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Anaheim Civic Center, ANAHEIM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
September 22, 1987, 1:20 P.M.
PRESENT: AGENCY MEMBERS: Ehrle, Hunter, Pickler, Kaywood and Bay
ABSENT: AGENCY MEMBERS: None
PRESENT: ACTING CITY MANAGER: William Griffith
CITY ATTORNEY: Jack White
SECRETARY: Leonora N. Sohl
ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT: Lisa Stipkovich
A complete copy of the agenda for the meeting of the Anaheim Redevelopment
Agency was posted at 3:00 p.m. on September 18, 1987 at the Civic Center
kiosk, containing all items as shown herein.
Chairman Bay called the regular meeting of the Anaheim Redevelopment Agency to
order at 3:19 p.m.
MINUTES: Agency Member Kaywood moved to approve the minutes of the regular
meeting held July 21, 1987 and August 25, 1987. Agency Member Hunter seconded
the motion. MOTION CARRIED.
FINANCIAL DEMANDS AGAINST THE ANAHEIM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY in the amount of
$417,625.02, in accordance with the 1987-88 Budget, were approved.
,~.^ 161.107: INITIATION OF LITIGATION TO REMOVE TENANTS FROM AGENCY PROPERTY
(BACKS HOUSE) REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AREA: Agency Member Bay moved approval of
the following: Finding and determining the public interest and necessity to
take appropriate action, including unlawful detainer action by Agency General
Counsel for removal of the tenant of the Backs House, 225 North Claudina
Street, as recommended in memorandum dated September 15, 1987 from the
Community Development Department. Agency Member Ehrle voted no. Agency
Member Hunter abstained. MOTION CARRIED.
161.107: CERTIFYING AN INITIAL STUDY - PROPOSED RELOCATION OF THE BACKS HOUSE
AND AWARDING A CONTRACT TO MOVE THE STRUCTURE: (1) Certifying an initial
study for the proposed relocation of the "Backs House" from 225 North Claudina
to 194 Vintage Lane amd making certain environmental findings with respect
thereto and, (2) awarding a contract to the lowest and best bidder, Snow House
Movers, Inc., in the amount of $30,240 to move a structure from 225 North
Claudina Street to 194 North Vintage Lane (Backs House), Account No.
82-363-63257, and in the event of failure to fulfill all requirements, award
will be made to the next lowest responsible bidder, younger Brothers
Housemoving in the amount of $33,085. Submitted was report dated
September 14, 1987 from the Community Development Department recommending the
foregoing.
The following people spoke against moving the Backs house. The main point(s)
of their concern and comments were as indicated:
,~.. Mitchell Caldwell, Chairman of the Anaheim Neighborhood
Association (ANA) 902 West Broadway.
He first referred to the packet of information submitted to the
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Council. (See packet which contains 11 letters urging the
Council not to approve the move of the Backs house to Heritage
Square, one letter from a person who bid on the proposed move
and an information sheet for immediate release announcing ANA's
opposition - made a part of the record). The best solution for
the development of Parcel 5 is to follow the recommendation of
the Redevelopment Commission and the Project Area Committee and
leave the Backs house on the present historical sight and issue
a new request for a proposal which will retain the Backs house
on its present location. If it is still the Council's intent
after receiving input today to remove the Backs house, they are
requesting that an EIR be done in accordance with the California
Environmental Quality Act (CEQA).
William Delvac, Associate with the Law Firm of Sheppard, Mullin,
Richter and Hampton, representing the Anaheim Neighborhood
Association. The matter before the Agency today is critical to
the future of historic resources in Anaheim. The California
Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) establishes a series of
procedural minimums that cities must adhere to. As a matter of
policy they would urge the Agency to consider its own policy to
exceed the minimum in any "iffy" case. Mr. Delvac then briefed
portions of the extensive information contained in the 11-page
letter dated September 22, 1987 to the Mayor and City Council
signed by himself and Jack H. Rubens, (made a part of the
record). He emphasized that pursuant to the National Historic
Preservation Act which established the National Register,
properties that are in the Register such as the Backs house will
be delisted if those properties are moved to another site (see
Page 2 of the September 22, 1987 letter). Moving the Backs
house should be considered as a significant adverse
environmental impact. To remove it takes it from its place of
original and significant importance and this should be
considered as a significant adverse environmental impact. The
City has before it ample evidence that it is feasible to
rehabilitate the building on site. The Agency has to act to
keep the building on site, otherwise the Agency will cause more
public dollars to be spent for relocation and redevelopment.
Keith Oleson, 321 North Philadelphia, Anaheim.
(See letter dated September 20, 1987 to the City Council signed
by Keith and Judith Olson which gave detailed historical
background information not only on the Backs house but also
additional homes located on Adele Street and north Philadelphia
Street). The Backs house is the "parent" of the historic homes
in the area. To uproot one of cornerstones of that neighborhood
for a development and move it to an artificial site seems .~.
ludicrous. He does not want to see the house destroyed or
dismembered unnecessarily.
Cheryl Boyd, 607 North Zeyn, Anaheim.
She referred to letter dated September 20, 1987 from Diann Marsh
of Diann Marsh & Associates, Historic Preservation Consultants.
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She was at the meeting to present the information contained in
the letter (the letter was one of those submitted in the packet
previously referred to - made a part of the record). She then
briefed the Council on the most salient points of the letter -
that the house is listed in the National Register, that it would
be detrimental to move it from its present site, that it was
designed especially for the corner where it is presently located
and should remain where it has stood for over 80 years.
Larry Torgerson, 216 North Claudina, Anaheim.
(past President of the Anaheim Historical Society, Member of the
Project Area Committee (PAC), Chairman - Central City
Neighborhood Council, Vice Chairman - ANA). He has lived in the
neighborhood for 10 years and is concerned about the pattern of
negative declarations on historic resources in Anaheim. He then
briefed portions of the information contained in his letter of
September 20, 1987 (part of the packet submitted - made a part
of the record). Attached to his letter was an Historic
Buildings Survey and Planning Recommendations which survey was
performed in 1978/79 at the completion of which the Council
appointed an Ad Hoc Historic Committee to review the survey
~~ results.
Bob McCorkle, 607 North Zeyn, Anaheim.
(Past Secretary, Central City Neighborhood Council, Treasurer,
ANA). He then addressed some of the economic aspects of the
issue which were originally discussed at the joint
PAC/Redevelopment Commission hearing held earlier this month.
(He submitted copies of the feasibility study that was done by
the Redevelopment Agency). The study was commissioned by the
Agency to the Consulting Firm of Kaiser Marston & Associates,
December 11, 1986, which considered four different cases. The
schedule on the final page showed that the option that would be
the highest increment to tax base was Alternative B which is the
adaptive reuse of the building as office space. However, the
study failed to address tax incentives to provide for the
development.
Donna Berry, 511 East Broadway, Anaheim.
(Member of the Anaheim Redevelopment Commission - also see her
letter dated September 18, 1987 listing her extensive background
and qualifications in the area of Historic Preservation). She
read and briefed portions of the information contained in her
letter (see the last paragraph on Page 1, and also Page 2 of her
letter which specifically addressed the areas of concern - that
there was no proper study procedure followed, the economic
feasibility of developing Parcel 5 with the Backs house in
place, the original Request For Proposal (RFP) was "scrapped"
and there was never an RFP issued which considered developing
the entire parcel with the house remaining on site, that the
blanket EIR for Project Alpha commonly cited for redevelopment
projects is inadequate to comply with CEQA). She
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is requesting that the Anaheim Redevelopment Commisson's
recommendation of September 2, 1987 be adopted, thereby drawing
up a new RFP on the property and that a new EIR be ordered at
once.
Sally Horton, 226 North Claudina, Anaheim.
(Member of the PAC - see her letter dated September 20, 1987
which was part of the packet submitted). The vote at the joint
meeting of the Commission and Project Area Committee was 6 to 4
to advise the Agency to reissue a new RFP that would include the
Backs house. Leaving the house on site was the highest increase
in land value which directly contradicts the initial study.
Both William Taormina and Gary Masciel are interested in
developing the parcel with the Backs house on site. (See
letters dated September 8, 11 and 21, 1987 from William Taormina
to Norm Priest, Director of Community Development & Planning
which were a part of the packet submitted). None of the ill
effects to the environment have been studied. She urged that
the Agency uphold the recommendation of the Redevelopment
Commission and the PAC and closely direct staff to issue an RFP
on Parcel 5 that would include rehabilitating the Backs house on
site. ~`~"
Jack Rubens, Associate with the Law Firm of Sheppard, Mullin,
Richter and Hampton, representing the Anaheim Neighborhood
Association and also a representative of the ANA. He would like
to address the CEQA (see letter dated September 22, 1987) but
first wanted to summarize a few of the facts. The neighborhood
is overwhelmingly in favor of keeping the Backs house where it
is now. The two leading developers have both agreed that they
would incorporate the house into their commercial development.
The house has been used for commercial purposes for almost
50 years. The highest profitability of the property would be if
the house remains on site and an office building goes up around
it. There are a number of inadequacies in the initial study
(see Page 9 of the September 22, 1987 letter). They received it
last Friday which is clearly an inadequate amount of time to
review an initial study. Further, it should have been referred
to the State Clearing House and it was not. A minimum public
review period of 30 days is required. The Agency has not
received the kind of information that it should have about the
environmental issues of moving the Backs house and, more
importantly, the cumulative environmental issues. The Agency
has already demolished a sizable number of structures. If those
had all been demolished in one day, nobody could argue that
would not have a significant impact but they have been
demolished one at a time, each time claiming there is no
significant impact. CEQA requires that the cumulative impacts
be considered with the idea that a comprehensive plan will be
derived of preserving what is left of historic buildings. That
has not been done but piece-meal actions taken instead. The
Neighborhood Association would like the chance to present the
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Agency with more information about historic preservation and
adaptive reuse. Developers want to do this, neighbors want it,
and they strongly encourage the Agency not to relocate the house.
ADDITIONAL INPUT WAS GIVEN BY THE FOLLOWING:
Mr. Doug Shively, 1631 East Redwood Avenue, Anaheim.
(See his letter which was a part of the packet submitted). He
was one of the bidders on the proposed moving of the Backs house
to the Heritage Square lot. His letter refuted points upon
which the Agency's decision to move the house were based. He
believes that the staff's statements of urgency as well as its
reporting of costs have been at the very least an exaggeration,
even an outright misrepresentation of the facts.
Alan Clendenen, 900 East Cypress, Member of PAC, Chairman of the
Ad Hoc Historic Review Committee. He is interested in
preserving the integrity of the structure as it was originally
intended - as a residence, not as a reuse or some commercial
venture. The Edwards Mansion in Redlands was moved and made
into a restaurant. The house looks beautiful but upon entering
it, there is only one room off to the side left of the original
interior. He did not want to see that happen to the Backs
house. Relative to moving the house, most of the houses built
before 1985 have been moved at least once. His house (which is
an historic home which he had moved to Heritage Square) is in
its third location. As far as status on the National Register,
he knows several places that have been moved and remain on the
Register.
THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THE MOVE:
Larry King, Member of PAC.
During his past 10 years on PAC, the Backs house has been
discussed amongst many other structures. it has been determined
that the house, under the last owner before the City of Anaheim,
has deteriorated considerably. If it is left in its present
location, there is a strong chance it will have to be torn down
because it does not sustain the value of the land on which it
stands. He believes if they were to sell the house for what
they paid for it ($250,000) it would be physically impossible.
If the building is to be restored, he and many of his associates
on PAC believe that it should be restored in a proper site such
as Heritage Square.
Henry Drevelow, Teacher at Zion Lutheran Church, 2400 East
Lincoln. School children and families have had an opportunity
to tour the home of the Clendenens. The home is going to be
available to their families on November 14, 1987 for school
purposes and family purposes. They will be able to tour the
home and see it and enjoy their heritage. The Waltz family
likewise invited them to do so if they are able to have the
house moved to Heritage Square. They are appreciative that
there are people who are trying to preserve these homes in
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Heritage Square, thus enabling students and families in the area
to be able to observe, appreciate and enjoy them in that
location.
Randy Fox, 210 North Pine Street, Anaheim.
He favors the move of the Backs house to Heritage Square. Both
sides want to see the home preserved and they have the
opportunity to do that. Relative to the House being registered,
he questioned if that is really where the value lies. By
placing the house in Heritage Square, it will be conducive to
more public enjoyment. Keeping it as a private home will
maintain the integrity of the house.
Ron Waltz, 225 North Rose Street, Anaheim (purchaser of the
Backs house), resident of 22 years. There has been some
question on the price of the move of the house. Snow House
Movers quoted $29,000 for one of the families to move the
house. What Snow Movers told him today, it would cost $30,240
to do everything on the house. On the other quote for the other
people, they were going to cut the roof off, tear the foundation
out, doing all the work themselves. He (Waltz) told the Snow
Movers he wanted them to do everything because they were the
professionals. He would like to see the house moved to Heritage
Square. He has put his good faith money up front. He knows
there is opposition but he hopes the Agency will make the right
choice. However the matter turns out, he hopes the people will
understand either way.
At the conclusion of public input, Agency Member Pickler stated since there
have been some allegations made, he is requesting a Closed Session; City
Attorney White stated he assumes then that the Closed Session is for purposes
of conferring with Legal Counsel regarding potential litigation on the subject
matter.
RECESS - CLOSED SESSION: Agency Member Pickler moved to recess into Closed
Session, Agency Member Bay seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED. (4:20 p.m.)
AFTER RECESS: The Mayor called the meeting to order, all Council Members
being present. (4:52 p.m.)
Chairman Bay.
At this time before the Agency comments and makes their
decision, he would like to call upon staff to clarify any
incorrect implications that they heard from their view during
the public input.
Lisa Stipkovich, Assistant Executive Director for Community
Development. She clarified that in the information presented to
her by staff there is an action requested that the Agency
certify the initial study. On the third page of that initial
study, the wrong box is checked. Instead of a negative
declaration, it should be, the project is already covered under
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the EIR, the final subsequent EIR updated in 1976. This is not
a negative declaration. Implications were made by some of the
people in the audience were that the staff was proceeding
incorrectly and tried to mislead the Commission in information.
In the beginning of this year, staff did go out with RFP's to
the Commission on the "L" shaped parcel, Parcel 5, excluding the
Backs house because they did not want to use condemnation
considering its historical significance. At that time, the
current owner. put a "For Sale" sign on the house. The
Commission asked staff to go back and acquire the site if
possible and look at incorporating the house into Parcel 5.
They did that and acquired the site in December of 1986.
Staff then asked their economic consultant Kaiser Marston to do
a study which has previously been submitted. In reading the
entire report, the highest and best use would be for the Backs
house to be relocated and preserved somewhere else where its
historical significance could be maintained and for the site to
be developed as a commercial site. The preference and the
highest and best use was to have the site developed as a
commercial site with the Backs house being relocated to Heritage
Square. This was discussed with the Commission and they
directed staff to go out for another RFP, one for Parcel 5
including the land the Backs house was on as well as another RFP
asking for proposals to move the Backs house to Heritage
Square. Staff did so and presented the proposals to the
Commission.
At the joint meeting between the Redevelopment Commission and
PAC, they met with quite a bit of opposition from the
neighborhood, something they were not aware of until that
point. Secondly on the move of the house there has been some
dispute as to whether the cost of moving the house would or
would not be increased by cutting it and moving it a different
route. The two different proposals received from the same mover
were including different things. In the bid that was given to
the Shivelys, the mover was not including in the cost the
preparation of removing the house from its current foundation,
removal of the roof nor were the costs of utility line
relocations included. That is a cost that would have to be
incurred to the Agency. Snow Movers indicated to her today the
cost of cutting the house whether in half or taking parts of it
in order to make it small enough to go down Broadway would incur
an additional cost of $10,000 to $20,000. In addition, the
Agency would have to pay the relocation costs of utility lines
which he estimated to be about $10,000 if taken down Broadway.
He indicated taking it down Lincoln would be the most cost
effective and simplest way to move it.
Chairman Bay.
There is also a deadline due to the construction involved on the
underpass on Lincoln Avenue. That construction necessitates a
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choice by the Council/Agency on whether the house would have to
be cut to be moved which has been a concern of the
Council/Agency. Two of the present Council Members were very
involved in redevelopment when the project set up Heritage
Sctuare for the prime purpose of preserving historically
significant homes in the City and preserving them for their
existing use - private, single-family dwellings. He has been
involved in the redevelopment since it started in 1974 and its
redirection in 1976. The Agency and the Council, during the
early years of redevelopment, came under a great deal of
political pressure to stop redevelopment, change it, slow it,
anything to keep it from moving along. Many used historical
preservation as a front for delaying those actions which is a
known fact. He is not saying that this issue is the same but it
does have some appearances of the moves made in 1976, 1977 and
1978. When the Agency made the decision and told staff to
purchase the Backs house, it was not to leave it where it is.
The idea of using $250,000 of Agency tax money to purchase the
house was to buy it, move it and preserve it as it is - but in
Heritage Square. His feeling on the subject has not changed.
He still feels the Backs house should be moved to Heritage
square and preserved as it was originally used - as a .,..,
single-family dwelling.
Agency Member Hunter.
He disagrees and feels they should leave the house where it is.
It can be used for limited commercial and his law office is a
prime example of what can be done. He sees a revitalization of
downtown where young couples are becoming involved. He urged
that they save what little they have left of historical
significance. He is adamantly against moving the Backs house.
City Attorney Jack White requested a Closed Session.
RECESS: Agency Member Bay moved to recess into Closed Session. Agency Member
Hunter seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED. (5:11 p.m.)
AFTER RECESS: Chairman Bay called the meeting to order, all Agency Members
being present. (5:35 p.m.)
Agency Member Bay offered Resolution Nos. ARA87-18 and ARA87-19 for adoption.
Refer to Resolution Book.
RESOLUTION NO. ARA87-18: A RESOLUTION OF THE ANAHEIM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CERTIFYING AN INITIAL STUDY FOR THE PROPOSED RELOCATION OF THE "BACKS HOUSE"
FROM 225 NORTH CLAUDINA TO 194 NORTH VINTAGE LANE AND MAKING CERTAIN
ENVIRONMENTAL FINDINGS WITH RESPECT THERETO. "'~
RESOLUTION NO. ARA87-19: A RESOLUTION OF THE ANAHEIM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ACCEPTING A SEALED PROPOSAL AND AWARDING A CONTRACT TO THE LOWEST AND BEST
RESPONSIBLE BIDDER FOR MOVING A HOUSE FROM 225 NORTH CLAUDINA STREET TO 194
NORTH VINTAGE LANE. (CONTRACT N0. 87-3M)
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Before action was taken, Agency Member Ehrle stated it is time
to take a stand on some of the historical buildings they have in
the City. There are only four on the National Register left in
downtown Anaheim. He feels the parcel can be developed with the
Backs house in place. By moving that home, Anaheim will be
losing a little bit of its history. It will not hurt to keep
one house on one parcel and build around it. He will strongly
oppose the move.
Agency Member Kaywood.
Everyone is speaking about preserving .the house. That is
exactly what she wants to do. As an old friend of Frances and
Emma Backs, she knows they would have wanted the house to remain
just as it was when they grew up in it. To preserve it as a
house is the historic value. To leave it where it is, or to cut
it up or change it to another use, that is not historic
preservation in the use it was intended to be. There is no
question in her mind that it should be moved to Heritage
Square. What everyone wants is to preserve the house and that
includes the Agency.
Agency Member Pickler.
It is necessary to recall that redevelopment has helped the
young people to move into the area. The maintenance of the
Backs home as a home is critical. If they are going to change
in midstream and go in different directions, it is not a benefit
to the City. By moving the house to Heritage Square it will
enable the house to be maintained as it originally was.
Chairman Bay.
He would urge the Agency/Council publicly what he has been
urging privately - to show some unity. His personal opinion is
that these types of attacks on the redevelopment plan at the
same time the Agency and the Council is being criticized for not
getting Redevelopment Alpha moving, these are the kinds of
things that cause much difficulty in doing so. The 30-year plan
hashed around for months in 1976 is not that far behind
schedule. There are some new beautiful developments coming into
downtown on the immediate horizon. He is calling again for
unity on the Council/Agency relative to Redevelopment Project
Alpha in order to make it work, and it will when the Agency
shows a unified position that it intends to take that plan and
make it work.
A Roll Call Vote was then taken on the foregoing Resolutions:
Roll Call Vote:
AYES: AGENCY MEMBERS: Pickler, Kaywood and Bay
NOES: AGENCY MEMBERS: Ehrle and Hunter
ABSENT: AGENCY MEMBERS: None
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The Chairman declared Resolution Nos. ARA87-18 and 19 duly passed and adopted.
ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST:
Alan Wagner, 622 B North Philadelphia. The Agency's inconsistency is what
breeds public fear and resentment. It appears in Anaheim, when money talks,
property owners balk.
ADJOURNMENT: Agency Member Bay moved to adjourn. Agency Member Pickler
seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED. (5:52 p.m.)
LEONORA N. SOHL, SECRETARY
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