Minutes-PC 1976/07/22~ • ~ ~
~I(lIN'i' COMMUNI'1'Y Itlsl)1:VL:1~C1!'MI~;IJ'C C:UMhSI~S:ION, 1'Lt~NN1N~~ C:OMMIS:;ION 11N1)
1~12OJI:C'1.' A1tl;n C[)MM'1'1"P1~F:~ MIaI~'(`ING U1~' JULY T.l ,:l~'7G
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Plti:~~:N`l': 1'Etn;J[~;C'.l' J1RL~~ ~~UhSM'L'1"1'l:l~ MEMIi1:ItS:
PR1:SisNT: S'1'A~'1':
The meetiny was call.ed to or.dex at 7:10 I~.M.
INTRO~UC'POl2Y REMARKS:
Ls;iy, Dinn~iort:, hlencl<.z,
Morri:i, Mo:-~s, Useicl
llt~r.nc~c~, Jot'tnson, Kinq,
Mui•loy, 'I'olar
13rcwn, Clar.k, I.:i.r.hrc~dt,
F:ngc~lhrccht, ~:;i~i cksc>ii,
I,e~, Nc~aki.rk, ~.'ayclll~
Rc~t-ncr. , Ward, FJoods
171.ur.ock, Fcrr-a1d, ll i l.l ,
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hir. James Morri.s, Chairman, Cammunity Reclevelopm~nt Co~nmi5sion, asked
L-}Zai: a~tention UP ~lirected to the redevelopment of L-hc ccntral city ar~~~
with res~>c,ct to .resi.d~~nt.i.al and hous.ing. M~~mbers oi= thc~ Ci ~:.y Planning
Commi.ssi.on and of tl•~e ~'roject Area Commi~Y_ee r.emai,ned si].ent when aske:d
ii they had any opening comments.
Qu~stionnai.res wer^ distributed to Project Alpha area p~operty owners.
STAF'F RLVIEW:
Mr.. Knowlton Fer.nald, Director, Redevelopm~nt Sta£f, reviewerl the doau-
ments which wer.e distributed to the asseml.~lecl meniUers and citizc~n parL-i-
ci~ants. Mr. Fer.nalcl commrnted that many ideas wer.e off~red at the
:tuly 20 meeting and that goa].s must first be sstablis'ned, thcn attemVt.s
macie t.o achi~ve them wi.th a vision of thc city as it w:ill be 50 to 100
ycars from iaow. Goals ~or the residential community mi~J}it. include :
(1) Preservation, maintenance and enhancement of the resider.ti.al envirori-
ment of the community by: (a) Construction of new hausi-~g; (b) Itehah:ili-
tai:ion af exi~ting '~using ~ohere possible; (cl ':~iocati~n nf. structurE~s
when feasible or ne~:essary. (The downtown area :~:ds not a planned area,
and i.ts con~is~uity may rt~quire moving single family dwellings to new loca-
tions among oth~x older homes.); (d) CorrectLon of deficiencies i.n public
improvement~, such as roads, sidewalks, alleys, street lights and
utili~ies; (e) Provision of public facilities for recreat.ion and other
serviceG; (f) Prcvision of f.inancial aid to low and moderate incomc
families for the gurpose of u~grading th~ir property. `Phe second goal
concerns buf.f.ering residential areas ~aith landscaping, walls, etc., as
protection from l~ighways and railraad tracks. Traff.ic patterns m~y bc
chanSed to d3.vert traffic aw~,y from r.esidential communities. Mz. Ferna].d
also mentionecl the desirability of increasing ttie populatiori of the
Yroject Alpha area in order to support ~he merchants in tt~at az~ea.
Publir_ assistance programs are available. A maxi.-RUm effect on the commun-
ity can be ac.hie~~ed by using tYie proper proyraai, or com}ain~~io-~ of. l~.rogr<<m::~.
~].igible activities iriclude pub~ic works, community services, soci~~l
servicc:s, and senior citizc~r.s centers. T}~ere arc~ also pro~rams for
historic pr~perties~ landscaping, open space and wal}:ways. Allocat~d funds
could b~ comUined with other funds to build a Community Center. Thc
Federal Housing Authority will provide rental assisl-.ance to quali.fied
fzmilies and will allow funding for the rehabilii:ation o.f exi.sting st~r.uc-
turr . There are also funds available for• new const.r.uc:i~ion.
C;. ;er the guidance of the State Relocation Assisl.ance Act it is recognized
that in any revitalization effort there may be rcason to recycle some of
the land in the project; from sub-standara to new dwellings, cornmei~cial
to residential, or resiclential to commcrcial. Itelocation assisL-ance is
availabl.e to either owner or tenant. The new location must bc equal to
or better than the ~l.d loczta.on. The own~r or tenant may select ~he new
loc~ation, with all moviny costs covered for relocation within 50 miles.
When an awner-occtipied residence must be acquired, tt~e resident may
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ca~c:qor. i.~~;,: o:~taU.li.shed, :~t:~.hlr_. ncic~hbor.'h~c~cls wil:h w~ll~k~~~~ uldar
hoiuc:~; ancl ar~a:~ which ar.e papul~iL•ed by i:ransi~nls. ltr. s~ac,ke ot lhe
M~xican pai~ul~~iun as a I>c~oplc wil-.h a skronc~ .~ocial hcril-.ag~~ whc:~ m~+y
:~eum to fall ~n~a thG tran:~ir~n~. catec~or`y but wl~c~ ~houlc] b~ ~.reated as
a sE~ecial case. Granl.s ~hould b~ made av~ilablc ~c~ h~me ~wner:; who
wttnL to imE~rc~ve their dwe.llings. L,o;~ii~ ui~d fJY'~IIlL:3 undcr. som~ c:<~ndi-
t.iacis S~1C7111C1 he givan tn the abseiit:ee awn~~.
Mr.. Gunt L:ichr.oclt, memb~r., Project Arc~~ Comm.iti.eF~, would li.ke to know
whet;~c~r Alpha ~zrea rec i c1~~nLs w~--nt h.a move from their homes an:l how
4~cnic~r citilens feel ahouk s~ni~r ci L- i~c:n camE~lcxNS. Cit•izuna WI10 did
r~~t wt~nt. to speak br.. fore the yr.oug were .i.nvitecl to cal.l r1r. Lichrodt a~
~i.~ri•-Z~QB.
hl:;. ~atricia II,~iley has been a ci~izen of J~nalicim i.ot five years <<cid
woi.ild prefcr to lesl wittt local nierchants. ahe does not own a c~r~
musl depend on ~ub.l.ic transportation, anc3 would rath~r. shoE~ in the
local area. Ms. ~3ai lcy referred to Plhittier, wh~re an i.ncreased popu-
lai:i.on 1ed to thu devc~lopment of many shoppiny cent•ers, and r.esidenta
oC ihe downtown arc~~i we.re abl.e i;o retain thei.r homes. Erapty shop
window~, dirty an<t broken sidewalks are displcasing, but the downtown
area is primarily for the citizenry of Anaheiin; not the totirist.
Ms. Grace Jaiiis rEpresents the IIo~rd o~ Trustces who own 7.02 W. Broadway,
which is on t:t~e fringe of the Project Alpha area. bi~. Janis feels we
l~av~ only i:o l.ook at what has happened to ~astern citics to fi.nd what
happens when there is a large population in a smail arca. She is proud
of these hearinys and of the people wh~ come to listen and plan Cor some-
th~ng rhat is better than New York City, s~ that we can have residc~ntial
and commercial all in the same ar~ ~, living comfortably together..
RrCAP AND STAI'F DIRECTION F'OR NEXT MEETING:
A citiz~n a~ke~1 if: questions could be mailed in, and bt.r. Mor.ris sugyasted
such c;uestions he brougtit to the meetings and given fi~ or~e of th.e staLf
mc~mbers. All ~ue~tions wi11 be answered fr.om i:h~ podium.
Mr. FrPd B;:c:::: suggeRted that the ~ormat ~~f tha next meetinr~ be chanyed
to allow f.c~r. tha answering of questions. Mr. Morris asked f.ar a show
of hands indicating the group's desire to have .:eparaf discussion groups
ar the next meeting.
Mr. Leitar. reiterated his confidence in the Project Area CommittE~e and
expressed his frustration that there had been no pr.esentation fro~n that
committee.
Mr. Stewart Moss, Community Redevelopmerit Commissioner, responded thdi; na
particular agency or ~dy was designated to have any particular presenta-
ti~n in thi.s mePting. 11 are here to ~isten ta the people.
Mr. Jess Payan, member, Project Area Committee, described that cvmmittee's
function: To recei~~e input and act as liaison to the Ylanning Depar.~ment
ancl the Redevelopment Commit.tee. The committee is here to listen. "We
do not want to get up and te11 you what we are going to do. i9e warit to do
what you want, and that is why we are listenin~t at this point."
Mr. :terry Ward, another Project Area Committ~e member, doe~ not want ariy-
body to think the cor,unittee is getting railroaded hy the Redevelo~men+~
Commi.ssion, because it is not. Both are in the sarn~~~ boat atid tryinq to
help.
Mr. Morris advised the group that one or two commissioners plan i:o atter...
all PAC meetings, and PAC memUers attend the meet9.ngs af the commission~rs.
Mr. Leitao suggested that the PAC Chairman present a summary of thei.r
hard work to ~he City Council. PAC members responded nc:gatively to
b;r.~ M~rris' restatement of the suggestion.
Mr. Moss suggested that a vate be taken on the suggestian that the format
of the next meeting be changed.
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~1rs. Lc~~~ .•F~oke in [ravor. oL t~.he st~c7~_~ec~t~.on L•hat c.YuesLion~ l.,e sent. ~7r
1~rauytiL in. E'os:3ibly thr que~~t3.un3 will revcal t.he rc~at r,rob].cm~.
PAC Ilr+~• t~,i~can r.lo~cc~r.~ ~o t.he E~.icturr.. bec~~~is~ 1~AC rnembex:~ have l-.~~l.kucl tu
t.he ~~eopl.c,. New problcn~:i hav~ ari~r.n, ancl c~uesi:f.ons 1n:+werc~cl from t-hc:
pod:i.um wi ].'1. het~~ t!n ~~11.. The clirecrioa~ has chaa7~~~a.
Mr.s, L;r~qel}:~rc~ch~., l~~C metnUE~r, mentionec~ Lhat som~ mrr.c;h~~nts l~~vc~ ,.pakeil
toni.c~ht ancl that., hc~c.~uscr of: thc~ demise of thc~ dawnt-.c~wn ar~ci, t}~c~: e
m~r.•eh~:~nLa clCt? 1iv:i.n~~ l.tter.all.y ix-om day i:a clay. The Rc.,dc~v~:lc~i~menl:
7lgenc:y and th~ who:c I~roce~s werc wil-hin 30 c~c~ys, or a mc~ximum o.f GC
day:;, l:o pul: thc ~'~dc~`vc~topment plan inko proee~s. So !-.he reciir.~~ctio~l
has bcen a gr.e,it ~~liock to tli~se merchant•.a. Mr~. 1?n~Jelbrecht ~;Lat~cl
tF-at she knc~ws thc h<:rdstii.p~ of th~se peol~le; they arc un<<bl.r. to p~~y
th~ir uti.lity l~ills, rerit, or he'lp. "Time is of tl~~c c: ~sence. I,eL•'s
work t:oycth~~r. . . "
A citi~en s~iggest~ed L-he meet.inqs cuntintie as thc-:y ar•c~. ~t we arc~ to
si•.art agr.iiti, :~Lar.t wii:h ctiFfereni: idc:as. If 3omeLiody ha~ somel-.hing to
say, lc~ hi.m say :it.. TIZ~ mcrchants ate ~uffering. Time is ovei:ciue.
We ha~l a pJ.an ancl il was pertectly acceptablc~ L-o most. peo[~1~. 'i'hat has
chancjecl. ilow lonct wa.l.l. it ga? If there is writiny and answeriny it
wi? 1 be anot:her six ye~~rs.
Anot:hcr gentleman askecl if i.t is true or untrue that no matter wnat: ~n,y-
onc~ herc dF~cides tY~cy really h~ve nothing ta say; the City Council wi.L1
mak~ i:he decisi.or~. "We arc~ talking aUout ~' we will suggest to Ti;;e
people. ~~
Mr. Mor.ris explain~d that the Redevel~pment Commis::ion acts as a 1.ega1
Califorr~ia bady. I'AC advisPS tl~e Commission, and we act on it. Most
of these plans are pr.esenteci to the Planna.ng Commission, who mus~ also
aPprc~vc tkiem. If all. three of th4se bodies, in order, approve tl:e p.lan,
it then goes to the ac~ency, which is the Council in this case. Fina7.ly,
it is tlle agenc:y (Council) that has the author.ity to ad.opt a plan.
Glenn Johnsori, T''lanning Commi.ssioner, assured the group that; City Council
wants input f-rom the people. He didn't thinlc ii: was proper to insert
int.c~ the tone of i.he me~tiny that what we are doing her.~ i: tutile or
won't be listened to by the Cout-ci1. yf we come up with an answer th~y
do*~'t expec~, they are obligated to listen to the accomplishments o~
this meeting.
Ms, vir<J ~nia 5hay wonder.ed if there is so:ne way to i:el]. hnw much tl:~
plan~ would cost the average t~xpayer.
Mr. F'ernald ref~rred to t.he notebooks which had been distributed. Ther~
is a full analysis of. the original plan that was recommended. As the
gr.oup i~egins to fo.rmulate plans, we can beqin to identify areas and
concepts and refer to that analysis for the answers. We have to tliink
of cost and accomplishment'; what i.t produces returns money to th~ commun-
ity. The cost is about 80 mil:Lion dollars over the next fifteen years
for that particular plan. rlost of 'those costs are associ~ted with
publa.c 9.mprovements that need to be made for almos~ any plan; the storm
drain system, for example. That storm drai.n cost wi.ll r.emain the same
in any plan. The utility system won't var}~ more than 5-10~ from the
cost iri tlle estimate. Acquiring and conv~l'ting L-o ~znottier use are
].arc~er costs. These costs won't increase taxes fo.r. th~se living i~~si~ie
or outside the are~i. It is a redistribution of taxes ~haL would be
levied any~~ ~~y.
Mr. :~ing reierred to thc motion ttiat a vote be taken conc:~r:ning a
seminar-type meeting.
1~ cztiv,en would like to amend the motion so thut the ent.irc yroup will
reconvene after the seminar and sutnmarizc~ their discussions.
Mr. rloss su~7gested t.he ~~eminar tables have at ]~east two member~, from
thc t:h~'ee groups ai~cl t.hat, i..~ poss:i.ble, every memUer af the lteciev~alopmeitt
Ag~~-~~~y be in attendance at the La~les.
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7'hc~ vo~ing i.riat.ia.ily con.;icler.eci, (:L) a~;~in.in:ir, excludiny C?t:y Coun~ 11
n,~.,-nber.::, nnc] (,2) a He-nin~~r. wh:icl'- would inc.lu~le City Counc•i.l. '1'he
L~tit:tcr c~r~si.c:lera~ion wan f:~vor.~d. liowever, Lur.t:hc~r vot-in~3 aat:riUlish<~d
t.h~~ tact t~t'~r~t 2f3 citi.zen~ f.avorea conLinuinc~ wi.th th~~ C>r.e~c~nt tormat.;
whi.lc~ 26 pr.eferr.~d plan (?.) abave.
1~ wa~ suggesc:ecl t.i~-at th~~ ncxt mee;.iny ~~egin at 7:00 P.M., with C~tl'LG119
Lree to r~am am~ny t:he tal>les nnd a~k q~acsi:ion3 for 30 minutes. 'i'li~
b~~.lance of: the mecting woulcl i~c~llow th~~ curr.eni: format. '1'h.i.s ~norion
r.ecr.ived a ncy~ttive vote.
Mr. Kohlenbery as)eed t;fiat the mec~ting .for.mat br L~G~Y~li~hed in the n<~w:~-
1~apc r .
h1r. Lcitao moved that thc three bnd:tes represen~ed here hav~ a meeting
of their own and com~ up wihh thr~~ ~pproaches to g~~t pr~oduceiv~ resul~s
fr.om these sessians; to be pre~entc~d ai: th~~ vcr.y beginzling oi: the next
t^cct~nc~ for a vote of all .in atlenda:~ce~ and ~.hen, "let.'s go". Dttine
three methods 1:haL- could be usec~ insi:ea~~ of. askittg hew we want to do
i.t. The mot.iun was s~~conded ~nd carried.
btr.. Morr.is asked i.f thex~e w~re further questi.ons From those in attend-
ance.
GeurcJe Lang, a zeal estate broker who represcnts sevEral clients in
dc~wnto~,~t~ Anaheim, stated that he has attended both meetings and nothiny
ha:~ b~~en accom~~li.shecl. 1None of the plans merition a new location for
the ~'it~~ Hall.
Mr. Morris hopes we will know at the conclusion of these meetings.
The general meeting was conc].uded, and Community Reclevelopment
CommissionPrs and members of the Planning Commission and the Fro;ject
Area Committee mek in consideration of the formal motion f.or tlzr~e
~lans.
Mr. Stewart Moss muved, and Charlene Barnes secondecl a motion that the
followinq alt~rnatives be presented tor vote at the next neeting:
1. The meetings be conducted foll.awing th~~ current fo.rmat.
2. There be an introduction and presentation, followed by the f~rma-
ti.on of smaller discixs~ion gr.oups. After a specified periad of
time, reconvene for the rernainder of the meeting.
3. The meeting follow a seminar format, where ci~izens would sit dawn
in groups with various representatives. No~es would be taken by
eaah graup and reviewed in a general meeting at the end of the
evening.
The formats might include:
1.. Discussions of the v~arious plan~ which are posted on the board.
2, Di~cussion groups; each group concerning itself w~.th one spec:ific
aspect of redevelopment, such as housiny, ~ommercial, etc.
3. The merits of one specif.ic plan would be discussed at eacY. meeting.
The motion unanimously carried.
The meeting adjourned at 10:20 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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E~ersy Jones, ecretary
Com~nunity RPdevelopment Commission
Project Area Committee
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