and what they see there. IPs going to be somewhere +n between the two. The reason we show the master plan is to flush out these issues right now, which we are doing. The focus is on the Phase 1 plan which does have an even distribution of parking. Commissioner Wohiwend: One more point about Mr. Bostwick's concern about the busses and that type of thing. They are in a tourist area and I would like to think that the hotels are also going to support this, which would mean more shuttles and there's a lot aiready. Would that be the same with City busses, would it all be up in the bus queuing area, and this paving? 04-12-99 Pafle 23 Brian Myers: This Phase 1 plan shows some enhanced paving of pedestrian connection between the front door of the Glacier going on down to the Stadium and the train station. Some sort of physical link happens there. The taxi queue and parking for busses are things that we have be~n working out with staff and talking about. This is probably not a final configuration meaning it is exactly how many busses will be there. We understand this business as well, so I can say they are ce~tainly not goir3 to be in the business of trying to preclude bus and shuttle access beczuse that feeds the business. We have shown a concept where the bus access and parking wouid go in tt.is part of ~„e site and we have talked about a concept on the parking plan wtiere Amtrak patrons would ~=.rk. When we talk about controlling the access on game days, because on non-game days we don't have the issue but on game days when we control that access, we really do have that whole issue with validation, making sure the train customer gets taken care of, that the Stadium patrons hop~fully is precluded fr~m parking on this site. But we are goir~g to go to an area which we think is easy access, and we are going to try to make a model that is cordoned off for Sportstown and Amtrak patrons only in this ar?a_. Commissioner Wohlwend: (Did not speak directly into the microphone.] I wanf to make sure that we are sensitive to the traffic ard tourists that are being dropped off by shuttie and busses. If it is over by Amtrak we may be impeding them. Another question, from one of lhe drawings that we saw, it looked like three lanes, is it three lanes on both sides? Brian Myers: It is correct. Commissioner Wohiwend: !s it three lanes off State Gollege as well? Brian Myers: I believe it is two lanes off State Colle~r;, I'm pretty sure thaPs correct Commissioner Wohlwend: On the plans that wer~ submitted there was another bu!Iding which I didn't see and I didn't see it on anything that they have, what was that or was it an old drawing? Brian Myers: Actually the original Sportstown plan called for 2 hotels on the site and one of the issues that staff has been requesting of us, when you develop the master plan do not praclude 2 hotels. So what you will find, as a matter of fact, what you saw one on the earlier renderings was that this is where they go, that space is left here and here and the reason why we don't show it on this plan is we don't want to confuse what we're delivering with t'hase 1. It is just a graphic issue. Having said that, I also want you to understand that and appreciate this as well, that in all of our parking models, we included the parking for full buildout of the 500 rooms of hotel as well. It was very important that we preserve the parking and staff has been adamant that we make sure that we preserve the economic value of the hotels or the site so we have done that. Richard Sruckner: To further that point, the agreement with Gotcha provides for the development of the Gotcha Glacier and the 100,000 square feet of retail. The City retains the right to future development there including the hotel. We may work with Gotcha, we may work with someone else but we want to maintain that. Because of the potential ground lease revenue and TOT to the City. Commissioner Tikker: (Did not speak directly into the microphone.J Asked about shuttle service from the parking lot. Erian Myers: Within the parking lot itself, we dan't envision a shuttle, however, we will be participating in the, as you are aware, Citywide shuttle system being proposed, linking the resort to this area of town. Between that and light rail there is a lot of conversation on how that connects. But specifically on the site, no we are not proposing a shuttle at this time. We started to look at where most likely the office customers were going to park, which is near the front door of the office building. Stadium patrons being in the 11,000 spaces here on garrie day and the convenient parking for Sportstown being here and here. The distances that one would walk from their car would be not dissimilar from any of the entertainment centers that you would go to today. Commissioner Tikker: i'm just thiiiking of carry;ng around kids in the parkinc~ lot 04-12-99 Page 24 Brian Myers: To be honest wiih you, and you saw this happen at the irvine Entertainment Center, that as construction of further phases was gofng on, they did in fact provide a shuttle for customer convenience. The customer starts to speak to the developer over here who is actualiy building the facility and whe~ the custom~r says I've go kids that I won't briny back unless you provide a shuttie, they'li listen and do what is appropriate. Commissioner Tikker: (Did not speak directly into the microphone.] Asked 2bout parking for vendors, for infant toddier care, for families. Brian Myers: ThaYs a good question, do you want to speak to that? Michael Girard: We are staying away from daycare business at this point but we will accommodate small children. Commissioner Pinson: Your maximum oc~upancy, thaPs including your particioants and spectators, employees? What would it be for the Giacier section, maximum? Michael Girard: Every area is different, but totally for the entire faciliry per day, including just walk through traffic and during events, what do you think Brad? Brad Kinney: To honest with you, if we have a big event going on, it could be up to 5,000 peopie at one time in the building, if we have a big competition r ~~ .~ with all operations going. That would be the maximum capacity between 4,000 and 5,000 at one time inciuding all the employees. But typical daily oper2}0on wili be much less than that. It will be approxima!ely 1,000. Commissioner Wohlwend: (Did not speak directly into the microphone.] Asked about Fire Departmenf access. Brad Kinney: (Did not speak into the microphone.J Responded that they have been going through all the standard reviews. Brian Myers: In answer to your question, yes, ~ve are working with the Fire Department right now, when we talk about the special events Brad was just eluding to, those would only take place in times when we have coordinated with the Stadi~:m, there is no event taking place in the Stadium so we accommodate both parking and access issues related to that. That is one of the reasons why we are bringing Ogden o~ board as a partner, to help us out with those coordinatio~~ issues. So we coordinate both with the Stadium and the Arena when we talk about those events and when they take place. Commissioner Bostwick: Regarding circulation to Amtrak, how do you propose to provide it? Brian Myers: The rough concept on this plan, the circulation for busses and taxi's and shuttles is proposed to take place like this. In discussions with staff we're most likely looking at parking over here or back in here for an Amtrak customer. Frankly we're working over those operational issues as to where the best place to designate Amtrak customer parking. The typical Amtrak customer on a non-game day event has very simple circulation that takes place, that comes out here and comes back out here for an auto. For busses and taxi's and shuttles, they ~~~ill most likely circulate back of house that way. Planning Gommission Chairman 3ristol: Are you ooing to put them in the area you can't park in... are you at 100 spaces far Amtrak? Richard Bruc~:ner: 405 at absalute mazimum, minimum of 105, is that correct John? John Best: Four hundred five spaces is the contractual agreement with Amtrak. We wil! pro•ride them 405 spaces. Commissioner Tikker: (Did not speak directly into the microphone.J Asked about water usage 04-12-99 Page 25 Brian Myers: Actually there is a recirculation system within the buiiding itself, so it isn't quite as intense as you might think. Although the start up operation is and we've been working closely with ail of the departments. i'm not an engineer so I'm sorry I can't answer that question directly, although if you would like, I could get that number for you. Let's just say that in standard operation, it is recirculated. That is correct and there are also reserves within the building and holding tanks and that type of thing. Planning Commission Chairman Bristol: Why don't we go on to elevation. How are you going to hide the most massive structure? Commissioner Bostwick: Steve started this off, but let me make the comment that I made in this morning's session. The fact that, earlier in this period of time, we built an ice skating rink downtown that has gotten many many complaints from the citizenry of this City. We have this wonderful quonset hut downtown. Now you have a proposal for another huge quonset hut-like something, how are you yoing to hide it or at least do some kind of architectural treatment that is going to be acceptaC~e to the citizens of Anaheim. Chairman Bristol: No disrespect, believe me. Brian Myers: I don't take it as disrespect, as a matter of fact. Jorge (Anibarroj, why don't you come join me over here. One of lr~e things that we sre looking at, and again in concept, let me pull out the material boards and I'll let Jorge spealc to this specifically, His articulating the building through different materials and using pneumatic signage to break up the mass of the buildin~. It really is based on those issues. I know that we said early on that we are going to come back to you and show you the details. You're coming up with the issues that we grapple with a lot. Frankly, the staff talks a lot about this, a 180 foot tall face, how do you deal with that? Commissioner Wohlwend: IPs taller than the Stadium Brian Myers: It is taller than the Siadium? You're exactly right. Yo~ can see in perspective here, this is in scale, you can see, iYs a small scale, but you can see that it is taller than the Stadium. Point being is that we are working on this and I'm going to describe beiore Jorge gets into this. We are working this in layers, I think it is a mistake to look at this as one big face a^d how do you treat a face with one material or twc materials. We're looking at this as vistas. We are trying to create vistas, not only in the building itself, but also what surrounds it. So ~,ve're looking at how a persor views this up close and from far away. We really do have those two issues, I'll let Jorge speak a little to that. Jorge Anibarro, Feola - Archuleta Architects: I think the main stud~ we're doing on this is that it is a tall structure, but, when you think about it, the mass of the Stadium overshadows our building in terms of the area it covers. So it reads a lot lar~e~•. V1~hen you do the study of this building, it is layere~ in sequence because you have the retail areas that step down from the main mass of the building. It has some towers around the area in the retail that make it rea~i a lot lower than what it would be. The landscaping alone wouid help on that area because you would oe seeing it from State College or Katella Avenue in the studies that we've done in perspectives. Pedestrian level does sfiow the corners and areas that we've got ort the graphics and exterior of it, making it read a little more lively and less of a mass. The roof and the curved areas of the roof are friendly and they're expanses ihat would be treated with a material like this. It is metal essentially, iYs the roof surface and is commonly known as sustaining seam metal. "~ his is one of the pallets that we are choosing from to compliment the curtain wall glazing that we have ane:, taking your comment into this regarding the reFlectivity of it. The glazing itself is sloped inwards, so if there is any reflection, actually it would be low. It wouldn't be towards the Stadium. Also, the area that is shown here on the parking field looking at the Stadium itself, the line of sight from the batter, iPs glazed that way, that is what is known as a no build zone, so you wouldn't be able to flank that area or cover it. Going back to the actual material of the wall, iPs c4;led EIFS, which is an external insulation foam panei that is covered with a material pretty s~milar stucco or plaster. Since the mass of the building is essentiaily large, just about anything you use would read a very smooth surface. This is the building material that would complimeni the bluegreen glass that we're using and 04-12-99 Page 26 would atso be used in the retail areas. It allows you to see thraugh and be able to sell merchandise without treating the colors in a different manner. This is the hardscaping, the paving, the feel of the hardscape on the pedestrian areas and these are the tiles or boarders that would essentially show ~vhero the patterns are. That would happen through the Amtrak station going down south to the Stadium. Commissioner Bostwick: Are you planning giass on that back end, massive end? If you get off on tha freeway., and turn onto Katella Avenue, you can see Tinseltown from there. You can see ths water tower, the building and you are talking about a building that is 3 times that, that is going to stick up in the air. Is th2re going to be glass on that back end7 Jorge Anibarro: You're referring to the west elevation here behind Tinseltown7 No, it is not glass, thaYs the facade that you will be seeing from State Coilege and Katella. Richard Bruckner: Maybe it would help if you could describe how you're going to treat the signage and the images along with the structure you're building. Commissioner Bostwick: Are you going to put signage on the back end of the building? Jorge Anibarro: This is essentially the area that shows the graphics.and the way that is going to be treated is mounted on that structure next to the building and this has panels that are called trivision. They have a certain amount of motion so you can show one figure one moment and then another one. IPs representative of what happens inside of the facility. It is sports minded. Commissioner Bostwick: So you're going to have that on the west elevation, you're going to have a rock that is going to protrude on the glacier up at the top of it and on the panels, signage all on that side. Jorge Anibarro: That is one of the aspects that we're seeing here. This won't protrude any further than it would on 5 feet or so, but that represents a rocE;. We're trying to make it look exactly like it. ThaPs what we're investigating at this time. The facade that you are referring to, thaPs the west and right in frant of it you wouic have Tinseltown. Commissioner Bostwick: So the material up there, is the field behind that signage? Jorge Ai~ibarro: That is correct. Comr,iissioner Bostwick: You're going to have your signage coming up, you have the glass in there and we',•e got two Glacier signs at the top. Chairman Bristol: Is that the height of th~ sign or is it the building? Jorge Anibarro: That is 172 up to that point. Jorge Anibarro: They will probably be about 8 feet off the building. Redevelopment and Housing Chairman Karczynski: ThaYs the farthest depth piece there. Jorge Anibarro: Yes, that's the tallest piece of the building too. Redevelopment and Housing Chairman Karczynski: Is that structure the furthest structure at the building. Jorge Anibarro: Yes it is about 8 feet on average. Redevelopment and Housing Chairman K~rczynski: (Did not speak into the microphone. j Asked if it is going to be a relief orjust a panel? Jorge Anibarro: It will be a relief. 04-12-99 Page 27 Joel Fick: Whiie you are looking at that, l think it important to emphasize that these are the current concept ldeas and plans as Brian mentioned. These are the work in progress. Staff has yet to go through the review of all of this and comment. The Commission wili ba seefng tnis back again, signage plans, elevation plans. Commissioner Pinson: (Did not speak directly into the microphone. j She felt it was a large structure. Jorge Anibarro: Answered yes, it is a large building. Commissioner Wohiwend: Asked if they had any pictures of any projects that they have done before that are similar. Brian Myers: LePs be real specific about that, there is not one that exists here in the United States. There are facilities that have similar types of activities across the world but in no way rzplicate what we are trying to do here at the Glacier. One of the things that we will bring back to you when we come with the elevation plans, is a media presentation that includes video, some of the activities that take place in there. That may be of some use, for example iYll show how the surf park works, which exists in several locations across the United States, as a compnnent but not as part of this one building. How ski parks work indoor, again as a co!~ponent but not as in this buildiny. One ~f the issues that we are grappling with is the fact when we try to communicate this project, it really does not exist and fhat is why we brought in the experts to implement this project. It doesn't exist today. We'll do our best in coming back to you and will take that as a point to come back with better representations of how the faciiity works. We appreciate that comment. Commissioner WQhlwend: I nuticed on the site plan first aid, x-ray clinic... In the architects specifications to the contractor, I assume for bidding, there is an allowance for landscaping for $700,000. I don't think that is anywhere close to enough and especially showing what you are showing. I think the staff should go back and ask for some more. In addition to that you show e water elevated driveway, is that part of the landscape budget7 Brian Myers: That is part of the part of the landscape/artscape budget. Let me just say that that is part of tha specifications. There are further contract requirements that by the end of May have to produce a detailed budget to the staff as well becoming a public record. We can go through that. These are very preliminary schematics. I will take that as a good point from you. In answer to your question, yes this water feature is something that we are proposing as a termination of this entry off Katella into the project. Trying to create layers of vistas, we want to create a vertical wall that someone sees in the foreground with the Stadium in t,ack. Commissioner Wohlwend. I think it is great that you thought to add it. Brian Myers: Point well taken on the budget issue. Commissioner Wohlwend: Security and cameras, I noticed on your site plan on the interior lhat you do have the security room, what kind of security are you used to having and knowing AnahPim like we do, what kind of security are you looking at doing here? Brian Mysrs: Our next presentation we'll take that point, I can have Ogden address that specifically for you since they are the operator and will be providing the securiry presence. There will be a very strong security presence on the site. Commissioner Wohlwend: yot just interior. Brian Myers: Exterior as well. You probably have noticed in the entertainment ~enters that they have even in Oranc~e County that a strong securiry presence is absolutely necessary. We're not ignorant t~ the issue, I can't answer specifics yet, but iPs a good issue. Commissioner Wohlwend: For the record my quastion was security. These are mostly for me to get on the ~ecord what my concerns are, not that you need to address them specifically this evening. I 04-12-99 Page 28 understand this is for information. The signaye 1 know is going to be a whole different package but I am concerned in not just height and volume, but the cost involved. This is a massive project. Lighting in the parking lot would be a concem especially for the pedestrian. Project financing, you pretty much told us about the partnership parameters. Could you just give us a glob~l of a project of this nature, are we talking 150 million, 200 million, what are we talking? Brian Myers: South of 100. Commissioner Wohiwend. South of 100, good. Brian Myers: Just for the Gotcha Glacier, not for the retail. Commissioner Wonlwend: In your construction documents, you talked about the base for the asphall which i think needs to be built up a little bit more for the bus turning radius, but thaYs my opinion. Are they looking at recycling the asphalt and using that as a base for the new parking lot? Brian Myers: The propos2l for the roadways is that we would provide new roadbeds. What we do with the existing asphalt frankly we'll be working out with Pubiic Works on whether it gets recycied or not. IYs a good point. Commissioner Wohlwend: Recycling would be a great effort on your part, if we could. About roof access for the architect, will that be from the interior so we don't see raof ladders or lifts on the outside. I was a little concerned with the retail, even though the expansion of the retail is Phase 2, where you would be taking delivery and trash for the retail. Brian Myers: For all of the retail that you see here, when you look at the floor pians and elevations for Gotcha Glacier, there's a utility corridor that is on the first floor almost at the central part of the building. In fact, the retail will be taking access to that, a common use of that utility corridor is to get back to the service areas back here. IYII be an easement for access for servicing going through the building. Again, you'll notice in the spine of the building itself, when you look at the floor plans, correct me if I am wrong here Jorge, there is a utility corridor that exists right about here, sloping roof and the water park ends, then right there is that spine for the utility corridor which is also a service access t~ get back here to a common trash and service location drop-off and delivery type access. Commissioner V`lohlwend: Where would the retailers for Phase 2 receive delivery of their goods? Brian Myers: Phase 2 for these areas right here, you're exactly correct, those in fact would have their own seroice areas and they woul~ have to be screened, if in fact they get built in this configuration. I'll tell you that one of the staffs comments was exactly that and that is how do we deal for this issue back in here and if we cannot have servicing areas on what would be considered a front elevation of the building. 1J~~e've taken that comment and we're addressing that comment architecturally. The same would go for these buildings as well. You have a facing elevation of this building that goes to the 57 freeway which is a pretty important face and it can't be a service area, back of house. Yes, we do have to deal with those issues, if in fact they show up in this exact configuration. Those issues have been brought up by staff as well. Commissioner Wohlwend: I understand that the spine utility issues. Brian Myers: Fairly common for malls to do that. Commissioner Wohiwend: The timing of each phase, you haven't really addressed that. Phase 1 is specifically, when do you want it...? Brian Myers: I haven't addressed that and let me talk about that, Phase 1 is something that we are putting together the schedule on. We have worked with Kajima Urban on that and we're looking at a yround breaking late this summer. By contract we have to deliver the Glacier facility by June of 2001, correct me if I am wrong staff. We are proposing in our schedule to deliver on January 1, opening night. 04-12-99 Page 29 January 1 st New Year's Eve night the real millennium celebration. 200 i is gofng to be quite a year here in Anaheim. Commissioner Wohlwend: The leasing and management for the retail operations, is that what Ogden will be working with you on1 Brian Myers: That is not Ogden, on operations and management of that as well as on the leasing of that, that is Jay Schottenstein as an investor with Gotcha and his retail expertise, which he is one of the largest retail developers in the Mid-West. He is helping bring to this as well as the retailers, he is bringing in tenants, tenants specific to that space. ThaYs why we can stand up with some confidence and say we know exactly what is going to happen in Phase 1. Phase 2, as staff has put this to us, as a matter of fact, for Phase 2 prove who your tenants are first, then we will talk about the configuration and how it works. Commissioner Wohlwend: Any kind of a connection to tF~e Pond? Brian Myers: As far as, help me out? Commissioner Wohlwend: Whether iYs pedestrian, it would be just basically be on foot on Katella right? Brian Myers: Yes, first of all we would Iove fo~ there to be a direct connection, obviously it would be to our benefit. There are, however, real physical limitations if you are aware of what happens along Douglass. In fact, there is no pedestrian right-of-way as one goes under the freeway, and thaYs a situation that is severely restricted by cost and everything else. How do you expand that? Having said that, though, there are a number of events that we are aware of through Ogden where they do park over here in the Stadium at off Stadium time for events that happen in the Arena and we would like to be able to share in that. In fact, I think what you'll see as we get into the operation of this, that to the extent that some oF the retailers and or restaurants that show up in this facility can see economic benefit, you will see shuttles show up. Very similar to what happened to the Catch (resfaurant] on Arena nights when they provide a shuttle system that takes a patron over there and convenient parking over here. You'll see systems like that and Ogden as a partner will help us coordinate ihat. We would love that there be a direct link. There are physical challenges. though. Commissioner Wohlwend: i totally understand and it would be great. ThaPs all I have, thank you for your time. Redevelopment and Housing Chairman Karczynski: What is the plan in place for marketing and advertising so we don't have another Tinseltown like we've got right now where they're having to cut back hours because they are not getting the draw they need. There are some real concerns about ttieir ~~ng- term success. Brian Myers: First of all, I won't speak about what is going on with Tinseltown other than to say that we hope adding this critical mass that we can help that. That was the original vision of Sportstown, to create a criiical mass, create synergy among the number of uses. We do have, as you can image, with our marketing partners with Gotcha and where they're goinc~ with their content and types of events a very aggressive marketing budget. We do have significant sponsors and media partners that are coming into this project as well. I will say this, that obviously when you start out a facility like this, for us, we need to be focused on our audience. I would say in a large pait with Tinse~town, the conventioneer who could be a important part of that audience is a little bit down right now because the Convention Center is under construction and we have to be patient with that. For us when we look at this, we are looking at opening dates that we hope coincide with a huge bump in tourism, with a resident market that is our number one focus. We're going to be focused on the resident market first, then the tourism market, then tne Convention business and any off times or events that we can host here as well. I know that doesn't answer your question directly but we talked a lot about who our audience is and who our focus is. Redevelopment and Housing Chairman Karczynski: ~Did not speak directly into the microphone.] Asked regarding entrance fees. 04-12-99 Page 30 Michael Girard: Each area will have iPs own ticketing program. Our ideal situation would be to have the entire f~ciliry in one network of computers and use a swipe card technology, bar code, swipe card or radio frequency device to activate different areas. The snow boarding cost is $25 for two and a haif hour session. Su~ng is anywhere from $15 to $20 dollars for 2 hour sessions, depending on which level of wave you ride. What we would like to do is have a very highly sophisticated ticketing program on the way in, so parents can buy the swipe card with a cash balance on it or they can tie it directly to their credit card and the kid can go swipe his way around, buy his lunch and buy his tee shirt or whatever. Not to mention that this technology exists all over now. IPs easy to do and we can capture tremendous demographic information which you can then use for direct mail as we move forward. Just to speak towards the marketing a little bit. There is a tremendous pent-up demand for this type of facility in the state and this market place. If you look at what is happening in society right now as these kids are coming up, it's all about surfing, skateboarding, music, saccer, kids, MTV, The X-games are a tremendous gauge of all that. The ESPN, MN's of the world, the Fox Sports Nets they all have a lot of dialogue with each other and there are tremendous, exciting opportunities for marketing. Not just to ihe residents, but also there's definitely a two tiered marketing approach. What we've already established our rela:ionship with the Anaheim Visitors and Convention Bureau, as well as the resident market, I think this is a tremendous opportunity. Redevelopment and Housing Chairman Karczynski: What kind of jobs will this create7 Michael Girard: Two hundred twenty, it sour,ds like a lot, but ~vhen you look at the facility open 16 hours a day, there is actually 3 roll overs through out the day. Brad Kinney: With sub-lease tenants iYll be more like 400. Brian Myers: I should also say when we talk about pricing, that it is a major topic of conversation with EF~P, as we're getting the pricing strategies. We're looking specifically at ski resort pricing and at other event pricing. We have all of those models in fron: of us and we're really doing a lot of work there. ! can assure you that we think we're going !o have a very good model at the end of the day on how we price it out. Is that all? Chairman Bristol: Thank you. ~ny comments? Joel Fick: Just to quickly summarize and conclude our portion. We are very much appreciative of the comments provided by all the Commission members. As a side note, the plan certainly will be reviewed as required by the Baseball Lease. There is lots of discussion about Disney and parking and appearance and all. They wiil be reviewed by Disney. It is very important to have both Commissions take a look at the conceptual site plan so the additional work can be done. We're also very appreciative of the hard work and quality teams assembled by both projects with Rod Oshita and his group and Brad Kinney, Michael a~d their team. Staff submitted a supplemental suggestion to the Planning Commission today. We've noted some findings in the report dated April 12 and there are 3 motions that we're suggesting that the Planning Commission take. The first determining that the previo~sly Ce~tified Environment impact Report No. 320 is ade ~uate to serve as the required environmental documentation for this request. Second, by moti~n that the Planning Commission does hereby receive and file the final schematic plans, Exhibits No.1 and 2 dated April 1 st for the master site plan for the first 2 phases of development in Spo~tstown Anaheim and the Gotcha Glacier building, including the ancillary retail buildings. As a side note not incorporated in the motion, of course you know all of the discussion that we have had today, you will see again in mu~h more detail. The third action, by motion, tfiat the Planning Commission receive and file the final building pians, again being different on the building side than the schematic overall site plan. ThaYs Exhibit No. 3 dated April 8th and the additional information presented at today's public meeting and labeled Exhibit No. 4 dated April 12th for the Summit Commercial Office Building. Those are the 3 suggested actions that the Planning staff and Community Development staff have for the Planning Commission. Chairman Bristol: We appreciate it, thanks, Joel 04-12-99 Page 31 Redevelopment and Housing Chairman Karczynski: I think at this point the Planning Commission has some actions so I thfnk if staff has nothing else for the Redevelopment and Housing Commission and we have no action on this being an information item, I'm going to adjourn the Redevelopment Housing Commission at this point and thank everybody for being here. Chairman Bristol: This was a great presentation and I have a 17 year old that can't wait until this is done. Commissioner Wohlwend: By then he'll be grown and in college. Commissioner Bostwick: Let me offer a motion to Planning Commission that the previously certified Environmental Impact Report No. 320 has adequately served as a required environmental documentation for this request. Commissioner Napoles: Second. Planning Commission Chairman Bristol: We have a motion and second, all those in favor say aye. Responded Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. Commissioner Bostwick: Joei, I have a little problem with the second one. My motion that Planning Commission hereby does receive and file the final schematic plans for Exhibits No.1 and 2, for the master site plan for the first 2 Phases. Since there are obviously going to be some major changes to the second phase and we accept Phase 1. Does that approve the Gotcha Glacier in its ClfegibleJ phase and then Phase 2 which is obviously going to be changed regarding circulation elements7 Joel Fick: I think the intention here is defined that the first phases includes the Summit Commercial Office building, the Gotcha Glacier building and the first portion of the ancillary retail. Commissioner Bostwick: So it's part of the 1st Phase and Gotcha Glacier is the 2nd Phase, then extra retail is 3rd Phase7 Richard Bruckner: For the purpose of this motion it would be the 250,000 square feet of office building through Summit, approximately 435,000 square foot Glacier, and approximately 40,000 square feet of retail development adjacent to the Gotcha Glacier. Call it Phase whatever but... does that help? Gommissioner Bostwick: I could go with that. Joel Fick: I'd even suggest that because there are multiple references to phases in different meetings, pull it out and just defining it as Richard described and iYs more specific. Commissioner Bostwick: The Summit building, Gotcha Glacier and the initial retail. Joel Fick: Correct. Commissioner Bostwick: I would make that motion that we hereby receive and file. Chairman Bristol: We have a motion to second, all those in favor say Aye, opposed, motion carried. Comrnissioner Bostwick: I offer a motion that the Planning Commission receive and file final building plans, Exhibit Nos. 3 and 4 for the Summit Commercial office building. Commissioner Napoles: Second. Chairman Bristol: We have a motion to second all those in favor say aye, opposed, motion carried 04-12-99 Page 32 J. a. CEQA EXEMPTION -SECTION 15061(bl(3~ Concurred w/staff b. CODE AMENDMENT N0. 99-04 - REQUEST ORDINANCE Recommended RELATING TO PLANNING COMMISStON REPORT AND adoption of the RECOMMENDATION ITEMS AND CONDITIONS OF APPRpVAL• ordinance to City City Initiated (City Attorney's O~ce), 200 South Matieim Blvd., Council Anaheim, CA 92805, requests the Pianning Commission recommend City Councii adoption of the proposed ordinance. ACTION: Commissioner Napoles offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Koos and MCTION CARRIED (Commissfoners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), that the Anaheim City Planning Commission does hereby concur wi!h staff that the proposed project falls within the definition of Categorical Exemptions, Class 15061(b)(3), as defined in the State ~IR Guidelines and is, therefore, categorically exempt from the requirements to prepare an EIR. Commissioner Bostwick offered a motion, seconded by Commissioner Koos and MOTION CARRIED (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat), that the Anaheim Cil~r Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council adoption of the draft ordinance attached to the staff report dated April 12, 1999. 30164.1 Cheryl Flores, Senior Planner: Sfated it was a request for an ordinance to codify policy and procedure that any matters considered by :he Commission as a reports and recommendations item is appealable to the Ciry Council. DiscussiQn Item: Selection of Planning Commission Representative for the Anaheim Union High Continued to School District Task Force. 4-26-99 04-12-99 Page 33 PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS: 2a. CEQA MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION 2b. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT N0. 362 Continued to 4-26-99 2c. RECLASSIFICATION NO. 98-99-10 by operation of law 2d. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT 2e. CONDITIONAL USE PERMiT N0. 4096 2f. TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP N0. 98-234 2g. SPECIMEN TREE REMOVAL PERMIT N0. 99•01 2h. REQUEST FOR CITY COUNCIL REVIEW OF 2a. 2c 2d 2e, 2f and 2a OWNER: City of Anaheim (Redevelopment Agency), 201 South Anaheim Boulevard,10th floor, Anaheim, CA 92805 County of Orange, Attn: Real Property Manager, PFRD Real Property, 300 North Flower Street, CA 92703 AGENT: Culbertson, Adams & Associates, Attn: Kevin Canning, 85 Argonaut, Suite 220, Aliso Viejo, CA 92656 LOCA'i'ION: 8200 East La Palma Avenue. Property is 16.27 acres located at lhe northwest corner of La Palma Avenue and Yorba Linda Boulevard. General Plan Amendment No. 362 - to amend the Land Use Element of the City of Anaheim General Plan ta redesignate this property from the Hillside Low-Medium Density Residential and General Commercial land use designations to the Commercial Professional land use designation. Reclassification No. 98-99-10 - to reclassify this property from the RS-A- 43,000(5C) (Residential/Agricultural; Scenic Corridor Ove;Iay) and the CL(SC) (Commercial, Limited; Scenic Corridor Overlay) Zones to the CO(SC) (Commercial, Office and Professional; Scenic Corridor Overlay) Zone. Conditional Use Permit No. 4096 - to permit a planned commercial office/light industrial center, including a semi-enclosed restaurant with sales of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, with roof- mounted equipment and building heights in excess of 35 feet with waivers of (a) minimum parking lot landscaping, (b) permitted type of commercial identification sign, (c) maximum area of commercial identification signs. (d) minimum site area per lot and (e) maximum structural height adjacent to a single-family residential zone. Tentative Parcel Map No. 98-234 - to permit an 11-lot (including one lot for landscaping) subdivision for the development of a commercial office/light industrial complex. Specimen Tree Removal Permit No. 99-01- to remove specimen Eucalyptus trees from this property with replacement at a ratio of two trees for every one tree removed. Continued from the Commission meeting of March 1, 1999. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT RESOLUTION N0. RECLASSIFICATION RESOLU710N N0. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION N0. 04-12-99 Page 34 0 • • ~ ~ • ~ ~ Chairman Bristol: Explained that they had an unusual circumstance today becauss they lack quorum to vote on iwo items, item No.1-G and Item NO. 2. Asked the City Attomey for legal opinion and comment. Selma Mann, Assistant City Attomey: Stated there was a Commissioner who had a conflict on these two items. Commissioner Bostwick: Declared a conflict of interest since he awns property within 1000 feet of subject properties. Selma Mann: Explained The Politicai Reform Act with regard public officials making a governmental decision when there is a conflict of interest. Regarding iter~i 1-F, and because a decision is legally required to be made within 40 days after the item has been submitted, or it shall be deemed a finding that the proposed acquisition or sale is in conformance with the General Plan. Thi~~ actfon is not in conformance with the General Plan therefore it is legally necessary for ti~e Planning Commission ta act today or it would exceed the 40 day period. They are invoking the rule of necessity of Section 87100 to permit Commissioner Bostwick to participate in the decision 1-F. Chairman Bristol: Asked Selma if there was no action on 1 G and 2. Selma Mann: Asked which one. Chairman Bristol: Stated 1 G and item 2. Selma Mann: Item 1-G will be continued by operation of law because you can't vote to offer a motion to continue it and the same for item 2. Chairman Bristol: Stated for those in audience who had an interest in item 2 and 1 G it will be continued for 2 weeks so they may leave. Chairman Bristol: Clarified !tem No. 1-G and Item No. 2 are continued. ACTION: Continued to the April 26,1999 Planning ~ct~mission meeting by operation of law. VOTE: No vote was taken. DISCUSSION TIME: This item was not discussed. 04-12-99 Page 35 3a. CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION Approved 3b. WAIVER OF CODE REQUIREMENT Approved 3c. GONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 4105 (READVERTISED) Granted for 3 years (cnurch) OWNER: Levon and Meline Keorjikian, 202 West Lincoln Avenue, (To expire 4-12-02) #E, Orange, CA 92865 AGENT: Ponderosa Property Management, 202 West Lincoin Avenue, #E, Orange, CA 92865 LOCATIAN: 3331-3339 East Oranaethorpe Avenue. Property is 1.21 acres located at the northwest corner or Orangethorpe Avenue and Crowther Avenue. To establish conformity with existing Zoning Code land use requirements for an existing commercial retail center and an existing liquor store with sales of ?Icoholic beverages for off-premises consumption and to establish a church within the same commercia~ ceiiter with waiver of minimum number of parking spaces. Continued from the Commission meeting of March 15,1999. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION N0. PC99-62 SR6935DS.DOC o • a • e • Applicant: Russ Manion, at 202 W. Lincoln Ave., Suite E in Orange, CA: He was present but did not give an opening statement. Chairman Bristol: Asked if F:e was owner of property? Russ Manion: Responded no, he owned Ponderosa Prope~ty Management that manages property for the owner. Chairman Bristol: Asked if Mr. Manion had read the re~ort? Russ Manion: They applied for a conditiona! use perrnit. There is a small church that has applied to be a tenant on the prc~perty. They received a list of conditions for the permit and he wants to address a number of conditions because they can not do all of them. Chairman Bristol: Asked if anyone in audience wanted to speak on this item, There were none, then asked Mr. Manion to proceed. Russ Manion: Continued as follows: Condition No. 19. Requires trees be installed at 20 foot intervals, which would 4e about 36 trees at a cost of about $2,300 plus cost of irrigation. The owner or church cannot afford to do this. A compromise proposal would be to install 18 trees at every 40' and do~vnsize to 10 gallon rather than 15 gallon. He also requested to have 9 months to complete it. Condition No. 21. Asks owners to relinquish current restaurant permits that they already have. The owner wants to retain rights to put a restaurant there in case space becomes available agzin. Condition No. 24. Has to do with providing adequate light to parking lot. They feel the current lightfng is adequate. They provided plan to City several months ago. If it is not adequate they want to kr~ow how much it will cost. Someone from City contacted them that morning and advised them to have a test done to see if lighting was adequate. 04-12-99 Page 36 • ~ondition No. 26. Eleven trees that go in cutouts in sidewalk are trees that the City maintains. The owner feels the City should be responsible for them. • Condition Nos. 31 and 34. The owner would like to re!?in the cunent sign locations that khey have rather than remove existing sfyns on side of building and would agree to get City approval prior to adding new signs or making chsnges 3o present signs, Existing tenants would be upset if their advertising was taken away from them. • Condition No. 33. Requires changes be made to the large sign on the comer. They thought the issue was going to be dropped but the revised list they received on Friday says they have to pull permit or remove it. The owner has agreed to clean and repair sign and they do not see need to pull a permit for a sign that has been the~e since building was built. They are hesitant to pull a permit for a sign because they do not know what the consequence would be. • Condition No. 35. This is a new item since Friday and request a clarification. • Condition Nos. 38 and 39. The church needs to immediately occupy prooerty and would compiete all items within 3 months, with the exception of Condition No. 21, where they request 9 months to complete. They had a serious problem are Condit~on Nos. 6 through 17 which affect the liquor store. Th:: liquor store has never cooperated with them on anything. Their rent pays most of the mortgage. Liquor store owner is adamant about not cooperating with any of the conditions and would like to see all these conditions removed. Chairman Bristol: He stated that applicant is as!~~ng for a conforming use inside of a non-ccnforming use and these are typical conditions ~mposed. Russ Manion: The liquor store has a financial control over the property thari the owner would like. If thpy can get the other space leased, it would reduce the amount of control that liquor store currently has. Chairman Bristol: He was at ~he site on Sunday morning and noticed that the church was already in. Run Galia-Rini, Pastor of thE; church: Stated they meet on Sunday morning for work detail. Everythin~i t;.et is done for the cfwrch i:~ done in their homes. They've gone insic+.e to work on church such as putting in new carpet etc., but they are not meeting there as a church. Commissioner Bostwick: Suggested the applicant call the telephone company and request that they remove the public phones since he is the property manager. The liquor store does not lease outside of building, strictly inside and has no control of outside. He asked if there were any video yames inside? Russ Manion: Stated he did not think there were any. Commissioner Bostwick: Advised Mr. Manion to inform the tenant that he can not have it. There is nothing in the cor.ditions that will change the liquor store's form of operatie~ other than the phone and window signage. Condition No. 6 can be deleted, but there is a condition in the City Ordinance that only permits a percentage of window surface that can be painted which Code Enforcement c~~ enforce. Regarding the trees, the difference in cost for a 10-gallon tree is very minimal. Commission usually requests the 25-boxed tree, so a 15-gallon tree request shnuld be maintained. As far as relinquishing the conditional use perm:;, the owner can reapply. Chairman Bristol: Asked how long the liquor store was open? Russ Manion: Currently the hours are 6:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Sunday through Thursday and 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. Friday and 8aturday. He sees Code Enforcement as a~enefit. He asked what the consequerces to the owner and himself, as a property manager, if single beers were sold instead of six packs7 Commissioner Bostwick: Stated Code Fnforcement can cite him for the violation of the conditional use permit. 04-? 2-99 Pzge 37 Russ Manion: Asked ir'they ~eceive a new permit and store owner does not follow compty, can the property manager or owner be cited? Don Yourstone, Senior Code Enforcerr;ent Officer: This is a condition that is usually placed on service stations with mini-mart and has not been placed on liquor stores in the past. He did not know of any other liquor store in the City that has this condition. Chairman Bristol: Asked if it should be there? Cheryl Flores: Normaliy it is used with service stations and they can eliminate the ~ondition being . " is a liquor store. Commissioner Koos: Asked whether the windows signage and anything else is the code violatiun is the responsibiliry of the owner or operator? Don Yourstone: Responded if a single can of beer was sold, the attendant on ~uty would get a citation. It is done in conjunction with the Police Department. Commissioner Koos: Asked if code violations in general, such as window signage, would go to operator or ~an~ owner? i Yourstone: It could go to both operator and land owner. Land owner is the ultimate person re~ponsibie fo~• the property. Commissioner Bosiwick: Stated there was a question about the future sic~nage on Condition No. 35 that it be subject to approval as a t2eports and Recommendations item. It would return to Commission so if owner is planning to put signs up for future tenants, they go back to Commission for approval and signs wou'd need permits. Chairman Bristol: Asked Ivis. Flores if staff knew how for,g Coditional Use Permit Nos. 2490 and 1937 had not been in operationl Cheryl Flores, Senior Planner: Responded that she did not know when they closed. She would have to verify with the Business License '~ivision . She understands that the church is going into a space that was occupied by the restaurant and if that is the case, the conditional use permits would have to be terminated. If the church was to leave and a restaurant wanted to go back in, staff would like to see a new conditional use permit to cover request. Current CUP's have on-sale beer and wine but ABC license may not still be in effect. C~mmissioner Boslwick: Asked Ms. Flores whether the applicant needs to obtain an electrical cont~actor to conduct a study? Cheryl Flores: Asked Mr. Manion who he submitted the pians to? Russ Ma~~O~n: He was not certain and thought it was to the Police Department. Cheryl Flores: Usually plans are turned in and staff makes sure there is sufficient lighting to light up the site. She was not sure what tests were needed but thought that it could be worked out. Commiss~cner Bostwick: Asked if there was a code section that stated the number of lumens of light required? Cheryl Flores: Responded that it comes from Electrical Engineering and there may be a maximum number of lumens rather than a minimum. 04-12-99 Page 38 Chairman Bristol: Asked Mr. Manion if Commission kept conditions regarding the liquor store and compromised on other conditions, would he want it to go through as the applicant? He emphasized these were very standard condiiions. Russ Manion: The owner is not in a financial position to fight him. He asked if the question was restricted to the liquor store question or ths whole conditional use permit? Chairman Bristol: Stated the whole conditional use permit. There were some items brought up that morning and Commission also has some comments on the conditions. He wanted a clarification since Mr. Manion brought up a several objections. He brought in a new use, a church ner.t to a liquor store. If this project gets approved with these conditions on it, how is it going to affect the major tenant? Russ Manion: Stated he did not think it was going to be a problem, the buiidings face opposite sides. He is hoping to see the school, church or another tenant take over the liquor store space. The owner is not happy having a liquor store there due to their own moral and religious reasons, tney inherited that tenant. Commissioner Koos: Asked assuming that Commission approves staffs recommendations on 6 through 17, would it be something that Mr. Manion could comply with? Russ Manion: Asked if he wanted to go for 24 hours7 Commissioner Koos: Responded he would have to return. Russ Manion: Stated the only major problem remaining would be the p~blic phones. He would like to see it implemented and would fight to impose it. It will come down to whether the owner is strong enough to hold his ground against the tenant and allow Mr. Marion implement it. Commissioner Koos: It is not simply between the owner and tenant, it will be the City as well because the City can cite Mr. Manion and the tenant. Chairman Bristol: Asked how many street wells did not have trees7 He noticed palm trees at the site. Commissioner Bostwick: He did not have a problen with deleting that condition and having the City replace the ones on the street. Greg Hastings: Stated there may be a:~ opportunity for a City organization, Tree Power, to supply trees for the applicant to plant. Chairman Bristol: Regarding Condition No. 31, wall signs, asked Mr. Hastings if this was because they had a lot of canned signs on tire facia? Greg Hastings: Stated there could be excess signs and staff would have to look at It closer. Chairman Bristol: Stated he did not feel it was so much the signage but a lot of cans. Asked Mr. Manion if there was a permit for the pole sign that is currently therel Russ Manion: He did not know. The sign was there well before the owner purchased the property which was some years before they hired him to manage the property. Commissioner Bostuvick: Informed Mr. Manion he needs to get a permit for Condition No. 33. Russ Manion: It may have been there since the property was built. Chair:~nan Bristol: Explained if it were constructed prior to the permit being required for the sign, then it would be a permitted use but non-conforming. Today that sign would not be allowed. Stafr is asking owner to go back and find the permit that allows him to have that sign. If not, it has to be discussed. If owner can't find a permit on it, he'll have to come back and ask for a variance. 04-12-99 Page 39 Cheryl Flores: Staff should have stated on the staff report what the code allows. A 25-foot high sign for this property with a maximum of 20 feet is not allowed. The dimensions of the sign comply with code, it is a matter of pulling a permit for it. There !s a Marlboro sign described in Condition No. 34 that would have to be removed, and it would take a variance because it is within 300 feet of the other signs so it would be easier to remove it. Chairman Bristol: Asked if the owner can get a sign permit for the freestanding sign? Cheryl Flores: Advised he needs to draw up a plan and go into the Building Division. Greg Hastings: On Condition No. 31, it was stafFs recommendation that there not be more than one sign per use with the exception of the corner units having one in each direction. Staff does not know at this time which units comply. He suggested having it come back as a Reports and Recommendation item with a recommendation on a case by case basis. They are concerned about future signage, but if there is a way to remove any repetitive signage now, they would recommend it. Chairmar.~ ~i: istol: At the west elevation there are 4 or 5 canned potential signs and have nothing on them right now. Staff is recommending that one of them has identification for the church on 'that building elevation and the remove the other 4. If another tenant comes back in another suite, then bring back one can sign. Russ Manion: Asked if they were referring to the three can signs that are in the front. If the church occupies all three locations, two of them would be removed7 Chairman Bristol: Yes, one use per suite and address and staff will give the dimensions based on square footage of the front elevation. Chairman Bristol: Stated if they left co~~dition in there the way it is, staff will work with Mr. Manion to address it to ensure he is comfortable with it. They are trying to clean up the Scienic Corridor. Greg Hastings: Staff is recommending that they be on corner units, but if it is a through unit, he is not certain if it is the case there. !f it has frontage to the east and west or north and south he did not think staff would have a problem with it. Corr~missioner Bostwick: Stated the liquor store faces east but has wall surface on north and south walls. Greg Hastings: Staff is recommending that there be only two frc,ntages. Commissioner Bostwick: Stated they could have or,e sign on the side wall on the south to Orangethrope and one on the face of the building. Mr. !lastings agree:+ that ihat is what staff is recommending. Chairman Bristol: Advised Mr. Manion to work witfi staff. He felt it will be acceptable if he remains with the 15 gallon because it is an odd shaped property and did not realize there would be that many trees in there. Cheryl Fiores: Said it was a good trade off, it would give more trees than are there now. Ten gallon are too small and needs to be mir.imum 15 gallon. Commissioner Koos: He said given the financ~al situation of the landowner and potentiai tenant, it seems as if Commission is tailoring this to their specia' needs which creates a situation where they have different standards for different properties. He is concerned with it as a potential trend that staff and Commission is allowing certain individuals ~et away with more because they are taking 5nancial matters into consideration. Perhaps that is not the case, but that how It could be perceived. It is an incremental decision making process. He hoped Commission would not delete too many conditions. Commissioner Bos~wick: Stated he did not feel they were totally crafting something that is just specific to this problem. He does not use financial situations in the judgment of the property, their financial condition 04-12-99 Page 40 does not enter into his decision making. The items on the Ifquor store regarding window signage and beer sold, if it is not dune for other liquor stores in City, why should it be imposed in this case. Commissioner Koos: Said he does not disagree. He Just does not want a perception that the Planning Commission tailors each request as they come. Commissioner Bostwick: Explafned that is why he did not agree to removing the CUP. They need to come back to Commission and that is a standard process. Commissioner Koos: He questioned do they want a church and liquor store together. He would not be (n favor if they were next to each other but since they are backing each other it is a different situation. They do not share parking lots which i~ good, but it is odd in terms of the direction Commission is trying to go for in the City. Commissioner Bostwick: He mentioned just down the street is the Calvary Church and a liquor store. A Iittie farther east there was a pre-school which is now closed, and a liquor store in a strip mall. It had been done in the past. OPPOSITION: None ACTION: Approved Negative Declaration Appraved Waiver of Code Requirement Granted Conditional Use Permit No. 4105 for 3 years with the following changes to the conditions of appro~al: Deleted Condition Nos. 6 and 15. Modified Condition Nos. 17,19 and 26 lo read as follows: 17. That the hours of operation for the liquor store shall be limited to 6 a.m. to 9 p.m. Sunday through Thursday, and 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. Friday and Saturday. 19. That a minimum of eighteen (18), minimum 15-gallon sized trees shall be planted in the landscape planters immediately adjacent to Crowther Avenue and Orangethorpe Avenue. Said trees shall be planted within six (6) months from the date of this resolution. 26. That owner shall work with Tree Power to install street trees within the public ~ights-of-way adjacent to Orangethorpe Avenue and Crowther Avenue. The size, type and number or trees shail be provided to the satisfaction of the Urban Forestry Division of the Community Services Department. VOTE: 4-0 (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat) Selma Mann, Assistant City Attorney, presented thp 22-day appeal rights. DISCUSSION TIME: 46 minutas (2:00 t~ 2:46) 04-12-99 Page 41 4a. CEQA NEGATIVE DECLARATION Confinu 4b. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 4089 5-24-99 OWNER: La Paima Family Partnership, P.O. BoK 448, Los Alamitos, CA 90721 AGENT: Coorg Corporation, P.O. Box 448, Los Alamitos, CA 90721 LOCATION: Parcel 1-7his inegularly-shaped 1.18-acre property has a frontage of 120 feet on the south side of La Palma Avenue, a frontage of 120 feet on the north side of North Street, a maximum depth of 430 feet, and is located 120 feet east of the centerline of Pauline Street (740 East La Palma Avenue). Parcel 2- This rectangularly-shaped 1.5-acre property has a frontage of 85 feet on the soufh side of North Street, a frontage of 90 feet on the north side of Wilhemina Street, a maximum depth of 770 feet, and is located 150 feet east of the centerline of Pauline Street (no street address). To permit and retain a contractor's storage yard. CONDITIONAL USE PERMlT RESOLUTION N0. to • • • • • • OPPOSITION: None AC'fION: Continued subject request to the May 24,1999 Planning Commission meeting in order for the applicant to revise the proposal. VOTE: 4-0 (Commissioners Boydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat) DISCUSSION 71ME: This item was not discussed. 04-12-99 Page 42 5b. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 4090 OWNER: Larry E., Joan, Gary, Joyce and Janice Bedrosian, 710 East Ball Road, Anaheim, CA 92806 AGENT: Michael Hearn, 8180 East Kaiser Boulevard, Anaheim, CA 92808 LOCATIOI~: 2890 East La Palma Avenue. Property is 11.5 acres located at the southwest corner of La Palma Avenue and White Star Avenue. To construct two indoor roller hockey rinks with accessory retail and concession sales to be in conjunction with a future industrial park. CONDITiONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION N0. PC99•63 ' " , ' ". FOLLQWlNG IS A SUMMARY QF: THE FLANNING:COMMISSION ACTfON. . ' : `' . ApplicanYs Statement: Michael Hearn: Gave brief account of a similar rink in Brea and LaVerne. BrieFly discussed advantages of proposed rink. He feeis a lot of the conditions on the conditional use permit are placed on the developrr.ent not on the use or building. If a CUP is granted they will purchase only one of the seven buildings on the site. However conditions placed on his CUP have to do with the site as a whole. His building would not in and of itself trigger need for larger trees, irrigation, new lighting for the intersection, traffic control, widening of a street and can't see why they are tied to his conditional use permit. The developer will meet those conditions. In a meeting two weeks ago, it was explained to him that if he hadn't filed for a CUP, all the buiidings could be built as a matter of right and the City couldn't hook these conditions onto them. Because of the CUP, it gives the City an opportunity to better the project. Staff told him they weren't sure about compatibility when he inquired about Condition No.18, a limitation to 5 years on CUP. This proposal is exactly the same as the other two facilities that have been very successful. A five year limitation on a multi-million dollar project is very burdensome, he was told to bring it up to Commission. In Brea and LaVerne Planning Commission has the ability to review to make sure it is compatible and has no violations, but CUP does not have to be pulled. At the least, he would like a 10 or 15 year limitation if Commission really wants to limit it. • Condition No. 6 allows for only one sign on the freeway side and one sign over the front entrance. He submitted a document from sigri company showing signs from every elevation. He would like to have signs presented, approved as shown in elevations which include some figures. • Condition No. 36 regarding reciprocal access and parking agreement. They have 163 parking spaces and have had parking study done. If reciprocai parking access is between his main business and tenant it is fine. However if staff wants a reciprocal access and parking agreement for the entire site, the owner of the property will not agree to that for any other parcel and the deal is over with. • At the beginning of staff s report there is a chart showing buildings and amount of cars per 1000 that they would like to see. All other buildings are 1.55 per 10Q0, however hockey space goes to 2.4. He feels the math is wrong and they don't need so many spaces. • Condition No. 38 - he is unclear as to wliat a special event is. 04-12-99 Page 43 Commissioner Bostwick: Explained what a special event permit is. Michael Hearn: Due to the toumaments they have, maybe wording could say non-hockey events Greg Hastings: Stated the intent was to not have anything outdoors in terms of events or flags and banners because this is an industrial area where they are not aliowed. Anything on the inside is fine. Michael Hearn: Condition Nos. 46 and 48 - very critical issue. These paragraphs say all of the above has to be done before building permits. Some of the conditions like the light at White Star will take a year. This building and CUP has to be up and running by September because of the hockey season. This was never discussed. It was their understanding that the conditions to the CUP had to do with the rest of the development. There could be bonds put up for it like for the lighting and street. He suggested to tie it to the certificate of occupancy so that they can build the building and get work done at the same time. Traffic Division has agreed to Iet them bond the light at La Palma and White Star to satisfy the condition. Commissioner Bostwick: Clarified that conditions states prior to the issuance of a building permit or within one year from the date of the resolution. Commissioner Bo:,hvick: The permit the applicant needs first is wanted now. But he is bonding that to comply with the tra~c signal. Asked if it was acceptable. Michael Hearn: Stated that iPs one of many issues that staff has tipd this paragraph to. They want CC&R's drafted, recorded, certain easements, dedications, streets built. Chairman Bristol: Asked if they were all being built right now. The CC&R' s have to be done. Michael Hearn: Stafed they are being drafted. Chairman Bristol: Asked if private street end light are going to be done within a year? Condition 47 states thbt. Michael Hearn: Again stated it reads prior to the issuance of a building permit or whichever occurs first. i,hairman Bristol: Agreed with Michael and stated Commission understands what he wants. Cheryl Flores: Stated in Conditions 48 they have conditions 35 and 36 that should be tied to building permits too, and it could be placed in Condition No. 47 because it has a loophole, because these 3 ccnditions were requested by Public Works Department. Greg Hastings: Noted several of these conditions required information to be put on the plans submitted for building permit, not necessarily final construction. Traffic signal is different but it is tied to building pe~mit or witnin one year or as approved by the City Engineer, so it's flexible. Michael Hearn: The majority have already been approved, but several items like easements, dedications, building streets, that should have a one year limit on it. Greg Hastings: Pointed out that some are required by ordinance before a building permit is issued regardless what goes on the properry even if it is by right. Ralph Hastings: Represents Mr. Hearn and developer. Stated an issue was made about the screening of the air conditioning units on the roof. Ted White, Planner, made him aware of the ordinance which says any equipment will be done in such a manner that it will be an architectural element to the building. They wsnt through an extensive amount of work to meet requirement and submitted an extensive study regarding this 6'/: weeks ago that shows you can't see equipment up to 5/8's of a mile away. The write up he received that morning states that no rooftop equipment is acceptable. This is violation of the code. Chairman Bristol: Asked how tall the parapet was? 04-12-99 Page 44 Ralph Hastings: Said it varies, it's about 6'/: feet along the perimeter, some equipment is inboard of that. No equipment is over 3 feet 10Y~ inches tail and you'd have to be 5/8's of a mile away on the freeway before you can see over tha top of equipment. He brought out copy of study that was submitted to Planning. Chairman Bristol: Clarified Ralph Hastings was referring to no. 37. Said staff is correct, there is no roof line unless it's screened. Cheryl Flores: Advised that Condition No. 37 can be removed. It was appiied in error, they did have the line of sight drawings, and if it complies with code and equipment can be screened it is acceptable. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED Chairman Bristol: He asked Greg Hastings if there would be conditions inherent in the underlying CUP for the project that are redundant? Greg Hastings: It is confusing because this development is going forward regardless, whether or not this use goes into this building and there is anticipation of a parcel map occurring. If they knew what was going on in each one of those steps, they could separate those out, but there is no guarantee that there is going to be a parcel map. The building permits are pending for the project itself, they need to maka sure that they have the conditions on this, as well as what will come through in the building permit process, and as well as what will be seen by the Building Administrator for a parcel map. They need to go through each condition individually. Timing assigned is typical and some are required by code that before a building permit. Chairman Bristol: Asked staff about the accuracy of the amount of parkinq spaces. Cheryl Flores: The staff report states 171 is required and plans indicate 1G i. '"his qualifies for an Administrative Adjustment if they could not get reciprocal parking. Melanie Adams, Associate Civil Engineer: The issue of reciprocal access only comes into play if a parcel map is processed. This condition can be deleted seeing as how a parcel map has not come before them. The same would be on 44, it is only applicable if the property is parceled. It would come up with the parcel map and be part of that decision. Greg Hastings: There has to be enough parking on parcel to satisfy use, if there is not, there needs to be reciprocal parking agreements somewhere. The difficult part about appiying that condition to a parcel map, is that when you look at a parcel map you look at it as an industrial building, so there is more parking required, therefore that portion is appropriate for this. Ralph Hastings: Asked if the parking was 2.4 per 1,OG0 on the 55,000 square feet? Cheryl Fiores: F2esponded the requirement is 2.4 per 1,000 for roller hockey. If it included the office warehouse portion of 19,000 and verified that there were 179 parking spaces, Ralph Hastings: Stated there are 163, there is an error in the math at 2.4/1,000 on 55,000 square feet. Commissioner Bostwick: Stated it should be 133 for a total of 396.9. Cheryl Flores: Stated as long as it matches up and there is the required parking including the gross floor area and mezzanine, then no waiver is required. Commissioner Bostwick: Asked Mr. Hearn if the rink was going to be used for any other open skating? Michael Hearn: Responded it is solely for roller hockey competition and roller hockey events. 04-12-99 Page 45 Commissioner Bostwick: Asked staff why they included a condition that limited retail sales on concessions and pra-shop to accessories? Cheryl Flores: It is Industrial Zone and does not allow for retail sales, so they are being specific. Added that wording in Condition No.17 shauld also fnclude "information shown on plans submitted for building permits" to satisfy the intent of the condition that the water backflow equipment would be shown on plans submitted for building permits". Staff aiso intended that there be a 5 year limit and it needs to be resolved. During the voting: Michael Hearn: Requested Condition No. 46 and 48 be tied to the certificate of occupancy or given one year. Greg Hastings: Clarified that the information is shown on the plans but the Building Inspector makes sure is it done at the final point when he goes out. The actual instailation be done before occupancy and it is checked by being indicated on the plan then the building inspector checks it at the point that they are ready for occupancy. Commissioner Bostwick: All iterris that are part of construction need to be fully listed on the plans so the Inspector can make sure that they are there at time of final inspection. Greg Hastings: Clarified Mr. Hearn's concern about an easement and stated it is required when a building permit is issued for any building. Ralph Hastings: He's concerned with the linkage between the next intersection down from them, their intersection, their light and the study that must take place will take about one year. He asked if Mr. Yalda's use is not requiring that that intersection be signaled? Chairman Bristol: Clarified that if it wasn't his use and if it were industrial building, that is part of the CUP that was approved which inherent with that property now that is in part of that ~treet light. Ralph Hastings: Asked if before he can take occupancy, the developer will have to provide the widening of White Star, moving of utilities and dedication of private drive to give him access, that will be conditioned based on Public Works and Fire Department. If they can tie it to the C of 0, they will be all right other than the traffic light and it will take at least one year to design and install. Commissioner Bostwick: Traffic light can be bo~ded and can be signed off as being approved as one of the conditions, so it can be completed. All the others are tied to an ordinance, other than the ones that have been changed around today. They must be compieted and done before they can proceed. Michael Hearn: Said the only other thing was a parcel map that they want recarded before the issuance of a building permit which he thought staff indicated could be deleted. Commissioner Bostwick: Advised it was prior to final building and zoning and is tied into Condition No. 48; Condition No. 43 is tentative tract map, recorded prior to occupanc~ and it is listed in 48 as prior to final so it should be able to be done before applicant takes it. OPPOSITION: None ACTION: Approved Negative Declaration Granted Conditional Use Permit No. 4090 with the following changes to the conditions of Gpproval: Deleted Condition Nos. 36, 37 and 44. 04-12-99 Page 46 Modified Condition Nos.17, 47 and 48 to read as follows: 17. That the water backflow equipment and any other large water system equipment shall be installed to the satisfaction of the Water Utility Division behind the street setback area in a manner fuily screened ftom all public streets and alieys and shown on plans submftted for building permits. 47. That prior to issuance of a building permit, or within a period of one (1) year from the date of this resolution, whichever occurs first, or as approved by the City Engineer, Condition Nos. 30, 31, 32, 33,,34, 35 and 36, above mentioned, shall be complied with. Extensions for further time to complete said conditions may be granted in accordance with Section 18.03.090 of the Anaheim Municipal Code. 48. That prior to final building and zoning inspections, Condition Nos. 20, 25, 29, 42, 43 and 45, above mentioned, shall be compiied with. VOTE: 4-0 (Commissioners E3oydstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat) Selma Mann, Assisfant City Attorney, presented the 22-day appeai rights. DISCUSSION TIME: 46 minutes (2:47-3:33) 04-12-99 Page 47 6b. CONOITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 2612 (READVERTISED) OWNER; Edward and Patricia Scanlan,1112 Wakefield Place, Anaheim, CA 92802 LACATION: 328 North Vine Streot. Property is 0.2 acre located on the east side of Vine Street, 350 feet north of the centerline of Cypress. To amend or delete a condition of approval pertaining to an age limitation for resideni~ of a previously-approved board and care facility. CONDITION.4L USE PERMIT RESOLUTION N0. ,_ PC99-64 , Approved amendment to the conditions of approval s • e • • e ApplicanPs Statement: Patricia Scanlan: She is the owner subject property. They have a residential care faciliry which is also termed a board and care, licensed by the State. They have been taking care of people that are over 60 years old and they have also abie to care for people urder 60 years oid with a waiver. Therefore at this time they are requzsting the word "older" be removed from the condition of approval because they intend to care for people between the ages of 21 and 59. She feels they have an excellent facility there and have been there for 24 ycar, as of July. They have made substantial improvements to the property that are applicable for this type of use. She introduced Mike 0'Grady with 4he OC Healthcare Agency who was present to answer any questions. Michael 0'Grady, Residential Care C'oordinator, with the Orange County Health Care Agency, 1200 North Main Street, San~a Ana: He was av ailabie to answer any questions regarding the request for the removal of the word "older'. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED. OPPOSETiON: None ACTION: Oetermined that the previously-approved negative declaration is adequste to serve as the required environmental documentation for subjE:•t reques!. Approved amendment to the conditions of approval of Condiiional Use Permit No. 2612. Modified Resolution No. 84R-415 as follows: Amended Condition No. 5 to read: "5. That the maximum occupancy for this facility shal! be limited to and shall not exceed fifteen (15) adult residents plus one (1) couple for management and housekeeping duties " Added the following conditior: "18. That a maximum of four (4) resident vehicies shail be permitted ° 04-12-99 Page 48 VATE: 4-0 (Commissionors Bovdstun and Esping absent and one vacant seat) Selma Mann, Assistant City Attomey, preser.ted the 22-day appeal rights. DISCUSSION TiME: 2 minutes (3:3~-3:35) (There was a break following fhis item and before retuming fo Item No. 1-l.J 04-12-99 Page 49 ADJQURNED A'f 5:35 P.M. TO MONDAY, APRIL 26,1999 AT 11:00 ti.M. FOR PRELIMINARY Ri.A-iV RE!/IEW Submitted by: ~ ~~ Ossie Edmundson Senior Secretary )~(~i-x~.~l.C., `Y'~~-~liX.. Simonne Fannin Senior Word Processing Operator 04-12-99 Page 50