Minutes-PC 1980/07/28~
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Clvle Center
Anaheln+~ Califor~i~
July 28~ 1g80
REGUTAR MEF,TIN~ Of THE ANAHEIM CITY PLANNiN~ CbMMISSION
REGULAR - The regular meeting of the Anahelm Clty Planning Comml~slon waa called
MEETING ta o~dar by Chalrwoman Barne~ at 1:30 p.m.~ July 28~ 19SQ In the
Council Chamber~ a quorum being p~esent.
PaESENT - C~~t~woman: Barnes
Commissianerss Bouss. 8ushore~ Fry~ Herbat~ Ktng~ Tolar
ABSENT - COMMISSIONERS: None
ALSO PRESENT - Jack White
Jack Judd
Pau) Singer
Anntka Santalahtl
Dean Sherer
Edith Her~ls
Asalstant City Attorney
Civt 1 E~~;,::seering Assoclate
Traffl~ cngineer
Asslstant Director for 2oning
Asslstant Planner
Planntng Cammisston Secreta ry
PLEDGE OF - The Pledgr. of Alleglance to the Flag was led by Conkntssf~ner Herbst.
ALLEGIANCE
APPROVAL OF - Commis~toner King offered a motion that the minutes of the rtieetings of
THE MINl1TE5 June 30~ 198d and July 14~ 1980 be approved es sut~mitted.
Chal~woman Barnas a~ked that mo~e of the comme~ts be added which ahe
made ~et tha June 30th meeting relsttng to Commlssiener D~vid's conNnendable
and diiigent se~vic~e as a Planning Commissloner. Can~++issioner Toler
seconded the mctton that the minUtes be spproved, t~cluding the additton~
and MQTION CARRIED (C amntssloner Herbst abstsPni~g on the appraval of the
July 14th meeting ancl Commissiane~ Bouas abstalntng on both].
CERTIFICATE OF - Comml~sloner Herbst oftered a motton~ seconded by Commlssioner Ktng,
COMMEN~A710N and MOTION CARRtEO that th~ Anaheim Ctty Planning Commisston does
heret,v Instruct the Staff to prepare a Certificate
of Canrnendation to be presented to fo~mer Pie~ning Con~missioner A1min Davtd
for hls dillgent work and itne service Ls a Plenning ConMntssionar.
ITEM N0. 1 PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: ORANGE COUFiTY TRANSIT
~T~~I~VE OECLARATION OISTRICT~ P. A. Box 3A05~ Garden Grove~ CA 92642.
_~ M NT :GENT: MICF;AEL G. MACK, MGR. OF ENGINEERING, OCTO~
OND t~L U5~Et~M~~N~. 2082 P. 0. Box 3005~ Gerden Grove, CA 92642. Petitioner
requests permisston TD PERM17 A 8US
FACILITY IN THE ML ZONE WITH WAIVER
OF MAXIMUM FENCE HEIGHT on p~operty described ss an irregularly-shaped parcel of lsnd
consiating ot approximately 10.5 acres located north and west of the northv+est corner of
Vta Bu~ton St~eet and State College Boulevard~ h~ving approxlmatr frontages of 475 feet on
the nc+rth side of Vla Burton Street snd 284 feet on the west side of State Coilege
Boulevard~ and further describad as 1717 East Vta Bu~ton Street. Property presently
ciassifted ML (INDUSTRIAL, LIMiTED) ZONE.
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EIR NEGATIVE DECIARA'f ~N~ MAIVER QF CODE itFQUIREMENT ANO
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SubJect patitlon was contlnued fran the meeting of June 3~~ 1980~ far further s~udy snd
ev~luation of tha propoaad use.
TherN were app~oximately nin~e pars~na Irtdicattnn thelr presence in opposition to subJect
request, and aithuugh the staff reaort to the Planning Cartknisslon dated .~uly 28~ 1980 was
not reed at tha publtc hea~rtng, It Is referrr~f to and mede s part of the minut~:s.
Mlchael Mack~ 11222 Acacla Pa~kway~ Gerden GrOVd~ Califarnla 92~42~ stated the Orance
County Transit Distrlct is playing a critlcal role in the futui•e of Oranqe County, end
based on continued gravth~ tnfletlon~ ~imtted energy resou~c~s end llmited governments)
~evenues, thair baslc frsmework for g~c~vth stnce 1~72 consists of prrnriding productlve snd
efficlent t~ansportatlon~ as w~ell as the neces:~ary support fectltties to maintain~
dlspatch and store a fleet of 25A buaes ~t cach iocetlon. Th~ Dis~~ict hes constructed
mdin;enance facillties In Garden Grev~ ~nd Irvtne, and to enhance operationul efficiency
and prc,•vide additianal bus ser ce to Orange County patrons~ it ,~as determined the third
facility would be most advantageous In the northern segment of the County. Eleven sltes
were tnvest-gated In terms o~` avallabllity and costs and specific criterla related to the
sttes were: (a)slte of epproxlmately ln acres tn siz~; (b)undeveloped land ta reduce
(nltlal costs; (c)adJacent to freeway to mtnimlze unproductlve mileage; and (d) a location
in the northeast po~tlon of Anahelm. The site chos~n as the best locatlon w~s the sub)ec-,
slte at Stete College and Vta Bu~tan.
He stated from November 1975 to .~~nuary 197R the Distrlct matnta~tned e small bus storage
yard a; 8025 Vla Bu~ton a~d no problems were encountered; that a public hearing was
conducted by the Jlstrict on August 11~ 1977, to consider the soctal economlc end
envTronmental impacts of the propas~d p~oject~ and the Dlstrict received a qrdnt from the
Department of 7ransportati~~n, Urhen Mass Transir AdministrAtion~ on May 17~ 1978 to
purchase the property and to destgn the A~ahetm Maintenance and Operatlons Faciltty; that
appralsals to determine Ju.,t compensation vaiue were made and 1.0 acre wss pu~chased from
Hickory Far~ns cf Ohio o-i 5eptember 17, 191~1~ and 9.5 acres were purchased f~om Nattonsl
Diverstfted I~vestors on Febr-~ary 25~ 1980.
Mr. Mlack stated the proposed proJect has been determined not to ha~ a siqnlficant
environn-ent effect ay tht Oepartment of Transportation on May 17~ '17d~ the Southe~n
Csli~o~nia O,sociation of Gove~nments ~n J~~ly 3~ 1980~ the State Clearingh~use on July 16~
1980 and the Dist~Ict Board of OtrQCtars on July 21~ 1980.
He stated traffic generated by the proposed pro~ect on 5tace Col'eqa and Vta Burton wiil
have vlrtually no impact on the standard mo~ning and evening peak periods because the
Distrtct's peak hours of operation do not coincide with standard peak periods. To
n+inimize any traff impact on Via Burton. all buses will ente~ the site from State
Colleg~ and only thuse buses departing the sita travetinq north on State College would use
Vla Bu~ton and all autemobfle tr~fftc generated will usa Via Burton. He add~d the City
Traffic Engfneer has reported that trafftc Impacts anticipated from devel~ping the proJect
area wtth an average industrial devel~pment would be severc during peak perlods on Via
Burton as opposed to the Dtstrict's minimal impaet from this proposed use.
Ne felt noise ge~erated by the pr~Je:t wili n:~t exceed maxlmum nolse levels already ln thG
vTcinity by other notse sou~ces and w111 be in the acceptable category of the scate and
federal guldeli.-Ls. Me also felt proJect generated emiss.tons will be far lass than the
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CONOITIONAL USE PE1tMIT N0. 2Q82 (CONTINUEO)
backgr~und pollutant level tn the slte a~ea end the effect on the pro)ect wlil not b~
signlficant. In •ddltton~ tha proJect wlil have son~e beneflctal eftect on the Los Angeles
basln'g slr quality becaus• tt wi11 reduee the nwnber of m11es busea n+ust travel to ~nd
from routes In the northern part of Or~nge County.
Yhe odors assoclated with diesel emisslons are generally ass~clated wfth ~tdehyde
emissions ~ran exhaust and sldehydea are a famliy of orQAnic compounds Includ~d In the
hydrocs~bon emissions snd are primarily the reault of inca~olete canbustion. Odors fran
the facilttY will not bs e problem ~s the die~el angines w111 he properly tuned resulting
in ve~y 11tt1e odorous emlasions,
Mr. Mack stated since the continuatton of this Iten bv the Pl~nninq Conmtsslon on June 30~
1980~ the Distrlct hss met wtth the Industrielists on four occssl~ns to descrlbe the
proposau proJect~ Its dally operatlonal characteristics~ envir~nmentsi tmpacts and to
addr~ss alternative solutions to thei~ concerns. Th~ maetings w~re held on July 2 at the
OCTD Offices~ July 10 at the Anahelm Chambe~ ~f Canm~rce office~ ~uly iB ~t Fiuldniasters~
and July 23 et the Ctty ~f Anaheim offie~s. He ststed~ u~~f~rtunately~ r~4 compromiie
agreeable tu both perties could he reached. '~c Distrlct has dfscovered fran thcse
discusslons one Qxtstino condittun on Vta Burton whTch needs tmm~dlate actlon~ and thet ts
the west leg of Vts Burton shc•.~ld be widened and the curb redii Increased to p~ovide
easter access to and from Vta Burton. He stated the itistrict M-ould be wtlltng to fund
thesa additional off-site Improvements to provide safer trrffic R~ovements on Vla Burton.
He concluded the Oistrict requests that ttie pro]ett be approved because the factlity is
vitalty needed to provlde improved bus e~rvice to the transit t~r' ons of Oranqe County;
that the project will not have a s:gntficant effect on the env' ,nent; and that the
proJect costs will increase at a rate ~~f S9C~,AOQ per month due to any time delsys in
completing the proJe~t.
Tam Fldning, repr-;senting ~IUIdRBStCfS~ 18~G Vla Burton. Anahetm~ asked if the Commisslon
hsd recetved s copy of thair statement of oppositian nointing out one was ftted
prematurely without a date and the complete one is dated July 24~ iq$f1.
Chairwornan ~arnes repli~d *h~ Commtssian had received the one dsted July ?4, 19A0, and had
reviewad it and cort~allmented Mr. FlemlRg tndtcating she felt the statement Is very well
written.
Mr, Fiaming referre~ to Mr. Msck's statement that odors Frdn the proposed project will not
ba a problam and sta:ed tiat on a day like today with the poor alr quatt~y~ he wss glad he
did not have to try to convlnce the Commission thet 250 buses wouid not create
obJect~onable odors becaus~ ;,omrnon sense dictates thst they would.
He introduced representatives of businesses in ~he area dirsctly affected by this pro~ect
who oppose this proJect at thTs site: Adolph Scholle~ Fluldmasters; J. R. Spively,
Spivco; Norma Stave~s~ Mortgage Systems ye~vlce; Adam Huber, Champion's Cholce Inc.;
Marran Ro~,endale, Tri-Star ~lastics; Bill OnFo~rest, MaJor Lock and Svpply; Roy Swinea,
Faveri!e Foods; John D. Clemmons~ Trico Packaging; Ir~ Newman, Chevron Statlon; Mr,
Wrlyley~ Terminex Pest Co~trol; Harold Poor~ bemler fArms. Inc.; and aey Ast, Avionic
St~uctures~ Inc. and Mr. Ast Indicated anather n~embcr af their company was als~ present;
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Jim Gllmora~ 8ekins Movtng t 5torage; and Lester T)elmeland~ Sabina Electrlc end
Englneering. Three other persans Indicated thelr presence In appoaitton.
Mr. Flaming steted all thosa people he introduced wo~k tn tne area end It Is not thel~
positlon thst the Transit District should not build this facilltr or th~t It ts not
needed~ but It ts thetr positlon that thia ls nnt the riqht place far it; thet this is a
co~gasted areA A~-+ ' admittedfy a problem ares snd Is virtuelly landlocked an th~ee sides
and one of t' cs does provide ecces~ through Vla 8u~ton. He dld not think widening
the ~tre~t wli rove the trsffic cl~tul~tlon problem and the fr~t that tha Vla
Burton/State College int~rsection has baen ~ebulit thra~ times ~lr~ady indtcstes that it
is a problem and is a continuing prehlem; that the Trensit District representative sstd
that they have had bua storage faclilttes or Vla Burton before and It is true they did
store mini-buses on Via ~urton, but it is not true that therr. were no problems~ becausa it
dld create a tr•~pndous p~oblem. He fett It ~as r~located because It was a problem.
He falt the Conmtsslon should be eware of the fact and sensitive to the issue that the
site abuts a large apertment cr~~piex and people are living adJacent to this site end he
felt the noise and odo~s that w111 be caused by thts fbcillty will be a problem to those
pGOple. He stated he wc~uld noc want to Iive edJacent to a bus storaqe facillty an~ did
not think the Commtsslone~s would either; that the Initiai Study submitted by the
petttioner Indicates sorne nolse and odors will be ceus~d~ hut thet they wi11 not really be
a p~obldn because the site is adJacent to a freew~y and the area is elready ~otsy and
smelly. He did nat think that is a good enov~n reasan to grant thts request.
Hr. Fleming felt the Conmisslon should consider the fact that at rhe present time~ it Is
conceivable that s paramedtc unit or a fire truck could not get down Via 8urton during a
time when there Is a congestton problem at the intersec;lon and he was not sure widening
the intersmction would solve that problem; that there is also e pedestrian traffic
condition with peopie who live tn those apartn~nt complexes using Vla Bu~ton for
pedestrlsn access to State Colinge and he felt suddenly thrusting 150 full-tlme w~rkers
commuting through tl~ere and 250 busas coming and gotng up and down that street wtll create a
sTgnlficant safe~y hazard.
He stated ail of these p~~blems outlined curre~tly exist and hdve been the basis for
denlal of a number of appiicatlons for conditional use permtts tn *.he past and rQferred to
th~ gas statlon owner on the carner of State College and Via Burton who recently requestad
twv addltional service bays and the appltcetion wes denled because of the crowding~
cangestlon and logistical prohlems in this a~ea and also because of the safety hezard;
another request was from Avionic Structures for a paTnt booth to paint small parts whlch
was dented~ but the Translt Otstrict wants facilities to paint buses whtch ts against the
Anaheim Muntcipal Code.
Mr. Fleming stated the only r.oncrete proposat the DTst~ict has made to counter sane of
these problans is to wtden Via Burton and take property from the existtnc~ tenants and
property own-ers and to widen the Intersectton or turning radtus and he dtd not think th~+t
wl~l solve the p~oblem. He was surprtsed that in the last 3~ drys they did not come up
with something bette~; that thay hst.~e had several meetings and durtng thos~ meetings the
srea ~esid~nts have made a number of recommendatia~s, none ~f which ha~e been co~siciered~,`_
Na stated they recan~nend the ~equest be dentad on the basis that this is not the right '~
ptece for this use and tt ts poorly concetved to put thts kind of a large factlity on this
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property and make no pr~~~~ston for eny of the existing problerna. He felt the cheracter of
use whtch the bus facill~y would b~ing to this area Is really na diff.rent than e truck
yard on thi~ 1d-a~cre site.
Another ~e~oRxnendatlon of the are~ ~•esidents was that all praJect ~eleted tr~ffic be kept
ofF Vis Burton. Ne presented copies of an assessor~s map for the Commission~s review
showing thelr recaMnend~+~lons for traff?c circutation. Thelr first and aest
recommend~tion to the Dtstrtct Is that the District he requt-ad to pravtde access to end
from the factlity north to Oranqethorpe Av4nue which is a very realtstic and vlable
optlon hecause there is an abandoned sin~le-fan,ily residence in the 2100 block of
Orangethorpe Avenue whlch abuts dlrectly on the property. Thls would qive this facility
the advantage of tts oam tndivlduai seRai•ote m~ens of tnqress and egress; that
Orengethorpe (s a much wtdcr and less d~n;~ely p~pul~ted street then State College and
there iS a gc~od deal of distance between ex(sting stop slqnals~ so lf It would be
feaslbl~ to erect a signal and create an intersection ~ust for th~at purp~~se,tt would take a
lot oF zraftic which would he created by this factltty off th~ ~+r~r. The seeond
recommendation made to the Qistrfct was th,~t Via Burton b~~ exte~dr_d ti~rough to Acacia which
would present *,he advantage ~f provt~i~~a another rt~ans of tnc~re,s and eqress to and from
the existtng indust~les and would eliminate same of the b~ttleneck en State Colle~e~ but
probebly would not be as good an optlon as q~ing out to Orangethorpe. A third
~ecomme~datlon~ regardless of other proF.~sals, Is the reallqnment of the Vla Burton/Stete
Coitege interse~tion by pushing the Qasterly haif of Vla Burton north so tt allqns
directly wlth the weste~ly ha1f. And last~ ba~t not least~ there is the alternetlve
available af paving over the Flood Control Distrtct Channel and taking all the proJect
related traffic In and out that way which may be a mc~r~ expensive ~iternattve~ and pointed
out an engineer who is present hes advlsed It Is f~astble end coul~ be dnne.
He stated if none of these recc~rtrr-endattcns are feasihle end 11` there are no other
solutions to the problems in this area~ he felt the only concluston the Planntng
Commtsslon can come to is that this facillty does not brlong o~ thts slte.
Mr. Fleming stated in the ~ast 3 or 4 days area residents manaqed to come up wlth
p~oposed al~ernattve sltes and coptes of the maps that desc~ibe those sites ar~ attached
to the wrltten opposttton filed. Ne felt if they found four In that short pe~tod~ s~rely
the Transit Dtstrict could find more with their resources, Includin,y ustng brokers and
advcrtising in the paper. He referred to an advertisement by the los Angetes Rapid
Transit District in the peper on July 29th as follows: "RTD is looking for tand. We w~nt
ta buy 12 to 18 acres of industrfal zoned land in southwest Los Angeles for a bus
maintenance facility. If you are selitng a suitable property (n the Torrance, Gardena~
Carson nr Comptan a~eas~ not on ftll, and p~~ferably close to the San Dtego or Harbor
Freeways~ please write..." He stated if the Orange County Transit Distrfct has dane thts,
he has not seen the ad er heard about it and for some reason they have decided thny want
the property at 1717 East Vi~ Burton and he did not think they can explain why. He stated
if they do find an aiternate site~ they can sell thts tt1-acre site to the hlghest bidder
end he was sure there are a number of develc-pers who would like to have that property for
development and was sur~ the Dtstrict could turn a nice proftt which miqht be the first
profitable transaction they havt engaged in tn a long time. In addition,there are a number
af nther state and county•owned praperties adJacent to freeways whlch are already off the
tax rol) and thts property has tremendnus tAx-producing potential with a ntte ~esponstbly
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developed Industrisl site +~nd he felt that is ~omethtng the Cormtssian sh~uld keep In
mtnd.
Me referred to the compariaon of this use wtth ~ nic~ fndu~trial perk anA ststed he did
not know where the petltloners got tFiel~ figures, but the are•~ residents hsve exp~rfence
(n terms of ho-v many people work at the tndustrtai plants~ ha,, m~~y truck deiiveries they
h8ve an~ that is the ba~is f~r their proJectians.
He stated It (s clear that thi: ts a rrbssive fac~lfty and is ~~tnQ to tnvofve e masslve
vxpendlture of publlc funds and the Tr~nsft Dlstrict is verv nreud of the fact that (t has
federa) funding for this pro,)ect~ but the source of tax dall~rs is the same wheth~r It is
state~ county, federal o~ local, ond ever~one Is psying thoae taxes~ Including buslnesses
in the ~rea. He fslt the P)anntnq Commisslon's prlmerv duty Is first to consider wh~t Is
the highest and best use of thls parcel of land and whether It is for a truck yard or e
bus matntenancQ factllty o~ for a r~sponslbly deveioped fndustridl perk. He felt the
Commlssion has a duty to considPr what the Impecc of this bus malntenacne facllity wi11 be
on the surrounding areas~ adJacent properYles and peopl~ who wo~l~ In the area and
even more fund~mental, the Commisslon hes a duty to see that the messive federal fundsaor
tax doliars thet are gaing to be sp~nt on this f~~tilty ~r~ spent tn the most ~conantcal,
productive and advantageous way possible. and not Just with the Transtc ~I~trlct's
trm~diste need (n mtnd~ but also with the welfere of all the citl,ens of this County and
thls City. He stated for ell chose reason~ on behalf nf F~u~d~sters and thr_ other
businesses~ he would respectfully requ~st that the Commfssion deny the appiTcatlon.
Larry Slerk, Anahelm Chsmher of Camnerce, stated he was Instrumental In asking for a 30-
day continuance end also (n h~loing ta pu11 together the JuIY lOth meetinq at the Chamber
office be~~en the staff of OGTD~ who outllned the g•neral p1An for the area~ ~s well as a
representative of the Clty Planning Department and the City Trafflc Engineer, and also the
bustnessmen In the area. He stat~d they found that the business
very determirted agalnst thls project and It is robsbl people in the erea are
decisians the r,,~n,miss~o~ has had to nwke; that the thamberiol` Commerce'Board~aft0lrectors
had occasion to hear thls proJect and are asking for a detay kno~ving~ of cnurse~ the
solutlon still may not be found~ but~ hopefully~ they can
-+ho can make some decistons~ explalning when theY ~-iet wlth~thetstaff9of OCTD~ett~washvery
obvteus that they c~u1d not make a dectsfon and had to go back to srxn~one else snd the
sar-e thtng was true wlCh the Ctty staff. He emphasiz~d aqain r.hose h~giness people in the
area are very determined and tt f~ a sticky situatlon ~ b~et wanted to ask (f this can be
extanded 60 deys~ tf necessa ry, to work as a Chamher of Commerce ouiling ti~e OCTD~ City of
A~ah~tm Planning and Trafflc Departments and the bustness people in the area together to
try ta bring back a little more cattprehensiva program.
A. J. McDonald~ representing Fluidmasters Corporation
approximately 180 signatures from a . P~esented pettttons with
pproximately 14 industries. He stated they~ (n
partlcula~ at Fluldmaster~ have spent a great deal of money on land and have engineering
plans and architectural plans for the future expanston of the business into a three-shift
operatlon. Dependtng on the dectslon here today, he asked what wtll happe~ to them wh~n
they conx, befor4 the Commission for approval of axpanslon pians~ and wondered if they wi11
be told the area (s too impacted for thelr addttlonal trucNs and mobile unlts. He felt if
this termtnal Is approved~ the Commission will hav~ to co~sider thes~ thtngs for the futu~e
of the Ctty and it ts a most paramc~unt point because this cas~ w111 be brought up as an
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ex~mple. Any action a9alnst th~ lndustrles In the sree today would be tantamount to s
limitatlon put on thsm now that th~y cannot have a three-shtft operation in their lndustry
in tha future.
R~y Ast~ Avlonic St~uctures~ stated they ~ecelved the itaff report from the tity ot
Anahelm In todey~s mal) at 12:30 p.m. for teday's meetinq, so ve~y obvtously have not had
a~Y time to study it. He added as far back as 1469~ the City of Anahefm was going to put
in "no parking" along Stete College Boulavard frontinq Avlonic Structuras to provtde
access to the weste~~Y bound R-vcrside Frteway on-ra~np to qet the trafftc west on the
Rlvorslde F~eeway (91)~ but ~ft~r their study on J~.nuery 28~ he received a letter fran the
Traffic Engineer that they had decided there was an error In the ftqu~es end that It w~ould
do no qood to put the "no parking" stgns up becr~use they already had a hottle~eck
condttlon onto tha on-~emp and getting more t~affic up te that polnt would certalnly
defeat their purpose.
Nr. Ast steted the property next door was denled a permit f~r ~ body and palnt shop by the
Ctty because of the impact a~d notae. but nav the OCT"~ plans ta put in 15 beys~ a huge
paint and body shop factlity and sti11 say it will have an instgnificant tmpect. He added
they have found er~ars tn the OCTD's impact r~port and felt they have snent a lot of time
and money end certalnly feel they ar~ ha~ving somethtn~ crammed down their necks which they
eouid not ilve with.
Ira Newman~ owner of theservice statlon on the corner of St~t~ Coll~ge and Via Burton
stated he hsd to Justify the use for additionai service hays for hts fariltty in front of
this C~mmission~ and at that tirt~e said he would probahly have R to 10 cars per day end the
request was granted with the provision theZ if there ts an acctdent at that tntr.rsectlon,
one of drivewsys would have to be c~osed. He added thl' OCTD facility Is obviously a lot
more tntense than what he wanted and presented a petition.
BI11 Scgyzbu ry~ MA1, Real Estale Analyses of Newpo~t Beach, 37p0 Csmpus Drive~ Newport
8each~ Callf ornia 92660~ stated his firm was asked to comment on whether or not there ts s
posslblllty that these new faclilties will have any negattve tmp~ct on land value. He
stated there were three appraisal repcrts done for the bistrlct And he reviewed those
reports and the site and tn hi~ oplnton the proposed pro,ject would not hsve a neqative
effect ~n land value.
John Howe~ P~ofessional Engineer~ Soils Intarnational, Cansuiting Geotechnical Engineers~
stated they v+ere employed by RA1ph ~-ilen and Partners during the preltmtnsry design to
prepare a foundation investigation to detarr~'ne sub-soil conditions and make
recanme~dations for the support and fou~datlons of the structurfs. Durtn~ the course of
thls tnvesttgatton~ nine borings were made (n the propos~d buildi~g areas; and Lhey were
informed there was a possiblllty of fili extsttng in thts area so they were attuned to
this condition, and chey e~icountered na debris o~ trash In the bortngs which were from 15
to 40 feet in depth. In fact, the area was practtcaliy ell natural clean send and their
concluslon was that the site was adequate for the support of the structures and wauld not
requlre any excessive faundation costs. He stated they dld exsmine some maps prepared by
the U. S. Geol~gical ~u~vey~ surveyed tn 1932 end updated In 1q49, whlch generally showa
evidence of any depressions or conditlons ~uch as this a~d the:re was ~othing evident in
these documents. Me stated he do~s have the docurnents avallable for the Cammission's
revlew.
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Mr. M~ck r~isentPd a dispiay propa~ed by theirataPfreleting to the treffic to visually
show !he exlsting traf'fic~ their sutomobile contributlon and the bus cont~tbution. He
stated •gain~ all buses wil) enter th• site f~an Stste College and only those buses which
muat proceed ho~th on State College will use Vla 9urton. He noted thelr contributlo~ to
the pesk perlods ta nanin~l.
Mr. M~ck felt thatr anvironmental ~nalysis has shavn that their pro)ect wlll not have a
negatlve imoact on the apa~tmGnt compi~x nor any of the prope~ty owners wtthin th~t aree.
Mr. M~ck stated~ In sw~mary~ a continuance is not acceptable as far +~s the Transit
0lstrict ts concnrnad and certalnly not a 60•day co~tinuenc~ ~nd the maximum continuance
tfine that thay would be wtliing to accept would be maybe two weeks snd stated agsin they
are talking ahout S~O~OOQ per month in escai+~tion costs.
He felt most of the obJections by the property aamers are really not substentl~ted by
fect end he has attempted to present facts t~ suppart thelr project. Ne stated this is
a vttally needed proJect If addittonal transpartatlon will be provid~d in Orenge County.
He atated they have do~e extensivr_ investtgations in canlna up with thts site and have
co~ptled with s11 the lagal requlrernents as far as nottftcatlen In purchasinc the property
snd getting to this polnt. There hes be~n sever~l years effort in qettinq the proJect
togetlie~. He staLed relocating the project~ as tl~e oppositton has r~comrt~ended~ is not s
vi~ble, solutla~. He prc~posed that the proJect he approved as submitted.
THE PUBLlC HEARING WAS CL05E~.
Chetrwaman Barnes asked the Soils Engin~er where the fill Is located on the property and
where the borings we~e taken.
Mr. Howa showed the plan to the CcNm~lssion wfiich tnditated the toc,tions of the borings
Nith ~eference to the bullding locattons. and Cor-~nissionsr Nerbst pointed out t~e generAl
locatian of tNe dump sitc.
Commissianer Hcrbst felt it should be dete~mined for su~e where the dump sfte was locat=d,
nottng that construct!en over dump sites can c~eate problems wlth methanE gas~ etc. and it
i~: dangerous. Ne potnted out where the buses will be stored was prevlously a du~np site
and the butldtngs are not lecated ln the area of the dump site.
Mr. HoNe ciaritied thetr firm was told there was a possibtllty of ftll on the property but
we~e not avvare thst there w~s a dura slte. He stated the USGS file which generally gives
I~dlcation of the contours did nat inditete any depressed areas.
Conmissioner Bushore ssked if Mr. Howe considered nlne borings a reasonable number for the
number of bulidings~ besed on the fact thet they dtd not know there was s d wnp site tn the
~rea.
Mr. Howe felt the nu~be~ Is ressonabie snd added during the course ot the arork tf fill or
anything questionable is found~ they would make additfon~at borings and he felt~ in his
oplnion~ they have adquately covered the aress of the buiTdfngs.
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Commisstoner Bushoro polnted out there have been e lot of probtems In the County with
former dump sites. ~ot only mobile home parks~ but the West Orange County Municipa) Court
Buliding which has had pr~blans~ and there sr~ sane structural p~oblems wtth the County
Administratton Office, so the Planning Commlasion Is very concernRd and doesn't w~nt
something llk~s that to happan sgeln wlth tax dollars. He asked, based on the fsct th~t tt
Is not knovm how big the dump site w~s~ lf~ in Mr. Howe's p~ofesslonal opinlen~ he fett
it would be wise to take a secund look.
Mr. Howe statnd if It is t~ue thls eree is going to be paved fo~ bus storsge. snd there is
a poasibility of subsidence~ it prc-b~biy ahould be checked.
Comrnissloner Bushore felt tt is very tmportrnt to dcte~mtne haw large the dump site was
becouae there (s a passtbility tt might extend back to where the first bulidinq wfll be
lxated or even further and with only one bortng closest to the westerly partion of wh~t
Is betieved to he the dump site~ there Is a posstbtllty som~thing could have been mtssed
with only nine borings.
Mr. Nowe stated Chey were awsre of the fact th~t there w~: a posslbility of fill and there
was no informstion avatiable regarding a dump sit~. He stilt felt the n~anber of borinqs
ts adequatr for the aree involved.
Commissianer 8ushore asked ahy the OCTO dfd nat have a publtc heerinq on thls proposed
stte end maka the proporty owners aware of the propossl prtor to this ~pplicatton before
the Planntng Commission. Ne fe+lt it ~rould have been wise to meet wlth the neiqhbors to
work out some of these prat+lems.
Mr. Meck explalned a public hearing rras held regarding the gr~nt oppllcatia~ and tt
cove~ed the site speciflc snd ~ras et the exact site thst is under discusslo~ today. He
continued~ lt is difficult to anticipate oppositian ~nd they did canply with whst they
felt was the intent of the law ~~qa~ding tf~eir leqal notices.
Commissioner Bushore asked if no more meetinqs wer~ held with the netahbors because the
Dtstrict decided they hed reached a~ impasse and because of spiralinq inflatlon casts of
the p~eject.
Mr. Mack ststed they totaiiy reached an impass~ because optlons ~9r~eAble to the ~roperty
owners Involved maJer costs and unce~taTntles to the Distrfct project. One ~~pt~on was
extendtng 8axter Street to Arsngeti~-orpe, which ts in the City of Fuilerton ~ind :•ould c~~st
tn the neighborhood of S600~OQ4 Nithout taktng into conslderation any time delays in
reixatl~g tenents or property awners. Extendi~~ Vis Burton westward would cost severa)
rallllon dollars and delaying the proJect will cc . S90,000 per nwnth.
Commisaioner BushAre asked tf the District has any other sites :,vatlable which they hsve
acquirad or fiave acceas to through arroth~r governmental agency and esk~ed haw tl+is stte was
det~srmined to be the one fo~ all of north Orsnge Cour-ty. He pointGd out there is s
tremendous tndustrisl area tn northea~t Anahelm which ts close to the rt~eeway end has
wide~ rosds~ bett~er acc~ess snd is tn a newer impro~ved part of the C1ty wtth much more
maneuversbiltty for buses and much more accesaability with the design of the streets,
atc.. and eskad v+hy that area wasn't co~sidered.
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Mr, Msck replied the District ha s no othe~ sites; that tl~is stta was chosen n+ulnly becau~e
of aite avallabilty and •iso tha cost far lands and that ell this property Is vac~nt a~d
it is dtfftcult to fl~d v~cant p rope ~ty which ts zoned tor thelr Intended uaage.
Commissione~ ~ushore stated the OCTO hes the power of eminent daneln which they h~d used
to acqul~e subJect propsrty and asked why vrcant land w~s not chosen further out where It
would have laa: impsct. He pol~ ted out this la an older !ndustrial er~a and the Ctty has
lesrne~ from past mistakes in desig~ing the nower Industrl~+1 ereas.
Mr. M~ck stated the site inves tiqetion wes dcx~e by District staff using Coldwell Banke~
and Pen~a•Paciftc~ broke~s~ to g ather Inforn~tlan regerding site avallabiltY within the
area they were constdertng. T he Distrtct does have to provid~ transpo~tatlon over the
a~tire County and haa a facllity I~ the central part of kh~ County (Carden Grove) and one
1~ the southern portlon (Irvtne) and it (s togica) ta have o~ne in the northerr aortlon of
the Caunty. f~eewsy accessahiiity is a meJor criteria to elt+ninate congestlon and reduce
the amount of time It would ta ke for s drive r to go to the b~.~qinninq polnt of the rnute.
Commtsstoner Bushore uaked if t he Diatrict had only anelysecl those sltes offered by the
brokers or if an expert wss hi~ ed to loc-k ~t the entire ar~~.
Mr. M~ck stated they did not p r evide a contra~ct alth a"professlonAl service"; that theY
a~aly~ed eleven sltes and thelr analysis was submitted to the federa) government and thelr
selectton was accepted as the best property site fran their ve~ntage point touking at the
operatlonat cha racteristics and the ~riteria used in site sele~tion.
Commissioner Bushore stated the petitloner keeps referring ta the S9~~00~ a month
tnflstit~n cost of delaya and s uggestad the cost to the taxpayen•s could be rtwch hlghe~ than
t~i If the facility is built in the aronq locatlon. He referrnd to the costs Lo the Ctty
to make the necessa ry improvemer+ts and thz cost to the taxpsyers if thls Is a bad fi11
stte and develops problcxns In the futu~e wttfi heavy buses qoing~ aver tt.
M~. Mack stated no structu~es a re p~opased over the land fill area and noted they took the
appropriste borings necessa ry fo~ the destgn of the structu~es.
Chalrwon+an Barnes pointed out the exact location of the land itlt is nat known.
Commlsafoner 8ushore stated it was a dump site and there wilt br. heavy ~uses driving over
it and psrked on tt and on s hot day~ no rt+stte~ hor- thtck the asphalt ls, the buses tires
will mske groves In it. He v+~s concerned about thr: sotl beneath being unstable and tl~e
high cost af e,xcsvation, snd since thia pro]ect Involves thousands of taxpaye~'s dollars.
felt the Olstrict should be abie to say for sure tt wil) have ne- effect.
Mr. Mack felt durtng con~truction would be the only time anyone would knaw far aure over
every square inch of the site whethar ar not there would be ~ny deleterlous material that
has to be re~aoved. He atat~d tn thelr professianal optnlon~ a~ufficient number of
borfngs a~d test ssenptes on t he site have been done and they have a very high degree of
co~fidence !n thely design.
Commissi~e~ 8ushore asked if the~e would be a~y denger to public employees wa~kir.~ ~~ :.`.:.
site from n~thane gases, poi~ tinq out no tests have been conducCed relottng ta that, and
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M~. Mack repiled f rom thQ snalysis they have ! aken~ ther~ is no dhnger of ~nethsne qas to
•nyone.
Chalrv+Annn B~rnes ~efe~red to dump sites which have b~en paved ever and the pevement ts
not level and straight and there le methane g a s leaking out~ and she felt this Issue
should be addrea~ed. She steted the Planninq Cammtsslon is supposed to pretect el) the
City and rttizens. She indicated she hed nat Made a deciston on this ~eq~sest as yet~ but
tt appaars to her that this proloct was in a long lspse perlod for yee~s and now suddenly
there (s a big push to get tt approved~ and ~he f~lt a11 thesP issuas should have been
resolved e~d studtes should have been do~e.
CommlsslQner Herbst stated the Commisslon has revlewed proposals in the past for
dovelopment on the front portion of thls properCy~ but after the prospect ive purchasnr has
made borings~ they h~ve turned down the prope~ty hecause of what has to b~ done beforn It
is developable. As a texpayer~ he would not want to see the Dlstrict pa~ ove~ s~thing
that msy have to be taken out later~ and slso there may be methene gds ex isting. He
referred to the pe t i t toner' a cc~++~nents thet they knew there was a poss i b 1 1 i ty ot f I 1 1~ and
potnted out the si te is f111ad wt th trdsh and g~+rbage. Ne s~iqqested bari ngs be made to
determlr~e what has to be d~ne to he abie to park the buses on the sitc.
Commissio~er Herbst felt this would proAably be a good use for the lend~ buL certain
things will have to he done to make it usahle. He refe~red tc- tho S600~Q!~D cost to axtend
Baxter St~eet th~ough to Orangethorpe And po i ~ted out tht s use w) i l b~ ttiere 5~ to 1~~
years and looking not only at the p~otectlon to th~ fourteen Industrtal is ts in the area
who ere Anshelm taxpayers, but Sb00~000 ~o put +~ street throu9h would be a drr~stic benefit
t~ the Dlstrict because they woutd have access to the slte frc~m Uranqethorpe whtch is not
as heavtly traveled as State Coll~ge ~nd eti+n9nates the nroblem on Aaxte r Street and Via
8urton and St++te Col i ege.
He felt unless the signal st Via Burton is t~wproved. the b~ses will sp~end e lot of tlme
~ait-ng end the Qistrict wi 11 lose control of the rautes unless pl~nty of wa-ting etme is
aliowed. The ext~n~inn of Baxter would prov ide circulatlon t~ make this a very visble
proJect~ noting he felt rlght naw it Is ~ very minimal proJect baceuse of the ctrculation
and spreading the S600~000 ov~r th= perlod of time they wt 11 be using th~ proPerty, the
cost Is not that great. He fe) t 1 f this pro ject inakes I t rouqh for the bus inesses
existing~ theY wi11 nwve out.
Commlssioner Ha~bst felt en envircMmental irnpact report s~ould have beert made on thls site
because the use wi 11 have a direct environrncntwl impact an the whole are.~ and unless the
Dist~lct comea up with something to m,eke the proJect circulation vlable, he cannot vote
f or the Neqat ( ve Dec i arat i on and i f I t i s not approved, the ~roJect can go no further. Ne
was alse concerned about maxlmum use of the s i te.
Mr. Mack stated 6$0 trtps Is the proposed a~-xlmum number that wauld be ge!nerstad without
expanding and any expansion wouid i-~ve to b~ approved by the Ptanninq Ganmission. He
explalned before pavement a~+ould be placed or- the site, the entlre sub-grade ~uld be
canpacted •~ at 1e~st ~0$ and the upper g~ade would be compacted to ~t least 95~ and any
probles~s a~uuld be rdaedled and then tl~ere r+ould be na pave~+ent warping.
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Mr. Mack dxplained the 5600.000 figure us4d for the extension ~f Baxter Street to
Orangethorpe wss a conse~vetive a:timate if It wauld ~ave n~ tmpact o~ ctelay the proJect
and It would take a long tin+e to purchase the p~eperty~ nottng it teok severa) years to
acqutre thls property.
Commlsston~r Bushore asked if the ~istrict was aware~ there was ftii on the site p~lor to
acqutsitlon end i~~. Mack answer~d they knew that the~~ w~s ffil in the area and they do
not know how big the a~ea ts or deep It Is without dotng hortngs.
Commissloner Bushore did not think spendtnq taxpaye~'s money can be Justifled wtthout
doing the proper borinqs first.
Mr. Mack stated the prevlous soils report taken ln the area~ althouqh it dtd not cover the
entire 10-acre site. shor~ed a portton of lsnd ttl) no greet~!r th~n five feet in depth
which wes ce~talnly nothtng that could not be overcome. Ne added withln the current
desiqn phase approprlate bortngs hsve been taken that wtll complement that Aesign~ but
telt spending the money to slnk a 4~sfoot deep horing c~uld he viewed as a waste of
taxpayer'a maney.
Commissioner Tolar did not agree wtth the other Carmissioners. He stated the Planning
Commission'a Job is t~ determine the highest and beat use of the land and if thls site l~
a vlable piece of prop~erty to be usad by the O~enge Ccwnty Tr~nsit District es a bus
terminal~ he dld not feel the Commisslon has the kn~~ledqe or abillty to drtRrmine it thts
witl be a safe site because of the landitll. Ne ststed conditions can be tmposed to
protect the health and safety of the cltixens; thet borings were done where the buildinqs
wll) be located and there wlil be plentY of oppartunity to check the bslance ot the
pArking lot. He felt (t would be up to the Engtneertng Depertment to determine if It ts
safe and if there Is methane gas and it ls not tha Planning Ca-misston's responsibiitty.
He ststed he has sympathy for the existtnq businesses~ but this is a 1Q•acre parcel that
if developed with another industrlal use. the erea could b~ tn~pected a great deai more
than alth this particular uae.
He referred to the cammonts relating to costs to taxpayers, seles taxas from the existing
businesaes~ etc. and potnted out a maJor p~oblem in Anahelm and O~ange County sffecting
(ndustry and houstng (: the lack of t~snsportatlo~ to bring employees to and from work.
He also pninted out the lack of msss transportatlon systdns creatas more autc~nobiles ~nd
mo~e pollutio~. He dld r,ot feel the Ca~nission has seen flt in all these years to ha~lp
develvp s trensportatlon system. Ne suggested a translt site (s much like a church in
that everybody wants the church, but ~ot in his back yard. Ne stated thls County needs
thts ~ssillty and the C~nmissio~ rseeds to dete nnine If thls is the prope~ places, make
reco~miendation~ to protect surrou~ding people~ thRn proceed wtth the pro.iect so it doesn~t
cost any taxpeyer S90,000 a month.
Responding to Chairwoma~ Bernes~ Mr. Fleming referred ta the Trensit District's apprsisa)
opi~ton that thla pro,ject wtll not negetively affeci p~operty values; however~ fi~ thought
the best tndic~tion of what is going to hsppen is past expertence ~nd axplalneA Mortgsge
Systdns recently had e property tor aate in escraw which t~ll through whe~ th~ buyer found
out about this proposed fscilltY. Mr. Fleming telt p~operty vaiues Nt11 ~ negetively
affected.
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Responding to Chairwonw n sarnes, Mr. Ftertiing s~tated he belleved T~1-St~r Pl~sttcs~
Hickory Farms and the service statian have Al1 experlenced some subsldence preblams.
Mr. Ft~mtng stated at one of the meetings, s rep~esenCatlve of the District admlttad that
the eleven sitea discussed were elther hopelessly out of date or were nKVer seriously
con~idered anyway. He ~ef4rr~d to the number of proJected deily trips and treffic
pattern3 p~oposed and dld not feel onGe the f~+cility is fn ~ny restrictlons can be
enforced end d~ivers will enter any+~-ay they can and the site wi11 be s beehive af
activity. He pot~ted out the area 13 zoned for light i~dust~lei and urged the Commis~ton
to teave tt that wey and he did not con~ider a transit facillty as tight industrlal uae.
Commtssione~ King asked how the oppositlon would feel ahout Baxte~ St~eet being extended
thraugh to Orangethorpe and Vta 6urton extended west to Acacia.
Mr. Fleming thouqht hiR clients rwuld fael much better from a convenlance standpoint.
Thetr main interest ts In keeping pro]ect relsted trafflc aff that overburdened stt'eet
and tf Bsxter Street is extended north to Orangeth~rpe~ there Is no guarantee that that ls
what wc~uld happen~ but if the Transit Rtstrict scqulres e strlp of lend fo~ its awn use
no~th to Orangethorpe~ that could gu~rentee that resuit. If~ et the same ttme~ Vis Burton
was extended thrcw gh to Acacla~ tt would solve the trafftc circul~tion p~oblem~ and tMe
District would hsve Its owm m~ans of ingrea~ and eqress and thera Mauld be no burden on
State College 8hulevard~ but the prohiem rematns that this 1~ d ilc~ht industr~~) a~ea and
a bus fecillty ~5 rKl~llght industrtal use.
Comn+l~sioner Tolar did not think buslnesses arR required to spend that kind of money to
put in their owm st~eet.
M~. Fleening felt Plenntng Commtssions heve the powe~ to dictat~ what they feel Is
appi•opriate in te~ms of p~oviding Ingress and egress to snd fran an industriai park when
it (s developed.
Commissloner Talar stated usually puhlic streets sre developed ~~ dedicsted lands. He did
not thtnk thG City of Anahelm wcuid requtre a developer, if this wer- to be Just another
industrial user~ to develop thelr own ing~ess and egress. -~e stated the area v+ouid be
impscted wherher it is developed with an industrial park~ a t~us transit facility or
any oiher type use.
Mr. Fleminq suggested wh+~tever uss is developed whether it be a aoftb+ell dlamond~ truck
yard, bus facility o~ an industrial park. It wili not be a fe~+sible proJect unless the
trefftc problems tlre ~olved and the anly waY ta do that ~s to get the trafftc out som~
othQr wsy and they have presented tha best stternetives they could come up with.
Commissloner Nerbst refe~red to a msp representin~ the reatlgnment af Vta BurLon which was
presented and asked Pau) Stnger haw tt would affect that inkera~ection tf it could be done.
Mr. Singer cjarified that he had not presented the r~u+p being discussad. He stated tfie
recomannd~tlon fo~ tha realignme~t of Vla eu~ton vras done to fecflitate the tnstsllatlon
of another tral`ftc signal at the northarly prope~ty 1lne of subject property~ potntfng out
ilis Burton cupre~tly haa tao traffic signats and to put snoth~r signal to per~it both
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~Ight and left turns would preclude ~ny trsffic mevement on State Cc~11~gR . If the
intersactlon la aligned. it would sub~tantlally reduce~ the ttme wasted~ !ut would not
solve the total prohlen+~ hut would ce~tainly aid tovr~rds moven-ent an State Colleqe and
cauld fsctlit~te all bus tr~ffic in ~nd out of the f~cillty ~lenq the north•~rly access
potnt.
Mr. Singe~ steted he preper•ed a report for the Cammtsslon's Infor~mattan ~ec~arding the
various traffic Impacts thr~t could rasult to he campared to an Industrlal park use or to
this pa~ttculer use as prr~posed by OCTp; howevar, he Is makinq rro recc~ne~ndatlon f~r or
egainst the facillty. A iightly p~pulated tndustrial p~rk wiil produce 10 trip ends per
thousand squere feet and a more~ I~t~nsely uxn~nerclal type park will produce up t~ 3A trip
ands pe~ 1000 square feet and the flgures refiect an averege of thP two and those
percentages ere tncluded tn hls report. To aht~in hetter circulatlon ~nd elimin~te the
cul-de-sac condition of Vla Burton at this Ic~cetton would be adv~ntAqeous to the presenti
industrlal users. with or without the OCTD f~ctltty; however~ the pc~rtlan pro]ected to be
on 8axter St~eet is rx~rtherly of the city timits lyl~g In Fullerton and there Is no way to
expreas the feelinqs ~f the City of Fullerton. Overatl, the bus fac111ty, as proposed~
'F~om a traffic potnt of view only~ appears ta have fewer t~ip ends during the peak hours
than an industri+ei ps~k would.
Netl Shoepe stated he had to pravld~ access to his sit~ ~nd hed to put in the st~eet.
sewer~ wat~r~ et~. befo~e he consiructed ~ huilding, and asked why OCTD should not be
r~quired tn do the same thtng. He statad he had to provtde access fo~ the netqhbors and
that hn duq down five feet and compacted the orea a~nd tl~ere was no fill on his site.
Dtck Crum, Avionic Structures, stated their buildtng o•~ the corner of State College and
Via Burt~n was Just recently campleted and they had tr stop hefore putting in the
drtveways to take naw core ~orings and put more fill ln the drivewby. In 1q78 the
Commisstan deniod this samc~ property eccasY on State :olleqe. or to change their drlwewaY
location to Via Bu~Con. Ht stated they worked hard t.a n~ ke scm~ p~opos~+ls to OCTD but
they have not aareed and spent a lot ef moe~ey to te'~1 the opt~sitlon how tt could be done
and he thought OCTD shoulst spend the se~~e effort trt trying to solve the traffic
circuiatlon prohlem.
Mr. Nawma~ Indic~ted he has Just had a so{ls repa~~•t done on the corner of Via~ 6urton end
State College and had given a copy of that report ta the OCTD representative. That rGport
lndtcated up to 15 fect of ftll a~d the minlmum I,oles drill~ci were 4*;. 5 feet for a
buildinq that will be, 16 feet high far smsl) carx to drive over ahich would not be a lot
of we~tght, He indicated he doesn't have his permit~ f~om the Clty yet so doesn't knew
what the extra foating~: wtit have to be~ but his erchitect thouqht they would be o~e foot
tapered to na less than six inches. Ne felt t~~ere is deflniteiy a preblem tn t~+e srae and
obviousiy OC'fD wili tre facad with the same problem.
Mr. Newms~~ was concerned about a suggestton far cAncrete dividers at that co~ne~ betause
hta custorners would not be able to get out~ axcept to go south.
C~nissioner He~bst askad if there is anything in the City's t`iles regarding the lecation
and dopth af the dump SILE~ noLing there h~ve beesn othar bulldings p~oposed on that
property on Stat~n College and there was conccrn at that time re~s~ding excavation. He
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EIR NEdATIV~ DECLARAt10N~ WAIVER OF CODE ~EQUIREMENT ANQ
CONOITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 2082 (CONTINUEO)
felt the~e may be areas that wtll have to be excavated ly or 2cl feet in order to be
proper)~~ compacted. He did net thl~k OCTD has glven the sit~ adequat~ study.
Jack Judd~ Clvil Enginaering Assoclata~ was not aware ot any t~farmation the City haa~ and
if thern were bullding plana filed with the Butlding ~epartment~ there may h~ve been solls
reporta filed.
Cheirwom~n Barnes felt there -~re sttll meJor problemY. particularly the access ~nd alrtwat
sll the buRtness people In tha ares a~e opposed bec~+use ef krafftc nroblem~. She potnted
out the Ctty Trafflc Enginee~• reparts there would probably he le~s traffic on Via Burton
wtth this use than with anotncr tndustrial ~developm+ent. Shc wns also cancerned about the
median tslands effecting the se~vice staLton.
Mr. Sinqer stated due to the offset intersectlon~ the tr~fflc congestlon on State Coll~ge
at thls locatlo~ ts quite suhstantlal and the median island pro~sed will II-nit left turn
lnq~~ss for northbound State Colleg~ only and wouYd not pe~mlt egress from the site
northbound o~ Stete College; therefore~ the huaes cominq tn fran the no~th and south could
~nter the property but anly buses ~xitinq to the south would use t-+is exit and northbound
would use V(a Burton ~rreet. According to calculatlons, this eltminates about 80$ of the
bus trafftc from VIa ~wton. Ne stdted the onty way to acconmodate bath ingress and
egress with left r+~~ ~t t~e northern edge of the facility would be by sf~nal{zatton rnd
as it stAnds now~ -n~~ftc signa~ would not be telereble ~t that locatton with the offset
that exists at Yti+~~ ~~ft~~. He stated he would Iike to see the problem solved becsuse it
ha~ been a prohl~* ~r ss k~g time; that recently the signa) was rebullt to the most
modern un ( t ava~S~Earar•~~ a~! ~o add i t l ona l masta ~ms Nere adcled to mu t t i p l y the nun-ber of
indtcatlons, -wt` ~~ ~c'~'3~~ does n~t work satlsfactorily. The only way ta fix It Is to
~eallgn Via 8r~t~= °~~ ~rrFncide. He had serlous rese~vatlons th~t it would be possible
ut i t i z i ng the- ~-~ ~x~^~ vsGant lot because I t r=+dy not be l arge enough to prov i ~1e adequate
tadii. He paf~. st o~at on the aerlal phatograph~ rMttng it would require two rathe~
sharp "5" car~._ ~ nointed out che east side of Via Burton is also an industrial
district wi'th ~c~. rraffic. Ne stAted this would be bette~ f~r State Cailege~ but the
evaluation he* ~a ~ made as [o Nhether it would be better for the eastcrn portion of Via
8u~ton with t+~ ~+uMSt~talists having to execute two ~~J4 turns. On the other hand, they
Would gain tl~ s~~a~ce the dr.lays on VIa 8urton at the present time are substantia) and may
be consid~r_-d a :~e-off.
Conmissianer ~+wre fclt se~ipus problems have boen b~ought out and he has not made up
hfs mind ab~t ~e use yet~ but felt~ as a taxvayer, a delay Is necessary even thaugh he
dtd not IF~Re t~ ~e t~~payer's dollars wasted. He wantcd a:i0-day continuance (n order
~or answers tc~ '~ pro~ ided.
AL?'ION: Cc~+nissloner Bushore offered a motion that the n~tter be contlnued fo~ 30 days.
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Co~tssla~e~ Herbst felt the pro)ect can be made viahle and reatOxed the DtsCrict r+ants to
gsc ~tarted, trut did not think it should be done st the cxpense af other peopie. He wanted
OCTD to see what can ba done because there are som~ things that can be done even thougt~
ft w11~1 cost money. He felt one of the hest saluttons would be extendin4 Baxtor Street
out tA Ora~gethorpe and the possibtlity ot reallgni~g the corners at Vla Burton which will
increase thelr bu~ tinie tremendously. Ne felt now is th~ time to consider atl these
things and did not feel the Otstrict has gtver+ It adequete censiderstion.
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EIR NEGAtIVE DECLARATION~ WAIVER OF COQ~ aEQl11REMENT AND
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 2082 (CONTiNUED)
Con~nisslone~ Nerbst also felt additlonal barings shoul~i be done to det~ nnine how n-uch fill
w111 have ta be Laken out because he rememhers usi~g thaC d unp site and knowa there is
fili.
Cammisatone~ Bushore asked if 30 daya wouid allow ad~quate ttme snd Mr. Mack replted the
alternattves have be~n discussed at levels all the way throuc~h the Dtstrict. One vtabie
alternetlve they did come up with was to ellminr~te aii bus trafftc on Vta Burton which
entails a slgnal at their encrsnce polnt on State College~ and wtth the existinq signsls~
it ts not s viable solutton. He fett the propert~r ownerg want to eltminate ell tralfic
on Vis 9urton and if snother development gees in he was sure that would bt the eame
request to not allvw anY treffic on Vta ~urton and he felt that ts totally unreasont~ble.
CcHnmissloner He~hst stated a11 trsfflc csnnot ettminsted but an alternate route will help
thb situation drasticailY looking at the long rang~ picture. He felt sccessibility to
Orangethor~e is availeble now and msy not be in the future.
Mr. Nack ~eplted in all thetr conteGt with ttie Ctty of Futlerton~there are no plans to
extend Baxter Street; that one property owner (the C~rnntlon Canp~ny) under agrean~nt with
tha City of Fulle~ton~ wtll have to Improve their portlon of Baxter Street wh~n the OC1'0
(mproves thelr portton. He explatnrd Carnation has been notifted by the City of Fullerton
that if this project ts approved~ they will be rc-.quired under thetr August 197a agreament
to pay for half the cost of Baxter Street (mprovements which rras a conditio~ of their
approval for development of their stt~. Ne stated if they could lnstall e slgna) for all
thelr buaes to exit and enter on State Coltege. the need for Baxter Street could be
elimindted, but they would still need Via Burton to seq~eg~te the autc~rtiobtle and bus
traffic for safety.
Commisstoner Bushore felt they need tu coR+t back with ather alternattves whtch have been
constdered and explr~in them to the Cammisslo~; that the City feels anocher stqnal Is not a
vlable solution; and that they shc~uld show th~t B~xter Street ts not a vl+~ble solutton~
polnting out they have the powe~ of emtnent dcxnsin. but son+e t~casitive or negative reasons
have to be shown as to why this is the hest atternattve which so fe~ hos not been done.
N~ steted the District can ask for an addltl~~ai c~antinuance if 3f1 days is not enough. He
advtsed the opposltlon to cali the CitY Planning Departmsnt to detcrmine If another
continuance has been ~equested befare the August 25th meetTnq.
ACTION: Cons+issianer Bushore's previous mation, secc:nded by Commissioner Herbst~ for a
~o" Lfnuance to August 25, 1.980, was CARRIED (Commissioner Tota~ voting No) for further
information frnm th~ petitlaner.
Cortn~isslone~ Bushore stated the previous 3~•day contTnuance at the previous meettng was
granted to glve OCTD time to present altarnatlve propossls and to meet with the neighbars
and work swr~ething out, but nathing has bee~ worked out and he hoped that would n4t happen
agaln.
RECESS There w+~s a tan minutc r~cess at 3:3a P•~•
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aECONVENE: The meeLing was reconve~ed at 3:40 p.m.
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ITEM N0. 2 PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: aOSAII~ M, METZGER, 1g081
EIR E~IVE DECLARATION Mathew Circle~ Huntlnqton Beech, CA 92646 and R. W.
RECLASSIFICATION N0. 80-81-1 BIANCHARD, tb371 8each Baulevard~ N240~ Huntington
Beach~ CA 92647 end FRED W, MARGANTHALF.R, 1935 Sher-
KIRK EVANS~ SAND DOLIAR CEVELOPMENT, 16311nBeache8oulevardaX240t Huntington 9~ach. CAE92647.
Property described as an irregularly•shaped parcol of land consiscing of approximately 9.7
acres loc~ted south and west of thc southwest corner of l.lnc~ln Avenue and Rio Vtsta St~eet,
having app~oximatc frontages of 470 feet on the south slde of Lincoln Avenue and 425 fe~at
on che west side of Rlo Vista Street. Prope~ty presently classifiad RS-A-43,OQ0(Residential/
Agricultural).
RECLASSIFICATION REQUEST: CL (COMMERCIAL~ LIMI7ED) ZONE.
There w~s one person indicating his Nresence in opposltton to subJect request~ ond althouqh
the steff report to the Pianning Commisslon dat~d July 28, 1980 was not read at the public
hearing, it is referred to and made a part af the minutes.
Randy 8lanchard~ President, Sand Oollar D~velopment, agent~ explained this project was
designed with a prevtous plan submirted in October~ 1978 on the frant 4-acre portion of the
site In mind and they tried to address the complaints volced in connection wlth ihat previous
proJect in thc design, engineering and architecture and did meet with the homeowne~s and
tried to work out the p roblems.
Henry Kuba, 2711 Puritan Place~ stated he is not opposing this pian~ but wanted to clear
up a couple of mattars and explained he and his neighbors are rather leary about the restau-
rant wondering if they would atlow disco dancing; that they were told this will be a"Class A"
rest~urant~ but there are other "Class A" restaurants such as Cattlemen's Wharf and Black
Angus which do have disco dancing. He stated he could noc determine from the plans if a six-
foot high wall is proposed and noted some of the resident•s want the wall to be 7 or 8 feet
high. He was also concerned about the location and hetght of roof signs and asked if the
25 fieet allowed as mentioned in Lhe staff report is measured from che ground to the rooftop,
Dean Sherer,Assistant Planner, explained no sign, either roof-mounted or free-standing,
can be over 25 feet high within 750 feet of any single-family residential property,
measured from the ground.
Mr. Blanchard stated they are willing to add an additio~al one or two feet to the fence if
it is desired to buffer or mitigate any saund from the restaurant or commercial uses.
He stated they have designed the parking spaces at 9 feet and that the pro,ject will b~ a
very expensive looking,prestigious building with a lot of wood and stone. He stated
they are negotiating with a large steak and lobster-type dinner house ~estaurant which
daes not have disco dancing and he did not think the noisa emitting from the restau~ant
would be an impact since the residences are all one story and he felt an extra one or two
feet on khe wall wo~ld soive that problem.
THE PUBI. I C HEA.R i NG WAS CLOSED .
Chairwoman Barnes asked where the restaur~nt doors are located and Mr. Blanchard reviewed
the plans with Mr. Kuba and the Commission potnting out the location of the doors and
where the -vall and tail trees will be located to help mitigate any notse and also the
20-foot wide landscaped buffer zone was discussed. It was noted the restaurant is 150 feet
from the property line and the grade of ad;acent proparties is lower than sub,ject property.
It was noted by Mr. Blanchard that all signs will cenform to Code.
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E1R NEGATIVE OECLARAT~ON b RECLASS FICATI.r ON NO ~ 80-81-1 (canttnued)
ACTION: Commissionar Ktng off~red a mction, seconded by Commtssioner Totar and f40TI0N
~D that the Anahc+im Clty Planning Commission h~s ~aviewed the proposal to reclass{fy
subJect property from RS-A-43~000 (Residentlel/agriculturel) Zone to the CL (Commercial~
Limited) Zone to construct a commercial office complex on an irregularly-shaped parcel of
land consisting of approximetely 9.7 acre~s located south and west of the southwest corner
of Lincoln Avenue ~nd Rio Vista Street~ having approximate frontages of 470 feet on the
south st~e of Llncoln Avenue end 425 foec on the west side of Rio Vista Street; and does
hereby approve the Negative Qeclaration from the rsquirPment to prepare an environmental
impact report on the basls that there wo~~ld be no significant individual or cumulative
adverse environmental impact du~ to the approval of this NegAtive Declaration since the
Anaheim General Plt~n designates the subJect prooerty for general commercial and low dens(ty
r~sidential tand uses commensuraCe with the proposal; that no sensitive environmental
impacts are involved in the proposal; that lhe Initial S:udy submitted by the petltioner
indicates no significant individual or cumulative adverse environmentAl impacts; and that
the Negative Declaration substantiating Che faregoing findings is on file in the City of
Anahaim Planning Department.
Commissioner King offered Resolutlon No. PC80-I1G and moved for its passage and adoptton
that the Anahelm City Planning Ccmmission does hereb~~ grant °etition for Reclassification
No. BO-81-1~ subJect to InterdepArtmental CommittE~e Recommendattons.
On roll call, the foregoing resolution was passed by t~~e following vute:
AYES: COMNISSIONERS; BARNES, BOUAS~ BUSHORE~ FRY~ HERSST, KING AND TOLAR
NOES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
Jack White~ Assistant City Attorney. presented the writter+ right to appeal the
Planning Commissiun's decision withi~ 22 days to the City Council
17EM N0.
EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION
REClAS51FICA710N N0. 0-$1-3
VAR{ANCE N0. 3~_~
TEKf1TIVE MAP OF TRACT N0. 11~
PUBLIC NEARING. OWNEaS; EBRAHIM TA4EB1, ET Al~ 27695
TORIJA~ MISSlON VIEJO~ C~ 92791• Property describ~d
as a rectangularly-shaped parcel of land cansisting
of approximately 1.0 acre~ having a frontage of
approximately i5A feeG on the west side of Webster
Avenue, having a maximum depth of approximately 3Q^
feexfurtheridesc~ibeddas~715XS~Webste~r7Avenue.s~Propertyhpresentlyiclassi~fied9RSAAe43,000.
and
RECLASSIFICA710N REQUCST: RM•3000 (Rasidentiat~ Multiple-Family) ZOFlE.
VAR~M NEMUM~RECREATIONAI/LEMSURE~AREAEA(d)~MINIMUMNlIUMBER~OFbPARKXN6u5PAC~5.COVERPGE,
(c)
TENTATlVE MAP REQUEST: TO CONSTRUCT A 1-LOT, 20-UNIi C4NDOMINIUM SUBDIVISION.
CommissiAner Bushare declared a conflict of interest a3 defined by Anaheim City Planni~g
Commission Resolution No. PC76-157 ado~ting a Canflict of Interest Lode for the Planning
Commission and Government Code Section 3625, et seq., in that he has taiked previously
with thG owners and Camiunfty Housing Dep~-rtmcnt abeut this as an affordable housing
location and pursusnt ta the provisiens nf the above Codes, deciared to the Ch~irwoman
that he wa withdrawing from the hearing i~ cannection with this item and would not take
parh ~n e~~ertof theCPtanning~Commisslong tTHEREUPONnCOMM~ISStONERSBUSHOREiLEFT~THEer
wit Y
CGUNCIL CHAMBER at 3~SS p•H~
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MINUTES~ ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION~ July 28, 1980 Page 421
EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION, RECLASSiFICATION N0. 80-81-3~ VARIANCE N0. 3161 and TENTATIVE
MAP OF TRACT N0. 11178 (co~tinued)
There was no one indicating their presence (n opposition to subject requast ~nd elthough
the staff report to the Planning Commission dated July 28, 1980 was not read at the pubiic
haering~ is referred to and made a part of the minutes.
W. S. Phelps~ 1259 N. Batavia~ Orange, California~ agent~ stated thfs proJoct was oriqinally
proposed with a meJor subterranean garaye structure which become economically infeasibte
because it had to be sprlnklered~ ventilated~ pumped~ etc., so chenges we~e made with a
tucked-under garage and all approvals were received to build a 3C-unit apartment complex.
Ne pointed out Webster Street is predominantly develo~~ed w~th ~partments. Ne explainrd
because of the recent economic cenditions, varlous rr~thods were explore~ ta try and present
a feasible pro}ect and the 30-unit proJect is ready far bullding permits when the zoning
is finalized. In discussing th' project with staff, the P~I-3000 stand~rds were considered
far too strict and they had alsa considered inking out 5 units t.o provlde 25$ affordable
housing, but aft~r pursuing th~t matter with the Housing Department~ it was determined
that was not posstble. He felt this proposal (s a fcas,ible method of providing affordable
housing, n~ting the medium affvrdable housing price in this area is S85~000 which far
exceeds state guidelines~ so when he refPrs to affordable housiny~ h~ means medium
affordable housing for this area on Webster Street. This current dcsign is for 20 units
which is 33~ less than what could be builc and RM-3000 xoning wauld allow 13 units~ and
pointed out each unit wi11 have a two-c~r ~arage, 8 with individuai garayes and all units
will have their own service area. He stated they are asking for 2U untts because it rr~kes
a marketable item. Ne stated he has always feit the kM-3000 ~tandards are too stringent
and felt this is a c~mpromise in between and felt after r•eviewing recent Council actions
that the project is within their range of current philosophy.
Chairwoman Barnes referred to the density bonus and askcd wh~at quarantee the City has
that 34$ of the units will be sold as low cost housing.
Annika Santalahti~ Assistent Oirector fo~ Zoning~ explained the Nousing pepartment is
aniy tnvoived when the project provides 25$ of its units far low cost housing and the
petitioner is saying he is not interested ~n that type program. She stated the state
regutations which allow a 2S$ or more density bonus without showino hardship requires
that certain criteria be met, so in this situatio~, the Cornmission cannot use thase
regulations as a basis for approval of the projact.
Commissianer Tolar did not fe~l t~e 25~ density bonus is a valid di~;cussion since it does
not apply to this particular proJect. but Chairwoman Barnes fr_It it is o valid discussion
and pointed out to thc petitione~ there would be a 34$ density bo~us i~ this aroJect is
approved as proposed and she would like a stiNulation that 34~ of the units wnuld be
sold as lc~w cost housing. She felt the County guideli~e for low cnst housing is
probnb~y S~15,000.
Annika Santalahti stat+.d che range chanyes constantly and pointed out a few months ago
the rangt was t-etween SSp~000 and $70~000, bu: that ~:as before thc intere3t rates
changed so drastically. She s~ated there a~e a lot of calculations tnvolved i~ these
figures.
Chairwoman Barnes did not feel she could Justify yiving that much density bonus without
a commitment from the devc~loper regarding low cost sales, She did not want eo dpny the
prQ)ectbecause this area does need affordable housi~g.
Cortimissioner King did not feel it is within the Planning Commission's jurisdiction to
cc~~t~ol the market place.
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EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION, aECLASSIFICPTION N0. 80-81-3~ VARIANCE N0~ 3161 AND TENTATIVE
MAP OF TMCT N0. 11178_ (continued~ •---
Commissionar HerbsC pointed out the Commission cennat approve a proJect without showing
a hardship, but ~ecently a new l~w was enacted which permits approval of veriances from
the Cade if the devalAper egreses ta provide 25~ af the units for low to moderate income
housing, but that law would nnt spp~Y unless the developer agrees to oll the conditlons.
He stated he cannot see any hardship ory this proQPrty and felt the pro~ect is Just being
overbutlt and the only ather altarnative wc~uld be to modify the Codes and painted out
the condominlum Codn was recently mudtfied from 4000 square feet to 3000 square feet.
Chairwoman Bar~es stated she is in favor of the pro)ect if the petitioner Is wi111n9
to make the stipulatlon to se;l a percentage af the units for low cost hausing.
Annika Santalahti explained state regulatio ~s provide thaL when the developer can provide a
minimum of 25~ ~ov+ cost units or more, the City may grant density bonuses.
Mr. Phelps requestad a continuance in ~order to report back to the Cortmissiun a revlew
~f possibitities and maYbe a reductton in the number of units or perhaps a proposal with
the Hous°~g Department to Rrovide low cost housing. He felt a iwo-week continuance
would bc :.:equate.
ACTION: Cortmissioner Herbst offered a motion~ seconded by Commissioner King and MOTION
CARRIEO that cons(deration ~f the afo~en+entioned item be continued to the regularly-
scheduled meeting of August 11, 1980 at :he request of the petitioner.
COMMISSIONER BUSHORE RETUaNED TO THE MEETING.
ITEM N0. 4 PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: RI05 b R105 CONSTaUC710N
EIR CATEGORICALIY EXEMPT - CLASS 1 COMPANY, 2536 West Lincoln Avenue. Anaheim, CA 92801.
COND TI N L U E RMI N0. 2 91 AGENT: ANH-HONG CHINESE RESTAURANT, 2528 West Lincaln
Avenue~ AnaM.sim~ CA 92801. Petitioner requesCs
pern•1~sion to permit on-sale beer and wine in a~ existing restaurant on propertY described
as a rectangu1arly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 1.12 acres located
at the southwest corner of Lfncoln Avenue and ~ain Street. having a frontage of approxi-
mately 208 feet on the sauth side of Lincoln Avenue and a frontage of 185 feet on the
west side of Gain Street and further described as 2S28 West Lincoln Avenue (Anh-Hong
Chinese kestaurant)• Property presently ciassified CL (COMMEaCIAL~ LIMITED) 20NE.
There was no une indicating their presence in opposition ta subject reque;t ~nd although
the staff report to the ~lanning Commission dated July 28~ 1980 was not read at the pubiic
hearing, it is referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Quan Mna~ petitioner~ was presenC to answer any questions.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS :,LOSED.
It was nated the Planning Director or his authorized representative has determined that
Class 1, as
tht proposed project falls within the definitton of Categorical Exemptions~
dafined i~ Pa~agraph 2 bf the City of Anaheim Environmental Impact Repart Guidelines and
is, therefore~ categorically exempt from the requirement to prepare an EIR.
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EIR CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT-CLASS 1_AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 20~1 {contin w d)
ACTION; Co:~ntssioner King offerad Resoluticr~ No.PCSO-117 and muved for its p~asage and
a~Tcopt~on that the Anahetm City Planning Commf~slan does hereby grant Petitlon for
Conditlonel Use Permlt No. 2Q91, subJect to Interdepartmantal Cortmittee Recommcndetians.
On roll cail the foregoing res~lution was passed by the following vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERSc 9ARNES~ BOUAS, BUSHORE, FRY, HERB5T, KING 6 TOLAR
NOES; COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ABSENTc COMMISSIONERS: NONE
ITEM N0. 5 PUBLIC HEARING. OWNERS: ALLEN AND SARA FAINBARG. ET AL
EIR NEGATIVE DECLARATION 3~75 Airway, Costs Mesa, ~A 92626. AGENT: CHARI.ES J.
C NDIT AL U E M T N0. 2095 UPTON, 11838 Cl~xine, Fountaln Velley~ CA 927Q8.
P~titioner requasts permfssion for a pre-schaol on
property descrlbed as an irregula r1y-shaped parcel of land consistiny of approximately
2.0 acres, having a frontage of approximately 250 feet on the south side uf LA Palma
Ave ~ue, having a maxlmum depth of approximately 31S feet and being located approximately
42S feet west of the centerline of Magnolia Avenue and further descrlbed as 2E+36 West
La Palma Avenue. Property presently classified CL (COMMERCIAL~ LIMITEO) ZONE.
There was no one indlcating their presence in oppositlon to subject ~equest and although
the staff report to the planning Cummission dated July 26, 1980 w9s not read at the public
hearing, it is referred to and madc a part of the minutes.
Charles Upton, agent, was presNnt to answ~r any questfons.
Responding to Comnissioner Fry~ Mr. Upton explafned the State has no: yet approved thls
facility~ but his partner has bcen in this business for eight years and they are famlliar
with the State Codes ~nd are confident the pro}ect will be approveci. He expiained they
propose the facility for 115 children. He a~swered Commissioner Fry's concern and
explained th~e bul lding wi i 1 be s~r{nklered.
Comnissioner Tolar pointed out the State requi remcnts are very string~sr}t and they wi 11
re view the site before approving It.
Corm~issionar Fry was concerned because this buildfng appeared to him to be constructed 100~
of wood ~nd Mr. Upton explained the structure is cement block with wood trim.
Commissioner Tolar felt this would be a good usa And there would be less traffi: than with
the previous use.
Conmissioner Nerbst felt this is ane of the better pre-school locdtions because the~e
is ro~m on site for parking and loading ~and unloading the children.
ACTION: Cortmissioner Talar offered a motion~ seconded by Ca~m+issioner King and MOTION
CARRIED thrt the Anaheim City Pianning Lommission has review~d the propr~sal t.o permit a
p re-school in the CL(Comn-ercial, Limited) tane on an irregularly-shaped parcel of land
consisting of approximately 2.0 acres~ having a frontage of approximately 250 feE, c.~ the
south side of La Palma Avenuc, having a maxim~,m dapth pf approxim~tely 315 feet a~d
being located approximately 425 f~~t west of the centerline of Magnolla Avenue;and does
he ~eby approve the Negative Declaration from the requlrement to prepare an environrnental
i~npact report on the basis that there would be no signlflcent individual or cumulativa
adverse environmental in-pact due to the app~oval of this Ncgacive peclarstion since the
Anahei~ General Plan designates the subject ptaperty for general industrial land uses
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cam»nsurat~ with tha propo~~l; th~t no s~~sltiv~ environmental Impacts ~re involved
In th• proposal; that the Initlal Study tubmitted by th• petitioner Indtcates no stynl-
fle~nt Indivldwi or cumulative, edvc+rse environmentel impacts; and thst the Negst{ve
Dacl~ration sub~tantiettng the fo~egoing fl~dings ls on file in the City af Anaheim
Pl~nnln~ D~partrr~nt.
Commis~to~e~ Tolar affared aesolution No. PCRA-118 and moved for it~ pessage a~d
edoption that the Anah~im City Planning Commisston does hereby grent the Petitlon for
Condttto~al Use Permit No. 2095~ subJect ta Inter~epartmental Committee Recommendatlons.
Anniks Santetahtl~ Assistant Oirector for Zoning~ noted a letter was recetved from the
Buen~ Park Planning plrector conveying thoir conce~n becausa the proJect Is edjacent
to a recently const~ucted condominlum proJect wfiich was constructed In th~ir clty utlilring
Anaheim utilities. Thetr concern wss nolse fram the childre~n piaying,
Mr. Upton explained the pre-schoc~l houra wlll be from 6 a.m, to 6 p.m, and the chlldren
wll) sctually oniy be outside twn hours during that p~riod. from i0 ta 1) a.m. a~d
from 1 to 2 p,m.
On roll call the foregoing resolutlon was pa~sad by the following v~te:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, BOUAS~ BUSHORE, FRY~ NERBST, KING AND TOLAR
NQES: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
A85ENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
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i TEM N0. 6 'UBL I C HEAR I NG . QWNER; MARY LEAL MYROAHL,
E I~C 1~tEG~tlt CA.I~ Y EXEMPT - CLASS 407 South Oh ip Street , Anah~ i m. CA 92805 ,
, Petitionar rsquests WAIYER OF MAXIMUM fENCE
HE I GHT TO RETAIN AN EXI ST ING FENCE ~n propnrty
desc~ibed ~s a rectengularly-shaped parcol of land consisting cf approxirn~tely 5500
sqwra feet, having t~ frontage of Approxlmately 50 feet on the west side of Ohio Screet
end havlnq a nwximum depch of a~proximately 1!0 feet and being loc~ted approxtmately
275 feet nort~h of the centerline of Santa Ana Street and further deacrtbed es 407 South
Ohia Street. Property presentiy class i f led RS-72f-'~ (Resldent iel ~ Single-Famt ly) Zone,
Mary Myrdahl~ owner~ w~s present to answer eny questions and explained she understood
from the contr~~tor who constructed the fence that he would obtain the proper permlts,
Betty Vandiver~ 418 S. Ohio Street, stated her pr~pe~ty Is across the street and
'ndicated she does not heve anything agalnst the potit(oncr, but wants to prorect the
neighborhaod; thAt they bouyht their property eight yaars ago and since then have
purchased two otherhouses in tho area; th~t th(s fence is 51x-feet high with only
42 inchos permitted and she felt it does c~use a visual intrusion within the neighborhoad
and i s not i n keep i ng wt th the nei ghbo~huod . The on I y other fence wh i ch crosses anyone's
p~operty is wrought iron and brick and daes conform to the Code and that property owner
did request a six-foot fence, b~t the request was denled so it is on ~ecord that six-
foot fences are not wanted i n this ne i ghbonc~wd. She stat~sd the nei qhborhood i s wei l
established and most of the people who live there are property owners, so ft is not a
renter's neighborhood, She was concerned that if this fence Is allowed, there will be
other people going ahead and cloing whatr,ver they want and then trying to get approvel
afterward. She requested thac the fence not be al~owed.
Ed Baker, 802 Jade Way, Anahelm, stated thei r property (s immedlately sauth of subJect
property and it is presently rentcd~ but he intends to mov~ back there someday. He
stated he had a fcnce installed ~n their alley and It was necessary to get pcrmits~
h ve the fence inspected end approved by the Ctty~ and_he also had to dedicate two feet
af hls praperty and he felt what Is fair for one is falr far everyone. Ne was sorry the
petitioner got into this sttuat(~n. but thought she dld know that permits were
reQulred a~d felt she probably should have checked a 1(ttle closer.
George Cassford, 415 S. Ohio, Anaheim, twQ residences south af subje~t p~operty~ stat~d
ht had a letter from anothGr nelghbor who could not at.tend thls meeting who is opposed
to the fence. Ne submitted the letter for the file. He are3ented photographs of the
subJett propesrty and petitions slgned by 25 people in the Immediate ar~a. He 5tated
he opposes the fence b~cause it does nut conform to the nelghborhood and t~~at he had
installed a fence and gotten the p~oper permits and had aiso dedicated property.
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EIa CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT-CLASS 3 b NARIANCE N0, 3160 ~cont6nued)
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He feit bad that the petitlone ~ hss suffm~ed this inconvenience~ bu t it Is also an Incon-
ve~lence to him and hls nelghbo~s and ~Iso ~he vlew from h{s residence hes been cut off.
He submitted photogrephs and a petition. He referred to the appliestlan before the Gity
wh i th had f I vc s i gnatures of ne i ghbors whc do not obJect to th i s fence and stated he has
talkad to faur of the netghbo rs stnce the petition was submitted s n d two heve been to City
Nall to withdr~w tl~oir sup~art and explalned the petitlon i~e ls submitting hes two add~lionel
signatures of pcople opposing the req~~est.
THE PUBIIC HEARING WAS CLOSE~.
Mary Myrdahl stated she had also dedlcated property at the alley b~cause I~er f~nce Is iik~
her ne(ghbors,
Responding ta Comml~sioner Bus hare~ the petitioner axplalned she ha d informed the contrsctor
thrt he would heve to get the p ~oper permlts and he had indicated he knew that and she had
gc-ne away on ~ trip thinking he had gotten the permlts. Shr. stated slie had peid ~verything
due for the fen~e and the cont ractor wa5 Gabrlel Paldi i~ Ful larton .
Cnnmis5loner Bushore staced he
~atitioner will havc ta cnmply
or mov i ng 1 t back 25 fee t. He
felt the pPtitloner probably h,
is a Contractor'c Review Boa rd
cnntractor had a Ilcense tn da
Li~ense Department.
pcrsonally cennot support the fence and probobly the
with the Zanln~ Cod~ by elthcr lowe ~ing the fence to 42 In~hes
was sorry he could ~ot support the fence (n its fashlon end
as a recourse against the contr~cto r. He pointed out there
in Ch~ State, Me was also conce~ne d whether or not the
business in Anaheim and asked staff to chrck with the Buslnesa
It was noted the Planning Dircct~r or his authorized represcntative has determined that
the proposed proJect falls wit hin the def4nition of Catego~lcal E xemptions. Class 3~ as
defined in Paragraph 2 of the City of Anahalm Environmental Impect Report Gutdellnes
and i s, therefore, categor i ca 1 1 y exempt from the ~equi rement to prepare an E I R.
ACTtON: Cammtssioner Bushore o ffered aesolution No. °C80-119 and mo ved for its passage and
adoption thet the Anaheim City Planning Conmission does hereby deny Pet(tton for VarlAnce
No. 3160 on the basis that there are no unlque ci rc~imst~nces appl i eable to the property,
fncluding size, shape, topography, locatlon or surroundinns~ which do not applv to other
property under identical zoning ciassificatlan in the vicintty; and that subiect fence
shall be brought into conformance with the 2oning Codo wiihin r~in•_~~ (90) days.
Ccxnmisslone~ Bushare explained he wanted to give Lhe petiti~ner a.,ple tln~ to ~emedy
the situation end comply with the Code and Ms. Myrdehl replied she did n4tic know what she
would have to do, b~~t felt 90 days wcwld be adequat.e.
On roi l cal l the for~going resolution was passed by the fol lovring vote:
AYES: COMMISSIONERS: BAftNES~ BOUAS~ gUSHORE, FRY, NERBST~ KING b TOLAR
N0~5: COMMISSIONERS: NON~
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NON E
Jack Whi te, Ass istant CI ty Attorney, presented the wri tten rlght to appeal the
Planning Cammission's decision within 22 days to the City Gouncil .
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ITEM N0. PUBLIC HEARING. OWNEP: CALIFORNIA DRIVE-IN THEATRES~
~~~~~~VE DECLARATION INC.~ 120 North Robertson Boulevard~ lc~ A~geles~ CA
,~„ U ~ F0.~8 90448. AGENT: BRUCE OGILVIE, 6242 Barbedo~ Street,
Cypress~ CA 90630. Petft(oner requeats permission
for swsp meets at a~ existing drlve-tn theat~a (n the Ml(Industriml, limited) Zone on
property described as an irregularly-shaped parcel of iand consisting of approximaitely
23~0 •~res loceted at the southeast corne~ af Durst Street and Lemon Street, having a
frontage of approxtrru~tely 1285 feRt on the south side of Durst Street a~d approxirt-etely
670 feet on the east side of Lertran Straet and further describnd as 1520 North Lemon Street.
Property presenkly classifed as ML (INDUS?RIAL~ LIMITED) ZONE.
There wa s no one indicating thelr presence in oppositlon to subject re~~uest and although
thc staf f report to thc Planning Cammiss{on datrd Juty 28. 1980 was not read at the public
hearing, It is referred to and made a part of the minutes.
Roberc W. Seetey~ representing Californla Drive-in Thtatres~ Inc., 120 N. Robertson Boule-
vard~ Los Angeles~ CA 90048~ stated the f.lty of Anahtim has appraached them for the use
of the O ~ange Drtve-in Theatre which ad}oins the Anaheim Stadlum to assist In a seve~e
problem enc~untered by the City tn the number of parking spaces required for the Rams foot-
bali games; that th~y have been asked to surrendcr seven (7) Sundays and four (4) niqhts
between tha dates of August il and Sunday~ December 21, 1980. This means a dispiecement of
the swa p meet for approximately 800 snwll merthants and many residents of this area who flnd
fun and frolic and bargains at the swap rt-eet. He stated tticy have told the City of ARaheim
and J(m Oooley, Director of Stadium Operations~ wha is present todey, that they would b~
piease~ to try and be good nelghbors and coc~perate in this request and have niade this
appliCa tion to trarsfer the swap meet to the Anahclm Orive-(n at 1520 North Lemon Street
for thos e seven S~-ndays; that they will provide parking on-site In excess of double what
they naw have at the Orange Orlve~in and have made arrangements with the Northrop Corpo~a-
tion fo ~ 800 sp~ces and have vacant land which they are willing to improve with a coating
accepta ble for parkin4 and w(11 have ~he equlvalent qf 1826 parking spaces on-site for
ihe kemporary tr~~sfen c~ swap meet.
?iP poi nted r•~~t on tr~~: ~~ '~hts they are bei ng asked to g i ve up thc operat ion of the
~'range Driv •in~ they ~Ni ; rer some poss(bfe permanent consequenr,es; that they function
in a highly ~.~.~mpetiti~e market and are subject to competitive bidding with competitors in
the irt~ne dia:e area and sign cont~acts b~sed on that bidding and the license to show a
~n~vie a n d they agree to show it continuously for the period of time designated by that
crmtrac t. The interruption of these four dates in questian will mean that they shall be
obllga t ed to violate the terms of the contract and be subject to a possible lawsuit for
tarmina ting the run, even for one date~ which legally and technicalty ends the run, which,
in turn , means that on some key dates~ including tw~o key Sundays~ they will lose the
picture s already under contract and witl have to pay a forfeiture on those contracts. He
stated they are prepared to do that as an acco~~nodation because they have had very flne
relatio~s with the Stadium and are using a part of the Stadium parking lot during the times
when th~ Angels have been the~e in order to accomn~date their people. They are asking fo~
this temporary relocation a~d are prepared to surface the unimproved land and have included
thelr a greement with Northrop and will not encroach upon any nearby properties and there
are no restdential areas in that vicinity.
Mr. See ley ~~ointed out a cor~eGtian in Item No. 11 of the staff report which refers to ~~
the St a dium ~rive-in Theatre on Katella and noted it should read the Orange Driye-in Theat~e~ 4~
291 N. State ~ollege Boulevard. He also referred to the Condition No. 1 requirtng the E
installatlon o~ sidewalks along Lemon Street~ and stated thls would be a ve ry expensive ~
undert aking and there is minimai pedestrian use of that area and asked consideratian of J
a wai~re r from that requirement. He stated they a~ e running out of time to make this
transfer and asked the Comnisston to consider waiv it~~~ tF+e appeai period so they can :
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Ela NEGATIVE CECLARATION 6 CONpITIONAL U5E PERMIT N_ 0. 20~6 (continued)
Jack White~ Asslstent City Attor~ey~ explainad thA Plenning Commission cannot weive the
appeal period. but stnce there is na opposltlon present, he did not see any reason for
a great d~a) of concern on the appltcsnt's pert.
Annika So~talahti, Assist~nt Dlrectar for Zoning~ stated Stsff has disCUSSed the condition
requirin9 stdewalks and therA was a general cons~nsus thet for the Ilmlted days every
yedr that this activity will trk~ Nl~c~, perhaps the sidewalks would not be neCassary;
however~ Steff would like another canditton edded requtring th~t at the beginning of each
calendar year, or whenever the Rams sch~dule is establ(shed~ that the applicant submit
in wr(ting to the Planning Department a ilst of the speciftc deres of the swap meets which
sheil occur in the months from August to Decembar every yeer, presum~bly the maximum n~mber
wt~l be aleven~ but probably fass becausa they are dayttme activities. This wlll provtde
control over not having othesr swap meets here on days other than the Rams games. She
stated she u~derstood this use wil! be permanant untii the parking sltuatian improves or
expands at the Stadium an~i expiatned addittonai parking will be provided at the Stadium
evantually.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
Jack Judd, Clvii Engin~aring Associate, explained at the present time there fs no sidewalk
waiver for this property. Tl~e C(ty Engineer has indlcated khat he wouid be willing ta
grant a waiver; h owever~ thr.y would Iike the condttlon to stand since condit(ons may change
in the future which woulc' necessitate sidewalk installation.
Commissioner @ushore referred co the petitioner's comn+ents regarding possible Iitlgation
and presumed since the City is entici~g them to break their contraci,that the City of
Anaheim could~ in facc~ be a part of that litigation,
Annika Santalahti steted the Commisslon shoutd not grant the use on the basis of providing
Rems parking, but thc use should be reviewed on its own merit.
Jack White respectfully suggesced that particular consideratian not be a part of the
Pianning Commission dectsion and the ~~°~eission should be looking at the land use question
only. Ne stated he has not ..een thell ~;antract and has no knowledge of situatio~.
Commissioner Bushore stated the Cortmission should Ic~ok at this as if someone else we~e
r~questing it and wanted to see it serve the public's good if approved~ but if it is
going to cause problems,he would not want to see it approved, He noted there have been
problems wttl~ other swap meets and this Ctty has never allowed one.
Jack White remtnded the ConxnisyP~~• ~ut thts conditional use a~rmit would be no different
than any other permit and could ~• .~fiinated if it becomes a nublic nuisanc~ or
if it is being oparated detriment~~ '~~the public health~ safety or welfare.
Comnissioner Bushore sCated he could not support the use b~•ranse
he felt personally it could possibly bring the City to li~ ~;,;tion and because he
did not think the Commission is looking at it with the eagte eye they normally v~~ulci use.
Chair+~oman Bar~es felt she is lo~king at the use with thc eagle eye she should ~n~• nated
the petitionar has an agreement for additional parking so there wili not be a pai•king
problem and the people attending the swap meet will not be walking in a haxardous situation.
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EtR NEGATIVE OECLARATION AND CONCITIONAL USE PEaMIT N0. 2098 (conttnued)
Ed Gutzmenn~ Director of Planning a~d Das14n for Pecific Theatres~ stated 8 R1ap hd5 been
submltted showing the propasal. Ne expleined the main access would be off Lemon Str~et
and thm bulk of the trafflc would come off ths Riverside Freeway. He pointed out the
temporary box afficesfor the wslk-tn traffic from tho Narthrop pr~perty an~ from the
vscant portion of their prape~ty which wlll be p~ovided for parkinq. It was noted there
would not be any pedeatrian t~affic on Lemon Street.
Canmissioner Herbst asked if the merchants at these swap meets pey business licenses
and Ms. Santelahti stated the City's Businnss License Department bases the fees for
showa at the Convention Center on a Code Sectlon which requires that a fee of S25 yearly
be patd by the prometer of the show and aach exhibitor pays SI per day per booth to the
City. She thought the City of Orange has a simllar arrangement. Responding to
Cc~mnissioner King's question~ she explained there is no sales tax involved.
Commissianer Bush~re asked if a requirement cauld be made that all selle~s produce a
valid resale license to the exhibitor.
Ms, Santalahti thought Licen~ing and Gthcrs may ba taking a look at how thiy should be
handied since there have not been any swap meots in th(s City and maybe they wouid be
intQrested in that requiremente Right now the City does i~ot have any ordinances
r~flecting this situ~tion and she suggested the Commission could recortrr~end to th~ City
Council that this be reviewed.
Conmissioner Herbst felt anybody selling for a profit should be subject to the sa-r~
sales tax laws and should pay tax or- any merchandise that is soid.
Ms. Santalahtl stated Staff could resea~ch the matter to find out what other cities
do and present Information at the next Conmission meeting and then the Comnission coutd
make a recommendation ta the City Cauncil.
Commissioner Tolar pointed out this ts not a permanent swap meet and the arguments
relative to llcensing are not relevent; that this is only il dates and is a trade-off
to this City whlch will derive tax benefits and rrbnies for the trade-off because people
will be able to attend the Rams games and witl spend money.
ACTION: Conmissioner Tolar offered a motion, secondcd by Conxnissioner King and MOTIDN
GARRIED that the Anaheim City Planning Cocrimission hPS reviewed the proposal ta permit
swep meets at an ~xisting drive-in theatre in the ML (I~dustrial~ Limited) Z~ne on
property described as an irregularly-shaped parcel of land consisting of approximately 23
acres located at the southeast corner of Durst Street and Lemon Street, having a frontage
of approximately 1285 feet on the south slde of Durst Street and 670 feet on the east side
af Lemen Street; and dces hereby approve the Negative Oeclaracion from the requi~ement
ta prepare an environme~tal impact report on the basis that there wouid be no significant
individual or cumulative adve~se environmental impact due to the approval of this
Negative Oeclaration since the Anaheim General P1an designates the sub,ject property
for general indust~ial land uses corr snsurate with the proposal; that no sensitive
environmental impacts are involved in the proposal; that the Initia) Study submitted by
the petitioner indicates na significant individual or cumulative adverse e~vironmental
imp~cts; end that the Negative Declaration substantiating the foregoing findings is on
file in the City of Anaheim Planning O~epartmnet.
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EIR NEGATIVE DECLARAT{ON AND COND~TIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 2098 (continued)
C~mmfssioner Tot~~ oFfered Resolutio~ No. PC80-120 and moved for its passege and adoptian
that the Anaheim City Planntng Commisslon does hereby grant the petition f~or Condittonal
Usa Permtt No. 2098~ subJect to Interdepartme~tal Committee Recommendations, i~cluding
the ~idewalk, pointing out the petitloner can request a sidewalk wa(var f~om the City
Engineer~ and subJect ta revtew in one year so addltional changes of dates for naxt year
can be det~rmined.
Jack White suggested an additionpl cond ian to resd that tt~e permtt for the swap meet
be valid only during those certain deys of eac~ year on which the Rams play home football
games at Mahcim Stadium and on whtch days the applicent pr~vides Stadium parking at the
Orange Orivc-in Theatre.
On roll ca19 the fqre,qaing resolution was passed by the following vote:
AYES~ COhWISSIONERS: BARNES~ ~OUAS~ FRY, HERBST, KING AND TOLAR
NOES : CO-SM I SS I O~VERS : 9USHORE
ABSENT: COi~MISSfONERS: NONE
Conmiss(oner 8ushore stated his vate was negative, but he is not really opposed to th~ use,
but che City has been plannfng for the Rams to come here for a long time and here again
the Gommission is on a tirr~ fusc to approvc somethin~ because the City wants it. He felt
th! City Ptanning Commission constantly needa to take a closer look at things being
requested for tham~elvas and maybe the questions have been adequately answered for Staff~
b~t tfie answerS need ta bc told to the C~mmission so they can make responslble decislons.
He r~f~rred to a library sit~ in the Canyo~ which was never reviewed by the Conxnission
wMich had g~ading prot~lems and due to m rush in ttmt~ no one ever saw it. He stated
the benefits may have outweighed the tax dolla~s, but he ~+id not Iike these t(med things
brcaught before the 4ommission an,. he did not like to be rushed; and that he gets the
imprtssion From this request that if the City had to make a deal with Caltrans to close
aff the Orange Frecway ta provdde parking ac the Stadtum~ the~• would attempt to do it and
Ive did n~t li~Ce it. He felt if the City was going to do thic and did not have the fo~esight
ta do it six manths agn~ then there wa~ poor planning at sonkbody's ievel.
Commissianer King asked what was meant by needing to take a closer look and Conxnissioner
Bushore repli~d thaE swap meets do cause problems and the City has not allowed them
before; that he perscx~ally has gone to one swap meet and would never go back and does not
like ta see Anat~eim ailowing swap mt:ets under the good name of "parking for the Rams"
and other benefits it Wilt bring to th~ City. He thought if this petitioner had walked
in and requested a swap meet on his own ihat the Cortmission would not approve it~ but
since the City of Anahelm wants it, they will approve it. He asked if the City will ba
benefiting because of the tax dollars of if this use will be contributing to the demo~al'za-
tion of khe community with such uscs. He referred to probiems taused by swap rr~ets which
the Police Department has to ~ieal with and asked wha~t the extra cost would be for the
extra potice enforcement involved.
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tTEM N0. 8
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A, TENTATIVE MAP OF TRACT N0. 8~2i Requeat for an extenslon of time.
The staff report to the Plsnning Commisslon dated July 28, 1980 was presented noting
thls ~equest is from Daniel A, Salceda/Anahelm H111s, Inc. for a one-yesr extension
of ttme for Tentative Map of Yrect No. 8520 (Revision No. 2) to complete p~ocessing
of the flnal tract rr~ p on property loceted at the southwest and southeast corners
of Serrano Avenue and Htdden Canyon Road and on the oast side of Hidden Canyon Road
approxlmatety 540 feet south of the centerline of Serrano Avenue.
ACTION; Cortmisstoner Ktng ofFer,;d a motion, seconded by Commissioner Tolar and
~-CARRIED that the Aneheim r,~ty Planning Commission does hereby grant
a one-year extension of time for Tentative Map of Tract No. 8520 (Revision No. 2)
to expire September 12, 1981,
B. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. 1958 - Request for a retroactive e.x_censton of timc.
Thc staff report to the Planning Commission dated July 28~ ig80 noted H~rbert Brown/
Mervada Inc, requests a reCroactlve extension af time for Condttional Use Permit No.
~958 granted to permit office uses in a residential structure with waivers of minimum
site area and max(mum s(gn area ac 205~ S. Eucfid Street.
It was pointed out that a site review of the property revealcd the us~ is no longer
there and it was suggested the request be denied.
ACTION: Commissioner Tolar offered a motion~ seconded by Camnissioner Herbst and
M I CARRIED that the Aneheim City Planning Comnission does he~eby deny the
request for a retroactive extension of [ime forCanditianal Use P~rmit No. 1958,
C. RM-1200 AND RM-2400 MULTIPLE-FAMiLY RESIDENTIAL 20NE5 - PROPOSED CODE AMENDM~NTS
PERTAIN(IiG TO STRUGTIfRAI HEIGHT ANO DMIELLING UNIT SIZE
The staff report to the Planning Comm(sston detGd July 28, 1980 was presentrd, but
not read, Annika Ss~talahti, Asgistant Director for Zonirtg~ noted the City Council
at the July 22nd meeting requested that ths Planning Commiss6on recommend alternate
dates for a jo(nt work session wtth the Councii to discuss this proposed amendment
prior to taking any action.
It was the generai co~sensus of the Comnission that an evening during the first
week of September would be accepCable.
ACTION: Commissioner Herbst offered a motion. secondcd by Commissioner King and
MOTION CARRIED that the Rnaheim City Planning Comnission does hereby recomnend
a Joint work s~ssion with the Council to discuss amendments to strurtural height
and dweilireg unit slze in the multiple-femily residential zones during the f~rst
week of September 1980 and that consideraCion of the aforernantloned item be
continutd until after that meeting.
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REPORYS AND RECGMf9ENDATIONS (continued)
' D ftECLASS i F 1 CAT I ON N0. _7l'78~ 1~_ Re ws t for an extans 1 An nf t i me .
Ths staff repo~t ro the Planning Commisston dsted July 28, 1980 wes presented,
but not raad. It noted Da~iel A. Salceda~ Anaheim Hills, inc.. requests a one-
year sxtension of time for Reclass'oxirt-atelyN13007feet,west of thetcenterline
south side of Nohl Ranch Raad~ app
of Nohl Ra~ch Road.
ACTION: Commissione~ Herbst offerad a rrbtion~ seconded by Commissloner Tolar
A~TID MOTION CAea~EextensioneofntimemfortReclassif9cat ongNo~n77~-18-leto expire
grant a one y
an August 15- 1981•
INTRODUCTION OF NEW COMMISSIONER
Ch,~lrwaman Barnes we!comad MARY S. BOUAS as the new Anaheim City Planning Commission~
tcrm to expire June 30, 1q84.
EtEC'f10N OF 1 90•Sl PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN CHAIRMAN PRO T~MPORE ANO SECRETARY
lt was noted the terms of offtce for the Chairman, Chairman Pro Tempore and Secretary
of the Maheim City Planning Commission expired as of June 3~. ~9~~ and therefore,
it was fn order to elecc said officers.
It w~s the general consensus of tha Commiss(on that Chairwoman Barnes sh~uld act as
Temporary Chairman.
CHq~RMAN - Temporary Chairwor--a"PBannin nCtoRmissionn ornthe~1980-81 fiscaleyea~r the office
o Ch~+ rman of the Maheim C ty 9
Cortrnissioner Ff~e~bst nominated Commissioner H~1 Tolar as Chairman•
Commissionar 8ushore offenedhcr bt~are closeded by Commissione~ Fry and MOTION CARRIED
that the nominations be a d Y
Commtssioner Kl~g offered e"10HaooldgTolarcbeb~ndh ereby isreBectedeChairman'of theRAnaheim
UNANIMOUSLY that Commissioner
C;r.y Planning Commission for the 1980-81 fiscal year.
Chairman Tolar assumed the chair.
CNAIRMAN PRO TEMPORE - Chrir^~a" Thetm Cit'dPlannir+gmCommisstaneforither1980fA1 fiscalfyear.
o Chairman ro 'femp4re cf the Ana Y
Cortimissioner King nominaCed Commissloner Bushore as Chairmsn Pro Tempore.
Commisstone~ Nerbst offera~ hereb'parescloseda bY ~~issioner Fry and MOTIOti CARRIED
~hat the nominations be an Y
Commissioner Herbst offcred a Bushors becand~hebeby«isielected Cha9 rman POolTempoRe'of
UNANIMOUSLY that Commissloner
the Anahe~im City Planning Cammission for the 19a~-81 fiscal year,
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E~ECTION OF 1 80-81 P~ANNINO COMMISSION CHAIRMAN CHAIRMAN PRO TFMPORE AN_ D SECRETARY (contlnusd~
SECRETARY
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Chitrman Toler noted that nomtnattona were in orde~ for the offtce of Secretary of the
Anahelm City Planning Commission fo~ the 1980-81 fiscal yea~.
Commiasione~ King nominated Edith Narrls as Smcretary.
Commtssioner Herbst offered a motton, secanded by Commissioner Bushora and MQTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY thst the ~ominattons be and hereby are closed.
Commissione~r Ktng cffored a motion~ seconded by Cammissioner H~erbst and MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY that Edith Harris be and hereby is elected Secretary of the Anahelm City
Pl~+nntng Co~a,~ission for the 1980-81 fiscal year.
ADJOURNMENT - There being no further business~ Comnissloner Fry offared a mction~
seconded by Commissioner 8ouas and MOTION CARRIfD that the Anahetm
City Planning Commission meettng be adJourned.
The meeting was adjourned at 4:55 p.m.
Res ctfulty submitted
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