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ANAHEIM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
June 17 1975, (10:30 A.M.)
Council Chamber
Anaheim City Hall
PRESENT: Mrs. Kaywood, Mr. Seymour, Mr. Sneegas and Mr. Thom
ABSENT: Mr. Pebley
PRESENT: CITY ATTORNEY: Alan R. Watts
SECRETARY: Alona M. Hougard
DEPUTY CITY CLERK: Linda D. Roberts
REDEVELOPMENT.DIRECTOR: Knowlton Fernald
RECREATION SUPERVISOR: Patsy Ray
Chairman Thom called the meeting to order at 10:30 A.M.
PROPOSAL - INTERIM THEATRE FACILITY (Submitted to Council Members were
copies of Redevelopment Department staff reports dated June 2, June 11
and June 16, 1975, as well as Community Redevelopment Commissioners'
comments from their meeting of June 16, 1975.)
Mr. Fernald summarized the memorandums submitted and the pro-
posal as set forth to the Redevelopment Commission, which is to: (1)
acquire an existing building located at 318 West Lincoln Avenue,
remodel this as a theatre for performing and other cultural arts uses,
with a total recommended budget for acquisition and remodeling of
$420,400.00 ($400,400 in Redevelopment funds and $20,000 previously
approved by the City for electrical work at the former Zion Lutheran
Church Sanctuary); lease this remodeled structure to the City so that
the Parks, Recreation and the Arts Department could manage, operate
and maintain the building, for a minimum period of two years, until
needed for redevelopment.
The second stage is a step towards a more permanent facility
for a full Cultural Arts Center, and calls for a long -range program {
which might appropriately include theatres, art galleries, museum,
classrooms and storage. In this connection, the reports call for
the approach to begin with the Agency contracting with architects to
prepare a preliminary design and budget; the Agency designating a
committee or commission to work with the architect and to prepare
financing and implementation plan.
Mr. Fernald indicated that the Community Redevelopment Commis-
sion discussed this project with approximately 47 people in the
audience representing many of the cultural arts- groups in the com-
munity. All of these groups indicated they were in support of some
kind of program to establish a cultural and performing arts facility,
although there were some differences of opinion as to how to accomp-
lish this objective. He reported that at the conclusion of the
meeting, the Cultural Arts Commission voted 3 to 2 in favor of an
interim facility; the Community Redevelopment Commission by a 4 to 1
vote recommended an interim theatre facility as proposed in Act II
of the proposals submitted.
Mr. Fernald advised that it is generally felt the theatre
facility would aid the redevelopment Alpha area by encouraging
people to come into the downtown area; and would afford the various
cultural groups an opportunity to work together to make maximum use
of the facility. I"
Mr. Fernald pointed out that according to the architect's break-
down, there is the possibility of saving $10,000 by not enclosing
the port cochere portion of the structure as a lobby. This would
provide an additional 4500 square feet of space which other activities
could use either in conjunction with or independent of the theatre's
operation.
In reply to Mr. Seymour,.Mr. Fernald advised that Commissioner
Morris voted in opposition and that nei;�hcr Commissioner Leo nor
Commissioner Morris had any additional comments to offer.
Redevelopment Agency, June 17, 1975, Continued 75 -59
During brief discussion with the Agency Members, Mr. Fernald
advised that the acquisition cost of $280,000 is the Department's
estimate, an appraisal has not been completed; that the proposed
building has been judged structurally safe, is in very good condi-
tion, is air conditioned and contains approximately 5500 square feet;
that the Church of Anaheim presently occupies the building under a
lease /option which has expired and they are attempting to vacate
the building by June 30, 1975; that if relocation assistance by the
Agency is required or necessary, $2,500 would be the.maximum.
Mr. Sneegas stated that he would be very gravely concerned
about the expenditure of this amount of redevelopment funds for a
non - producing facility before any other redevelopment project which
would yield some tax benefits is even in the planning stages.
Mr. Fernald commented on the question of whether or not this
redevelopment project should produce income. He noted that in
redeveloping the downtown area, the Agency will do many things
which will not specifically produce direct income, including the
widening of streets and the creation of parks and plazas. He felt
that a part of the problem which must be recognized in the redevelop-
ment project is that there is the necessity to attract people back
into the area and this is done by either creating facilities which
offer new jobs or facilities which they will want to attend, either
commercial or non - commercial. He felt this was a very appropriate
kind of project for the Agency to be involved in.
Mr. Thom stated that he has been supportive of a community
center that would embody facilities for the cultural and performing
arts, public meeting rooms, museum, etc., but the immediate problem
is that this proposal calls for the expenditure of nearly one -half
million dollars for an interim facility. He stated he feels a
strong sense of responsibility to the Ana - Modjeska Players, however,
this amount of money for a projected two -year interim facility is,
In his opinion; not a judicious use of tax increment funds.
Mr. Sneegas agreed and further pointed out that the remodeling
of this building for a two -year interim facility might also preclude
the use of that entire block for a permanent redevelopment project
without requiring another large expenditure to again relocate the
theatre facility. He pointed out that the Redevelopment Agency did
establish a policy,to some extent, when they declined to purchase
property at the corner of Anaheim Boulevard and Lincoln Avenue be-
cause there was no specific redevelopment use for it at the time
despite the fact that the Agency Members were aware it will have to
be purchased at some time in the for street widening purposes.
Mr. Sneegas also referred to the City's current budget delibera-
tions and the fact that they are faced with economic problems and
cutbacks in all areas.
Mr. Seymour noted that in addition to the initial purchase of
the building for $270,000, to provide this theatre facility would
require an expenditure of $160,000 prorated over two years, or
$80,000 per year for a facility which may be replaced in two years.
He indicated that he wholeheartedly supports a cultural arts center
or a theatre facility and perhaps at the proper time, redevelopment
funds would be the vehicle with which to fulfill this community
need. He voiced concern that if this activity should move into an
interim facility, once located and operating it would be much more
difficult to justify relocation to a larger, permanent facility.
He also felt it should be considered that if a developer could
justify the need for the property then the Agency incurs the respon-
sibility to relocate the theatre and perhaps to create a facility
that ideally would be ten times the financial dollars invested in
this interim facility.
Chairman Thom invited interested citizens in the audience to
address the Agency.
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Redevelopment Agency, June 17, 1975, Continued
Mrs. Betty Lillis, (a member of the Cultural Arts Committee of the
Women's Division, of Commerce) indicated that she personally
agrees there is a need for a performing and cultural arts facility
and stressed that this facility should also include a museum. She
felt that the City's leaders should look forward to the ultimate _
cultural and historical needs and not spend.redevelopment funds on
this particular temporary facility at this time.
Mrs. Vi Wheeler, 1417 Beverly Drive, Past President of the
Anaheim Arts Council, stated that the Council's recommendations for
a future cultural arts facility are included in Mr. Fernald's report.
She noted that they are certainly behind a cultural arts facility in
the future. She felt the present Cultural Arts Center provides
adequately for arts and crafts, but there has been,no provision made
for converting any portion of it for the performing arts. She voiced
the opinion that the momentum engendered by the Anaheim Civic Theatre
project warrants efforts to foster and preserve.
Mr. Kent Johnson, Consultant for the Ana - Modjeska Players,
noted that in 1968 he read an article in the newspaper that a Council
was being formed for the express purpose of galvanizing ideas for a
cultural center in the City of Anaheim, at which time he volunteered
his services and now, seven years later, there is still talk of a
civic cultural center but no actual facility. He voiced his concern
that there will still be nothing but talk seven years from this date
unless some positive step such as the proposed interim facility is
taken. The effect of such an interim facility would be to coordinate
and consolidate various group efforts, give the cultural segment a
focal point upon which to concentrate so that their voices might be
heard. It would also be a showcase for the cultural art groups, and
when the time comes for the permanent facility, these groups will
have amalgamated their efforts towards the type of facility which is
required and the funding available.
Mr. Seymour indicated that he concurs a permanent facility is
needed and it is a high priority item. He stated that he did not
wish his remarks to be construed as passing the responsibility on,
but rather he felt that the differences lie in the approach and-hope-
fully within this year there would be a program for redevelopment that
would have vitality and be a program that all groups could rally
around and work together to achieve.
Mr. Johnson cited the large amounts of City utilized in
such sport - oriented recreational amenities as tennis courts, golf
courses, ball diamonds, etc., and noted that the amount of money
which the City spends on these is disproportionate to that which is
spent on cultural and performing art activities. He further cited
that the Agency Members have recommendations favoring the interim
proposal from their own staff, Commissioners and Consultants which
should be carefully considered.
Mrs. Kaywood stated that she is a charter patron of the Ana -
Modjeska Players and was in on formation of the Foundation for the
Cultural Arts Center, but has a great deal of difficulty in accepting
what is being proposed at a cost of $420,000, when the project was
originally budgeted at $20,000. She stated she has a very real fear
that if this facility was to be remodeled and provided on an interim
basis, it would not be interim at all but become permanent. She
compared the situation with the City's lack of an adequate City Hall,
i.e., once there is such a facility, although totally inadequate,
it is difficult to convince the taxpayers that a more adequate
structure is necessary. She advised she has heard this same remark
referenced to the Horace Mann Cultural Arts Center. She voiced the
opinion that the City.needs a civic center proposal for a city hall
and a cultural arts center with a joint parking use. She felt that
a less costly interim solution should be devised and efforts be done
immediately to work towards a permanent facility to encompass.all of
the arts.
Mr. Johnson pointed out that it is important to consider the
momentuia which Lhe groups now have and "hut some of these perform-
ing groups will find it difficult to survive if no help at all is
given them.
Redevelopment Agency, June 17, 1975, Continued 75 -61
Brief discussion regarding the alternative locations which might
be used by the Ana- Modjeska Players was held during which Mr. Johnson
stated that the Loara Playhouse is totally inadequate for the needs
of the Ana - Modjeska Players and schools are not available. Mrs.
Kaywood suggested that the Fox Anaheim Theatre be contacted about
the possibility of leasing that facility for performances. Mr.
Johnson stated that he had looked at most of the buildings in the
redevelopment area and that the costs for conversion of any suitable
building were roughly similar to the proposal under discussion.
Mr. Seymour suggested that further buildings be investigated
outside of the redevelopment project area if necessary, indicating
that he would be agreeable to put forth $20,000 to $40,000 towards
the project, or even provide something on a rental basis, but did
not think it necessary to spend as much money as was proposed to
reach the objective on an interim basis.
Mr. Thom left the meeting and Mr. Seymour assumed chairmanship
of the meeting. (11:40 A.M.)
Mr. Andy Deneau, Chairman of the Heritage Committee under the
Cultural Arts Commission, reported that when he originally became
aware of the proposal to utilize the former Zion Lutheran Church
Sanctuary as a civic theatre, he offered the services of the Heritage
Committee to evaluate the structure at no charge. When no request
was made for these services, he felt it was a safe assumption that
prior to significant further investigation would be made
since this 55 -year old masonry building would not meet current Codes.
He stated that he did not consider this to be an obstacle to its
further use. He indicated that his Committee feels reasonably sure
that the structure can be reinforced for a nominal cost and suggested
this option be investigated further. Mr. Deneau further suggested
that the City consider leasing the Sanctuary structure to the Anaheim
Foundation for Culture and the Arts and they could undertake the
refurbishing activity which would absolve the City's responsibility
and relieve the operational problems. He indicated, in response to
Mr. Seymour, that he felt the structure could be reinforced for
between $25,000 and $30,000.
Mrs. Kaywood noted that the cost for just electrical rewiring
and lighting was estimated at $20,000 and the structure was not
strong enough to support the- weight of the lighting equipment. A
much figure was given as to the cost to strengthen the
building.
Mr. Deneau replied that a structural analysis was not a cost
analysis and he felt there was insufficient investigation of the
building to predict a cost figure.
Mrs. Ruth Salaets speaking for the cultural arts of Anaheim,
stated that she believes in equal opportunity and that some of the
other groups in the City would like to be equally represented in
their efforts to obtain such facilities as a cultural center and a
museum. She voiced the opinion that the Agency Members should not
act with haste in this matter and that more research is necessary
before going to an interim facility. She felt the total community
has not been considered and all those organizations concerned with
such a cultural facility should be given the same opportunity as
the Ana - Modjeska Players to present their comments to the Redevelop-
ment Agency.
Miss Patsy Ray, Recreation Supervisor, clarified that Mr. Kent
Johnson was hired and his salary paid entirely by the Ana - Modjeska
Players, and no funds have ever been allocated in this direction by
the City. She explained the role and function of the Parks, Recrea-
tion and the Arts Department in connection with the various community
cultural organizations as well as the history of their activity with
the Ana - Modjeska Players since the former Zion Lutheran Church Sanctu-
ary was considered for remodeling and use as a theatre. She related
that at the time the approval was received from the City Council to
turn the Sanctuary into a performing arts facility, no further in-
vestigation was made upon the use of the structure by the
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Redevelopment Agency, June 17, 1975, Continued
former tenants, the Covenant Presbyterian Church, since the theatre
would not essentially change the use of that building. She summarized
the other available City and school district facilities and indicated
the various reasons as to why these cannot accommodate the Ana - Modjeska
Players.
In reply to Mr. Seymour, Miss Ray indicated that she personally
• is aware that the Heritage Committee offers building evaluation and
inspection services, however, to her knowledge, Mr..Tom Barnes,
President of the Ana - Modjeska Players, had not requested same or
relayed the offer of the Heritage Committee to the Department.
Mr. Seymour referred to Miss Ray's report dated May 27, 1975 on
the chronology of events concerning the Anaheim Civic Theatre, which
report indicated to him some implication that someone in the Parks,
Recreation and the Arts Department had knowledge that perhaps this
building was not structurally sound prior to the Council's commitment
on same to the Ana - Modjeska Players. He inquired whether the actual
memos or reports listed would support this indication.
Miss Ray advised that she was not aware of any material which
would support that statement, but noted that on numerous occasions
it was openly indicated that the building was over 50 years of age
and with the type of construction would not meet current building
codes. Further, in preliminary discussions with the City Manager
and City Attorney, it was indicated there was a life use of the
facility and that within the risk - factor and the life use it was
acceptable to continue in direction. She cited that there are
numerous buildings in downtown Anaheim the same age as the Sanctuary
structure which are still being utilized.
Mr. Seymour inquired how certain .Miss Ray was of the figures
given of between $100,000 and $200,000 to fortify the structure so
that it would be structurally sound. Miss Ray replied that in a
preliminary meeting and discussion of the alternatives open with
regard to the building itself, Mr. Floyd Weaver indicated that the
only portions worth saving were the floor and the roof structure,
and it would be feasible to remove the ceiling and the wails and
put up new ones. Another possibility was to gunite the entire
exterior which would strengthen the structure, however, the build -,
ing's architectural integrity and historical .significance would be
lost. Both of these options had high costs and Miss Ray indicated
she never heard a figure discussed of less than $100,000.
At the conclusion of discussion, Mr. Fernald commented that he
had been charged with the responsibility of initiating redevelopment
activity and implementing a new City Department in a tight budget
time. He stated that the purpose of redevelopment is to put together
a comprehensive program for uses which will work well together. He
stated that the ongoing performing arts activities in this City have
no focal point, and he views these activities as very vital activities
in trying to provide the catalyst which will encourage new investment
in the downtown area. This project provides an opportunity to begin
on something which is actually of modest cost if it will attract new
investments. He stated that all of the public improvements which
will ultimately be put in the downtown area will not necessarily
have a direct economic benefit.
Mr. Seymour stated that he could see two problems, a short -term
problem of finding an interim facility at a reasonable cost; and a
long -term problem of providing a permanent facility which is ample
for the needs of all the City's cultural and performing arts groups.
He stated that he felt the long -term objective might best be achieved
by establishing a task -force with a broad -based representation from
the full spectrum of cultural and performing arts groups to identify
the needs, what the facility should be like, where it should be
located, and how it will be financed.
Mrs. Kaywood agreed, stating she also felt that something needs
to be done immediately to provide a temporary facility for the Ana -
Modjeska Players at a reasonable cost.
Redevelopment Agency, June 17, 1975, Continued
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Councilman Sneegas stated that he could not visualize the
citizens of Anaheim feeling that it would be advantageous to spend
money on a project like this in the downtown area when the purpose
of a Redevelopment Agency is to relieve the tax burden. He remarked
that if, in the long run, a project such as this were coupled with
another redevelopment project which would have positive tax incre-
mental benefits, he would be more amenable to it.
MOTION On motion by Mr. Seymour, seconded by Mr. Sneega -,
the Anaheim Redevelopment Agency denied the proposal recommended
by the Community Redevelopment Commission to remodel the former
United States Bank Building, 318 West Lincoln Avenue, for use as
an interim performing arts theatre, described as Act II in the
redevelopment report. Mr. Pebley and Mr. Thom absent. MOTION
CARRIED.
Mr. Seymour felt it was further in order to ask the Parks,
Recreation and the Arts Department to again seek realistic alterna-
tives for a temporary facility and, further, that they be encouraged
to work with Mr. Deneau and the Heritage Committee on further evalua-
tion of the Sanctuary structure, since there is always room for an
additional viewpoint.
After discussing the positive and negative aspects of a task
force with interested members of the audience, it was determined
that Miss Patsy Ray would collect and submit a list of those organi-
zations interested in having representation on a task force charged
with the of laying the groundwork for a permanent
cultural arts facility, to the City Council on July 8, 1975. From
these lists the Council Members will determine which organizations
should be represented and ask them to submit names for potential
task force members.
Mrs. Kaywood urged that the various cultural arts groups not ,
permit the same type of in- fighting to occur which lost the cause for
the Orange County Symphony. She noted that all of the groups have
the same goal, and they should keep this in mind and be realistic
in recognizing that they will need to cooperate and make some
compromises.
ADJOURNMENT: Mrs. Kaywood moved to adjourn. Mr. Seymour seconded
the motion. MOTION CARRIED:
ADJOURNED: 12:30 P.M.
SIGNED:
Secretary,-Redevel ment Agency
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ANAHEIM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
June 17, 1975, (1:00 P.M.)
Council Chamber.
Anaheim City Hall
PRESENT: Mrs. Kaywood, Mr. Pebley, Mr. Sneegas and Mr. Seymour
ABSENT: Mr. Thom
PRESENT CITY ATTORNEY: Alan R. Watts
SECRETARY: Alona M. Hougard
REDEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR: Knowlton Fernald
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR: Ronald Thompson
Chairman Pro Seymour called the meeting to order, all Commission
Members being present with the exception of Mr. Thom.
ANAHEIM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION (ANAHEIM REDEVELOPMENT
�ENCY /ANAHEIM HOUSING AUTHORITY Ci ty Attorney Alan R. Watts
reported that Ordinance No. 3424 was now in effect establishing a
Community Development Commission, which can sit as a Housing
Authority or as the Redevelopment Agency. He recommended that the
City Council establish meeting dates for the Housing Authority.
On the recommendations of the City Attorney, Mr. Seymour
moved that the Anaheim Housing Authority meet on the first and
third Tuesdays of each month at 1:00 P.M. Mr. Sneegas seconded
the motion. Mr. Thom absent. MOTION CARRIED.
P ROPOSED A GREEMENT, DRAINAGE FACILITIES - PROJECT ALPHA (MIRALOMA
AVENUE AND BLUE GUM STREET): The City Attorney reported on proposed
agreement between the Anaheim Redevelopment Agency and the City of
Anaheim, advising that a 10 -acre industrial park is to be developed
at the corner of Miraloma Avenue and Blue Gum Street; the developer
has contributed $25,000 towards the construction of drainage
facilities at that intersection, which it is estimated will total
$85,000. The Redevelopment Agency would fund the balance of said
construction costs which would be reimbursed by other properties
in the immediate vicinity as they develop.
Redevelopment Director Knowlton Fernald reported that the
Community Redevelopment Commission recommended the approval of the
initial expenditure for the drainage facilities.
RESOLUTION NO. CDC75 -30: Mrs. Kaywood offered Resolution No.
CDC75 -30 for adoption.
A RESOLUTION OF THE ANAHEIM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY APPROVING THE
TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF AN AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION
THEREOF. ( Miraloma Avenue and Blue Gum Street)
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Mrs. Kaywood, Mr. Pebley, Mr. Sneegas and Mr. Seymour
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mr. Thom
Chairman Pro Tem Seymour declared Resolution No. CDC75 -30 duly
passed and adopted.
RESOLUTION NO. CDC75 -31 - SALE OF REAL PROPERTY IN THE NORTHEAST
IN DUSTRIAL AR EA, PHILADELPHIA GEAR CORPORATION OF CALIFORNIA: On
report and recommendation by the City Attorney, Mr. Seymour offered
Resolution No.- CDC75 -31 for adoption, authorizing the conveyance
to Philadelphia Gear Corporation of California certain property,
as previously authorized by Anaheim Redevelopment Agency Resolution
No. RA75 -23 on January 7, 1975.
Redevelopment Agency, June 17, 1975, Continued:
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A RESOLUTION OF THE ANAHEIM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AGREEING TO SELL
CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY AND AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A DEED.
(Philadelphia Gear Corp. of California) (Located generally on the
north side of Miraloma Avenue, east of Sunshine Way and south of
Miraloma Way)
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Mrs. Kaywood, Mr. Pebley and Mr. Seymour
NOES: Mr. Sneegas
ABSENT: Mr. Thom
Chairman Pro Tem Seymour declared Resolution No. CDC75 -31 duly
passed and adopted.
INTRODUCTION - ROSARIO MATTESICH, HOUSING DIRECTOR: Mr. Fernald
introduced Mr. Rosario (Rick) Mattesich, the City's Housing Director
as of July 1, 1975.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT APPLICATION - HOUSING ASSISTANCE
PLAN (HAP): Mr. Fernald reported that application for Community
Development Block Grants are due to the Department of Housing and
Urban Development (HUD) prior to the end of the fiscal year. The
proposed resolution and application are based on 300 existing
units and 200 new units, with the total application being amended
to reflect the changes in numbers.
RESOLUTION NO. CDC75 -32: Mr. Seymour offered Resolution No.
CDC75 -32 for adoption.
A RESOLUTION OF THE ANAHEIM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION,
ACTING AS THE ANAHEIM HOUSING AUTHORITY, APPROVING AN APPLICATION
FOR FUNDS UNDER SECTION 8 OF TITLE II OF THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT ACT OF 1974.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Mrs. Kaywood, Mr. Pebley, Mr. Sneegas and Mr. Seymour
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mr. Thom
Chairman Pro Tem Seymour declared Resolution No. CDC75 -32 duly
passed and adopted.
ADJOURNMENT: There being no further business, Mrs. Kaywood moved to
adjourn. Mr. Seymour seconded the motion. MOTION CARRIED.
ADJOURNED: 1:28 P.M.
SIGNED f
Secretary, An
im Community Development Commission