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Minutes-PC 1991/11/18__ _ ~ _ -'`~,, REGilLAR MEEPIlVG OF TXE ANAHEIM CITY PLANNING 0~41I'SSION h701JDAY, N~CJVII~ER I8, 1991 AT 10:00 A.M. r^. .~ 10:00 A.M. - PRE1 - SAHITIYLRCI~ DIPISItN (SCUD Rsductian and Recycling Element and Household Hazazdoas Waste Element) 10:30 A.M. - RA?JLAR PREGiM,II~IAKY PLAN REVIII9 1:30 P.M. - FUBI~IC HF.1)i2IIVG (PUBLIC TESPIlNONY) ACTION AGF3VDA O.~h1M112SSIONERS PRESENT: Bouas, Hellyer, Henninger, Messe, Peraza, Zemel CbhR12SSI0NERS ARSFIV4': Bristol PROCED[1RE ~ EXPIDITE PLANNING GU1~4lISSION PUBLIC i!F•ARII4GS 1. The proponents in applications which are not contested will have five minutes to present their evidence. Additional time will be granted upon request if, in the opinion of the Commission, ouch additional time will produce evidence important to the Commission's consideration. 2. In contested applications, the proponents and opponent will each be given ......~~~ ten minutes to present his case unless additional time is requested and the complexity of the matter warrants. The Commission's considerations are not determined by the length of time a participant speaks, but rather by what he says. 3. Staff Reports are part of the evidence deemed received by the Commission in each hearing. Copies are available to the public prior to the meeting. 4. The Commission will withhold questions until the public hearing is closed. 5. The Commission reserves the right to deviate from the foregoing if, in its opinion, the ends of fairness to all concerned will be served. 6. All documents are presented to the Planning Commission for review in connection with any hearing, including photographs or other acceptable visual representations of non-documentary evidence, shall be retained by the Commission for the public record and shall be available for public inspections. 7. At the end of the scheduled hearings, members of the public will be allowed to speak on items of ini:ereat which are within the jurisdiction of the Planning Commission, and/or agenda items. Each speaker will be allotted a maximum of five (5) minutes to speak. PC911118 11/18/91 Page 1 i I f~ f :.19iA~P!mRF,aY~.7weo=x: P r5?.~. ,~ .., . F ~. .. ,..., , ~.. .. .. _ ..- n... ,~.p^r.n~r~,. ..-,~ '°f^'y..?Y~..~-y}a~ N . la. CEOA NEGATIVE DECLARATION lb. VARIANCE NO. 4136 (WITFIDRAWN) lc. TET~'1'ATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 14429 ld. SPE~Ih~l TREE RIIK7VAi, PERrlI'l' NO. 91-07 LZVNERS: ED STERN, LINDA STERN, MANFRED A GLASTETTER, CHRISTA GLASTETTER, GARY F. LYONS, DONNA LEE LYONS, RAYMOND W. PEARSON, PAMELA J. PEARSON, CURTIS B. PEARSON, REITA BETH PEARSON, FRED GLASTETTER AND 'LORI GLASTETTER AGIIV`l: FRED GLASTETTER, 25012 Via Del Rio, E1 Toro, CA 92630 LC~ATION: Property is approximately 8.4 acres located on the west side of Henning Way approximately 350 feet south of the centerline of ouintana Drive. Waiver of minimum lot width to establish a 7-lot (plus a common lot), RS-HS-22,000(SC), single-family subdivision. To remove fifty-eight (58) specimen trees. Continued from the August 26, October 7, October 21, 1991 and November 4, 1991, Planning Commission meetings. VARIANCE RESOLUTION N0. FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO BE CONSIDERED OFFICIAL MINUTES. ACTION; Continued to Janua=y 27, 199? per staff's recommendation provided that no additional continuances be granted, with further ~ recommendation for denial without prejudice if the requested geotechrical and specimen tree studies are nat submitted or are determined to be unacceptable by Engineering and Planning Department staff. Continued to Jan. 27, 1992 u'•~LJ ?'t r~"-' as'„, 's_:~ . . ,~ 'a-; f~, 2a. _CEbA NE>sAT.IVH DEtr'l~ARP~'ION 2b. VARIANCE N0. 4150 .. 2c. TFT1'1'ATIVE PAfiCEL, MAP NO. 90-349 OWNER: WILLIAM N. KINCANNON AND PATRICIA KINCANNON, 2022 Heliotrope Drive, Santa Ana, CA 92706 A~' P: ANACAL ENGINEERING CO., ATTN: Dennis Poncid and N. Scott Jewitt, 1900 E. La Palma Ave., Ste. 20, Anaheim, CA 92705 ILLATION: 346 Peralta Hills Drive. Property is approximately 1.89 acres located on the west Bide of Peralta Hills Drive and approximately 4S0 feet south of the centerline of Santa Ana Canyon Road. Waiver of minimum lot area to establish a 2-lot, RS-HS-43,000 (SC) single family subdivision. Continued from the November 4, 1991 Planning Commission meeting. VARIANCE RESOLUTION NO. PC91-185 Approved Granted Approved --------------------------------------------------------------------- FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO BE CONSIDERED OFFICIAL MINUTES. IY~...wr.r_ ---- ._..._ ~,~ ~ OPPOSITIONi 1 ~.,,J,. `T: ACTION: CEQA Negative Declaration - Approved .^~Y'< Variance No. 4150 - Granted ;-.;~~~; Tentative Parcel Map No. 9J-349 (Rev. No. 1) - Approved arc- VOTE: 5-1 (Zemel voting NO) .~, n l 36. CEi~A hfITIGATED_NEr,AI'IVE DECLARATION I Continued ?b. WATJER OF Ct7DE REIXIIRF~IET7T ~ to 1 / 13 /? 2 3c. CJNDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0. .3451 ~ Qt7VER: MILTON J:."^JSON, CARLA BEATRICE JOHNSON, MILTON E. JOHtJSON, Jrt., HAZEL C. JOHNSON, 1214 W. Katella Ave. Anaheim, CA 92802 I AGENT: FARANO ar.d KIEVIET, 100 S. Anaheim BLvd., #340, ~.~ Anaheim, CA 92805 i .~' I[X:JITION: 511 - 521 South Manchester Ave.; 500 - 520 South Walnut Strnet. Property ie approximately 2.1 acres located at the southwest corner of Manchester Avenue and Santa Ana Street. ':o retain an auto repair, towing and dismantling facility (including the s!erage and retail sale of used auto parts) and a temporary offices t,.•ailer with waiver of required improvement of parking aid outdoor storage area, minimum structural setback and ~ improvement o.' setback areas. Continued from the October 7, 1991 Planning Commission meeting. j atiaWUd~~••~anL...nF PERAI xd, .L~-.____-__ _ --------------------------------------------------------------------- FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO 8E CONSIDERED OFFICIAL MINUTES. ACTION: Continued to January 13, 1992 as requested by petitioner. `;::~ : ~ r7': }s LJ " ; 11/18/91 - Page 4 ~ ,, - _ I i~ ' ~ ...sS~ ~ _ ,, n }' ~ sA ,. . '.., ~ ~ ^~e..*"-,"E.'.~k+;i;~'Sf'ti,.+mi',"n"?'5..11'.i^ a~.a.rM _ ,.._.. .. .....e~7^~'.,.n_ra.!,v u~ -» ~ ,~, wmvm..egcu!~',v .. rs~.;~~ta { :~ ~~ ~. i ~ $ ~y~I 9q JJt "a A:. f _ ~ - d - K Y S , .. 4. ~ ~_.` ~' _ . }'' '~ 4 . 4~ (~{ y ~,~ >. > '11 ;y~.16..fi r ',4' ~, ~p.~ rrt 4,~~ uSj ~ r { i ~ ~~:~ ry... . ~ 4.a . CEO NEGA:'IVE DF,Cl,ARATION 9b. G.~ERAL PI~FV~7 AMLr.."e'1XdEN7' N0, 3:2 4c. REYZASSIFIC~TION NO. 91-92-OG 4a. r,~An%e,~ pF croDE~lr,~*i.~vr 4s. CCNJDITI(xVAL USE !'F.r',Y47T NO. 345] 4f. TENI'AT1VE TRACT' ,+9r1P 7~. 19575 C.It?l~R: LUNDAR ANU ELIZABETH YUH, 4400 MacArthur Blvd. 0'900, Newport Beach, CA '2660 7K~P1': NEWPORT PACIFIC DEVELOPMENT, 4400 MacArthur Blvd. ~ /900, Newport Beach, CA 92660 IIxATION: 3253 to'est Bat' Raid. Property is approx i...ately ~ 0.48 acres .located on the north side of Ball Road and apprcxin•ately 350 feet east of the centerline of Oakhaven Drive. Petitioner requests an amendment to the Land L'se Element of the General Plan redesign sting the property from the existing Low Density Residential designation to the [.ow-•lediu;r Density Pesidential designation. i To reclassify subiect property from the RS-h-43,000 ~ (Fesidential-Agriculture) Zone to the RM-2400 (Residential, To establish a 1-lot, 9-unit, "affordable", RM-2400 condominium subdivision with waiver of minimum site area per dwelling unit, maximum structural height and minimum front yard setback. Continued from the October 21, 1951 Planning Commission meeting. i GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT RESOLUTION NO. PC91-186 i RECLASSIFICATION RESOLUTION NO. PC91-187 ! CONDITIONAL USB PERMIT RESOLUTION NO. PC91-186 FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO BE CONSIDERED OFFICIAL MINUTES. OPPOSITION• 3 ACTION: CEQA Negative Declaration - Approved General Plan Amendment No. 322 - Granted Reclassification No. 91-92-06 - Granted ~~ 1. U1 . y t 1 ~.rn~ I 1~ i f i ~~ I ~~ i ~. A!? ~ ~4 A ~~ ; ~ ~'~ ~ .. •~ ~ 4~ 1 T~ .... Action continued on the next page. Approved Granted Granted Approved Granted Approved .P .~ 1 `~y{+ ~~ , ~,. _C~ ~ ~s ~e 1'~ ~ '~ 'd ~ ~ Y. ~ ; . ~ ,.j>r. 'F a..~ X' a•: 3 Yi + Y+F ~~ S ,~y[7, i _: ~ ~, .h .. _..__...__.. _._._,_..... _._ _........ F~.~ y C 1 ~•~ .~ Waiver of Code Rewirement - Approved ert th h ' ;; y prop e nor s aide, i.e., t e-foot wall on homeowner line/Mrs. Okubo's section) for at least this one lot and ''~ n`~ 6-foot on condominium aid~zj pole other homeowners and build rxr to their preferences. Existing advertising to be used for ~ this waiver per Code Section 18.04.043.101. - r ~ ~ To be set for a public hearing before City Council. ~ `. r rr~ ~~'xi~ , ~ " ~ :y, . Conditional Use Permit P:o. 3461 -Granted r ~r 4~, ~~. Tentative Tract Map No. 14575 - Approved '~ "~' (Move Condition No. 7, page 15 of etafff report from under ` the CUP to the Tentative Tract conditions). Yr~~ ^~j~. • VGTE: 5-0 (Commissioner House did not have an opportunity to listen tj, ~ to the tapes and, therefore, abstained from voting] and r'' Commissioner Hriatol absent). 5~i' ', .~:< j';'' . 'f ~ 11/18/91 > Page 6 ~,. .'"_~, . ~ ~ic v ati D' .. I ~ _. f~.. t~,.a~ _ .. - .a.er~evcw!a'n'x: sza: ~~n+~.r,:~!.; x*; ~'...v ..., •r _ ..... - ,.R~~..-._.._..,.~._~~ _ ~~r~. ~~~~~ • j ~~~. ~~M,~ . rJ+ '~~' ry~~,Y ,h .~. ~4 r,~~~; a ;~~ b yr ~ l F ~~ L •,;~~~ ' 'i~~~_ ~,. ~: . ti .~ ~s` a,..° 5a. LTOA CATEI~RICAL EJ~I7ON-CLASS 5 5b. WAIVER OF GtODE RECXIIRII~IV'P 5c. CONDITIONAL USE PETIT NO. 3470 ;:~:, i YW ~.~1 ` b~ 1:.V, 'r ~ ~% r ~4 V~ j k .~ '3' ~"' ,~, , ~•. .M.~~; d;. 1G ar.:~, Continued ~ to 12/16/91 I CI1INER: ENDOWMENT REALTY INVESTORS, C/0 TCW REALTY ADVISORS, ATTN: Aimee Brazeau, 400 S. HOPE STREET, LOS Angeles, CA 90071 AGENT: CINNAMON WORKS, Attn: Janet Shepard and Colleen Perry, 21707 Appaloosa Rd., Canyon Lake, CA 92587 LOCATION: 5556 "A" EAST SANTA AD'A CYN RD. Property ie approximately 10.63 acres .Located at the southwest corner of Santa Ana Canyon Road. To retain asemi-enclosed restaurant with waiver of maximum number of wall signs, permitted freestanding signs, and minimum number of parking spaces CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION N0. -- FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO BE CONSIDERED OFFICIAL MINUTES. OPPOSITION: None ACTION: Continued to December 16, 1991 in order that all Co~~roisaionera be present to vote. ~~ _ ;~' K =+y I'' T~i s. `, :~~. ;.~_ .,j; `ru.V :.E' i ~ ''~.! i „'aj- ~`, :i°. j ~~/ 11/18/91 Page 7 i a Lnm+to.xr.9!.~a%.oas^r,r.~,.~ .. ~o•..,-v ,..,;,._, _... ~.:: ~... -... ..,..~ ~ ~~:::^ ~ ~ 9. .7 ~;itr.:.+;"'°it?a,~,~`'tvC~~. ,~rY~. a2 . ~,. ~ °'-'_'i ~: ~.' ~. ~ '. }<;. r~~.yi '.' 'kr, ~~, .' a~~f ~-f{{~ r o-. .y~Hi: } a-'~ F ~'.. ~M1 t S J`' ~E ~R~ f ~r, . 'd';i r', .,7 ~S ~~ ~ ' 3 = ~ xi l~ .{a,,.~..:~. . ~ '~`~. - ' ~~ 3 ~ • a ~ T~ r °eY ~~ ~y ~ ~~ i ' r ~- .. 5 ti:4o•.^. Lw: -..~r~e:1. ~ K =w- ~ £~. ~ ~S ; V1! ~ kLw~ :S _'~g'io~,N: y~~ i5~vt~ - .~. ~~~ ~~r.nw•n ..~ +~ ew• wrf.../~w+.4M~MVJyJ@1~f1 , r ~~ Y2i4T . .. . ... _.. .. . . I ~ 1 4~ W ~N l ~ ' ti 1 3 • 63. CAA CATEGt3RICAL Fl~'170DT C,yASS 11 I No Action ;~ ~; 6b. VARIANCE N23. 4156 Granted in Part ~: 6C. CKiNDI'1'IONAL USE PERh1I'1' NO. 3253 - Approved ,~~ ~' RA7CTESP Ft7R APPId'JVAL OF II'ID SIGN Pid3GRAM `:rc~~i ~,, `aC, OWNERS: CENTER PARR INVESTMENTS N.V., 333 City Boulevard ys~ West, #`501, Orange, CA 92668 " ~. AGENP: DeBEIICES INVESTMENT CO., 2300 Michelson Drive, X200, Irvine, CA 92715 IACA4'ION: X21 NOtth Imperil Hig}avay. Property is ~ approximately 4.4 acres located north and west of the ~j t.(. northwest corner of La Palma Avenue and Imperial Highway. i Waiver of permitted shopping c.:ater identification eigne and ~ maximum number of wall eigne to construct two, 76 square-foot monument eigne and five wall signs in conjunction with a previously approved commercial retail center. VARIANCE RESOLUTION NO. PC91-169 FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO BE _ CONSIDERED OFFICIAL MINUTES. OPPOSITION: None ~ ACTION: CEQA Negative Declarati4^ -Approved Variance No. 4156 -Granted in Part 1. Eliminate Waiver A 2. Waiver B amended to two (2) eigne only. (To allow signage on any of the end units in the shopping center in addition to the front entrance sign without the lighted monument signage). Conditional Use Permit No. 3253 } Request for approval of Integrated Sign Program -Approved :~; (Motion only needed for sign program) VOTE: 6-0 (Commissioner Bristol absent) i ~l i~ ' 11/18/91 • Page 8 ~ 7a. CEDA CATEGtiRICALLY EJ~T~1' CLASS ~+.~ 7b. CtlNDITZONAJ USE PERMPl' N'O. 3472 CWNERJ SAVI RANCH ASSOCIATES, 450 NEWPORT CENTER DRIVE, X304, NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660 IpCAR'ION: SAVI RANCH BUSIlVESS PARK. Property ie approximately 50.1 acrSe, located north of the Riverside (91) Freeway and west of Weir Canyon Road. To permit four off-site traffic circulation signs. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION N0. PC91-190 FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO BE CONSIDERED OFFICIAL MINUTES. OPPOSITIONS None C 0 : CEQA Categorical IIxemption Class 11 - No Action Conditional use Permit No. 3471 -Granted for 2 yrs. with opportunities for further time extensions. To expire November 18, 1993. VOTE: 6-0 (Commissioner Eristol absent) „~:, t a.. r ~`. r L~ i ?`L ' ~h~~ h ~~ , ~@ .+ ~~a yy,.- , ~f_:~.J ~'.l'~ /'• :J 'lr '' •4r 7 ;~ CY` ( ~ ~~ ~~, Y 1 ~ ~j~~1 I, ~, s4~. ~E( i. ti ~ ~'~I'i~'~f~ ~~. L. ~ ~ // ~ `~TX ~ ~~. S S L~~a ~i ~ ~ryt~ ¢ Y~~ No Action \~i°~~ Granted for ' i 2 yrs.t 3 to expire `~ 11/18/93 ` ,_ , ~j V/~j. i I I '~~ . :ys.r ,'t;h~. =N"; ~dl, ~"~s ,. - ~tx '.~: y 11/18/91 Page 9 wi j~~ 1~: ;~: ~. v ~~~ ~- ~ a X,M° ~i. r ~, ~Xti~~.. ~yy w..: ~~ ;F ~'(' ~~. ~,~,, Yy x't, , , F;~: s;. f '. (Q~ 1,~~ _ 1.,, i 8a. ~)A NEGATIVE DF~LARATION 8b. arNDITIONAL USE PERMIT IVO. 3469 aONIIZS: WILLIAM A. COUCH, P.O. Box 3101, Newport Beach, CA - 92663 " AGQVT: Q.F.F. MANAGEMENT, INC., 3280 CAHUENGA BLVD., LOS ANGELES, CA 90068 IQCA'l7UN: 2144 South HanbaC Boulevazrl. Property is approximately 0.55 acre located on the east aide of Harbor Boulevard and approximately 500 feet south of the centerline of Orangewood Avenue. To permit a drive-through lane addition to an existing fast food restaurant. ~~~~ CONDITIONAL USB PBRMIT RBSOLUTION NO. PC91-191 FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO BE CONSIDERED OFFICIAL MINUTES. OPPOSITIONS Nona $CTIONS CEQA Negative Declaration - Approved Conditional Use Permit No. 3469 - Granted ','~~` 1. Add condition that driveway to the east onto Acama be closed. (TO include extension of existing block wall along the east property line). y 2. Add condition in terms of having some recorded proof of use of the 12 feet that ie acceptable to the City Attorney prior to building permit. - 3. Strike CUP No. 1004 from Condition No. 14. `..~, VOTE: 6-0 (Commissioner Bristol absent) .. ''.' ~ 'I I ~, 11/18/91 ~ Page 10 j N1~Yff':Y•Y!'(i+~LFGti:7^.-. ±M^.C.T.:N. .,.~ ~: ~ :::. .. .. ....... ...: . .._..., _v1•v"tY`.^S:17s^M?+~n0~~ ~p~ ~, 9a. CEOA 'FIVE DEL^LARATION continued 9b. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 3426 READVERT'ISID to 12/16/91 OWNERS: EUCLID SHOPPING CENTER, 2293 W. Ball Road, Anaheim, CA 92804 AGIIV'f: JAMES CARP, 9017 Morning Glow Way, Sun Valley, CA 92352 LG~ATION: 1650-1696 West Katella Avenue. Property is approximately 18.6 acres located at the southeast corner of Katella Avenue and Euclid Street. Amendment to conditions of approval pertaining to required I ©// ~ landscaping. ~il~f CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RESOLUTION NO. -- FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. NOT TO BE CONSIDEREL OFFICIAL MINUTES. OPPOSITION: None ACTioN: Continued to December 16, 1991 in order to submit revised landscape plane. I ~`1 ~~ ~ ,'. 11/18/91 ~ Page it ~*r. ~f' ! r ~ ~ ;; s~, ~ I W~ ~ ~ _.' A"fls~lxF.M+msm.- zM-,., . , r••~ .. ~...;:.~~,... ~ ,:, ; , ;. ;~;. .. ~. ."7 [? r.!yr!._ .....nrn ,.» ...~ !{PkSSr87 F . 10 . REPORTS AND RECOP9~g3VDATIONS: A. REY;7,ASSIFICATION NO. 87-88-57 AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMTI' N0. Approved 3006 - REXXJE-ST E~(TENSION OF TIME: BuPesh Davikh requests .-~. one year time extension to comply with conditions of _ approval and review of revised site plan for substantial Lo ~,~/~iRa conformance finding. Property is located at 212 South Heath ~ ~ ~ 0 `r a, Boulevard. /I Continued from the November 4, 1991 Planning Commission ~ lt~.~. meeting. B. WAL SINGLE FAMILY ORDINANCE: Approved C. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO 3459 - RFXJUEST FYJR NUNC P1.Y1 TJNC Granted RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. FC91-162 The Planning Commission Secretary requests a Hunt pro tunc resolution to amend Resolution No. PC91-162 in connection with Conditional Use Permit No. 3459 pertaining to conditions of approval and /IU~ further describer ae 2382 East Orangethorpe Avenue. vl~!i~ RESOLUTION N0. PC91-192 r __ -~ ~_ _ - - D. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO 3446 - '^ RESOLJTION A~'NDING .RESOLUTION N0. FO91-131: The Planning -- Commission Secretary requests a Hunt pro tunc resolution to amend Resolution No. PC91-131 in connection with Conditional Use Permit No. 3446. RESOLUTION N0. PC91-193 Granted ~~ 3s '',~';' t ~. iu `, 1 '~ I ~,1 ~~ 11/18/91 j Page 12 I - ~' ~y7PFi'1PrF ~`~~?!T!6'"` -.._. . , r. ., -. ,a. :. .., ,. .;> .. .. _, ._... ro,~,_x . ?o'.'.`n"F~~Y:.,7a~6R... ~ .. Y~~ ' 3 }~, t ~~,?., S~ ~:4!. . ~ 7'Fj~~ ~,Y~~; ~< ~~ ,,, ~,~s ~~ n''yM.. +'{ ryw~ :,3Try W. "~"+- 18. DISCUSSION: None 19. ADJOURNMENT: The Planning Commission adjourned their regularly scheduled meeting of November 10, 1991, to Monday, November 25, 1991, at B:OOa.m. for a tour of Ccal Canyon. The Commissioners will meet at the Anaheim Memorial Hospital Rite located at Weir canyon and Santa Ana Canyon Road. Other dates of interest: December 4, 1991 - 10:J~a.m. (Joint meeting with Redevelopment) December °, 1991 - 6:OOp.m. (Public Hearing for Cypsum Canyon) ~~ I ~`~ tits. R ~~ 'I ~ ~ ~ ~~,. - '~:at ' , ~ i ,~. ~ ~ n~[~' { )kk44i , ~~~F ; FA,~ {„' ~ s n4 s f~~ ~~ r